Why Men Hate Going To Church | The Roommates
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- čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
- The following clip was taken from Episode 232: The Roommates, Hafeez and Chris, explains why men hate going to church and much more.
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Paul wrote poetically about the church being like a bride. Yes women like this description. But we don't have to focus on that and feel awkward. Jesus called God his Father. Our Father in Heaven. Jesus called his followers his disciples, brothers and friends.
The teachings are also very odd now. Church is centrally formed around families. If you want young men to be apart of the church then they need to have the option of adopting responsibility and starting a family. Which the church has put massive hurdles in front of men with how they preach to women. Imagine being a young man today (if you aren't one) and listening to what the young women say. They treat God as a surrogate lover to fill their primary needs of emotional and spiritual (Jesus is my boyfriend songs, walking/talking to Jesus, I'm married to christ, etc). Balling their eyes out to what could easily be a Taylor Swift song.
They believe that God will appoint to them the perfect man in their lives is another false teaching. There are over 780,000 words in the king James Bible, but out of all of the stories, books, chapters, etc, there are only two instances where God acted as a heavenly matchmaker. Adam and Eve, Isaac and Rebecca. That's it. This neglectfull idea that the perfect man will come around keeps them spiritually widowed and also might explain the sharp rise in divorce rates (which are initiated by women around 80% of the time), they dont know how to deal with a man's temporary shortcomings or how to deal with any problem that arises so they walk away from their commitments and pretend that he "wasn't the one."
The men feel alienated and ostracized so they seek a partner outside of the church. And the likelihood of them bringing their non-religious partner to the place they felt ostracized at is practically non existent.
Interesting view point...enjoyed reading it.
This all sounds like an excuse for sin. What does the SCRIPTURES say?
I met a guy who experienced what you describe. His gf said she...wanted to get closer to God. Meaning not him.
@@MoonMoon-fx1op If your God doesn't understand me and my struggles, then I'm not inclined to read His scriptures. Cope more.
@@StarboyXL9 "cope more" as if I'm the one who can put you in heaven or hell 😂. That's YOUR soul sir.
Brother, church is a place of worship, not a girlfriend. You cant expect everyone to wrap it up in a clean package for you. You just have to believe in Him and His word...not conforming to social construct on what a relationship is. Its a relationship is between you and the Heavenly Father, not you and the worlds opinion. Getting to heaven is much more important than being perceived a certain way amongst your peers
Getting to heaven is the easy part! all we have to do is believe in Jesus. conducting our lives so we stay on the straight & narrow is the REAL challenge. Thats when men can have a lifestyle that appeals to our sensibilities. Lawd knows women have been doing this for decades now! Women dont want to follow men; they want to lead men. But Men do NOT want to follow women!
The amount of subtlety blaming men and also praising women constantly is something I didn't pick up on for a while. It dawned on me one Sunday when I attended a church, my GF at the time was a regular. Hopefully, you can figure out how many times I've gone back. I'm slowly turning into Homelander from the boys where everything shitty in America is *SOMEHOW* my fault.
I didn’t realize how many people were going to church with no sincere intention of having a relationship with God. It’s getting hard to defend Christian’s when people say “church people” are fake. Nothing about this video and these comments have to do with God at all.
Going to church these days is like watching chick flicks.
Things are different in more traditional churches. The LCMS is mostly old people, but it's a hidden gem.
This has bothered me for years. While in all fairness, the relationship between God and Israel/Christ and His Church is strongly depicted as a marriage of The Bridegroom and His (often wayward) Bride, this archetype has been the predominant feature of much of the teaching, preaching, and the music. It appeals to the women and some of the softer guys, but has a tendency to, subliminally, ostracize masculine Men.
This has been the description since ancient times. It is exactly how it works. You want to be be the warriors of the bride. Israel/ ,Church, my hats off to you. But walk in wisdom.
@@mrstomifergusonabsolutely
@@mrstomiferguson Which poem did David write that killed Goliath? You TOTALLY misunderstood the Sampson story! LOL GOD never said it was wrong to be strong. HE made Sampson strong and said as long as Sampson was faithful, that Sampson would remain strong. But just like Adam, who listened to Eve because he loved her, Sampson listened to Delilah, whom he loved, and thereby disobeyed GOD! But GOD had mercy, gave Sampson his strength back one more time! Abraham listened to Sarai, slept with Hagar in disobedience to GOD! Are you noticing a pattern here? LOL Isnt GOD called the Lord of Hosts (armies)? if GOD didnt value strength & fighting, why is it discussed SO much in BOTH books? Why are we exhorted to put on the FULL armor of GOD (Ephesians 6:10 -18) instead of the negligee & sweet perfume of GOD? why did Jesus threaten to send 12 legions of poets & musicians, instead of angels armed with swords, at His request, like he did in Matthew 26:53? why do women forget that Jesus was a man, and not just their gay bestie?
@@inconnu4961it's mythology. Never happened. Most men like to be close to facts and many of these old testament myths have no facts
Excellent conversation.
Like your "relationship vs walk with" observation.
This exactly what I've been thinking for years. And some churches even oreach and sing "my beloved" all the time. It's too weird for me. I'm tired of church, it's too many feelings and too little reasoning.
PREACH BROTHERS
Why must every church be IN THE DARK? Done with that
Very good 👍 your on to something!!!
Wow, it's nice to hear some like-minded people here. I always cringe at the personal relationship with Jesus idea or that we need to fall in love with God. Makes you shudder. Also, being the bride of Christ doesn't exactly inspire me either.
Yall are entirely too carnal minded that's the issue. I can't believe this nigga really said church is too gay for men like yo 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
@@joannamonique707 I have reported you for making racist comments. bye bye Felicia
Very interesting!
The relationship between Jehovah God and the man is Father and son (Mat 6:9; Mal 2:10; Heb 12:5-10). The relationship between Christ Jesus and man is brother (Heb 2:9-12; Mark 3:34, 35). One may ask, if he is our brother, how then is he our Lord? He is our brother according to the flesh by way of his natural birth (John 3:6; Mat 1:1; Gal 4:1-7; Rom 8:17, 29). He is our Lord according to the spirit by inheritance (Mark 12:35-37 [Ps 110:1]; Heb 1:1-5; Rom 1:1-4; Phil 2:7-11).
Men don't want to be told what to do,..
They are not ready to take the time and research about God
2 Timothy 3 :1-5
Not true. When man research God we find out that the Bible is full of mythology
No one seemed interested in getting to know me at the church I just left, not even the pastor. How am I supposed to confess my sins to people who I don’t feel welcomed by in the first place? Not to mention I struggle to understand the holy trinity and sin itself and never got answers I could wrap my head around when I go looking for them.
@@FirstnameLastname-jo9dj Its mythology. Dont let them trick you into believing in mythology as if its history. Once you allow yourself to believe in their mythology, you will always need them to explain god to you. And we dont need middleman between us and god speaking on behalf of god. Donkeys dont talk, reindeer dont fly and 500 year old men do NOT build boats.
Let's be Real....
I think if they and other men read the Bible more they would understand how the Bible instructs men and what type of relationship they should have with God. I think nowadays people get stuck on word semantics without ever understanding the topic to understand the context of what the Bible says to do/be day to day or what the church should be
But church is called the « Bride ». Focus on the message the word 😢…
So women are ALL lesbians because they marry other brides? it was an analogy, not a job description. When we have our spiritual bodies we will be neither male nor female, just like GOD has no gender. GOD does not NEED sex to create things. but in the carnal, we need sex to create more humans, so we have 2 genders that have different aspects to them. This is the carnal world we live in. Read the book: Love & Respect by Emerson Eggerichs. both men and women need love & respect, but each gender values one of the other. Men NEED respect more than love; women NEED love more than respect. there are many, many such examples and science bears this out. men & women are different, and NOTHING but the spiritual will change this. STOP treating men as if they are defective women. Both sides are defective in complimentary ways! Thats why we ALL need Jesus!
Good video.
I hate going too I like Zoom
The brick churches could be feminine and feminist to support all the women who fill it, but I follow The Lord of the Bible. Read Proverbs and Psalms. The Lord is my rock, my fortress, a strong tower, my refuge, an ever present help in tribulations. The Lord is my strength, my shield, my stronghold! The Lord loves justice and righteousness and upholds the righteous! New Testament too. Put on the armor of God. Follow Me. Do as I commandeth and I will make thy paths straight.
People gotta really do some research their was a lot of homosexuality in those biblical times.
Yeah and fire and brimstone cleaned a lot of it out.
@@fisterhr Praise be to GOD!
God is not you fellow, he didn't have your back. He is your general, The leader. You follow Him, you depend on Him.
Yeah but even a general fights in war with his comrades to lead the war and point where to move to next. He’s not saying God is a “brother in arms” sacrilegiously or in a way that brings God on the same level. He’s saying it as if there is a fight to be had and instead of God being a coach on the sidelines he’s a stoic Commander of war leading us(The Masculine) into war. He’s saying it in a way that has a more accepting and inviting masculine frame to it. It’s profound the way he put it together, and upon hearing his analogy it resonated with me in a way I haven’t felt before. I think this analogy should be brought up in Church. There is a feminization of the church that is currently going on right now. That’s why there’s a lot of fearful guys in the church who succumb to their own pornographic fantasies. Such as indulging in porn, video games, smoking, etc
Women like fairy tales. Men like the truth. You should only be going to church if you like fairy tales.
Good point
ITS A WASTE OF TIME!!!!!!!!!!!🔥🔥
The Bible is mostly spiritual warrior language. Israel is a warrior nation obeying God and a holy society obeying God and His prophets. In the New Testament we put on the armor of God in our walk. We're good to go, even if the brick churches have become something else.
Y’all have internalized this to Death. If it’s hard to tell Jesus in prayer that you Love him and that you honor and adore him because that kind of vulnerable language disagrees with your cultural masculinity, then you have made the Culture your god.
God’s love for us is so much deeper than a loyal friend in battle. Marriage is for Life a battle is for a season, that’s one reason why they chose that language of us being the collective bride of Christ which includes men and women. You can be manly and Love God without needing a battle to justify that.
You shaming men and failing to put forth a convincing alternative vision is reflective of how the church fails men.
Hey Mark, there is abox of wine and some cats WAITING for you! Please dont let them wait. They NEED you more than we need you, and your simpish message! The culture is FEMININE now, NOT masculine. So what the church is doing is being feminine! You have that completely backwards! Maybe your god is really Jezebel and NOT YHWH? What color dress are you going to wear, miss bride? No sane nor sober man wants to wear a dress or be a bride! LOL
Women tend to be more spiritual and men are more logical so sometimes it's difficult to put logic on the back-burner at times and become spiritual.
Who told you that?
I think you meant women are more emotional
The prophets were spiritual and logical.
1hr of talk 5 min of a shake down.
LMAO! And how is that different than ANY other part of life? If you are really concerned about shake down, no one is shaking you down HARDER than Big Nanny-State government! That tax you all day long on everything! they dont ask nicely, like church does. They demand it!
Everybody hates going to church. Men have GOT to stop the whining. It's so pathetic.
First!!
Where does it say you are building "your own kingdom?" You should be about your fathers business, building HIS kingdom...You need to check your pride bubba, its ALL HIS
Women hate it too, just ask them. Stop making it a "men thing".
Well women are usually representative of 55-70% on average of church attendees so it is easy to focus on men not being in the church.
@@carltoncoleman454 That's because women are shamed all the time. Women are taught to be complicit otherwise they will be shamed. It's hard to break that. It's not hard to figure that out.
@@carltoncoleman454 exactly, the hell are they talking about lol
Church hasn't been a "men thing" for a VERY long time.
@@adamwalker2377 I didn't say church, I said the hatred of going to church. That is a human thing which scores of women are part of, not just men.
How the fuck dies this dude have a podcast with thousands of viewers? He talks like a high school kid trying to sound deep.
The OT does talk about being in relationship with God..... Gods people were called his bride.... what are you talking about?
That is true. But that is the overall picture. I believe what he's talking about is that men don't want to hear that constantly. Like when you hear or see billboards say something like "Join our church, it's about relationship not religion" I've seen this! And men don't use that language often. It's a turn off. But you are correct.