Kratos ASH Fading! What Does This Mean! (DISCUSSION)
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- čas přidán 24. 06. 2024
- The God of War Series is known for Kratos's ash. However the Ash on his body is slowly fading away! What does this mean for the God of War Series!?
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I think Kratos's skin fading is symbolising forgiveness for his first wife and daughter.
That's exactly what I thought
Nah it just goes to show how gone Greece is. The curse is fading away. These theories are also coming from the click bait title "caliope is alive. New info" then proceeds to give no info. Fuck what this guy has to say.
Same here i feel like rhe ash is fading because he not only forgives himself for the past, but because he's becoming the god of hope, and he's fully redeeming himself.
I think the ash is fading because Kratos is forgiving himself (in his own way) and is admitting to forgetting the past. When he speaks of Elysium he says how for many years he wished he had stayed but when he met Faye those feelings went away, he has forgotten his daughters song. When he speaks of the past he speaks with contempt because he understands that his actions in past while yes influenced by the gods he ultimately brought it upon himself for being narrow minded and not seeing the bigger picture. The old Kratos was brash and ruthless, this new Kratos thinks before he speaks (like his spartan training thought him) but now when he speaks there’s a lack of rage, he doesn’t scream at every turn and when he does it’s not out of pure anger anymore, most of the time it’s because he’s worried about his son. Yeah I know that he was cursed to have nightmares and the ash, but the evidence shows a lack of nightmares and the ash is fading. Maybe the way to break the curse of his past sins it takes his forgiveness not anyone else’s. That’s how it works in the real world, don’t matter what people say if you don’t believe it then it’s not true. But that’s just a game theory thaanks for reading 👊
The ashes are so iconic to Kratos that I don't see the developers removing them. It's gonna be like the new Kratos where the games may mention that they are coming off but it's still visible enough to be recognizable. There are some special scenarios where the developers can remove them such as dreams, flashbacks, or one of those memories in Valhalla.
Nah, i disagree. I think they should fade showing his growth as a person/god redeeming himself. Sure its iconic to him, but to remove it, to show that he's forgiven himself and redeemed himself i feel is way cooler and just better character growth
He's getting his pass back
I honestly thought before the 2018 game, it was just for a ascetic and realism of ash. Because if you look at his tattoo markings they were kinda faded as you do get older and get no touch ups of a tattoo in real life
I think it's possible that Kratos is starting to accept all that he did, and now his skin is starting to revert because of it.
No one gon talk about that clean ass transition?
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3:06 nice touch jon
For me it's connected to his mind (+ all the things you talked about in the video). As long as he remembers and blames himself for the murder of his wife and child the ashes stays. When he started to forgive himself and started a new family the ashes started to come off
The ash is kind of a symbol of not forgetting the dark history of Kratos and to not repeat the mistakes like you said Jon. Would be cool to see it kind of fade but also have small remnants of ash left behind to not forget past Kratos and how badass he was. Great vid Jon!
Kratos even says to Freya that the Land is only a reflection of the people that cared for it.
The series has always been about the consequences tue ash is for life it may diminish with acceptance but he will carry that as long as he draws breath
It won't ever go away (goes against the whole acceptance thing) but Cory does say it's going away a little bit; I think its symbolic of kratos' actions still existing, but the sin of the action going away.
Well you said it yourself the ash is bound to Kratos and not necessarily his homeland I also think that Kratos spreading Faye’s ashes are a parallel to the ashes bound to his skin. I think it’s fading as a symbol that he is being forgiven for his past actions and that is why the ash is fading’ but the ash isn’t fully gone because it is attached to past events he cannot change. Rising from the ashes like a phoenix’ Kratos rises from his past, he even does this In his Battle with Zeus and in his Battle with Thor he comes back to life. I think the ash is a physical manifestation of his lineage to his past wife and daughter’ that connects him to his reputation as “the ghost of Sparta”so in a way his homeland Greece can not fall unless Kratos himself falls. As though Kratos himself is a product and remnant of Greece’s most powerful Magic. Kratos is an ember of his homeland, and his daughter and wife were his home’ as Kratos was the home to his family, when he made the mistake to destroy them they instead bonded to him forever. And so even though Greece was destroyed in a way the Best parts of his homeland survived in the form of Kratos and the ashes of his family. So can Kratos homeland truly be destroyed’ not if he views family as home. Heimdall destroying Atreus would in fact Destroy what home means to Kratos in the Norse land, which is why Kratos would risk war with Odin at the cost of destroying the land because Atreus means home to Kratos.
I see it as a very long time jump. In real life, tattoos fade over time. The same can be said here with the tattoo and the ash. It’s speculated that around 200-500 years takes place in between GoW 3 and GoW 4. So it makes sense why they would be fading with that amount of time.
6:19 that shit is not coming off 😂
I don’t think it will fully come off as it may signal that he’s forgiven himself.
After Valhalla, I do believe that Kratos has finally accepted his wrongdoings to move on. However, I’m sure he is consciously letting himself remember the atrocities he’s caused upon Greece and hence why his skin may just remain ashy forever
I've thought so about this.
i also noticed how the ash was fading , i think since he’s growing and changing as a person so is the ash on his skin
Interesting theory😮
I think they may start doing what Capcom did with resident evil and do a couple remakes then release the next newest god of war in which I feel tyr will be the main guy having Kratos going to different lands to gain the love of many people to become the true god of hope.
kratos still has the n nord pass
I always thought that the ashes are naturally decomposing and not that the magic is weakening. I thought that the spell that put the ashes on Kratos’ skin made the ashes sticky so it can never be removed from his skin even if you tried to remove the spell. I think the magic went away the moment the spell was done because the ashes were already attached to his skin like Glue. So the ashes are naturally decomposing rather than the magic fading. The one thing that goes against this is Kratos going to Elysium.
Another thought I had was that the ashes in a way become literally become another layer of skin for Kratos, like the ashes became his actual skin. And just like my first theory, the magic was gone the moment the spell was done and since the ashes are literally Kratos new skin, it wouldn’t have mattered if all the magic in Greece went away when Greece was destroyed. And the reason why it fades over time is cuz people shed their skin over time. And when Kratos goes to Elysium, the ashes stay whereas his tattoo goes away is because his tattoo is technically not his skin.
I don’t know, those are the two theories I have
How about the ash is not like the same because of his age? When you have a 50 years old tattoo in your body, its not gonna be shine and bright like the first day
Idc what anyone says I'll always personally see Kratos has Afro-Greek because I think him being half black is awesome!!! If you disagree with me that's completely fine but please be respectful.
Thank you
I wondered if Kratos skin with ash and tattoo could be near it's end on the Egyptian saga of God of war next or simply have his tattoo kept but make it blue to signify him being more of a calm and reasonable man he's become himself as?
Its one of those things that Kratos' look is too iconic now and if they were to ever change it drastically it would probably hurt the brand like u said. Kratos will always be the ashen warrior
In chains of Olympus, I think the ash comes off. He just has light skin for some reason, maybe because it was made by a third party development studio.
I like the theory that the further from Greece he gets, the more it fades, it brings an interesting question: if he goes back to Greece, will the ash get more vibrant??
it,s called olive skin
All curses have a cure in mythology and magic, and I think the cure to Kratos curse..is him forgiving himself for the part he played in the death of his wife and daughter, I don’t think he will ever truly forgive himself..but I believe he has come a long way and that is why it is fading
It means it’s fading over time it’s been a thousand years
"From this night forward, the mark of your terrible deed will be visible to all. The ashes of your wife and child will remain fasten to your skin. Never to be removed"
Do u understand the word "never" ?
The director striaght up said it was fading. You can use your own eyes to also see its fading... message Santa Monica and tell them about what you just commented. Im just giving my thoughts on it
@@JonFord this does not make sense
First they make them impossible to be removed and then they decided " hmm maybe we will slowly start to removing these ashes"
3:06 nice touch when kratos putting the blades on his back @@JonFord
The more good Kratos does the more the sins of his past are forgiven, as the ash is slowly going away the better the person he becomes
I'd personally love to see brown skin Kratos again!!! I miss it!!! Give him back his melanin!!!
Tbh I know it would be slightly more difficult marketing Kratos without ash but I think eventually people will get used to it. I mean if people adjusted to the design changes between the Greek and Norse Kratos, then it's not that crazy to imagine people accepting another change. Plus if for some reason in the futures Kratos isn't the main character anymore, then I don't think his skin color matters. Also I believe the ash is fading because he's accepting himself and forgiving his sins. So the ash losing it's color represents his gulit and shame being lifted.
Now that you mention how Kratos stated he dreams of the past every night. What if his nightmares in his sleep are the visions that constantly used to haunt him back then 24/7 but just died down and he only gets them when he sleeps now?🤔
I don’t think it’s necessarily because of him forgiving himself or his family forgiving him because the curse placed on him said he would wear his families ashes forever. I think it’s less literal and more metaphorical in how his ashes are just naturally fading as he gets older to symbolize his age and how far he has come from his former self. It doesn’t make sense for the ashes to ever go away because it’s his burden that he must accept. Just like how he can technically find a way to get his tattoos removed but he has come to accept his past.
While the ashes will never fully go away I do think that his body is healing and maybe his skin is just somehow stained or really pale from lack of sun light
Kratos ash is fading away because he turned from a mortal to a superhero he will turn into a cosmic god like his mother callisto after her avatar was died
It means he will finally have his own olives
It's to remind him of what he's done and that guilt is fading away it has nothing to do with Greece
Magic is bound to the homeland, why does Kratos blades still flame?
We he let's go the ash will let go
Well the theory that his magic died with his homeland has got flaws because why do the blades of chaos still burn with fire and still have magic??
Greece was destroyed so the magic was destroyed….. idk if distance is playing a role…. But remember the ash IS HIS SKIN…. AND skin cells get replaced over time….
maybe his ashe will leave him fully when he dies... maybe
I think kratos also got rid of the ash in chains of Olympus no?
*Edit
I just checked the cutscene and indeed,kratos losses his ash while on the forsaken tree.While doing that,he depletes his magic orbs which further proves your point that the ash is bound to the earth like magic.Great theory !
it means , kratos is losing his edge ... going soft . time to kill Atreus and get his colour back then continue his rampage of anger and distruction
3:25 yeah we know🤣🤣🤣
I actually thought it was being knocked off of him throughout the games
I hope not he looks cooler with his ash skin
@jonford i want to add something important yo what you said in the video please,
When you said that that kratos ashes are fading because it’s related to his home greece well it’s not you see kratos ashes is resemblance of family and its bound to him by a curse from the oracle to remind him of his failure, so the ashes is a constant reminder that he failed his family he failed to protect them ect. You know and kratos blame himself for it. So the true reason for his fading ashes is not related to greece homeland nor powers nor magic and nothing can break this curse you said it in the game chains of olympes when he got back to his form when reuinited with his daughter he was still white because no power can lift this curse not even traveling to another realm so nothing can break this curse only one thing can break the curse and its moving on, forgiving himself and accepting his fate, accepting his actions and forgiving them and we see that in valhalla that’s why his ashes are fading thank you for your content brother much love ❤️❤️ keep up 😌
if the ashes were bound to Greece, it wouldn't be important where you are outside Greece, especially that Greece was destroyed, and 1000 years are passed. Maybe its just time...
Isit only his ash
or his power & strength
1st
I wonder what he'll look like next game or by the end of that saga
I think when they get to Christianity, Kratos is going to be a Biblical character under a different name.
hes forgiving himself thats why
Didn’t Corey already confirm this ?
Given that Ragnarök is probably the end of his time as the main character, him losing the ash makes sense. He wouldn't be tanned, due to the climate, but I can see him having a complexion similar to Faye & Freya in the 1st God of Stories/Mischief/Hearth/Nets game.
Kratos is black….
How will be vallin in atreus dlc
There is no theory, Cory Balrog said the ash was fading away when the first Nordic game came out.
First
Kratos is black through and through do you see how much pacientes this man is put through all his life, cory stated the he was supposed to be black a long with his tattoo being blue instead of red
He’s not black get over it already lmao
Bruh don't start lol
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I never even heard of that channel till now. What about it? Did they also make a similar topic?
EDIT: I just visted the channel and gotta say.. Man are you insane? That whole channel is literally in another language. Do you not have any common sense?
@@JonFordDude, have you ever thought about this? There is such a thing as translation, even what you said is exactly the same.
Nah man you just can't think at all.
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CZcams wont even recommend me that person's channel because its in ANOTHER LANGUAGE. Gosh youre dumb
KRATOS IS BLACK!!!!
"From this night forward, the mark of your terrible deed will be visible to all! The ashes of your wife and child will remain fastened to your skin, *never to be removed."*
The ashes are not fading away. They never will.
"There is *no forgiving you."*