Why Cars Can Go Speeds They Can’t Legally Hit - Cheddar Explains
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- čas přidán 17. 01. 2022
- All around the world, speed limits are placed on public roads to promote car safety and save lives. In that same world, car manufacturers have continued to look for ways to build faster and faster cars. Despite the dangers of speeding, many drivers are guilty of pushing the pedal from time to time. With cars being such a prevalent culture in everyday life, especially in the US, it’s worth wondering what it would take for car companies to once and for all settle the argument of safety versus freedom.
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“Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary, that's what gets you.”
- Jeremy Clarkson
When I was learning to drive, a friend of mine told me repeatedly, "the brake pedal gets you into more trouble than the gas pedal."
Getting rammed into by a car makes you gain speed and lose life
So the faster you go the more of a chance you’ll die……
Suddenly becoming stationary at 5mph won't kill you, stopping abruptly from 170mph will definatly kill you.
Technically, speed doesn't kill you, it's acceleration (or deceleration)
Speeding is dangerous in the US because of the lack of driver's discipline, which I've mentioned several times in my videos. The Autobahns in Germany have LESS deaths per mile/km even with unrestricted speeds on many parts of the autobahns. We don't need speed limiters, we need better driver discipline
I don't know how I can get this comment higher up, but if I comment on your comment and like your comment, maybe more people will see your comment, because it's a really important thing to point out.
also better built roads with fewer inconsistencies. helps allot. and a culture of attention while driving. porsche was confused when people wanted cup holders.
this.
@SolQuik natural selection
Germany can install better driving discipline due to availability of alternatives to driving: pedestrian spaces, bicycle lanes, and mass transit, with Inter City Express (ICE) trains the most prominent. Try to do that in USA:
• "You are taking away my freedom!"
• "How can I get to work?"
• "Why take away my ability to travel."
In summary, USA is very automobile dependent; in order to practically travel anywhere, a car is needed. The car is the symbol of freedom because when it is removed, Americans are "trapped"; there is simply no other option.
In Germany, if the authorities notice a significant number of accidents on a certain portion of roadway, they call in an engineer to fix the problem. They redesign the curve, they re-grade the road, whatever it takes.
In the US, if the authorities notice a significant number of accidents on a certain portion of roadway, they start issuing lots of traffic tickets on that portion of the road, and it becomes a steady source of revenue for the city.
Another major reason why they don't want to limit the speed of cars in the US that you may have touched on is that speeding tickets account for a very large percentage of revenue for the police departments and states.
Nailed it.
If I can't control how fast I drive. Then I'm just gonna take the bus.
I have a brother in law who is a state trooper. He only pulls over those doing over 15+ the limit. He calls himself a tax collector in a uniform.
Pretty common, especially in cities due to flow of traffic being more important than the speed limit.
Still not wise to speed around a cop though, never know whos got a stick up their butt of a quota that day
@@goldenhate6649 There's a big difference between city cops and troopers. I would say near universally state troopers are going to leave you alone as long as you're under 15 over the speed limit. Unless you're in an area where speeding is uncommon (they actually do have quotas). If you get pulled, you're not getting a warning though (at least in NC).
City cops are very much likely to get you doing even just 5 over (sometimes even less, but you can easily plead that down to faulty equipment). But they are also likely to be the most lenient in some jurisdictions too.
Sheriff deputies.. you have to be really moving to get their attention or if they are bored. If you're going too fast they probably won't even bother. They are also most likely to give a warning depending on the elected sheriff. Very low crime areas means boredom. Something to keep in mind.
High speeds on dry highways with attentive drivers are not anywhere near as dangerous as medium speeds and distracted drivers.
Add snow for maximum chaos.
You could be looking at your phone and kill a kid doing just 10mph
@@dbclass4075 add snow in a place that doesn’t normally get it and thats a legit crisis 😂
The only times I nearly crashed, were, when I was stuck behind a slow driver and not paying attention, when I'm breaking the speed limit, even by a few miles, I'm usually a lot more engaged in actually driving
@@dbclass4075 Time to use the handbrake for maximum fun.
Calling the Autobahn a stretch of road is just wrong my friend. It's our equivalent to the US interstate system. Funny thing is even without speed limit, our highways are safer vs the ones in neighboring countries.
In comparison... it is just a stretch of road.... America is the size of Europe & Germany isn’t even the size of Texas or New York
@@elijahdryden1564 Jup but you forget that the Autobahn is a more dense network. Germany is only 1/30 of the size of the US our Autobahn network is however only approx. 1/6 of the US interstate system. So it's definitely not a "Stretch of roads" ;)
Hmm better check your sources for the last part, the French autoroute and the British motorway are statistically safer than the German Autobahn
@@edipires15 True while the autobahn is safer than highways in spain or norway. Generally speaking the Autobahn is relatively safe vs other European countries. Plus germany is the main hub from any transport from east europe to the western part.
Well he did say it went on for thousands of km (or may have said miles). Some 'stretch'! So I think just a slip of the tongue.
I once had to outrun a tornado on the interstate in texas. Both the cop next to me and I were going 130+ - it was heading right toward us and we were able to cut in front of it. If the car had a speed regulator I’d be dead.
Dude wtf, it's like in a movie, but in real life
I can't believe no one mentioned this, but there are also hills and mountains you drive up and down on. Engines need to be capable of giving you the power to traverse them. And then also you don't want that to be maxing out your engine when you do go on those trips. That leaves you a lot of extra power to work with in more flat terrains.
because in Germany you can xD
Lmfao
yes yes yes!
They only thing that I envy Germany for... And the good condition of the roads.
Yeah, every german knows, german car manufacturers started, producing cars that can go faster then the speedlimit in other countries and soon Tourism skyrocketed in Germany. Other car manufacturers followed to compete in the german car market
A German here- only a few parts are where you can go fast as you want
The "Autobahn" isn't just "a stretch of road". It's a huge network of roads going all over Germany. You'll drive on the Autobahn pretty much every time you travel between cities. Also, many parts of it do have speedlimits (sometimes also electronically regulated depending on traffic and conditions). But most of it indeed doesn't have a speedlimit.
And also, I'd hope and am pretty sure that every car's speedometer shows a much higher maximum speed than what the car is actually capable of (unless it's modded of course). After all, you really don't want to hit the max and suddenly be unable to know whether you're getting faster or slower or how fast you're actually driving.
Felt like Cheddar lacked proper research this time. This video also has huge levels of Gen Z-anti car vibes.
It's just like calling the "Interstate" as "A chunk of road".
@@reinoutdegeest881 gen-z anti car vibes lmao put down your Crack pipe my dude
@@akselhansen304 I think rather you should put down your Crack pipe. Seems more fitting.
@@akselhansen304 what is he talking about?
Next you should do a video exploring why the US has been reluctant to improve driver training. Most people know little to nothing about traction, car control, braking, and driving techniques taught in performance driving schools throughout the country. My friend in Florida got his drivers license in a parking lot, and people wonder why car insurance rates are so high there. Meanwhile finland is steady producing road racing champions having far better road safety per capita.
I'd point the worst drivers also tend to come from warm weather states as the provisional license rules doesn't teach a learning driver "This is a bad time to drive or to learn about traction and car control". High quality racing drivers disproportionately also seem to come from Illinois, Wisconsin, Indiana, Ohio, Michigan, etc when compared to Florida or Texas due to a combo of proximity to Indianapolis and the weather to develop various techniques.
Because the easiest way to get onto federal disability support is to prove you are unable to drive
This was the longest and most elaborate way of saying "Because people like it when cars are fast" I've ever seen
Tailgating at 70 mph it is far more dangerous than going at 100 mph on a open road.
Speed, in the abstract, it's just an easy value to instill fear and monetize tickets.
Depends on the type of road. On a controlled-access highway in good weather conditions, maybe. On a country road with lots of bends and side junctions, Probably not. Are you gonna have enough time to react, break and stop at 100 if some vehicle does a poor emerge?
@@LRC92 The enforced limit on roads like that is 65-70, which is massively too fast for the places those features exist, but too low in between. Limit enforcement gets treated as a minimum speed, making those places more dangerous.
If it isn't other cars, it can be animals. It really not about how useless speeding is, it's about how often people do it in dangerous context. That is obviously too much currently.
that's the point
This comment deserves more likes
Before even watching, I'm going to hope the answer is: Gearing and Fuel Efficiency. That's why Overdrive Gears exist.
We don't actually expect people to hit Max Speed on Commutes, but as long as cars are "geared to go fast" they can then just sit in a Higher gear while going slower which gets Better MPG. That's all there is to it. It was a Science/Engineering Reason.
Hewwo senpai, you have nice Weebvette there
oh hey bladed where’s Miata actually how’s the miata
They referenced the ssc tutatuara 😂😂
was not expecting to see one of my favorite car youtubers in this comment section but hi lol
Ah emperor bladed
I can't believe an actual suggestion to slow down drivers is to make lanes smaller so there's more obstructions on the road, making it harder to see things further away... That sounds to me like a recipe to induce MORE accidents, not less... Many of the people causing accidents aren't paying enough attention to the road as it is, so let's just go ahead and make that even harder to do...
"why would I ever have to go that fast" to catch up to the person who hit you and ran
Why do American cars only go 63 Fahrenheit per hour?
better than going 17 centigrade per hour
Because 12 inch are 1 foot
@@superspooky4580 at least our water is not salty
@@oichilli7309 and doesn't have lead in it
@@oichilli7309 the water over here in Germany isnt salty at all, I definitely like drinking my couple litres of water ... oh sorry i mean gallons or barrels,
choose whatever you like
Short answer:
1. Car top speeds are determined by their highest gear.
2. A car is most efficient on its highest gear at the lowest rpm.
3. Cars still need the rpm range to rev up and shift gears.
4. Therefore, for cars to be efficient, car companies can't limit gears. And for cars to be able to achieve a wide range of speeds, they can't limit rpm.
5. Well what about electronic limiters? Yeah, you can limit them then. But who's gonna pay more for less ability? Not the government and definitely not a consumer.
1. Not always by it's highest gear. In plenty of cars the highest gear is an overdrive gear and top speed is only reached in a lower gear.
2. Each engine runs most efficient under a certain load at a certain rpm. The job of a transmission is it to keep it in this range as much as possible under normal conditions.
3. They don't need the full range, but you get more power at higher RPM.
5. Germans do it this way: They limit the cars and make it an option to remove or increase the limiter. My car has a limiter at officially 155mph but in reality more like 162mph. The option for the limiter to be moved to 175mph is 1500€
@@ego4551 pay to remove handicaps. That sounds like something Tesla would do.
really? when I drive in a high gear and I brake that the RPM drop below 1000, the motor doesn't have enough power to hold that speed and thus my car will come to a hold.
A car's top speed isn't always achieved in its highest gear. Also many more powerful cars do have their top speed electronically limited, and that isn't kept a secret, its usually in the general info pack. On some models you can pay extra to have that speed limiter removed. So its who's going to pay more for more?
I would chose an electric car with a speed limiter over other cars without them. I tend to drive way too fast to stay in the flow of others on the road and I am constantly slowing back down. If there was a physical limiter, I could just set the speed I want to go and push the peddle to the floor. Oh and cruse controls are nice, but no limiter.
I got a speeding ticket for going 80~85 on a bright clear day in the left most lane at or within 10 miles if the cars around me. Best to say I was mad as hell. I was cruising safely and ticketed when the speed limit was 65 but I gaurantee the car in front of me was doing 80. Wish limits were 75~80 in highways. Just makes sense to me. If u want to go slow move right and vice versa . . . . .
The proper driving ethic should be to always drive through the right most lane and only use the other lanes to pass the vehicles in front of you. I don’t blame you for doing 85, I do over 90 all the time, but hogging the left lane is way more dangerous and impractical than speeding.
cry
That's an issue with you and your police officer. It was probably near the end of the month and needed a few more tickets to make quota. Just slow down when you see them.
You were going 15 to 20 miles faster than the speed limit. Why are you blaming the other drivers you’re the one who chose to speed and not just five or 10 miles over the limit !
It was a bad accident one day when someone was speeding and couldn’t see that there was an accident in the highway and ran into them.
There are moments where you might need to drive fast. Happens very rarely but they do happen.
Most modern cars already have speed limiters/governors in place; granted, they're usually there to keep the tires or the driveline below their failure points, but they're there nonetheless.
Nobody is objecting to have a speed limiter that prevents the car going over 250 Kmh/h. The problem is to have speed limiters set at half of it...
@@lorenzomazzorin5422 Here’s the thing, half of 250kmh? Is faster than the speed limits on 99% of roads.
@@Chimera_Photography the highway speed limit is 85mph or 135kmh where I live
@ContradictoryCrow you can't use the same rhetoric as a good guy with a gun here, it's just nonsense. Engaging in a high speed "escape" is dangerous for yourself and everyother driver on that road
@ContradictoryCrow you're actually funny, I prefer to asume you're a troll and leave it here
I drove school buses when the maximum speed was 35 mph. This was enforced by a speed governor. I found it really nice after I had dropped off my last student in the afternoon. I had a long ride back through the forested countryside to return to the school. It was beautiful scenery. With all the big windows and a quiet bus it was so pleasant of a drive. I also got paid by the hour, so holding me at 35 mph was no complaint from me.
our bus were forced 85kmh well some of them, and a couple times on a dirt road our bus driver would be going over 100kmh, then she just retired after 40years of doing it, and she was the king of the road i guess like it was scary sometimes, but nothing ever happened, and when i say i think it was 85kmh it looked like it.
@@bobbyknight3589 are driver ended up doing some crazy stuff never crashed but drifting when it lost traction a couple times it hydroplaned the front end was going opposite of the wheels, sometimes the rear end with swing out dangerious over the edge of the road, then again it was in the middle of a field so their not that many things to crash into.
@@bobbyknight3589 about 60mph
I bet the drivers stuck behind you were pissed though, lol
@@Kj16V No. It was a rural area. Virtually no other traffic. Other drivers could pass without incident.
Went on that 85 mph stretch in west Texas. Even in the 80 mph zone, people were easily pushing 100. You hit that 85 and you’re going 110 easy
I don't understand why speed limit on highways is lower than in Europe. Like people make 85mph a big deal in the US but it's normal throughout Europe. ( 85mph is 136kmh and most of Europe has 130kmh max speed limit, some even 140kmh ).
I have no clue why cause most of the US is pretty flat and in Central plains less populated than East Coast.
German here, I went to the Hanover airport yesterday by driving the A2. It was early so I could set the cruise control to 130mph and do 200 miles in 2 hours.
If a car can reach 200mph, it can also stop from 60 faster than a car that can only go 120mph. If car manufacturers didn't make cars faster or try to improve driveline components, we'd still have cars that stop from 60mph in over 200ft. Many cars now have that down to just about 100ft, which is a great improvement over cars from the 70's, 80's, and even 90's to an extent.
and the speed limits have gone down throughout the us as a result of the boomers complaining
@@jackradzelovage6961 Lowering speed limits INCREASE accidents. Like Clarkson said, it’s suddenly coming to a stop that kills you. If people paid attention and had logic, we could have much higher speed limits. Most modern sedans can cruise at 100 mph comfortably.
That’s actually how I failed my drivers test, I was a bit nervous and highly concentrated on the highway and larger roads, and when I got on to a small road with a considerable lower speed limit I relaxed and ended up missing a low visibility crossing, (I live in Sweden and some of our old roads are super small with horrible visibility, you pretty much have to come to a complete stop in every intersection to check for cyclists or people walking
The improvement in stop times over the decades is more because of better tires than anything else. Also not true about braking times from 60, braking is mostly limited by the tires and a better car would have maybe 20% better brakes at best on the same tires.
No, that's motorsport what's doing that.
What you failed to remember here, is that people who design and engineer these machines are indeed automotive enthusiast. Which means they like fast cars, no one who likes cars dislikes a fast car.
@CyberNET no it’s not bad
@CyberNET Thats not OC
@CyberNET Outstanding Condom
@@VSOP300blkout What are the perks of being a youtube comment comedian?
Thats strange. Most of the fast cars are owned by slow drivers.
I've just purchased a JDM kei car, a vehicle class that is heavily limited to physical dimensions, 64 crank hp, 660cc engines and the speedometer tops out at 140km/h! I'm fairly certain these vehicles have been "factory tuned-down" to be compliant due to the fact that the 650kg turbo car I purchased has the same exact power rating as a non-turbo variant. I'm looking forward to its delivery and the experience of driving it!
I am curious, now that its been over a year, how fast have you gotten that machine to go? And which make and model Kei-car is it? Is it a Suzuki Cappuccino?
@@Avetho It's been a really fun journey, coil overs, wheels, tires, front mount intercooler, new turbo, exhaust, front aero bumper and paint😅 I'm not done yet, but I've got 120km/h on the expressway so far. It's a 1997 Suzuki Alto Works SOHC🤙
@@allenplant1702 Ooh that's a nice car, the mini hot hatch with a hood scoop :D
"1500-2000 rpm, about 60 mph" my car is going at 2650 rpm at 60 😂💀👀
Below 1500rpm is ideal for fuel efficiency. You cant get good torque out of that though. For acceleration or hills, you would want at least 2000rpm, with the maximum torque around 3500rpm. For manual cars, you often drive ar as high a gear you can get away with without lugging, and you shift down a gear or even 2 if you anticipate the need to accelerate, like passing, merging, or hills.
I'm a huge car guy. I love fast cars. But it's something that needs to be respected. And used responsibly. If car companies decide to limit me, I'll just modify the car. There's easy ways around the speed limiters.
Exactly. Just because I car can hit 150 doesn’t mean everyone is gonna be flooring it everywhere. I hate how they try to control everything “for our safety”
@@Nexalian_Gamerunfortunately, theres just stupid people in the world which are the reason those rules are made
@@Nexalian_Gamerit is safer to go slower believe it or not, maybe you're responsible but not everyone is, and entrusting everyone to be safe in multi ton hunks of metal isn't reliable. The gaurenteed alternative is limiters.
@@aaronthetree3758 except a car is just dangerous enough at legal speeds. And alcohol is a much bigger problem in motor vehicle accidents
The thing is that they’d probably make it a requirement to have a functioning speed limiter to be able to register your vehicle or renew it. I’m sure there’d still be ways around it but yeah.
I think another good point would also be that on a lot of US highways slow cars clog up the left lane (fast lane) instead of getting over to the right lane (slow lane) this can cause accidents because people going to speed limit or over it have to watch out for people who are going 10 under the speed limit causing people to weave in and out of traffic
Yes, THIS!
No, it's usually people going 5 miles over the speed limit slowing down people trying to go 10-20 miles over the speed limit.
Or it's that the road is near its capacity and people just don't like that traffic slows everyone down.
@@cadekachelmeier7251 5 mph above the speed limit on the passing lane is still lower than the standards. Now what about these drivers just move over to right lanes when someone is speeding behind them?
@@Deafscrafty7 “standards” 😅 is that what you tell the officer when you get pulled over?
@@cadekachelmeier7251 Cade is right, it’s people traveling slightly faster in order to pass slower vehicles (such as trucks) that makes the speeders 20mph+ over the limit have to slow down to only 5ish over.
In other words, it’s people using the passing lane as a passing lane that cause the law breakers, the speeders, to get road rage.
I'm from Slovenia, speed in urban areas is limited to 50 km/h, outside of urban areas is 90 km/h and on highway (two lanes plus emergency one on the right) is 130 km/h.
The fastest I went was 160 km/h on a short straight, dry road with speed limit of 90 km/h... Before I did it I made sure no one is behind me, ahead me and that I could see ahead all the time (no downhills or uphills)...
I used a 2009 petrol Kia Cee’d caravan (it has just under 110 bhp and only 5 gears).. I found online that the max speed is limited to 185 km/h, but I'm not sure if my car even has a limiter... The speedometer ends at 240 km/h though...
Good arguments for fast cars:
1. There are emergency driving situations where speeding up to escape traffic is desirable. You probably need to add quite a bit to the speed of traffic to get the maximum speed a vehicle needs to have reasonable acceleration at. Because this speed wouldn't only be used for emergency driving, if the speed limit in Texas is 85, and people actually go 95, you probably need to be able to quickly go from 95 to 110 in at least some an emergency situation. And if you can quickly reach 110, being able to slowly reach 125 is probably inevitable.
2. Speed limits are not the same everywhere. Texas has roads where the speedlimit is 85 mph. Germany has roads where it's unlimited. Some states are 55 mph statewide.
3. Power and top speed are related. Without an artificial governor, top speeds of a car that can climb hills or accelerate through onramps at 65, 75, 85 mph against a stiff breeze will be way higher that that. Especially since ideally you don't want the engine RPM very high for freeway cruising. You are unlikely to have gear-limited speeds in the two digit mph range.
4. Artificial governors can be disabled or altered in all sorts of ways. It may be that this would be very common and thus just create a losing arms race.
5. It isn't actually that important. Divided highways are one of the safest types of road. Going 100 mph on a road designed for you to go 85 mph isn't as bad as going 50 mph on a road designed for 35 mph. Or a neighborhood "street" designed for 35 mph (which really shouldn't exist). Limiting the top speed of cars on a rural freeway is less important than limiting the practical speed of cars on a neighborhood street. Most car-related deaths come not from people driving too fast on super high speed roads designed as such but people driving too fast on slower, mixed use stroads.
Here in Germany it really isn’t uncommon to have people driving at 200+ km/h. And to be honest, for me and many others it would be unthinkable to have cars that can’t go past a certain, much lower speed. And trust me, it’s fun to drive that fast!
When someone in your family is crippled by a speeder, you may reconsider your stupidity.
It’s also dangerous. 😐
@@supercat2087 that’s why it’s fun, cuz it’s dangerous and you are a single wrong move from tragedy
@@supercat2087 Germany has much safer roads than most places with speed limits.
Germany has also a lower Accident rate then capped countries
Couple of inaccuracies right off the bat: the SSC Tuatara’s speed attempt has since been debunked and just because a speedometer indicates a certain speed is far from indicative of a given vehicle’s top speed.
Also speed isn't dangerous just the rapid of change acceleration is dangerous.
@@tcs07d except it is (?) i dont understand you.
Yeah, manufacturers often cut costs by putting the same speedometer in different cars
We used to have a 2006 Honda Odyssey. The speedometer on that went to 160, even though a couple searches online found that the top speed was 120
@Narja From the point of view of fundamental physics, they're correct. The dangerous bit is when you hit an obstacle and are forced to slow down from 65mph to zero within about a foot or two, which is the same acceleration as from zero to that speed within that distance, just with the acceleration being applied opposite to the travel direction. That's remarkably likely to kill you.
Similarly, if you were to hit a pedestrian, travelling at 65mph obviously causes no harm to a person, but getting accelerated from 0 to 65 within barely any space or time at all very much will.
Obviously the acceleration of the car under its own power is not a hazard, it's the external circumstances that cause unforeseen acceleration that are, which makes it extremely ill advised to drive too fast for the kind of road and environment that you're in, so semantically you're correct as well.
theres also the fact that you can bring street vehicles to racetracks, as well speed limits are a fluid thing, a couple of canadas highways just had the maximum speed limit upped to 110 km/h, obviously there are ceilings to this. the other thing to consider is i would bet that speeding in cities where pedestrians and cyclists are a factor is significantly more of an issue
it depends on where you are. In Germany, many parts of the Autobahn (~highway) are without speed limit, so you can go as fast as you want if possible
Here's a common misconception: speed is dangerous and speed is the main cause of accidents. That's simply wrong. See how all these reports say "speed related accidents" or "accidents involving speeding"? These terms include virtually all crashes since in North America, it's an unwritten rule to drive a certain amount over the speed limit.
Speed is a multiplier of deadliness of a crash, when a crash does happen, but it's almost never the cause of accidents. If you want to make cars safer, focus on driver assistance technology, i.e. driver alertness monitoring, lane keeping, automatic emergency braking, forward crash prevention. Drivers are increasingly distracted when driving and make bad decisions. Speed limits are static, road conditions are very dynamic. Limiting a car to 60 mph does nothing to prevent a deadly crash when a driver goes 60, the speed limit, when the visibility is shorter than the stopping distance from 60 mph.
The most dangerous thing about a typical car on the road is its driver.
Not speed kills you, sudden deceleration does.
Driver assist and Lane assist is usually worse if the driver knows it's there they think it's a safety blanket that makes them the perfect driver. Remove that crap from the car and replace it with a driver that passed actually driving tests and courses. Don't make a car to do the drivers job you will just engineer smarter idiots.
Exactly, you can limit cars to 80MPH but that won't stop people from doing 80 in a school zone(15mph in the US I guess ?).
Inappropriate speed is dangerous, not the speed itself.
Total bull. If you were talking about how deadly speed is on a closed course I'd agree with you, but that's not real world driving and doesn't apply to how speed affects highway fatalities.
I didn’t read your whole comment because you wrote so much, but the higher 1 cause is the drivers are dangerous, not the speed.
Make sure your tires can go that fast as well.
Always check the tire’s speed rating for safety.
Tire speed rating should always be over the max speed of the car. Or there is a sticker / warning in the cockpit
@@Incoming1983 Yes this is precisely why nearly all cars already have speed limiters set to the maximum speed of the stock tires
Speed isn’t an issue in of itself
It’s a whole set of factors that come into play including awareness, position , anticipation etc …
Just go to any supermarket on a busy Friday afternoons d observe how people with shopping trolleys struggle to interact or how two people in the same isle in opposite directions causes total confusion …
See this and you will understand it’s not always the speed but the basic ability to move around in an ever changing environment that many people just can’t cope with
I wanna know what commercial plays at around 6:30. I thought it was a camry, but I can't find any info and its blurry/small.
It's a Corolla
,,speeds that are definitely illegal on any road."
**Germany laughs in Autobahn**
let's see if it stays that way. there are lots of people that want to put a general speed limit on the autobahn.
i klicked on this video just to find this comment, since I knew some german had to schreib it.
Und wenn du es nicht getan hättest, würd ichs jetzt schreiben
Few problems with this video... Speed limiters are pretty much standard across the board on most US vehicles. But, its there because of the tires and/or driveshafts. The cheapie tires manufacturers throw on are only rated for so fast and allowing the consumer to exceed their speed rating could result in a blow out and a lawsuit. Driveshafts due to their length also become unbalanced at higher speeds and can rip themselves apart, again resulting in an accident and/or lawsuit. A tuning device will remove that speed limiter or set it to whatever speed you want as well, it's not difficult or insanely expensive to remove or change and lots of people do it.
Secondly, know you're audience. The majority of people who are buying high horsepower "Sport cars" aren't buying them to get groceries and go to work. Some do and that's a given, however there's drag strips, race tracks, etc all open to the public that lots of people who buy these cars are using. Manufacturers would shoot themselves in the foot neutering every single one of their vehicles to highway speeds and would prevent the people who own them from using them to their full potential where it is legal and safe (well that's relative) to do so.
Thirdly most FATAL car accidents in the US happen at 40MPH or less... so the speed argument is moot. Speed doesn't kill. Drivers who can't focus on the road, have a lack of understanding of what they are driving, no lane discipline, etc are the ones who are the biggest danger to everyone else and indirectly are the cause of a lot of accidents IMO.
I don't have metrics but from my personal expirence I see way more accidents on/off ramps, lane mergers, intersections and in urban areas then on highways or back roads, I honestly feel safer on the highway and feel that there's overall less to worry about as long as your paying attention, my only gripe is at least in the US a lot of our roadsigns for exits feel like they are way too close to said exit so it's a pain sometimes if you have say exit 15 A, B, C and D all within like 200 feet of road, granted that's kind of just the nature of how exits and highways work
The main problem is distracted drivers and people going at different speeds. A huge distraction is our smart phones.
Also, I disagree on limiting our cars speeds. We bought the car, we own it. Not the government.
"most FATAL car accidents in the US happen at 40MPH or less,"..., can you link this info? This is very interesting to me.
@@szargos a quick google search would do the job. You have access to the internet
The opening scene of this video was take in Crown Heights which is in Brooklyn NY.
I like the bit of Cheddar showing the DoT building but for the Federal Aviation HQ. Literally could have walked 4 blocks to the DoT HQ. 😂
One good point about no speed limit(Autobahn) is that you focus on the road more, because there could be a BMW with 200 kmph behind you and if you don't like that just go to the right lane where the trucks are.
if speed is the problem, please explain to my why its 3 times more likely to die on an american highway instead of the unrestricted german autobahn?
They designed their roads better, they take better care of their infrastructure, and getting a driving license is way harder probably?
@@scunicycler bingo
probably the american "stay in lane" vs. German "drive as far outside as possible"
or higher standards in terms of car safety. I mean in Germany, cars are legally required to go to a check-up every two years.
Trucks, Trailers and Vans are not driving unrestricted in Germany (regulated to either 55 or 62mph) when you look at High Speed Fatality vehicle types in the USA - the most likely you die - is in a Pickup. I think here is the issue, it's not the speed limit, it's the type of vehicle. You could probably get away with higher speed limits when you would limit it to the cars which actually can drive the speed safely. There are not almost not Pickups on German Autobahn.
@@scunicycler American drivers typically suck. It can be very frustrating on the daily commute.
"Illegal on any road" *laughs in autobahn*
What if there were a variable speed governor which varied depending on where you are? It could permit fast driving in certain areas and restrict it in others with high risk.
BTW, governor limited vehicles have a very specific reason for this that's not directly about just limiting vehicle speed. Tires are speed rated. Depending on how they're made and what they're made to do, they can only be spun so quickly without losing stability or failing, altogether. The manufacturer limits the vehicle speed based on the rating of the tires they put on it at the factory. Most of those tires are rated to 118MPH.
I’m glad you made this point bro 🙏🏽
Yep- the audi a4 is limited at 132 in us but 155 in germany because they have worse tires from the factory in the us 👍
Its really not tires, more of a combination of tires, the engine, and the transmission. For example ford and chevy trucks are limited in the low 110's because their transmission fluid cooler and engine oil cooler arent very good at super high load, the tires are not z rated (lol) and big trucks can kill much quicker if you hit someone at a high speed.
@@Winston-es1dl every truck these days is limited at 112 or around there for tire speed and safety, as a mechanic i personally havent seen manuals without a limiter
Not completely true. My car came from the factory with tires rated for 149mph but it's limited to 115mph.
Watching this as a German this whole question is quite confusing…
How fast do you generally go on the Autobahn?
130km/h (81mph) is recommended, but most people are going around 150 (93mph). Some people are mostly going 180-190 (112-118 mph) and very few people abow 200 (124 mph) upto 240-260km/h (149-162 mph)
@@nowelectric2811 I personally drive between 100-130km/h on the Autobahn.
@@SixFootScream sweet
@@yc__ There really is no point going any faster plus our gas prices are insane.
what is the last car at 9:04
The sweet spot for most petrol engines is about 2500 rpm and 80% load, but that's only true if you were using the engine as a generator. I've found in general the slower the better until I can't go any slower in my highest gear - so around the low 20s. Then there is a sweet spot for a particular power level - e.g. to do 60 mph, which is generally lower revving than the highest gear combination on the car allows.
Very interesting. I drive a Mustang with plenty of power and always laugh when people in little Kia‘s and similar fly by me like I’m barely moving. I try not to drive more than 10 mph over the speed limit, but it’s difficult because can be dangerous not to mostly go with the flow of traffic. As someone else commented, part of the issue is likely the 41 million tickets you mentioned. Significant revenue for municipalities.
I drive a mustang as well. I drove a different car before and i think people do it on purpose.
They are just jealous ig 😅
I get tailgated and passed unnecessaliy almost more often now. I dont even drive slow i usually would average probably 5 over if not a little more
@@doggofv to be fair, it depends on where you live as to what “slow” is. Where I live, the average for people is about 10-15 over and the minimum is 5 over. Personally, I go with the flow of traffic (as long as it’s not something crazy like 25 over) and maintain good distance between the car in front of me. I’ve found that this mitigates most of the frustration people have with slower drivers.
Same haha. People always try to race me but I drive like a grandpa most days. But every once in a while I’ll drop a gear to keep their egos in check. :)
I've noticed this happens a lot, where a car is going a certain speed (let's say 50 MPH) and another car (let's say going 60 MPH) will pass them and then the 50 mph car will speed up to keep pace. It's quite annoying
Beware of small towns in Colorado. They are extremely notorious for keeping patrols on 24/7 to pull over anyone going any speed over the limit. Passing through to the next state over, I got pulled over for doing ONE mph over the limit. Ticket? You bet. Not a very fun day for me.
"This car says it can go 140mph" No... no it doesn't say that. The speedometer just goes to 140 but that doesn't really mean anything.
Ive had it both ways. I had cars that could exceed the speedometer as well as cars that couldn't even get close.
True, pretty much everyone knows the number on the speedo means nothing. See the demero video on meter made cars it has an off-the-shelf Speedo that goes to 140 or something redic.
In Japan we've thought of that, cars in Japan used to have an annoying chime that would sound if you passed 100 km/h(62 MPH)
The bottom line is that, in most cases with a toll road, the public no longer owns the road. The road is privately owned. The owners can charge as much as they feel they can get away with to use their road. Politicians are taking the easy way out to fund the public road system, leaving highway users at the mercy of rent seekers. Publicly accountable and funded non-profit highways are less expensive than the same highways being used to harvest profit by private funders.
When I started driving in the 80's, the interstate speed limit for all 50 states was 55 mph. They also used to have speedometers which stopped at 85 mph, so beyond that you'd have no idea how fast you were going. They also had 4 cyclinder cars with probably 80 hp, and top speeds of around 75 mph. Things have changed a LOT in 35 years.
My 87 Hyundai's speedo stops at 115 MPH - I surpassed it (took a LONG time, tailwind and going down a hill) - this car only had 74 HP (when new, it was over 20 years old at the time)
Shit gearing in 3 speed automatics is more to blame than Iron Duke engines.
Umm yep you're like really old.
Yeah ain’t it crazy that most speed limits are still only 55 mph 40 years later cars have gotten faster, more efficient, and safer. And yet the speed limits haven’t changed
Where the hell are they 55? I've been driving from Toronto to NYC 15 years ago and the limit was IIRC 65, 70 at times. On the wya to Chicago, 10 years ago for my 30th, I was doing 70 Mph at times, 65 most of the way. Arizona, 20+ years ago I recall my old man doing 75.
@@the_kombinator it's still 55 on the 10 in Phoenix, but yeah 65 or 75 most elsewhere
3:03 Because certain places the speed limited is out dated. Most people WILL drive 5 - 10 over knowing that you probably won't get a ticket until you are 15 over. Then driving over the speed limit is more noticeable since everyone is going 5-10 over and you going 15 and sticking out like a sore thumb.
Ever try to drive 25 mph locally? Most people go 30 which seems to be the sweet spot. But they don't want to post it at 30 cause they know people will go 35 -40. So the government plays with numbers too knowing that people will most likely never go the speed limit.
So in general the current speed limit is right where it needs to be. Government knows that people will go over so they can give you a ticket and generate revenue. They ticket the most obvious speeders. The more noticeable you are weaving in and out of traffic or going way faster than everyone else that is also speeding the more likely you will get a ticket.
The entire reason that cars can technically reach much higher speeds than are legally allowed is almost entirely due to the mechanics and gearing involved. If you made a car that actually topped out mechanically at say 70mph, and not limited by a governor, the engine would be absolutely screaming at 70mph due to the RPMs, both killing the engine very quickly as well as getting horrendous gas mileage for its very short life. It would also be just incredibly unbearable to drive. So having a top (theoretical) speed of say 140 mph just actually makes it more comfortable to drive at normal speeds. Also, you wouldn't want the speedometer to top out at 70 since if someone ever went above 70, they would actually have no idea how fast they were actually going. And to top it all off, having really big numbers on the speedometer is a massive marketing tactic by the auto manufacturers.
The way I found out my old suv didn't have a governor was by speeding to get away from a tornado I hit 137 mph. My suv did not like that speed and had trouble staying in the lane. Never gone that fast since
the autobahn proves its not the car
it the experience of the drives,
in the Us the average person dont have the capacity to drive over 60
Why then do so many people want a 7 litre V8?
@@Phiyedough i just want a 454
In the US, going over 60 the driver has zero capability of staying in its own lane.
You wanna know what could safe even more lives than a speed limit like you have in the US?
I'll tell you, some actual driver tests and driving schools like we have here in Germany. Here you have to pass a theory test first (and to even be able to take the test you need to have at least 12 theory hours in a licensed driving school first!) and then you also have to pass a driving test (for which you also need to take at least 12 hours with a licensed driving school teacher).
Another thing to mention is our TÜV system. If you want to drive your car on the road in Germany you need to have a sticker from the TÜV. This sticker needs to be renewed every 2 years and they check for everything you can imagine and if your car isnt roadsafe anymore, well tough luck then, have fun riding the bus.
Those are some of the most notible reasons, why the US has 10.96 traffic fatalitys/ 100,000 persons and Germany has only 4.1 traffic fatalitys/ 100,000 persons.
Also quick mention for those who dont know much about the Autobahn: You do have a lot of parts with speed limits and the parts without speed limits are the parts of the autobahn that have significantly less (fatal) accidents then those with speed limits. Most parts without speed limits even have less (fatal) accidents then their counterpart with speed limits. breaking down why this is the case would take to long for just a CZcams comment but to sum it up: those parts often have very good visibility (meaning clearly visible roads, so no sharp curves etc.), are well maintained and dont suffer from a lot of weather influences that can cause accidents (i.e. fog banks, ice, etc.).
This would definitely be a great help here. But the reason this hasn't been seriously considered before and isn't in place today is because of our horrible car-centric infrastructure. In most cities in the US, there is little to no public transport. And if there is, it's probably not worth using since your trip time would be ridiculously higher than if you just drove. And even if the cities have good public transport, that almost never extends to the surrounding suburbs, like where I live. If I lived in my city then I'd almost never have to drive, but since I'm stuck in the suburbs that's the only thing I can do. Either take a 15 minute drive or a 1 hour and 25 minute bus ride.
This is exactly the choice that many of us make here in the US and the better of the two is plain as day. So until people actually have alternatives to driving, it's unfortunately not realistic for the government to be as strict with drivers as they should be. Taking away someone's license in Germany is an inconvenience and a lost privilege. Taking away someone's license in the US is taking away everything. They can't go to the store, they can't go to work, and they have no reasonable alternatives. And no, Uber is not a reasonable alternative to public transport.
Even with this being the case, I still think we should make our drivers education programs much better. Where I live, they're spitting out drivers that have no idea how to use our interstate system or which Lanes they should drive in or how to overtake or why they should follow the speed limit...I could go on. But I know we're a long way from seeing it. So in the mean time our civil engineers are toiling away at making insane traffic control devices that are as stupid proof as possible and creating larger and larger roads to support our ever growing fleet of cars.
In my (limited) experience the sections with speed limits are close to urban areas, so they have a lot more traffic and slip roads leading onto the Autobahn, creating extra hazards. Where you have more traffic by definition you will get more accidents.
Here in the UK we also limit the speed on busier sections of motorway. Unfortunately because we don't build enough roadspace to cope with the traffic, these speed limited sections are growing rapidly!
The problem is, American cities have been designed to be so car dependent, if you're unable to pass the driving test, you'd be quite screwed if you ever want to go anywhere.
We have the same here. You have to take a course, pass a test, and spend a certain amount of hours driving with an instructor to get a learner's permit. Then it is more of the same to get the licence. It has done nothing for us.
Recalculate those figures as accidents per 100,000 km driven and the story will change.
@Zaydan Naufal Might be TÜV as well but a different department. The TÜV does a lot of different things. They also certify FFP2 (European equivalent of KN95) masks as well for example. As far as I know they are active in all parts of the world so certifying pump stations in Indonesia might be amongst the things they do.
Also there are different TÜVs here in Germany as well, we have TÜV Rheinland, TÜV Nord, TÜV Süd, etc.
I remember in the 90’s Electronically limited top speeds were pretty common… usually around 110 / 120. They were a way of limiting the manufacturer’s liability for car instability at excessive speeds. Is that not a thing anymore?
The Autobahn isn't a "stretch of road", it's the german highway network. Plus, most of the parts I've been on have speed limits, although mostly it's something like 150km/h (93mph)
While i understand speed limits and i agree with Most of them in certain areas, I would argue that putting lower speed limits on roads that were developed for higher speeds also removes a certain amount of mental stimulation for the drivers making them more likely to get distracted or spaced out. When i pull into a neighborhood i subconsciously drive slower, it just feels normal but when i'm on a highway with a 45mph speed limit that is just as big as highways with 65mph speed limits i find myself either glancing at my speedometer significantly more or setting my cruise control and trying to convince my brain that it still needs to focus even though it feels like we're barely moving.
Honestly I dont see why 65 is the speed on highways when on average the speeds I have to drive on my commute to match other cars is 80, 15 over on average, it makes the driver not care about the speed limit as it seems unimportant since nobody else follows them. Like what you said speed should be determined by road design, not just a number posted.
@@James-gd3spOn Suburban city highways like I294, I465 average speed is usually 70-90mph while on rural interstates in indiana and illinois average speed is usually 80-95 mph on 70 zones, When. I was in germany it had an auto speed limit on city highways, like frankfurt city highway speed limit was 120 kmh or 75 mph, in chicago or indianapolis that’ll be 55 mph lmao.
As a Texan, I’ve taken the road with the 85mph limit. It’s a toll road that goes around Austin. Not a whole lot of traffic, and it’s so tempting to go faster. After all 100 is only 15 over, versus the average 30 over!
i mean, as a texan you are probably going 90 anyway on a highway
I love texas and fl open stretches for miles
i remember going to austin airport when i was young and my dad being pulled over for going 80 in a zone which was apparently 55 even though it was flat and you could see for miles
@@arjunyeleshwarapu yes but the local mayor's swimming pool isn't going to build itself.
Yeah, here in New Mexico it's insane how low the speed limits are. We don't even get 85, the highest is 75. Granted a lot of the roads are shit, but the speed limits are for revenue not safety. Virtually nobody follows it not even the cops.
There are actually multiple highways in multiple states here in the U.S. which have limits of 85mph.
If you look at the fine print, torque and horsepower values advertised for vehicles are usually at the 5-6 RPM engine range.
Because there are stretches of roads with barriers where cops cannot hide, and roads in the middle of nowhere where cops don't bother going and you can do whatever the hell you want without reprecussions. Speeding itself isn't dangerous, just look at Germany's Autobahn. It is one of the safest roads. It doesn't matter how fast you go if people suck are driving. You can be standing still, and have some drunk driver hit you and kill you, and you are going zero miles per hour. Speeding kills is merely a scapegoat for politicians to push the blame for their crappy roads and bad driver training. I've done 120mph on an empty midnight road where the limit is 55, where I am sure that there cannot be any cops. It was perfectly safe to do, nobody could have gotten hurt. A bigger factor is the state of the cars. Most people don't know how to maintain them, and so, those cars become dangerous at speed. However, if properly maintained with a well educated driver on a good road, any modern car can easily hold at least 100mph on the highway with less accidents than with whatever system we have now.
I've done around 120 on a freeway with another guy just cruising along at midnight before. It's safe when you know how to drive and the road is well maintained. That being said, I don't drive the average car, I have ceramic brake pads, good suspension, and a V8. I have a decent buffer zone. Everything you said is true. A car's maintenance is pertinent to a driver being able to speed safely.
In older cars there were speed limiter bypasses that were pretty cheap. Replacing the ECU worked too, but that was more expensive. If the demand was there, I'm sure people could still buy new cars and not be stuck with the limiter.
This is very comon in the moding scene, the first thing a lot of people do in order to gain more power is not adding a turbo or puting a different air filter, but modifying the ECU.
Audi, BMW, Mercedes and Porsche offers a cookie If you take their advanced driving class.
They allow you 15% higher top speed when they tinkered with the limiter
I also feel that cars have no speed limiters, or maximum speeds of over 100 mph, even for an average Honda Civic, cos in case of an emergency, drivers may have to drive really fast (ie. Injury, emergency)
How to fix the engine: Insulate a lamp from "check engine".
@@user-rx9ny4yo2e .... I think you mean the first thing they do is upgrade the airfilter to a ram filter or a Cai then an exhaust and downpipe, colder plugs and performance coils, Intercooler, ect ect. They do the supporting mods for a stage 1+ or stage 2 rather than sending their ecu in to get rid of the speed limiter...
There isn't a forum out there that says to get rid of the speed limiter before doing the supporting mods for a tune.
0:12 When ur on the AUTOBAHN
If they want to make driving safer all vehicles should come with a manual transmission. Ever since i switched to driving stick ive noticed i dont text or eat while driving. Also i give more space on the road because i distain having to come to a complete stop. Id rather be rolling so i dont have to go into 1st. Using both hands and both feet to drive has made me so much more aware of whats going on with other drivers because im gauging their speeds with mine which helps me know what i should be doing shifting wise if that makes sense
"Speed has never killed anyone, it's the sudden stops that get you" - Jeremy Clarkson
The fastest I've gone was 250km/h with no cars around on a smooth highway. This was during the initial COVID phase where barely anyone was driving. Even the performance of econoboxes are far above legal limits these days.
And still with no one else on the road, lights on, good visibility a cop could have fined you or worse...
@@tdgchan 250kmph is an instant loss of license, and definitley a dangerous driving charge at the least, the driver could face prison time if caught at that speed.
@@samcharles1166 laughs in German
@@tdgchan COVID cops were not pulling over a lot of people.
@@samcharles1166 not where I live. At worst you'll get a hefty ticket. Where I live there is no limit at which point speeding becomes a felony. It's only when it's combined with other traffic offenses. So I could go almost 300kmh down a country road, get pulled over, get a ticket, and be on my way.
There comes a point where the aerodynamics of the car and the added control surfaces do play a big part in safety. Cities are planned differently can change the type of traffic and the safe speeds based on the angle of banking topography and the road surface characteristics. Even temperature of the road surface due to direct exposure to sunlight or the light blinding the driver during day and night and the limited visual field of view can cause accidents.
There are times when going faster is either necessary or safer
The amount of times I've used my bike's speed to outrun someone who was running me down makes it worth it.
"And even up to speeds that ar definetly illegal on any road" 1:07
German Autobahn: allowe me to introduce myself
One of the big problems in the US is how easy it is to get a driver's license, you just have to be barely functional for them to hand you a license to pilot up to a 10,000 lb vehicle or one that's capable of 150mph.
Or 200 mph. There’s literally nothing stopping a person with a drivers permit from hopping a Hellcat. At least not legally.
As others pointed out, the bigger problem is their country is car dependent as any other form of transportation is considered second class.
Yup
Literally a 15 year old who passed the online drivers permit test and prolly looked up all the answers on quizlet can get behind the wheel of a car that has the ability to kill anyone in a second, it's scary
@@cinnamonnoob2977 It is scary, but unfortunately necessary because the US in its 'wisdom' decided that it would build the entire country to require a car to get around. We can't start damning people to homelessness and poverty by taking away their ability to even get a job, we need to build our cities properly with public transit and make walking/cycling a viable option. Also taking their license wouldn't do anything but become a revenue stream for the police ticketing them for driving without a license or fueling the slave labor market of US prisons if they get caught enough. People literally need to be able to drive a car in the US.
*A stretch of road going for thousands of miles with no speed limit*
he’s clearly never been to germany 😂
The reason a lot of cars speedometer goes to 160 fir example is because it "looks cool" but a lot of times if it's not a sports car the car wont go that fast because it's electronically limited to around 120mph in most cars.
We could also talk about how road designs have a great impact on accidents. We could also talk about driving culture has an impact on accident rates.
The "landstrasse" in Germany costs more lives than the Autobahn. Not sure what makes up which percentage of road network, but longer travels mean autobahn. The landstrasse is max100kmh, sometimes less. Turns out. Having 2 directions on one road with no divider is dangerous
good old long island with the
Indeed. Here in Colorado is a stretch of road called Gun Club, one way to and from, with no divider, going 55mph. I've seen at least 3, maybe more death signs. I can only wonder why.
We could, but it would be far more productive to talk about how people generally have far less respect for the damage potential of a motor vehicle than they should.
@@killer13324 that’s less of an issue than the people responding to a text or riding the left lane hold the flow of traffic back and inducing road rage.
The problem is, even with all the driver assistance devices in modern cars, the people causing crashes are usually just bad drivers with slow reaction times and distractions. Speed isn't what kills people, bad reaction time and not paying attention does.
Agreed, and some of the bad drivers shouldn’t be on the road at all because maybe they’re taking medicine and are elderly or have poor vision.
In canada nearly all cars have limiters haven't seen one without. It's not illegal to take one off but if you have it you cannot push past it, it will not let you go past 160kph normally
There are plenty of reasons why people don't like speed limiters, even if they aren't inclined to use the speed available.
There's the theoretical (basically the "just in case" and personal freedom arguments).
There's the practical (if you govern every vehicle to the same maximum speed, and it's reasonable - say 10-20 mph over the speed limit - it can cause traffic delays and "road rage" by inhibiting passing) (when passing on a two-lane road, I want to be around the vehicle I'm passing ASAP).
And there's the "sheer enjoyment"/my car is not an appliance/aspirational aspect. Even though I might never consider exceeding the speed limit by more than 15 km/h, I still like the fact that I could go faster. I love the engineering involved, and the idea that driving is a skill that can be improved. And there's the time-honoured tradition of car nuts gathering around an open hood discussing the technical aspects of a vehicle that make it amazing, often while others argue the opposite.
And that's the fundamental problem with this video - it was made by someone who neither understands nor appreciates cars or car culture. He just doesn't get it, same as I don't get rhythmic gymnastics (an old joke with my wife, who does). It's not an indictment of the athletes or sport that I, or anyone else doesn't. It's just a product of different tastes and ways that brains work.
But I think this could be a useful and educational video if it was made by someone who likes cars, and didn't simply swallow all the usual clichés and truisms.
I once pushed my 2004 Jeep Liberty just too see "how fast can this thing go?"
I hit 110 before it mechanically cut the power to the engine and slowed me back under 110, but it still had room to go.
I suggested to my brother to speed in my '05 KJ on a back road because it felt awesome. Of all times there was a sheriff when there's usually nobody. I had forgotten that there was an event going on in town.
@@Midala87 You are not entitled to break the law.
@@asmc1492 but it still happens every single day by every single driver
110 In a liberty? Going 90 in one of those feels like 130 😂
@@asmc1492 no one cares little kid
imagine the lost revenue for police if speeding wasnt possible
Bullshit. Those liars will find anything to extort the populace.
That is what thugs do
Oh they would still make a motza from people on their smartphones etc... theres always revenue to be made.
@@Fanta.... As they should.
I'm a motorcycle person. Motorcycles have basically been able to go go 200 mph since the late '80. They actually have started to figure out that the less powerful bikes are more popular these days.
Anything after about 160mph is just scary... Lol
The camshaft has a lot to do with it too. Valve lift and duration literally determines how well the engine breathes. So that sweet spot in the drive train is first dependent on the cam.
Highways are made for high speed. The BIGGEST problem in this country is people looking at their phones instead of the road.
And the lizard people
Well... if you are going 150 mph... if you blow a tire you are probably gonna die. And this is way more likely to happen when going this speed.
@@insertphrasehere15 I think 85mph is appropriate for highways, not 55.
You are both coming from a place of ignorance. Yes driver error is a major portion of accidents. Yes, all things being equal, 150 is more dangerous than 55. But, here is where you miss the mark:
_"Highways are made for high speed"_
High speed when compared to a horse? Sure.
But high speed when compared to the full spectrum of speeds available to the average modern automobile? No, not even close. I know, the slowest cars may only rarely push 100 and the fastest cars can go 250+, but the majority of cars on the highway are capable of 150+ mph. The Highways are built for tractor trailer speeds not car speeds. There are no banked curves, the exits can be far too frequent to safely get over after a sign announces the exit if traveling 120+mph, and the minimum speed is frequently 40mph allowing cars that have no business being in 80mph traffic to get on the highway. So when the 56mph car passes the 55mph car, you get a roadblock for cars traveling 80, and if the 56mph car is negligent or simply misjudged the distance and speed of the 80mph car, that is a 30mph collision traveling at around 70mph.
_"When you are traveling at 150 and blow a tire you are probably going to die..."_ no, that's not as probable as you are implying. It's dependent on many factors from seatbelts to driving skill to traction control. Not to mention tires....
_"... and this¹ is way more likely to happen at this speed²."_
Assuming 1 is "dying from a blowout" is more likely, and 2 is at this speed "compared to the current speed limit," this statement is redundant in assertion, at best.
Assuming that, for a brief moment, the author was following logic, 1 would be tire blowouts and 2 would be compared to lower speeds. OK well you do have to consider what kind of tires you use and the maintenance involved in them. If you have an under inflated tire with good tread, it's way more likely to pop than a properly inflated tire with low tread. And there are different grades of tires for going different speeds to handle the heat from flexing while rotating and grip the road more securely. So the likelihood of a blowout is mitigated by having better tires with the properties you need. Not to mention that there are alternatives available. Run Flat tires do as their name suggests, and that technology has been around for decades. Additionally there are tubeless hollow honeycomb tires that don't use air pressure at all, and won't blow out, just wear down. So as cars go faster, there are features to make them safer.
And safety is what this is all about. When did your state last raise the maximum speed in your state? How safe were the cars in that year compared to the safety of the cars in this year? I know New York set it's speed limits in 1973, and the majority of states were in 1995 when the government repealed legislation limiting speeds. Think about a cars safety 25+ years ago compared to what is available today. And cars from 1973, almost 50 years ago? Try to think of any you would consider safe. Seatbelts and headlights are the only things that are relevant today. I guess they were past using an anchor to slow down and used brakes and maybe wipers were required? But that's it. No safety systems. No airbags. No antilock breaks, no traction control, no steel belt radial tires, no crumple zones, and tons more I'm neglecting.
But this is far more than I wanted to say.
It is much harder and more dangerous to drive in the city than on the highway. At least because of intersections. Also, 15 units of speed above city speed limit is not the same as 15 units of speed above highway speed limit - your speed relative to the flow of cars is what matters
I drive 20mph over over on the freeway every day. In some places this is over 100 mph.
I have yet to have a close call going these speeds. The only place I’ve had close calls has been on roads where i was going the speed limit of 40 or less and parking lots.
This is because people think the slower you go the less attentive you need to be, so they play on their phones or become distracted in other ways.
Texting and driving is severely more dangerous than going 100mph
And I find it ironic that the people who complain about speeders are the same people who text and drive and refuse to use their turn signals.
yeah 15 and 20 mile per hour speed limits in the city make perfect sense because there's people walking, people biking, people trying not to hear your dumbass tires, and you don't want to interrupt that environment. going 200 miles per hour on the freeway is completely fine if it's outside of peak times and you see everything within 10 seconds of travel time
Short answer: Because they can hit them on german Autobahn. The difference is: The people here can actually drive because you arent literally gifted the drivers license like in the US but have to do a kind of apprenticeship for it. Also here in germany the people don’t drive big ughly death traps all around just for the sake of it. In addition in germany you need to get your car checked every two years by mechanics of a state institution called TÜV. They check if your car is safe to drive secure for another two years without the tech failing. Also if you want to change something on your car which impacts driving the TÜV has to allow it, assuring your car stays safe. All of this results in a much lower car accident death counter per head than in the US. Despite germany not having a speed limit on the autobahn. So I can continue to drive my BMW E39 with 230 km/h on the Autobahn.
In Texas every speed is legal unless its school zone, construction zone, or there are cops nearby😂
No. 'most' cars don't have lane assist, and other fancy driver aids, sorry.
Many new cars in Europe have lane assist as standard.
@@mdog2501
It amazes me, but my 2014 is one of the newer cars I see on the roads in one European capital.
@@niallkinsella2687 I wouldn't say a car from 2014 is new. The majority of new cars have some sort of 'fancy drivers aids' such as lane assist, automatic braking systems and high beam assist. Kia, Ford, VW etc .
@@mdog2501
I wouldn't say mine is new either. Not by a long shot. I'm just surprised by how new it is relative to a huge proportion of the other cars on the road.
*most new cars. Vast majority of cars on the road though don't have those features
Cheddar: Why doesn't the government require additional functionality in cars that no one asked for?
Also Cheddar: Why are cars so expensive today?
My Jaguar F Type has two features related to speed. You press a "limit" button and that will prevent you from going over that current speed regardless of how hard you push the pedal down. This is very useful in Utah where the limit in places is 80 MPH, and you can easily creep up to 90-100 MPH. The second feature allows you to set an alarm point if you exceed the posted speed limit (it can read the signs). You set your preference to alarm at the speed limit, or 5 or 10 MPH over. It doesn't work at all. I had Jaguar service check it twice and they swear it works. I made a video of it not working and they just repeat the same answer. I've driven the car at ***MPH on a private air strip. The tires are rated for 240MPH.
not on every autobahn the speed limit is unlimited. 130 kph for the most part, only some autobahns have sections where you can go unlimited
In my driving history(4 plus decades), I have been instructed several times by 911 dispatchers to exceed the posted speed limit on order to follow, maintain visual contact, or try to get license plate information from a suspected DWI, road-rager, or a vehicle involved in a hit and run accident, etc.
One partucular incident that stands out in my memory- the dispatcher was relaying information between myself and a responding state patrol officer who was still several miles behind.
The car in question was moving considerably faster than I was. The officer requested that I accelerate and try to keep up since it was in the very early morning hours and traffic was light. I informed them that I was driving a tractor-trailer(at the time, the truck speed limit on the Ohio Turnpike was 55).
The officer asked, "How fast does your truck go?"🤣
Long story short, I pushed it to over 100 to catch up, then maintained 85 to 90 about a half-mile back for 5 or 6 miles.
When the officer caught up, I was slowing down & following the vehicle into a service plaza.
I watched as the driver quickly failed a sobriety test, and was then cuffed & stuffed.
The officer took a quick verbal statement from me. Before thanking me and sending me on my way, he said, "That big truck going that fast sure was easy to see from a long ways off."
Lol. No you didn’t. If you got in an accident as a civilian playing cop with permission from a 911 dispatcher that would of been a huge lawsuit. Nice story though kid
why u snitching bro
@@jakegrames9001
Kid?🤔
I'm sure I've got years on you.
Back then, people didn't immediately go running to their mouthpiece if something bad went down while someone was trying to help.
@@sklizzy3125
'Cuz I would hope that a driver who wasn't even from anywhere near my hometown would do the same- 'cuz MY family might be a couple of miles ahead- or ANYBODY'S family for that matter- including yours.
several times tho you either got great luck or very bad luck.
1:55 Driven that highway a few times. Still feels totally surreal passing a state trooper while going 90 mph and not getting pulled over.
that's nearly every highway in texas. our police really don't care to pull people over for speeding in my experience. i have past a police officers going over 100 and they more or less don't really give a damn.
@@dillzilla4454 Depends on the area I guess. There are definitely plenty of towns that are speed traps. Estelline is one of the most famous speed traps in the country.
@jimmy also depends on whether you are white or not. data suggests that whites are less likely to be pulled over
@@jonathangrey1707 I am a dog (see profile picture)
@@jonathangrey1707 dawg how does a cop know what color you are when you fly past him at 100 mph
Death/speeding tickets?
My 09 Volvo S80 T6 awd can do 156mph maybe more if my exit wasn't coming up and had to let off. Also why would they give me a 3.0l I6 with a Turbo and Supercharger?
in germany some cars are limited at 250kph/155mph now