LKL - Christian Singer Jennifer Knapp Comes Out - Pt. 2/4
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- čas přidán 23. 04. 2010
- Can you be both gay and a Christian? When Jennifer Knapp walked away from her successful Christian music career in 2003, fans scratched their heads and wondered why? Now, the popular songstress is ready to talk about her comeback and her coming out! Its been a polarizing topic of discussion within the Christian music industry and by fans. Pastor Bob Botsford says his heart breaks for her. Find out what happens when Knapp and Pastor Botsford sit down face-to-face. Ted Haggard also joins the discussion.
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Jennifer, you are great I love you for who you are. I look forward to seeing you at the concert!
I like this girl. She is very articulate and seems to know what she's talking about. Great singer too, I especially like her latest record, Set Me Free. The world needs more people like her.
WE loved her back in her days. She's cool. I took all the kids to see her! I knew back then, but never said anything. IM so glad she's back. If you already love someone's walk and their music, then just because there gay, you stop loving them? Rock on Jennifer and stay strong!
I love her, regardless, of her sexual orientation.
Her music and lyrics are Spirit filled.
Her choice or nature is between her and God.
I was kicked out of my church, because of what the bible said "cast the wicked man out from among you, God will judge those on the outside, are we not to judge on the inside. So it was just me and God. My faith has grown so much and now I am what "they" call "universalistic". I love Jesus and he and God love me now, even more than ever and has shown me so much more now! I finally understand what unconditional love and unearned mercy and grace are!
I love Jennifer’s response to this pastor. She is so graceful and the way she asks questions to cause him to think- that’s what Jesus did to the Pharisees. 💕
Exactly. Too bad, this Pastor, and most other American pastors, forgot these very simple, scriptures;
2 Corinthians 5:19 that God was reconciling the WORLD to Himself in Christ, NOT counting men’s sins against them.
Hebrews 9:26b But he has appeared once FOR ALL at the culmination of the ages to DO AWAY WITH SIN by the sacrifice of himself.
Hebrews 10:10 And by that, we HAVE BEEN made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once FOR ALL.
1 Timothy 4:9-11 This is a trustworthy saying that deserves FULL acceptance. That is why we labor and strive, because we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of ALL men, AND especially of those who believe.
Luke 19:10 For the son of man came to seek and save that which was lost. (Did Jesus fail at what he came to do?)
John 1:29 Behold the Lamb of God which TAKES AWAY the sins of THE WORLD. (When John the Baptist said this, was he confused?) 🤔
Isaiah 53:6 We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to our own way; and the Lord has laid ON HIM the iniquity of us all.
Romans 3:24 ALL are justified FREELY by His GRACE (Unmerited favor, there’s nothing you could do for it.) through the redemption that came BY Christ Jesus. (Not ourselves)
This pastor did a great job.
Good for you Jennifer... the true fans and none judgmental fans love you and always will!
Never apologize for who you are. God see us more perfectly than we can even fathom.
I'm so proud of Jennifer for facing the Christian critics so bravely.
It is great to see the interview finally. Since, I am not in the US. I have supported those Christians gifted with same sex attraction. Jennifer Knapp is brave and good on you.
You are deceived. The result of such an experience can only be this: finally arriving at the certainty of our Heavenly Father's (and Christ's) love for us. This can only happen IF and when we manage to uncover the lies and deceptions, since doing so would bring us to the proper sense of shame for a sin committed--the realization of having done wrong will then bring us to our knees in sorrow and repentance, where we can finally feel the overwhelming and immense Grace of our Heavenly Father (and finally feel how much He loves us).
Wow! A pastor who speaks so much judgment. We are not called to judge, but to love. If you knew Jennifer’s music you would see how much she loves the lord.
"That's a great question" "That's why we asked it." lol
This was painful to watch😢😢😢I hate to see her having to be judged like that.
@Charlie H this one reason left my relationship with Jesus so many bigotry and doing same thing as Pharisees did to Jesus and prejudice against her saying using same sayings as homophobic pastor “ Is a Lifetime her chose to be a homosexual and have same sex relationship “ way to go Pastor you wonder why people don’t give their life to Jesus.
@@hatedbymanylovedbyfew3567 your post is sad to me. Its sad that you believe that judgemental , uncaring people completely represent a loving God. Jesus loves. period. And there are Jesus loving people who love and support Jennifer. You are making the same judgments those people are. One thing I love about Jennifer is her transparency in her struggles of life. We all have sins, we all have struggles. We have all had times we thought we were not enough. That is our common ground. But the great thing is God loves broken people, and is willing to meet us where we are. I choose to follow a God of love, and people who walk in love. Jennifer is a beautiful human, I applaud her strength for standing strong in her faith, despite all that have come against her.
@@RlRdHd I ain’t God fault I was a teenager grew up listening to Jennifer Knapp sure blame him for those judging people like so called pastor he clearly said to her she was perverted and not only one got judged and spiritual abused from was told a former pastor had said homophobic things . I’m back with God not because of we leaving in the End Times Pre COVID I loss my Mom in March 2019 God / Adonai speak through some Christian Songs My Brother playing radio station I grew up with as teen heard Jennifer Knapp, Jars Of Clay ,Sonic Flood and Switchfoot to name few. that day playing Oceans By Hillsong and Who You Say I Am as well my Mom was in ICU and Coma I felt this Love ounce again was teenager it was Holy Spirit consolidating me when I was depressed for my Mom dying those songs played I felt a inner peace ounce again Holy Spirit again again my Faith in Him and walk my path for Him. I’m grown more spiritually since than I’m not letting anyone including this Pastor stray my Path with Yeshua . I was teen left Adonai when your parents didn’t understand my relationship with Him and growing in toxic and abusive parent and home where your Mom and yourself were abused I didn’t see any peace and love it felt Adonai left me I was alone had toxic people who said they were my friends I grew up thinking God doesn’t care and no way out of this abuse and neglect my Mom suffered as well she died pre mature death at age 55 don’t feel sad my comment it was my destiny had toxic and abusive childhood and teen years I pray to Him I will reunite with my Fiancé in 2015 and my Mom in 2019 again with Him my Savior and Messiah Yeshua when He takes me or He comes back His Second Coming.
@@RlRdHd So JEsus Loves right Sooo loving And graceful Yet in the NEW testament HE SAYS TO ALL all those who are Liars Homosexual behaviour Murderers Thieves Will share there part in the lake of fire So god Sooooo loving Yet they are going There according to scripture learn Ya stuff before ya speak god doesn’t like it PERIOD regaurdless if he Loves u or NOT regardless if u repent or NOT u doing it over and over and over all u show to god is ur a lying phony
i beleive being a christian, having that faith is personal...u know GOD on a personal level, n only he knows your heart. its between her n GOD in the end! *i for one still like her music!*
Jennifer, Thank you.
Jennifer........God loves you! its not our right to judge you no matter what church or faith we belong too....Im not gay, but I relate to your songs. I have my own issues....Im so glad that God put your songs into my path. Thanks.
I kept waiting for pastor Bob to say 1 Corinthians 6 verse 9 gods word never changes it's the same yesterday today and forever
I have struggled with the same thing all my life. I have never been with a man and I am 38. There was no "choice" in how I've felt all of my life, my attraction to women, the choice was wether to follow it or not. It is and has been as natural to me as heterosexuality is to heterosexuals. I have been involved deeply in the church for at least 7-8 years. I love God. We are always "in the works", it doesn't mean he's done with me or anyone else. He may choose to reveal it, He may not.
oh yeah, we all remember how we all "factually" fell in love. crazy man pastor,GMAB !!
I think this is something we don't have the right to judge. It does say in the Bible that man should not lay with man. As a Christian we should love Jennifer, continue to pray for her and her relationship with the Lord. Let the Lord do the work in her life, and let us not hurt her with our own judgement. Christ loves her and forgives her, we should do the same. A sin is a sin.
Everyone sins. There is no "worst" sin. Sin is sin before God. What sets this kind of thing apart is that it denies sin and makes God out to be a liar. We all need Christ to save us from our sin. But we enter into darkness when we refuse to admit that sin is sin. And that's what's happening with all of this. We are being told that we can't call it sin anymore. Nothing like this has ever happened before in our country. I John -- If you say that you are without sin, you lie ad do not have the truth" The issue is DECEPTION. Not sin per se. Deception keeps us from confession of sin, which is the first step to being cleansed of it. We are in no place to judge Jennifer Knapp or any other sinner. We are all sinners. What we must do as the church is hold to the truth and not be swayed by deception. And pray for those who have been deceived.
Amen Josh.
Josh C I completely agree with you. We are in no position to judge. For all have fallen short of the glory lf God. All---it does not matter if you are gay or straight. Not one sin is greater than the other. It is through the Holy Spirit that leads us to repentance.
God bless you Jennifer!!
Yes, THANK YOU!! =)
As a lesbian and a Christian I honestly thank God for Jennifer Knapp: for the courage He gave her to be herself and not be afraid to be who she is. Christians who judge like this idiot have no IDEA what the grace of God is. They have no idea what it's like to be judged by almost everyone they know. Anything this man says is based purely on ignorance and thus his words are empty and meaningless. You cannot claim to care about someone and say they are unnatural or perverted.
keep your head up jennifer, you're not the only one.
I loved her albums lay it down and the way I am
Thank you for you kind words, I do have a bf who I love very much and we have been together for almost 3 yrs, life is good despite the hateful faithful
This isn't an issue of whether she's loved anymore, its an issue of what the Bible actually says. Especially now in 2020, people think that if you are speaking the Biblical truth, than you hate gays. This is not true. I'm sorry if people did not speak the truth to you in love. But the truth is the truth.
@JaboBabo Again, great analysis!
It is not the pastor, who condemns homosexuality; it is God, who condemns it. God's Word is the standard. God is the judge. The pastor is merely presenting God's view. God did not create us to be happy or fulfill our dreams. God created us to glorify him. If Jennifer is sent to hell, it won't be for her sexual orientation, People go to heaven or hell based on their relationship with Jesus Christ. He demands repentance and obedience. That doesn't mean perfection. What it means is taking up our cross daily and following him.
Good for her! I haven't listened to my old CCM cds in ages but I think I'm going to go listen to hers right now. I'm a little late on this news.. but she's amazing, respect.
It’s always a choice to do something.
"I wanna base decisions on facts"
I literally lol'd when I heard that one.
There’s not just the Bible, there’s the church’s tradition and the tradition has been consistent. Biology matters!
Love that Christians can pass off judgement as "caring" and "praying".
He did say BY THERE fruits ye shall know em Christans Passing JUDGEMENT z called FOLLOW his LAWS aid ur gunna call yourself a CHRISTIAN thats like saying ur a MUSLIM committing HARAM and they say Don’t JUDGE why not yeah GOD will judge but gunna be worse for them who wanna CLAIM HIS Word and then SIN right in front of everyone 😂😂😂
I'm really glad I'm only responsible to God for myself not anyone else !!
@micahsheppa She def deserves our support! When good role models like her come out it shows our gay youth who are struggling with all the hateful messages from people like pastor Bob that they can be who they are and be happy!!! I have to say Larry is awesome in this interview!!!
This certainly makes you question why you believe what you believe.
I just love how people like to act like they're so perfect and do no wrong and want to pass judgment on everyone else. It's idiocy.
It's good that she came out. Not being true to one's self is, according to the bible, is the unpardonable sin.
Religion is a lifestyle. Religion is a CHOICE. It's a practice one DECIDES to follow.
Jennifer seems to be very confident.
Christians always say "I love the sinner but hate the sin." Why dont christians follow what Jesus taught? Love the sinner and hate your own sins and when you have cleaned all the sin out of your own life you can go after the sins in your brother´s life.
amen!
jennifer knapp is my new hero
Also, we can only pray for someone for so long and then its up to the individual to heed the call and to return to Christ. God is love, yes, but He is more than that. Throughout the scriptures we see a God who abhors sin and we see how he deals with it and we should have true fear of Him. Fear not of Him, but fear of what He can do to us if we remain in our sins - that should be enough for us to turn and run away from those sins and run towards Him and into His loving arms.
Also, in regards to those out there that say, well, its whats in my heart that is important. If I have this or that in my heart, it will be ok. But, I think we have forgotten what the Bible says about the heart. Lets read this verse, shall we. Jeremiah 17:9 states, from the New Living Translation
"The human heart is the most deceitful of all things, and desperately wicked. Who really knows how bad it is?"
So, if we as Christians or anyone just always follows what we feel in our hearts, then by looking at the above scripture, we are being deceived for our heart is the most deceitful of all things it says in Jeremiah. Only the One who has created us knows how bad it is, knows all of us, each and every one of us and all He wants for us is to return to Him, to come to Him, to lay down our pride, our feelings, our hate, our love, etc and just trust fully and completely in Him and follow all His words and in the end of it all, we will reap the reward of being faithful
Also, I think we are seeing a new form of Christianity emerging and it seems to follow feelings, to say just look within your heart. To me, its just New Age trash wrapped up in a nice little package but its damaging to our souls. Christ is the ONLY ONE that can save us. Nothing else on earth will be able to set us free from ourselves, none other than Jesus, the Christ, Himself!
One last thing, in regards to the whole judging one another - YES, we are to judge, but we are to judge one another according to righteousness and righteously judge a fellow brother or sister. If you see someone that once had a full life of Christ but now is in sin, would you not try to help them come back to their one true love - Jesus - or would you let them wallow in their sin and to live in disregard for His truth? In John 7:24 this is what it says in regards to judging one another
New American Standard Bible
"Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment."
So many out there say and scream out - Only God can judge me, well, that is not full true. Why, yes, God will judge each and every one of us, we are also called to judge not according to appearances, but with righteous judgement of one another. All this Pastor is trying to do is throw out a rope, a lifeline, throw it out to Jennifer because he sees her drowning in sin, despite the fact she doesnt see it that way, that is all he is trying to do, to help her come back to her first love and that love was Jesus Christ
I do know that many will not agree with what I have stated and will say that I am spewing hate, spewing lies, etc but nothing I have said is hateful. In fact, all I have said is in love and is the truth. Those in darkness will NOT come to or into the Light, who is Christ, for fear that their deeds, their sins, the darkness that they are in, for fear that it might be exposed and some people love the darkness, they thrive in it and once the light of Christ is shined upon them, they become angry and lash out because everyone can see their sins.
We all are sinful. We all struggle with different sins - addiction, drugs, pornography, same sex relationships, pride, etc etc etc. But, despite what we may think or not even know, Christ is always there to call us back, His arms are always open to welcome us back home to Him. Once we do pass from this life, there are no more chances, no do-overs, so instead of standing on the so called hope of nothing existing after this life, what are people so afraid of by coming to Christ so that He can change them and make them free of their sins, so that one day, when they do pass, they can return to Him and live with Him for eternity. Despite what you may have heard or have not heard about Christ, He will always be there waiting for you to say yes to Him, to come to Him just as you are and He will be the one to clean you up, put a new heart into you, and give you new life and that life is Him
Amen Brother! Thanks for this post! Well-written.
You have such love in your heart that makes it difficult for many believers to reach out to those lost in sin and even homosexuality. Thank you especially for giving quoted scripture from the Word. Its through your personal faith and relationship with God that leads to true repentence.
you're saying that these folks are not born this way?
I have a girlfriend I love her very much. And I love God as well! And He LOVES me!
He loves Jeffrey Dahmer too.
@Krimson Edit
I'm an atheist now. 12 years ago I was a dumb teenager. Knowing what I know now. If there is a God I'm sure he does love ol Jeffrey.
@Lauralynne151 I can completely relate..it's difficult to know what to believe..i dont have a clue what i think on this topic anymore. But then maybe thats why its all about faith and trust. Hopefully we'll find enlightenment through the holy spirit eventually.
LET EVERYONE WORK OUT THEIR OWN SALVATION WITH FEAR AND TREMBLING. WE ARE NOT GOD. ONLY GOD CAN SEE THE HEART AND HE WILL JUDGE RIGHTEOUSLY THE HEARTS OF ALL OF US...love. the only answer is love.
4:01 it appears Botsford has still not actually looked at Knapp...but she looked at him...
@nubbs Well said!!!
at 1:10 does she say "look towards the gods?" just checking, I couldnt understand her.
1 John 2:15 ESV / 7 helpful votes
Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
So sing! How great is our god!!!!
"This of course, is people speaking for the lord." OMG! I love that! Everybody can put words in God's mouth! Hilarious! Thumbs Up!
@innocencetube VERY well said!
This verse has been translated in as many different ways as there are different versions of the Bible, so we have to look at the original Greek to see what Paul was really saying. According to Thayer's Greek Lexicon, the word translated here as "male prostitute" is the Greek word malakos which literally means "soft to the touch." However, it was used metaphorically in a negative way to refer to a catamite (a boy kept for sexual relations with a man) or to a male prostitute in general.
@EnChristosEime4life AND yes she does have a very valid point. Look at the King James Version, which is supposed to be the 1st version since the Greek and Hebrew text. The word "homosexual" or "homosexuality" is not used, it says effeminate. Look up that word in the Greek and Hebrew concordance, it doesn't mean "homosexual". Look for the word "homosexual" or "homosexuality" in the Greek and Hebrew concordance, it is not in there. So yes, good point Jennifer!
....she has never answered ...what God says...
Also, in regards to these 2 words Jennifer was speaking of - Arsenokoitai and Malakos. If you take these words and look them up in any Christian commentary of the Bible, etc, you will find what they mean. Take them to a commentary on the greek in regards to the Bible and you will see what they mean - biblehub.com/greek/3120.htm and biblehub.com/greek/733.htm Despite the fact that the meanings of these words are very plain so that people can see, there are some out there that still do not accept them because they, as the scriptures say, love their sins and would not want to come into the light so that there deeds can be seen, so they remain in the darkness.
There are many, many articles that deal with these words and of course, there are going to be those that say these words have been mistranslated and they dont mean a certain thing, etc, but, those sites out there and articles out there remove themselves from truth because they long to be in darkness lest their deeds be exposed by Christ's light. Sad state of affairs when people just choose to live in darkness and do not choose Christ, but that is our free-will. We can choose to accept Him and choose to deny Him and in the end, our fate will be revealed and shown to us if we choose to deny Him. But, if we choose to accept Him and stay true to Him, repent, turn away from sin, then in the end, our fate will be glorious because we will finally know and see Him - the One who saved all of us, the One who has set us free - Jesus, the Christ, the Messiah, the Chosen One, Saviour and Lord of all
God Bless and In HIm
Eric
As a christian there are things expected of you, it's silly of people to come up here and say it's "wrong" to say this or that. You aren't forced to be christian so don't force christianity to be what it isn't. Everything, every faith, every walk of faith has a way it is defined and our definition comes from the scriptures. Judge a thing by the codes that define it and not your own moral relativistic views. If you say morality is relative then on what basis am I wrong if I say this doesn't conform to my own code?
@innocencetube here here! LOL, but I don't know if I would use the word douchebag, in regard to a minister...just to be on the safe side. :-) But I agree that we all have differences in beliefs and faiths...her lifestyle choice or sexuality as others may call it, is between her and God. To judge her would bring certain judgement for ourselves. I am not willing or able to put myself on that pedestal. God bless her and keep her. My opinion on her lifestyle is irrelevant in regards to faith.
I love her. God loves her but we are all sinners and everyone needs to repent over many many sins.
If you live by the Biblical Law and use it as a standard to make others unworthy, then you too will also judged by the Biblical Law. If you live by Grace, then you will also be shown Grace. We are called to live by Grace.
So I have a question…people who have accepted Christ as their lord and saviour, and asked Jesus to reign over their lives, but are attracted to people of the same gender is sinful and abominable, and in danger of going to hell, because it’s a unrepenting, premeditated sinful lifestyle? So if you try to suppress those feelings to try and live a “true” and purer heterosexual lifestyle. Aren’t you living a lie, if you aren’t attracted to the opposite sex? Living a life with someone, having a child with them just to keep to a “normal”, pure standard, and accepting lifestyle seems wrong. It’s a controversial and contradictory slippery slope. I can see how many people who are lgbtq who genuinely love God, want to live truthfully an have a relationship with him, but yet feel denied and are rejected by many church organizations/families/denominations, look to end their own lives as a solution.
I think the scripture says world sinners, but if we continue to send he will turn away from us so we’re all sinners. We all do the same things but when you continue to do it, he will turn away.
@nubbs sooooo true an people just dont get that, i tried to argue this point the other day but i dont have ur way with words so messed it up next time i will defo use wot u said haha x
You say you are you who you are but as a Christian your suppose to deny yourself and pick up the cross and follow Jesus. I understand denying yourself. You need the Holy Spirit to give you the power to overcome sin.
Christian singers are ministers of the faith, so how can you live in contrary to what it preaches?
What about Micheal English? Wasn't he judged?
I notice when people start to talk about what God says in his word I also hear the other side with the approach of now your judging. why? It doesn't make any sense to me lol
At least she has respect for other peoples words.
It seems to me that this young woman was admired and respected in her Christian community. Now when she came out and was honest about who she is, all of the sudden , she's a bad person. She's still the same person, she's just gay. What changed? She didn't change. Your opinion of her changed .
"For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that. I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, it is good for them if they abide even as I. But if they cannot contain [remain sexually pure and virtuous], let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn [Gk: puroo-'inflamed with lust']" (I Cor. 7:7-9).
@innocencetube Yes, I agree
I sing scripture if youd like to hear?
"...Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God." (NIV, 1st Corinthians 6:9-11)
This is why I hate the Christian music industry. The fans are okay with you, as long as you live according to their traditional church beliefs. If you deviate from that in any way, expect to lose half your fanbase overnight. It's the same thing that happened to Amy Grant, and so many others. For any music artist looking to go professional, here is a little tip: KEEP IT SECULAR.
Not related but It’s so funny because she looks just like my childhood friend from church, who is now married to her straight husband with like 5 kids ha
HAHAHA - gustjorodedheo, i have to agree.
God calls us to marriage, to the complementarity of the sexes.
There are over 1 million verses in the bible, only 6 talk about sexuality. So why is sexuality always the sticking point for most Christians?
Bob has a nice haircut.
It's really sad that this religion spends most of its time making people feel awful just for who they are.
"But hes omnipotent right? So he also created homosexuality?"
"*look of oh crap!* umm, no.. I, I, don't think he did."
"He didn't? He did everything but that?"
I lol'd
Why would God create female and male genitals if he wanted us to have anal sex??? Why are we assuming that God in all his Glory and being who He is would botch that???? and stop creation by having same sex relations....What if man decided that he still believes in Christ and it is his right to have sex with animals????? wouldn't that considered to be sin? but man should still fight for that right tho and then we can say God created him that way?
Then why would God create the prostate of men where it is??? You know that's like the G-spot of men and you know where it is?? "The prostate is a walnut-sized gland which you can feel through the wall of the rectum about five centimeters inside. Stimulating the prostate can give a man truly amazing orgasms."
I guess your logic is as flawless as you!
Are you trying to imply that because of where the so called gspot is ....that is proof that nothing is wrong with two men having sex? Can't a woman stimulate a man's so called gspot? I am not hating on anyone just merely trying to state the obvious that God made woman FROM man and FOR man. If every one decided that they love the same sex..that would b the end of creation and if they decided they would facilitate each others partners just to procreate...then this would be an even more messed up world. God is a God of order.
Did he really just say "Adam and Steve"? Really!?
@Amalia dela rosa Mathew 7:1. Only God can be judge who has bigger sins
Christ doesn’t make people born gay if it’s so wrong he’s a loving god the Bible has been manipulated by man love is love
She asks why is she in that seat not him. well your saying its ok to sin
sometimes i'm ashamed by fellow christian brothers and sisters for being so judgmental. love is universal, and our Heavenly Father, our God, our Savior, our Creator, and his son Jesus Christ loves us all. To use and impose on others of self interpretation of God's words is just so wrong. i'm not saying who is right or wrong, but clearly from this video, i sense alot of personal judgement from the Pastor and he seems somewhat concerned about what others might think of him when he attended Jennifer's concert back then. he has so much hatred for homosexuality that can be clearly seen and felt from this interview, and i believe that as God's child, we are not to be filled with so much hatred for thy neighbour or using God's words to point at others and we should love them as they are. Remember John 15:12 'My command is this: Love each other as I loved you.' John 15:17 'This is my command: Love each other' .... just my two cents worth
yes love others as Is have loved you...
Sometimes love doesn't come in a pretty pink bow of acceptance and toleration of sin and oh yeah do what you want... Jesus did forgive and then said son no more...We are called to not judge the world... but Jennifer Knapp is a believer who has chosen to live a lifestyle of sin, so would it be loving to just sit back and say ok do what you want to do, knowing the consequences of eternal torment and separation from God? Or is it loving to say Hey, you're going the wrong way and I don't want you to endure the consequences.
+Athelia Echeverria Amen to that. too much compromising going on now. God is separating the sheep from the goats. its obvious. with Russia in Syria, they are closer than ever to invade Israel with the other Arab nations just like it says in Ezekial 38-39. Yes, Christ is coming soon. please, people, give your lives to Jesus.
@SuchIsLifeVideos That's pretty much the same as "We love you, but hate your sin!' That equals "I hate your sin, and you, but I'm so great, I'll love you anyway." lolz.!
@hooponoponogirlz and what said is i was too. last year to be exact, me a a girl i was seeing at the church we both were going to made a mistake and we had sex, more than once. the pastor, the associate pastor, and the entire church staff made us break up and told me to leave and never come back. for crying out loud, what has gotten into the church these days. its like they go after the "big sin" but their little sin means nothing. God help today's churches.
Interesting way to show you care about someone and can't even look at her.
Very sad. I've always enjoyed her music. But, it is sad that she is basically now condoning sin. The fact she seems to be turning her back on the way of the Eternal God. It's basically like saying Lord I don't love you enough to let you have all of me. The Bible calls us to 'sacrifice' ourselves daily as a sign of our love for Him, and I feel a lot of gay people seem to think that they get more of a 'pass' or 'pardon' from this and for their sin than everyone else. We all want to follow the desires of our flesh but that doesn't make it right and fitting before God. No, i don't think it means she is not saved but she's choosing her master, and it isn't God's way. What she seems to be missing is the premise of repentance. People can keep living how they want, with no fear of God now, but if the signs of the times aren't enough to convince that what the Word says is true, then your just foolish, and you will fall victim to 'falling away' as the Bible says many people would in these last days. Read your Word, Know your stuff and watch the times. That prophecy is obviously coming true.
You sin too. We all sin differently. It's not her fault she was born gay.
I never said that i don't sin. We're all sinners. And i'm nothing more than a sinner saved by grace and so is she. However, i firmly believe that being gay is not a state of being but a choice. I don't buy the hype that people are born gay. If she was born gay then your also saying we can confidently assume people are natural born thieves, murders, idolators, terrorists and so forth??? Like any sin, this is one that needs to be brought under submission to God too. People are just not committed to Him and want to find anything to validate their behavior and
make excuse for it.
Um she was BORN that way? It's backed up by science?
The word translated here as "homosexual offender" is the Greek word arsenokoites which means a sodomite, a person who engages in any kind of unnatural sex, but especially homosexual intercourse. Some believe this use of arsenokoites referred specifically to the men who kept catamites, but that is not certain.
"i don't think that it's wise for any of us to base our decisions on feelings"
lol oh yea... that makes sense...? ...wait... what?
I never comment on anything that isn't funny, but: saying you can't base descisions on feelings? That's ignoring the way we were created to be, first of all.
Second? It was okay for pastor guy to make a descision about who to love based on his natural instincts, & not Jennifer? Come on, really? I'm a Christian, & I don't know where I stand on homosexuality. If it's a sin, who are we to cast stones? Did you die for my sin? No? Okay. So why do you feel you have a right to an opinion about it?
@EnChristosEime4life Actually she has an excellent point. Do your research. Words were changed in translation.
Too bad, this Pastor, and most other American pastors, forgot these very simple, scriptures;
2 Corinthians 5:19 that God was reconciling the WORLD to Himself in Christ, NOT counting men’s sins against them.
Hebrews 9:26b But he has appeared once FOR ALL at the culmination of the ages to DO AWAY WITH SIN by the sacrifice of himself.
Hebrews 10:10 And by that, we HAVE BEEN made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once FOR ALL.
1 Timothy 4:9-11 This is a trustworthy saying that deserves FULL acceptance. That is why we labor and strive, because we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of ALL men, AND especially of those who believe.
Luke 19:10 For the son of man came to seek and save that which was lost. (Did Jesus fail at what he came to do?)
John 1:29 Behold the Lamb of God which TAKES AWAY the sins of THE WORLD. (When John the Baptist said this, was he confused?) 🤔
Isaiah 53:6 We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to our own way; and the Lord has laid ON HIM the iniquity of us all.
Romans 3:24 ALL are justified FREELY by His GRACE (Unmerited favor, there’s nothing you could do for it.) through the redemption that came BY Christ Jesus. (Not ourselves)
Jesus loves homosexuals too. Christians have no place to judge anyone. Being Christian does not make you any better than any one else, because inevitably you will keep sinning.
The only difference is the hope you have.