Did This New Magic: The Gathering Card Just Tear A Format Asunder?
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It's crazy that some random orc archers are better than any version of Legolas in the set.
Orcish Bowmasters are at 30€ a piece while all 3 Legolas are going for ~12€ total
So disappointing, I was hoping on making a deck around Legolas but doesn’t seem feasible
I think it makes sense. WotC don’t want any recognizable LotR characters to become staple cards. Orcish bowmaster could be LotR or could easily be reprinted in the future. Feels weird within the set, but makes sense in the larger context.
@@thrawncaedusl717 damnit this makes sense
Am I misunderstanding the text or wouldn't Orcish Bowmasters only work against something like sylvan library? Drawing cards from an instant on someone elses turn or even your own main phase is not a draw step right? The wording seems confusing like it may not apply to cards drawn outside their draw steps.
Boromir sacrificing himself so your other cards can escape unharmed is excellent flavor!
@@nicks4802 You summon it with your Delighted Halfling :P
I bet his flesh also had great flavor... they've had nothing but maggoty bread for three stinking days now!
Reprieve also gets around Cavern of Souls which seems great.
It's also generically named, so they can easily reprint it wthout the LotR flavor in the future.
So most of the decks I like.
Great.
Guess it's time to give Pioneer a try
@@lancelotto475 They are coming for pioneer too. We need a fan run 60 card format that they cannot just print cards into.
And Delightful Halfling
I dont understand Magic that well but how does it actually work? Since it doesn't say that it counters the spell wouldn't the spell still go off and then return to their hand? I'd assume it would have to say "Counter" for it to actually stop the spell going off.
I feel like orc bowmasters are definitely better than boromir, and possibly also better than reprieve, especially since literally every deck runs card draw, and the card's floor if it hits the battlefield is two bodies and a ping at instant speed for two mana.
Orc Bowmasters is going to go the way of Dreadhorde Arconist when it was first revealed people thought it was going to be amazing in Modern but it did very little in Modern. Where the card was broken and where orc bowmasters is going to be broken is in Legacy and that is because of one reason. Blue cantrips reign supreme in Legacy. Brainstorm and ponder are everywhere in legacy so Dreadhorde Arcanist got banned because of it and Orc Bowmasters will be amazing. Besides Izzet Murktide there just aren't enough card draw decks in the format for bowmasters to feed on. One other reason bowmasters won't break the format is because creature removal is so bountiful in Modern.
bowmasters just looks too much like an EDH card
Too soon ...
I think the card will be better in Legacy than in Modern. For a Modern Top 5 of this set, I would have actually included Flame of Anor instead of the orcs, even though they are definitely one of the bes cards of the set overall.
Based off the books orc bow masters are definitely better then boromir
It’s notable that Stern scolding also counters grief, solitude, yawgmoth, seasoned pyro, and delighted halfling, so it might be sideboard playable
also pure steel, every dork in yawgmoth,tarmagoyf,dauthi voidwalker,almost all of merfolk kavu emry lurker of the loch, thassas oracle, brazen borrower's stone forge mystic, and most of humans
That rosie scurry combo is kinda wild
Wild but I’m fairly certain it causes a draw since it’s automatic right ? The player can’t say I’m done resolving this interaction right ?
@@eric4946 scurry oak is a may ability, so you can stop at any time.
@@eric4946 At any point you can put Rosie’s +1/+1 counter on one of the squirrels instead. The combo only continues as long as the Scurry Oak gets the counter.
@@BuffaloEdward Oak is a “may” ability, so that part doesn’t even matter.
@@BuffaloEdward ahhhhhh makes sense
The original two Modern Horizons sets were based on Time Spiral and Future Sight, according to the designers. Those were the first and third sets of a block also containing Planar Chaos, a set featuring cards from an alternate multiverse. Therefore Modern Horizons 3 would be a set focused around a universe different from the rest of Magic’s universe… I think LOTR fits.
Reprieve is so underrated it's ridiculous. It goes around dovins veto and other uncounterable spells, unlike remand. Its a great way to save your own spells on the stack, and you draw. Amazing.
If your opponent doesn't have much board presence and they tap out to cast the spell you Reprieve, it's basically a white Time Walk. Pair it with Discontinuity to really frustrate your opponents.
Except there’s not many uncounterable spells being played. And remand sees basically 0 play now
Reprieve is going in my boros burn because it's so good to be worth running there
While remand isn't good enough in blue anymore many white decks that splash blue for counters could cut the splash for consistency particularly if that splash is for the side board. Give my Boros deck one more turn to close out the game is often all I will ever need but the inconsistency of adding blue for counter magic out of the board has lost me games before too. Reprieve is by far the best white counter ever printed.
@@peewee0224 You have to understand that blue has much more competition for the "counter target spell" slot. White has Mana Tithe and Lapse of Certainty. It being *better* than Remand is just a bonus considering how little competition there is for that effect in white.
I'm actually a bit surprised that Forge Anew was not mentioned here. It will probably only be a 2 or 3 of in Hammer Time but it does a lot that the deck likes.
- Brings back an equipment from the graveyard
- Allows a free equip per turn
- You can equip at instant speed during your turn (ie combat)
It adds some more resiliency and redundancy to the deck and gives the deck a lot of reach by being able to instant speed put hammer on an unblocked threat as you swing in.
Excited to see TCC's opinion on pauper-legal cards from this set
I don't play Modern, but Rosie is an uncommon legendary creature, meaning she can be your commander in both edh and pdh, and would slot well into any token deck.
I hope you do one for pauper! Birthday escape seems like it will slot into the mono blue agro shell. And Wizards rockets seems like it goes in every 2+ color deck, but will shine in Kudoltha red.
Players: Rosie is also an uncommon, that means she won't be hard to find!
Wizards: I think we screwed up on it's rarity.
We love valuable uncommons.
Hopefully the higher supply will give WotC the time to reflavor and release an IP free version before the price spikes too much if she does pop off in usage.
Watch it get banned from the format because it's "Too powerful"
What happened? 😅
MonoBlueTron was so popular that a person started making Yugioh videos with that name.
And I’m also pumped to see the other cards, such as “Aragorn the Unifier”, “The Watcher in the Water”, the Sauron cards, AND, “The King of the Oathbreakers”. These cards are gonna be quite interesting.
That Rosie Cotton and Scurry Oak is a very good combo. Thank you for the video Professor.
Both of the infinites in Heliod Company use a legendary and a non legendary creature. They’re both susceptible to the blue counterspell you showed, but they can also be made uncounterable by the halfling card and the counterspell can be reprieved. These new additions seem perfect for a selesnya deck (and not because of white tree).
Glad to see that green/white decks are gonna hopefully see some love, selesnya has always been a favorite of mine.
A thing that the video didn't have the chance to cover due to the date it became popular is the samwise gamgee guy with the cat and a sac outlet (like viscera seer). unearth and coco look great there, stitcher's supplier even
Great video as always, Prof! Love your stuff! It's so apparent how skilled your entire team is. From the scriptwriting to the editing. Top stuff and it's appreciated!
The professor is more and more fun to watch. I love the sens of humour you build since a few months/years. It's like good wines, I can't wait to discover the old Professor in 30 years.
What I think should have been said with stern scolding is that it can counter cards like solitude.
Love the content, as always!
Keep up the positively potent picks and perspectives that you perpetually provide as a purveyor of pulse pounding particulars.
Was wondering why it's Delighted Halfling and not Delighted Hobbit until I realized that it's meant to be easily reprintable without changing the name, same with Orcish Bowmasters, as well as white Remand and Stern Scolding.
I'm excited for Orchish Bowmasters in Legacy
Wow, the tree card is quite good. Thanks for sharing.
My current favorite commander is Solphim. Its a fun deck. But I do like to run wand of chaos, wand of wonders... + Aria of flames and now there's lovely space for fiery inscription and fall of cair andros.
Treasure cruse format being featured on shuffle up and play is probably the most exciting part of this video. Treasure cruise is like planechase but better (mostly because wotc doesn't have their hands in it... Yet) if you haven't tried it, proxy up a deck and give it a go.
I play both magic and Yu-Gi-Oh, and I always love your videos like this, because In Yu-Gi-Oh, our format warping mega threats are cards like "The big guy, 3000 atk, 2500 defense, once per turn negate the activation of a card and if you do destroy it also twice per turn you can send one card from both players fields to the grave yard also if this card is in your grave you can banish one little guy from your grave in order to special summon it during either players turn and if you do flip one monster on the field face down into defense position, and if you do, your opponent has to give you a massage. You can only use each effect of "the big guy" once per turn.
And then in magic, the format warping mega threat that everyone is scared of is "the tree"
It makes my guys a little stronger, and its also a pretty neat little floodgate that stops some interactions.
To be fair, some of the most powerful Yu-Gi-Oh cards IIRC are basically versions of "When your opponent would do X, discard this from your hand to prevent X from happening." In MtG, a zero-mana Counterspell like Force of Will or Force of Negation is so obscenely powerful it requires you to discard a second card just to play it and it's STILL banned in most formats.
@@ObsidianKnight90 this is very true, but hand traps while universally playable, are often not game wining on their own. You still need a "the big guy" to clear what board your opponent is able to make. Even if ash or nib helped clean it up
the little pot that draws 2 cards is pretty scary too
@@sunthi9619 true draw power is nuts in YGO. we have to banish half our deck just for an unconditional draw 2 these days and it's still the best thing ever
@@larhyperhair Right, which is why control decks pair counterspells with cards like Wrath of God (i.e. destroy all creatures in play). You foil the key threats, wipe the opponent's board, and then win via card advantage and creatures your opponent can't deal with efficiently.
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Me too!
On it, boss
Well if you insist….
You're not my supervisor!
Well done, comrade
it's pretty funny how many "this will be played in modern" predictions the prof has made that have been completely incorrect lol
His number one pick def was wrong. I can’t believe he didn’t mention samwise
@@anonymousham4166 my favorite was he predicted Aspiringspike was gonna try a new brew with a certain card and spike said "yea I'm probably not gonna cast this card ever" lol
@@jeef16 right. This set isn’t even close to an MH3. There’s like 3 cards maybe that will see play, and most are just upgrades for decks. It’s clearly a commander focused set.
@@anonymousham4166 I've never seen more people lost in the sauce than over Stern Scolding. people must be really smoking crack if they think this card will even see sideboard play lol
@@anonymousham4166 but tbf the professor is inherently casual-oriented so all of these recommendations are really for casual modern players who just want to make some sort of deck that does...something
Delightful Halfling into T3feri in Bant Control looks funny
Some of the "legendary matters" creature cards will slot nicely into my Mardu Legendary Humans EDH, like Eowyn, Merry and Eomer. Both Gandalf the White and Flowering of the tree are outside my price range for now but Day of destinies is already in there and should work nicely for now..
Okay the "and then ONE MORE WAS FORGED" bit had me in stitches 😂
I still see Boromir as this set's sleeper hit. God is that card so good
I think the skulk is going to be surprisingly good. Since you are ostensibly saving your team you will always have a ringbearer to target.
Great work with the #1 slot here Prof, thoroughly enjoyable content as usual.
I’m not a modern player but I’m VERY pumped to see the knights of dol amroth. Just to add them to my knight commander deck. Even though they’re not that good, I still love the knights in lord of the rings.
Delighted Halfling is an upgrade to the long forgotten Utopia Tree! 🤣
great video, I loved your clear explanations and visual examples.
I'm surprised Samwise Gamgee didn't make this list, him + cauldron familiar + viscera seer/goblin bombardment/free sac outlet is GG. Anywho nice video Prof!
it surprises me that you didn't talk about Forge Anew, but I kinda agree about the rest of the list
Samwise Gamgee might be good enough to see some play, going infinite with cat and a sac outlet.
Can I just say that I've always appreciated how transparent and fair-to-viewer you are with the sponsored sections of your videos. I appreciate the #Sponsored stamp on screen during. You're doggedly decent, professor.
Not brewing anything but I was really interested in Samwise Gamgee in a similar shell to Yawgmoth using Caldron Familiar.
16:11 it is a masterpiece! What a pace, what a tone and accent. True Morrdor is indeed capitalistic management of WotC and Hasbro...
So my rainbow dragons EDH deck now has BoP, CoS, AND Delighted Halfling?
Good review of the cards prof, wish modern wasnt so expensive to get into
Rosie Cotton pilots my Phyrexian Mite lunch deck, it's a delight.
I think Boromir also handles any Battles should those come up; sure, you get the front side, but it gets countered when flipped since it's being cast for no cost, right?
I know its not modern of pioneer but I've got a good idea for a G/W legends w/ Hobbits things waiting for the release. Really excited this set looks like it could be fun!
The first creature I thought of when that enchantment was spoiled was Ragavan. Is there any viable Winota/Boros deck for modern that could benefit from that two drop?
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Delighted Halfling also trades with Ragavan in combat.
I've been brewing an Azorius food token blink deck using Rosie Cotton, Protector of Gondor and Eastfarthing Farmer with a bunch of removal, flicker and counter spells. I make food tokens, put the +1/+1 counters on the creatures while using counter spells to protect them. And then use removal to clear the way for me to mash their life total.
Homie and I are splitting a collector and set box, looking forward to making some decks.
Top 5 cards IMO:
1) Delighted Halfling - Uncounterable legendaries and mana dork for 1 green mana? Yes please!
2) Flowering of the White Tree - Best anthem printed imo
3) Sol Rings (duh)
4) Aragorn Company Leader - Maybe not top 5, but damn it is strong in a deck with a lot of tempting options.
5) Glamdring - Good cheap equipment with a powerful effect
And my personal favorite for the set is Last March of the Ents. Sick flavor, great finisher effect, can't be countered, I like this one
Whoever is excited about that WW card never played modern for sure
maybe some desperate kethis players, but this will not make kethis playable.
on the other hand forge anew seems pretty good to try if you play hammer.
I play a B/U artifact Myr deck in modern/ legacy... and even I'm adding the Orcs in my sideboard as an aggro swap vs full control decks.
Stern Scolding will now be known as "Fatal Shush".
I just like how boromir combos with ratadrabik
Samwise in Asmo food for cauldron familiar combo. also looking at samwise in saffi renegade rallier combo.
speaking of shuffle up , i already saw the most recent and already looking forward to the treasure cruise one
Man... white black recursion shenanigans with boromir has some crazy potential...
Omg that skript and the delivery are extremely satisfying.
Hahaha loved the little surprise flavorful twist
Hey I've seen this one before!
Good stuff
Edit: flowering of the white tree isn't going to break the format. It'll be a contender but it's going to be right next to other decks in the format.
The Scurry Oak Rosie Cotton combo will be in Historic.
What else could make the Coco Rosie deck work? How about a mana dork that makes Rosie and Heliod uncounterable?
Lotho feels overlooked. Being a effective Orzhov Channel on a body is pretty gas, Orzhov Stoneblade perhaps.
that squirrel combo looks a little nutty
I thought it was called “Lotr Commander legend 3”
Wow, finally a use for Collected Company!
I think Samwise Gamgee is gonna see a lot of modern play and is definitely a missed card on this list. The fact that it very easily goes infinite with cauldron familiar means its gonna be a beast
i agree i love the little cats
Throw in Phyrexian altar into the mix, and you can get an infinite mana combo going as well.
I guess their potential to power out infinite combos is what brought them together.
I love that Rossie and her combo card are uncommon. Meaning it won't be expensive. Collective Company might increase though. I never thought I'd play GW, I'm more of a RB player but here we are. I wish she had been an elf.
Oh god the rosie combo is legal in historic too! now all we need is walking ballista and we can lose the life gain all together
I'd like to point out more cause it's funny than I think it's useful Boromir counters defeated battles as they are exiled then cast for no mana cost
The 3rd toughness means cascade decks have to have Brazen Borrower and not fire\\ice. love it
Stopped playing for so long i actully have no idea what ward does lol
It's recently new as a keyword but it's been printed before as regular text, it's just "if an opponent's spell/ability would target this permanent, counter it unless they pay {ward cost}"
@@frankcaggiano8282 oh thanks
Does that mean Boromir counters cards like Mana Crypt, Mox Amber or Ornithopter too?
The combo with Rosie Cotton and Scurry Oak only works if you manag to put a wrench in it if you want to do anything else for the rest of the game like attacking with other creatures in the same turn you activated the combo.
The Scurry Oak trigger is optional, so you can stop the combo whenever.
@@SappinYourSentries Right, you can put a +1/+1 counter onto one of the countless squirrel tokens. Didn't think of that.
That finale!
Rosie definitely going into my Rocco food deck
Rosy Cotton! She works a lot better than Ivy Lane Denizen since she can be Companied, but if you want a 5th or 6th of either combo piece add Ivy Lane Denizen as extra Rosie's & Herd Baloth as extra Scurry Oaks!
stern scolding also hits grief and solitude which is huge against scam in modern
Not to mention Ragavan, all kinds of mana dorks, and apparently a lot of other highly played creatures in the format. Mental Misstep did too though so time will tell if the slightly broader scope of Scolding makes a difference.
Rosie and Oak tutored up with protean hulk.
It sure is weird seeing all these references to a property I don't know anything about in MTG videos, I never know what the LotR bits are about
I need the prof to tell me how undervalued these commander decks are. Specifically with the Gandalf precon
Orcish bowmasters + wheels in commander seems juicy
LOL no shot Flowering of the White Tree is going to impact modern that much
Is that music in the intro from "look around you"???
I know this focus is on modern but man commander is being ripped open as well. Maybe a short based off how much commander is going to spike in power? Legendary matters decks are going to be so powerful.
does anyone really care though? In CEDH you can just turn 3 win anyway so Commander power level is always just going to come down to the agreement within the play group.
@@counterpoint1494 Yes. Even tho EDH is usually a causual format, this highly affects playing with randoms at conventions or LGS one off events. It won't affect constent pods yeah, but it does affect the power level of the format in general.
Multiple times at conventions I have sat down with a group of people to play and we discussed mid to low power decks, only for a single person to whip out Sol ring, mana crypt, arcane signet, Old school fetch lands that lead to a turn 3-5 win.
Even with the above example aside, this raises the bar. Stuff that might have been a "high power" before might now just become a "meduim power. I.E. if the power level measured from 1-100, and this set raises that to 125... decks that were a 75 (aka in the top 25% range) are now in the top 60% and are now more "mid". Which skews pre-game discussions as well.
@ Ben Victim..Commander is no longer causal since WOTC started printing cards for/to commander...i.e Jeweled Lotus, free spell if control commander etc..
I see some strong cards on the "Horizon"
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Rosie Cotton and Scurry Oak are neat but if its a never ending combo it ends the game in a draw, not a win. Aswell, if you cast it at instant speed with collective company on their endstep, youll never get to untap and attack because the combo never ends, unless you have an instant speed removal to take out one of your own combo pieces. sporemound & life and limb are a similar effect that gives you infinite saprolings that are also lands, but the game cant progress without a krosan grip or some type of removal.
The moment I saw Reprieve I knew it was absolutely busted, but that's because I've played Remand. It's nuts, and while you can't count on it for long you are guaranteed to catch people off guard with it if they don't see you in Blue. Mana Tithe still has that effect to this day and it's not even half as good.
Sisay cedh is gonna love flowering
Professor, was this a "Arrested Development" quote at 13:12? "There are dozens of us Michael...Dozens!"
I'm just glad I get to put oil counters on Gollums withered body
God Eternal Oketra will surely be recruiting Flowering of the White Tree, Rosie and Reprieve for the Zambie Horde :)
The Rosie combo is a bit limited because it needs Rosie to enter after Oak every time, no? That will come up a lot of times, similar company combos in the past did not care about order
yikes, delighted halfling is already 20.5 €!
Orcish bowmasters is also super expensive, there was talk about it might being banned in commander