Fumbling the FINALE | Sonic Prime Season 3
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
- The end of Sonic Prime has finally arrived. And I can't say I'm a fan. Loved the series as a whole, but that last season was really a struggle.
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The Amys are the MVPs of this story.
True the roses and shadow were easily the best part
so happy they got the spotlight
Fr they were all girl bosses
I guess as they say hedgehogs, strong together.
the boyfriend energy between Shadow and Sonic was really hammered home in this season so I can’t be too upset at it
I am honestly getting tired with the way Sega tends to handle Shadow. They use him as fan-bait to get you excited and then call it a day. They rely on his presence alone to carry the story.
They did the same thing in Sonic Boom and they did it again in Sonic Prime. They kept coming up with excuses to keep him out of the story, which at that point I would have preferred they split him up like they did with everyone else. At least then they would have done something interesting with him. At least in Sonic Boom it made a bit more sense. What with it being a seperate universe, therefore the characters acting as different as they do.
What frustrates me even more is the fact that Sonic himself doesn’t inquire or worry about Shadow’s well being after he is out of the Grim. It’s not just that the audience forgets he is in the story, it’s that Sonic does too.
And the emerald didn’t come into play at all, aside from the ending. When it was tossed into the void I thought that either Shadow or Sonic would fall in and get out by teleporting with it. But nope!! The Chaos Emerald was excused out of the plot, just like Shadow was.
The entire time after Shadow fell into the ravine, I was yelling ‘Ok, but WHERES SHADOW?’
Turns out he was just fighting robots the entire time 😭
agreed the execution was garbage!
Remember the time were Knuckles was a complete idiot, but then Sonic 2 showed who he really is? Maybe something like that with Shadow will happen in Sonic 3. They can give him good characterization and show his real potential in stories. At least I'm hoping that will happen.
I’m kinda sad we didn’t get a cowboy shatter space easily could have made knuckles a cowboy.
Wait that’s it maybe the yellow shard can create a new shatterverse called angels west where knuckles sonic tails being cowboys finding the the yellow shard before egg bandit and dread can be good freinds with cowboy knuckles there both fun versions of knuckles
Or a superhero shatterverse kingdom shatterserse be big and rouges own shatterverse
If silver was in the show I know EXACTLY what he would be called in the cowboy world
hi-ho Silver
(and for the pirate world, John Silver)
I think the biggest problem with Sonic Prime was the side-lining of Shadow. Through all three seasons, he only does something near the beginning and end of each season. In fairness, season one was dedicated to establishing each shatter-verse, but the subsequent seasons had him side-lined and not doing much while Sonic was helping his various friends. He didn't need to OP, but I think he needed more involvement with the plot.
Also, there were too many fight scenes. The War stuff was cool, but then it got tiring after a while. Wish there was more down time.
But other than that... it was a solid Sonic Cartoon. Genuinely good story arc, fun action and acting, and I really dug Deven Mack as Sonic! I hope he goes on to voice Sonic in future projects...
i, too, love the smell of hedgehog in the morning.
Considering how sonic prime ended, I feel like they should do another season
What would they add though?
@@iknowwhatyouare102 we literally see another blue shockwave and a big bot. Is it eggman or someone else?
@@GDSK09 Hmm I guess you have a point there.
@@GDSK09 Hmm I guess you have a point there.
Bro doesn't understand the concept of ending a show by saying "their adventure continues." Its literally just there to say "hey, even though its over, you can be content knowing that Sonic and his pals are still going on adventures." Its their way of saying things have returned to normal. There's nowhere the story could go from here. The prism was taken away by Shadow, and Sonic can no longer travel between worlds. It would just end up being Sonic fighting Eggman again like always, and there's no real point in that since there's no story to tell.
I feel it would've been better if it had been like an hour/hour-and-a-half long special instead of a full season.
i liked the concept of the series, but s3 could have been 3 episodes and that was it instead of dragging it out for the number they did.
Still a better plot than most Marvel movies these days
And sonic prime is missing an episode I bet there saving the last episode for a sonic prime spinoff movie where the chaos counsel turn the shatterverse into the eggoverse
Marvel movies are kinda as tasteless as dry wall. It's not bad, it's...meh. Spider verse is good tho.
I love my guy Stan Lee tho
They should have had at least three episodes dedicated to a total My Little Pony style Nine redemption arc, because they were definitely hinting at the Sad Fox Boi's sense of distrust being rooted in self-destructive tendencies.
With the bad guy being a misguided Tails, this is THE best time for a big ol Friendship climax!
Nine is definitely showing a strong potential for self-deletion, (leave me alone forever, I'm willing to speed up the apocalypse in a calculated risk that you probably will hand over your power, I literally have nothing to lose, either I'm right or everything is meaningless, etc) and Sonic could have definitely helped stopped that since Nine even had that little nook set up for him.
Shadow could have gotten some great lines in there about moving on, even when it feels like the world is against you/passes you by/etc.
Really set up Nine not as this worrysome liability, but as this science based hero who the Shatterepaces could rely on if the Eggmen went too far out of their lane.
Frankly, it was kinda weird how they were just going along with the "its ok, just let Nine totally self-isolate forever" thing, too. (What a bad mental health message!)
It really felt like the entire point of Shadow's presence in the show would be to have the King of badass cartoon animal loners show how he's learned how even badass cartoon animal loners can benefit from social interactions, helping others, and making the world a better place. Shadow chose to be a Hero, and Sonic's method didn't work, so now it was his turn to try to Friendship monologue.
Presumably after he is able to see Nine as his own person and not just a shadow of Tails, and is inspired by... idk, his determination? (He spends the entire show rightfully pissed at Sonic and Nine, so he would need some epiphany)
Nine would listen to Shadow because Shadow understands what its like to see everyone else as pointless and unreliable. And just how ludicrous a premise that friends actually results in personal betterment. (And then people would be mad forever because Shadow finally got his own multi-tailed fox sidekick, who then got shoved into an alternate reality, never to be seen again, lol)
Then, after the Self-Help portion of the finale, they should have had a cool ending where a character from each shatterspace takes on some shatter energy and they force the energy together in some climax event with rainbows and teamwork. (further justifying the Pirate Amy promotion to Captain, for one)
Not them just standing around in a lab, with Sonic blatantly not dying and just getting a scifi tummyache.
This definitely felt like they stretched half a season into an entire season, with the writers leaving to get milk halfway through, and the battle choreographers picking up ALL the slack.
And, like, I still have to respect that.
It never got *bad,* just extremely bland, which isn't the worst thing to happen to a sonic project. And they consistently kept the action above average for a kid's cartoon, without a ton of recycled content.
If people want nonstop fighting, here you go, a show that actually delivers on that premise for basically an entire season.
That's definitely not my thing, but I know some people are constantly talking about how much they want unending fighting, so there you go. A show that pulls a TV-quality, child friendly John Wick for an entire season.
I appreciate the discussion of Nine's character plenty! I too agree he's a very conflicted kid who definitely struggles a lot and very much definitely did not deserve Sonic to tell everyone to just leave him alone forever. I don't think Shadow being so empathetic towards Nine would quite fit tbh, he's probably one of the characters who has the most reason to be especially mad at Nine. But one thing that should happen imo, especially if Shadow and Nine talk it out later, is a confrontation where Shadow actually tries to fight against Nine while Nine is going through his "redeeming himself" thing. Sonic could try to stop Shadow, too. It could highlight both aspects of Nine's role in the story (he did some terrible things and so Shadow doesn't like him, but he just wants a friend and so Sonic understands that and backs him up), and it could serve to progress Nine's character even more by showing that Sonic is still firmly on his side.
i aint reading that😭
If you think that Prime is the equivalent of the comics… you really REALLY have to read the IDW comics 1-32 mainly to see how night and day the stark contrast these stories are compared to them. They are absolute works of art and arguably the greatest Sonic stories ever told
I think the biggest problem with how much Sega is pushing Shadow is that they screwed themselves over by making him so one note. So now they're stuck wanting to put Shadow in everything because he's so popular but never knowing how to properly use his character because of how Sega insists he is depicted. Even though in Sonic 06 he'd pretty much moved past being rivals with Sonic and opened up to working with and properly acknowledging his friends, that development was thrown out the window in favour of him being an edgelord who doesn't believe in friendship. I haven't watched Prime but from the clips I've seen it does look like Shadow has at least a little bit of his old self when it comes to co-operating with others.
Personally I really don't like how they handled Nine in this season. I'm not against the idea of him getting a redemption arc, but the season focuses so much on the fighting, that we don't get moments with Nine reflecting on what he did and hint at his possible redemption. The focus should've been on Nine and Sonic, showing Nine's conflicted emotions and Sonic trying to reason with him
Strongly agree. Nine at the end of season 2 was a fascinating character, but season 3 kinda fumbled the bag with that
@@Miju001 I feel like in general they leaned too much on him being a villain instead of a character we could sympathise like the first two seasons did. The way they had him act as the season went on, having be more cruel and willing to hurt people made it really hard to see him getting a redemption, and the redemption itself was done way too easily
@@skysiren4113 For sure. If the message of the show was that Nine needed to see the value in friendship, then making him as villainous as they did makes it really hard to deliver that message well, because Sonic had to learn the same lesson too and it took him a long time to do that. The other "antagonists" kinda learn that lesson together with Sonic; having Nine be so far behind on that front means that the show was forced to do a 180 with him at the end. Not to mention that I think making Nine more conflicted would have also made him more compelling, and maybe it would have even actually addressed some parts of the conflict between him and Sonic that we don't get to see much in the end (like the whole thing that Nine got mad at Sonic because he saw him as Tails, basically).
@@Miju001 I think the show could've had a scene where when Nine finds out Sonic has the missing piece of the Paradox Prism, we see him look shock and conflicted. Even though Sonic did hurt him, he doesn't want to kill him for it. While yes he would try and go through with it, a scene like that could've showed that Nine is still a good person deep down
The more I think about it, Nine in season 3 shares a lot of the same problems as Starlight Glimmer from mlp (as weird as it sounds). Both are characters that the writers want us to sympathise with and want to see be redeemed, but they lean so much into them being villains and not having moments to hint at their human side, that it makes their redemption feel sloppy
@@skysiren4113 I'm not familiar with Starlight Glimmer unfortunately, but I had the same exact thought as you about Nine. Unfortunately there is already a basis for him being selfish, since he took the Prism shard for himself in earlier seasons, but still, I think a scene like the one you described could have gone a long way with making Nine more sympathetic, especially if they built upon it afterwards.
I've seen some people say this season needed to be condensed, but I don't really agree - I think it needed less action, sure, but also more character moments to sell something like Nine's redemption at the end.
This needs to be like frontiers: a new ending
Personally I didn’t feel much when I saw the show. I like the animation and shadow though
so, you're saying, the ENTIRE Sonic Prime wouldn't have happened if Sonic had a bigger character improvement and more open mind at the beginning of the first episode?
TToTT
Sonic Prime was really good even if the end didn't go very well. I do agree we were shadow baited quite a bit and that was frustrating. But also I like the sonadow that was present, not because I ship them, but because I like they are acknowledging the people who do ship them because it is really popular.
YES YES!! I was very curious on your reactions and thoughts about season 3 when I immediately finished it myself!!🤚🏾 Apart from getting a bit bored from the fights looking similar, but overal it was okay
It does feel like they dragged on the story and then rushed the finale but I still absolutely love this show! It was so much fun for me and I can’t wait to see where Sonic shows go next!
Also something this show did right was Shadow, I love Shadow’s character in this show and it, in my opinion, is the best Shadow we’ve gotten since ‘06.
Anyway, I love these videos! And are you planning to do more Ninjago reviews because those are so entertaining
It's not a surprise, it's been ages since I've been a Sonic fan cuz at some point, I just got tired of being dissapointed by SEGA so I tuned out, shame that even their Sonic show fumbled yet again 😔
I know it is irrelevant but I need to ask, are you continuing ninjago??? Become I have been holding my breath for you to watch tournament of elements and I if you wont do any more videos on that show, I just want to know what to wait for. Kisses love/p!!!
The sonadow fans are eating good this year❤
I love all the Sonadow puns you put in here 😂
The pacing was rough, but I enjoyed the show. The voice acting was solid, and I like the way the wrote Shadow’s character (although he could’ve been more prominent in the story).
3:25 Sonic face and reaction to evil Tails hating chill dogs is amazing and most crazy disgoul sense I see from Sonic Prime!!!
1:08 Sonic why do you still trust him?
I watched sonic prime as a newer fan to the franchise and honestly was enjoying it a lot. But could definitely tell that by the last season/ few episodes that the story definitely just flopped and was getting kinda boring or just overly dragged out. Idk how to put it exactly but I could definitely tell that something about the story and the pacing in the finale was off compared to the rest of the show since it was going so well up until that point.
Also (tho unrelated) shaman king flowers is out. Just not on any official site
I loved this show so much so I'm so sad that it fumbled the ending as badly as it did
Honestly the Ending felt fine
Sonic and KH are two of my favorite franchises
Yo, you should try reviewing Sonic Underground
I feel like in stead of 5 versions of Egg Man you should have 5 robotic generals something like Sonic X S3 and make Egg Man this old dying man who needs technology to keep him alive.
Eggman could also have the motivation to pick 1 of his generals to take over the empire before he kicked the bucket.
Me, already subscribed, who LOVES KH, but is indifferent about Sonic, however I clearly do like listening to the stuff you care about: ....like videoooo
I'm glad shadow's getting more stuff for generations and sonic 3 the movie
bc I liked prime shadow, he personified most of my feelings while watching the show. but please just use him more if ya gonna put him in stories Sega
Also nahhh shadow went to undertale after falling down the ravine
I'm so tired of protagonist who never give up on trying to redeem and reason with villains some characters cannot be saved.
Yeah Same lol , that trope has gotten old in media
Will you make video game spin off channel talk about kingdom hearts
The finale was a little flimsy but I still enjoyed it and was satisfactory😁
Loved prime but the ending definitely could have been better.
This series should have just been an animated movie series in my opinion.
tbh when I watched the last episode I wouldn't call it an ending it legit felt like the show just stopped rather than concluded.
I liked nine
He was a well done character I think
I've seen people say this season needed to be condensed and I disagree, this season's finale (as in everything that happened in the final episode) was way too short. What actually needed to happen was to take some of the action out and redistribute that time to properly wrap up the season, like with, for example, a decent change of heart for Nine possibly packaged in a finale that wasn't anticlimactic
i'm not sure if you'd see this comment, but i would love to see you make a video about yuri!! on ice, and yk....the case of the missing movie/hj it would be a fun addition to your "what happened to..?" series
First of all, I'm saying this obviously not one minute past the beginning of the video.
Second, in response to the robot versions of sonics team members: there's a mod for metal outfits for knuckles, amy and tails, don't know about shadow in at least on of the older games. Don't know which one but it definitely already existed before prime 3. I'm thinking the start of the fight with those robots is a reference, although this is just a fan theory from me to you, just some food for thought
What really annoyed me about the ending was how the solution was reached. The season started with Sonic & Nine both realizing "Hey, literally all of existence is going to crumble if the prism isn't fully restored" and ends with them realizing "Hey, literally all of existence is going to crumble if the prism isn't fully restored" and so Sonic finally lets Nine absorb his energy and fix everything. It truly makes the entire *season* feel completely pointless in retrospect. Sure, some characters may have developed in that time, but none of it was *necessary* for the end to be reached.
8:18 missed opportunity for another kingdom hearts reference
All I was looking for!!!!❤
Did anyone else mention Who Killed Sonic the Hedgehog? I feel like that would be interesting for Negative to discover if they haven't already.
I love your analysis of series especially your reserospectives. I recently remembered a show from 1995 that was pretty much my entire childhood because of the video rental store 😂 and I would love to hear your thoughts on it if you ever have time to get to it.
I think it’s called called Princess Gwenevere and the Jewel Riders in other countries (but in the UK it was called Starla and the Jewel Riders). It’s an animated show for girls about a magic princess and her friends going about and saving the day with the power of magic gemstones and their talking unicorns. It ran for two seasons and has a loose plot with mostly episodic adventures.
Great show, I rediscovered it after looking through some old photos and honestly it’s not bad by today’s standards. It’s very 1980-1990’s girl power but it was a fun and nostalgic rewatch
only thing that still bothers me is, that this wasnt a 3rd season. it was part 3 of season 1 lol. thats why the ending is so open too, like. theyre not done and theyre willing to make more if netflix doesnt cancel them like they do everything these days.
It only had 3 seasons and that was it I think it was only supposed to have that many
@@ginapetolicchio2684 thats exactly what i mean. when it was first released it was advertised as part 1 of season 1 and so on. but then the advertisement changed when people began calling it seasons. and YES, it was intended for 23 episodes, because that was the initial deal with netflix. the ending was left open in case the series became successful and netflix demanded more seasons. potentially we could get a continuation of this story.
Gotta go fast
Season 3 could have just been a movie
This series was super disappointing. I get I'm not the target audience exactly, I'm sure if I was a kid I would have adored it despite everything the way I did with Sonic X back in the day. But it does feel a little disappointing that in this day and age where it's clear that many adults also enjoy Sonic, it's a bummer that the writing wasn't engaging enough for older audience members too. And I don't mean "I wish there was adult references in this kids show" I just mean that the writing is so simple and weak and I wish it could be stronger for that all ages appeal that shows like Gravity Falls and ATLA did.
Fun fact on disney Italia youtube channel 4 months ago was announced W.I.T.C.H will have reboot comic adaptation
I loved sonic prime but oh my god there were too many fight scenes in season 3
You should do a video about wakfu season four !!!
More like fumbled the whole series OHHHHH
4:55 that actually made me laugh XD
NEGITIVE PLEASE MAKE A VIDEO OF THE BRATZ SHOW yes I know is dated but it’s still hits (it would be so awesome it would be so cool)
Giant Big Cat robot is just a bit Snorlax.
Why do I ship Sonic and Shadow. I may have a problem.
They should’ve just brought back sonic X or boom
No because Sonic Prime 🏆 because it’s 3d related show have action in it
i love this show, but i heard so many "for once i agree with (blank)" too many times. .. dont know if that was only me tho
IMO, the biggest problem of the show is the lack of dialogues. For a person who played no sonic games and got into sonic through this show THIS amount of active fights is actually pretty tiring. When 2nd season came out I watched all episodes in one evening. My head was cracking with pain to the end. 3rd season has a switching glowing background as a treat x( The show just can't slow down for a moment. Oh, wait! It could. In season 1!
Like, additional dialogues could somehow close Nine's ark. But no, they just forgot about him. Additional dialogues would make the plot more comprehensible. I rewatched the moment when Sonic notices the palm in Nine's citadel a few times because I couldn't understand WHY did he suddenly think of Nine doing something for HIM.
All in all, the 1st season was the most interesting and exciting one and had a BALANCE between action and dialogues and the 3rd has a rushed ending and endless tiring fight with repetative moments and flashy background.
Also, I feel really bad for Nine who was just left alone. What life do you expect him to get after THIS? He'll be a lonely, probably HATED, hermit again. His problem is NOT solved. He just went to the background when they sucked out Sonic's energy.
I really wanna like the show but considering I skipped through half of season 3, still feel like I got the full experience/plot, and was bored of the bazillionth samey fight with the same characters and the exact same moves .... man, an hour long special would have served the purpose here way better than an entire season and even that would have left me bored.
days before the season 3 came out, i had a chat with my friends that i hate movies and shows that drag out fights for a long time, i mostly skip those. seeing a brute gets thrown into a wall over and over gets old fast and has no impact. I rather skip most fights like how i skip most songs, its a waste of time for me. I was hyped to see the 3rd season.... oh god. my friends asked how the season was and i said...
remember when i was complaining about dragged out fight scenes?
yea..
well thats the WHOLE SEASON
Can you do a video about what happened to Gormiti 2018 season 3, for the english version?
6:12 Kids shows can't kill off characters?
I enjoyed the show but I feel like the ending was hinting at a new villain popping up and it was a tiny bit anticlimactic if I’m using it correctly almost like it needed one more season or mini movie
Lol Hi, I been kingdomhearts since 2005 and liked sonic since 1996, so I guess that means me ? xD
It really should not have ended with everyone still keeping their own Shatterverse. In my opinion, Sonic should have died, but even if he didn't, everyone could come to an agreement and they would all go back to their original selves and reform the Shatter Prism to bring back Green Hill.
This season reminded me why I'm not a Sonic fan.
lol why?
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I lost interest when nine just gave up it's too freaking predictable which is assame because making him the villain was unique
For people who watch this show and also read the IDW comics. Is this show is good or even better as the comics. Or no?
I haven’t caught up with the idw comics in a while but the story there easily clears prime’s writing. especially arcs like the zombot arc and the surge and kit arc.
Mada Mada
i feel ending needed bit extra
Eh I thought it was fine
3:44 if you are taking about PG-13 that would mean the 2/3 of the voters choose the show to be rated PG-13 (seriously read up on the MPA rating system it's really dumb and vague when it comes to PG-13 and G clearly being written to allow racism, sexism etc. in the film industry)
6MIMS AGO IM EARLY
5:04 I take it you’re not a fan of Dragon Ball?
2:34 sadly every single episode is about action in this season and I love fights as much as the next guy but almost every single fight scene was so pointless there was no reason for any of the fights in this show other than the fights with Eggman or the Chaos Council.
XD
2024 is the year of sonadow 💙❤️
Sonic in the show is NOT the sonic from the games at all he's too dumb down for the sake of plot which if you do make your MC stupid just because of xyz its not good writing sure they can make a mistake here and there but not when its CONSTANT! even when sonic was so pikachu poker faced wondering why nine betrayed him to him trying to reason with him half the time Im with shadow as he's basically saying "Sonic! are you that stupid!?" like he's that annoying for me He's basically steven from steven universe lol
Fan fiction done wrong.🤷🏽♂️
Just Like Shadow Sonic's Main Friends in the show Got done dirty all together like aside from the flashback tree with amy in season 1 or the flashback before the shatter break with the Gang together those were the only times we see the main cast after season 2 season 3 kinda dwindled for me cause everything felt TOO Easy and i get its a kids show but at the same time Kids deserve proper good writing like everything felt rushed last minute and the ending got me so confused