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Aka infinity energy messing with the dimensional fabric explains why ash is really strong or pokemon lighter than showed, maybe their phyiscal/non-phyiscal blur by Infinity energy, hyper-dimensional-superscience/spiritual properties? Explain the mirror world, etc = 9th-dimensional
Agreed. Plus, it conflicts with other pre-established cannons. There was the Arceus movie were Ash travelled back in time a few hundred years back at least and Pokemon were still around. In the Pokemon: Legends Arceus game, it was set around a couple a hundred years back, and Pokemon were still around. In the Scarlett and Violet video game, Pokemon were established to exist in the ANCIENT past, although they hadn't evolved into present day forms yet so they looked different. But they were still pokemon. Heck, even as far back in the Red, blue, and yellow anime and video games, fossil pokemon were said to come from pokemon that lived thousands if not millions of years ago. So I'm thinking pokemon's own cannon kinda debunked this, some manga plot holes aside.
@@lordcheesus1013 Nah it makes sense lol Legends Arceus proves it. There are no eggs or breeding in the past. The people were super afraid of Pokémon in general. I can see how it took a while to discover new things about these new overpowered creatures lol. It could be the case that people did discover poke eggs but wasn't as " famous " as a professor to get the info out?. either way I think it fits hahaha
Agreed. Every official pokemon trainer gets a pokedex from their respective regions at the start of their journeys. And in modern times, it's become an official thing to possess each pokedex with a rotom. Putting those facts together and it's not hard to string it together that you can use the rotom-dex's to teach pokemon TM's, especially since rotoms are ghost types I believe. That probably gives them the ability to psychically connect to a pokemon's mind and help it learn the TM's move.
in data leaks this theory was proven that the pokemon were suppose to be more digital pets. It was the tamagotchi times so it makes sense that they were inspired. This is where in early games when you use a tm it would go on top of the pokemon's head, it spins, then disappears with the mon knowing the move now. I think this is also why you have to go to that pipeline thing to trade pokemon. It is like a digital recoding to the new owner. Rewrite speeds for computers were slow back then XD.
Ho-oh. I'm guessing this legendary bird gave him a blessing that Ash never knew about on the day they "met" on the very first episode. The stronger his bond gets with a pokemon, the more powered up his strength can get in times of need. I'm betting Ho-oh sensed Ash's early deep bond with Pikachu and decided the kid was worthy of some special powers.
I think the idea is early on during the gen 1/gen 2 eras, the Pokemon IP wanted their creatures to be a recent discovery. That means something changed along the way and in later gens it was decided to let Pokemon be around since their own world started. Hence the discrepancies. It's kind of like why Dragonite was obviously supposed to be a legendary pokemon as early as the Bill and the Lighthouse in the red/blue/yellow anime episode but then it got changed into being a regular, albeit very rare pokemon. Plans simply just got changed during/late into production before they could course correct some plot points.
Regarding Elm and Eggs, there are implications that Eggs aren't the natural way for Pokemon to reproduce in the wild. It's mostly just the way that characters talk about them, which can be chalked up to not wanting to get explicit about reproduction in a children's game, but if you take it literally, it could be that Eggs are only produced in a captive daycare type of scenario, and are mysterious for that reason. This would kind of explain things like Kangaskhan hatching with a baby already in its pouch: that doesn't happen in the wild, it's just the result of a weird magical thing that Pokemon are doing for the convenience of humans, or something along those lines.
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Realistically, the anime team just forgets pokemon weights. Trying to justify every animation error is an exercise in futility. For every instance of Ash lifting 200 lbs with ease, there are dozens if not hundred where he struggles to lift a moderately heavy object like a small rock or box.
i feel like there's a really easy way they can explain people carrying cosmoem, which is just that it uses all of its psychic powers to contain the black hole and control its weight which results in its inactivity or something like that.
Later generations contradict that since even if pokemon popped into existence, they also fought with trainers in ancient wars. Someone before Elm had to have seen and documented a pokemon egg.
Maybe he's just the first one to have actually obtained and studied an egg? Like, people were kind of aware having seen nests and stuff for ages, but ever really wanted to interfere with nature so nobody "officially" looked into them, and then eventually Mr Pokemon came around with his curiosity finally getting the better of him and he stole one, giving it to Elm to study?
How does time work in the anime? Ash has traveled across 10 different countries totaling 1000s of episodes and each episode takes place across a day. With that in mind how is Ash only 10? Does the Pokemon planet revolve around it’s Sun differently than ours?
Every time I mention Ash holding Cosmoem, I always see the argument "oh it's just floating he's not actually carrying it" like Cosmoem moves under its own volition or something.
Didn't HgSs kinda retcon the egg thing? I remember they treated pokemon having eggs as normal, and instead Professor Elm's big thing was instead just that _specific_ Togepi egg, instead of eggs in general.
Regarding the egg thing, I always assumed it wasn’t that Pokemon scientists didn’t know Pokemon laid eggs; it’s just that they’d never had one in their possession to study before. Maybe because Pokemon guard their eggs and don’t usually let people around them? Idk, something like that.
About the last fact, one could asume that humans of the Pokémon world are just stronger. From Bea's ability to tank Machamp's hits to psychic powers, humans are as tough as Pokémon are.
@@marioandfriends_official Yeah, but the dark has more than one form, and nighttime is one of them. Bugs or bug-like creatures such as worms are active at night, making them vicious creatures. Therefore, that is the TRUE reason bugs are strong against the dark.
@@user-lv8wd5op3y I don’t think that’s the true reason because it’s not originally called the dark type. Dark in Pokémon doesn’t meant lack of light, it means mean-spirited and mischievous. Your explanation is just a result of people misinterpreting the English localization
I'll piggyback from the psychic weakness of bugs, ghosts and darkness being basic fears, and it doesn't matter how evil, underhanded or twisted your mind is (the full scope of what the dark type represents in Japanese apart from the nocturnal aspect of it) you'll still be afraid of bugs
I have personal theory for Ash, and the anime in general. The in-universe explanation is that he is, indeed, a cartoon; but he is a cartoon that exists within the canon of the games (so a "cartoon within a game"). That explains not only his insane physical prowess and his non-aging, but also some other things. In particular, it explains why the characters that Ash meets in his journey don't have ages that are consistent with those from the games. Here's an example: Misty is slightly older than Red and Blue in the games, and there's around a 20 year age gap between Red/Blue and the Alola cast like Lillie and the trail captains. Yet, Misty and Lillie are roughly the same age in the show. The explanation would be that the show is a cartoon that features figures that are prominent in the Pokemon world (the main cast from the games), and they make guest appearances in Ash's journey, with their ages being adjusted in a case-by-case basis for story-telling purposes.
About Mr. Mime/Rime, that's not a retcon, that's new information about them. A retcon is something that doesn't have explanation while it contradicts previous events/elements, but this has no contradiction because genders for Pokemon weren't a thing until Gen 2. Also regarding TM's, Pokemon are not digital beings, it's just that TM's are created in factories (I mean they are "Technical Machines") but then a Pokemon learns the move by touching it just like an Evolutionary item, which is of course a magical item. So TM's, HM's and TR's are basically the technical counterpart to the magical items in the Pokemon world. It's the items, not the Pokemon.
I choose to believe that Ash unlocked strength like Saitama from OPM. He refused to accept limits and just blasted beyond them. He could punch a hole through a Steelix.
The lick move for the Gengar line explanation makes total sense, but why so they would put in the same generation the big tongue Pokémon Lickitung? This could perfectly fit as the signature move for Lickitung and the normal types as well
I find your explanation with the Pokémon eggs interesting, but unfortunately, it doesn't work for the games. In several places, it's explicitly mentioned that many Pokémon have existed on Earth for hundreds or even thousands of years. The book by Takeshi Shudo that you refer to is super interesting, but bringing it up here is misleading. Not because it would be 'crossing canons,' but because the ideas in the book are primarily concepts that were never implemented and were just written down as mere ideas he had in mind.
As I've explained myself, Pokemon are not digital beings, it's just that TM's are created in factories (I mean they are "Technical Machines") but then a Pokemon learns the move by touching it just like an Evolutionary item, which is of course a magical item. So TM's, HM's and TR's are basically the technical counterpart to the magical items in the Pokemon world. It's the items, not the Pokemon.
@@RoyArkonAnd how are they 'used' on the Pokémon? Does the Pokémon 'eat' it? Is it inserted into the Poké Ball? Does some external device convert the CD-ROM to a signal that teaches the Pokémon the move?
@@Mystmon It's like an Evolutionary item, when the Pokemon touches it, it gets the powers from that item. Only difference is that TM's, HM's and TR's are human-made items unlike Evolutionary stones.
My headcanon is that you sit the Pokemon down in front of the Teachy TV you get in Kanto, put the TM in like a DVD, and then they watch a “show” and learn the move
My only thoughts on Pokémon just poofing into existence one day. We know that ultimately didn't happen because we have Fossil Pokémon, and even in the anime, there were the Kanto Fossils who were thousands of years old, they were just asleep. 😅
I think the egg conundrum can be solved by assuming that pokemon have existed since the beginning but due to not understanding one another pokemon and humans didnt get along on a wide scale so eggs and baby pokemon were kept at a diatance except in rare instances where humans and pokemon got along like people having baby pokemon, people having megas etc. Essentially the human pokemon intergration is a failry new thing on a wide scale so Elms discovery isnt necessarily of eggs but how they come about and that pokemon arent mammals
Concerning Ash's strength: First, I wish people would stop thinking Ash has been on this journey for 25+ years. He hasn't. The anime itself has been running all this time, yes. But in story it's only been like 3 or 4 years at best since the kid started his journey. They were even trying to take that into account for a while in the earlier animes and have it sound and look like Ash was starting to grow up a little during the Black/White and X/Y anime arcs. Then, for what ever reason, Pokemon decided to revert Ash back to a 10 year old out of nowhere during Sun and Moon. Just imagine each episode in the entirety of Ash's Pokemon run being a single day in his life, as the narrator usually says. If we ignore the fact that some episodes span over multiple days, and take into account that there's 1,234 episodes, we can calculate Ash's age from there. There's 365 days in a year. 1,234 days/episodes/365= 3.38 years roughly. You take 10 + 3.38 and you get Ash's age at roughly 13.38, (or 13 and a half to round it nicely) years old. Now, if you want to throw in the extra story-time days it took some episodes to complete, you can probably round it up further to at least 14 or maybe even right around 15 years old. Just because it took however many years it did to air the episodes in real time doesn't mean that time matches the anime. Now, that said, I think there's a different reason for Ash's supernatural strength: Ho-oh. That legendary Pokemon was the first ever Ash encountered, and possibly one of the most powerful. I believe Ho-oh endowed Ash with special powers that could enhance his physical abilities based on his bonding levels with his Pokemon when Ho-oh sensed Ash's bond with Pikachu at the start and hence blessed him with a sighing of itself. When that legendary sensed Ash's bond with Pikachu, it deemed him worthy of its special blessing.
Ash was always ten bro what do u mean Ash didn’t “revert back to being ten” in sun and moon lmao He just learned how to take a step back chill out and have fun And if that makes you revert back to being a ten year old then everyone on this planet who has ever had fun is a ten year old
Ash was always ten bro what do u mean Ash didn’t “revert back to being ten” in sun and moon lmao He just learned how to take a step back chill out and have fun And if that makes you revert back to being a ten year old then everyone on this planet who has ever had fun is a ten year old
Also ur just wrong period The general director of the anime kunihiko iyama already gave us a canon answer why ash doesn’t age He says “I viewed the anime as a story that captured the feel of a day of summer vacation in one’s childhood of children venturing on a trip into the unknown exploring a world without parents alongside their friends and others who they engage along the way” “In the setting of the animation the main character ash is forever ten years old and the background season is forever early summer” “Sometimes it gets cold in the mountains or it could be hot, those changes happen by traveling” “Fundamentally it is forever early summer and he is forever ten years old and on top of that a day of summer vacation repeats perpetually” “This is what I hoped to create” “ a view of the world that would be ideal for children (addlibbed by me: and adults young at heart)”
i don't know why so many ignore 1 detail with Cosmoem... it has levitate!!! so even i can 'carry' a cosmoem... i just hold my hadns under it andd :O am i carying a pokemon weight 999kg?
Bruh the segway to the sponsor made me laugh so much🤣, also when you said the stuff about pokemon just appearing I realized if that were true arceus just would have no reason to exist XD
magcargo's body must have low specific heat capacity therefore it's temperature is high but quantity of heat is still not high enough to be melting anything (science)
A theory for the Egg thing is that Pokemon and Humans didn't trust each other so until recently the trust levels grew to the point where communities of Pokemon allowed humans to discover how they bred and created their children with Elm being the first of many to discover it and he became a professor to examine more of Pokemon in nature and further-in, how eggs were created. It must have been recent too because the day-care people were stunned to discover eggs when pokemon raised there had created them behind their backs so they contacted Elm since he had experience with wild Pokemon. What is also interesting is that Ditto's are found on the same route as the day-care. In conclusion, the human and Pokemon connections were still in breakthrough phrases and Elm was one of the first to record the connection between eggs and Pokemon and he was one of the few people to understand it.
The pokemon egg theory doesn't really work as both in the games and anime pokemon have existed for hundreds if not thousands of years. Centuries upon centuries of over a thousand species existing with and along mankind and not a single human being thought to explore how these creatures reproduced?
I think that eggs were treated like that was just because in gen 2 it was still a completely new game mechanic. In the remakes HeartGold and SoulSilver eggs are considered as something completely normal and it was just this one Togepi egg that was treated as something unusual.
I'm more in favor of the theory that humans in the Pokemon world are not like humans in the real world, they live in a world full of Pokemon that would kill normal humans easily even without intention, they are at least Captain America level, with Ash being ridiculous even by their standards.
For the Egg Theory, I would have said that perhaps humans originally thought Pokemon were like themselves and therefore could carry a baby to parturition, only for the advent of Day Care centres along with the compatible egg groups suddenly becoming a factor did people start noticing these eggs appearing. Before then, eggs would have been well guarded by wild pokemon so it was only because the pokemon in Day Cares having been caught and trained were people able to discover their existence.
On TM's, Pokemon can make themselves tiny at will in order to fit inside a pokeball, according to Legends Arceus, so it wouldn't surprise me if they could also glean knowledge from specialised objects. Certain stones, items, etc evolve Pokemon or boost their stats, etc essentially "magically", so it's not a far cry to assume that TM's are also just another one of these objects that Pokemon can interact with in their unique, magical way by just touching them like other objects.
I thought Elm discovered baby pokemon and the special method of using incense to breed them, since he gives you an egg that hatches into one of the new baby pokemon
Ash being able to carry Cosmoem means nothing though. It floats. Anyone should be able to move it with ease. Lillie also carries it in her bag in the games, yet no one ever brings that up. Also Ash wasn't able to lift a log in Alola despite being able to do so in Hoenn.
You just explained why there was no breeding or eggs in Legends Arceus. They were literally discovering Pokémon that just showed up. They feared the Pokémon potentially for decades. It sounds cannon to me lol
i mean we dont store the pokemon on a pc we send the pokeballs from a pc to a lab your prof lab like ash used to send from the pc to oak the weird part is how the pokeball dissapear and gets to oak from accros reagions (all this shows in the anime and explain a bit in season 1 when he gets craby)
-one thing that can explain Ash and his bond with pokemon comes from the fact Ash is aura user. he can manipulate aura, just like Lucario line and Greninja as we saw in anime. that can explain why Ash can befriend pokemon and can communicate with them in sort of ways. His physical strenght being massive compared to fact he has body of 10 year old also comes from one Pokemon, Ho-oh to be specific. Ash saw him on his first day of being a trainer and he made a wish so his journey will never end. That's why he seems to never grow and why he kept losing leagues until alola, because one condition for alola league was being eleven years old. Ash wanted to participate and thus breaking wish/spell Ho-oh gave him. if we use timestamps in anime that are directly said, Ash would be around 21-22 years old during Journey series. -thing about pokemon being in PC. In anime we can see that Ash had to call proffesor Oak whenever he needed some pokemon and we can watch in every start and end of series that Ash come to Oak's ranch and his pokemon spend time on fields, forest lakes etc. TMs can be really described as tutorial manual video(doesnt make sence why they were one time use till gen 6 onward but ok)
When it comes to anything with superhuman powers, magics, skills, or abilities - and why characters aren’t dying left and right specifically - I usually chalk it up to genetics. After lifetimes of people being exposed to and having endure and survive against the things that Pokémon can do, eventually, your average human has become one who can live through what would formerly mean death for them. We see it throughout the anime with Team Rocket being blown up in a number of ways, Ash being burned and shocked constantly, Professor Oak being smothered in poisonous slime, and even Ash’s own mother and neighbors being fine after all being shocked by Pikachu in the first episode.
I’d like to add one. I’ve known a lot of people to scratch their heads on how a pile of eggs becomes a palm tree. I know the answer to this! It’s not a palm tree but instead a Cycad. (They look like palms but are actually more closely related to pines) but specifically there’s one genus native to south and Central America called Dioon and their cones look like eggs (which is where the genus gets the name.)
😂 I just imagine mew visiting earth seeing all the humans chilling and as they sleep it just creates all of these massively over powered creatures that control elements then just dips 😂
Can't believe you missed that 18,000F isn't that hot... and isn't even the hottest thing that occurs in real life. Lightning Strikes are hotter then 18,000F. The surface of the sun is no where near the temperature of its core or its corona which are the actual hot parts. The suffer is a frozen wasteland in comparison.
I fully agree and believe I have heard from data leaks or concept art that pokemon are digital and the disk is data provided top them. It is also canon that the way they fit in the pokeballs is because they can shrink themselves. WILD.
I’m a big toku fan, but I never made that connection about Bug beating Dark. As soon as you mentioned Kamen Rider (you hadn’t even finished the explanation), though, it clicked. Game Freak references toku with this series quite a bit, actually. Besides surface-stuff like Tyrannitar looking like Godzilla and the various moth Pokemon that take after Mothra, you’ve got Zubat. It has the same name in Japanese, and it was likely named after Kaiketsu Zubat, another toku series that was similar to Kamen Rider. If it was just the name, it’d be nothing of note, just a play on “bat” and “zubatto” (a Zabanese onomatopoeia for a direct hit). Put in the context of the guys who made it, though (Japanese Baby Boomers and Gen Xers who grew up with this stuff) and the other references they made, it’s a bit hard not to see a connection.
The manga describes being able to go into your pokedex and cancel evolution that way, similar to the games. Withthat in mind, couldn't you just insert the disk into the pokedex and teach them the moves that way?
For Cosmoem, it floats in place, I don’t think physical strength is relevant there. But the other feats of strength don’t get that easy explanation. Ash has done a lot of traveling on foot and trains with his Pokémon, so I can accept he’s in peak physical condition for his age, but that doesn’t make him super human.
I think TMs are inserted into or scanned by the pokeballs. Pokemon aren't data but they have a unique ability to transform into data and back that humans dont. They are data when they are in the pokeballs and PCs.
My explanation for Ash's strength is that all along he's really been a "secret" isekai protagonist. We all know at the beginning of the anime he made his wish...well what happened was he was transported to an alt world. Just so happens it was an alt world/reality basically identical to his own expect he can stay young and go adventuring forever and ever. But anyone who knows isekai's know they pretty always come with cheat abilities, so I think Ash just got some crazy general stat boosting ability. Maybe tied into his everlasting youth or whatever. Yep, Pokemon is really a damn isekai all along...
Something to add to the magcargo body temperature conversation in as simple terms as possible. Basically the higher the temperature the harder it is for it to spread, and it remains concentrated in one point
Ash's father is Bruno, who is one of the most jacked dudes in the Pokémon world. Ash therefore has incredible genetics predisposing him to being strong.
Realistically, the anime team just forgets pokemon weights. Trying to justify every animation error is an exercise in futility. For every instance of Ash lifting a 200 lb Pokemon with ease, there are dozens of instances where he struggles to lift a moderately heavy (say less than 50lbs) object.
Gens 1 and 2 were very different from modern pokemon, so it's not that weird that they poofed into existence. Elephants existed back then too. It was literally our world.
I already knew about Lick. My theory on TMs is that, the information on the disc is beamed to the Pokémon through its Pokeball in a similar way to how Pokémon (which are not digital except for Porygon line) can be transferred into digital data and stored on in PC boxes.
Ok, if Pokemon were still new in gen 2 so Elm could be the first to discover pokemon eggs, that would suggest that for over 200 years, no one found a pokemon egg. Because in Legemds Arceus, Pokemon are still relatively new, and that's the whole point of the game. But in the 200 years between LA to Gen 2, no one ever found a pokemon egg? I'm not so sure about that one. What do you think?
who knows, maybe Ash is Psychic and he doesn't really carry anything, might be telekinetic powers, after all, some says said Ash was in a coma, dreaming and in a dream we can have any powers that exist in movies and cartoons, like flying, teleportation, telekinetic powers, telepathy. But your theory is way better than mine even if I might be right, who knows
Doesn't the idea that Pokemon just spawned in before Red/Blue kind of get debunked by the idea that they were around 100 years ago in the Hisui Region? Magenrna is supposed to be ancient too.
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Aka infinity energy messing with the dimensional fabric explains why ash is really strong or pokemon lighter than showed, maybe their phyiscal/non-phyiscal blur by Infinity energy, hyper-dimensional-superscience/spiritual properties? Explain the mirror world, etc = 9th-dimensional
@@skistorm739 Cosmoem might be lighter in the anime than how it's described in the games
Pokemon = Digimon CONFIRMED!!!
Digimon would also be able to learn TMs because they get their data updated.
That “get hot” ad spot was really something else 😅
Pokemon just appearing one day makes zero sense, even in Gen 1. It's been established that there have been pokemon since ancient times and in legends.
Agreed. Plus, it conflicts with other pre-established cannons. There was the Arceus movie were Ash travelled back in time a few hundred years back at least and Pokemon were still around.
In the Pokemon: Legends Arceus game, it was set around a couple a hundred years back, and Pokemon were still around.
In the Scarlett and Violet video game, Pokemon were established to exist in the ANCIENT past, although they hadn't evolved into present day forms yet so they looked different. But they were still pokemon.
Heck, even as far back in the Red, blue, and yellow anime and video games, fossil pokemon were said to come from pokemon that lived thousands if not millions of years ago.
So I'm thinking pokemon's own cannon kinda debunked this, some manga plot holes aside.
@@lordcheesus1013 Nah it makes sense lol Legends Arceus proves it. There are no eggs or breeding in the past. The people were super afraid of Pokémon in general. I can see how it took a while to discover new things about these new overpowered creatures lol. It could be the case that people did discover poke eggs but wasn't as " famous " as a professor to get the info out?. either way I think it fits hahaha
@@daveda1cDude, PLA only takes place about 150 years ago.
Also didn't the Pokemon war in Kalos take place 3000 years ago?
@@madbeef420 Yep
I always believe that TM and CDs are just data that you play on your Pokédex for a Pokemon to learn it as they watch
Obviously 😅
Well not on a pokedex maybe on a tv
Agreed. Every official pokemon trainer gets a pokedex from their respective regions at the start of their journeys. And in modern times, it's become an official thing to possess each pokedex with a rotom. Putting those facts together and it's not hard to string it together that you can use the rotom-dex's to teach pokemon TM's, especially since rotoms are ghost types I believe. That probably gives them the ability to psychically connect to a pokemon's mind and help it learn the TM's move.
Yea
in data leaks this theory was proven that the pokemon were suppose to be more digital pets. It was the tamagotchi times so it makes sense that they were inspired. This is where in early games when you use a tm it would go on top of the pokemon's head, it spins, then disappears with the mon knowing the move now. I think this is also why you have to go to that pipeline thing to trade pokemon. It is like a digital recoding to the new owner. Rewrite speeds for computers were slow back then XD.
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Saying Ash has demonstrated "above average" strength is the understatement of the century.
Ho-oh. I'm guessing this legendary bird gave him a blessing that Ash never knew about on the day they "met" on the very first episode. The stronger his bond gets with a pokemon, the more powered up his strength can get in times of need. I'm betting Ho-oh sensed Ash's early deep bond with Pikachu and decided the kid was worthy of some special powers.
The existence of Pokémon legends arceus throws that Pokémon egg explaination out the window
I think the idea is early on during the gen 1/gen 2 eras, the Pokemon IP wanted their creatures to be a recent discovery. That means something changed along the way and in later gens it was decided to let Pokemon be around since their own world started. Hence the discrepancies.
It's kind of like why Dragonite was obviously supposed to be a legendary pokemon as early as the Bill and the Lighthouse in the red/blue/yellow anime episode but then it got changed into being a regular, albeit very rare pokemon.
Plans simply just got changed during/late into production before they could course correct some plot points.
Regarding Elm and Eggs, there are implications that Eggs aren't the natural way for Pokemon to reproduce in the wild. It's mostly just the way that characters talk about them, which can be chalked up to not wanting to get explicit about reproduction in a children's game, but if you take it literally, it could be that Eggs are only produced in a captive daycare type of scenario, and are mysterious for that reason. This would kind of explain things like Kangaskhan hatching with a baby already in its pouch: that doesn't happen in the wild, it's just the result of a weird magical thing that Pokemon are doing for the convenience of humans, or something along those lines.
Well god is a horse, chickens breathe fire and humans like vaporeon a little too much. How do you make sense of it?
Some dex entries for Sneasel say that it invades nests and eats eggs
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Lillie: “He isn’t the only one with super strength.” *Lillie carry cosmoem
But Ash special training does explain alot
Realistically, the anime team just forgets pokemon weights. Trying to justify every animation error is an exercise in futility. For every instance of Ash lifting 200 lbs with ease, there are dozens if not hundred where he struggles to lift a moderately heavy object like a small rock or box.
I like to think it's the strength tm.
i feel like there's a really easy way they can explain people carrying cosmoem, which is just that it uses all of its psychic powers to contain the black hole and control its weight which results in its inactivity or something like that.
I feel like bug type is super effective against dark is because bugs thrive in the dark
That's another great reason for it too.
Dark is evil type in Japanese. It has nothing to do with nighttime darkness at least not in the beginning
@@jaidamwhi4589 Yes Dark Type is the evil Type but this guy has a point dude.
Cool explanation but even in English, dark type is not about literal darkness.
Later generations contradict that since even if pokemon popped into existence, they also fought with trainers in ancient wars. Someone before Elm had to have seen and documented a pokemon egg.
Maybe he's just the first one to have actually obtained and studied an egg? Like, people were kind of aware having seen nests and stuff for ages, but ever really wanted to interfere with nature so nobody "officially" looked into them, and then eventually Mr Pokemon came around with his curiosity finally getting the better of him and he stole one, giving it to Elm to study?
That explanation of why bug is strong against dark type is the most definitive answer, way better than what many people come up with.
How does time work in the anime? Ash has traveled across 10 different countries totaling 1000s of episodes and each episode takes place across a day. With that in mind how is Ash only 10? Does the Pokemon planet revolve around it’s Sun differently than ours?
The same way it does on Family Guy.
Every time I mention Ash holding Cosmoem, I always see the argument "oh it's just floating he's not actually carrying it" like Cosmoem moves under its own volition or something.
Didn't HgSs kinda retcon the egg thing? I remember they treated pokemon having eggs as normal, and instead Professor Elm's big thing was instead just that _specific_ Togepi egg, instead of eggs in general.
Regarding the egg thing, I always assumed it wasn’t that Pokemon scientists didn’t know Pokemon laid eggs; it’s just that they’d never had one in their possession to study before. Maybe because Pokemon guard their eggs and don’t usually let people around them? Idk, something like that.
About the last fact, one could asume that humans of the Pokémon world are just stronger. From Bea's ability to tank Machamp's hits to psychic powers, humans are as tough as Pokémon are.
As someone who covers Kamen Rider on yt, I was not expecting the franchise to be mentioned in a Hoops video 😂
7:26 The REAL reason Bug beats Dark is that bugs are extremely active at night.
he literally said that “dark” in jp is “evil”, it has nothing to do with nighttime
@@marioandfriends_officialit can be both
@@marioandfriends_official Yeah, but the dark has more than one form, and nighttime is one of them. Bugs or bug-like creatures such as worms are active at night, making them vicious creatures. Therefore, that is the TRUE reason bugs are strong against the dark.
@@user-lv8wd5op3y I don’t think that’s the true reason because it’s not originally called the dark type. Dark in Pokémon doesn’t meant lack of light, it means mean-spirited and mischievous. Your explanation is just a result of people misinterpreting the English localization
I'll piggyback from the psychic weakness of bugs, ghosts and darkness being basic fears, and it doesn't matter how evil, underhanded or twisted your mind is (the full scope of what the dark type represents in Japanese apart from the nocturnal aspect of it) you'll still be afraid of bugs
Either lick should be normal or Lickitung should be ghost. Is the gengar evo line dead Lickitungs?
I think elm was not the first discovering eggs, but the one who first investigated this topic as he is a professor.
I have personal theory for Ash, and the anime in general. The in-universe explanation is that he is, indeed, a cartoon; but he is a cartoon that exists within the canon of the games (so a "cartoon within a game"). That explains not only his insane physical prowess and his non-aging, but also some other things. In particular, it explains why the characters that Ash meets in his journey don't have ages that are consistent with those from the games. Here's an example: Misty is slightly older than Red and Blue in the games, and there's around a 20 year age gap between Red/Blue and the Alola cast like Lillie and the trail captains. Yet, Misty and Lillie are roughly the same age in the show. The explanation would be that the show is a cartoon that features figures that are prominent in the Pokemon world (the main cast from the games), and they make guest appearances in Ash's journey, with their ages being adjusted in a case-by-case basis for story-telling purposes.
Listening to you saying Ash maxed out his stats is so funny
Goddammit. I never even thought to realize Lickitung literally couldn't learn lick back in red and blue. Wtf
About Mr. Mime/Rime, that's not a retcon, that's new information about them. A retcon is something that doesn't have explanation while it contradicts previous events/elements, but this has no contradiction because genders for Pokemon weren't a thing until Gen 2. Also regarding TM's, Pokemon are not digital beings, it's just that TM's are created in factories (I mean they are "Technical Machines") but then a Pokemon learns the move by touching it just like an Evolutionary item, which is of course a magical item. So TM's, HM's and TR's are basically the technical counterpart to the magical items in the Pokemon world. It's the items, not the Pokemon.
I choose to believe that Ash unlocked strength like Saitama from OPM. He refused to accept limits and just blasted beyond them. He could punch a hole through a Steelix.
The lick move for the Gengar line explanation makes total sense, but why so they would put in the same generation the big tongue Pokémon Lickitung? This could perfectly fit as the signature move for Lickitung and the normal types as well
I find your explanation with the Pokémon eggs interesting, but unfortunately, it doesn't work for the games. In several places, it's explicitly mentioned that many Pokémon have existed on Earth for hundreds or even thousands of years. The book by Takeshi Shudo that you refer to is super interesting, but bringing it up here is misleading. Not because it would be 'crossing canons,' but because the ideas in the book are primarily concepts that were never implemented and were just written down as mere ideas he had in mind.
If Pokémon just poofed into existence one day, then why do we have fossil pokemon?
Arceus, thousands of years ago: let’s put some special creatures on the earth. And tada! Pokemon!
WHAT IS THAT THUMBNAIL 😂😂😂😂😂
Ash's GODLIKE power of course 😂
Can we stop with magcargo already? It was brought up by literal children who had no idea how basic heat transfer works.
[9:57] Then how would TRs work?
As I've explained myself, Pokemon are not digital beings, it's just that TM's are created in factories (I mean they are "Technical Machines") but then a Pokemon learns the move by touching it just like an Evolutionary item, which is of course a magical item. So TM's, HM's and TR's are basically the technical counterpart to the magical items in the Pokemon world. It's the items, not the Pokemon.
@@RoyArkonWhy are they CDs, then?
@@Mystmon Because they were created in a factory, it's a mechanical item.
@@RoyArkonAnd how are they 'used' on the Pokémon? Does the Pokémon 'eat' it? Is it inserted into the Poké Ball? Does some external device convert the CD-ROM to a signal that teaches the Pokémon the move?
@@Mystmon It's like an Evolutionary item, when the Pokemon touches it, it gets the powers from that item. Only difference is that TM's, HM's and TR's are human-made items unlike Evolutionary stones.
My headcanon is that you sit the Pokemon down in front of the Teachy TV you get in Kanto, put the TM in like a DVD, and then they watch a “show” and learn the move
My only thoughts on Pokémon just poofing into existence one day. We know that ultimately didn't happen because we have Fossil Pokémon, and even in the anime, there were the Kanto Fossils who were thousands of years old, they were just asleep. 😅
I think the egg conundrum can be solved by assuming that pokemon have existed since the beginning but due to not understanding one another pokemon and humans didnt get along on a wide scale so eggs and baby pokemon were kept at a diatance except in rare instances where humans and pokemon got along like people having baby pokemon, people having megas etc. Essentially the human pokemon intergration is a failry new thing on a wide scale so Elms discovery isnt necessarily of eggs but how they come about and that pokemon arent mammals
Concerning Ash's strength: First, I wish people would stop thinking Ash has been on this journey for 25+ years. He hasn't. The anime itself has been running all this time, yes. But in story it's only been like 3 or 4 years at best since the kid started his journey. They were even trying to take that into account for a while in the earlier animes and have it sound and look like Ash was starting to grow up a little during the Black/White and X/Y anime arcs. Then, for what ever reason, Pokemon decided to revert Ash back to a 10 year old out of nowhere during Sun and Moon.
Just imagine each episode in the entirety of Ash's Pokemon run being a single day in his life, as the narrator usually says. If we ignore the fact that some episodes span over multiple days, and take into account that there's 1,234 episodes, we can calculate Ash's age from there. There's 365 days in a year. 1,234 days/episodes/365= 3.38 years roughly. You take 10 + 3.38 and you get Ash's age at roughly 13.38, (or 13 and a half to round it nicely) years old. Now, if you want to throw in the extra story-time days it took some episodes to complete, you can probably round it up further to at least 14 or maybe even right around 15 years old.
Just because it took however many years it did to air the episodes in real time doesn't mean that time matches the anime.
Now, that said, I think there's a different reason for Ash's supernatural strength: Ho-oh. That legendary Pokemon was the first ever Ash encountered, and possibly one of the most powerful. I believe Ho-oh endowed Ash with special powers that could enhance his physical abilities based on his bonding levels with his Pokemon when Ho-oh sensed Ash's bond with Pikachu at the start and hence blessed him with a sighing of itself. When that legendary sensed Ash's bond with Pikachu, it deemed him worthy of its special blessing.
Ash was always ten bro what do u mean
Ash didn’t “revert back to being ten” in sun and moon lmao
He just learned how to take a step back chill out and have fun
And if that makes you revert back to being a ten year old then everyone on this planet who has ever had fun is a ten year old
Ash was always ten bro what do u mean
Ash didn’t “revert back to being ten” in sun and moon lmao
He just learned how to take a step back chill out and have fun
And if that makes you revert back to being a ten year old then everyone on this planet who has ever had fun is a ten year old
Also ur just wrong period
The general director of the anime kunihiko iyama already gave us a canon answer why ash doesn’t age
He says “I viewed the anime as a story that captured the feel of a day of summer vacation in one’s childhood of children venturing on a trip into the unknown exploring a world without parents alongside their friends and others who they engage along the way”
“In the setting of the animation the main character ash is forever ten years old and the background season is forever early summer”
“Sometimes it gets cold in the mountains or it could be hot, those changes happen by traveling”
“Fundamentally it is forever early summer and he is forever ten years old and on top of that a day of summer vacation repeats perpetually”
“This is what I hoped to create”
“ a view of the world that would be ideal for children (addlibbed by me: and adults young at heart)”
i don't know why so many ignore 1 detail with Cosmoem... it has levitate!!! so even i can 'carry' a cosmoem... i just hold my hadns under it andd :O am i carying a pokemon weight 999kg?
Bruh the segway to the sponsor made me laugh so much🤣, also when you said the stuff about pokemon just appearing I realized if that were true arceus just would have no reason to exist XD
magcargo's body must have low specific heat capacity therefore it's temperature is high but quantity of heat is still not high enough to be melting anything (science)
Ash just has similar strength to Tao Pai Pai!
I just figured bug types are strong against dark type because bugs thrive at night time
That cool explanation but even in English, dark type is not about literal darkness.
Watching a CZcams video about Pokémon by a channel named hoops and hip hop… sounds fine to me apparently
The thing with Ash is basically Deku from MHA.
A theory for the Egg thing is that Pokemon and Humans didn't trust each other so until recently the trust levels grew to the point where communities of Pokemon allowed humans to discover how they bred and created their children with Elm being the first of many to discover it and he became a professor to examine more of Pokemon in nature and further-in, how eggs were created. It must have been recent too because the day-care people were stunned to discover eggs when pokemon raised there had created them behind their backs so they contacted Elm since he had experience with wild Pokemon. What is also interesting is that Ditto's are found on the same route as the day-care.
In conclusion, the human and Pokemon connections were still in breakthrough phrases and Elm was one of the first to record the connection between eggs and Pokemon and he was one of the few people to understand it.
I never thought I would ever hear Hoopsandhiphop mention Kamen Rider
Absolutely wild
The pokemon egg theory doesn't really work as both in the games and anime pokemon have existed for hundreds if not thousands of years. Centuries upon centuries of over a thousand species existing with and along mankind and not a single human being thought to explore how these creatures reproduced?
I think that eggs were treated like that was just because in gen 2 it was still a completely new game mechanic. In the remakes HeartGold and SoulSilver eggs are considered as something completely normal and it was just this one Togepi egg that was treated as something unusual.
Did anyone else think Mr Mime and Jynx were counterparts and being all male and all female as a kid?
There is one more potential reason ash is so strong. Because he is unintentionally tapping into his aura
I'm more in favor of the theory that humans in the Pokemon world are not like humans in the real world, they live in a world full of Pokemon that would kill normal humans easily even without intention, they are at least Captain America level, with Ash being ridiculous even by their standards.
That thumbnail! Everyone knows that Misty loves Ash. 😎
For the Egg Theory, I would have said that perhaps humans originally thought Pokemon were like themselves and therefore could carry a baby to parturition, only for the advent of Day Care centres along with the compatible egg groups suddenly becoming a factor did people start noticing these eggs appearing. Before then, eggs would have been well guarded by wild pokemon so it was only because the pokemon in Day Cares having been caught and trained were people able to discover their existence.
On TM's, Pokemon can make themselves tiny at will in order to fit inside a pokeball, according to Legends Arceus, so it wouldn't surprise me if they could also glean knowledge from specialised objects. Certain stones, items, etc evolve Pokemon or boost their stats, etc essentially "magically", so it's not a far cry to assume that TM's are also just another one of these objects that Pokemon can interact with in their unique, magical way by just touching them like other objects.
That Log truly loved ash more than all his pokemon combined
I thought Elm discovered baby pokemon and the special method of using incense to breed them, since he gives you an egg that hatches into one of the new baby pokemon
Ash being able to carry Cosmoem means nothing though. It floats. Anyone should be able to move it with ease. Lillie also carries it in her bag in the games, yet no one ever brings that up. Also Ash wasn't able to lift a log in Alola despite being able to do so in Hoenn.
No the real reason why ask is so strong is because he's in the pokemon universe and people are a type of pokemon
You just explained why there was no breeding or eggs in Legends Arceus. They were literally discovering Pokémon that just showed up. They feared the Pokémon potentially for decades. It sounds cannon to me lol
What contradicts your theory on Pokemon being digital is the timelines and how ash's Pikachu can learn Iron Tail without Ash getting a TM.
Maybe Pikachu's electric attacks strengthened Ash's muscles each time they contract.
You probably didn't stress enough the fact that, in generation 1, lickytung does not learn lick...
i mean we dont store the pokemon on a pc we send the pokeballs from a pc to a lab your prof lab like ash used to send from the pc to oak the weird part is how the pokeball dissapear and gets to oak from accros reagions (all this shows in the anime and explain a bit in season 1 when he gets craby)
-one thing that can explain Ash and his bond with pokemon comes from the fact Ash is aura user. he can manipulate aura, just like Lucario line and Greninja as we saw in anime. that can explain why Ash can befriend pokemon and can communicate with them in sort of ways. His physical strenght being massive compared to fact he has body of 10 year old also comes from one Pokemon, Ho-oh to be specific. Ash saw him on his first day of being a trainer and he made a wish so his journey will never end. That's why he seems to never grow and why he kept losing leagues until alola, because one condition for alola league was being eleven years old. Ash wanted to participate and thus breaking wish/spell Ho-oh gave him. if we use timestamps in anime that are directly said, Ash would be around 21-22 years old during Journey series.
-thing about pokemon being in PC. In anime we can see that Ash had to call proffesor Oak whenever he needed some pokemon and we can watch in every start and end of series that Ash come to Oak's ranch and his pokemon spend time on fields, forest lakes etc. TMs can be really described as tutorial manual video(doesnt make sence why they were one time use till gen 6 onward but ok)
Dude that ad segway KILLLLLLEEEEDDDD ME 🤣🤣🤣
I thought the cosmoem thing was Cosmoem floats around under it's own power.
Someone in XY says that pokémon eggs aren't true eggs but are more akin to cradles. That would answer a hell of a lot more than "y no egg"
When it comes to anything with superhuman powers, magics, skills, or abilities - and why characters aren’t dying left and right specifically - I usually chalk it up to genetics. After lifetimes of people being exposed to and having endure and survive against the things that Pokémon can do, eventually, your average human has become one who can live through what would formerly mean death for them. We see it throughout the anime with Team Rocket being blown up in a number of ways, Ash being burned and shocked constantly, Professor Oak being smothered in poisonous slime, and even Ash’s own mother and neighbors being fine after all being shocked by Pikachu in the first episode.
I’d like to add one. I’ve known a lot of people to scratch their heads on how a pile of eggs becomes a palm tree. I know the answer to this! It’s not a palm tree but instead a Cycad. (They look like palms but are actually more closely related to pines) but specifically there’s one genus native to south and Central America called Dioon and their cones look like eggs (which is where the genus gets the name.)
Explain this: Pokemon come out of eggs....but still have navels. We know this due to Oshawott and Incineroar.
😂 I just imagine mew visiting earth seeing all the humans chilling and as they sleep it just creates all of these massively over powered creatures that control elements then just dips 😂
Can't believe you missed that 18,000F isn't that hot... and isn't even the hottest thing that occurs in real life. Lightning Strikes are hotter then 18,000F. The surface of the sun is no where near the temperature of its core or its corona which are the actual hot parts. The suffer is a frozen wasteland in comparison.
TMs were created by Enrico Pucci using Whitesnake. They contain Pokemon's memories of moves and allow them to be transferred into other Pokemon
I fully agree and believe I have heard from data leaks or concept art that pokemon are digital and the disk is data provided top them. It is also canon that the way they fit in the pokeballs is because they can shrink themselves. WILD.
The novelization was made before we got the arceus lore so it’s probably not canon anymore
It was never canon, really
@@BJGvideosit used to be
@@madnessarcade7447 No, it was Shudo's weird ramblings
I’m a big toku fan, but I never made that connection about Bug beating Dark. As soon as you mentioned Kamen Rider (you hadn’t even finished the explanation), though, it clicked.
Game Freak references toku with this series quite a bit, actually. Besides surface-stuff like Tyrannitar looking like Godzilla and the various moth Pokemon that take after Mothra, you’ve got Zubat. It has the same name in Japanese, and it was likely named after Kaiketsu Zubat, another toku series that was similar to Kamen Rider. If it was just the name, it’d be nothing of note, just a play on “bat” and “zubatto” (a Zabanese onomatopoeia for a direct hit). Put in the context of the guys who made it, though (Japanese Baby Boomers and Gen Xers who grew up with this stuff) and the other references they made, it’s a bit hard not to see a connection.
I always just explained lick being ghost type as: if you lick someone your creepy and ghosts are creepy
The manga describes being able to go into your pokedex and cancel evolution that way, similar to the games. Withthat in mind, couldn't you just insert the disk into the pokedex and teach them the moves that way?
For Cosmoem, it floats in place, I don’t think physical strength is relevant there. But the other feats of strength don’t get that easy explanation.
Ash has done a lot of traveling on foot and trains with his Pokémon, so I can accept he’s in peak physical condition for his age, but that doesn’t make him super human.
If pokemon originally came out earlier than the 90s, I bet TMs would be floppy discs.
I think TMs are inserted into or scanned by the pokeballs. Pokemon aren't data but they have a unique ability to transform into data and back that humans dont. They are data when they are in the pokeballs and PCs.
My explanation for Ash's strength is that all along he's really been a "secret" isekai protagonist. We all know at the beginning of the anime he made his wish...well what happened was he was transported to an alt world. Just so happens it was an alt world/reality basically identical to his own expect he can stay young and go adventuring forever and ever. But anyone who knows isekai's know they pretty always come with cheat abilities, so I think Ash just got some crazy general stat boosting ability. Maybe tied into his everlasting youth or whatever. Yep, Pokemon is really a damn isekai all along...
I just figured ash’s strength was a result of unconscious use of aura
I think I saw in the anime that ash used a TM by playing the CD in a player a voice instruction played.
6:28 NidoQueen is furious
Something to add to the magcargo body temperature conversation in as simple terms as possible. Basically the higher the temperature the harder it is for it to spread, and it remains concentrated in one point
Ash's father is Bruno, who is one of the most jacked dudes in the Pokémon world. Ash therefore has incredible genetics predisposing him to being strong.
Realistically, the anime team just forgets pokemon weights. Trying to justify every animation error is an exercise in futility. For every instance of Ash lifting a 200 lb Pokemon with ease, there are dozens of instances where he struggles to lift a moderately heavy (say less than 50lbs) object.
Ah a man of culture I see knowing the existence of Kamen rider
Gens 1 and 2 were very different from modern pokemon, so it's not that weird that they poofed into existence. Elephants existed back then too. It was literally our world.
Macargo wasn't explained right cuz if someone uses cut, or anything slicing move, his insides are exposed, and that heat is on display
Explains why shellder could be a gastly because of its tongue
I already knew about Lick. My theory on TMs is that, the information on the disc is beamed to the Pokémon through its Pokeball in a similar way to how Pokémon (which are not digital except for Porygon line) can be transferred into digital data and stored on in PC boxes.
I never thought pokemon would comment on ash’s strength but holy crap!
Ash is actually a Pokémon human hybrid that’s why he has abilities, EV and IV stats 👀 lol
Ash was hypertrained with a gold bottle cap
I doubt the games are 30 years old because if they where then I be a year older
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Ok, if Pokemon were still new in gen 2 so Elm could be the first to discover pokemon eggs, that would suggest that for over 200 years, no one found a pokemon egg. Because in Legemds Arceus, Pokemon are still relatively new, and that's the whole point of the game. But in the 200 years between LA to Gen 2, no one ever found a pokemon egg? I'm not so sure about that one. What do you think?
Wait in gen 1 Lickitung doesn't learn lick?
I always thought Ash's physical strength was due to his Aura abilities
who knows, maybe Ash is Psychic and he doesn't really carry anything, might be telekinetic powers, after all, some says said Ash was in a coma, dreaming and in a dream we can have any powers that exist in movies and cartoons, like flying, teleportation, telekinetic powers, telepathy. But your theory is way better than mine even if I might be right, who knows
Wait...lickitung doesnt get lick in gen 1?!?
Doesn't the idea that Pokemon just spawned in before Red/Blue kind of get debunked by the idea that they were around 100 years ago in the Hisui Region? Magenrna is supposed to be ancient too.
Then explain why Lickitung couldn't learn lick, it's based on a licking yokai. Save for the normal typing it should have learned that move.