normally that line gets me to laugh but damn, now that you pointed it out i cant see it the same way anymore. imagine having friends in a relationship who caused the group so much distress that they had physical reactions to arguments that didnt even involve them like crying or fainting... especially in high school. every time i see another video about this show it continues to blow my mind how fucked things were.
@@citrus7745 exactly, and we know that Cat's home life wasn't very good, but they just drag her into situations that would remind her of that without a second thought. She's having a full on panic attack and they just keep screaming at her.
@@andreas.222 The gist of it is, Cat's brother was mentally ill and constantly getting into dangerous situations(ie "I love Japan! Except my brother got stabbed there." and "my brother got shot by a clown.") so her parents were much more focused on her then him. Not only that, but her parents were constantly arguing over how to deal with her brother, which terrified her. She was ignored most of the time but then dragged into arguments that she didn't want to be a part of, which she avoided by hiding under her bed(Hence the "im under my bed! Im under my bed!" line). It's also believed that her air-headedness may be a coping mechanism, as well as the possibility that she may also be mentally ill due to the "My hair colour has nothing to do with my mental problems!" line.
@@celiatyree3658 it was *meant* to be comedy, but was it funny? Should we really look at someone having a panic attack and fainting from it and go LMAO THATS SO FUNNY AHVSKSQJVSUQ
@@hugnboba Comedy can be cruel or politically incorrect, in fact it is either one of those at different levels in most instances. Why would you think using caps would give your argument more credibility btw lol
Yes but you have to remember they were only in high school still figuring out how relationships work it’s not an uncommon thing for high school couples to fight
Looking back on it, it's really sad that Nickelodeon showed children a genuinely toxic and dysfunctional relationship, and undermined it by playing a laugh track behind it. Instead of teaching kids that those situations are unhealthy, they're taught to think it's funny.
That seems to be fairly run of the mill with comedy, especially these days. Most of the popular sitcoms: south park, family guy, American dad and others treat dysfunction and toxic behaviour as something to laugh at.
@@dantegrimm6439 They try to use it as a type of coping mechanism, which in theory is a good thing, you should have a healthy sense of humor where you can laugh at yourself and the more upsetting aspects of the world. But when that's your ENTIRE shtick, then it's not that funny anymore, it's just overly cynical, nasty, and unhealthy. I've seen a lot of people point to Rick and Morty as a show that's overly mean and cynical at times (and I love Rick and Morty btw). You gotta balance your humor, yeah, life sucks, but not *that* much.
@@happyheavenly4200 I'm not disagreeing. But you see the same thing in both adult and children shows, laughing at toxic behaviour. I suppose a better analogy would be later season spongebob some of the episodes come across as mean spirited and we're supposed to laugh at it.
I'm just now realizing that all the dirty jokes that "rex" made were really just robbie, and everyone knew it but acted like it was rex. Like if I was tori I wouldn't be like, "ew rex" I would be like "ew robbie"
I mean it was probably his way of coping. Did you see the episode where he got like really sad when Rex died? The puppet obviously means a lot to him. Maybe Rex is like his version of the “cooler” Robbie.
Everyone knows Rex is like Robbie's persona. Therefore, everyone adress him as such, even when they know it's just Robbie saying things he would never actually say without the puppet
Yeah. What turned me off from iCarly after watching it a few years was about how uncaring the characters could be. Only watched this show a few times. I didn’t like that one iCarly episode her brother gets hurt, they ask about him for a second then go do their dance they do. I don’t get how that’s funny with the severity of what I vaguely remember. I do think he was a good brother to her. I found Disney channel characters more likeable
They're both pretty toxic. Jade seems insecure and dealing with a lot of issues, beck constantly let other girls hit on him and bathed in their attention. He also kissed other girls why they were dating.. you could see why she was insecure
He kissed only Tori and it was for a play... an episode which apparently isn't canon. Then he kissed Tori after breaking up with Jade Edit: i haven't watched Victorious on a while so i started to watch it again and i was wrong. (Taking out the kiss on the play, which it wasn't a true kiss) Beck and Tori never kissed, he never kissed a girl while being with Jade
@@alessandra8230 i never said he wasn't, i only replied to the "he also kissed other girls while they were dating" which is not true. He only kissed Tori and it was for a school play and that's pretty much it. He tried to kiss her much later but after breaking up with Jade
He wasn’t the reason for her insecurity. It was her parents rejection that led her to her unhealthy attachment styles. He never realized how much she depended on him, and never took her as seriously as she did him. It’s not his fault tho - she was never mentally strong enough to communicate this to him. They’re both adolescents with developing frontal cortex’s, and unprocessed trauma it’s unrealistic to expect a healthy relationship from them and it’s irresponsible to place blame on these kids
"Tori's not my friend, I only tolerate Robbie, no one likes Trina, and Cat's basically a pet" BUT EVERYBODY LOVES ANDRE!! EVEN JADE!! even after he spat straight facts into her face!! he's literally the only good character that deserved better smh
I always hated how Jade would get away with being abusive because she's the 'bad girl' stereotype. No one ever calls her out on her behavior because they're afraid of her both physically and mentally. It always rubbed me the wrong way. And referring to Cat as a pet so flippantly solidified that for me.
Jade’s a bully, plain and simple. There’s a difference between being alternative - what they thought they were portraying her as - and a bully - what they actually portrayed her as.
@@LaurenPebble Everyone knows shes a bad person with moments of compassion. most if not all of the characters acknowledges shes a horrible person. So no, they portray her just as she is. Its just that we like her regardless of those, as a character.
@@lol-ot4pn I always fcking hated her. Sure, I’m all for liking characters that are bad people or do bad things for what they bring to the story and for being well-written. Not get deep about a kids show, but Jade isn’t that, she’s just nasty for the sake of being nasty. What exactly is there to like about that?
@@lol-ot4pnthe problem is that y’all defend her when she’s completely in the wrong. And for some reason people feel the need to bring down other characters (ESPECIALLY Tori) to make her look better.
@@kelab4599 I literally said we know shes doing bad things. We acknowledge that. And no, no one group is actively putting tori or anyone down JUST so they can bring Jade up. I like Tori but there is nothing particularly unique or interesting about her ESPECIALLY amongst her group full of weirdos. Shes normal and shes probably my pick if I were to choose a friend but as a favorite character? Now thats a different story.
Are we not going to talk about “the dolphin was just being friendly?” Jade was literally almost SA’d by a sea-animal and is traumatized, and that was just a joke. 💀😭
Beck seems like the kind of boyfriend to let girls flirt with him and when theyre like "why didn't you tell me you had a girlfriend" and he would be like "cause you didn't ask"
He’s totally the type that is addicted to attention, he lightly flirts with everything that moves and then acts so innocent like he didn’t mean to be flirty
@I'mACrazyFreak4Life actually it does real or not they were voted the worst couple when the other couples aren’t real. That’s really really really bad and kinda sad.
@@thisismybrutality5061 well one I didn’t post the comment to argue with anyone. It’s me pointing out a fact. Two, nothing was said in the comment to create an argument. So what are you talking about?
I always hated how jade toxic and abusive behaviour was normalised here just to fit the stereotype of "the bad girl" like everyone was afraid of her but as a child I thought that was cool, but now as an adult I won't even waste a second around someone like her
I know y’all fixing to drag me over this but..I gotta say it; Beck sometimes gaslights jade, he does things that’ll intentionally make her upset/knows she’ll react how she does. Then brushes it off like she’s crazy, or she’s paranoid, or it’s not that big of a deal. (That does not excuse her behavior, or how she acts in those situations). It also explains why the littlest of things set jade off as well. It also is super crappy how beck never really shuts down the female attention/goes out with other girls knowing how jade feels. He also went after tori, despite most likely knowing that jade was still in love with him. It also shows that beck doesn’t love jade as much as she does him. He also kind of doesn’t respect her either if I’m honest with you. I know jade is just as toxic, however some of her toxic behavior is due to the long term side effects of what beck has done. In a way nick showed us a modern day toxic relationship, and an early inside scoop into it too. I wish they explored more of their relationship, and maybe even beck and jade trying out future HEALTHY relationships and seeing how those panned out for them. It just sucks it got canceled so quickly. Aside from icarly, this was the one show that showed actual depth to the characters.
Absolutely no one will drag you for this, consensus is theyre both toxic. Jade is just more showy about it. Beck completely lacks empathy for Jade and gaslights the shit out of her whenever she brings up an issue with their relationship. Sure, she does it aggressively and it’s a terrible approach, but he knows her and he knows that’s what he signed up for. He still doesn’t take time to see things from her point of view. Any issue she has is either neglected or her fault, while all of his issues are valid and still her fault. He lets girls come onto him all the time just for the attention which is terrible to do to someone’s girlfriend. Jade is overbearing, nasty, and controlling, but Beck is apathetic, egocentric and just as controlling. Neither should be in a relationship at all, let alone with each other.
In Sam and Cat she lives with her Nona instead of her parents. I’m guessing because her parent divorced and she didn’t want to stay with either one or something.
she was emotionally, and sexually abused by her family and brother when she was growing up. like she said before her brother is crazy, and he abuses his family mostly towards cat. also her brother cracked a vase over her head thats why her hairs red cause she liked the color, everyone on victorious was neglected by their parents or guardian. so basically victorious is about gifted teensvin a highschool sooo... :P
As much as I love Jade...yeah her relationship with Beck was genuinely abusive, to the point where the show got close to romanticizing it. Seriously every time they break up I'm like FINALLY-
beck: lets other girls flirt with him without saying he has a girlfriend to inflate his ego; hid talking to alyssa vaughn from jade because he knew she wouldn't like it; degrades jade for calling him out for this stuff; tried to kiss his ex's friend; makes remarks about jade being his crazy gf behind her back jade: degrades beck for caring about his appearance; overly jealous a lot; verbally abusive; yells and raises her voice at beck; forces other people into their relationship problems; threatens to dump beck to get her way; treats becks friends like shit honestly the list for both of them goes on. beck and jade are both horrible to each other and the fact that its never addressed in the show as being wrong is such a bad message to teenagers who are in relationships or want to be - especially when everyone treats them like "goals" and acts like jade is the ideal woman to be/be with. i wish beck and jade had actually discussed these issues and agreed to work on them rather than just coming back together because they missed each other. i also dont really like jade much just because she's a bitch for the sake of comedic relief or being cool. a lot of people idolize that behavior and in reality shes a very toxic person.
Are we just gonna ignore Cat saying, "just pretend I'm under my bed", during Beck and Jade's screaming match? Because that's some pretty dark shit right there.
let’s not forget Beck is also a toxic boyfriend here, allowing girls to flirt and touch all over him and then not wanting to understand how that made Jade feel so...
He can't control others, Jade is really harsh to him and they left Cat and that was really selfish And I don't like manipulative and controlling partners and really jealous,its annoying and toxic and unhealthy
As much as this show made my childhood, it really hasn't aged well in a lot of ways. And now that I'm older I see how poorly the toxic stuff is handled.
iam 99% it was intended, to show people the dangers of a toxic relationship/abuse. just becuse something is ment for kids does it not mean that has be all sugar, sunshine, and rainbows.
@@thedisabledviking i mean they even had a shovel in jades back car. When jade drove tori for a ride beck to school. She was in the dessert amd singed a creepy song. While there was no signal there tori jumped out of the car Jade said maybe next time. It was kinda funny for a show but also creepy as an adult now. Like they did portry jade as a serial killer in that show wanting to burry and kill tori. Lets be real what was that scene even doing there
The scene with Cat having an anxiety attack while Beck and Jade argue before fainting while the laugh track goes nuts is up there as one of the most uncomfortable and thoughtless moments I've ever seen from a children's show. I've never liked this scene, not even as a kid. I've been known to get very anxious or emotional when others around me are either angry or shouting, sometimes not even at me, and that's only grown worse overtime as those things, along with sudden loud noises, are huge triggers for my anxiety and I will begin to have a panic attack if the circumstances are bad enough (I've been frequently having panic attacks actually). Both of these triggers are present within this scene and are played for laughs, and it's just plain wrong. "It's just a kids show," It's not that deep," "Stop taking it so seriously," no. I don't care if this is a kids show, that's precisely the problem. I don't need my shows to be sunshine and lollipops all of the time, but I personally think that having a very realistic panic attack due to common triggers and obvious trauma, having it result in said character having a panic attack LITERALLY PASSING OUT, having a laugh track over it, all the while acting it out with real people is indescribably careless, especially combined with a lot of other things this show tries to teach. If you do not think that this scene is weird, at the very least, I genuinely wanna know why aside from "it's a comedy."
It's sad how her safe space is under her bed, that's where she wants to be in times of distress and that brakes my heart💔 Acting like an "air head" and young is a coping macinisum for some people, it makes them feel safe and let's them forget about their reality. She seems like such a sweet person but she goes through so much hurt...
Antisocial Angel if you think they’re a cute couple switch the roles, beck being the over-controlling one and jade being the push-over everyone would label beck as an abuser but since it’s jade omgggg they’re such goals awwwwdjejbegdv
@@moonundernostalgia not to offend anyone here but... do you think people in abusive relationships don't have some "cute moments"? There are literally so many stories of abusive couples who would even hit their life partners and then apologize and do "something nice" for them to forget them and stay together, I mean, Jade and Beck relationship never reached that extreme, but like, some "cute moments" don't mean you have a good, healthy, or meaningful relationship, specially when the base of your relationship is a constant state of mistrust, jealousy, and manipulative behavior. I'm just saying.
Me at 13 years old: I hope they get back together, they should stop fighting! Me now at 19: for the love of god, they need to break up or go to couple’s therapy.
I genuinely felt so bad for Cat in the closest sene- she seems to have some real tough backstory loar due to things like that that she does throughout the show
Here’s my question: if Jade hated being a part of their little friend group so much, (not including Andre) why was she in it? Doesn’t she have other friends who tolerate her weirdness?
Beck was part of the friend group so Jade's stuck with them regardless, and she keeps hiding that she actually cares towards them despite her mean attitude.
Now that I think about this, some of these characters lives were pretty dark for a kid’s show. I mean Jade had her dad who never showed her any sort of love or affection and thought her dreams were stupid. Cat has her mentally unstable brother so her parents probably pay a lot more attention to him then her which could explain why she was an airhead. Andre has his grandmother he has to take care of now since she became so crazy (which in my opinion is kinda sad). Robbie has his puppet and even though he’s funny, it kinda seems like the puppet is expressing his deep dark inner thoughts which explains why he carries it around all the time. Tori and Trina just have awful parents. And Idk what to say for Beck but yeah, this show is a bit dark.
Beck lives in an RV parked in his parents driveway because he doesnt want to follow their rules idk that has to say something about their relationship but I'm probably just reading into it too much
@@saimahramen If the show would of continued, i bet it would of unravelled. They all had history and issues before Tori and Trina joined the school. They didn't just magically begin having issues when they joined, so I wish the show wasn't cancelled, because we could of easily found out more-
@@Mari_star_light yeah, that's the thing, you shouldn't justify someone for being an asshole just because he's in highschool. Believe me, he's old enough to know you shouldn't do that if you're in a relationship
That shows she has trust issues, and they could both communicate more. Just talking to someone isnt giving them attention or flirting. In adult relationships you trust, you arent possessive. Their relationship is awful and they need alot of counseling.
Right it used to piss me off he never opened his mouth whenever a girl was flirting with him, and even when Tori kissed him he could have told her no but he didn't do anything about it
Bruh basically Jade only likes Andre 😂 she said nothing bad about him **Edit: Since some people can't comprehend and need to be rude, I obviously meant that Jade likes Andre in a friend way. Y'all dont need to be rude it's just a show..**
The scene with Cat and them in the closet really touched me. Cat was obviously triggered by them arguing, implying that she had PTSD from her parents arguing. Very subtle writing.
violet & tate, joe & beck, blair & chuck, damon & elena: lol we're a toxic unhealthy relationship beck and jade: hold my hollywood arts acceptance letter
growing up means truly realising how messed up beck and jade were as a couple and that their characters only got developed after their break up. they legit became better people and friends to the others when they weren't together and I cannot believe Nickelodeon deluded us into believing they were 'couple goals' for so long
Obviously it's not okay for jade to be that jealous, but beck also had NO business letting girls openly flirt with him, touch him, and he even tried to kiss tori! All I'm saying is it's not like jade is jealous for no reason 👀
link199100 but their in high school. I get that’s what actors do, but that wasn’t fair to jade. He knows how she reacts to things, so why put yourself in a situation like that.
@@someoneunknown7655 Yeah literally. Her character throughout the show often shows signs of deep-rooted abuse. And then the laugh track is added and everyone's like "what a fun show for kids hahaha". Ugh.
If the show continued, we could have explored Cat's character more in-depth. I'm curious of why she behaves a certain way. What kind of family did she grew up in? I'm aware that I might be over-analyzing this. But it just shows I'm interested in your comment. Your response is cool :)
@@UltimateJM_22 and I'm only suggesting that because the counselor (can't remember his name) didn't seem remotely surprised and because Schneider was clearly infatuated with Ariana in some way. Poor Ariana was sexualized on that show in a hella creepy way.
Cat has a bipolar disorder, Tori and Trina's mom cheats on the dad, Andre's grandma is mentally unstable, Jade and Beck are toxic, and during Trina's audition Schowitz was basically high And this is supposed to be a kid's show
Elizabeth Ama tbh i feel like cat acts the way she does because of her brother, since her brother is clearly mentally unstable she may lack attention from her parents, which causes her to act like a child to get the attention from her friends that her parents didn't give her
Ah the janitors closet. Doesn't matter which teen show you're watching, the characters spend at least 30% of the entire series talking in a janitors closet
They weren’t together when she kissed moose. Also, beck tried to kiss tori. Beck kisses tori. Let every girl flirt with him. Went on a date with meridith when they weren’t together. Also she probably only did it to “beat” cat and tori bc they all wanted him.
I don't really know why, but i do understand her. Maybe by saying: "You could look worse if you wanted" she said that he's attractive but he didn't say it back... Or that she doesn't consider herself attractive enough for him, so she's ugly (but she's pretty, actually)... Well you know... GIRLS🤪🤯🤩🤗😍🥰😂😊😁
Kawaii Cat Squishes! UVU Robbie betrayed his friends with that Robbie-paparazzi show, ruined Trina’s performance, and was really weird and creepy towards people.
“im under my bed i’m under my bed i’m under my bed” dang that was kind of a dark Cat moment edit: I’ve been watching these compilation videos of Victorious for a day or two now and I never realized how actually dark and depressive a lot of the material is in this show. It’s all covered up by the laugh tracks and editing and the fact that it’s a kids show, but still. I never caught a lot of things I guess when I was 11-12 cause of the laugh track.
Peach Juice finally someone else caught on to this, beck literally bathed in attention from other girls and didn’t reject not one of them (besides trina) if anything Jade had every right to be upset most times she was.
And in one episode where he offers Tori a ride to school, she finds out that several other girls just show up to his house to ask for a ride. And he just lets them come to school with him, not minding if they get touchy or obnoxious. He didn't even stop the girls from fighting with Tori in the car. Jade's jealousy is very understandable.
0:55 What we see happening to Cat is PTSD. She probably went through a traumatic expierence and used age regression as a coping method. Age regression is where after something traumatic happens, they go back to a age where they were happy. This is used to cope. She’s have a PTSD panic attack from the arguing and shouting.
I believe someone already pointed this out, but realize how Cat starts having a breakdown and imagines she’s “under her bed” when Jade and Beck start fighting. That coupled with what we know with Cat’s brother.. Her childhood was probably not the best. It’s safe to say that her air headedness might be a self-defense mechanism of some sort that she adopted. If you look at the first season, you see that she’s easily irritable and quick to think that everyone is thinking negatively of her by default. Her family was obviously dysfunctional. *EDIT:* Was going to ignore, but no shiitake it’s just a tv show? It’s fun to make theories about shows and it’s characters. *2* I don’t know why people are getting so defensive about this comment _cough_ Lana Banana _cough._ No doubt in my mind the writers had not put this much thought into it. So what? How does a theory hurt you? You could almost say this comment is... not that deep.. (=^▽^)σ *Oh Gosh Please Stop Adding Edits Me:* This is the most chaotic thread I’ve ever had. The literal personification of sitting in a room on fire and sipping tea, “this is fine.” Also I apologized to Lana for people attacking her and she didn’t even say “it’s okay” or at least a “frik off” smhh. (tHis iS a jOke nO mOre wArS PleAsE.) For real though, the banter was fun, but let’s chill out, okay? Honestly let’s just enjoy this chaotic neutral show, whether you want to “think deep” or stay for the memes. If you disagree with it, that’s alright. Aight, Imma bout to head out,,
It's a TV show character, it's not that deep Edit: you don't know anything about psychology or mental diseases so I don't know why you're acting like you do. It's a nickelodeon original, she's acting like that for comedy. You're reading too much into this Edit 2: no shit it's not that deep, I said it in my comment. You really thought you did something there, didn't you? Get some more braincells babes ❤️❤️❤️😘😘😘
That's good theory! With Victorious there are a lot of hidden messages with the way the characters act. But since it's a kids show they need to keep it Pg in a way. People say that Rex is all the feelings and bullying Robbie has dealt with in one puppet. People say that Cat's brother is the reason for her being mentally "unstable." People also say that Jade would've been a lesbian if this wasn't a Nick show, since scissors are constantly being brought up. I'm not sure, but I find all of this stuff interesting.
Beck and Jade are the most unrealistic couple you'll ever see on TV. There is ZERO chemistry between the two and that's not the fault of the actors, Liz and Avan play well but as a couple they seem completely inauthentic. Why would Beck, who is portrayed as someone who could have ANY girl he wants and who also has a very stable personality and a really nice character, be with a girl who is in a bad mood literally every day, yells at him all the time AND is basically unkind to everyone else? You'd have to have pretty damn low self-esteem to be with someone like that, and that's exactly not the case with Beck (if anything, it's with Robbie), and as if a goth girl like Jade would be interested in a guy like Beck who is portrayed as a pretty boy.
Yeah. Dan might as well have said on any of the episodes "We won't have Beck go with Tori due to a talented and hot guy going with a talented and hot girl being too cliché. A perfect guy with a perfect girl". Even if there was some unexplained drama and/or trauma that happened, a guy would get tired of a girl like that, and reasonably so.
She was the toxic one in the relationship, no matter what beck did, it wasn't good enough for her, why he stayed with her as long as he did is beyond me, why would any man stay with someone as toxic as her
i think that the main problem is that if you showcase that this type of behavior is funny or normal in a relationship children will just normalize toxic relationships, it doesn’t take a psychology degree to see how problematic they are.
And people still act like their relationship is “relationship goals”. It goes to show the maturity level of those who watch the show and think their relationship is one to model their own after…
I wish they’d expanded on Andre/ jade after jade and beck broke up. Jade was always insecure around beck and he fueled her insecurities. I think she would’ve been a lot calmer with andre
i still have no idea why beck wouldn’t leave jade. they’re always fighting. they both needed a LONG break from each other but just kept going with a relationship.
Well actually he did. He just realized later on that even if theyre toxic, theres no girl that would be perfect for him other than Jade. Just like how people nowadayas do right? Even if theres so much wtong between you and your partner, the love is the only that binds you together
yeah but she's just like every other girl with a cheating boyfriend who blames other girls and never him and it's annoying, she rarely says anything to him about it and just gets mad at other girls over it, as if it's their job to not cheat on her and not his
@Phuck You 1. Love your username 2. They aren’t the greatest couple. And probably shouldn’t be a couple. They both have problems but I still think that’s what kind of started it.
IcyPopsicle and he always lets girls all over him, he clearly likes the attention. also beck tried to kiss tori again in Tori Goes Platinum and Tori disagrees, showing that Jade should be mad at Beck and not always the other girls
*Jade literally being abusive* the Fandom: "BUT BECK LETS GIRLS FLIRT WITH HIM!?!?" really though, yall accept abusive behavior from women and blame victims, male or female but especially male. If jade was a man and beck was a woman yall would hate jade.
So in Sam & Cat there is a character named Goomer, he is one of the main characters besides Sam and Cat. Goomer shows up in an episode of Henry Danger as the sidekick to a villain called Frankini. In that episode Goomer says "I used to hang out with Frankini's sister a lot." Since Sam has never mentioned having a brother (only her twin sister, Melanie) we are led to believe that Frankini is Cat's brother. Idk just a little detail I noticed.
@@theblueplatypus_exe2728 but that's just cause it was Ariana's brother acting, Cat always mentioned how insane her brother was to the point her parents had to take him to mental hospital and stay for 3 years or something...
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"It makes Cat faint and sometimes makes Robbie cry." Is some how hysterically funny and horrifyingly sad at the same time
normally that line gets me to laugh but damn, now that you pointed it out i cant see it the same way anymore. imagine having friends in a relationship who caused the group so much distress that they had physical reactions to arguments that didnt even involve them like crying or fainting... especially in high school. every time i see another video about this show it continues to blow my mind how fucked things were.
@@citrus7745 exactly, and we know that Cat's home life wasn't very good, but they just drag her into situations that would remind her of that without a second thought. She's having a full on panic attack and they just keep screaming at her.
@@ase5877 Sorry, I haven't seen this show since 2015 lol, could explain to me what happened to Cat? Or give me a link or something please, I'm sorry
@@andreas.222 The gist of it is, Cat's brother was mentally ill and constantly getting into dangerous situations(ie "I love Japan! Except my brother got stabbed there." and "my brother got shot by a clown.") so her parents were much more focused on her then him. Not only that, but her parents were constantly arguing over how to deal with her brother, which terrified her. She was ignored most of the time but then dragged into arguments that she didn't want to be a part of, which she avoided by hiding under her bed(Hence the "im under my bed! Im under my bed!" line). It's also believed that her air-headedness may be a coping mechanism, as well as the possibility that she may also be mentally ill due to the "My hair colour has nothing to do with my mental problems!" line.
@@ase5877 oh crap, that sounds so sad :( it's incredible how you don't realize this things as a kid. Thanks!
Nobody:
Jade and Beck: being toxic
Nickelodeon: *put laughs*
I just realized that... that some dark sh*t
cat: *faints bc she got too overwhelmed by beck and jade fighting*
nickelodeon: *puts laughs*
ikr! they put laughs when it was a serious situation...
If took out all the laughs and the pause between the laughs. This would be like: •O•
I honestly thought Jade and Tori would make a better couple
Jade and beck: *fighting*
Cat: *possibly having an anxiety attack*
Jade and beck: shes fine *keeps fighting*
Director: *laugh track*
It's a comedy you know
@@celiatyree3658 it was *meant* to be comedy, but was it funny? Should we really look at someone having a panic attack and fainting from it and go LMAO THATS SO FUNNY AHVSKSQJVSUQ
@@hugnboba Comedy can be cruel or politically incorrect, in fact it is either one of those at different levels in most instances. Why would you think using caps would give your argument more credibility btw lol
dark humor exists
@@fawnrot people are allowed to not find things funny you know
You can't ONLY blame Beck and you can't ONLY blame Jade, they both treated each other badly
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@kenyagirly actually there are many people who blame Jade, including me. Unpopular opinion but I find her very overrated
Yes but you have to remember they were only in high school still figuring out how relationships work it’s not an uncommon thing for high school couples to fight
@@FullHouseFan1313
Jade was kinda controlling,not allowing beck to have female friends, thats toxic
Cat: *has a panic attack*
Nickelodeon: LAUGH!!!
Me:.....you heartless monsters.....THAT IS'N EVEN FUNNY! WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SHOW CHILDEREN WITH THAT?!
Maddie Moom yes! I thought they were gonna care when she was panicking when I first watched it and was disgusted when they didn’t care.
They did that when it happened to Tori, too...
@Bail wth no XD
ok but can we talk about how much scared Cat was? I mean she literally had a breakdown when jade and beck were fighting :'/
Yeah, that's so sad :'(
yea she just wanted to try and help :(
Francesca Scaglia
Like a child witnessing her parents arguing :(
Facts poor Cat
She was literally reliving her parents fight.
Looking back on it, it's really sad that Nickelodeon showed children a genuinely toxic and dysfunctional relationship, and undermined it by playing a laugh track behind it. Instead of teaching kids that those situations are unhealthy, they're taught to think it's funny.
That seems to be fairly run of the mill with comedy, especially these days. Most of the popular sitcoms: south park, family guy, American dad and others treat dysfunction and toxic behaviour as something to laugh at.
@@dantegrimm6439 They try to use it as a type of coping mechanism, which in theory is a good thing, you should have a healthy sense of humor where you can laugh at yourself and the more upsetting aspects of the world. But when that's your ENTIRE shtick, then it's not that funny anymore, it's just overly cynical, nasty, and unhealthy. I've seen a lot of people point to Rick and Morty as a show that's overly mean and cynical at times (and I love Rick and Morty btw). You gotta balance your humor, yeah, life sucks, but not *that* much.
@@dantegrimm6439 those are ADULT shows
@@happyheavenly4200 I'm not disagreeing. But you see the same thing in both adult and children shows, laughing at toxic behaviour. I suppose a better analogy would be later season spongebob some of the episodes come across as mean spirited and we're supposed to laugh at it.
fr it wasn’t just victorious too, it was pretty much all of dans shows were like this
I'm just now realizing that all the dirty jokes that "rex" made were really just robbie, and everyone knew it but acted like it was rex. Like if I was tori I wouldn't be like, "ew rex" I would be like "ew robbie"
I mean it was probably his way of coping. Did you see the episode where he got like really sad when Rex died? The puppet obviously means a lot to him. Maybe Rex is like his version of the “cooler” Robbie.
Everyone knows Rex is like Robbie's persona. Therefore, everyone adress him as such, even when they know it's just Robbie saying things he would never actually say without the puppet
Cat: *having a mental breakdown as Jade and Beck scream at each other*
Nickelodeon: *laugh track*
Ehhh panic attack, not mental breakdown
Yeah. What turned me off from iCarly after watching it a few years was about how uncaring the characters could be. Only watched this show a few times. I didn’t like that one iCarly episode her brother gets hurt, they ask about him for a second then go do their dance they do. I don’t get how that’s funny with the severity of what I vaguely remember. I do think he was a good brother to her. I found Disney channel characters more likeable
@@ShainaCilimberg yeah, most shows think its funny to have a violent female character, its not
Akumu Mapping anger always feels bad even if it’s justifiex
Shaina Cilimberg omg yes! Like once they did anything toxic, laugh track! 😒
This is the video that made me realise everyone in this show is emotionally unstable
Specially when Cat was basically panicking when they were arguing. 😔
Everyone except andre
@nct has unlimited members : I think Tori... just has bad parents. 😅 But Robbie definitely has some issues. 😳
I've been binge watching videos like these and honestly,,, Andre was the least crazy out of all of them lmao.
Except Andre, he was secure
Beck should’ve seen the “worst couple” vote coming he literally screamed “I’M NOT HAPPY WITH OUR RELATIONSHIP.” 😂 😅
They're both pretty toxic. Jade seems insecure and dealing with a lot of issues, beck constantly let other girls hit on him and bathed in their attention. He also kissed other girls why they were dating.. you could see why she was insecure
He kissed only Tori and it was for a play... an episode which apparently isn't canon. Then he kissed Tori after breaking up with Jade
Edit: i haven't watched Victorious on a while so i started to watch it again and i was wrong. (Taking out the kiss on the play, which it wasn't a true kiss) Beck and Tori never kissed, he never kissed a girl while being with Jade
@@tai2664 they're both toxic
@@alessandra8230 i never said he wasn't, i only replied to the "he also kissed other girls while they were dating" which is not true. He only kissed Tori and it was for a school play and that's pretty much it. He tried to kiss her much later but after breaking up with Jade
He wasn’t the reason for her insecurity. It was her parents rejection that led her to her unhealthy attachment styles. He never realized how much she depended on him, and never took her as seriously as she did him. It’s not his fault tho - she was never mentally strong enough to communicate this to him. They’re both adolescents with developing frontal cortex’s, and unprocessed trauma it’s unrealistic to expect a healthy relationship from them and it’s irresponsible to place blame on these kids
@@tai2664 if I’m remembering correctly him and tori didn’t kiss after he broke up with jade bc tori felt like she was betraying jade
"Tori's not my friend, I only tolerate Robbie, no one likes Trina, and Cat's basically a pet"
BUT EVERYBODY LOVES ANDRE!! EVEN JADE!! even after he spat straight facts into her face!! he's literally the only good character that deserved better smh
My boy Robbie deserved better even though he has issues 😂
@@doctoc1334 robbie is imp the best character
zoinks zoinks Facts
Aside from the episode where he gets his own show by exploiting his friends. The other idiosyncrasies I can live with, but that was inexcusable.
JoyT16 Meh, like they don’t ridicule him every day 😂 I found that episode hilarious in my opinion
Honestly I feel like Andre was the best friend. He was honest and kind to everyone. Basically in my opinion the best character
Appley Juice couldn’t agree more 🙌🏾✨
Except for Robbie 😂
The fact Jade said nothing about him is proof
andre is a lej
@@alanjenkinsiii148 yes
I always hated how Jade would get away with being abusive because she's the 'bad girl' stereotype. No one ever calls her out on her behavior because they're afraid of her both physically and mentally. It always rubbed me the wrong way. And referring to Cat as a pet so flippantly solidified that for me.
Jade’s a bully, plain and simple. There’s a difference between being alternative - what they thought they were portraying her as - and a bully - what they actually portrayed her as.
@@LaurenPebble
Everyone knows shes a bad person with moments of compassion.
most if not all of the characters acknowledges shes a horrible person.
So no, they portray her just as she is. Its just that we like her regardless of those, as a character.
@@lol-ot4pn I always fcking hated her. Sure, I’m all for liking characters that are bad people or do bad things for what they bring to the story and for being well-written. Not get deep about a kids show, but Jade isn’t that, she’s just nasty for the sake of being nasty. What exactly is there to like about that?
@@lol-ot4pnthe problem is that y’all defend her when she’s completely in the wrong. And for some reason people feel the need to bring down other characters (ESPECIALLY Tori) to make her look better.
@@kelab4599
I literally said we know shes doing bad things.
We acknowledge that.
And no, no one group is actively putting tori or anyone down JUST so they can bring Jade up.
I like Tori but there is nothing particularly unique or interesting about her ESPECIALLY amongst her group full of weirdos. Shes normal and shes probably my pick if I were to choose a friend but as a favorite character? Now thats a different story.
Are we not going to talk about “the dolphin was just being friendly?” Jade was literally almost SA’d by a sea-animal and is traumatized, and that was just a joke. 💀😭
Why are you assuming it was SA? Maybe he almost drowned her or smt
@@ShaiLai It's just easy to jump to that given its a dolphin and the word "friendly", though drowning's also an option
@@ShaiLai dolphins are pretty known for SAing humans. they're not cool.
Beck seems like the kind of boyfriend to let girls flirt with him and when theyre like "why didn't you tell me you had a girlfriend" and he would be like "cause you didn't ask"
Mikayla Clemons lmfaoooo right😂😂
@amanda kenya Nobody’s defending Beck...?
amanda kenya girl you already commented this on someone else’s comment and no ones defending him literally no one💀✌🏻
He’s totally the type that is addicted to attention, he lightly flirts with everything that moves and then acts so innocent like he didn’t mean to be flirty
@amanda kenya comment that in a thread where people are defending beck??? this one is chill and on the same page :)
Jade: Cat is basically a pet
Cat: “barks like a dog”
Irony
@Caleb Mayfield Her name is Cat but she barks when Jade referred to her as a pet.
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Never heard cat bark never heard a puppy pur
"Tori's not my friend, I only tolerate Robbie, no one likes Trina and Cat's basically a pet."
Notice she never said anything about Andre.
I say that all the time when I watch that scene it really says a lot when you think about it.
Andre is the only mentally stable person out of all of them.
He's also the most decent, kind-hearted person too.
Andre's the best
He was used to unstable persons cause of his grandma
@@sw9439 ANDREEEEEE
Tori too
tori's pretty stable actually.
To be voted worst couple when they’re the only real couple in a game show is really really really bad.
@I'mACrazyFreak4Life actually it does real or not they were voted the worst couple when the other couples aren’t real. That’s really really really bad and kinda sad.
no shit Sherlock
@@lanbee9116 somebody woke up on the wrong side of the bed
@stationkidd When it's fake then you shouldn't have an argument against that. Because your comment is irrelevant.
@@thisismybrutality5061 well one I didn’t post the comment to argue with anyone. It’s me pointing out a fact. Two, nothing was said in the comment to create an argument. So what are you talking about?
Cat: *Literally mcfreaking Dies*
Nickelodeon: *Laugh track*
I always hated how jade toxic and abusive behaviour was normalised here just to fit the stereotype of "the bad girl" like everyone was afraid of her but as a child I thought that was cool, but now as an adult I won't even waste a second around someone like her
I know y’all fixing to drag me over this but..I gotta say it;
Beck sometimes gaslights jade, he does things that’ll intentionally make her upset/knows she’ll react how she does. Then brushes it off like she’s crazy, or she’s paranoid, or it’s not that big of a deal. (That does not excuse her behavior, or how she acts in those situations). It also explains why the littlest of things set jade off as well. It also is super crappy how beck never really shuts down the female attention/goes out with other girls knowing how jade feels. He also went after tori, despite most likely knowing that jade was still in love with him. It also shows that beck doesn’t love jade as much as she does him. He also kind of doesn’t respect her either if I’m honest with you.
I know jade is just as toxic, however some of her toxic behavior is due to the long term side effects of what beck has done. In a way nick showed us a modern day toxic relationship, and an early inside scoop into it too. I wish they explored more of their relationship, and maybe even beck and jade trying out future HEALTHY relationships and seeing how those panned out for them. It just sucks it got canceled so quickly. Aside from icarly, this was the one show that showed actual depth to the characters.
Absolutely no one will drag you for this, consensus is theyre both toxic. Jade is just more showy about it. Beck completely lacks empathy for Jade and gaslights the shit out of her whenever she brings up an issue with their relationship. Sure, she does it aggressively and it’s a terrible approach, but he knows her and he knows that’s what he signed up for. He still doesn’t take time to see things from her point of view. Any issue she has is either neglected or her fault, while all of his issues are valid and still her fault. He lets girls come onto him all the time just for the attention which is terrible to do to someone’s girlfriend. Jade is overbearing, nasty, and controlling, but Beck is apathetic, egocentric and just as controlling. Neither should be in a relationship at all, let alone with each other.
@amanda kenya Nah. Beck gas lit Jade major with the dolphin thing. They both are bad for each other. Jade just shows it on the surface a lot more.
amanda kenya You’re over here talking about Jade being our favorite character so we defend her n shit but look at you
Francesca Cannon yes they were
exactly. i never really liked him that much he seemed distant from most people.
"I'm under my bed, I'm under my bed, I'm under my bed" that's actually really sad, especially knowing that Cat's household isn't very good
@@Mitchell_Kirkbride69 No, She was used to her parents arguing all the time
And a brother who was insane
@@Mitchell_Kirkbride69 I-
In Sam and Cat she lives with her Nona instead of her parents. I’m guessing because her parent divorced and she didn’t want to stay with either one or something.
she was emotionally, and sexually abused by her family and brother when she was growing up. like she said before her brother is crazy, and he abuses his family mostly towards cat. also her brother cracked a vase over her head thats why her hairs red cause she liked the color, everyone on victorious was neglected by their parents or guardian. so basically victorious is about gifted teensvin a highschool sooo... :P
As much as I love Jade...yeah her relationship with Beck was genuinely abusive, to the point where the show got close to romanticizing it.
Seriously every time they break up I'm like FINALLY-
beck: lets other girls flirt with him without saying he has a girlfriend to inflate his ego; hid talking to alyssa vaughn from jade because he knew she wouldn't like it; degrades jade for calling him out for this stuff; tried to kiss his ex's friend; makes remarks about jade being his crazy gf behind her back
jade: degrades beck for caring about his appearance; overly jealous a lot; verbally abusive; yells and raises her voice at beck; forces other people into their relationship problems; threatens to dump beck to get her way; treats becks friends like shit
honestly the list for both of them goes on. beck and jade are both horrible to each other and the fact that its never addressed in the show as being wrong is such a bad message to teenagers who are in relationships or want to be - especially when everyone treats them like "goals" and acts like jade is the ideal woman to be/be with. i wish beck and jade had actually discussed these issues and agreed to work on them rather than just coming back together because they missed each other.
i also dont really like jade much just because she's a bitch for the sake of comedic relief or being cool. a lot of people idolize that behavior and in reality shes a very toxic person.
jordan
Are we just gonna ignore Cat saying, "just pretend I'm under my bed", during Beck and Jade's screaming match? Because that's some pretty dark shit right there.
Imani Kimani I wish we could see into Cat’s family life. Some of the things she says 😅
It’s like she’s involved in to some kind of family fight between her parents or something
NO ONE IS IGNORING THAT THERE ARE LITERALLY DOZENS OF PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT IT
Imani Kimani There is a lot of dark shit that Cat has said, so it’s really nothing new
it's the only thing in this comment section no one is ignoring it🤦🏾♂️😂😂😂😂
let’s not forget Beck is also a toxic boyfriend here, allowing girls to flirt and touch all over him and then not wanting to understand how that made Jade feel so...
spawkle ok and jade is always trying to start a fixing argument for no reason
Fresha Vocado they said also for a reason, just to show jade is not the only one whose wrong or toxic in the relationship.
@amanda kenya Don't you know how to read? She was just saying that both of them are toxic not only Jade. So what's your problem?
amanda kenya lmfao imagine getting so worked up over an imaginary character
He can't control others, Jade is really harsh to him and they left Cat and that was really selfish
And I don't like manipulative and controlling partners and really jealous,its annoying and toxic and unhealthy
As much as this show made my childhood, it really hasn't aged well in a lot of ways. And now that I'm older I see how poorly the toxic stuff is handled.
iam 99% it was intended, to show people the dangers of a toxic relationship/abuse. just becuse something is ment for kids does it not mean that has be all sugar, sunshine, and rainbows.
@@thedisabledviking i mean they even had a shovel in jades back car. When jade drove tori for a ride beck to school.
She was in the dessert amd singed a creepy song. While there was no signal there tori jumped out of the car
Jade said maybe next time.
It was kinda funny for a show but also creepy as an adult now.
Like they did portry jade as a serial killer in that show wanting to burry and kill tori.
Lets be real what was that scene even doing there
The scene with Cat having an anxiety attack while Beck and Jade argue before fainting while the laugh track goes nuts is up there as one of the most uncomfortable and thoughtless moments I've ever seen from a children's show.
I've never liked this scene, not even as a kid. I've been known to get very anxious or emotional when others around me are either angry or shouting, sometimes not even at me, and that's only grown worse overtime as those things, along with sudden loud noises, are huge triggers for my anxiety and I will begin to have a panic attack if the circumstances are bad enough (I've been frequently having panic attacks actually). Both of these triggers are present within this scene and are played for laughs, and it's just plain wrong.
"It's just a kids show," It's not that deep," "Stop taking it so seriously," no. I don't care if this is a kids show, that's precisely the problem. I don't need my shows to be sunshine and lollipops all of the time, but I personally think that having a very realistic panic attack due to common triggers and obvious trauma, having it result in said character having a panic attack LITERALLY PASSING OUT, having a laugh track over it, all the while acting it out with real people is indescribably careless, especially combined with a lot of other things this show tries to teach.
If you do not think that this scene is weird, at the very least, I genuinely wanna know why aside from "it's a comedy."
jordan💕
jade west💕
Ok we really need to talk about how Kat had a panic attack and no one cared
For real! I really dislike how it's played off for laughs. :/
Bones are weird like wtf cat
It's sad how her safe space is under her bed, that's where she wants to be in times of distress and that brakes my heart💔 Acting like an "air head" and young is a coping macinisum for some people, it makes them feel safe and let's them forget about their reality. She seems like such a sweet person but she goes through so much hurt...
Wtf it’s not real
someone just because it's fake in this doesn't mean it doesn't exist
Whenever somebody says they're "couple goals" I honestly wanna vomit lmao
They are a cute couple,they just fighted so much and this is just annoying , but they have some great and adorable moments :)
#bestcoupleever
ur comment makes me wanna vomit too
Antisocial Angel if you think they’re a cute couple switch the roles, beck being the over-controlling one and jade being the push-over
everyone would label beck as an abuser but since it’s jade omgggg they’re such goals awwwwdjejbegdv
@@moonundernostalgia not to offend anyone here but... do you think people in abusive relationships don't have some "cute moments"? There are literally so many stories of abusive couples who would even hit their life partners and then apologize and do "something nice" for them to forget them and stay together, I mean, Jade and Beck relationship never reached that extreme, but like, some "cute moments" don't mean you have a good, healthy, or meaningful relationship, specially when the base of your relationship is a constant state of mistrust, jealousy, and manipulative behavior. I'm just saying.
Me at 13 years old: I hope they get back together, they should stop fighting!
Me now at 19: for the love of god, they need to break up or go to couple’s therapy.
" I can't believe how jelous you get "
" OH OH SO YOU THINK IM UGLY"
I lost it
jordan jealous jade west
They were all horrible friends to each other
Kayla Vernet Cat and Andre never did anything wrong
@@chyane2314 no robbie did robirazzi instead of choosing his friends .
@@chyane2314 everything is wrong with robbie
gabriela whats wrong with Robbie
@@jaylena8756 robarazzi, stalking tori and all the weird stuff he says and does
“so u think im ugly” 💀🤚
BANGTAN TUBE ARMYYY
Jade is beautiful
Armies
whAT
BANGTAN TUBE 😂😂😂
I genuinely felt so bad for Cat in the closest sene- she seems to have some real tough backstory loar due to things like that that she does throughout the show
Here’s my question: if Jade hated being a part of their little friend group so much, (not including Andre) why was she in it? Doesn’t she have other friends who tolerate her weirdness?
For some reason the others thought about Jade as a friend.
Beck was part of the friend group so Jade's stuck with them regardless, and she keeps hiding that she actually cares towards them despite her mean attitude.
@rat-atat that's not a mean attitude, she's a mean person with a bad personality that gets mistaken with her being a 'bad girl'
"I can't believe how jealous you get."
"Oh so you think I'm ugly?"
beck.exe stopped working
Woman moment
Jordan jealous
jade west
jade and beck: **toxic noises**
nickelodeon: HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
Cat: *Having a fucking panic attack*
Nickelodeon: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Very cool ferret!
That ferret is the cutest🥺❤️
the ferret 👉🏻👈🏻🥺🥺🥺🥺
Without the laugh track it would feel like something I'm not supposed to see
Now that I think about this, some of these characters lives were pretty dark for a kid’s show. I mean Jade had her dad who never showed her any sort of love or affection and thought her dreams were stupid. Cat has her mentally unstable brother so her parents probably pay a lot more attention to him then her which could explain why she was an airhead. Andre has his grandmother he has to take care of now since she became so crazy (which in my opinion is kinda sad). Robbie has his puppet and even though he’s funny, it kinda seems like the puppet is expressing his deep dark inner thoughts which explains why he carries it around all the time. Tori and Trina just have awful parents. And Idk what to say for Beck but yeah, this show is a bit dark.
Tbh I wouldn't even consider this a kids show. 😳
Beck was a pushover who let girl all over him knowing that he had a whole girlfriend and wondered why she mad all the time.
Beck lives in an RV parked in his parents driveway because he doesnt want to follow their rules idk that has to say something about their relationship but I'm probably just reading into it too much
@@amaryllis543 no, now that you say it, we don't really know much about Beck's parents at all actually. :0
@@saimahramen If the show would of continued, i bet it would of unravelled. They all had history and issues before Tori and Trina joined the school. They didn't just magically begin having issues when they joined, so I wish the show wasn't cancelled, because we could of easily found out more-
Cat: **has a panic attack and faints**
Nickelodeon: THIS IS THE PINNACLE OF COMEDY
2:55 never thought Beck would admit to being afraid of Jade 😂
Genuinely thought he was the only one who could calm her down
Its wierd how beck knows girls like him and continues giving then attention although it makes jade jealous 🙄
Yea but he's a high school guy and not married, it's acting like a typical asshole guy
@@Mari_star_light you sound lol the dumb-ass Jade apologists that justify her behavior because "thE chArAcTer iS sUpposEd tO be lIke thAt", gross
@@Mari_star_light yeah, that's the thing, you shouldn't justify someone for being an asshole just because he's in highschool. Believe me, he's old enough to know you shouldn't do that if you're in a relationship
That shows she has trust issues, and they could both communicate more. Just talking to someone isnt giving them attention or flirting. In adult relationships you trust, you arent possessive. Their relationship is awful and they need alot of counseling.
Right it used to piss me off he never opened his mouth whenever a girl was flirting with him, and even when Tori kissed him he could have told her no but he didn't do anything about it
Bruh basically Jade only likes Andre 😂 she said nothing bad about him
**Edit: Since some people can't comprehend and need to be rude, I obviously meant that Jade likes Andre in a friend way. Y'all dont need to be rude it's just a show..**
Fluffy Husky But at the same time does make fun of him. And wouldn’t go out with him. Even if she likes him.
@@eph_loves_80s74 .-. I meant in a friend way u took it out of context
@Hanna agreed tho, he even had a crush on her
cyr ' for like 5 minutes 😂
@@user-oq2eh1fo2s fair lmfao
i never realized how many of their fights were over jade’s jealousy lol
The scene with Cat and them in the closet really touched me. Cat was obviously triggered by them arguing, implying that she had PTSD from her parents arguing.
Very subtle writing.
violet & tate, joe & beck, blair & chuck, damon & elena: lol we're a toxic unhealthy relationship
beck and jade: hold my hollywood arts acceptance letter
Love this
Jade: hold my scissors
Beck: hold my acting script
They still are my favorite couple tho🥺😂😂
Damon and Elena: Hold my blood bag
Omg Ross and Rachel from the show Friends were so funny, especially when Rachel said Ross puts too much gel on his hair!😂😂😂
cat: **litearlly having a mental breakdown**
nickelodeon: *HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH*
That is very disturbing
LMFAO
@@gachadaisy I love your profile pic
@@sofia_the_sofaof_canada8022 ty ☺
@@sofia_the_sofaof_canada8022 isn't? I've never watched Victorious fully, was this common to her character?
Jade: Your phone's making noise
Beck: I think she knows that
Jade: You don't know what she knows
Beck: I know you're being obnoxious
Jade: *OHHH*
growing up means truly realising how messed up beck and jade were as a couple and that their characters only got developed after their break up. they legit became better people and friends to the others when they weren't together and I cannot believe Nickelodeon deluded us into believing they were 'couple goals' for so long
Obviously it's not okay for jade to be that jealous, but beck also had NO business letting girls openly flirt with him, touch him, and he even tried to kiss tori! All I'm saying is it's not like jade is jealous for no reason 👀
Rita Lovett he kissed tori in the first episode. He could’ve said no, but he didn’t.
@@user-oq2eh1fo2s it was an acting exercise, thats what actors do
How was beck going to stop girls from openly flirting with him? And Jade kissed his best friend so why doesnt anyone bring that up.
link199100 but their in high school. I get that’s what actors do, but that wasn’t fair to jade. He knows how she reacts to things, so why put yourself in a situation like that.
@@user-oq2eh1fo2s i supose you only can blame Tori or the teacher for put Beck in that situation
So is everybody just gunna act like Cat didn’t cover her ears and say “I’m under my bed” as if she’s used to people arguing at home
damn you jus made this way darker
She was literally having a panic attack
@@someoneunknown7655 Yeah literally. Her character throughout the show often shows signs of deep-rooted abuse. And then the laugh track is added and everyone's like "what a fun show for kids hahaha". Ugh.
If the show continued, we could have explored Cat's character more in-depth. I'm curious of why she behaves a certain way. What kind of family did she grew up in? I'm aware that I might be over-analyzing this. But it just shows I'm interested in your comment. Your response is cool :)
HambatAttack002 bruh this is dan Schneider for Nick not David Simon from The Wire 😭
* laugh track plays while Beck drags jade to a supply closet *
Beck: "This isn't funny"
* *Laugh track intensifies* *
cat: has a panic attack and repeats, “i’m under my bed”
nickelodeon: laughing track
me: ...wtf
are we gonna ignore the fact that when cat fainted neither beck or jade reacted? they kept fighting and didn't even try to help her.
And they just left her in there
Kim Taehyung then the janitor got accused of killing her
@@UltimateJM_22 pretty sure he got accused of molesting her
@@UltimateJM_22 and I'm only suggesting that because the counselor (can't remember his name) didn't seem remotely surprised and because Schneider was clearly infatuated with Ariana in some way. Poor Ariana was sexualized on that show in a hella creepy way.
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Cat: "I'm under my bed, I'm under my bed, I'm under my bed 😰"
That is kind of a dark moment from her 😮🥺
she was literally having a full on panic attack
And the fact that they played a laugh track at that moment.
@@maced640 prob cuz they thought kids wouldn't notice the meaning behind the cause of cat fainting
I know it’s soo sad 😞
She is having flash backs
03:40 Best Andre's line ever !!! 🙌🏻
I just noticed how every time beck said that he wasn’t happy in their relationship, it was in front of friends.
Without the laugh track the whole show is just dark
Cat has a bipolar disorder, Tori and Trina's mom cheats on the dad, Andre's grandma is mentally unstable, Jade and Beck are toxic, and during Trina's audition Schowitz was basically high
And this is supposed to be a kid's show
@@Finally_in_reverse Cat definitely has something, but I don't think it was bipolar disorder.
Miraculous man0n I mean it probably was. In the first episode Tori is freaking out at says “I met a bipolar cat” which she did have weird mood swings.
Elizabeth Ama tbh i feel like cat acts the way she does because of her brother, since her brother is clearly mentally unstable she may lack attention from her parents, which causes her to act like a child to get the attention from her friends that her parents didn't give her
It makes me think of "it's always sunny in Philadelphia" with a laugh track. Like the "old lady house" episode
We need a grown up version of victorious
YES
Faith I think we all know that 😂🖤
Named Failed or something like a pun
This IS a grown up version if you really think about, they just need to remove the laugh tracks.
no we dont.
Ah the janitors closet. Doesn't matter which teen show you're watching, the characters spend at least 30% of the entire series talking in a janitors closet
Jordan jealous jade west
nobody:
jade: cheats 9283737 times with moose but worries about beck cheating
They weren’t together when she kissed moose. Also, beck tried to kiss tori. Beck kisses tori. Let every girl flirt with him. Went on a date with meridith when they weren’t together. Also she probably only did it to “beat” cat and tori bc they all wanted him.
“Ooh so you think I’m ugly”
Why is no one talking about this
I don't really know why, but i do understand her. Maybe by saying: "You could look worse if you wanted" she said that he's attractive but he didn't say it back... Or that she doesn't consider herself attractive enough for him, so she's ugly (but she's pretty, actually)... Well you know... GIRLS🤪🤯🤩🤗😍🥰😂😊😁
1:02
beck: *"wha-* **looks behind wall"**
CELEST GachaTuber did you not watch the video? If you’re relating to jade you’re a horrible human being and need serious help
CELEST GachaTuber you literally said you act like her “because you’re quirky” but okay kid
Finally someone acknowledges this.
722 likes but no replies?
Right? TBH ,while the show is still entertaining, everyone in the show was generally awful.
FalseWorldTrueHearts You’re forgetting Andre and Robbie. They were the best part about the show.
"I can't believe how jealous you get"
"OH SO YOU THINK I'M UGLY"
I'm wheezing
1:01 “oh so you think I’m ugly??” Will never not make me laigh
the only redeemable characters were cat and andre. they never fought with anybody and never betrayed anybody.
yep
Yeah but Robbie is the best btw
shay Actually Cat did get jealous when Robbie asked another girl to the Cowboy Dance & later got super jealous when Sam got back at her
Kawaii Cat Squishes! UVU Robbie betrayed his friends with that Robbie-paparazzi show, ruined Trina’s performance, and was really weird and creepy towards people.
shay What about Robbie? He never did anything bad to anybody
As a kid, I never realized just how horrible their relationship was
Felicia Ross Not really, Beck seems almost as toxic to Jade as Jade is to him.
he literally kissed tori on the second day of school in front of jade he’s also toxic
I DID
I actually did, I was always upset that Jade was so mean towards Beck.
I thought it was funny
the part with cat in the janitor room with b and j is jist me and my parents, THEY BROUGHT ME INTO EVERY FIGHT
I knew I was fucked up when these were my relationship goals as a kid
“im under my bed i’m under my bed i’m under my bed”
dang that was kind of a dark Cat moment
edit: I’ve been watching these compilation videos of Victorious for a day or two now and I never realized how actually dark and depressive a lot of the material is in this show. It’s all covered up by the laugh tracks and editing and the fact that it’s a kids show, but still. I never caught a lot of things I guess when I was 11-12 cause of the laugh track.
I need a compilation of Dark Cat Moments now
I’m having a feeling that cats parents fought a lot
😭😭💔💔
Kawaii♥Bells no, i think it was about her phsyco brother
and the laugh track keeps on playing...
0:58
"I can't believe how jealous you get"
"OH, SO YOU THINK I'M UGLY"
LMFAO THAT ALWAYS GETS ME
I was like... wait what?!!😂
@@dhenderson319 LMFAOO he's like 😲
ASKJANN IK
“so you think im ugly?” LMAOO I CANT
We really grew up thinking Jade and Beck were couple goals
LMAOOOOOOOO🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
"i know you're being obnoxious."
*_"oh."_*
sums up the relationship pretty well
Ikr lol
I'm ur thousand like
I think beck’s the obnoxious one tbh just my opinion tho🤷🏽♀️
@@jayla4973 so you didn’t watch 2:06-2:27 ... Simp ass
@@zigsteenine8650 lol 🤣who the hell likes one word replies and I’m not a simp I’m a whole girl😭🤚🏽
I'm constantly confused why does Beck not firmly reject girls that hits on him.
Peach Juice finally someone else caught on to this, beck literally bathed in attention from other girls and didn’t reject not one of them (besides trina) if anything Jade had every right to be upset most times she was.
Huh, I never really noticed that until now. It's weird going back and picking up on things I missed when I was younger
And in one episode where he offers Tori a ride to school, she finds out that several other girls just show up to his house to ask for a ride. And he just lets them come to school with him, not minding if they get touchy or obnoxious. He didn't even stop the girls from fighting with Tori in the car. Jade's jealousy is very understandable.
English is not my main language but I really don't understand second part of ur sentence
Remember when Jade was upset about Beck talking to Alyssa Vaughn and the day after they broke up he had her drive him to school. So gross.
the jealous and ugly joke always makes me wheeze lmfao
jealous Jordan jade west
Beck: "I know ur being Obnoxious!"
Jade: *OHHHH*
When Beck and Jade were fighting in front of cat it gave me huge abusive-parent vibes
Me too🙁
yeah but don’t forget when beck kiss tori and he tried again
eunhaxo • yes, when he and jade broke up, he also went out with Meredith sort of, but no one points that out.
@@n4b1d they were broken up at the time he COULD DATE ANYONE HE WANTED.
Also hes an ACTOR..he can kiss someone during scenes
tzo yeah that’s my point, if he went on that date with Tori he’d instantly be seen as the toxic one
Yes,we know ...get over it!
I don’t know why Beck puts up Jade, even after they fight so much. Especially Jade is the one who starts the fight.
He likes to be challenged
he wants a girl who fights back and jade is just that
0:55
What we see happening to Cat is PTSD. She probably went through a traumatic expierence and used age regression as a coping method. Age regression is where after something traumatic happens, they go back to a age where they were happy. This is used to cope. She’s have a PTSD panic attack from the arguing and shouting.
they shouldn't have put the laughing track when Cat fainted.
Oh I do that too
I believe someone already pointed this out, but realize how Cat starts having a breakdown and imagines she’s “under her bed” when Jade and Beck start fighting. That coupled with what we know with Cat’s brother.. Her childhood was probably not the best. It’s safe to say that her air headedness might be a self-defense mechanism of some sort that she adopted. If you look at the first season, you see that she’s easily irritable and quick to think that everyone is thinking negatively of her by default. Her family was obviously dysfunctional.
*EDIT:* Was going to ignore, but no shiitake it’s just a tv show? It’s fun to make theories about shows and it’s characters.
*2* I don’t know why people are getting so defensive about this comment _cough_ Lana Banana _cough._ No doubt in my mind the writers had not put this much thought into it. So what? How does a theory hurt you? You could almost say this comment is... not that deep.. (=^▽^)σ
*Oh Gosh Please Stop Adding Edits Me:* This is the most chaotic thread I’ve ever had. The literal personification of sitting in a room on fire and sipping tea, “this is fine.” Also I apologized to Lana for people attacking her and she didn’t even say “it’s okay” or at least a “frik off” smhh. (tHis iS a jOke nO mOre wArS PleAsE.) For real though, the banter was fun, but let’s chill out, okay? Honestly let’s just enjoy this chaotic neutral show, whether you want to “think deep” or stay for the memes. If you disagree with it, that’s alright. Aight, Imma bout to head out,,
It's a TV show character, it's not that deep
Edit: you don't know anything about psychology or mental diseases so I don't know why you're acting like you do. It's a nickelodeon original, she's acting like that for comedy. You're reading too much into this
Edit 2: no shit it's not that deep, I said it in my comment. You really thought you did something there, didn't you? Get some more braincells babes ❤️❤️❤️😘😘😘
That's good theory! With Victorious there are a lot of hidden messages with the way the characters act. But since it's a kids show they need to keep it Pg in a way. People say that Rex is all the feelings and bullying Robbie has dealt with in one puppet. People say that Cat's brother is the reason for her being mentally "unstable." People also say that Jade would've been a lesbian if this wasn't a Nick show, since scissors are constantly being brought up. I'm not sure, but I find all of this stuff interesting.
@@lanabanana9038 shut
@@carebear5876 I disagree with Jade being les. I don't think it would happen even if this are an adult show perhaps with other chr
I think Jade would be bi instead because she does really like beck as well
no one:
beck: someday I’d like to plant a vegetable garden
hes so chill
The way he said it is so funny
I would also like to plant a vegetable garden
When is that?
I’m still looking forward to it
Beck and Jade are the most unrealistic couple you'll ever see on TV. There is ZERO chemistry between the two and that's not the fault of the actors, Liz and Avan play well but as a couple they seem completely inauthentic. Why would Beck, who is portrayed as someone who could have ANY girl he wants and who also has a very stable personality and a really nice character, be with a girl who is in a bad mood literally every day, yells at him all the time AND is basically unkind to everyone else? You'd have to have pretty damn low self-esteem to be with someone like that, and that's exactly not the case with Beck (if anything, it's with Robbie), and as if a goth girl like Jade would be interested in a guy like Beck who is portrayed as a pretty boy.
Yeah. Dan might as well have said on any of the episodes "We won't have Beck go with Tori due to a talented and hot guy going with a talented and hot girl being too cliché. A perfect guy with a perfect girl".
Even if there was some unexplained drama and/or trauma that happened, a guy would get tired of a girl like that, and reasonably so.
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So true! They aren‘t convincing as a couple.
Jordan 🎶🩷
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Jordan 🩷🎶
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She was the toxic one in the relationship, no matter what beck did, it wasn't good enough for her, why he stayed with her as long as he did is beyond me, why would any man stay with someone as toxic as her
“The dolphin was just being friendly!”
Me: *remembers those dolphins humping people videos, and the fact that this is a tv show by Dan Schneider* 😐
bro
Bruh
Brah
brih
alexVANCE breh
why is everyone in the comments suddenly a psychologist lmfaoo💀💀
Haley Polfliet I KNOW 🤣
right I’m like damn ma it ain’t that serious
i think that the main problem is that if you showcase that this type of behavior is funny or normal in a relationship children will just normalize toxic relationships, it doesn’t take a psychology degree to see how problematic they are.
eva gomez u think too much
@@smart422 💯💯
And people still act like their relationship is “relationship goals”. It goes to show the maturity level of those who watch the show and think their relationship is one to model their own after…
I wish they’d expanded on Andre/ jade after jade and beck broke up. Jade was always insecure around beck and he fueled her insecurities. I think she would’ve been a lot calmer with andre
Andre would have treated Jade much better imo
I wish there were more episodes with just the two of them
i still have no idea why beck wouldn’t leave jade. they’re always fighting. they both needed a LONG break from each other but just kept going with a relationship.
I still don't have no idea of why Beck keep on letting girls hit on him 🙄.
Well actually he did. He just realized later on that even if theyre toxic, theres no girl that would be perfect for him other than Jade. Just like how people nowadayas do right? Even if theres so much wtong between you and your partner, the love is the only that binds you together
ngl jade would most likely murder beck in his sleep, crazy girlfriend check am I right
pookie are you like mentally okay?
They need to break up and not get back together PERIOD! They’re a horrible, toxic couple. Bori all the way!
Everyone: *thinks to when Tori says “kiss me” and Beck agrees to do it*
Jade has every right to be a little overprotective.
yeah but she's just like every other girl with a cheating boyfriend who blames other girls and never him and it's annoying, she rarely says anything to him about it and just gets mad at other girls over it, as if it's their job to not cheat on her and not his
@Phuck You 1. Love your username 2. They aren’t the greatest couple. And probably shouldn’t be a couple. They both have problems but I still think that’s what kind of started it.
IcyPopsicle and he always lets girls all over him, he clearly likes the attention. also beck tried to kiss tori again in Tori Goes Platinum and Tori disagrees, showing that Jade should be mad at Beck and not always the other girls
Dee’s World yes but you don't date your friends ex, especially if it ended badly (that's how the characters think not me)
Dee’s World 2:37
3:56 she doesnt mention Andre, he's everyone's friend
*Jade literally being abusive*
the Fandom: "BUT BECK LETS GIRLS FLIRT WITH HIM!?!?"
really though, yall accept abusive behavior from women and blame victims, male or female but especially male.
If jade was a man and beck was a woman yall would hate jade.
THIS ^^
Y’all,These comment sections are exactly like how jade and beck fight.
FR FR
“I can’t believe how jealous you get.”
“OH, SO YOU THINK I’M UGLY??”
Yeah.
Bahahahha
@@kiera6326 OHOHSOYOUTHINKIMUGLY-
@@feliciar4101 You're wrong and stop saying that. Because you're being really stupid for saying that.
why didnt they talk more abt cats backstory? they had such a good chance to create an arc abt her especially in sam n cat
Reeham Iknow right I feel like why is nobody talking about where she almost pass the fuck out because are fighting 🙄
Kenson Gillis Lmao everyone’s talking about it
I wish I could her parents and brother
So in Sam & Cat there is a character named Goomer, he is one of the main characters besides Sam and Cat. Goomer shows up in an episode of Henry Danger as the sidekick to a villain called Frankini. In that episode Goomer says "I used to hang out with Frankini's sister a lot." Since Sam has never mentioned having a brother (only her twin sister, Melanie) we are led to believe that Frankini is Cat's brother.
Idk just a little detail I noticed.
@@theblueplatypus_exe2728 but that's just cause it was Ariana's brother acting, Cat always mentioned how insane her brother was to the point her parents had to take him to mental hospital and stay for 3 years or something...
Cat's third: "I'm under my bed" hit harder than the other ones