Victorious Analysis: Jade & Beck's Complicated Relationship
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- It's finally here. My analysis of Jade and Beck's relationship.
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Hell yeah! That's so deep bro
I’d like to hear it
Do a video on Carly shay, because you should get the bar rolling for ICarly
Jayniac Jr. do it I’m here for it
Hell yeah!
Everyone says jade is the toxic one but beck let girls touch him stroke his hair and he didn’t stop them.i mean this would make anyone insecure.Also im not saying Jade isn't toxic im just saying beck is as-well
Yeah but jade was toxic with everyone not only beck, imagine having a friend like her i am sure that you wouldn’t like it.
Leonardo vazquez I’m not saying jade wasn’t toxic I’m just saying beck was as well because loads of people just blame jade
@@kevinleonardovazquezrivero5912 is that even a "friend" though? I wouldn't want to be around someone like her
When I was younger I didn't get why Jade were so toxic, I just thought she was an annoying bitch for no reason, and I still think she's a bitch a lot of the time for no reason but when it comes to Beck I can now see why Jade got so upset all the time, Beck "loves" Jade yet he doesn't care or stops any girls from flirting with him and touching him
Let me catch MY son and i would agree with you but... jade was toxic to a lot of people not Just her boyfriend, everytime she has the chance she treated everyonelike trash
One girl that Jade doesn't get mad about being somewhat close with Beck is Cat. Because there is no fear there.
Cat is a true friend
I mean, Cat didn't kiss her boyfriend as Tori did. Even if Jade is rude with Cat sometimes (just like she is with everyone), Jade knows she can trust Cat
Jade sees cat as like a child per se. That's why she doesn't get worried. Or in her words "And cat is basically a pet."
Avril Snow is that Mina I see? 🤩
@@rebbomb yup, it is
I will admit I love these two together, but they are toxic together. Jade has a lot of insecurities and trust issues, While beck is too laid back and openly let’s girls flirt with him.
Yeah and that scene where she says if he doesn’t come in 10 seconds they’re done.:.thats sooo toxic
I agree. I was with a girl like Beck and our relationship was so damaging to me, I guess for her it was too. A person who cares so much about every little thing and overthinks everything, feels threatened by anything should never be with someone who doesn't make them feel safe enough to not feel like this anymore. Jade wouldn't act like she acted if she was with someone who doesn't make her feel like she should indeed be insecure
anna exactly, I’m sorry you had to go through that tho.
Chikin Kween I hated that happened, I couldn’t watch that episode again because of all that, also they left cat after she passed out, that was horrible.
Yes same they look cute together but their relationship is so toxic
I hate how in that one karaoke episode when that girl flirted with Beck, he didn't say anything and Cat had to speak up and say "he has a girlfriend"
Julie Bui Exactly. He should’ve spoken up. It made no sense for Cat to have to say something.
Yeah that's the thing, he claims he loves Jade, and maybe he does but at the same time when girls flirts with him he doesn't turn them down, someone else has to do it for him
Exactly why Jade doesn't feel threatened by Cat. She's a true friend.
@Idk Goaway I think the episode was called Freak the Freak Out
And trina kisses him sits on his lap and he doesn't do anything
I think people also forget that these characters are *teenagers* and at that age most people's toxic traits are exaggerated by hormones/immaturity. If you look at most highschool relationships they are filled with toxic jealousy.
Luna doesn’t mean people shouldn’t take it for what it is.. it’s toxic and unhealthy, doesn’t matter if they’re teenagers or not.
Both valid points!
@@BabyGirlTiny I think I should clarify; my statement was when you're an immature teen that kind of toxicity is expected. You haven't learned how to function in a relationship yet. I was saying they are not bad people for being overly jealous in their teen years and that people are too critical of the relationship, not that their behavior shouldn't be corrected in the future.
Luna sometimes they get worse
Luna I get it, but that’s not an excuse to give it a pass. I’m not saying they’re bad people either, but they’re terrible for each other, teenagers or not, and it shouldn’t be something to overlook just because they are teenagers. They’re also people as well. Think about andres horrible girl. Would you say that that relationship would have been okay just because they’re teenagers?
Fun fact: Elizabeth gillies actually wrote the song “you don’t know me” herself
sarah choi Ik I’m so proud of my bby!
That song is amazing i had no idea
Songwriters wrote the song for her
It’s the character Jade who wrote it in the show, but irl it’s mostly professional songwriters
Amazing GRACE n yes, that is usually the case. But Elizabeth stated in an interview that she wrote the song herself
She is so talented I know she didn’t want to go into music like Ariana but damn she easily could have
I wish they did a episode on why and how they got together in the first time since they are so different
I totally agree.
OH TRUE
I never thought about that! How DID they meet?
I always thought they met at some type of class in directing and Jade was teasing him with all the attention he got, trying to push him away, And Beck would just get intrigued by this and just keep talking to her, teasing her back, showing how he was not leaving, between some romantic moments here and there and probably the shown of Vulnerability between the two (talking about there home lives, Ect) they would end up as the relationship we know
Moon_Sun 19 Ikr I wonder how they got together in the first place
The show also paints Jade as the ONLY girl with "strong opinions". Which is annoying.
All the girls on this show are aggressive like Jade is tbh and the guys are shown as chill and sweet.
I don’t agree
@@Lara-we1ww I'm not talking about aggression though. And yea, the guys are neutral for the most part.
@Chance Jade doesn't back down though, that's part of what makes it "strong".
@@dnicole4236 That's cool.
Beck was unfaithful and we let him get away with it
Jade has always been controlling but everyone let's her get away with that
@@notanarsonist7348 this is also true
Athenäs ikr
It sucks cause she's controlling to keep him from being unfaithful, but by controlling him he'll do more unfaithful things to overcompensate for his lack of freedom.
Its not cheating if its acting......
"Why are you rubbing my boyfriend?"
"I want a girl with strong opinions and a big mouth"
"You push me back, I'll push you back. Harder Harder"
You are so dirty minded
@@soniasunny7372 I only collect jokes. I don't make them
I don't get it
Frickin Art👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Oh yikes I just got that image in my head let me tell u it
Tori rubbing beck hard on his chest then jade comes in and says "why are u rubbing my bf" then jade takes beck home and does the dirty work together and jade pushing on him
Why did u need to say that im 12 and not my innocence is getting more uninnocent
You should do a vid on the obvious affair Toris mom is having. She’s always texting her dads friend from work and then deleting the messages when someone asks about it
Wait what!?? I've never noticed that
Grettha lai yeah it’s pretty bad
Holy cow! Does anybody know where I can watch a compilation of that? I don't feel like watching the whole show just for that 😅
Grettha lai I don’t know if there’s a compilation of it, but you should see it a lot in the episode where Tori was being driven around by all the other characters.
i did not pick up on this as a child 😭
they're so problematic, shes definitely over jealous but he also let girls flirt with him?? like he acts like he cant do anything but he could just say he has a girlfriend, idk their relationship is toxic af
But if he pushes a firl a way as a guy he'd get in trouble for assault.
@@LangBellsChannel that doesn't make any sense
LangBellsChannel he can SAY he has a gf , not hit them are you 11 or something
LangBellsChannel he doesn’t have to do it physically i-
At the karaoke club when that one bitch was flirting he said he had a girlfriend but when she kept flirting he literally just let it happen like "WELP I TRIED"
Most bother me was Beck let Tori kiss him.
If I'm remembering correctly he's the one who leaned in
exactly! they were doing an alphabetical improv and the letter was y. he could've said yuck instead of yes and pushed tori away :/
Sarah M it was l, he said “let’s do it” but he could’ve easily said “let’s not,” cause she said “kiss me” right before
they were doing improv and rule number one of improv is say yes
ya it was in alphabetical order so he could've said lets not
I would love a video on Carly, I've seen people say that she was selfish and egotistical...
Monica Creator yea she knew that Freddie likes her and she used him to her advantage. I still love her tho, and they did end up becoming best friends after, but she didn’t have good intentions when she first met him.
Ricky’s Rabbits I get that. I just think she was just a little insecure at the beginning of the show like most young teenage girls are. I feel like it was more of a “he likes me and I don’t have a boyfriend” sorta thing which is actually very common when you’re like 12-14. Doesn’t make it right, but a lot of my friends were like that growing up.
Juliette Veronica yea and I’m happy that it turned into a real friendship between them, but she could have been nicer about it.
@@Ricky-cx1qy She asked him for a favor because he offered.. 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
@@JulietteVeronica1201 she literally never did anything that showed they weren't anything other than friends?
I’d be interested in exploring the potential bisexuality of Jade. From jokes like her loving scissoring and tacos. To more subtle and serious things. Like her dynamic with Tori, she’s alway rude yet she sends out flirtatious lines, Tori’s often the first time she comes to in times if need, and while she heavily forbids physical contact from everyone she encourages and initiates it with tori. Also the drama teacher low key really ships it, casting them as husband and wife twice, once just straight up assigning them, and the second time has tori pick her “random” role knowing full well the only part left is jades husband (he even makes them go on a date) idk I find it somewhat interesting but I don’t know if you do. Or weather or not you are queer yourself and therefore would be comfortable talking about it. But there are a few videos exploring it slightly
Tree Gleek I completely agree. And I remember the episode where Jade dumped Beck back in season one where Beck goes, “So I cant be friends with other girls?” And Jade says, “You can be friends with ugly girls.” Yet she always feels so threatened whenever Tori hangs out with Beck. And I’m not stretching things too far because during their date at Nozu Jade clearly said to Tori, “I guess... from certain angles... you’re pretty.” She sounded a little off, not herself. One could perceive that to be that she normally doesn’t give compliments, especially to Tori of all people, but when Tori says it back Jade seems vulnerable almost. I do believe Jade was in love with Beck, but I also believe she had an attraction to Tori which she was burying inside her.
I don’t think you should romanticize the relationship Jade has with Tori. Their relationship was very toxic and terrible most of the time
Venari.x I’m not saying it’s a healthy relationship. Jade is terrible to Tori and Tori has also done some not so great to Jade. But there is something unique to the way Jade sees Tori and I’m interested in exploring those motives.
It’s not that serious it’s a kids show🤦🏽♂️😑
@@f1ushed- but it's fun to explore and theorize these shows, so let us have fun at least.
it sometimes seems that beck is purposely provoking jade so that she’d get mad at him. since it’s obvious beck thinks a easy relationship is boring.
Yeah, Jade's possessiveness and jealous behavior isn't good but it's definitely more of a dick move for Beck to provoke Jade as much as he does just because he doesn't want a relationship where he and his partner just love each other and don't act like they hate each other more than arachnophobes hate spiders.
Yeah, I think he's really doing it wrong. I understand a relationship without some fighting is unhealthy, but I think Beck should stop doing things to purposely cause fights
But isn’t she always mad at someone besides Beck. I think Beck is just one of the those guys that are just to nice with people but that overly niceness can be harmful if you have a significant other. I can understand why Jade gets mad at him for that.
Also I think jade acts out for no reason at time so I think he does it to give jade a reason to act out
My opinion~ I really ship Bade, it just works. You can clearly see Beck was super in love with her and Jade loved him a lot too, she just had a different way of showing it. As to why she was so protective, I have three theories
1)she was cheated on (before Beck)
2)one of her parents cheated
3)she has trust issues because of her dad “he’s never kept a single promise”
Overall I think they are a good match for each other, they do have some toxic traits but they love each other and are happy together
And having someone as hot as Beck, who all the girls are into must be hard
Adding on to this I agree with pretty much everything you said in this video, Beck loves Jade for who she is . I’d have loved to see Jade’s character written the exact same but a bit kinder to Beck (and only Beck) cuz it would be cute tbh
Sophie Massie you do know people can love each other and “seem perfect for each other” but can STILL be hella toxic. Maybe if they worked on themselves and worked through their own issues THEN dated again that would make them so much better for each other
Sophie Massie I’ve always loved them btw. But there are obvious issues with them and even when i was a child i could see it.
Sophie Massie yikes, so you would rather he continue the circle of toxicity instead of finding someone that works for her
*In a serious voice* "Luh-luh-luh-louder"
Jade: possessive
Tori: flirts with Beck
Beck: lets girls flirt with him
Not a good combo 😑
No. Boys are mostly confused because they don’t know whether they should let them flirt to be nice, or just tell them “I have a girlfriend.” And a girl takes that personally because we feel like they know how we feel, but they really don’t. That’s just my theory though.
Beck lets girls flirt with him because that is better than having someone yelling and screaming at him. Because that's what Jade always does. Because I wouldn't want to be in a relationship with someone that is always toxic because of that. Because I'm more like Beck by letting girls flirt with me.
Ooh three way
@@simplyyaeriee320 As a guy the idea that we should be treated like children is stupid. Us guys know to say hey i have a girlfriend.
@@simplyyaeriee320 there is nothing to be confused about. if you have a girlfriend and a other girl flirts with you you tell them you have a girlfriend. It saves her time and you dont come off as leading anoher girl up.
The thing that I really didn’t like about this show is why they barely expanded on the characters backstories. For example, Jade. I always wondered why she was so mean, and then when they showed her dad and their relationship I just wanted to know more. Same with cats brother and andres grandma. They elude to them, (and even show them in andres grandmothers case), but never went deeper than that. Honestly, looking back on it now, I feel there should be a reboot geared to young adults and adults TV-14 but TV-MA is preferred for me so they can go into deep backstories, tackling themes like abuse, mental illness, and so on, but in a mature way that accurately depicts the characters while still having that comedy aspect. It’ll most likely never happen but alas
id love a tv-ma version and id love for one of the characters to struggle with sexuality or accepting themselves because that can be a really good, strong theme.
That’s why I read fan fic. It delves a lot into possible backstory or other stuff the characters could have.
dude, I would love that, especially with all the same actors too! It would obviously be hard to do a whole series because of how busy they are, but maybe like a movie?? That would honestly be sick.
Also Tori’s mom who has an affair with her husband’s co worker cop
@@incrediblekeenan1751 I mean, I could try but I'm not in the mood to write an essay length comment explaining why Jade works as a likeable character. I wouldn't try defending Beck and Jade too much but I can understand where the character of Jade is coming from so I could explain some of what she does. But based on your comment, I assume you clearly don't want to hear it anyway.
the one reason why I hate this 'ship' was just mostly the fact that Beck kept having girls flirt with him, but he never stopped it. it seemed like he even incouraged(?) it at some points. he knew how jade felt about it and had jade deal with it (ex. that scene at the karaoke place). it seems like he was 'getting off' to girls flirting with him and getting jade jealous. and it seemed like this reason is why jade acts like this. ex Beck was flirting back with a girl and she was scared to lose him (cause he was her first love). if not with him then with someone else. in all, Beck wasn't good for jade. it seemed like he made her 'doubt herself' and feeling like she had to clam him (screaming that they're dating) everywhere they go.
but, a good thing I see here is that the relationship seemed like she stood up for herself more.
This is very true
Okay but can you talk about how Tori's parents probably divorced and all the factors leading up to it
Like the obvious affair her mother was having with her dads cop partner.
Insert_Clever_Name_Here ya but also like that sleepover at sikowitz episode where they try to have a romantic night but Tori's friends interrupt it, like I wanna get into the why she felt the need to have an affair
@@fabledhorse356 I mean she obviously wouldn't want him to know she was cheating and could've just been putting on a facade to lower suspicion. As to why? Maybe they had some issues at one point and she went to his partner to vent or whatever and it went from there.
Yeah has nobody noticed in Driving Tori Crazy, Holly (Tori's mom) was laughing at a message David ( Tori's dad)'s assistant Gary from the police station sent her?
Tori's parents obviously dont really care about her and Trina. Whenever something happens to them, they leave them by themselves. Like when Trina had her surgery, her parents left to go on vacation and then they came back only leave again 5 seconds after they showed up
It’s toxic but it works
It really doesn’t.
No
Boogiemywoogie no it doesnt
it should be "It works but it's toxic"
rhianna and chris brown, its toxic but it works
Nah, they’re toxic as hell. Beck literally cheated on her by kissing Tori, knowing how insecure it would make her. He broke up with her for Tori, making the things Jade was so insecure about come true. That shit ain’t okay, and is not how you treat someone you truly love.
THIS! He literally returned with Jade because Tori decided last minute that she didn’t wanted to be with him. They were an incredibly toxic couple but many are apologetic because “oMg ThEir DifFerEnt”
And don’t forget how controlling Jade was too and (possibly) physically abusive. Remember the episode where she threw a rock at Beck?
If you're that insecure, you shouldn't be with that person or any person. Trust is the most important thing in a relationship.
lol, he not broke bc Tori xddd.
It’s improv. That’s not cheating on. The point of improv is to make it seem as realistic as possible, no matter real life. He didn’t break up with her for tori, he was looking for someone else after they broke up. Nothing about beck insinuated that the sole reason he broke up with (and even then, jade insinuated the break-up, so your point is null and void).
victorious is such a cool show because it shows cat’s mental illness and bad home life, jade and beck’s toxic relationship, jade’s bad childhood, robbie’s depression and insecurities etc.
I COMPLETLEY agree with you Imagine the outrage by SJW if this show was released today😒
Literally NO family is all fine and healthy... It addresses so many issues secretly
Wait, Robbie has depression? 😐
@@notthemexicanaverage235 it's just another theory that the new grown up fanbase is making on the show since a bunch of stuff flew over head as kids but alot of it make senses
Yea..I think beck, and Tori are really irrelevant, Cat, Robbie, Jade and Trina are the ones with the problems
Cat: Probably has bipolar disorder, anxiety, and ADHD
Robbie: Is VERY insecure, probably depressed, and is socially awkward.
Jade: Probably Anger issues/attitude problem or Borderline personality disorder (BPD) (meaning she could worry about people leaving her and push them away, have explosive anger, find it hard to keep a stable relationship or friendship, and struggle to trust others) and terrible home life
Trina: Insecure, and probably has Histrionic personality disorder (which means she basically feels the need to impress everyone or crave attention)
Beck likes the attention bc he knows if he tells the girls to stop and makes it clear he has gf theyll back off!!
What about those two girls in the karaoke club? Didn't they flirt with him after meeting Jade?
They literally know he has a girlfriend. The girls at Hollywood Arts know that, and he never engages them. He just ignores them. 🤷🏾♀️
Lol. no they wouldn't they'd try harder. usually when jade says "hey that's my boyfriend back off"
they usually get snarky with jade. jade snaps back then they back off. or they keep trying and belittle and disrespect Jade.
like with the Karaoke place for example. The two girls who one of their dad's owned the place, was getting flirty with beck. one time Beck says he has a girlfriend. they say well i don't see her. Jade shows up and says turn around, now you do. they get snarky and one girl says well i ain't seeing much.
@Dave Patel I mean the point is that the idea that anyone could stop these girls from doing what they wanted to do isn't accurate. Jade could scare them away sometimes, but Beck? Beck is the guy who saw a hot dog wiener in his punch and instead taking it out and throwing it away, he drank the punch. He is incredibly non-confrontational, polite, and tends to resolve conflict either by refusing to fan the flames or by being a bit of a trickster (as with Trina). As much as possible, he just decides the thing isn't bothering him enough for him to change what he's doing. Still, in the scene being referenced, Cat said Beck had a girlfriend *after* Beck literally picked up the girl's hand off his own with forefinger and thumb like it was a piece of garbage. The look on her face says she's getting the message that he's not into her, whereas Cat's announcement only made her rise to the challenge. I'd say Beck had a better read on the situation than Cat.
He seeks the attention else were because Jade doesn't give him enough.
Those lyrics were SO DEEP! How did a children’s show even make that and air it?? I’ve never known those were the lyrics either??
Honestly a lot of Victorious song lyrics are deeper than any kids show deserves.
This show was actually aimed for teenage/adult audience, although plenty of children watched it when it was still airing.
And Liz Gillies wrote the lyrics for the song too during the first season, if I remember correctly! Liz is just so talented and helped a lot with making Jade as multidimensional as she is. Also, while Jade and Beck weren't always healthy, imo you can see and understand more of their dynamic and love in the slap videos that weren't a part of the show. Because the actual episodes of the series only focused on their drama when it told their story, while they had the sweetest moments too behind the scenes. Still, I think their break up was necessary because they became far more chill and better for each other after that period and their last time of getting back with each other. I'm sure they only kept becoming more mature as time went on and overcame their old teen angst tendencies. Well, I would like to imagine that at least lol Because they really are a yin and yang pairing in my eyes and fit perfectly together!
@@slayer4691 adding to you saying that your sure they kept becoming more mature: Liz tweeted a while ago that Jade and Beck had a baby!! lmaoo
@@elladescoteau8258 yeah, i never liked that fanon thought, unless it was way in the future, which in my mind is.
all the comments about how “its toxic but it works” WHAT. THATS JUST SAYING TOXIC RELATIONSHIPS ARE OKAY. THEYRE NOT. WHAT THE HELL
Exactly.
Thank you. I’m noticing that not everyone who comments has common sense😅
The problem with this couple is that they never work on their issues. They break up and get back together without ever trying to make it work better this time around. If Beck stopped letting girls flirt with him and that Jade tried to trust him more and be less jealous, it would resolve many of their fights. But since neither of them is willing to try and meet halfway, they'll never stop arguing.
Very well put!
High school relationships are often pretty toxic
"l-l-l-louder" he says, in his monotonous voice lmao
I absolutely loved this video! A lot of people forget that Jade has backstory and that she likely wasn't always this bitter and mean. Also... Beck probably doesn't push girls away because he likes when Jade gets all riled up. Awesome look at their relationship.
If you're doing a cover, could you do Jade's song... but seriously this time? Lol. And for another upload, do Cat Valentine [this is a broken record, i'm sorry C: ]
Acey Michaelis the whole thing was like dramatic poetry reading
the l-l-l-louder bit was amazing hahaha
I'm actually surprised they allowed them to be in a kids show. Guess Nick and disney are very different huh. Because this would not pass on disney
I could be wrong but i feel like i remember victorious airing on teen nick when that was a thing
This show had teenage/adult audience in mind since it was on teen nick after all, the adult jokes and tons of kissing in the show gives that away, even though children watched it when it was still airing.
Remember Good Luck Charlie? Spencer cheated on Teddy. I feel GLC was as pushing as it was going to get
@@breonawarren1507 ig but they didnt have raging fights like beck and jade. Totally different
Lara facts
"That He is/ was /is again / isn't/ is for real this time in a relationship with Jade" lol
I just realize that Cat claps when Jade gets to three because canonically she always forgets it.
I love that part it’s literally so cute
Their relationship was indeed toxic because she loved him way too much and he doesn’t love her back with same intensity
Wow, I think you put that into words perfectly. Beck is so easygoing (not to mention that he rarely intervenes when girls are flirting with him) that I wouldn't be surprised that Jade is possessive. She's unsure if Beck loves her.
Please do more videos on Robbie. He's so underrated
Young God Ammie Robbie and cat as a couple
Young God Ammie he’s boring
He’s a “nice guy”
Young God Ammie I feel like it’d actually be totally interesting. Robbie clearly has major insecurity problems, and the fact that every cast member (except maybe Cat) took advantage of him at one point or another is really sad. He clearly never felt great about himself and everyone, especially Tori, promoted his self-deprecating behavior.
I also thought it was odd that he was portrayed as whiny and pathetic all the time. The entitled nerd stereotype has been played out a lot, but I don’t think the show writers were self-aware enough to execute it properly. I find it weird that a lot of guys with curly hair are depicted as creepy, pathetic, and slimy. I’ve noticed it across all mediums (for instance Sinjin too, Dan in S6 of GG). Whether this is indicative of some deeper-rooted issue is debatable, but at least for me, when I was a child and saw a kid with curly hair I instantly would be suspicious of them. It’s cause of the stuff I watched.
Anime And Loneliness But what about hot guys in the media with curly hair like Harry Styles?
Heres the thing, Beck can simply get whoever he wants because he is so good looking, im assuming Jade is probably the only girl who puts up a challenge to get her while other girls in the show will just let him in
I mean it’s not like Jade’s ugly either.
She's hot as hell.
Maybe he respects Jade
Remember that episode he was friends with a socialite or something.
Great video. I've always thought that Beck and Jade are the heartbeat of this show. Sure, it's an irregular and often unhealthy heartbeat but it's the only strong heartbeat Victorious has. It was quite a bold move keeping them together for most of the show given that Tori and Beck seemed to be getting pretty heavily teased in the pilot. The route they ended up taking is unconventional for a Nickelodeon sitcom and that makes it all the more interesting and less predictable.
Side note: given that Beck's Dad is played by Dan Schneider, I can think of a few reasons he might have wanted to move out...
The discontinued deep analysis on Beck's RV caught me off guard. 😂
pls cover tell me that you love me
that song is fucking brilliant
also loved the video and that "you don't know me" moment was HILLARIOUS
and i love victorious too.... and Jade
Ooo nice choice. I will definitely consider it. I will say though, my heart has been leaning closer to doing a cover of Here's 2 Us, simply because it really speaks to me.
@@JayniacJr if it is what your hear says then do it! i'll listen to it!
This relationship thought kids that it’s okay to be in a toxic relationship and crawl back to them every time you break up because it’s “love”
Jade only considers beck, cat and andre as friends, she barely tolerates anyone else
I love how in the intro, they cut out the part where Trina was obsessing over beck 😂😂
Great video man, would love a video on Cat and Robbie's semi relationship!
The L-L-L-L-Louder got me.
it gets all of us.
7:51 I will never understand how people can actually read lyrics to a song like a normal person, usually I end up badly sing the melody by the end
Took me multiple takes! You're not alone.
Cat and Robbie were the cutest ship on that show period
They have problematic things too like Robbie having cutouts of Cat
@@therabbitgod5853 and how cat doesnt like it when robbie plays "pirates" with her
So glad to see this relationship analyzed! I feel like guys like Beck stay with girls like Jade because they once grew attached to each other through proximity and the former is too passive to leave. It's a very strange power dynamic that somehow works (until the strong one goes too far), but it feels imbalanced in that one strays through aggressive desire and the other through passive acceptance. It's ultimately up to the passive partner to examine when their feelings have passed and is ready to leave. I have no idea why Beck let other girls flirt with him; something tells me he just liked being the "nice guy." If he was just completely secure in the relationship, he should have communicated his reasons with Jade better. It's just a stupid thing to do.
In response to the "Jade hates Tori because she kissed her boyfriend" comments: Jade clearly would have disliked Tori regardless. I think she was envious of Tori's approachable and unassuming nature, which someone as intimidating as Jade was incapable of possessing. She most likely knew deep down that her aggressive personality would end up pushing Beck away someday but didn't know how to be different, which is why girls like Tori threatened her. She probably sensed that Beck would one day go for someone easier to get along with. I just don't think insecurity and dominance is healthy (eg. how so many people bash Ross's possessiveness toward Rachel in "Friends).
The most toxic relationship that we love
This relationship was complicated because Jade is a complicated person
Or cause Beck keeps on kissing other girls🙈😂
@@emmaybenot7263 Jade's terrible traits outweigh beck's.
CrookedCasper Jade is insecure but Beck openly brings people into arguments and openly lets people flirt with her
@@Seven-vn6qi he brings people into arguments because she has terrible arguments she conveys. Not saying it's okay but its not for nothing
@CrookedCasper Beck shouldn’t be willingly let girls flirt with him and does nothing about it, KNOWING that Jade would react badly but he lets it happen anyways. Jade has some issues she needs to work out before getting into a relationship with anyone, especially Beck since he’s not good for her by constantly being involved with other girls without any hesitation. Jade had her faults but at least she knew she wanted this relationship and she loved Beck, Beck constantly changed his mind about if he wanted or stay or not. But I feel like he knew that Jade would never truly leave him which is why he felt like he could get away with all these other girls because of Jade’s insecurities and trust issues. Bottom line, they’re toxic together because Jade wasn’t ready for a relationship because of her trust issues, not understanding of what a healthy relationship is like, etc, and she also wasn’t ready for a relationship with Beck who can’t keep it in his pants whenever other girls are around, knowing Jade will get upset but does it anyways.
Also,I think there’s enough info there to go into Kat’s home life and why she behaves the way she does.If you notice the more Jade and Beck argues with each other in the closet the more panicked she becomes and she begins to say “I’m under my bed” and faints shortly there after....I think it can be interpreted as her coming for an a**sive household (idk if youtube censors comments as well)
When they're alone, they're super sweet. But when there are others, they fight
Yeah that's true they are different
I think jade puts on some whole persona of a mean girl so other people fear her
Jade just loved counting! She does it here, in take a hint, when sinjin says she's pretty she goes 3 2 1
These Victorious analysis videos are the best thing to listen to while I'm working on projects.
This comment right here! Warms my heart. Thank you for saying that!
6:40
Wow. You really fooled me at that part 😆 😆 😆
Nah im just kidding it dosen't mean anything took me outt
Fun fact: Beck and jade meet at 14 years old. Because in season 1 when they were 16 and they said they meet 2 years ago.
I didn't even realize how deep "you don't know me" is.
Beck was so chill about everything to be honest.
I thought the writers were very indecisive about their characters especially when it came to tori jade and beck. I always thought they weren’t sure if they wanted tori and beck to end up together or jade and beck. In the first episode it seemed like they were leaning towards tori and beck and there was some episodes were that relationship still lingered, they almost kissed in season 3, and it was never addressed after that, it was really weird how beck was moving rather quick after the break up. It seemed that the writers changed their minds again and continued beck and jade’s relationship because they rather have tori and jade as friends which is honestly better. But then tori and jade’s friendship doesn’t progress at all, jade could still be sarcastic and witty and her soft side could be shown with tori, and sometimes it does and also with cat but a little more character development wouldn’t hurt lol. And that’s one of the flaws with this show, the characters never seemed to grow or progress and when they do it lasts for one episode and they’re back to their normal selfs by the next.
*tori also didn't push her away*
just an alternative emo kid
Tori stoled her boyfriend 😌👋.
CoffeeBean No she didn't.
but she also kissed cats and her boyfriend
CoffeeBean Tori rejected Beck when he was hitting on her and Jade saw it, but she kept being mean to Tori even then, Tori also helped Jade in many occasions for example when she found someone to produce her play and helped her trick the girls from the karaoke episode. But that still wasn’t enough to make Jade treat her better.
I think Jade just doesn’t like Tori’s personality, for many reasons and not just because she kissed her boyfriend. First of all, Jade sees Tori as strong competition. Maybe she was always the lead before Tori came, but that changed as soon as Tori was introduced to the picture, because Tori is not afraid to be the center of attentions. Jade also likes attention, but she usually gets it by being mean, talented or weird, Tori however likes to get attention by being talented too but also by playing the damsel in distress, and that annoys Jade probably because she thinks it’s fake but also because she is the kind of girl who has spent most of her life trying to be tough, so when a girl like Tori who is more vulnerable and eager to please seems to be doing as well as her (having the same friends, going to the same school, and even attracting Beck’s attention) she just feels bothered, Tori is a constant reminder that she didn’t have to act as tough to get what she wanted.
No, she just KISSED BECK IN FRONT OF HER
every single character is an exaggerated high school stereotype. if it’s not toxic they’re doing it wrong.
When you started to read the lyrics it was amazing especially the L-l-l-louder part
She's distrusting,possessive,and emotionally abusive. So yes. It's toxic. Only reasons people think it works is because they're hot. That's it. They have less chemistry then Han and Leia (in the films,I know the novels fixed them)
Well okay, I’ve never seen Jade and Beck sexually assault each other, unlike Han and Leia in that, *cough* *cough* “you want to kiss me scene”...
This seems so clear to me now.
Everyone keeps telling that they are toxic for each other and I keep denying that they aren't. This proves that there is a reason behind their 'attitudes'.
Also....
That is why when Jade and Beck broke up and the episode where Beck and Tori is having a 'Not Date' / 'Friend date'. Jade finally accepted their break up because she finally found a group of people who is willing to not judge her, and accept her for who she is (even though they are still scared of her😂).
Jade finally accepted their break up but still Loves the person who was the first one who loved and accepted and appreciated her.
This is just my input😅😅😅
Well put. Couldn't have said it better myself.
A lot of relationships are complicated, I’m glad to see representation for a realistic teen relationship.
Do an analysis on if a hotdog is a sandwich
Hmmm. I'll put this on file.
ITS NOT A SANDWICH!!
@@blackpinkluv9869 but it is a sandwich. it's meat between bread lol
loona my world let me ask you this, is cereal a soup?
@@blackpinkluv9869 yeah why not? cereal can be soup lol
After tori said “kiss me” during the alphabetical improv, beck could have said “let’s not”. That way he could have stayed faithful and not fail that exercise.
i’m late but he couldn’t. The first rule on improv is always say yes, so the show can keep running
@@luciasoriano1455 personal boundaries in improv are important, particularly with intimacy.
If someone feels uncomfortable doing something like kissing someone or other things that are "intimate", they dont have to. Particularly if they're teenagers
@@Kuaheak2018 yeah i get that, but he’s not gonna risk a grade just by saying he doesn’t want to do it. If he wants to be an actor he’s gonna have to kiss a lot of people.
Ofc he could’ve played it another way, but i don’t think it’s entirely his fault.
@@luciasoriano1455 not all roles are romantic
Honestly this entire video I was feeling like you were about to put a jumpscare.
I knew I forgot something!
Honestly, I kind of feel bad for jade in this relationship. Beck seriously doesn’t treat her right. He doesn’t reject girls who make moves at him, he plays on her insecurities, etc. I’m sure beck truly loves her, but he needs to start showing it.
CAT VALENTINE!!! I have a very similar personality to her and there is smth wrong with me and I wanna learn more
Some guys just like a tsundere, but it doesn't change the fact that it's toxic. I think Jade and Beck have been through a lot and so they've formed a very deep connection, but you gotta know when to walk away. Jade is way too controlling and Beck is way too passive--they need to separate and learn to be happy with themselves
He likes her because she's difficult, but he could absolutely find someone difficult in a different way who has Jade's positive traits like strength, talent, and charisma, but without her possessiveness and tendency to rage. Once they leave high school, she's more than likely to get left when he has better options and she fails to grow out of her bad behavior.
7:52 i lost myself... 8:30 when you said "harder harder" oh myyyyy I'm deceased.
And the 8:39 l-l-l-l-louder 😂
"Beck isn't afraid of Jade"
Me: Tori isn't afraid of Jade too....
About the improv part, I don't blame Beck. the thing about improv is that you keep it moving by saying yes to everything since it's hard to continue if someone says no to an idea brought up by the other person. Tori could've said something else, but since Beck is at an acting school it would be normal. Jade took it to heart and it started a mess. Just my own analysis.
ollybunny Tori was doing that intentionally
You don’t know me is my favorite song. It feels so real for jade and explains why she likes beck. She truly trusts him. Sorta like at the end of the day she knows she can goto him and he will always be able to tell what’s really going on with her.
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7:56 i thought we were going straight for judhead's iconic "I'm a weirdo"
I honestly just love these two together. Beck is the only guy who isn’t afraid of jade. He accepts her no matter how she is. He understands her insecurities
at first glance, jade is portrayed to be the problem in the relationship. but personally i think it was beck. in the song you don’t know me, jade addresses that she has flaws and toxic tendencies, hence why u should stay away from her. but it’s beck that comes back to her, and i think actually amplifies these tendencies. beck many times in the show, allows others girls to flirt with him and even lets tori kiss him on the first episode, so it’s no surprise that jade would get jealous and mad. but in the episode where the two break up, jade gives beck the option to leave, if she was truly the toxic one then wouldn’t she force him to stay, and not only does she imitate the break up, she walks away herself, which isn’t common for toxic people to do. then while the two are broken up, jade as she says in the episode they get back together in, she’s told beck he can date whoever he wants, and the only times she got upset were with girls that had caused her jealousy prior (tori and meredith). but even then, in both times shes ultimately okay with it. lastly, both times that they got back together, it was beck that would go back to her, even the first time when jade injured beck’s dad. beck brought out these toxic traits in jade.
I get Jade's protectiveness, knowing Beck is probably the only person in her life who truly loves her. I'd be like that too. I have to admit, with all the boys I've been close to, my protectiveness and overthinking has only pushed them away. Which is the opposite of what I intended. We do it because we indeed feel like they don't love us enough to stay, but we love them so we get controlling of them to make sure we don't lose them and break our heart. So I guess people like us just need to find a guy who loves us unconditionally and is trustworthy. The guys I've dated both cheated, so obviously, when you find out about that, you're going to become more controlling because you don't trust them. Sadly it has kinda made me distrusted in boys in general. Always has me wondering if they're lying, and pretending to be someone they're not or to like my personality only because they want to get me in their bed. I'm taking relationships a lot more carefully.
jimin is a fairy I guess it takes the right person to treat you right, and the only thing you can do is work on yourself and learn to be happy by yourself. I’m surrounded by good and healthy relationships, which makes me realize there are good guys out there, but it also makes me feel lonely. But you never know when you’re gonna meet that person, so just be yourself and be nice.
YES! I've noticed in *several* episodes that he is the only person that she will listen to direction wise. If Tori tells her to do something, she won't do it, or she'll argue for a long time before saying, "Fine, but I'll only do it because I want to." If Beck tells her to do something, she usually does it, maybe with a little hesitation, but definitely will listen to him differently than she listens to anyone else
I wish they would make an episode on why Cat went , “What if I just dyed my hair?” in The Blonde Squad. I mean she kissed Robbie on the cheek in The Hambone King, so why didnt she like Robbie after he sang, “I think you’re Swell”???
They are a great couple that needs couples counseling. They love each other and are actually a great match, despite the bickering. They understand and support one another in many ways, so they have grounds to clean the toxic parts of their relationship
You have a lot you could do with this. You have Victorious, iCarly, Drake and Josh, and Zoey 101 for things you could talk about. Plus Victorious seems pretty big right now. I'm seeing a lot of clips blow up.
Could always do Henry Danger and Game Shakers too but those aren't as good in my opinion.
I'd love to do an analysis on a whole bunch TV shows including the ones you listed.
I just hope everyone that's subscribing to me doesn't bail the moment I do something unrelated to Victorious.
I would stick to Victorious for maybe 1 or 2 more videos and then branch out after. But hey, it's up to you. You can randomize it, do a poll, or collect the answers you got on this video.
Don’t forget about Sam and Cat! Not as good a show, but features a lot of two important characters :)
Jade isn’t as mean as she wants people to believe. Sure, she’s angry at the world, but she actually has a lot of heart and there are many moments in the show where we can see that. Her “I hate everyone” exterior is a defence mechanism. She obviously has really bad insecurities and abandonment issues and puts up a front, and sometimes acts erratically. But she cares a lot about her friends, even Tori. She may even have the most heart out of all the characters.
I doubt the producers thought about their relationship this much
07:02 was NOT expecting that. 😂🤣
Maybe do a video on Cat and Robbie’s relationship and why at the cow wow she ran away after he kissed her
Honestly they had a lot of issues that are part of why they broke up and they basically ignored any issues when they got back together just to get back together.
she is SO much like me in a relationship.
That asmr singing of jades song kinda creeped me out 😬😂
This was a relationship based on verbal abuse and manipulation... Jade is mean, a bully who can't even be nice to her own boyfriend and Beck was a flirt who knew how handsome he was and didn't stop girls from hoovering around him... this is the epitome of a "toxic relationship"
the first scene made me cry as a kid😭😭
i hate how beck kissed/tried to kiss tori 3 TIMES in the show.
This made me cry because this made me realize my relationship isn’t toxic we just have our issues.
It's so true. We get the Jade insight that her dad doesn't approve of her and she feels like he doesn't love her. It's like she's constantly testing Beck to make sure he won't leave her.
When you spoke the lyrics you sounded like an edgy teens poetry journal