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To be honest, main subject of upgrading the previous series to a new one isn't the right comparison. I don't know a single person in the world, that isn't the biggest PC enthusiast, but just a regular gamer, who actually buys new GPU every generation. Let's say you bought 3060 Ti back in the days and you see that new 400$ GPU is just few percent faster. Are you down because of that? Quite the opposite. I means you'll get by another 2years with your purchase, because the games themselves won't be able to push hardware limits again, since most people are sitting on entry-mainstream-mid GPU's.
But that falls quicly when you realize that you had this, almost exact same path, just 2 years ago. Minus the DLSS 3, AV1 and better power efficiency when it comes to NV cards. I myself was in the GTX 1660 Super category, was waiting for the good 200$ GPU upgrade for years and I finally caved, bought 4070 and that was that. If I weren't this succesful over these years when it comes to salary, I'd probably still look for 200-ish dollars cards and there... is none good option, aside from 2y old RX 6600. Which shows how terrible GPU market has become because of the second crypto boom and NV/AMD pure greed. Sad times, especially for budget gamers, and I'd probably quit gaming alltogether if I was in the 200$ gpu market still. That, or I'd just buy a console.
what do you feel about the good old 1080 ti with 8700k, the best performance for the buck classic, Ive yet to see a game with a issue
@Hardwareunboxed
You don't mention that if people are upgrading their systems, it may be that they have only PCIE 3.0 and with only 8 lines Rtx 4060ti will perform exactly as Rtx 3060ti (or even worse in heavy Vram usage games like The Last of us).
PS : please test rtx 4060ti and 4060 on PCIe 3.0 )
Trying to keep up with the jones
While Nvidia is delaying their 5000 series, I am pretty sure we will see "Super" variants in the time till than. Milking a generation for longer time
As a 2070S owner, my upgrade path is basically 'wait until it breaks, and consider a used card'
Had to scroll way too far for this. 2080 owner since July of '20. Got it on CL for $450. Most I've ever spent on a single component. People spending over $1k just on a gpu are crazy imo. I'll be buying their used cards whenever they get get the itch to shovel another $pile$ onto nvidia lol. That said, I'm up like 5000% on nvda stock so everyone keep shoveling!
Sadly all the used market cards are 3070's and 3080's. Where people want way too much for their 8GB boondoggles.
The 2070S was launched at $500; you can buy now a 16GB RX 6800 XT for $500, brand new, that will give you around 70% more performance. If you sell the 2070S for $150-$200 you can get this 70% more performance for just $300-$350 out of pocket; not a bad deal I'd say.
@@The_Noticer.oh no! a GPU is _slightly_ slower in 1 game because of 8GB of VRAM!
Cope
@@clearlight293and lose out on RT, DLSS, and increase your power consumption by like 30%. What a deal!
My biggest concern is how new generations are being conditioned that poor price to performance is normal. I really appreciate your efforts to track this information and keep people accountable.
the manufacturers are trying to convince that is "new normal" p/c. we just vote by wallet.
People keep saying “conditioning”, but it’s not exactly that simple. To a certain extent people conditioned companies to raise prices.
Honestly there’s a enough blame to go around. During the pandemic and subsequent years, People have demonstrated to these companies that gpu demand is less elastic than they thought. If the pandemic demand was just an outlier, and while gpu sales have declined, they would have and should fallen off a cliff, and that’s not what happened. Basically people are willing to pay thousands of dollars for Pc gaming, and a significant portion will be the GPU. There’s something wrong with the demand , not just the supply portion of the graph.
@@sunnywong9526herea the problem with "vote with your wallet"
It doesn't work, this is Nvidias worst selling generation in years, and Nvidia just hit their highest evaluation point in history
All because of AI and them selling AI hardware, because of that Nvidia can do whatever tf they want to the gaming market, and if they lose money? Who cares, AI will make that money back x100
For Nvidia having 1, 2, 3, or however many gaming generations sell terrible as it takes to brute force these prices as normal, is worth it, because they make thier losses back in AI
We lose either way
@@robertt9342o that's exactly what happened
GPU demand has fallen off a cliff, it's the lowest its been in not 5 years, or 10
It's the lowest it's been in over 20 years
The pandemic was an outlier
The second hand bargain buys will eventually dry up, all will be forgotten then.
Problem solved.
And don`t think it won`t happen, NV has time.
I went from a 1080 Ti to a 6950 XT in january 2023. It's been great. If I had known how fast 7900 XTX prices would fall I would have just waited for that though.
Nice to have skipped all the card issues with the 7900xtx though. I'm happy with my 6950xt!
I’m thinking of this, I’m still running gtx 1080 but my cpu or motherboard died (old i5 6600k) and I’ve had to upgrade to now ryzen 5 5600, thinking of upgrading gpu too but nvidias offering has been meh
@@scruffmcgruff8742 Not really a lot of issues if you buy a good partner card. The real bummer is the power states at idle...it still sucks a lot of energy and it's not 100% fixed.
Yeah I bought a 6950XT and upgraded from 3060ti and I love it just wish I could have waited to get Starfield instead of Guardian of the Galaxy that came with it
@@or1on89 my hopes for AMD is that their next gen is actually good. I mean, in terms of total power draw and power efficiency. Especially with high idle load issues.
Otherwise the 7900 XTX has actually been good.
Agree 100%! Do nothing and wait. Insane pricing WILL get only more insane if people just buy no matter what. Thanks Guys!
Now's the time to upgrade different components, case or a monitor.. That is the nice thing about building your own PCs, you can be more flexible about upgrading when certain parts are excessive in price.
Jensen is trying really hard to be "We have Jobs at home" these days 🤣That AI karaoke sounded desperate af
Prices will not decrease, they will only get more expensive over time. Cars, guns pc parts and many more other things never go back down in price once increased.
Some people don't mind spending more, if you need more gpu power just buy something
Not too different from realestate you can wait but the prices will just keep increasing. Nvidia has ai and other places it can get money unfortunately it doesn’t hurt their pockets to screw over their og base.
The fact that AMD hasn't even announced a 7800 or 7800XT is pretty crazy this long into the current cycle.
They want to get rid of Navi 21 stock first. And they're incrementally lowering prices until that happens. Everyone has a threshold and they know it. That being said, the 6950XT is not universally in stock any more, so we are getting closer. In fact there are only two 6950XTs on newegg right now that aren't from third party sellers, and both are undesirable options.
Becuz 6950xt
The 7900xt is really a 7800xt
Mores Law is dead recently uploaded a video on the 7800 and 7800xt leaks
@@rudytay83
Who cares?
They have product that name is 7900XT and they have product that name is 7800XT. It does not matter what you think the names should be that is irrelevant!
If Sony would release a GPU that has name Fast, and another GPU that name is not so fast and third that is named "Even slower"... what does that mean? Nothing! All that matter is how much speed you get for the money you spend! The name is irrelevant!
if 5060 will cost $2000, do you care... if it is double the speed of 4090ti. If 5090ti cost $300, do you care... if it it little bit slower than 4060... The name does not mean anything. Only the price and the performance.
Current gen prices and performance suck, but the naming is not a problem!
If 7900XT or 4080 would cost $600 I would not mind the name! If 7900XT and 4080 would be double the speed they are, I would not mind the name! Only the price and performance!
The names are actually much better this year! Every xx60 series has same GPU chip, simple and easy! Every xx70 has same chip, xx80 has different chip and xx90 has different chip! What could be better in naming! 4080 12gb would have been bad name! But that we did get rid of. Now every different GPU chip has different product name. That is good! Until Nvidia f** **p it again when they release some new version... Hopefully that does not happen...
For the longest time the rule I follow is to don't worry about upgrades until your games aren't performing the way you need them to perform. For instance, if you're starting to see more and more 30 fps averages, and you upgrade to something that gets you 60+ fps, you WILL notice that and feel good about that upgrade. But if you're getting 80 fps and your upgrade gets you to 110 fps, even if you have a high refresh rate monitor you might find yourself sitting there wondering if it was worth it.
Exactly, I had a GTX770 which I ran lowering the settings over the 4 years I used it until it just couldn't keep things smooth while looking dated. Replaced it with a 1060 6GB and used that for 3 years until it started struggling to get 60FPS at 1080P, replaced that with a 2060S 3.25 years ago and that's holding up very well and it might become a 5 year card for me due to all the upscaling tech being employed now. I've yet to get a game it struggles with. The best part is it just means next upgrade will be cheap because RTX5000 will be just out so 3000 cards and AMD alternatives will be out there for peanuts. As it stands you can get 2080tis for as little as half the price of a new 4060ti so if I wanted an upgrade now I'd probably just get one of those and a tube of thermal paste.
@@Daniel-mw7pu My dream monitor is the Corsair Xeneon FLEX ultra wide, but it's just so expensive. I think I might eventually go with one of the LG QNED based 4K tv's Jayz 2Cents showed in a previous video. They had really good HDR to them, were good for gaming and depending on which model you buy you can get a 55" for $700. So it just makes more sense to me.
Not sure about that one tbh. While sure it financially makes sense, I don't follow this mindset. I now have a lot more disposable income by picking extra shifts and doing double shifts so I can guilt free go overboard on my PC. I barely play anything other than CSGO these days, but I still get a lot of joy every time I do play the games when everything hits high FPS. I still remember how happy I was when I got Shadow of Mordor to hit 144FPS back in the day even though it didn't necessarily didn't improve my gameplay experience substantially.
@@Daniel-mw7pu As much as I really wanna try the OLED craze everyone is so hyped about, this channel has repeatedly said that if you do any non gaming or video work on your computer, you shouldn't buy OLED because of the high risk of burn in. I do a lot of web browsing, etc. Games are only a small part of the time I spend on my PC. Just not sure if its a viable option for anyone else in the same boat as me.
@@rahulahl The LG QNED based tv's that Jayz 2Cents tested are less likely to have burn in problems as they're not actually OLED panels, but are a tech supposed to be very similar. As for the Corsair Xeneon FLEX ultra wide it has burn in protection to help prevent that. Because it's very expensive for a monitor.
Considering how little I spent on my 5700XT and how much performance it still gives me today, I feel like I made out like a bandit. And all thanks to your 5700XT reviews!
Yeah!
Also happy 5700Xt owner here. No need to upgrade at least for two to tree years. So many good years still with it!
Agreed, I got my 5700XT a few months after it came out for... My 1070 plus 100 EUR from a friend of mine. I still feel like I robbed him to this day.
Same 5700xt nitro
I have a Sapphire pulse 5700XT I got right before everything went nuts in late 2020. Emergency purchase, my current card at the time (GTX 1080) lost its magic smoke and didn't want to shell out my normal amount for a card right before a new generation. I was surprised how good it worked! That being said I did upgrade this year as it was totally fine for 1080p, but wouldn't give me the framerates I wanted with the settings I wanted at 1440p.
Picked up a 7900 XTX at launch, been very pleased with it.
GTX 1070 Ti sends a friend request.
I was one of those people that gamed on a GTX1060 up until very recently. I then upgraded to a 6700XT a few months ago so for me the boost has been massive. Memory has come down too so i'm on 32GB of DDR4 now. The only viable upgrade i can think of is one of AMDs x3d chips to max out the AM4 platform for gaming. I guess after 2-3 years I will upgrade again. Realistically i think most people upgrade after around 4 years.
I went all out (within my budget at the time) for a GTX 1080 with the plan of not having to get another card for years and to my surprise it has held up pretty well for almost 7 years now. I recently ordered a 4070 and I think I'll be very satisfied with it for a while. I'm also planning to get a x3d chip to max out my AM4 board because moving to AM5 is more trouble than it's worth for me right now. The 1080 was a beast.
It seems everyone has been doing these types of long upgrades. It's not really due to the lack of good options though. It's due to the cyptocurrency mining causing all the prices of graphics cards to go up to the moon.
I did the same upgrading from gtx 1660 to rx 6700 xt and it was awesome!
I replaced a 750ti with a 6700xt into my workstation… wasn’t a fan of the driver software that AMD has.. plus with no open gl support on the AMD card I switched back to the 750ti and the 6700xt sits on a desk to be used someday in my main gaming pc. Maybe
Just got a 2nd hand 3080 coming from a gtx 960 😂. 2 years warranty left on card for 1/3 original price.
For the first time in as long as I can remember I have 0 compulsion to upgrade. This feeling has been over 6 months and I feel this will continue for quite some time.😊
Well I've wanted to upgrade, but haven't felt like it made any financial sense since the global lock downs ;).
I hear ya I was using a gtx 1070 till 4 months ago when it died, got a heavily discounted 6700xt, if my 1070 was still alive I would still be using it.
Honestly, its probably due to the drought we have on good titles coming out.
Same. Not only the options are bad, but the games are broken on release. The PC gaming industry doesn't deserve my money right now. I will ride my 3060TI through 2025 it seems. And it's fine. Also, turning down settings from ultra to high and just enjoy the game you're playing gives a huge boost in longevity.
@@justinp5669 Still using my 1070ti....to be honest, I'm very ready for a new GPU but i'm going to wait and see if black friday has any decent discounts. If not, I will wait on Intel's Battlemage and hope that it's at least as good as a 6800xt / 4070. Because if it ends up cheaper....I'll grab it almost immediately. It would be fast enough that even my older games would be fine.
I upgraded from a 1660 super to a 6900XT (on sale for $589), which was a 185% performance gain lol.
I don't think I will ever experience such a huge leap from a single upgrade again, which means i won't be upgrading anytime soon because that's the kind of leap I think is worth the cost of upgrading.
I did similar, R9 290X > RTX 3070 😁
Similar here, €530 in Norway in may for a 6950XT, €850 for a 4070 Ti, it's a no-brainer, just let Nvidia fester in their heap of copper and plastic until etailers ban them due to overstock issues. Some etailers are sitting on whole landfills worth of Nvidia boxes. And at €400 the Acer A770 16GB is decent too.
Went from 970 to 3070. 300% the performance and 5 times the TFLOPs!
Same club here, from RX 570 4GB to RTX 3080 Ti (used) it's awesome
I thought for years that gpu prices were extortion. I had a R390 8gb for 7 years and it served well. I don't upgrade often and realized that if I buy a card thats around 1000€ and I have it around five years its 200€ for a year. I finally just gave up and bought sapphire pulse 7900xt. Has been a very nice card so far.
Had a 580 that I recently replaced with a 6800XT that I got new from Amazon for a little over $400USD on Prime Day. Should last me years. Hopefully the GPU market will turn around by then.
gpu market turn around? Prices have plummeted. You can get 3090's for 400$. I see 4080's daily for $500 cheapest prices I can remember for the most part since the early 2010's.
The market has been normal and could be considered good for the last 6 months to a year.
@@maniswil2 4080 for 500 dollars ? Do you have a link ?
@@ritchienithoo9479 Facebook marketplace. I've been a reseller on there for years. GPU's, and used cars having one of the worst years in recent memory.
@@maniswil2 "You can get 3090's for 400$", you must be talking about used cards. Not all sellers are serious, you probably saw a scam ad. No one would be so dumb as to sell a 3090 for a loss that big.
Upgraded my GPU from a GTX 1650 to a RX 6700 non XT about a month and a half ago. And that around 142% performance uplift. So I'm really happy about my purchase!
For me its going to be the rx 6700xt or 6750xt from my rx580 😂😂
yeah i have a 1650 super ... thinking of getting 6700xt or 6750 lol
Yea I went from a GTX 970 to a RX 6750XT. Crazy difference lol
@@wanheda0408 Amen to that, my RX580 died and it was finally time to upgrade. If I had not already a 6800 laying around, I would have get a RX6900 today for less money than I actually spend on that 6800. 600€ for a RX6900 seems actually fine. The upcoming 7800xt might have about that same performance for even cheaper. Looking forward to HUB benchmarks on that card when it's finally coming out.
Love it when Steve is optimistic. :)
Hey I made a single positive PC hardware video this month, get off my back :D
Ah, so you're the one remaining viewer interested in positive content! 😂
@@Hardwareunboxedwe love you Steve 😂😂
@@Hardwareunboxedhey, I haven't seen an outrage post from this channel in 48 hours. you must be shilling again!
@@proesterchen Positivity is good for the mind and soul. Well, that's what my expensive therapist tells me each week.
Last year, I wanted a 6700XT, but I held out because I wanted to see what this gen would bring. I ended up waiting a year and got a 6700XT anyway.
same here, awesome gpu though for 1080p.
@@Koeras16and 1440p
Then you got the 6700XT for cheap I presume. I bit the bullet during the crypto plague and paid through the nose for a 6700XT. I'm very happy with it though.
@@andersjjensen $300 after the crash before last xmas.
😅
I went from a Vega 64 Red Devil, to a 6950xt Oc Formula. Only paid 600$ for the gpu. From what I have seen so far, its faster than the 7800xt, about on par with the 7900xt. I have zero regrets, as gpu pricing has been absolutely crazy until lately. Like you mentioned though unless your spending more money you are not likely to see much of an improvement. I typically wait 3-5 years for upgrades. Went from a R7-1700 to a R7-5800x3d. I feel like my next upgrade won't be until failure or drastic performance improvement (70%+) for around the same $. Right now I can play any game at 4k as long as I don't turn on ray tracing at ultra settings. Ray tracing while neat isn't enough of a visual quality improvement vs the performance hit it brings.
If you call 15% difference no RT on par and ~50% difference with RT on par XD.
I do have the 6950xt as well, it is a great gpu for a reasonable price at the moment.
If people are not upgrading their 1060, imagine how much time they will hold their current gen cards given how decent dlss/fsr quality/balanced looks at 1440p.
Im in a similar boat, have RX580 8GB and i held through pandemic prices. Thought 4070 was going to be 16 gig card with a decent performance uplift over 3070, but little did i know.
Guess i ll stick to clearing out my backlog and maybe wait for next gen cards
@@ThunderingRoar i have an rx 570 8gb and im probably gonna keep it for the next 5-10 years unless it dies
@@detecta I have a rtx 3050 since I had a gt 1030 for 5 years.
1440p + DLSS Quality is 960p which is lower than 1080p. 1440p and dlss quality performs and looks better than 1080p native. I do use dldsr on my 1080p monitor to upscale to 1440p just so that I can use dlss if the game has it.
I don't think it makes sense to hold onto a 1060 6g/RX 580 level card for much longer tbf with the new console generation of games - unless you like 1080p low or medium with upscaling
Having gone from an i7-4790+GTX980 at 1080p to an i7-12700KF+RTX3080 at 1440p last year I think I can wait.
I'll be keen to see where Battlemage fits in all this.
Totally made sense for me. Outed my 2700x, stock heat sink, and an NVIDIA 2060 for a 5700x , an AMD 6750 GPU, and an Artic Cooling Freezer heat sink. Got great prices back in July (right at 650 dollars total) with a 45 percent performance improvement. Think like a stock trader and watch those prices! Be ready to jump on the deals.
I was still in the wait category, but actually noticing my 8 year old i5 6600k CPU struggling in almost every aspect of computing pushed me over the edge. So I built a new machine in May and went with a Radeon 6800, coming from a second hand 1080. Also upgraded resolution to 4k from 1080p for work purposes.
I'm not even mad that my monitor is only 60Hz. I do do other things on my computer than game, so just the extra screen real estate of not only adding four inches of size, but also quadrupling the resolution is better for me than all the high refresh rates in the world. I don't get that much happier from having top of the line things than things that are "good enough for my purposes". As long as it's a noticable upgrade, I'll be happy. Went from a 4650K to a 5600x and SATA-SSD to nVMNE, and jumped a DDR generation. Still nothing special, but the generation gap is huge.
And it was pretty not until I got the 4K monitor that my old box with a 980 Ti started feeling a bit old. So even the probably worst 3060 12GB on the market, the Asus Phoenix single fan model was a nice performance upgrade.At least I got it for about 100 bucks cheaper than a new one. My mate bought a new rig maybe.. half a year ago or so, a pretty nice 13600K DDR5 rig with a nice 12GB 3060. I trail him by 500 3D marks and he paid more for his CPU than I paid for mobo, CPU, RAM and a 1TB nVME drive.
Sure, outside of gaming his rig beats the crap out of mine. But unlike me, he pretty much only games. And we are both pretty much just as happy with our upgrades as the other. My low-end 3060? Performs well within specs for its.. well, specs.
Went from a Ryzen 5 3600 and GTX 1080 ti to a Ryzen 7 5800X3D and RX 6750 XT for about $500CAD once the Ryzen 5 3600 and 1080 ti sold. It was a nice performance uplift especially in newer games like Cyberpunk and CPU bound games like Hell Let Loose. AMD SAM definitely helps too 😊
i went from a ryzen 3 2200G to a ryzen 7 5700x and rx 6750xt 😁
max 25% better performance for so much money lol if you bough a 3080 for the same price ud have 50% more performance loololtorlroltolroltorloltorolrorlro hahahahahaha
haha everybody on the internet is dumber than a doorknob hahahahahahahaha
what a senseless waste of money.... you should have bought at least 6950XT
@@PuppetMasterdaath144 In what world is the 3080 the same price and 50% faster than the 6750xt?
Just pulled the trigger on a 7900xt. I just couldn't bring myself to buy anything from nvid and the 7900xt will be a huge jump in performance over my 1080ti. Even thinking about nvid makes my flesh crawl. I have been watching these gpu vids from lots of folks and the only other card that seemed worth buying was the 4090 but it is just too expensive. I wanna play games not get mugged by nvid.
Please allow me to declare my undying admiration for the 1080ti. It has been one of the truly great cards of the information age. It has powered through every game I have thrown at it plus run my VR for myself and delighted many members of my family. It outshone the 20xx series of cards and made 30xx series worth looking at only when comparing benchmarks. As for the 40xx series nothing there could entice me to invest 2k in a GPU. All Hail the 1080ti.
I bought a 3090ti ftw3 ultra used for $850 and it had almost it's entire warranty left. As an EVGA fanboy, I considered this a major win and good upgrade from my 1080ti
Ye if u can find good used deal u should take it. That "new" excitement goes away pretty fast and then u start to think of the cost was it even worth it ?
Relative the the normalized prices nowadays, good deal you got there for sure. What frustrates me is that prior to the GPU drought back during the pandemic, that tier of card was in the $300-600ish price bracket. The only cards that went near the $1000 bracket were Titans. The scalping market that inflated prices never fell back to it's normal level as supply went back to normal, and that sucks, lol. Ofc, my ex GF dropped $1800 on an RTX 3080 back in 2021 and it was grotesque 😄.
$850 for your card though in today's market? That's something you don't pass up!
@@chipsalom lol!
same here ull upgrade when 7000 series will come out
and a evga, you struck diamond
One sad thing about this is that the Lovelace architecture and node is so impressive and efficient. It could've been an amazing generation.
I mean, it was, NVidia just charged twice what they should have for it.
@@greggmacdonald9644 Yeah, and did annoying things with the product names. Did end up with a 4070 to upgrade from a 1080ti. It's a nice boost in speed and drop in noise. But I do feel 'a bit shafted' (as Steve puts it) on the price.
@@kleinbottled79 Yeah, I agree. I went to a 1080 Ti to a 3080, so basically the same as you, just earlier. Overall, I generally only upgrade GPUs when there's a doubling of performance.. technically the 4090 would have given that to me, but I wasn't willing to pay the doubled price. Next gen will hopefully offer better price-performance, even if I will probably have to pay somewhat more for it.
Ada is nothing revolutionary... They are back on a good node with TSMC, and you're paying out the ass for it.
@@YataLocK What WOULD you consider revolutionary then?
I got a 5600 XT for just over $300 right before the crypto boom. I went looking again back in May now that everything calmed down and got a 6650 XT for $220 and the performance uplift is insane. I usually don't like doing 1 generation jumps, but for that much more performance for less money it was a no-brainer, plus I sold the 5600 XT and put the cash towards the new card, so it cost even less.
I can't really speak on the side of gamers since i'm a video editor/photographer but if you don't piss around too deep in the fusion tab in Davinci Resolve then that 12gb RTX2060 is actually a very solid choice. I got mine for $325cdn plus taxes and it absolutely gnarls through 4k60 video clips from a DJI Osmo Action without even sweating. That thing is a hidden gem.
Intel GPU might also be a good value, especially if you have resizeable bar (it matters at least for its gaming performance but I think it probably also does for other things). It does also support AV1 encoding.
Otherwise I would buy mac if you are purely out to get the best value for purely photo and video editing as a complete new system.
Isn't the 3060 12gb a better option?
@@Toonlink003 it was in regards to its price. But yes a newer GPU of same class tend to be better, lol, but I doubt you can get it for the same price as RTX2060.
@@AndersHass where I live 2060 are more expensive.
@@Toonlink003 then it definitely is better with RTX 3060, lol
I went from a 1070 to a 7900XT a few weeks ago. Got a new Red Devil for just a bit lower than reference card MSRP. I'm super happy with this card.
Very much recommend 7900XT for a good price! :D
That card should have been called RX 7800 (non-XT). You got duped.
@@zdspider6778 All my friends bought 3080s last summer. I said I'll wait abit... They cost 20% more than what my 7900XT cost me now.
If some ppl got duped it was them...
that red devil 7900xt is exacly the one im looking for but its higher than msrp still... im still using my 1060 😅
Yea, I think one detail that this video is missing is that a person that bought a 1070 six years ago probably have advanced economically in his life by now and no longer need to buy GPUs in the $400 price range. And if you are a young person with a limited budget then the 7600 and 6700 XT are both better newbie options than the RTX 4060.
@@chuckwood3426More income usually comes with higher costs as well. Imagine living together with someone, getting loans, kids etc. Things aren't that glamorous as the picture you paint.
Hit the nail on the head Steve. This is the exact boat I'm in - got a 3060TI and I know it's not *quite* there for upcoming games (Starfield etc). But unless I want to move from the 300-400 price bracket up to 600+, there's nothing that offers any real improvements across the board. And even the $600 options don't offerany uplift in Cost-Per-Frame.. just 50% more performance for 50% more money.
Went from a 3070 to a 6800XT a few months back, it cost me netto around 150,- but the difference is quite huge imo.
I agree with most of the stuff here, but there are still some issues in the logic and it is the reasons a lot of people will still buy these cards.
In the example of Pascal owners with a 1070 , yes the 90% performance increase for the same price with the 3060ti would have been a good time to upgrade, but the problem is that 3060ti at MSRP were non existent for a long time after the initial launch. And say about 1 year ago when you could have found 3060ti's at MSRP or close to it, then the rumors of the 40 series came out and all the leaks (including what was covered on HUB) were indicating 2x performance compared to the 30 series so naturally people were thinking it's worth to wait a bit more. Joke was on us because those rumors were close to true for the 4090 compared to it's 3090 counterpart, but no one expected nVidia to decrease this performance bump the further down the stack you went (opposite to how previous generations went) to the point where you reach the 4060ti that is pretty much equal to a 3060ti.
So yeah we now have 10 and 20 series owners who skipped 30 series due to the crazy mining boom and who eagerly anticipated the 40 series thinking it would be better and are having a very hard time waiting another 2 years for 50 series (mind you the 5090 might come earlier then this , but the 5060 for sure won't).
I'm exactly that person, I've had a core i5 build with 1060 6gb since 2018, for the most i was happy until i got into VR in 2020, upgraded to a 2070 super about 6 months before the launch of the 30 series, which even then i regretted, because if i had of waited, i could have had the 2080 super at almost the same price once the 30 series did launch when all the vendors were trying to offload them cheap, not knowing how much of a disaster the 30 series launch would be... But 3yrs later, my motherboard finally died which means it's now time for a full upgrade. With a better job, more money in my pocket, i want to go all out with the best system i can get that will suit my needs and be somewhat future proof, the price per performance of previous gen 30 series compared to my 2070 super compared to 4080, i can't help but lean towards the 4080, especially if the 50 series won't be coming out for another 2yrs potentially... I have considered the 7900xtx but i have read conflicting reports whether it will work with my gsync monitor...
@@maxnaz47 The only Ngreedia card worth buying is the RTX4070
That’s what Nvidia is anticipating. I’m willing to hold out with my 2070 super because I mostly play older titles that it can still handle just fine. I know there are people who play the latest or poorly optimized Triple A stuff, and holding out will be more difficult, but we can’t give Nvidia (or AMD) any incentive to continue this trend of stagnation. We are at a point where, if your current GPU is only 1 or 2 generations old, it only makes sense upgrade if it dies or if you use your PC for work.
@@LuigiGodzillaGirlthis stagnation will continue as long as people did not move beyond 1080p. on steam survey i think still over 60% of gamer still on 1080p.
the reality is it is no use to release faster card when majority of people did not buy them. then we got the internet flooded by the minority enthusiast raging how their 4060 did not perform as fast as 3080.
@@arenzricodexd4409 I think that percentage is decreasing as 1440p gets more affordable, with e-sports and ultra budget gamers becoming the primary market niches that will stick with 1080p.
And I’m not as delusional or optimistic as my post might have made me out to be. These companies know why gamers aren’t buying these cards. They just don’t care because we have always played second fiddle to the enterprise market, not to mention they’re making HUGE bank with AI.
My last GPU upgrade was a 6600 XT from a RX 580 8GB, I bought the 6600 XT for the exact same amount of money that I paid for the RX 580 and it's a 100% performance improvement.
Interesting, I got the same old RX 580 8gb. What CPU are you using?
@@gummi4977 Ryzen 5600 non X.
"Payed" 😂
@@jjhhandk3974 Thanks for the correction.
@@ryomario90 ah i believe you already had a setup with pcie gen 4th too? i want to try the same upgrade as yours but still got mine ryzen 3500 with B450 board.
I agree with you on upgrade vs new overall, however if someone has a 10 series or 20 series Nvidia card they could get the 40-70% upgrade at the same price point by just going AMD and getting a 16GB 6800XT or 6950XT. Both of which are around £400-600 and Both of which can be found for cheaper than the 4070 ti.
No reason to just follow the upgrade path provided by the same company.
still holding on to my 1080ti. It's still amazing for 1080p even in AAA games. looking forward to the next generation to burn some cash
Same here, I only play WoT on a 60Hz panel at 4k, pegged at max settings. Pascal was (and is) really something!
Solid card for 4k as well
Yup hanging onto mine too. Been working fine at 1440p
Today's gaming gpu market: The only winning move is not to buy.
WOPR would be proud
or just get a decent job lmao
@@joejoe5921 That's right stand up against those evil consumers who want to question the those corporations with their price rises, it's only natural because of inflation.
I usually wait 5 or 6 generations. My last one held me over for that amount of time before I got my 2060 strix and I have no problems with it, I dont do much ray tracing, and it pulls more than enough frames in all games at 1080p. I dont really play 4k and dont have a 1440p monitor. Plus I got my card used from an amazing seller so I didnt really get hit with the unreasonable price hike the 20 series got, combined with the performance gains of the 30 series. I really enjoy it and I hope a lot more people are happy with their Graphics Cards, especially older ones. Sometimes, it really is better to hold off a little while on an upgrade.
Fully agree with your conclusion. Gamers, if hardware permitting should tweak their graphical settings and lower their expectations if they don't want to spend an arm or a leg on a new GPU. It's fairly evident what the latest gen is trying to achieve, but with a lot of people on the fence waiting might not be a bad idea after all in hopes of the flood gates of performance opening in the next gen of GPUs.
majority of gamer most often just want to play the game even if they have to turn the setting to low. that's why most popular GPU on steam end up being 1650.
Like playing gta6 in 480p with dlss ON😅 on launch day
This has been my upgrade path so far on the X470 platform. 2700x, GTX 1070 to 5600x RTX 3080.
X470 platform has been excellent.
Only upgrade when it makes sense with value or when you *need* an upgrade to meet the demand you require.
Same here, on my B450 platform I went from a 2600, RX570 to a 5600, RX6700 10gb!
when you look back at AM4 on release, who honestly would of thought how much use you could get out of it, my x470 is now a 5 year old board, maybe more since i forgotten when they released, ive had a 1700x, 2700x and now a 5800x3d on that one board and had massive performance uplifts from every upgrade and now ive ended up with a 7900xtx on what is a 5 year old platform which can still hang with the newer platforms. Ok i don't get PCIe 4 but I don't feel I'm missing out.
@@crookim why 10g lol, for a lil bit more you could've get the XT version 12gb
ALL 2hands for me... and always 2hand , specially GPU:
b350-R5 1600 buy 2hands in bundel with a 16gb ram , more than 4y a go pair with a GTX 1080 . bios flash ,swap a 3600 got for 30 bucs after I did sale my 1600, pair with a 2080. Bios flash ,swap with 5600 (the only item I buy new under promo for 129 bucs) after I sold my 3600 for 100 bucs , pair with a 6800xt buy for 400 bucs 2 mouths a go.
I will move to AM5 maybe in a couple of years ( when become good deal in 2hand market) because for me a good base platform its a plus.
@@noWoodsman there's always a "little more" to have. you could've spend 5-10$ more to get faster CL ram. you could spend a little more to get a 5600x or even an x3d if you are living near a microcenter. it's easier to compare net gains from the money you spend vs what you currently have, and see that your upgrade is still substantial without spending "a little more".
I just had a quick check:
Radeon 6950XT is currently available starting at 640€ in Germoney. The PowerColor 7900 XTX Hellhound edition is sitting at 950€ for a while now. So yes, it may be bad times to upgrade your last gen gpu. But then again if you're sitting on a 2070s or lower, a 6950XT for 640 bucks should give you a nice performance bump that doesnt hurt your wallet too much, if you're in Europe - cant tell for NA or SEA though...
Its even worse with taxes here(one of the SEA countries). Imagine people celebrating the 7800XT release because of its 499 price tag while our import and luxury tax bumps it up to around 600 dollars
Someone said taxes??? Bruh, my friend is bringing me a 6700 xt from the USA, for 320 USD... if I try to buy that same GPU in my country, I have to pay 600 USD, 😂😂😂😂
Stupid taxes man
@@innerarts4091 Its just plain stupid to buy a gpu abroad and then import it to another country. If I was to buy said 6700XT in the USA and ship it to Germany, I'd have to pay taxes according to the US state I bought that card in (between 2 and 11% afaik), then add 19% VAT + customs duties, so I end up way more expensive than buying it in Germany in the first place. 320$ is pretty much 300€ right now, add 19% VAT and you'll be at 357€ + customs duty. So whats the point of importing hardware when you end up with higher prices than buying local, when I can get the card at local vendors for ~340€ anyway?
Feels like VRAM is one of the only major reasons to upgrade lately
For what, 2 or 3 poorly optimised games?
true i "upgraded" from a rx6650 to an 2080ti and memory was a big factor.
@@Jonathan-Roden do you work at Nvidia?
@@Rucarlos Tell me why you think he's wrong. Most people will get on fine with their 8gb vram gpu's when settings are scaled correctly aside from the select few games. You can hate nvidia and objectively look at facts at the same time.
@@Rucarlos I run 6GB, don't need more.
My RX 6800 is lasting me longer than I thought it would due to the reasons brought up in this video, just gonna wait for next gen.
Thats a great card, pretty efficient too
@@evilleader1991 and pretty cool in apex legends temps around 49c to 51c
I bought one of these a year ago not just because it was far, far more powerful than the RX 590 I had before for similar power draw, but more efficient than the 6800 XT whilst possessing exactly the same memory bandwidth. As games start to take real advantage of that 16GB framebuffer, I can see the performance gap between the 6800 siblings (not to mention the 6900 XT) shrinking a little, whilst of course increasing the gap to its NVIDIA rivals.
Boy, I really feel this video. I had a 2060 Super and sat on it for a while waiting for RT to really kick in, but the 4xxx series has been a terrible value. And it really felt bad continuing to support Nvidia, so, since I'm a 1080p gamer anyway, I got a 6700 XT just today and it's a great upgrade and a reasonable price for that. GPUs really suck right now, there's just nothing appealing.
I waited 2 generations to upgrade. Going with AMD this round due to the insane pricing NVIDIA is pushing on the 40 series.
Beware the soy faced redditors that will scream at you bc of a 2 frame drop when Ray tracing 😂
@@caioaugusto3138Ray tracing isn't even ready for the mainstream in my opinion. The performance isn't really there, even with Nvidia cards. I just keep it off.
The issue with AMD gpus is their inconsistent gpu clocks and fps. I have 8 systems on x570/Zen3 5600 or better all with 6600xt/6700xt and one 6900xt and they all suffer from this. Some games have like a cpu bottleneck sort of feeling with the card not even hitting peak clocks without any caps in place. This is on 8 systems all with good parts , cooling with xmp / sam enabled.
@@45enoMy xfx swft rx 6800 has been perfect gpu clocks average 1380 consistently out of the box frames never drop paired with a intel 12400 rebar on 32gbs 3600mhz ram.
@@mrhappy8966 Do you actively monitor utilization and FPS? 1380 is not even regular clocks for a RX6800.
I run a 34" 3440x1440p on top of my main monitor and use Afterburner usually to watch the graph of all utilizating, temps and FPS. Newer games like Doom Eternal, Jedi Fallen Order run much better but many games not even that old will show my clocks dip while FPS dips as well. As if something is holding them back. I would be willing to bet there are many AMD users that simply don't know the card is having this behavior unless they were really watching for it. Basically accepting the performance it gives. It would be interesting if this was only happening on AMD based systems, if Intel systems were allowing the RDNA2 cards to run differently.
But again I have 8 fully built systems that are all fairly similar. Asus, MSI, Gigabyte X570 boards, 32-64gb 3200-3600mhz RAM, 5600,5600x,5800x,5900x CPU's. Some games are great others the cards ramp way down like for example Minecraft even at 4k resolution the GPU clocks aren't maxing out. I'm thinking hey GPU wake up there is no reason to be clocking down when their is no FPS cap in place. If I want insane 500 fps in a easy to run game , give it too me. Stop down clocking for no reason. Almost as if the CPU isn't keeping up.
Buying Rtx 3080 was still the best decision I made 3 years ago, following my gut feeling I snatched 3080 before the mining boom. gotta admit Nvidia sold me when they introduced 3080 at 699 although I bought it for 900 ish (basically the best deal in my country). the value still holds to this day, especially after I downgrade my monitor to 1440p. mind you I upgraded from 2070 super. Now I am in a long run, skipping 1 generation is normal, but after seeing 4000s value propositions, I feel like my PC is still in next gen territory, and made me love my 3080 even more
I feel the same way about my 6800xt
Yeah, I'm pretty happy with my 3080 ( @ 1440p) as well. It'll do nicely for me until 5000-series is out.
Went from a 1060 to a used 3080 for $460 a couple months ago.
I have a 10GB 3080 and I thought I'll just stick with that but now games like Resident Evil 4, The Last of Us Part I, Miles Morales are crashing due to VRAM issues, I don't know if it's gonna last. This is just in two damn years.
The next gen cards are not going to be less expensive, either. In fact, I'm pretty curious if Nvidia will choose to either increase the price by a little bit, 50 dollars, or more like 100+ dollars.
This is a great piece. I am asked alot about when should someone upgrade and my answer has never changed over the years, upgrade when you NEED an upgrade. Do not get caught up in benchmarks, look at your gaming experience. If your game play is smooth, stable and looks good then there is no reason to spend a bunch of money to gain a performance boost.
IF your system has performance issues then this when you look at upgrades.
To be fair, the reason I have been upgrading is my sis needed a pc and I actually got a decent paying job (compared to what I had when I build my last system) so it seemed like the right time to pass my old system down the family and get myself a new shiny one :) Also, playing Cyberpunk and Darktide, not gonna lie, I wanted those shiny new features (yup, I know thats how they get you....)
Upgraded from a Riva TNT to a 4090. It lasted me a good 24 years. I was just clearing out my backlog. I hope this one lasts me another 24 years.
As long as you can run Quake III arena you're golden.
@@ifrit35 It kept me going over the years. I remember upgrading to a Pentium 4 socket 478 3GHZ processor in 2003. 2GB of Corsair ram that was $225. I’m joking Ofcourse in my previous post. In 2004 I upgraded to an ATi X850 XT. That card was $400 back then. It was the 4090 of its time if I remember correctly. That’s before AMD ruined ATi. My first graphics card was a Voodoo 2 12MB. It cost $299. Graphics cards have always been expensive.
@@Adamchevy Oh yeah I remember the 850 XT, they even made a platinum edition which was the king of agp graphics card. I was drooling over that thing. Meanwhile I had a 6600GT back then.
@@ifrit35 I was wrong, after doing a bit of googling I found that the X850 XT launched for $549. I remember starring at the prices back then at Micro Center in Henderson LV. I couldn’t believe that I was going to spend 2 of my summer paychecks on a graphics card. But oh how beautiful Quake 3 Arena looked and ran on that beast. I had a Sony 24” GDM-W900 that ran natively at 1920x1200 at 85hz. I picked it up for $300 from a reseller in San Diego. Those were great times to be a PC Enthusiast.
@@ifrit35 The card I really wanted back then after learning about it was a 6800 ULTRA. I think that was the best card for Doom 3 if memory serves.
I'm glad I've stuck with my Hercules monochrome graphics card. Still working like a charm in my original IBM PC.
The 6700XT, 6800 and 6800XT have been going for very cheap prices on used market.
Can recommend those.
I got a used 6700XT in my 2nd PC for 270€ and it's a great 1440p card in newest games.
No crashes, works nicely, I been a nvidia only user since GTX 580, last time I used AMD it was still called ATI.
But now anything below 4070 on nvidia side of things is too little vram or too expensive.
I bought used RX6600 last December, a mining card and it's used 100 watt only which is why I love this cards.
Price of this card is USD 149 or MYR 670.
As a 1080ti owner, my upgrade path is basically, "wait until it breaks and even then consider a used card"
enough power for fhd and also enough Vram
1080ti is still holding but some games it may struggle.
@@GameReplays-maybe it would struggle on 1440p that s why I upgraded it, but it wont struggle in fhd
@@GameReplays- Nah, I dont think so. OK, if you need to max out everything maybe. Besides that, underrated GPU
@@Tkozuh exactly. Its insane how it could even qhd
@@catfishxX yah I always max out the graphics setting.
Good points made Steve. I can't find a smart upgrade to my 2080ti right now.
The 4080 costs the same as the 2080ti did (in the UK) but really doesn't seem enough of a performance leap to justify the cost.
The 4090 has the performance leap that I would expect two generations later. But the price is insulting and the high power draw makes it much more expensive long term.
The 7900XTX very nearly swayed me based on raw performance and price. But again the high power draw on decent partner cards was a turn off (similar draw than the 4090 but for less relative performance). Along with AMDs drivers having a bad rep and their cards missing some Nvidia only features that I do use and would miss. So on deeper consideration the 7900XTX didn't actually seem cheap enough to compensate for those.
Right now I'm holding on/hoping for a 4080ti release to bridge some of those gaps. It's a weird place to be in.
the 7900XTX has DisplayPort 2.1 where the 4090 only has DisplayPort 1.4 for more money
The 2080 Ti was also a laughable ripoff.
I’m in the same boat too but honestly will just wait. The 11Gb of VRAM is still more than enough giving me around 100 fps on my ultra wide for games at 1440p.
I thought the $1200 at the time was ridiculously expensive but like the 4090 it is in a different league to the cards below.
But had the card now for going on five years which equals just under $250 USD a year. If I get another 1-2 years out of it before the 5080-5090 that will be closer to $150. Not bad when u look at it like that, but if the 4090 was $1200 it would have been reasonable.
2080 ti buyers are the first guilty consumers of this new price trends. 2080 ti was one of the worst value GPUs. It's funny to see 2080 ti owners think they are smart
@@Estbarul Personal attacks at owners of certain cards speaks volumes about you.
The 2080ti was a beast that still plays most games on max settings 60hz at 1440p and some at 4K. It was never going to be cheap, especially during the crypto shortage. That's how the market works.
Sometimes people/companies HAVE to buy components within a certain timeframe and don't have the option of waiting for prices to lower... which they never meaningfully did after the 2080ti anyway.
Im sitting on a 1080 that I've had since 2017 (500€) and I think I'm actually going to have to wait for the next generation to get a meaningful upgrade.
4070 would be my go to this gen but I just don't want to pay that much when gaming becomes less and less of a focus for me
wait for the 5000 series
get ti... im destroying every game easy
I agree, I have a 1080FE paid 700+€ in 2016 and I would also choose the 4070 but I will wait till my 1080 dies rather than giving more money to Ngreedia for a cut down shitty GPU on a less than 256 bits bus!
Got my 1070ti back 2018 and I’m in the same boat. I just went ahead and started building a new computer with my 1070ti and putting that $600+ elsewhere.
Got 980 Ti for 626$ back in 2016 and still haven't upgraded. Can my pc handle new games well? Absolutely not. But I just don't see the point of upgrading anymore. For 600$ you can only afford mid range gpus, so what's the point? Might as well just play new games on everything low at 480p and then eventually buy a console.
I recently upgraded by AM4 5600X system from VEGA 56 to a RTX 2080 Ti for $330. A significant gaming upgrade on multiple levels.
A few years ago when the chip shortage was in full swing and my current gpu broke, I settled for a 1650 super thinking to myself that I'd get a 3070 someday. Fast forward to today, Nvidia's been making it hard to upgrade due to their shady business practices and asinine pricing. This led me to try buying used and I now have a 3080 I never would've otherwise thought I can afford. Definitely happy with my choice as I got a really good card for cheap (relatively speaking) an none of that money is directly going to Nvidia's pockets. Now I just hope the card lasts me for at couple of years because I doubt the GPU market as a whole will get it's act together anytime soon.
Just check temps on the card and if they creep up even a little repaste them with something very high quality like mx-6. Also make sure and keep your fins clean. I use a workstation for gaming and my card stays clean 24/7. I will always use workstations for my computing needs, they are just so rock solid and they cool AMAZINGLY plus used they are very cheap.
My 1080 Ti still hangs in there. And I will hold on until prices are better OR if necessary the next gen is better.
Thank you for your advice, always appreciated.
I just upgraded today from a 8700k + gtx1080ti. My new build is 7800x3d + rtx 4070ti
Do I need it? No. Do I want it? Maybe. Nothing else to spend on, so just build a new PC since it's 5 years old.
@@jamesmadison3108 Upgraded my CPU to that same one too recently because my old i7 4790k was getting a little bit rusty. The GPU still has some juice in it but I will maybe buy that particular one you mentioned here too OR buy a 7900 XTX because prices there are getting better and better and on top I have 24 gigs that will be enough for 4k for the forseeable future. And if I am lucky AMD can finally manage to release FSR 3, maybe. But not completely sure yet what I do.
@@Hexenkind1 i chose 4070 ti because got it at a good deal of $750 usd for the Zotac Amp Extreme 4070TI. It has DLSS 2 so it seems a good option. But i only play esports titles so actually...a 4070ti is overkill for me haha.. i currently only CSGO and will play CS2 when its out.
I've been stuck on a 1080ti forever trying to get a decent upgrade so far the only decent upgrade costs a fortune. its only this year however I have felt the biggest performance impact on this old beast of a card with the new Starfield game really hammering the fps down. most games I have have ran well on fairly high to ultra settings but I try to price a decent card that is a huge leap and end up looking at cards nearly 3x the price. the 3090ti is a beast for the price though and was one I was considering. 7900 XTX looks like a fairly good card and then theres the 4090 all cost about as much as the entire system when I built it 3-4 years ago. as I carry the gpu over between builds. I did try the Ark 770 gpu mainly bought it for AV1 video encoding its very good at that. I mean even hogwarts legacy runs fine on the 1080ti. but Starfield its barely breaking 30 fps and starting to finally really show its age at this point. just the upgrade path is leading me more to AMD at this point for the 7900 XTX as it seems to be quite a beast. I ran a Ryzen 3900x for a while and ended up having to go back to a 8700k because it died. so yep time to shell out thousands on a new build. lol just scraping by. 8700k runs nice at 5ghz though so that's something I guess.
Well....guess it's sticking with my 2070 Super for another year, though from what I see gaming at 1440p with it is becoming increasingly hard. On the other hand, there is such a thing as playing bit older titles, not like I don't have options.
I'm totally satisfied with my 3060 Ti so I don't plan on upgrading for at least a year. Now that EVGA is no longer making GPU's , I might try an AMD card next time.
Nice to hear, I'm looking at upgrading from a oc'd G3258 and 1050ti to R5 7600 and a used 3060ti as they're about US$250 in my area. All the used 6700xt's are 30% more for what I understand is similar performance. I know anything will be a massive upgrade but honestly the only new title I've bought in years was Hogwarts and that's diving the upgrade. I figure getting a 3060ti would be enough to go ultra at 1080p which is all I need as it's on my living room TV. In the future years when I upgrade the TV to 4k hopefully there will be many more Gpu options that'll support that then. More cost effectively.
If you somehow managed to make it this far on a g3258 (even if oc'ed to the moon). You would be served well to just drop in a 4790k or 5775c, both still hold up quite well and will blow away your dual core in any remotely modern title.
@solocamo3654 Haha no it's not oc'd to the moon. The most used games in our house have been Kerbal space program and Timberborn until Hogwarts came out and the pc is obviously stuttering a lot with that. Looks like I can get a 4790k for US$100 locally so I'll take the recommendation for consideration, thanks. I'm assuming though when the TV finally goes and I move up to 4k with gpu (hopefully by then more cost effectively) it'll still require moving to another cpu/ram/mobo? My original thought was just to do that now. I'm also concerned that my pcie 3.0 motherboard won't be able to get me the full output of a 3060ti/6700xt+ I'd like to have 1080p (for now) with all the bells and whistles. Appreciate the reply. As you can tell I've been out of the gaming/PC community for many years and have spent the last week learning a lot as I try to get back up to speed.
@@paulbarton5322 If you are willing and have the money to do a full system swap, I'd recommend it. I'd also at minimum get a gpu with at least 12gb of vram or more, especially with how long you seem to keep pc's.
However, if money is tight the 4790k even if used short term can still be sold when you have enough for a proper new system. As an example I kept my 4790k from 2014 until 2021 as my main PC, and it was last paired with a gpu close enough in performance to the 3060ti (oc'ed Radeon VII). That said, I had sold that card and upgraded to a 6900XT when I moved to my i9 10900 in 2021 and at 4k, pci-e 3.0 was never a problem. I only recently moved to a 11900k as I was reusing my 10900 for another system. I'm now using pci-e 4.0 and haven't noticed any difference due to the pci-e change. For the games you play, you may find that a 4790k will still last you at 4k, just don't expect performance to match the latest and greatest cpu's by any stretch. I'm still using my 4790k as my living room gaming PC and it's rock solid outside of heavily threaded games (such as BF2042) but it was still definitely usable.
My gaming PC was built in 2010 and is now older than some gamers. It is half the age of my now adult and college graduated children. Yet after maximizing all upgrades on that computer, I've been waiting for the right time to build a new one. It has not come yet. The thing I never expected is that that PC would physically last 13 years. Never missed a beat. Intel i7 first gen, with 16GB RAM, MSI motherboard, Silverstone 750w PSU, MSI GTX 1050 (final upgrade), Samsung SSD and Soundblaster card. Antec case. IT was $1300 when originally built. I added about $500 in parts and went through three operating systems. It works well for what I do with it. Really could use a faster machine for Photoshop. However, the constantly growing greed of the graphics card makers and previously the crypto price bubble have made me realize that i can still get by with that PC. It just keeps on ticking.
I just bought a RTX-3060ti to replace my GTX 980ti. I didn't see a need to go 4xxx series, and Its still a 100% improvement over my aging 980. Super happy with the price (I didn't expect that).
I'm in a similar boat; 900 series Titan X to a 3090Ti just a couple days ago. Nabbed that 3090Ti for 900 bucks. I would have stayed with the Titan if it hadn't finally died of exhaustion. 😮
@@shisa2834 That's quite the step up! I am anxious to compare my New card to my current one. (my new card is still being delivered)
How much was the 3060 Ti
@@TheFailman69 $350. They had cheaper models, but I wanted the one with a large heat exchanger and 3fans.
I've did a similar performance upgrade, went from a GTX 1070 to a second hand 3060 Ti in 2022 September.
Definitely noticed that difference, its still working with no issues and I don't think that I'm gonna upgrade anytime soon since its enough for everything I'm playing.
We're only 1 year away from the 5090 release in the best case scenario. It'll probably take way longer for them to release stuff like 5070 and lower.
There’s already rumors of 5000 series being delayed until late 2024. Nvidia won’t release new stuff as long as people aren’t buying current stuff.
@@joemarais7683 since they couldn’t even sell their 30 series stock yet i bet we won’t see 50 series until 2025, 40 series are not selling at all with the exception of the 4090.
Yeah! 2025
5060 128 bit 8gb $500, if lucky 12gb
5070 192bit 12gb $1000, if lucky 18gb
5080 256 bit 16gb $2000, if lucky 24Gb (with 3gb memory modules)
5090 $5000
😂😂😂
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LOVE the background mix up for the mid shot dude!!
I usually upgrade only when I stop getting decent frames when playing games. This typically means skipping 2 or 3 generations until I play newer games that are more demanding. I wonder if we keep getting insignificant leaps in future generations, would it stall games from being more demanding/improving graphically.
The main reason why developers demand more GPU/CPU performance is because they can become lazier and do less optimisation. It means they can fire more expensive developers and hire less senior developers for less money. If everyone is honest most people don't notice the difference from the average game today to a game 5 years ago is quite minor, unless the game uses more features like ray-tracing. I skipped 3 generations from GTX 970 to RTX 4080 (although I was planning to upgrade to 3080 but then COVID and crypto happened).
Same here and I haven't found a game worth upgrading for. Armored core will probably run according to minimum requirements
I think it all depends upon what you are upgrading from and what you upgrade to. I myself just upgraded from a RTX 2060 6 GB to a RX 7600 and I'm getting double the performance if not more with the new card for close to 100 dollars less than I paid for my 2060.
i have gtx 1660ti, and thinking about rx 7600 :D i think it will be good upgrade, and i can sell my gtx for fair price.
@@Kules3 Its a good card for the price I feel, I don't think you could go wrong with it from a 1660ti and gaining 2 extra GB of VRAM is a big uplift from 6 as well.
I think the best thing to do these days is just to ask oneself. How many of the games I play actually justify an upgrade? Can I wait playing those games and concentrate on the ones that run well on my hardware? And are those few games that require more modern hardware, worth the cost!?
I currently have a RX6800 due to my interest in VR.... but if I didn't have VR, I would realize that I mostly play older online games, simpler indie games, and older backlog games (like Titanfall2, Witcher 3, Deus Ex: Mankind Divided, Prey etc.) To this day, the only two modern games that interest me are the new Phantom Liberty Cyberpunk expansion and Baldur's Gate III.... I could still wait to play those games... In the light of that, objectively something like a GTX1060 or 1070 would suffice for 99% of my gaming needs outside of VR. And even if I want to play those two games, I would actually be leaning much more towards signing up for Geforce Now under a 2-3month period to complete those games and go back to my other games. It's just way more cost effective than keeping up to date with the latest tech. Latency is a thing, but If I play games more casually through Geforce Now with a controller it actually feels good. Server latency is 2ms, so it mostly feels like playing games with double buffer vsync.
At the end of the day it all comes down to doing your homework with reviews and comparisons before you purchase a new GPU and deciding if the performance uplift and other potential benefits is great enough to justify the price. I generally upgrade every 4-5 years and have been doing so since the 3dfx Voodoo 1 days. I definitely agree that both Nvidia & AMD are sandbagging on prices with the current gen of cards, especially considering the paltry performance uplifts in anything other than the high end cards with those cards just being stupidly expensive!
I'm on a 4 year old rx 560 so going to a 6700 tx might be double the cost of what 560 was at the time but I'm getting double the performance + 1440p with 144hz capability. Road through the chip shortage with ez but now it's crashed. It's best to buy while the prices are back to normalcy
i'm still on a 2080 ti from 2019 and while the enthusiast side of me is itching to upgrade, the GPU market in general and particularly NVIDIA's side of it feels very cynical and scummy to me right now. the prices have ballooned up so much these days while they try to offer pitiful amounts of VRAM for these new cards that it kinda takes away a lot of the thrill of even thinking about new graphics cards for me. it's all just a big bummer to see how they've priced and positioned mostly everything in the stack under the 4090
From i5-4460 , 8gb ddr3 ram and using intel integrated graphics in that cpu to i5-10400 and rx 5700xt ,bought it as secondhand though. I5-10400, h510m-pro and 16gb ddr4 for 154 usd and rx 5700xt for 134 usd . Im really happy with the performance jump from my 4th gen pc.
I went from gtx1050 to rtx3060 and I'm still extremely satisfied. By the time I want an upgrade it'll be around the 60 series onwards.
I have 3060 12GB and It holds up and will keep holding up! The only Nvidia budget card with 12GB VRAM I thought It was a bad purchase but now Im satisfied!
@abelszerepi7845 you were right in thinking it was a bad purchase. The rx 6700 xt is the better purchase everyday. But atleast the rtx 3060 is better than buying a 4060 lol. Grats on that I guess😅
who the hell upgrades their PC after just 2 years anyway? yeah i know enthusiasts, but how many people actually fall in this category? tech channels should focus way more on how most people use PC gaming: buying a new PC every 5-6 years.
Every 4 years is the sweet spot for pc upgrades
Yeah but as I said in this video, doesn't matter if you upgrade every 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6 years. It doesn't change the fact that this generation mostly sucks and you were best off upgrading a year ago when the crypto boom cooled off.
I just upgraded my gpu to a 2nd hand 1660 super from a gtx 660ti after 10 years as I can't justify anything newer for the money. Its a huge leap and Im happy for now.
@@Hardwareunboxed I know. But what am I suppose to do with that information now? :D Can't go back in time. I'm sitting here on a 1060 and I wanna treat myself now with a new rig running on AM5 with a 6700XT. I don't see any better option for me now. Don't wanna wait 2 more years.
I upgrade when it dies in 15 years.
I built my first PC coming from Xbox late 2019. I initially got a prebuilt with a 2080 super, but it blue screened after 2 weeks and I built my own PC from scratch and got a 2080ti/i7-8700K instead by shifting my budget around. Swapped my CPU and MB for a 5800X in summer of 21. Just recently got a 4090 after saving up for 6 months. Super happy with everything and won't upgrade anything else for another 6 months to a year when I'll probably get a faster AMD CPU to keep up with the 4090. I hate Intel now, and won't ever go back to those power hungry mini GPUs. Anyways I just want to say if you plan for the future you can have anything you want. You just have to save up slowly and have specific goals.
It whould be interesting to see a GPU comparison which shows: "how much power do GPUs consume at exactly 60 FPS".
My 4090: 'all of it'
@@RTSchofield well a small spoiler: capped at 60fps i saw 4090s consuming around ~180 to ~250W. Depending on the game and resolution 1440p/4k.
It would be interesting to see how efficient other cards perform capped in 1440p & 4k @60FPS.
Ppl without the need of more than 60fps could deside to buy a different product if they knew this stuff.
@@lukasandreasl.7004 yeah i was joking. I've undervolted my 4090 quite aggressively. Never see it go past 210 watts. Also never seen it go above 55c!
Not a good question. Should be pick a game at 4K ultra settings and then ask how much power do GPUs consume at 60 fps. Because CS GO could consume 50-100W and Cybepunk will consume 450W+ at ultra path tracing for a 4090..
i play on 60hz so always with vsync, with 1660 Ti , undervolted , at 1950 core, it pulls max 95w
Thanks! I was actually struggling with this recently worried about VRAM on my 3080 but I think you bring up a lot of excellent points as much as it pains me to wait it makes the most sense to because otherwise I need to move to the 4090 which as you pointed out is more then twice as much.
Or you know... AMD
Because with a mid-ranged GPU, every 1-2 years your GPU is useless in the same resolution because of all the post processing it's being added, even if the amount of geometry is the same (not even gonna count the VRAM issue from better textures), you need to go from either ultra/ high settings (which don't look realistic enough so what is the point of dropping them anyways, the point is down below) to mid, and then low each year, which means that you need to buy a GPU every year or 2, which is actually a premeditated tactic so you are forced to buy the top of the line GPU so you can keep it at best 5 years so the GPU companies can make the most profit they can instantly, or if you can't, you still forced to buy a mid-range one once per 1-2 years which is even better for them because it becomes the same thing as a subscription and when they jack up the prices you get the worst value while they always profit for more.
That's how the GPU market works, especially since NGreedia took the lead since 2012 and has set the standard, even AMD takes advantage of this but to a less degree so it's not seen as greedy as NGreedia, so don't think AMD is a saint, we all saw the price increase when 5700XT was launched only because NGreedia did a price increase first and AMD followed.
I got burned with my 6600xt purchase during the 2021 crypto boom, bought mine for 550$.
My next upgrade will definitely have to be x2 perf and vram of my 6600xt, similar power draw and not more than 550$
I also made that mistake, £450... I was really thinking it would hold its price (about £300) even if the crypto boom fell but it's more like £160-180 used
My Rx 570 I bought for £100, used for about 3 years and sold it during the boom for £150
@@HaddBradd yeah, FOMO got me hard. well at the very least I was able to help a friend by selling my 1070 to them when I upgraded to the 6600xt, and their 1050ti was also sold to another friend which let us play more games at the time.
For 1440p, a used 3080 is a good option to wait for the 5000 series, or you need to buy a 4080/4090 and you will be fine up to the rtx6000 series or rx9000.
Or for the same price as a used 3080 you can buy a brand new 6900 XT or 6950 XT that will outperform it, and you'll have 16GB of VRAM so you never have to sweat a new game coming out and crushing the 10 GB VRAM.
I bought a Asus R9 290X OC edition card on 25 June 2015 for R5,035 (ZAR) (at the time $415). This card I first ran with a 4th gen i5 until I upgraded to a Ryzen 3700X in November of 2019. I upgraded from the R9 290X to a Gigabyte RX-6700XT Aorus Elite on 4 November 2021 and it cost me R13,199 (ZAR) (at the time $867). This upgrade as benchmarked by myself afforded me between 80% to 100% performance increase in FPS depending on the game. The problem is on my 60Hz 1080p 23" screen I cannot see any difference in performance. I see no change. Now to appreciate the monster that I bought I have to buy a 27" 1440p screen with high refresh rate over 100Hz. Those cost around R7500 or more ~ $415. But I play very nice on my 1080p screen. Hogwarts legacy, RDR2, Far Cry 6 and I've pre-ordered Star Field already. These all play very nicely. So I'm struggling to find a reason to give out money on a new screen when the old one still works really well. A colleague of mine bought the R9 290X and is happily playing Fortnite on it (a waste of the cards value if you ask me). So I'm wondering if I made the right move upgrading. The only real value/upside for me so far is the 12GB of vram I have above the 4GB of vram of the old R9 290X. Hogwarts legacy would have sucked on the old card I'm sure. So why in the world would I want to upgrade my graphics card right now. I must be crazy to consider it.
My upgrade path was a steam deck. I do some performance adjustments per game with the cryo utilities and decky loader. Also game with a 8700k/2080. I'll wait to see what the next steam deck have to offer steam OS was a pleasant surprise.
I 100% Agree with this, as I currently have a GTX 1060 as of writing this comment, and I'm pretty much forced to upgrade with options today. I am currently considering getting an RTX 4080 as it offers the best performance, although with terrible pricing ($1800 AUD) that my budget can withstand. NVIDIA just wants to, as you said, upsell, as I see the 4060ti as literal E-Waste/Tax write-offs. So for an upgrader like me, we are basically forced to look at even more expensive cards to get better performance that will last a few years. And yes there is AMD, however, NVIDIA's features are what is making me stick to NVIDIA, honestly, I'm not against considering AMD.
I upgraded my ryzen 5 3400g to a ryzen 5 5600 and added a discrete graphics card, where previously I did not have one, I have been using the integrated graphics for games like Elden Ring and Fallout 4. I paid $211.83 (post-tax) for XFX Speedster SWFT 210 Radeon RX 6600 CORE Gaming Graphics Card, with Starfield being included in that price as a promotion. I paid $160.03 for the CPU, again post tax; so all in all I paid $371.86 US. Pulled the trigger yesterday, just waiting on the parts. Have ddr4 3200mhz 16(2×8) with a b450 tomahawk max. I've been using the 3400g since the start of the pandemic, and I think this upgrade makes sense for the pricepoint
I have been dissapointed with every major release the last 4 years. Now I'm playing one game and one game only. WoW Classic Era realms. And my 2017 8600k+1070ti strix OC. Is pulling 200+fps on max settings. So no upgrade for the coming years planned.
Thats the way!
Only upgrade if you cant play the games that you would enjoy anymore.
My 1050TI is still going strong! Just recently played Bio-Shock max-Setting and it has been great!!
You guys should do a 20 series matchup with current gen so we can see all the different 20 series against the current gens
The very reason why we need h610 boards video. Pointless to upgrade from an i5 12400f to i9 in the future. Better off getting the latest combo after 5-6 years
Sure is expensive. I “lucked out”,picking up a 7900 xtx for $800 usd during the sales this week. Guess it was better than the $1k msrp at least.
$800 is a great price for such a premium card, congrats!
I did the same, got the 7900XTX Red Devil for a little over 800$ as expensive as these cards are now that purchase I think was pretty solid, that's the closest thing to a good deal I could find on a card like this one
Hardware Unboxed's video on the RTX 3070 8GB, limited vram situation, a couple of months ago now, was (I would say) one the influencers of why I took a BIG leap to purchase the RTX 4080. Thank you! But personally, I'm done! That's it. I've invested, it's an increadible card and performance for the gaming I do, and I've grown weary of concerning myself with GPU tech. Can't do it anymore! My main thing, after spending $1200 plus USD is if I'm having FUN...because I tell you, if I am not, then the money spent means little or nothing! *I am done with GPU 2023 content*, I swear. I am utterly over this...and no, I don't want to anticpate something "better" that may come out in 2025. I don't care anymore. I'm just going to enjoy what I have...with no worries!
So?
$1200 on one component to reach that conclusion.. not my $ so w/e but damn, sounds like drinking the gpu kool-aid to me.
@@EhEhEhEINSTEIN…fr, played right into nvidias lil hands
@@EhEhEhEINSTEIN it's what I wanted to do...my hand wasn't forced, no one "put a gun to my head", no "kool-aid". For me, the 4080 is an excellent choice. The point I'm making is do what is best for you, and that gpu tech in 2023 has become redundant.
@@pimmanders2261 Thanks for the support! 👌
I bought a used 1050 back in 2017 for 100€, at the time my target was the witcher 3 at 30 fps, while waiting for GPU prices to fall, the Witcher played at 40 - 50 fps so I ended up keeping the card until 2023, then I got a 5600XT for 125€, it was a massive upgrade for around the same price, I get 60fps on Cyberpunk, except when I'm CPU limited, so the next upgrade would be to swap my 2600k for a Ryzen 3600 or 5600 if I can find a Mobo+Ram+CPU bundle for under 100€, if not I'll just wait some more
Budget gaming is the way
This is not always the case over the years/decades. Lots of times you are able to get a decent upgrade with a decent price, particularly in the 2nd hand market. Personally, I usually swap GPUs when I can get one that is around 150% of performance of my previous one. I upgraded from a 2080 Super (bought late 2019) to a 3080 Ti (used, late 2022), and I'm happy with the performance jump. Sold my older card and a bit of money back which was nice.
@Birbgsa decade ago was 980ti. It's pretty reasonable to call that an upgrade
@Birbgs cba "decades in plural implies 20 years or more, which is what they said"🤓
Hey Steve/All, some relevant experience here: In 2018 i finally had the money to fulfill my childhood dream and build stupid expensive PC. Top of the line x470 board with 2600x (with the idea for an upgrade when AM4 gets end of life) for GPU i put 1080TI. 20xx series was just announced and i realized that discounted 1080TI is the best way and you know upgrade later. Few months later my 1080TI decided to render a real life explosion in my PC so i got the hated 2080 replacement and it had served me well until recently. Yes 8gb VRAM is making my life miserable at 1440p. In december of last year i got a 5800x following my upgrade plans and as expected my productivity tasks shoot through the roof, but the second the new gen GPU's where out i realized i will not be upgrading it this gen. I am not a fan boy i care not about brands at all. All i care about is what i can buy for x amount of money and which is the best. This gen is just bad to the point where people i know (hard core PC gamers) just got playstations. I really hope next gen redeems itself or we might be looking at the death of PC gaming as we know it.
Legit the PS5 and XBone Series X offer crazy value for the money relative to the cost of a similarly spec'ed PC.
Upgraded from my 2070s to the 6800xt Nitro+ SE at the beginning of the year and couldnt be happier, great card and upgrade
I think the more impressive thing with 3060TI generational improvement was not the difference between 2070 and itself, but rather the fact that 3060TI was almost on par with the previous 1199$ flagship 2080TI
Impressive but anything with 8GB VRAM has aged badly.
Yeah somewhere along those lines. Though it shouldnt be misinterpreted as the 3000 series being awesome. The 2000 series was just dogshit and hardly faster than the 1000 series. I remember reviews at launch saying that at 1080p the 2080ti is just 10% ahead of the 1080ti.
Sucks that the mid range is so bad. I upgraded from a 3090 to a 4090 when it first released and honestly it's a very decent increase in performance for the price. It feels like they're really trying to push people into the top tear products.
mid range is so bad because clowns keep buying 90-tier cards that cost $1500 every generation
@@tyre1337 Yeah, that's why 😂. Pretty insane to blame people who can afford to buy 90 tier cards for the failure of the mid range.
ofc they are. the 3080 was far too good in theory, so good in fact, that the 90 was basically dog shit for anything but production work. now they made the 80 and below more expensive, closing the price gap and at the same time the performance difference to the 90 increased. meaning much worse value due to two factors for anything else.
@@AdamBrackney Its about if the value matches the pricing. And that is to decide for the consumer. Very often the consumer is not educated so they scam themself. Some people exist out there that buy a 4090 to play minecraft or hearthstone for 2 hours a week.
@@dAt3q Yes, in those examples I'd agree, it'd be pretty dumb to have a 4090. However I do think that most owners are running 4k monitors and or VR. I also personally have a blast using stable diffusion and LLM's locally.
I recently upgraded my GPU from a PowerColor Radeon 5700XT Red Devil to a PowerColor Radeon 6800 Fighter ($450 on Newegg) and I'm loving this GPU so far. Diablo 4 in Medium settings runs at 140 FPS.
Timespy Extreme: 7685
Next upgrade will probably be a Ryzen 5800X3D
CPU: Ryzen 3900X
CPU cooler: custom loop, 2x 360 radiators
Motherboard: ASUS Crosshair VIII Hero
BIOS v4501, Resizable BAR enabled
RAM: G.SKILL F4-3600C14Q-32GTZN (3600, CL14)
GPU: PowerColor Fighter Radeon RX 6800
SSD: Corsair Force MP600 PCI-Express 4.0 x4 NVMe
PSU: EVGA 1000 P3
Case: Lian Li O11 XL
The weird part is AMD becoming competitive again has driving the price of CPUs down across the board, but has not done the same thing for GPUs. I think it has two parts, AMD taking up til now to get close enough and accepting that they can make a lot of money if they do not compete on price starting with this generation. Just accept higher pricing and screwing over gamers. I hope that doesn't spread to CPUs in the future because it is new behavior for them in the GPU space.
I kept my EvGA 1060 6gb all through the 3000’s cards because I was so excited to see the 4000’s gains, now I feel like an idiot for not nabbing a 3060ti but also I don’t want a 4060ti because I’m already limited in Diablo 4 textures at 6gb, I can’t imagine 8 is a ton better. Just kinda sucks. 4070 I guess
It’s amazing what performance you can get out of old tech, two of my brothers are using intel 1st and 2nd gen still. In the process of upgrading between us to two am3 platforms, and one x99 that we just got. Probably won’t upgrade again for 5 years or more. Maybe a graphics card in between to carry it over
I am extremely happy with upgrading the same build 5 years later.
In 2017 I spent around $900 USD to build a mid-range gaming PC. R5 1600 / RX 580 8GB / 16GB DDR4-3200CL16 / 256GB NVMe / 8TB HDD / 750W 80+ Bronze PSU on an Asus B350 Prime board.
Roughly 5 years later, I spent another $900 on the same build. I now run: R7 5700X / RX 6800 XT 16GB / 32GB DDR4-3200CL16 / 1TB NVMe / 8TB HDD / 750W 80+ Bronze PSU on the same Asus B350 Prime board.
I am extremely happy with upgrading the same build 5 years later.
I'm a hobby builder, and I'm frustrated with the lack of decent options to do new builds for clients. Wish these companies would sort themselves out.
Running an old system with a 1070ti and lots of lower end parts in a crappy case. I'm gonna hold out to replace the whole system, waiting on the 5090. I've saved for years and could get a new system now with a 4090, but I figure it's worth the wait for a variety of reasons. 1-I want to go 4K and by then the new gen LG OLED monitors will be out 32" or 45" ultrawide in 4K at 240Hz with a next gen display port. Currently if I want 4K OLED I'm stuck with the 42" TV or the 42" Asus monitor with the lower pixel density and the 120Hz refresh rate and have to use HDMI to maybe saturate that. 2-The 5090 will probably actually be able to push 4K ultra towards the 240Hz refresh rate and should have the next gen display port. 3-New power cables that don't like to catch on fire. 4-By then I should be able to get the 15th gen Intel CPU so my new motherboard will be good for a while rather than one gen. 5-By then the new Corsair Link fan systems should have come down in price quite a bit and there should be plenty of competition on the market for minimal wiring ARGB cooling to choose from. 6-By then DDR5 ram will be much cheaper and have the kinks worked out. 7-High speed Solid State storage is already dropping in price like a rock, by then it'll be dirt cheap. I have a game library of well over 1500 games and I like to have them all there at the ready cause I'm a weirdo. 8-I am pushing 60 years old and anything past 4K Ultra settings 240Hz will be simply beyond my ability to perceive so this new rig should last me till I croak.
I just ordered the parts for my PC upgrade. I was still rocking an i5-7600 and an AMD RX480 4 GB. Now I will be playing on a Ryzen 7 5800X and an AMD RX6950XT. As far as I know I will be getting 4 times the performance I have now and can't wait to get the parts and start building. These parts cost me 1240$ (including motherboard, psu, aio, 1tb nvme). My current PC cost in 2016 around 700$ so I see this as an absolute win for a good future-proof PC.
If I had any graphics card from the nvidia 2000 series or amd 5000 series I would have probably waited a year to get the newest stuff. Very disappointed in the 40 series. Lucky for me I'm a team red guy
Couldn't agree more! I'm Currently Running an old AMD X370, with an overclocked 1700 @4.2ghz and a 5700XT all with EKWB's. Going to drop in a new 5800x3d and a second hand 6800xt and sit on that for the next 3-5 years then ill upgrade everything to a new platform. Unless of course my Motherboard dies on me in that time frame.
I bought a 4080 for my first pc ever on prime day. I now must starve myself for 2 weeks until my next paycheck. I had Twix for lunch yesterday
I have an RTX 3080 FE 10g. I was concerned about VRAM with new games and would like to get a good 4k OLED monitor when a good one finally comes out.
I chose to upgrade during New Eggs tech event. I was able to get the Merc 310 7900 XTX for nearly the same price as the 3080 because I got the 100 dollar starfield bundle, the 79000 xtx was 100 off, and I got another 100 off when using the New Egg financing.
I spent about 700 on the 3080 and I am getting the 7900xtx for about 799. I plan on selling my 3080 as well. I think I'm coming out fairly on top in my scenario.