Discover the reasons behind the Toyota Tacoma sales slowdown, including potential transmission issues in the 2024 models. Stay informed about your vehicle! #toyotatacoma #tacoma
I wonder if they’re taking the same business model approach to save money and try to see how much they can write out on their brand name of being reliable and dependable cars…
Really a rash of poor decisions by Toyota recently. I work for a non-automotive Japanese company (IT). A common Japanese tactic when things are not going well is to restructure. I would predict we will see a major restructuring at Toyota this year.
Yep we had a 2018, and now are in 2024 GH. Wife loves it but it’s the 1st year. So far one safety recall. I’d wait for the kinks to work themselves out. Just remember you lose the window hatch opening.
I really appreciate your support. I’m severely disappointed in the new line of Tacomas, tundras, and I hope our 2024 grand highlander won’t fail on us soon… there’s a safety recall already.
TFL sold their Tacoma, so they'll never have to worry about taking it on snow again. I'm sure that's just a coincidence, though, since they scoffed at selling it about a week before and they still have their other trucks from this model year.
Good video, glad I’m not the only one feeling something’s wrong. I’d hold off from buying a Toyota for a few years to see if things smooth out and things change for the better for buyers. Good advice John, thanks
Yeah, I’m super sad to see how Toyota quality has definitely gone down because I’ve been a hard-core Toyota guy for over 15 years plus. Thank you for your comment and I appreciate this support. Thank you for watching.
@@SoarAndMore I think it would be compared to Taco sport 4x4.. Now the ZR2 would be compared to the TRD Pro 4x4. Two Saturdays ago, I was at my local Toyota dealer and even the sales manager was trying to sell me a TRD Pro with a whopping price of almost $65k and that’s not out the door😂
@@danielpilachowski2424 absolutely not- Covid money printing has made everything super inflated. Everyone would literally have to stop buying good and services for like years to get the prices back down. Toyota quality has gone down.
@@danielpilachowski2424 Nop, I wouldn’t be surprise if the job lay offs in North America begins by September or October of this year. Basically down size… Manufacturers saw the advantage of buying frenzy during Covid, they are trying to create an unnecessary pandemic like buying frenzy. This time, the common people are a lot smarter than during Covid. There will be massive lay offs on vehicle manufacturers world wide.
Dude! I know. I truly pray this is only a bump in the road for Toyota and I hope that greed is not involved with this. they’re speculation out there that Toyota wants to make cars that only last 3 to 5 years so it keeps you coming back to buy new ones over and over again. This will coincide with what I learned in business school for having a product lifecycle that way you can have a repeat customers..
Great video. I truly feel sad for those Tundra owners and others in the recall. They are spending hard earned dollars on what they expected was quality. I myself am glad I decided on a 2022 Frontier. It's been a great truck. Hopefully Toyota will take care of all their customers.
I pray you are right. It took 2 years for them to cop up to the engine issues. I think Nissan is an underdog here in this whole debacle. Thank you for the comment. The frontier seems to be solid so far!
Hi John just found your channel, great videos and commentary. I’m saddened by the state of Toyota today and unfortunately I highly doubt they give a crap. Bottom line is corporate greed rules with the only concern being how low can we go with quality and how high can we price it. The only reason I was a loyal Toyota customer was quality and reliability which the new Tundra and Tacoma prove is most likely gone. I didn’t love always paying ‘more’ for a Toyota but was okay with it because I knew I was purchasing something that was reliable and would last. With all that said I’ll admit that I guess I’m still a bit of a ‘fanboy, I just bought one more Toyota and most likely my last…a 2024 4Runner, built in Japan with an OLD design that I know will be reliable and will last. Keep up the great content!
I think you’re safe with the 2024 forerunner as they are now changing the generation and it will be built differently under a new product lifecycle plan. Well, at least that’s my speculation. I really appreciate you watching my videos and I appreciate the support. I’ll see what I can do to keep pushing videos along, but it’s tough when car prices are so high and I may not be in the market for a long time. I wanted to get a tundra we saw how that fell apart.
Stress on car makers from the government on “low emissions “ and all the other ramifications economically and socially. I’m skeptical on any car maker now. How you been Dan the man?!
Yes that’s correct 78,000 plus or minus. Seems to be a common issue unfortunately. The evaporator had a leak and it’s a big job. It’s a $60 part but is buried deep in the dash. So the whole dash has to come out to include steering wheel and center console. They wanted to charge 2350$ for the job but I got them down to 1651$. I would have done it myself but it would have been a long process…
Yep, my AC was not covered under warranty when they said that it was so I drove there brought the truck to them and they said oh we’re sorry it’s not covered under warranty. So it ended up costing me for the initial quote was $2300. I found a way to get it down to $1617 out the door. It was actually a really big job for a $85 part.
@@SoarAndMore yeah but how is that shit not covered under warranty bro? I don't know your situation how old it is if you bought an aftermarket warranty miles and so forth but don't feel bad I bought my truck brand freaking new and live in Phoenix and when I went to turn the AC on it didn't even work and they made me wait a week to bring it in did not offer me a rental and I work construction so I'd like to have AC after working my ass off all day drying in the heat. They put the hose on incorrectly from the factory the o-ring was swollen & cause the freon to leak out... Then my truck got stuck in four-wheel drive I was just using it to make sure the solenoids don't seize up and I always thought something was wrong because it never worked properly and they tried to tell me it was from water intrusion trying to get out of fixing it I told him the truck has never even been off-road you better fix my truck lol
You’re not kidding about dealer service. I stopped taking my wife’s RAV4 to the dealer when it took 2 weeks to get an appointment. And then they want $100 for an oil change! I change it myself for $50!
2024 Tacoma has a small gas tank 18.2 vs 3rd gen 21.1 and almost the same MPG’s…for the price you pay? No hood gas struts..my 2001 Camry had two gas hood struts..why ? Tacoma has NO gas hood struts…
I think everyone is turn off by the price alone,,,,, not to mention reliability is down the toilet!!!!! My whole family are Toyota brand but with this outrageous pricing we’re leaning towards Nissan cuz still has NA V6
@@SoarAndMore I have only test driven the Colorado Trail Boss (ZR2, though more fairly priced for what it offers IMO is still out of my reach) so I can’t honestly speak to it. I think the big question mark from all of the manufacturers right now is how long will these engines hold up, especially when they are pushing 84 month financing. The Ranger has been running their power plant the longest of the turbo charged mid-sized trucks so in terms of a proving ground they probably have the biggest head start, I just personally like the looks of the Colorado Trail Boss or ZR2 better than anything else out there right now of mid-sized trucks, and when you tack on the fact that a new Colorado Trail Boss can be found for under $40k brand new that makes it a very intriguing option.
Buy, use and properly review a 2024 Tacoma and probably the video will not be useless. I’m a 2024 Tacoma TRD 4x4 Premium owner without any of the problems you highlighted in the video. Also I was a 2020 TRD Sport 4x4 owner and I can tell you it is an improved truck in every aspect when compared to a 2020 TRD SPORT Tacoma.
Why would I buy something that expensive and already has transmission issues? I’m not reporting on ownership, I’m reporting on why it’s a really bad time to own one. You are more than welcome to make a video on yours. (Doubt you will)
@@SoarAndMore thanks, we picked up a 2023 40th and put a few bucks in it to make it our own-they are the last of the simple and very reliable vehicles made-have a great day
@@SoarAndMore that’s what I don’t understand. Here in Nothern Wisconsin they are not that bad. Are the dealers marking them up or adding a bunch of installed options to increase the price?
@@paulnirschl6500 next time I go each dealership here has an “addendum” add on. Could be things like pin stripes, and window tint.. stupid stuff one can do on their own. And yes it increases the price. One dealer charges $7995 of that stuff. The dealer in the video charges $1885
@@SoarAndMore yah that seems to be the problem. I paid 36k for my 2019 TRD Sport 4x4 and got 34k trade in for a 10k difference over 5yrs. That’s not bad considering vehicle prices usually increase 2-4k a year.
To understand these prices you need to go look at Ford and GMC. They are all expensive. And your premise that Tacos aren’t selling is a myth. Dealers can’t keep them on the lots.
Trust me, they’re gonna start piling up now with high prices and also them having transmission issues. I went back to the dealer and they still had 14 on the lot. No movement. Must be regional. I’m in Florida and people don’t wanna pay the insurance premiums plus a vehicle that now has a potential to crap out on you.
@@tonylatham5915 in the forums if you look a little more, over heating issues are more common. Way more common. Every CZcams video from people who “test drive” the new Tacoma seem to gloss over that like no big deal. Now the transmissions are failing. You can down play it. That’s fine your opinion. Would you get on my airplane if I told You other airlines are having the same issue? Up to you. I’m on my 3rd Tacoma … I’m disappointed in the quality.
I think the whole political system and how every sitting president lately has just printed money like it wouldn’t do anything to us in the US. It all started when we went away from the gold standard… such a tragedy we are all having to pay for…
Yeah, they have not been doing too well lately at all. Now the Tacoma on their first generation are having issues with the transmissions overheating. Other reports are they are starting to skip gears. And in the manual transmission gears 24 and six are breaking.
Do some research! The problem with the Tundra was not the fault of the engine but a manufacturing problem. They didn't clean metal fragments out of the block after machining.
That's why I am happy I have a 2021 Highlander with a V6.
Keep it! I miss ours. My wife still likes the grand highlander better
Just called my dealer all the grand highlander is on hold until the recall is clear
I dang. A gentleman posted and said that it would take 30 to 60 days as he was a driver for shipping Toyota vehicles.
Toyota has had record profits as of late. Corporate greed is the main enemy. The solution is to not buy new vehicles until prices come down.
Such a great point!
52k for a damn 2wd and 4cyl
Stupid expensive, but unfortunately it’s everywhere.
Toyota is turning into the Hyundai/KIA dilemma. Good grief!
I wonder if they’re taking the same business model approach to save money and try to see how much they can write out on their brand name of being reliable and dependable cars…
Really a rash of poor decisions by Toyota recently. I work for a non-automotive Japanese company (IT). A common Japanese tactic when things are not going well is to restructure. I would predict we will see a major restructuring at Toyota this year.
I hope so. I love Toyota and right now I’m severely disappointed. I had a 2006 Tacoma that was absolutely bulletproof.
@@SoarAndMoreI still have my 2005 with over 400,000 kms and still strong lol !
Toyotas new direction ‘lets make throw away trucks for the fanbois’
So far it definitely seems that way…
But they forgot how they got those fanboys.
Goodbye Tacoma 2024, welcome Nissan Frontier.
Definitely seems to be the direction!
It is time for Toyota corporate to do the honorable thing.
Totally agree!
Was thinking getting one of those but after learning about their problems... just purchased a Canyon AT4
Awesome. How much was your Canyon? Just curious.
@@SoarAndMore I'm in Canada, so in C$ 58800.
I believe it's called corporate greed
One of the many factors
thats not inflation, thats Toyota pricing
@@jellyroll556 pure thievery
I looked into getting a new one I'm just going to keep my 2018
Yep we had a 2018, and now are in 2024 GH. Wife loves it but it’s the 1st year. So far one safety recall. I’d wait for the kinks to work themselves out. Just remember you lose the window hatch opening.
great coverage. thanks for a job well done.
I really appreciate your support. I’m severely disappointed in the new line of Tacomas, tundras, and I hope our 2024 grand highlander won’t fail on us soon… there’s a safety recall already.
TFL sold their Tacoma, so they'll never have to worry about taking it on snow again. I'm sure that's just a coincidence, though, since they scoffed at selling it about a week before and they still have their other trucks from this model year.
Why did they sell? I know they had the front axel issue. They even mentioned the transmission over heating.
They buy and sell trucks after testing.
@@TRT-TRD gotcha. They had issues with theirs as well. All transmission.
Good video, glad I’m not the only one feeling something’s wrong. I’d hold off from buying a Toyota for a few years to see if things smooth out and things change for the better for buyers. Good advice John, thanks
Yeah, I’m super sad to see how Toyota quality has definitely gone down because I’ve been a hard-core Toyota guy for over 15 years plus. Thank you for your comment and I appreciate this support. Thank you for watching.
I was just at the Chevy dealer in my city and talking to the salesmen, an out the door price for Colorado Z71 is almost $53K! Lol!
Is that compared to the TRD pro taco? Cause a 2024 TRD pro taco is $75k… crazy
@@SoarAndMore I think it would be compared to Taco sport 4x4..
Now the ZR2 would be compared to the TRD Pro 4x4.
Two Saturdays ago, I was at my local Toyota dealer and even the sales manager was trying to sell me a TRD Pro with a whopping price of almost $65k and that’s not out the door😂
Do you really think Toyota will lower their prices on cars and trucks?
@@danielpilachowski2424 absolutely not- Covid money printing has made everything super inflated. Everyone would literally have to stop buying good and services for like years to get the prices back down. Toyota quality has gone down.
@@danielpilachowski2424 Nop, I wouldn’t be surprise if the job lay offs in North America begins by September or October of this year.
Basically down size…
Manufacturers saw the advantage of buying frenzy during Covid, they are trying to create an unnecessary pandemic like buying frenzy.
This time, the common people are a lot smarter than during Covid. There will be massive lay offs on vehicle manufacturers world wide.
Crazy how the king manufacturer of reliability has engines blowing in new models.. this world is getting crazy.
Dude! I know. I truly pray this is only a bump in the road for Toyota and I hope that greed is not involved with this. they’re speculation out there that Toyota wants to make cars that only last 3 to 5 years so it keeps you coming back to buy new ones over and over again. This will coincide with what I learned in business school for having a product lifecycle that way you can have a repeat customers..
Great video. I truly feel sad for those Tundra owners and others in the recall. They are spending hard earned dollars on what they expected was quality. I myself am glad I decided on a 2022 Frontier. It's been a great truck. Hopefully Toyota will take care of all their customers.
I pray you are right. It took 2 years for them to cop up to the engine issues. I think Nissan is an underdog here in this whole debacle. Thank you for the comment. The frontier seems to be solid so far!
Hi John just found your channel, great videos and commentary. I’m saddened by the state of Toyota today and unfortunately I highly doubt they give a crap. Bottom line is corporate greed rules with the only concern being how low can we go with quality and how high can we price it. The only reason I was a loyal Toyota customer was quality and reliability which the new Tundra and Tacoma prove is most likely gone. I didn’t love always paying ‘more’ for a Toyota but was okay with it because I knew I was purchasing something that was reliable and would last. With all that said I’ll admit that I guess I’m still a bit of a ‘fanboy, I just bought one more Toyota and most likely my last…a 2024 4Runner, built in Japan with an OLD design that I know will be reliable and will last. Keep up the great content!
I think you’re safe with the 2024 forerunner as they are now changing the generation and it will be built differently under a new product lifecycle plan. Well, at least that’s my speculation. I really appreciate you watching my videos and I appreciate the support. I’ll see what I can do to keep pushing videos along, but it’s tough when car prices are so high and I may not be in the market for a long time. I wanted to get a tundra we saw how that fell apart.
Bring back the V-6 ..I am sure they can increase the MPG’s!
I really love that comment that is a good call
What a mess.
Stress on car makers from the government on “low emissions “ and all the other ramifications economically and socially. I’m skeptical on any car maker now. How you been Dan the man?!
@SoarAndMore you are right. I've been good, not much to report. Glad to see your channel growing!
You left out the fact that the re-design is a step back! They took their best selling truck and made it look exactly like the re - call king!
Recall King- that’s funny. Looks like the transmissions are crapping out
@@SoarAndMore ok so I misspelled recall, the truck is still fugly and expensive!!!
@@michaelharris8228 that’s hilarious!
Love it man!
The tacomas are blowing transmissions at low mileage
Here comes the recall!
Did you say that your 3rd Gen Tacoma’s A/C went out on you? How many miles are on this vehicle?
Yes that’s correct 78,000 plus or minus. Seems to be a common issue unfortunately. The evaporator had a leak and it’s a big job. It’s a $60 part but is buried deep in the dash. So the whole dash has to come out to include steering wheel and center console. They wanted to charge 2350$ for the job but I got them down to 1651$. I would have done it myself but it would have been a long process…
They always trying to get out of repairing shit under warranty
Yep, my AC was not covered under warranty when they said that it was so I drove there brought the truck to them and they said oh we’re sorry it’s not covered under warranty. So it ended up costing me for the initial quote was $2300. I found a way to get it down to $1617 out the door. It was actually a really big job for a $85 part.
@@SoarAndMore yeah but how is that shit not covered under warranty bro? I don't know your situation how old it is if you bought an aftermarket warranty miles and so forth but don't feel bad I bought my truck brand freaking new and live in Phoenix and when I went to turn the AC on it didn't even work and they made me wait a week to bring it in did not offer me a rental and I work construction so I'd like to have AC after working my ass off all day drying in the heat. They put the hose on incorrectly from the factory the o-ring was swollen & cause the freon to leak out... Then my truck got stuck in four-wheel drive I was just using it to make sure the solenoids don't seize up and I always thought something was wrong because it never worked properly and they tried to tell me it was from water intrusion trying to get out of fixing it I told him the truck has never even been off-road you better fix my truck lol
You’re not kidding about dealer service. I stopped taking my wife’s RAV4 to the dealer when it took 2 weeks to get an appointment. And then they want $100 for an oil change! I change it myself for $50!
It’s crazy! Don’t blame you!
2024 Tacoma has a small gas tank 18.2 vs 3rd gen 21.1 and almost the same MPG’s…for the price you pay? No hood gas struts..my 2001 Camry had two gas hood struts..why ? Tacoma has NO gas hood struts…
Even on my 2018, I had to install aftermarket gas hood struts
Good bye toyota no V6
Yeppers… sucks…
I think everyone is turn off by the price alone,,,,, not to mention reliability is down the toilet!!!!!
My whole family are Toyota brand but with this outrageous pricing we’re leaning towards Nissan cuz still has NA V6
Last year of the the NA V8 with the titan. All manufacturers are pressured to pair down now. This green initiative thing.
I've been waiting for the last 2024 4runner TRD Pro to come in. Once it arrived, they slapped a $67,000 sticker on it!
Where are you located?
@@SoarAndMore Tri-valley of the Bay Area
In most cases you can buy a Colorado ZR2 cheaper than a Tacoma TRD Off Road.
@@dusty_burkhalter that’s what I’m hearing. How’s the reliability?
@@SoarAndMore I have only test driven the Colorado Trail Boss (ZR2, though more fairly priced for what it offers IMO is still out of my reach) so I can’t honestly speak to it. I think the big question mark from all of the manufacturers right now is how long will these engines hold up, especially when they are pushing 84 month financing. The Ranger has been running their power plant the longest of the turbo charged mid-sized trucks so in terms of a proving ground they probably have the biggest head start, I just personally like the looks of the Colorado Trail Boss or ZR2 better than anything else out there right now of mid-sized trucks, and when you tack on the fact that a new Colorado Trail Boss can be found for under $40k brand new that makes it a very intriguing option.
@@dusty_burkhalter that’s a really good point
Buy, use and properly review a 2024 Tacoma and probably the video will not be useless. I’m a 2024 Tacoma TRD 4x4 Premium owner without any of the problems you highlighted in the video. Also I was a 2020 TRD Sport 4x4 owner and I can tell you it is an improved truck in every aspect when compared to a 2020 TRD SPORT Tacoma.
Why would I buy something that expensive and already has transmission issues? I’m not reporting on ownership, I’m reporting on why it’s a really bad time to own one. You are more than welcome to make a video on yours. (Doubt you will)
You’re welcome.
lol......The Yuppie weekend dump runners will pay up..
Crazy pricing
Just saw a trail hunter at Roseville Toyota today. $80k
@@3rdGenAdventure someone will buy it…. Crazy
For Toyota, the chickens are finally coming home to roost.... 🐔 🐔 🐔 🐔
Somewhere down the line, poor business decisions were made, and what we are seeing is the lack of quality and possibly the lack of leadership.
Cheaply made mexican mid sized truck with a very small displacement turbo engine with recalls already! no thanks Toyota
No official recalls but the transmissions are having issues on the forums…
@@SoarAndMore 👍🏻
@@SoarAndMore buy the v6 4Runner while you still can the value is going to go straight up when the 2025 comes in
@@Jojo-ni2cg that’s a great point. Unfortunately, I don’t need one. But great advice for anyone looking for one!
@@SoarAndMore thanks, we picked up a 2023 40th and put a few bucks in it to make it our own-they are the last of the simple and very reliable vehicles made-have a great day
I don’t get the high prices everyone is posting my 4th gen. Tacoma 4x4 Sport was 44k
Everything at this Toyota dealership in Florida was at least $48k not out the door for a sr5 4x4… it’s crazy
@@SoarAndMore that’s what I don’t understand. Here in Nothern Wisconsin they are not that bad. Are the dealers marking them up or adding a bunch of installed options to increase the price?
@@paulnirschl6500 next time I go each dealership here has an “addendum” add on. Could be things like pin stripes, and window tint.. stupid stuff one can do on their own. And yes it increases the price. One dealer charges $7995 of that stuff. The dealer in the video charges $1885
@@SoarAndMore yah that seems to be the problem. I paid 36k for my 2019 TRD Sport 4x4 and got 34k trade in for a 10k difference over 5yrs. That’s not bad considering vehicle prices usually increase 2-4k a year.
@@paulnirschl6500 still over inflated, but that’s at every dealer. My 1st taco was $21k out the door! Thats like 56% over 18 years… crazy
Did Boeing buy Toyota?
That’s what I’m saying lol!
They were free when trump was president. They said so on Fox
I don’t watch any of the mainstream stuff. Designed to get us all to fight with each other.
To understand these prices you need to go look at Ford and GMC. They are all expensive. And your premise that Tacos aren’t selling is a myth. Dealers can’t keep them on the lots.
Well I went to two local Toyota dealers yesterday looking at 4runners and both had 6-10 Tacos on the lot so your premise isn't exactly correct either.
Trust me, they’re gonna start piling up now with high prices and also them having transmission issues. I went back to the dealer and they still had 14 on the lot. No movement. Must be regional. I’m in Florida and people don’t wanna pay the insurance premiums plus a vehicle that now has a potential to crap out on you.
@@-insert- Those Tacos won’t be there in three weeks.
@@SoarAndMore There have been problems with FIVE transmissions. You're going off of clickbait youtube videos for your information.
@@tonylatham5915 in the forums if you look a little more, over heating issues are more common. Way more common. Every CZcams video from people who “test drive” the new Tacoma seem to gloss over that like no big deal. Now the transmissions are failing. You can down play it. That’s fine your opinion. Would you get on my airplane if I told
You other airlines are having the same issue? Up to you. I’m on my 3rd Tacoma … I’m disappointed in the quality.
we all know... FJB
I think the whole political system and how every sitting president lately has just printed money like it wouldn’t do anything to us in the US. It all started when we went away from the gold standard… such a tragedy we are all having to pay for…
Absolutely John, spot on!
The 24 Tacoma manual transmission has numerous reports of compete failure.
How do you mess up a manual transmission? I don’t get it?
Stop buying it problems solved
People can buy what they wish. Just want to get info out there so they can have an informed decision. Thank you for watching.
TOYOTA = FAIL, FAIL, FAIL
Yeah, they have not been doing too well lately at all. Now the Tacoma on their first generation are having issues with the transmissions overheating. Other reports are they are starting to skip gears. And in the manual transmission gears 24 and six are breaking.
Do some research! The problem with the Tundra was not the fault of the engine but a manufacturing problem. They didn't clean metal fragments out of the block after machining.
@@TRT-TRD absolutely false. There are way way more issues - you do your research. Thank you for watching.
The same thing is said about Hyundai and after years they still have the same problem.
Go back to the aspirated v6. Kick those 4 cylinders to the curb. I love my 2016 v6 stick shift. Got it for 28 or 29 brand new
Awesome man! Sounds like a gem!