The 3090 Ti Heat Problem: Supersized Cooler Tear-Down of EVGA FTW3

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  • čas přidán 9. 07. 2024
  • Dealing with a 500+W heat load isn't trivial, and EVGA's FTW3 is tasked with doing as much for the NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti GPU. In this one, we tear-down the cooling solution that handled it.
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    The EVGA RTX 3090 Ti FTW3 is massive, but it is built very well. The cooling solution is able to handle the immense amount of heat that NVIDIA is generating with its GPU, and although we still think you should buy something else (simply because of the price vs. the performance gain over, say, anything else -- even an 'old' 3090), we think it's worth looking at how well this one is built.
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    TIMESTAMPS
    00:00 - Gargantuan Cooler
    01:20 - The EVGA eLeash - Yes, Really
    04:14 - Examining the Exterior
    06:50 - Beginning Disassembly
    11:55 - Removing the Cooler
    13:50 - Design Overview
    15:54 - Investigating EVGA Scribbling
    18:16 - Thermal Paste & GPU Die
    22:23 - Heatpipes & Cooler Design
    23:38 - ICX Coolers & NTC Thermistors
    25:04 - Final Thoughts on the Cooler & Fans
    26:56 - Conclusion
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  • @GamersNexus
    @GamersNexus  Před 2 lety +60

    Grab a GN toolkit (in stock & shipping now) or Modmat here! store.gamersnexus.net/
    Our full review of the EVGA RTX 3090 Ti FTW3 is available here: czcams.com/video/HWS9G2WT42Q/video.html

    • @Big_Yin
      @Big_Yin Před 2 lety +4

      RTX 3090 THAI

    • @theauthenticsteve
      @theauthenticsteve Před 2 lety

      Disappointing how condescending you are to the niche group of gamers who actually need GPU's like this and no most of us Pimax VR sim racers are not yacht owners probably because we have an expensive hobby. But that's the thing you're making fun of people because of their hobby, do you do that to bike riders? Plenty of MTB's cost more, like the new price of my carbon frame MTB that I bought for $600 second hand but cost more than that GPU new, do you think that original owner was a Yacht owner? Maybe he was an idiot to spend so much on a bike considering there are much better value options available. Yeah sure my VR sim Racing hobby is expensive and I hate the price of the GPU's I need but it is still less money than I spend on my son to go entry level real life kart racing.

    • @jouniosmala9921
      @jouniosmala9921 Před 2 lety

      They are going to need those coolers later this year when the 40 series launches. So this is a board partner practice run for the 40 series.

    • @Big_Yin
      @Big_Yin Před 2 lety +1

      @@theauthenticsteve yeah but second hand carbon MTB's hold their value even after a few years, price to performance these GPU's are pointless to gamers and hold no reasonable value in future generations.

    • @matthewcherrington2634
      @matthewcherrington2634 Před 2 lety

      Liquid nitrogen it please

  • @LordWaterBottle
    @LordWaterBottle Před 2 lety +882

    I wish these massive cards would start being honest and actually fully bracket for each pcie slot they prevent you from using. I'd bet that would go a long way in preventing gpu sag.

    • @degeneratepervert6255
      @degeneratepervert6255 Před 2 lety +17

      Definitely, well said

    • @Pyroteq
      @Pyroteq Před 2 lety +167

      Forget GPU sag, it's getting to the point where you're gonna have to worry about case sag. There's not a whole lot of metal around the PCI brackets...

    • @Nareimooncatt
      @Nareimooncatt Před 2 lety +50

      Jay mounted this in his review video and it was surprisingly nearly rock solid without the leash.

    • @PrimalRampageGaming
      @PrimalRampageGaming Před 2 lety +10

      I recommend the Lian Li gpu bracket, I'm using one for my 3090. Does a good job. The leash is a okay concept but ugly.

    • @werewolfmoney6602
      @werewolfmoney6602 Před 2 lety +14

      Why would they do that when they can just charge you more money for a fucking string

  • @anthonyc417
    @anthonyc417 Před 2 lety +541

    I love the very human aspect of the frequency and batch # hand written on the substraight.

    • @volkswagenginetta
      @volkswagenginetta Před 2 lety +52

      i actually would have more confidence in a card like that because it had manual review of it. (obviously the ones without writing were too) but i like the evidence of it

    • @Lisa_Minci96
      @Lisa_Minci96 Před 2 lety +69

      *substrate

    • @GalileoAV
      @GalileoAV Před 2 lety +21

      Yeah, reminds me of really old maker's marks you'll see on the inside of watches and stuff.

    • @anthonyc417
      @anthonyc417 Před 2 lety +7

      @@Lisa_Minci96 yeah that

    • @sammer28
      @sammer28 Před 2 lety +32

      @@Lisa_Minci96 don't kink shame

  • @GrantyoRT
    @GrantyoRT Před 2 lety +449

    PC Building in 2012: Unleash your GPU!
    PC Building in 2022: E-leash your GPU!

    • @benjaminjohnson6118
      @benjaminjohnson6118 Před 2 lety +10

      This is underappreciated

    • @xelxiez90
      @xelxiez90 Před 2 lety +4

      Haha!

    • @chemicalbrucey157
      @chemicalbrucey157 Před 2 lety +4

      Like wtf was wrong with the traditional GPU support bracket? EVGA pulling things out of their ass now

    • @CaptainScorpio24
      @CaptainScorpio24 Před 2 lety +1

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @prla5400
      @prla5400 Před 2 lety

      Leash other expenditures, E-leash your gpu!

  • @alioth2021
    @alioth2021 Před 2 lety +404

    Triple slot coolers
    400+ watts from the wall
    $2k+ prices
    ~8fps difference
    Yep, it's gaming time.

    • @guthhalf5484
      @guthhalf5484 Před 2 lety +26

      Is such a joke it's actually sad

    • @frangarcia1699
      @frangarcia1699 Před 2 lety +11

      Also it's out of stock for some reason

    • @guthhalf5484
      @guthhalf5484 Před 2 lety +18

      @@frangarcia1699 no doubt they made about 500 of them.

    • @guy_autordie
      @guy_autordie Před 2 lety +13

      @@frangarcia1699 3090 are still on higher price than 3090ti :')

    • @mathewcalaway7684
      @mathewcalaway7684 Před 2 lety +5

      PC Gaming Master Race

  • @NickCharles
    @NickCharles Před 2 lety +341

    Remember when 2 slot cards were considered massive?
    How the times have changed...

    • @dtemp132
      @dtemp132 Před 2 lety +4

      I remember my 3dfx Voodoo3 single-slot GPU :)

    • @CaptainScorpio24
      @CaptainScorpio24 Před 2 lety +1

      right my msi gtx 1060 6gb was single slot dual fan card
      right now i have nvdia rtx 3070 FE

    • @blazinghobby7089
      @blazinghobby7089 Před 2 lety

      @@CaptainScorpio24 3070 fe is pretty smol, although yes bigger than 1060s fs

    • @alexquittner3466
      @alexquittner3466 Před 2 lety +3

      I remember thinking cards would never get phatter than the Asus DirectCU II GTX 580

    • @Pasi123
      @Pasi123 Před 2 lety

      I used to think my GTX 660 DirectCU II OC was big but now it's tiny compared to modern cards

  • @acefighterpilot
    @acefighterpilot Před 2 lety +290

    Don't worry Steve, the 4090 Tie will only come with one power cable, but you'll have to be sure to plug it into a different circuit from your PC.

    • @Pyroteq
      @Pyroteq Před 2 lety +51

      The 4090 will require a C19 power cable straight to a wall socket.

    • @razter6678
      @razter6678 Před 2 lety +26

      @@Pyroteq With a 3-prong dryer plug on the end

    • @phoenixfire8978
      @phoenixfire8978 Před 2 lety +9

      @@razter6678 Nah, I predict it’ll use plugin you encounter with ovens and cookers. They’ll perform double duty.

    • @Bigdog1787
      @Bigdog1787 Před 2 lety +7

      No it will require you to have a three phase wall built into which ever room your going to put this PC in.🤭

    • @silentjoe9588
      @silentjoe9588 Před 2 lety +10

      @@phoenixfire8978 get 2 and use the backplates as a panini press

  • @hackerman7682
    @hackerman7682 Před 2 lety +183

    3090 TIE... This will destroy the rebels for sure.

  • @Bryce10011
    @Bryce10011 Před 2 lety +255

    Would you rather them have called it a G-String?

    • @mrsinister279
      @mrsinister279 Před 2 lety +8

      I see what you did there 🤣

    • @kainey
      @kainey Před 2 lety +18

      evGa-string

    • @slendydie1267
      @slendydie1267 Před 2 lety +11

      the Graphical Processing Unit String or for short G-String

    • @Bryce10011
      @Bryce10011 Před 2 lety +4

      @@slendydie1267 Yes well done. You dissected the joke. Congratulations.

    • @dare2liv_nlove
      @dare2liv_nlove Před 2 lety +2

      @@slendydie1267 i thought it was more "G-string" as in "G-Force-string". 😂

  • @timhartherz5652
    @timhartherz5652 Před 2 lety +474

    The 4090Ti will probably come with a telescopic support beam made from high-strength steel, occupy 5-6 Slots and draw 1000W.

    • @Morpheus-pt3wq
      @Morpheus-pt3wq Před 2 lety +65

      4090Ti will be external GPU with its own PSU - maybe even little nuclear power plant or diesel generator (in price).

    • @MrHakisak
      @MrHakisak Před 2 lety +13

      Unironically I would love to see a 4 slot card with 2 90mm fans the blow air along the card and out through the case slots.

    • @HDSpaceFox
      @HDSpaceFox Před 2 lety +3

      they will ask you to just put the box underneath and make it out of steel.

    • @windhelmguard6618
      @windhelmguard6618 Před 2 lety +3

      We’ll need a motherboard EEATX or an EATXL

    • @Enonymouse_
      @Enonymouse_ Před 2 lety +1

      TBH 4k and beyond will probably just be it's own stand alone case. :D

  • @lagpi
    @lagpi Před 2 lety +95

    Great vid! Ngl that TIE voice overlay jumpscared me a bit 😅
    Would've been fitting, had the e-leash been tie shaped

    • @Knowbody42
      @Knowbody42 Před 2 lety +7

      It's up there with MLID pronouncing x86 as "times 86"

    • @DarkReturns1
      @DarkReturns1 Před 2 lety +1

      Oh man, missed opportunity

  • @AaronL548
    @AaronL548 Před 2 lety +193

    12:01 is exactly why I'm so terrified of GPU disassembly. Whenever I hear that noise I wonder if I'm about to snap the PCB clean in half...

    • @GeraldMMonroe
      @GeraldMMonroe Před 2 lety +58

      What is really scary is seeing the $2200 pcb flexing.

    • @douglas8568
      @douglas8568 Před 2 lety +1

      yeah, that sound looks always of crushing layers to me, total fear

    • @SkateClipsAndTips
      @SkateClipsAndTips Před 2 lety

      Yup I tried to take apart my 3060ti on the day I unboxed it, but the thermal pads acted like glue and I couldn't get it off at all, didn't want to force it. Was worried of breaking it

    • @camerontreacy8771
      @camerontreacy8771 Před 2 lety +4

      bought a gtx 1080ti and went the remove the backplate, ended up lifting off a vram chip off the back
      i did not get a refund

    • @hsharma3933
      @hsharma3933 Před 2 lety +2

      That’s why I run a heat gun on the card or only open it after it’s been running for a few min under load.
      Some 3090s can get destroyed if you don’t remove the cooler while it’s warm. No clue what’s happening there but it completely bricks the card. Fortunately evga is aware and accepts RMAs for it.

  • @lesliegee42069
    @lesliegee42069 Před 2 lety +37

    EVGA seems like a great company. Really makes you happy to see them being so open with you all for these reviews, hopefully it continues.

    • @CosmicApe
      @CosmicApe Před rokem

      EVGA is one of the best companies to buy your parts from. Amazing service and warranty.

    • @defenestratorX
      @defenestratorX Před 6 měsíci

      I got Evga 3090 and X570 Evga amd board to go with it

  • @Kermeous
    @Kermeous Před 2 lety +28

    That's cool you get to call Jacob to figure that out. It's nice when you can actually get ahold of someone at a company, especially a direct call. Really adds a human element to the business. Bonus points to EVGA for having that representation and communication with content creators.

  • @hardlyworgen71
    @hardlyworgen71 Před 2 lety +72

    Decorate the E-leash to look like a miniature rigging on a sailing ship and do a nautical themed build.

    • @SilverJackLeg
      @SilverJackLeg Před 2 lety +1

      Or, decorate e-leash to look like Spiderman holding that train.

    • @hardlyworgen71
      @hardlyworgen71 Před 2 lety

      @Jim McIntosh Thank you. I'm not a sailor so I did not know the correct term.

  • @jakerichey4658
    @jakerichey4658 Před 2 lety +57

    Reminds me of *Christmas Vacation* when the lights finally work and it shuts everyone else's power off lol.

    • @dr.ryttmastarecctm6595
      @dr.ryttmastarecctm6595 Před 2 lety +5

      Where would they put the micro-fusion reactor to drive the card to "ludicrous speed"?

    • @alex0589
      @alex0589 Před 2 lety +3

      Then raytracing is like "SH*TTER'S FULL!"

  • @JoshuaFinger
    @JoshuaFinger Před 2 lety +71

    They could've called it the Ti Tether, Top of the Case GPU Brace, GPU Suspender, EVGrAppler, or literally anything else.

    • @introprospector
      @introprospector Před 2 lety +1

      Not anything else... 'Tie' definitely wouldn't end well

    • @JoshuaFinger
      @JoshuaFinger Před 2 lety +6

      @@introprospector They could've called it the TiE!!! lol

    • @phoenixfire8978
      @phoenixfire8978 Před 2 lety +6

      I like Graphics Brassier or GPU Bra...all the support your sagging GPU needs.

    • @cyan_2169
      @cyan_2169 Před 2 lety +6

      Leash me E-daddy

    • @andrewalexander9508
      @andrewalexander9508 Před 2 lety +2

      I'd have gone with Ti Tie!

  • @Zosu22
    @Zosu22 Před 2 lety +177

    I’m afraid of the 4090…

    • @Donnerwamp
      @Donnerwamp Před 2 lety +10

      Seems likenthere are many more GPUs that need to last another generation... My 2080Ti will have to do exactly that...

    • @Zosu22
      @Zosu22 Před 2 lety +24

      @@Donnerwamp hey, the 2080ti is going to be useful for a long time. It might even be more relevant than the 3070 long term with the extra memory.

    • @hovant6666
      @hovant6666 Před 2 lety +9

      Go check out 'Captains Workspace' video on the 4090, he got an early sample

    • @Donnerwamp
      @Donnerwamp Před 2 lety +1

      @@Zosu22 I'm not concerned with performance, it's plenty enough for the power draw, I'm more worried about the card aging and dying. Not only because a similar performing card is expensive, but because I really don't like the current offerings. I like the team green eco system with DLSS, Shadowplay and all that (so AMD isn't an option for now), but the current cards just draw waaaaay too much power for the performance. That's just not worth it to me.

    • @jongamez5163
      @jongamez5163 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Zosu22 People were complaining about the 2080 Ti value back then but I think it's a much better value than any other card ! It has 11GB of VRAM and you can Water-cool it + OC the shit out of it (I put a Kraken G12 + X62 on mine) and was able to OC the GDDR6 to 16.5Gbps and +245 MHz on the Core !!! I would get performance between a 3070 Ti and a 3080 !
      I sold it to buy a 3090 because I have a 4K OLED TV and wanted the HDMI 2.1 for 4K@120Hz 12-bit Full RGB but I really loved my 2080 Ti 😇

  • @Derek-mg2le
    @Derek-mg2le Před 2 lety +22

    Seeing the interaction between Steve and a contact at EVGA was surprisingly interesting to me.

    • @attractivegd9531
      @attractivegd9531 Před 2 lety

      I'm still waiting for any answer from them since around 4 months...

    • @TheCrazyCanuck420
      @TheCrazyCanuck420 Před 2 lety

      One of the many reasons I only buy Nvidia hardware from EVGA. Their RMA process, the purchasing queue, quality hardware, and they work well with their customers.

    • @attractivegd9531
      @attractivegd9531 Před 2 lety

      @@TheCrazyCanuck420 The only reason I buy EVGA is to grab the 10 years extended warranty. When you invest 1K euros in something you d'rather not want it to be out of warranty after only 3 years.

  • @LordZordid
    @LordZordid Před 2 lety +19

    Back in the 40-50s they predicted in the future we would have computers as large as skyscrapers! They were close in their predictions, except it would eventually be graphic cards as large as skyscrapers.

  • @pauldunecat
    @pauldunecat Před 2 lety +80

    EVGA was solid on this, gonna keep that in mind for the future. Nice.

    • @KarrasBastomi
      @KarrasBastomi Před 2 lety +14

      they are preparing for 500W+ of Ada lovelace flagship

    • @adaycj
      @adaycj Před 2 lety +10

      Yea, not only did it look like a well made product, the phone call stuff was enlightening. Even if it was "insiders" conversing. I'd love for Steve to call Gigabyte during a review like that ... "please hold while we direct you to someone that has no clue" ...

  • @Hugh_I
    @Hugh_I Před 2 lety +21

    2080Ti: yeah, it sags a lil' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    3090TI: here's a crane to hold your card up in your case
    4090Ti: Do you want an ITX motherboard and 1,5kW PSU with your card, that fits perfectly well within its cooling solution?
    5095Ti: bring your own TARDIS

    • @PutsOnSneakers
      @PutsOnSneakers Před 2 lety

      6095Ti Super: Have you harnased the power of a black hole yet?

  • @Alarios711
    @Alarios711 Před 2 lety +36

    Ah yes 400W+, gaming while using more electricity than a washing machine.

    • @Ocastia
      @Ocastia Před 2 lety +11

      Dammit i wanted to correct you but the most efficient washing machines draw slightly less power (493W).
      I'm not Shure if that is a fair comparison, considering that the we're comparing the GPU at 100% to the washing machine at Eco+ wontcleanshit mode, but still.

    • @Yasokuhl35
      @Yasokuhl35 Před 2 lety +6

      @@Ocastia well your washing machine usually also only runs for 1-2h at a time

    • @andreabriganti5113
      @andreabriganti5113 Před 2 lety +2

      Actually around 500W with this custom model. Picture a 600W 4090, not hard to imagine after Hopper. Not sure if I have to cry, go in berserk modality or laugh like I never did before.

    • @andreabriganti5113
      @andreabriganti5113 Před 2 lety

      @Gareth Tucker Mate, it's worse than that. This cards are for people that don't care at all and that's even more dangerous. People that want to see the world burn, are crazy but not enough to not avoid fire that can burn them too. Those that doesn't care are blind fools that will let this world burn faster and will not see when the fire will hit them. When this will happen, they will complain others and keep burning. Meanwhile, everyone will pay for theyr ego. Insanity is becoming the new normality...

  • @opensourcedev22
    @opensourcedev22 Před 2 lety +33

    Considering the wattage, I'm disappointed they didn't mount anti gravity jets to keep the card from sagging. Shambolic effort

    • @servantsochrist
      @servantsochrist Před 2 lety

      fibre glass is very strong....nothing to worry about....it's springy too so it goes back in shape.....like steel springs

    • @Shendue
      @Shendue Před rokem

      @@servantsochrist Problem are the PCI connector, that is rigid, it's gonna bend and potentially crack, and the motherboard itself. There's a reason why the produced included a support.

  • @supahvaporeon
    @supahvaporeon Před 2 lety +70

    The presence of the "E-leash" leads me to believe that the cards have achieved full sentience, and are now shipping with pre-installed fetishes

    • @jsteezy80
      @jsteezy80 Před 2 lety +17

      Just need the E-Choker and ball gig

    • @OgLatinoHeat
      @OgLatinoHeat Před 2 lety

      @@jsteezy80 lmaooo! E-choker and a BLUETOOTH ball gag

    • @PutsOnSneakers
      @PutsOnSneakers Před 2 lety

      dont forget the plugs, never forget the plugs

  • @StealthNinja4577
    @StealthNinja4577 Před 2 lety +30

    The cards just got so advanced SLI has to catch up. Clearly you can't have the ultimate rig unless you SLI two 3090 TI's for ultimate power

    • @BrutusAlbion
      @BrutusAlbion Před 2 lety +4

      might as well start investing in a nuclear plant to power the thing as well ...

    • @frodolaggins6868
      @frodolaggins6868 Před 2 lety +2

      My friend was joking about doing a SLI system with the just announced 3090 TI Kingpin models. Asked him where he was gonna fit both 360mm radiators and install the special clothing dryer outlet to power it.

    • @BrutusAlbion
      @BrutusAlbion Před 2 lety

      @@frodolaggins6868 the guy has to run an extra power line into the bathroom just to power this monstrosity.

    • @NoizyCr1cket
      @NoizyCr1cket Před 2 lety

      Only two? Peasant.

    • @randybobandy9828
      @randybobandy9828 Před 2 lety

      @@frodolaggins6868 you can run 2 3090ti on a normal 120v outlet. Upto 1500w

  • @AMDRyzenEnthusiastGroup
    @AMDRyzenEnthusiastGroup Před 2 lety +2

    Well, done, Steve and GN team!
    Thanks for all your hard work, & your exceptional quality of in-depth analysis and journalism.

  • @onedeadcat
    @onedeadcat Před 2 lety +20

    If this keeps up all future PCs will require a briefcase-sized external GPU dock, with its own 1000+W PSU and liquid cooling system.
    Absolutely ridiculous. Vega from DOOM draws less power.

    • @metallicamadsam
      @metallicamadsam Před 2 lety +4

      Vega is an environmentally friendly prius incomparison

    • @nebufabu
      @nebufabu Před 2 lety +4

      If this trend continues, then for performance reasons, we'll just plug a CPU board into a PCIE slot in a video card, and I'm not joking. I mean NV just said they're going to put a CPU socket on some Hopper boards, that's literally one step away from that.

  • @haydensmith3341
    @haydensmith3341 Před 2 lety +13

    The E-leash is nice, but kinda feels like we need to go back to the old AT days where cases had a slot on the inside of the front to also provide support for expansion cards. I remember getting a Sound Blaster AWE32 and finally discovering what those little plastic rails at the front of the case were for. I've never seen another expansion card that large, but seeing as those little rails were common in cases I presume there was a standard max size for an ISA card that meant cases could be built and cards designed to add that extra support at the front.

    • @choppergirl
      @choppergirl Před rokem

      Back in the day, motherboards were flat ont he table, so this would of been totally fine. It's when someone flipped themt o stand veritcal and the slots are hanging out in the air, that precipitates this problem because cards were never suppose tob e hanging sideways like this... ever. It's like mounting your fish tanks ideways instead of with the open top on skyward. The solution is to lay your comptuer on ti's side just like intendend like on the PC/XT/AT/Mac2 fx/Altair88/ et al. You placed yor ocmptuer on the desktop flat, not turn them into a cool looking tower skyscraper.

  • @BrazenBob
    @BrazenBob Před 2 lety +56

    3090 ties is a lot of ties

    • @renatoigmed
      @renatoigmed Před 2 lety +1

      ahh that's why it's so expensive!

    • @cybercat1531
      @cybercat1531 Před 2 lety +3

      @@Amocat1 GIF/JIF
      Tomato/Tomatoe
      Potato/Kartoffel/Aardappel
      TI/Ti/Tie/Tea
      I'm afraid its out of their hands, take it or leave it. Publics gonna speak it. Corps gonna cash it in regardless. Its irrelevant, only true trifling pedants waffle about inconsequential trivialities.

  • @adamekcar
    @adamekcar Před 2 lety

    The extra steps you take to get as much information as possible is amazing. Sub for life!

  • @ricdintino9502
    @ricdintino9502 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for highlighting the e-leash and its highly intuitive installation process.

  • @luminatrixfanfiction
    @luminatrixfanfiction Před 2 lety +46

    Ok, I'm officially impressed with EVGA's engineering. While I'm not impressed with the 3090ti's, I will be looking to most likely get an EVGA card of the next gen graphics card this second half of this year.
    The cooling is very impressive, especially when it's air cooling a 500 watt power hungry card. Props to EVGA. If they can deliver similar results for the next generation of AMD 7000 series cards later this year, I'm sold.
    And as a side comment, I doubt, many users are going to be interested in getting an NVIDIA card that draws 600 watts and still falls short in terms of performance next to AMD's lineup due to power inefficiency.

    • @GewelReal
      @GewelReal Před 2 lety +2

      EVGA was always top quality
      Also they don't make AMD cards, do they?

    • @luminatrixfanfiction
      @luminatrixfanfiction Před 2 lety

      @@GewelReal Yeah I agree, they make really well-engineered after-market cards.
      But if they don't make AMD cards, they should consider doing so if the next gen AMD cards are crowned.

    • @emu071981
      @emu071981 Před 2 lety

      It is going to be an interesting year with AMD and Nvidia actually competing with each other in performance again. Been way too long since AMD has been competitive in the high end of GPUs.

    • @hofkingpin3216
      @hofkingpin3216 Před 2 lety

      @@luminatrixfanfiction i don't think they can make amd cards, they have like an agreement or contract sth with nvidia, which is why they can keep their price so low near msrp

    • @luminatrixfanfiction
      @luminatrixfanfiction Před 2 lety +2

      @@hofkingpin3216 Ah, that makes sense. Well, that's a shame as they make really good cooling solutions to tackle hot scorcher cards.
      Are you perchance, _the_ Kingpin?

  • @blackmennewstyle
    @blackmennewstyle Před 2 lety +5

    Nothing more satisfying than disassemble your own hardware and have a look at PCB design marvels

  • @bacteria266
    @bacteria266 Před 2 lety

    Your Chanel is all I need. Thank you for all the effort 👌

  • @billfiskilis4539
    @billfiskilis4539 Před 2 lety

    Ohh so love these tear downs, watching from Australia

  • @dravenlee4473
    @dravenlee4473 Před 2 lety +14

    It honestly feels like we should just be getting stand alone mini-cases for GPUs that connect to your PC at this point. Attaching these monsters to a motherboard feels like we've reached our physical limitations.

    • @LohJiaHung
      @LohJiaHung Před 2 lety +2

      eGPU enclosures already exist.

    • @tempofugo168
      @tempofugo168 Před 2 lety

      @@LohJiaHung Not common on Desktop though. They're more a laptop thing right now

    • @BBWahoo
      @BBWahoo Před 2 lety

      @@tempofugo168
      You can use them on desktop too, but having "specialized" eGPU for desktops would be interesting

  • @CYKuo-yl9lg
    @CYKuo-yl9lg Před 2 lety +56

    3090 ti is the GPU that you get more metal than performance improvements over 3090.

  • @evancunningham6582
    @evancunningham6582 Před 2 lety

    omg loved that voice over at the start!!

  • @DukeNukem8075
    @DukeNukem8075 Před 2 lety +7

    The next version of a Ti card will require a house breaker circuit labeled GPU.

    • @leckthetech6132
      @leckthetech6132 Před 2 lety

      Never seen a 5A breaker in a house before...or a 10A either. What mains voltage are you running?

  • @toshikikarukawa8148
    @toshikikarukawa8148 Před 2 lety +7

    I'm a game developer, I work with Unreal Engine, 3ds max and blender, and... I use a gtx960 from 8 years ago XD. Yes, I can see the benefit of using such a monstrous GPU, but in the end you can work with almost whatever you have, and If I could choose, at that price range and power consumption, I would go for a standard 3090, before that thing. Not that I can afford a standard 3090 anyway.

    • @ffwast
      @ffwast Před 2 lety

      The difference with EVGA's cards is only $80 if you can get them.

  • @parzivalhawking1132
    @parzivalhawking1132 Před 2 lety +3

    Waited for it!

  • @achaerna.6662
    @achaerna.6662 Před 2 lety +2

    Hey everyone, I recommend you go to 11:18 and watch Steve unscrew that plate with the GN toolkit. I'm totally plugging here, but that was what convinced me to go buy one. You might already have a good kit, but this kit doesn't require swapping bits. It's always ready to go and once I realized that, it was a no-brainer to get one. /end plug

  • @volkswagenginetta
    @volkswagenginetta Před 2 lety +11

    Hey remember when the 750 ti was a super popular (and well loved) card because a very common config was to have it only powered by the pcie slot? Those were good times.

    • @bootchoo96
      @bootchoo96 Před 2 lety +1

      1050ti is also pci-e powered, gtx 1650 too

    • @volkswagenginetta
      @volkswagenginetta Před 2 lety +3

      @@bootchoo96 yea but people generally poo-pooed the gtx 1650. The 1050 ti was also a generlaly liked card, but the 750 ti was really in a league of its own for the praise that it got. Honestly my favorite cards are always the pcie powered cards because they were plug in play in virtually any machine and got you usually competent/usable performance even if it was at lower settings. prevented a lot of dell OptiPlex's becoming e-waste.

    • @FooPanda
      @FooPanda Před 2 lety

      I'm still rocking one ^^'

  • @Inposimpible
    @Inposimpible Před 2 lety +8

    At this price point i would expect the components to be soldered on straight and not crooked like the inductors at 14:05

  • @johnhicks8626
    @johnhicks8626 Před 2 lety +10

    Dumb question - how close are we to "build your own graphics card" - modular GPU, memory, cooling, the works? GPUs have hit the point where they make up 2/3 of the value of some high end builds.

    • @BBWahoo
      @BBWahoo Před 2 lety

      Not close enough!!!

  • @TheInvisableGamer19
    @TheInvisableGamer19 Před 2 lety

    As an electrical engineer it’s always refreshing to see your uploads. Thank you!

  • @justadumbprsn9930
    @justadumbprsn9930 Před 2 lety

    I love that your videos are for the pc tech nerds like me. Really like your videos

  • @christianh4723
    @christianh4723 Před 2 lety +20

    Totally looking forward to NOT upgrading to a 4000 series flagship (plus purchasing the massive PSU I'd need) for performance gains that aren't anywhere near proportional. Even if it guaranteed 144 fps + in the most demanding games I think I'd refuse the purchase out of spite.
    Nvidia needs to learn a hard lesson.

    • @christianh4723
      @christianh4723 Před 2 lety

      @Turkey Jeff I try to stick with my budget parts / build and make the best of it (OC'ing, relying on developers to optimize their games for PC, which they do very unreliably), not giving in to the trend necessarily. But I can understand your frustration. I guess it just hit harder now with the news/rumors that the power consumption will be such an absurd jump.

  • @OmegaPhattyAcid
    @OmegaPhattyAcid Před 2 lety +3

    Really impressive engineering and design, I hope these concepts port to the top 40 Series cards.

  • @egornikulin9504
    @egornikulin9504 Před 2 lety +2

    I just LOVE how Steve is more confused by the support *thing* adjustment than by the card teardown itself

  • @RainyDevil76
    @RainyDevil76 Před 2 lety

    I love these teardown videos. "Back to you, Steve."

  • @neonlights_12
    @neonlights_12 Před 2 lety +48

    Is this even a "card" anymore? More like a discreet graphics BRICK

  • @Dystopikachu
    @Dystopikachu Před 2 lety +92

    When my graphics card consumes as much power as my vacuum cleaner, I know it's time to stop vacuum cleaning to save on the electricity bill.

    • @mrsinister279
      @mrsinister279 Před 2 lety +2

      Yeah I would do the same lol

    • @metallicamadsam
      @metallicamadsam Před 2 lety

      Hahaha

    • @ffwast
      @ffwast Před 2 lety +2

      Just install better dust filters and crank up the cooling fans

    • @wikichen3158
      @wikichen3158 Před 2 lety +1

      So Nividia become the competitor for Dyson right now?

    • @PDXCustomPCS
      @PDXCustomPCS Před 2 lety +1

      I just wash the floor by hand with Windex now.

  • @Nareimooncatt
    @Nareimooncatt Před 2 lety +1

    7:31 Jay's video reviewing the card included him mounting it in a case. Even without the leash, it seemed pretty rock solid due to reinforcing the case bracket. I'd use the leash as a backup and make a tower crane construction themed build to incorporate it into the aesthetic, but I wonder just how much it's really needed.

  • @hudbaoir3610
    @hudbaoir3610 Před 2 lety

    Love the tie gag ^^

  • @bronzeagehuman
    @bronzeagehuman Před 2 lety +57

    I watch GN strictly for the comedy at this point, considering the state of the market.

  • @ClementIV
    @ClementIV Před 2 lety +5

    A good thing about not being able to afford this at this moment is that I can wait until 4090 TI with double the performance and maybe more affordable.

    • @ALEX-WTF-ds4pe
      @ALEX-WTF-ds4pe Před rokem

      Спи и надейся) там максимум 30% припрост будет с ещё большим потреблением

    • @ALEX-WTF-ds4pe
      @ALEX-WTF-ds4pe Před rokem

      Ну и цена на 4090ti будет в полтора раза выше чем на 3090ti

  • @georgevogiatzis2715
    @georgevogiatzis2715 Před 2 lety

    Maaan i love the silent base 802. Thank you Steve

  • @dangingerich2559
    @dangingerich2559 Před 2 lety

    These things remind me of the heatsinks on some old minicomputers. When I worked at a server software test lab many years ago, we had an RS6000 based HP system with two processor boards with heatsinks about this size.

  • @JuraIbis
    @JuraIbis Před 2 lety +3

    It's funny because I made a handmade e-leash for my 1080 way back. Its 3 tie wraps in a loop that tie to the top of the middle side panel indent and wraps around both PCIE power connectors to the card. I didn't like the look of the card sagging and it triggered my OCD also.

  • @THEpicND
    @THEpicND Před 2 lety +6

    The e leash is actually the TIE

  • @TechWeLove
    @TechWeLove Před 2 lety +1

    ❤ Thanks for the education. ❤️

  • @inPHiniTeChA0s
    @inPHiniTeChA0s Před 2 lety

    I always love when Jacob is called without warning. He's a champ.

  • @MrNside
    @MrNside Před 2 lety +5

    Back in the day, I would watch content on these halo products with a healthy level of interest. Knowing that most people are buying readily available mid-range cards, it was fun to think about what you could get if money was no issue.
    These days, I look at products like this as manufacturers rubbing salt in the wound. GPUs are just starting to get closer to MSRP, sure. But several months back, while we were still looking at 200% or more pricing on GPUs, Nvidia was saying, "Now is the time we need to design and release an even more expensive card."

  • @HDJess
    @HDJess Před 2 lety +4

    It's so refreshing to actually see a well-engineered and functional product, considering how full the market is with cost-cutting and cheap, plasticky trash. For the price, well, it is what it is, it'll go down a bit later but right now, whoever wants and especially NEEDS a 3090Ti, wouldn't care too much if they pay 1500 or 2200.

  • @gaptoofgranny
    @gaptoofgranny Před 2 lety

    All those leads and that power consumption is giving me flashbacks to the Voodoo 5 6000 with it's external power supply connection.

  • @DavisMakesGames
    @DavisMakesGames Před 2 lety +1

    The heatpipe on the backplate reminds me of the HD 5870, had one on the power delivery but that was even smaller. Can't think that that would be super effective.

  • @miguelgutierrez2759
    @miguelgutierrez2759 Před 2 lety +99

    A tear-down of a card designed to tear a hole in your pocket.

    • @Knowbody42
      @Knowbody42 Před 2 lety +2

      They were made for people with really large pockets.

    • @patrickhector
      @patrickhector Před 2 lety +3

      and your motherboard, with that sag

    • @kelvin1316
      @kelvin1316 Před 2 lety +4

      And in your electrical bill LOL

  • @71001L
    @71001L Před 2 lety +8

    Should have named these "titan something" instead of 90 series tbh.

  • @wubbsy
    @wubbsy Před 2 lety

    A real thing of beauty. EVGA's board and cooler design is always so cool.

  • @SimplexPL
    @SimplexPL Před 2 lety

    Thanks, Steve!

  • @infra1
    @infra1 Před 2 lety +5

    That's a sharp looking video card. A gentleman's GPU.

    • @gmualum08
      @gmualum08 Před 2 lety

      At wealthy gentlemen's price. I have the equipment in a 3080 FTW3 Ultra and that hurt enough!

  • @mrfilipelaureanoaguiar
    @mrfilipelaureanoaguiar Před 2 lety +3

    Thats a thick heatsink but thin heatpipes. I wonder if it really worth for rendering too.For 1000$ maybe worth it. How much top end 24GB ram and the I9 12900k would worth on a board if it was a GPU?

  • @j-ohara
    @j-ohara Před 2 lety

    Thanks, Steve!

  • @TheSmileyTek
    @TheSmileyTek Před 2 lety

    That heat sink / vapor chamber solution is a work of art imo. Just love it. If only it was in the $600 to $700 price range 😁. I also noticed some additional pins below (or above) the 12 pin connector. I assume those tiny pins are per the ATX 3.0, ATX12VO Standard?

  • @CaptainVKanth
    @CaptainVKanth Před 2 lety +4

    Needs a really large warning label on amount of space it takes.

  • @BiigiieCheeese
    @BiigiieCheeese Před 2 lety +7

    Can't wait for PCI-E to be outdated due to shear weight of the cards

    • @shukterhousejive
      @shukterhousejive Před 2 lety +3

      This is the perfect place to make a sheer/shear typo

  • @myfavoriteviewer306
    @myfavoriteviewer306 Před 2 lety

    Jacob seems like a decent guy, I'm glad you were able to include that bit in the video.

  • @lightly-red-huedmaleindivi6266

    This looks like a fantastic card to mount upright in my modern pc case with tempered glass and fully-sealed plastic front panel.

  • @brocksamson3282
    @brocksamson3282 Před 2 lety +15

    I think the larger questions are: how do you afford to pay your power bill? and how do you cool the room this thing runs in?
    It is basically a large electric heater that also does computer graphics.

    • @dojelnotmyrealname4018
      @dojelnotmyrealname4018 Před 2 lety

      I mean, every computer is a large electric heater that also does computer things. This thing's just an enormous one.

    • @gareth432
      @gareth432 Před 2 lety

      the calculation is easy. you have your pc with this thing in it using 1kW - what is all heat - and you need an air condition in your room to kill the 1kW heat, what would take another 400W for the air condition to do that. so together you will have constant power use of 2,4kW to ensure your room has the same temperature as without your pc running...
      I guess alaska will become a popular place to live for nerds ;-)

    • @brocksamson3282
      @brocksamson3282 Před 2 lety

      @@gareth432 yeah, in cold winter this is all win, but I live in southern Florida where I don't ever need heat. Maybe I could make a second "dryer vent" to blow the heat out of my house.

    • @dojelnotmyrealname4018
      @dojelnotmyrealname4018 Před 2 lety

      @@gareth432 That's... Not how that works. You don't use 1400 kw to move 400 w, the 400 w moves the 1000 watts (and produces heat outside the house, which doesn't need to be moved). That's also not accounting for differences between ambient and optimal air temperature (in winter you wouldn't need to move the air at all).

    • @BigBoyXP4014
      @BigBoyXP4014 Před rokem +1

      After about a year of having mine, it's certainly warm but it's not the end of the world. A plug-in spaceheater would pull 1000w on low or 1500w on high, even having flashed the BIOS with a modded version that's unlocked up to 600w it pulls between 225-500w depending on what game I'm playing with the all-time high being 529w playing RDR2. My full system power use is about 800w with everything running at full tilt on a 1000w platinum rated PSU. Even if you add my monitor and all my peripherals at full power use, and the AC, and assume they're both running maxed out 12 hours a day at 14 cents a kilowatt hour which is more expensive than what I pay as well the yearly total for running all of this comes out to ~1500$ in electricity costs. As it stands my bill went up about 60$ a month when I first got everything running for a more realistic example.
      It's not free but it's far from being crazy expensive.

  • @davidmoore1880
    @davidmoore1880 Před 2 lety +4

    I don't see why at this point they don't just cool both sides of the card. I'd like to see numbers if heat pipes ran to the back so they could do 6 fans.

  • @rx58000
    @rx58000 Před 2 lety

    My MSI 3060 TI Gaming X trio after one year has a curvature , the curvature is also present on the pcie slot connector and if I shake the computer or close drawers too hard I get a black screen for 10-15 seconds probably GPU disconnecting and reconnecting in the pcie slot.
    Keeping my PC sleeping so the GPU is vertical fixed the issue and then I wen't ahead and got a vertical GPU mount and now it works fine.
    I flipped my GPU and kept some weight on it for a month and it has straightened up a bit.
    GPU support bracket , legs ,etc are really important for such heavy cards

  • @safetydoggo2721
    @safetydoggo2721 Před 2 lety

    this thing's (mostly) well thought through design and maintainability are nice to see!

  • @kunstderfugue
    @kunstderfugue Před 2 lety +34

    What happened to the power efficiency trend? It's the new decade so the environment is automatically not a problem?

    • @ronkemperful
      @ronkemperful Před 2 lety +12

      Ah come on, don’t be a spoil sport! Think of using the computer as a small space heater. This allows you to turn down the thermostat for the rest of the house. It’s an energy saver!

    • @benjaminjohnson6118
      @benjaminjohnson6118 Před 2 lety

      Nvidia
      "And I took that personally"

    • @tarfeef_4268
      @tarfeef_4268 Před 2 lety +1

      @@ronkemperful lol when I was living in a studio I literally never turned the heat on cause I had GPUs :D in fact sometimes it was too warm.

    • @NightKev
      @NightKev Před 2 lety

      Flagship cards were never about efficiency, they're always pushed way past the peak of the efficiency curve to squeeze out those last few MHz.

    • @CaffeinatedFrostbite
      @CaffeinatedFrostbite Před 2 lety

      because most "environmental" stuff is bunk. global warming is real but its mostly natural. the earth heats and cools throughout time. if you truly care about the environment use nuclear energy

  • @VeProducctions
    @VeProducctions Před 2 lety +7

    I think we're getting to the point where card manufacturers need to start using liquid coolers because the efforts to relieve the mechanical stress at the pcie slot are getting ridiculous

    • @Tommyd2k
      @Tommyd2k Před 2 lety +1

      They do. There are lots of cards that have factory water coolers. Self contained units and ones designed for custom loops, even hybrid models with heatsinks and fans on the VRM's and an AIO cooling the GPU + VRAM.

  • @OsamaRana
    @OsamaRana Před 2 lety

    10:19
    "So this is just connected to the PCB
    That's the LED
    That's not connected to the backplate
    That's awesome to see"
    Such poetry.

  • @t0mn8r35
    @t0mn8r35 Před 2 lety +1

    That tie joke, just like the goat in the motel room, will never get tired.

  • @mightylink65
    @mightylink65 Před 2 lety +6

    How could there be space for a second 12-pin connector... that would imply they originally designed this card to draw 900w!

    • @PutsOnSneakers
      @PutsOnSneakers Před 2 lety +1

      No it means this card is designed with future use in mind.
      4000 series

  • @abavariannormiepleb9470
    @abavariannormiepleb9470 Před 2 lety +3

    Mod idea: Desolder the 3090 Ti memory chips from two 3090 Tis and check if you can build a 48 GB 3090 :)

  • @WholesaleTurbos
    @WholesaleTurbos Před 2 lety +1

    Can't wait for the mini version

  • @kevinhamlett1400
    @kevinhamlett1400 Před 2 lety

    I just completely took apart my MSI RTX 2080 Super Gaming X TRIO. Replaced all thermal pads and thermal paste. My card had thermal pads on the capacitors and everything else they could think to put a thermal pad on. My temps dropped by about 10c. It had a lot of dust in it also. I cleaned each fan blade so its like new again.

  • @deepfriedavocado
    @deepfriedavocado Před 2 lety +4

    i miss the days when it was like "wow a triple slot card?? can they even do that" and now its like "ok 3.5 that's cool i guess"

  • @AmvC
    @AmvC Před 2 lety +4

    I'm waiting for the 5060ti that will have 10% more performance @ 50% power than this thing.

  • @luigiwilwayco8733
    @luigiwilwayco8733 Před 2 lety

    That TIE voice over gets me everytime hahahaha great humor as always!

  • @viridian_calx
    @viridian_calx Před 2 lety

    01:46 Thank you for asking these questions.

  • @thepcenthusiastchannel2300

    We used to photoshop joke GPUs, mostly ridiculing 3Dfx and their Voodoo5 6000, back in the day. The RTX 3090 Ti is more of a joke than anything we photoshopped. That thing is huge (and ugly).

    • @shukterhousejive
      @shukterhousejive Před 2 lety +1

      It took an extra 22 years but we've finally built the BitchinFast 3D 2000

    • @ffwast
      @ffwast Před 2 lety

      @@shukterhousejive they've released the 2022 now

  • @sinasouls
    @sinasouls Před 2 lety +75

    So, the 3090ti is an overclocked, better cooled 3090 with a TIE.

    • @brandonjohnson4121
      @brandonjohnson4121 Před 2 lety +4

      Please let me know which software can add hundreds of physical cores to my 3080 Ti. Thanks in advance.

    • @andrew6239
      @andrew6239 Před 2 lety

      Please let me know which software can add hundreds of physical cores to my 3080ti. Thanks in advance

    • @xelxiez90
      @xelxiez90 Před 2 lety

      Yes

    • @shuttleman27c
      @shuttleman27c Před 2 lety

      It's got a couple more cores

    • @jongamez5163
      @jongamez5163 Před 2 lety +1

      @@brandonjohnson4121 You mean the +5% amount of Cores is going to change EVERYTHING and run Cyberpunk 2077 at 4K 120fps with RT & Psycho settings ?! 🤪

  • @Mrhellacat
    @Mrhellacat Před 2 lety +1

    we need to reintroduce the card brackets on the front of cases for graphics cards, kinda like how they were used for long saggy full size boards in the 90s. Also i absolutely love the shape of this card. Big bulbous curvy brick of heat!

  • @ntomnia585
    @ntomnia585 Před 2 lety

    Ordered a couple from my yacht and had my attendant watch your video. I was advised that you did a good job. My live-in technician likes your tool kit as well, perhaps he will find a surprise under his bunk in the near future.
    If you reply to this message, please be aware that due to the volume of inquiries including but not limited to; solicitors, hate mail, taxing entities, and general public resentment, we cannot reply to all requests, statements or questions.
    Thank you for my time.