Most Common Issues with the 2007-2009 GT500
Vložit
- čas přidán 23. 08. 2024
- I thought these were a few issues that a prospecting buyer for this generation GT500 should be aware of. I'm sure I missed a few, so let me know down in the comments what you've experienced!
Instagram @AllThingsBoost
video starts @ 3:37
Thanks homie
Thank u lol. Literally hate when people feel the need to explain everything but the video
7:26 I’ve been hearing that fairytale my whole life so let me set the record straight .... 07-14 will heat soak it doesn’t matter the year ANYTHING that has a blower will heat soak . The 13/14 will pull timing... a heat exchanger is okay ... a killer chiller is thee BEST cooling mod for these cars had both night and day difference .
spot on especially the hood bubble issue! it’s extremely common issue on this generation mustang since the aluminum hoods have a tendency to oxidize from within if not prepped/sealed/painted correctly which is a shame but that’s what we can expect with mass produced stangs def planning to go with a composite hood in the near future on my 07 stang purely for aesthetics luckily never faced the oxidation issue. also on the earlier mustangs the firewall is prone to leaking water to the interior, flooding the floorboards from debris clogging the little grommets. also the windows being prone to scratches mainly your tint but was later revised on the 2008 model years where they came felt lined vs the straight up hard rubber thing on the older models
Window felt molding. Just order a set for an 08 model year if you have an 07. Don’t mess around trying to stick that stuff on diy get the factory 08 ones
This is common on a lot of S197 mustangs, this happened twice to me on my 2012 which I had for over 6 years. My 2018 GT which I’ve had for 3 1/2 years has much better paint. s550 body panels & craftsmanship are much better than the s197.
I recommend upgrading alternator for the 07 I went with KMJ alternator and haven’t had any problems since. I’ve gone through 3 alternator before that.
Yeah, I got the PA performance one rebuild by them since this video came out, turns out the voltage regulator went bad
I’ve gone through 2 lol
I went with a 270 Amp nation's alternator for my 07 it was like 800 bucks with black powder coating so it wasn't cheap but it converts it to a large denso case alt instead of a 6g I think it is stock right? I heard the type of alternator it is is part of the problem which is why getting a normal even high output upgrade alternator in the stock style alternator case doesn't really fix the problem. This is why people go through multiple alternators I heard alot of good about nations on the terminator and gt500 forums and svt forums. Mine never went bad in 2 years owning it but voltage would drop down in the 12s out of nowhere driving that isn't normal I'm thinking voltage regulator was just starting to begin to go bad so to speak so I went ahead and upgrade right the first time buy once cry once.
Having this upgraded alternator also helps if you turn slightly higher rpm than stock redline because that can real hard on an alt.
Hi:
You forgot to mention that the years 2007 through 2009 had issue with blown out CPM's. Mine went at 21,00 miles and the original could not be rebuilt . It had to be towed to JDM Engineering in Freehold NJ. They replaced the CPM with an 2011 computer. They also said that it was very common.
What's a CPM?
These cars have an ECU, Engine Control Module I've heard go bad in some cases, or PCM, Powertrain Contol Module. Never a CPM, what is that?
great video for sure! looking at getting myself one of these since i’m approaching it in my savings
I've been looking at getting into a c6 or a gt500.. think I've made my mind. Great video!
Hi:
Sorry your correct . It was the MAIN COMPUTER -ECU that burnt out completly. . When I had it brought in to JDM Engineering , they changed out the ECU with one of theirs ( from one of their two 2011 racing /drag Shelby GT500 -). Last year there were no refurbished, new or junked car ECU's that I could locate. I was really stuck!! A dead car . I also tried to rebuild the ECU but that didn't work out . That was a scam sending it out too be repaired. So I reached out to Shelby American and they gave me the name of JDM Engineering here in NJ. I had no other recourse but to go to JDM. So I was kind of lucky to get them to replace the ECU with one of theirs. Then they reflashed it with a SCT higher performance profile. They also changed out the plugs to a "cooler" NGK VPower Plugs set at .32 instead of .35. And, by the way, there was anotheer 2009 shelby GT500 at their shop with exactly the same issue.
When I picked up the car last summer ( after they did all this work on it) it ran great and is very fast.
I'm glad they were able to get you sorted out. That's a scary situation to be in
The car looks fabulous all cleaned up!
Makes me regret not getting red.
Good job on touching on the crank snout. I was gonna make a video with more detail on that as well. Just to be clear, they break with aftermarket balancers too. My understanding is the way the snout is champhered and the way Ford drilled out the snout with a bigger hole than the bolt.
Thanks for the clarification on that! Been trying to figure out more on it as well
AllThingsBoost mine and my friends on his 14 had ATI’s on them. L&M said his was an install issue. Mine I think the bolt backed out slightly over time. Too much sauce! Lol
The best color combo 07-09 I've ever seen!
Interesting theory on the alternator and tcs. I have an 07 and my alternator is throwing 17 to 18 volts at 3500 RPM. That surge is shorting or cycling my cabin electronics. I need to pull it and have a new regulator installed. I'll have to be careful to have TCS off at all times. It's annoying as it is auto on with ignition.
For others with the problem, throw a bigger alt pulley. That's also on my list once I pull it. This should prevent a repeat issue. These alternators are in an awful location so once is plenty.
Holy crap, mine has thrown as high as 15 volts, but 18 is nuts! Just got it rebuilt by PA Performance, voltage regulator was bad. Reinstalling it soon, so hopefully I'll see the normal 13.5 volts.
@@AllThingsBoost back story. I bought the car rebuilt salvage five years ago from an asshole in Indiana. He convinced me that he was a perfectionist and that it was 100%. It came off the car hauler throwing engine codes... Five years later and 999 gremlins slayed, the final gremlin is the power issue. It took me till this year to narrow it down to the alternator. It's been torture not being able to let all of the ponies loose of fear of destroying the electrical system. Silver lining, only needed to replace one set of rear tires lol
@@AllThingsBoost subscribed!! Amd thanks again for the tcs tip! Once I get it rebuilt I'll be sure to watch for that. I believe there is a hack to keep it off. Might make a great video for a future post??
Take care.
@@carlmazziotti221 wow, that's one heck of a story and battle to get your car right. Keep up the work man, these things are a blast!
@@AllThingsBoost mission accomplished! So I swapped the alternator with the J2 180 amp along with the Big 3 wire kit. The switch amplified the issue!! After about 10 hrs of testing and configuring things differently I started to mess with the data wires going into alternator connector. I de-loomed the wires, separated them and plugged it back in, problem solved!
Long story short I think the data telling the alternator how much output to produce was being corrupted from either being too close to the other wires, or just not making good enough contact.
Crazy! Now to begin worrying about breaking things as I put the 650 RWH to the ground!
The alternator has been a major issue with my 07. Replaced it with a Nationwide alt. No issues . My car has 80,000 miles
Good to hear.
Thank you for this video! I was about to buy an 07 GT500 with 48,500 miles. But I've decided to go C6 route!
LOL I came from a 2008 C6 with 15k on clock. The GT500 is a MUCH better car to daily and have fun in. A 2008 GT500 replaced the C6. Get a fixed roof if you can, because the targa top squeak will drive you crazy! Also pull out the $$$ for performance mods.
@@biffbastion301 I've had a 2010 Grandsport procharged before. They really aren't expensive to do mods to unless you boost them. Then you're looking at a 5,600-9,000$ for just the kit.
@@DriesOG Yup then you also got to add the cost of a GS. I bought the GT500 at the same price I got the base C6. It already has a tune, pulley and intake making 550RWHP on the dyno. It also has 3.73 gears in it already from the previous owner. The sheer fun of this car compared to the C6 is night and day. Plus I can grab a TVS supercharger for $1500 and a BAP and be close to 650-700 rear. Meanwhile a gear change in a Vette is about $2500. LOL Just wait until something breaks on the Vette...like the Torque Tube ;)
@@biffbastion301 torque tube isn't bad to replace. Once you do it, Then you do it right get way more than you need. Never touch it again.
@@DriesOG Yup it depends on what you want. I hated driving the Vette anywhere cause I had to worry about any speed bumps or any road imperfections. Too much drama when you just want to drive and enjoy the car. First day I scratched the underside pulling in to work ruined my whole day. haha I will give it to the Vette though on header installation. Probably one of the easiest cars for sure!
I replaced my alternator with a Nations. Well worth the money. Epic.
The 07-09 has a 2.1 supercharger on it, it also can only handle 750 on stock internals so the car should start breaking stuff around 700
Thanks for the clarification on the stock supercharger. This car had been at 730 hp the majority of its life, raced hard too. Saw 789 for a short time, and now I got it at 700. If driven right and taken care of with a good tune and fuel they will last just fine at 700-750. I agree, anything more than 750-800 is probably borrowed time however. Previous owner is steve nanney, on "The 500 Channel" if you want to check out a lot more races there.
Um ... this car can handle 750 wheel all day .... it’s the high RPMs that need to be avoided 6200 is the limit on all GT500s a good tune good maintenance car will run forever ...
@@mach183 this is true
I think your on the mark. Nice video.
I shift my bolt on 410 car at 6200ish because I'm worried about rpm. I've always heard rpm kills these motors faster than sheer hp does. Is it really safe to take them up as far as 6500 and still be cool? I know 200-300 rpm dont sound like much but it makes a big difference when you're going all out racing...the car is def gonna be quicker taking it out to 6500 vs 6250ish question is is it worth the potential risk? Cost vs benefit lol. I'm not sure hoping some more experience gt500 guys might chime in. Mine is 111k 07 with the stock shit balancer on it. Gotta get that replaced with a 10% and this bolt you speak of asap. Nice video man I'm so jealous of the red. I wanted a red stripe delete car but ended up with a white stripe delete car instead Haha. I love it to death there is just something so sexy about torch red and race red.
For the first year and a half of ownership I kept rpm below 6k, and I'm just going to say drive however makes you feel most comfortable with the car. At the drag strip and now when doing pulls I'll take it to about 6500 and havent experienced any issues. From what I've heard from other owners they have no issues either with 6500. When it comes down to it though, it's your investment right? So I'm all for whatever makes you as the driver have the most confidence in the car at.
@@AllThingsBoost I shift at 6200 or so and the limiter is set at like 6500 I believe. That gives me a little room for error on the top end I guess. I may only shift at 6500 when I'm at the track or trying to get the best possible time on dragy which I plan to do very soon as I'm curious what shell do lol. Good advice and I agree.
Hey what's happening that's a good idea 💡 don't ever use the brushes at the self car wash it can be full of dirt & and rocks & it'll scratches up your mustang's 😮😢❤
Hey Man! what size tires you running they seem to fill the wheel well nice is it lowered too? thanks Johnny
GT
I'm running eibach Pro Lowering springs (2" rear drop, 1.6" front drop), then a 315/35/r20 nitro NT05R rear tire. On the stock wheels it's a bit too much tire, mine are a 9.5" wide wheel, and I'd suggest staying 295 or thinner, but a 28" tall tire fills out the wheel well perfectly. That's what these come out to, and same with the drag pack tire, those are a 275/10.5r15 M/T ET Drag
With the stock clutch and heat exchangers, can the 09 gt500 still be a daily driver?
Yep, as the car comes from factory it'll be fine for a daily, it's not until you start beating on it and want more performance that upgrades come into play, but even stock, the stock clutch can go semi quickly. Sub 50k miles
@@AllThingsBoost sweet!! Thanks, in that case I’ll at least swap the clutch with aftermarket living in the hill country.
Great info and videos 🤘
I have had 2 2007 GT500's. Check with Shelby before doing anything. The car may not be capable of what you're asking. This whole video is based on aftermarket equipment and advice. Yes, the harmonic balancer is no good when you mod. Yes, the clutch is inadequate if you want to do burnouts. The car was designed to be a high powered Grand Touring machine. Want to race? Get a Foxbody. They weigh 1,000 pounds less than this car. I have had many Foxbody's.
Check with shelby? Homie is dead, and shelby america says a wide body s550 GT with snakes added is a "supersnake" so I'm good.
You agree there are shortcomings so what is your problem again? Are you saying don't fix them? You realize that racing has nothing to do with most of the issues right? The aftermarket addresses the problems and make daily/street driving better than a failing clutch and under cooled supercharger system.
Thank you for sharing. Question, have you ever experienced a fail safe mode upon start up? Having the battery fully charged, it feels like a hard start and then the fail safe mode message shows up. I can sometimes turn it off and turn it back on and works, later on, the problem shows up again.
I personally have not experienced anything like that.
Usually when I read about a fail safe issue its throttle rated, but I can't say. If you have a way to pull codes via a tuner or OBDII scanner, maybe there is a code to point you in a direction that may not have triggered the check engine light to turn on.
Other than that, you may have to take it to a professional or talk with your tuner if you are tuned for further diagnosis
My Name is Noel, I have a 2010 Mustang GT500 Shelby Cobra . I having the same problem when turning the steering wheel it’s making noise also,can you please tell me what did you do to fix it.
Thank you
I had to replace my strut mounts, got rid of the noise
AllThingsBoost ok I’ll try that...thanks for the information.
What do you think about cooling for it? What’s something you changed that helped prevent heat soak the most ?
Have an 07 and plan on a cooling mod soon, cause the stock heat exchanger ain’t it 🥲
I'm running an AFCO Dual fan hear exchange and a 1.5 gal stock location intercooler tank than can hold ice. For normal driving and pulls it stays between 100-120, however at the track doing quarter mile runs it needs the ice. Filling the tank with ice I'll see 98-105 IATs, without they will be in the 140s after 1 run. Next upgrade would be a truck mounted tank and 1in lines.
how did you black out your deckled? I was planning on doing the same thing
Took it to a guy to get wrapped
I’m about to purchase 08 gt500 with 6miles anything I need to worried about?
6 miles? Yeah, tires, fluids, belts would be my main concerns. Also potentially the supercharger coolant pump. Bushing and the like also could be dry rotted. Just be careful
@@AllThingsBoost 6000 miles I meant
Rxt 1200 best clutch you can have .... and yes keep rpm to 6250 .. and bother pulley your car it won’t blow up your block lol trust me.. that’s what our cars hate is high rpms ...
My friend has a 07 gt500 and his car Boggs bad under load from turn signal and hazards any one help me out?
Thay sucks to hear. Unfortunately I have no idea what would be the issue, but I hope you guys figure it out. I'd imagine maybe there is a short or ground issue with the blinker system. But that is easier said than done to diagnose. Maybe check out the "GT500 Nation" FB page and ask there.
@@AllThingsBoost yeah I’m gonna have him check his power and grounds and circuit system
Inside door panel leather comes off:/
Facts, definitely forgot to mention that one. Thanks
My 2009 Shelby GT 500 inside door panels came loose at 30,000 miles.
I’d honk and be like go dry that next the dryers machines or something
"go dry that next the dryers machine"
Bruh, come on now 🤣🤣🤣 is that best you can english?
My Dream car!!Cool!!!
How much are u willing to sell it forrr???
45k
Do you need to upgrade the crank pulley bolt if you have the stock balancer? I have a 2010.
I'm honestly not sure on the 2010. If it's all stock, depending on how much power you have and your uses, it probably wouldnt hurt to get an aftermarket balancer and bolt, but I haven't heard of them becoming an issue until the higher (700 and up) hp range
@@AllThingsBoost yeah I'm stock except for a 2.59 upper.
Twobarpsi get the crank saver stud. That $150 stud can save you $15k+
Ask me how I know.
This is not just 07-09 cars. It is all GT500’s prone to this as well as coyotes and more. This is why MFP started making crank girdles too
@@PMPerformance that's insane that Ford can't design a bolt right, at this point in history? Does it work with the stock balancer? It said on one website it only works with the ATI pulley? Thanks
Twobarpsi it’s not really the bolt. It show the drilled the hole and the bolt size they used for the hole size.
You should check with Kinetic on their stud. I thought it would fit stock as well
“Budget Gt500”
I heard there are issues with ECU with the 2007-2009 GT500s, what are they specifically? Anyone know?
I've not heard of anyone having ECU issues with these cars. Not to say there aren't any, but it's not something I've heard about, at least in large numbers.
@@AllThingsBoost Cool thanks
What about electrical?
@@TheRealSteelBeowulf never heard about electrical problems I've owned an 07 for 2 years and followed these cars since they first came out. I heard of one car recently on fb groups that said he had to replace an ecu that was an 11-12 car which may or may not have the same ecu being 5.4 cars they bad stuff added to them in those years so maybe not never heard of that with an 07-09. The stock clutch which should be replaced anyways and the shit 2 piece ds all mustangs had get rid of it and get an mgw shifter. That along with the other usual mods is all they need to be pretty stout. My 07 has a gen3r with stock headers around 750 rwhp.
Super snake hood was a pain in thee ass trust me keep your stock hood .... I was like you wanted that SS hood it was a bitch and the cost was $$$$$$$ keep your stock hood brother
Ex 2009 owner now have a 2013
Nice man, I plan on rocking the stock hood for a good while longer. Appreciate all the comments, how do you like the 13 over the 07-09?
@@AllThingsBoost for the most part they where both fast my 2009 had a 3.6 kenne bell so it was really violent ...
The 13/14 is smooth feels the same way with the bolt ons and very torqy