Finding a Synthetic Shaving Brush with Scrub & Backbone
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I agree with you about the silk smoke knot. For me it has the backbone of a boar brush with the tips of a tuxedo, and it holds the water of a badger brush. I use to call this knot 'strange animal' because it is not springy or floppy like other synthetic brushes, and because it reacts like a brush with natural bristles. The strangest thing about this knot, (mine is 28 mm), is that its feel changes when you bloom it!!!
Believe me Chris, this knot is a strange animal indeed!
On another note I really enjoy your positive attitude since you have started uploading videos again 😉
Keep on bringing great content to the community and keep safe.
Greetings from Greece.
Thanks George. At some point I'll put it in a handle and give it a go. It certainly feels different from all the other synthetics I own.
Great video Chris, I loved all of the virtues of synthetic brushes,
Thanks Sam, I appreciate it:)
I have a Yaqi 28 mm Rainbow synthetic brush. Super soft with dense fibers and plenty of backbone. Love it.
That’s an impressive collection of synthetic brushes! Wonderful video; reminds me why I avoid synthetic knots. But damn, those AP Shave Co and Greydog brushes are gorgeous!
Yes, there are some really nice brushes in here and most aren't very expensive.
Thanks Chris, this was a good video, for me, because you started with some examples of knots that don't have much backbone. I like that in a synthetic. I don't have too many brushes that I like to use regularly and I'm thinking of getting away from badger hair altogether. Your Ariana and Evans brush is a beauty. Take care, buddy.
Thanks so much Mark. I'm like you, I don't look for scrub in synthetics at all. I don't really find it necessary. I hope you're doing great Mark. Cheers!
Haircut and Shave Co had brushes a couple years ago, 24mm tuxedo knot, high density and set to 54 mm height, best synthetic knots I have used so far
Thanks Sled, I appreciate it.
I have the AP Winter Handle with a 24 mm silk smoke knot and love it. It has soft tips with just enough backbone to lather the hardest soap easily. I also have just the silk smoke knot and intend to reknot a vintage Ever Ready with it.
Thanks Claude, I appreciate it.
Great video Chris, and such a useful insight into some of the newer knots. 😌👍
I agree, my good friend Frank is super talented. A highly technical shaver with an awesome touch and as he learned with shavettes, he had to learn to let the razor glide, and he’s brilliant at it.
Thanks DDave. Yes, Frank is an exception member of the Swedish 3. He really knows how to whip that razor around. I was pretty convinced he was an android until he got a small weeper about 4 or 5 shaves ago:)
Hi Chris. I found the Maggard Razor Black and white knots have a good amount of push back and above average scrub for a synthetic. I have a 26 mm and Rob Moffett set the loft at 54 mm...great knot.
Thanks Todd, I really appreciate it.
from what I understand, the Ghost knot from Turn and Shave is meant to be a synthetic boar alternative. It's supposed to be scrubby by design.
Thanks sir, much appreciated.
Really useful comparison, thanks!
Thanks Brian, I appreciate it!
Synthetic brush that is a imitation of a boar brush is the Omega S 10018 and 10019 models.
There is a bigger knot version, but I find that one too stiff.
These brushes are fantastic to lather with. They have all the properties of a synth brush (ease of use, maintenance...) but it has some scrub in it. I love them.
And the price of them is excellent.
Thanks so much Milan:)
I agree with you on scrubby brushes... One doesn't need to scrub exfoliate with a brush, it can lead to irritation . Splay is important for flow through. . So one need to find a good middle ground between Splay and softness. . Medium Splay, and medium softness, is probably a good place to start with synthetic brushes.. From what I have been reading, scrubby equals glue bump..
Thanks for the video - Sir!
Agreed Mike. Thanks brother!
Found this good one in the archives - thanks Chris. I have a T3 and like it and wondered if there was anything with a bit more backbone. Seems that is near the top in that category for synthetics. I do like badger and boar a bit better for now but synthetics have their place especially for a quick shave with no soak easy cleanup.
If you like backbone the APShaveco Silk Smoke knot has quite a bit as well I think.
I have a bunch of these original plissoft style brushes and they mostly feel floppy. I recently(about 2 weeks ago) purchased a razorock big bruce in the 24mm size and was blown away by how much stiffness and pushback it had. It's quickly become my favorite synthetic brush and I've only shaved with it since I've received it. I would give that a try for anyone looking.
Thanks so much for the suggestion Jed:)
Chris,
Great information. Nice explanation
Thank you
Thanks very much Krish:)
Man this is an easy answer for me! The ghost knot from Milton over at Turn n Shave! It's bright white and looks innocent but I couldn't get through a full 3 pass shave without brush burn! Heaps of back bone and mad amount of scrub!
Thanks Cris. Megatron Frank from Whetshaving & Stuff will appreciate it.
Great explanation Chris, think this helps out to when choosing synthetics. 👏🙌👊 stay safe my friend.
Thanks very much David, I appreciate it.
I've tried most of those and would say the synthetic silvertip styles have the most backbone. Best option is to set it yourself so you can adjust the loft to your preference.
You can definitely set the loft lower to give the impression of more backbone.
The silksmoke is a good option. I picked one up on the PAA Starcraft that works well. Also, the Timberwolf knots on the Maggards red and blue brushes are great too. T3 is great but my issue is that the handle is too thick for most brush holders.
Thanks brother. You may want to get one of those 3d printed brush holders or can't your brush in the holder. That's what I do:)
By far the most backbone and scrub in a synthetic brush that I have found is the one from The Body Shop. The same people who sell Maca Root Shave Cream. I bought one in Finland last summer. Wooden handle synthetic brush with all the backbone and scrub you could want.
Thanks Brain!
Omega makes the Omega S Brush which is a synthetic brush meant to simulate a Boar Brush. I've never used one so i can't speak from experience, but it sounds like that might be what he's looking for. Plus they are $7.99 at West Coast Shave. Maggart Razors has them too, with more variety of handle colors, and still under $10.00. I saw an old video where Nick Shaves used one. Hope this helps.
Thanks so much D.
Great knot advise 👍👍
Thanks GSM!
I find that my Synthetics tend to be soft on the tips, to get stronger backbone you tend to need a bigger shorter knot like about 26mm or bigger with 50-55mm loft, however, this just confirms what Chris was saying though. The main reason I love synthetics as they give soft feel on the face straight away (no break-in period required) and a sense of bigger backbone because the fibres bounce back. I don't personally have a big enough range of brushes in my collection to say what has the strongest backbone, but I do like my Yaqi Pony 26mm/55mm for a balanced brush with soft bristles and good backbone, although I don't use my brushes for scrubbing too much. PS: The shape of the knot can help too with scrub, I would think a more bulb shaped knot would give more scrub.
Thanks so much for your perspective Unc, I appreciate it. I don't really require a lot of backbone in brushes myself but it's nice to hear the thoughts of others on the issue.
Maggard Razors 24mm Tuxedo, hands down best synthetic... Soft tips, great backbone, probably exactly what Frank is looking for. Only synthetic I have kept in my collection, and it's on my regular rotation. At $13, can't beat that value.
Thanks Miguel, that sounds like a great option.
The Simpson t3 is a great brush, to me it’s priced well and it has good backbone. Ymmv, but for me it’s great.
It's not too bad. I think it's the best synthetic they've made for a long time.
While i will always be a badger man, ive looked into synthetics quite a bit lately. I've dipped into this too. Simpson Chubby 2 Synthetic has some gooooood backbone and proper scrub but feels really nice and soft on the skin. Yes, it needs quite a bit of force to splay, and its pricey. But a damn nice brush Most of the Yaqi brushes do a really good job being a nice softer middleground
Thanks so much my friend. Are you still making videos?
@@IAMCDB Haven't done them in quite a while. Would love to pick it up again.
@@LampuhkapsChannel Yea man, come back in, the water is fine:)
@@LampuhkapsChannel come on back in man:)
I would say ap shave co g5b has both backbone and scrub more than other synthetics I have tried. Turn n shave ghost knot would be another, but splays kind of easily.
This is exactly what I needed, I like the Plisoft knot, but it certainly could use some backbone, stirlihg's tuxedo brushes seem to provide a bit more backbone, I was looking into the Trafalgar T3 because of its price, but it seems to be sold out on WCS, but I feel that the tuxedo knot is almost there on performance. Based on this video I guess I will wait for WCS to restock the Trafalgar since it seems to have a bit more backbone, and has the Simpson brand behind it.
Hey Daniel, Maggard might have some as well. Thanks sir!
@@IAMCDB after a bit more research, I found that parker has two offerings the BSLY and the MISY seem to be good alternatives at a comparable price, the MISY offers the most backbone of the two.
@@colombianshaves9827 Thanks very much Daniel.
Silksmoke in a handle is very very soft, think the knot alone can fool you.
Imho, stirling plissoft 24mm type brush is not floppy and has prenty of bakbone, without being prickly. Its due to low setting of knot/higher glue bump. Not sure if that is on purpose or just chinese lack of quality control :)
Thanks Antonio, much appreciated.
The DS cosmetic barber pole brush has a fair bit of back bone, much more than any other of my synthetics.
Thanks very much Gareth, I appreciate it.
The Full moon 26mm from Turn-n-Suave best for me back home and soft
Thanks Graydog, I appreciate it.
Hey Chris and Frank, i have the Simpson Trafalgar T2 (24mm) the middle version of Chris's T3 and the APShaveCo Silksmoke V1 (with handle and my favourite knot) and i concur, they do have good backbone, the newer version of the Silksmoke has more backbone than V1 but isn't as soft, i also thought the Razorock Bruce had equal backbone but the one with the most backbone and Simpson recommend painting because of how much backbone it has is the Chubby 2 Synthetic but it is on the pricy side but boy, you have put quite a bit of pressure for it to splay, Muhle Synthetic has poor backbone in comparison, possibly worse than a Cashmere. Chris, i am impressed how white the tips are on the two tuxedo brushes from West Coast Shaving, i have an APShaveCo and they are quite grey.
Thanks Neil. I appreciate the suggestions and information.
My first synthetic was the satin tip from straight razors.com. After I got my first Razorock, And other synthetics, and went back to the satin tip, I quickly learned that the satin tip was much scrubbier than the other synthetics which I have picked up.
Thanks so much Lance, I appreciate it.
Big thanks! 🙂👍
You're most welcome. Hopefully there will be some decent suggestions in the comments.
Muehle syntethic and Omega Evo. They are on the price side.
Thanks Radu, much appreciated.
I have the Simpson T2. Soft, scrub, and backbone. Perfect! And no animal had to die.
It's a nice brush for sure.
I find the Razorock Italian flag brush to have have something resembling backbone as it's set so low. I can't use it daily as it irritates my neck, which is why I don't get the allure of backbone/scrub. To me is just another possible source of irritation. The point of the brush is to make lather which they all do, even the softest of them all (especially the softest of them all, the Plisson).
Thanks Trip. I share your view on brushes. I like to make lather with them and that's about it. I don't really prefer scrub myself but many people do:)
I have a WCS tortoiseshell that has decent backbone and is scruby/scritchy. They don't have the handle i have anymore but the WCS tortoiseshell collection torch is on sale for $17.58 right now (4-24-2020)
Thanks sir, much appreciated.
I enjoy the Omega Evo. The WCS Honeycomb is nice but not the Evo. The Simpson's Chubby 2 Synthetic is better at painting and can splay with the new ones. I know this isn't in the list but the Richman S2 innovator knot Synth and Badger mix knot is wonderful!
Thanks William. I appreciate the suggestions.
Hey Im late to the party but Jequil and Corneveo has 2 stiff synthetics, the brown one is scrubby and very stiff. The blue one is denser and softer but still lots of backbone. Both are like 11.99 on Amazon.
Thanks sir, I appreciate it.
Oh man you know what I shit you not I was thinking to myself today that I need to find an amazing synthetic knot. I love synthetic brushes
Thank my friend. Did you change your name? If so, I like it. The GG one was hard to remember:)
@@IAMCDB yeah I did man I needed something more shave appropriate (:
@@thedudeofshaving1749 that's good. The GG one was way too hard for folks to remember.
Check out the Supply Co Synthetic Brush ($39.00 plus shipping last I looked). It is a Ft Worth, Texas small business with an Austin, Texas distribution center.
I think it might meet your “scrub” needs.
Thanks Bradley, much appreciated.
Oh Chris, you made a brush video and didn't do a favorite brush video?
I am hurt.
Lol
I have been waiting for an updated favorite video for quite a while.
We have the same tastes in brushes and I want another brush.
Maybe you could give me a quick top 3?
Have a blessed week.
I need to make one for sure. Once I get all must brushes lined out I will.
@@IAMCDB I will wait and pray it is before Father's Day.
@@michaelreed649 Thanks Mike!
Frugal Shave has a White Feather Synthetic that has good backbone and has some good scrub as well. Check him out on Etsy. Good video.
Thanks Red, I appreciate it.
@@IAMCDB happy to help
I like soft and backbone. Scrub isn't good for me. I think that is why I favor the Razorock Big Bruce. It does a fantastic job lathering anything, splay is on point, and is very soft.
I like the Big Bruce as well J5:)
DS Cosmetic 26mm timber wolf/tuxedo(not sure which the correct name is) in Jade green has a dense, relatively low set knot which gives a decent amount of backbone.
Thanks Lee!
I don't go for synthetics but I have a few. I bought the Ferrari from West Coast and to me it feels very plasticky and cheap. I am considering the tuxedo as I like a little bit of scrub..good review..
Thanks Guy. I hope you enjoy it. I also hope you're recovering well.
Hi Chris. Great video. Nice brush collection! The second brush you showed i believe its a PAA aluminum handle with a synbad knot. My question is will that handle hold a 26mm synthetic knot? Also, is the handle about the same size as the A and E black and white handle brush? And how do you like it? Sorry for all the questions I saw that handle yesterday online and i was thinking about buying one. Thanks man. Cheers!
Hi Ryan. This brush is the PAA Switchback and I put a 26mm Synbad in it. I had to pull the knot in through the bottle of the ring to get it in. It wouldn't go in from the top down. So to answer your question, I think you can coax a 26mm in it as I did:) I haven't used the brush yet because the epoxy is still setting. I just put it in around 24 hours ago.
Over the years I have owned and tried a variety of synthetic knots. I do take one in my RV but I have yet to find one that performs like animal fibers.
Thanks very much Patrick:)
The Naked Armor synth brushes are full of back bone and scrub.
Thanks MC, much appreciated.
The only two that I have had in my den is the turn n shave and the razorock Bruce
Thanks Josh:)
IAMCDB you are welcome
IAMCDB you are welcome
If want some thing with scrub by a sally beauty supplies store synthetic brush it's 8 bucks it will scrub the hair off your face with out even shaving it rough but it's good it's now 2 years old
I have this sally beauty brush and can confirm that it's got some aggressive scrub. They're not dense, but they can scrub!
hahah, nice.
Oumo's ST-1 seems promising.
People don't give horse hair brushes a chance. The are soft with great backbone. I wish I could see more SOTD videos with horse hair brushes.
I've used a couple in the past and they were quite scritchy. Are they still that way?
@@IAMCDB There are extra soft versions from Zenith and Epsilon
Which knot, in your opinion, is the softest? I have a WCS two-tone synthetic. I might want something softer, if one exists.
Love your videos!
Hey Joe. The APShaveco cashmere not is the softest that I’ve tried personally. The APShaveco Synbad is also quite soft. Thanks for the kind words sir.
The PAA Starcraft has good backbone.
Thanks Trevor!
OMEGA S-Brush is dense and has backbone
Thanks very much Leonard:)
IMHO the Simpson Chubby 2 Synthetic and the Edwin Jagger XL synthetic are the best for backbone. Just my opinion.
Thanks Kirk, much appreciated.
Always welcome my friend.
I have heard you say that the Italian Flag brush had a lot of backbone, but in this video you you say not so. Has it been changed?
I bought an early version years ago and it seemed like it did. I revisited it last year and it didn't seem to have quite as much. That said, it could just be variances in batches.
Kent Infinity Plus? ,I've a Muhle Synthetic already ,i would like to know if It similar or not .
It's been so long since I tried that one I cannot recall.
Have you tried the Muhle silver tip fibre? It's AMAZING
Oh yes, many years ago.
@@IAMCDB The Edwin Jagger is twice the brush that the Muhle is. Ps I own them both.
@@peterharrison8756 I used to own both as well. I preferred the EJ also:)
Rich Hansen has two synthetics both have crazy backbone and one has enough scritch to satisfy any itch lol
I don't really like backbone in a synthetic to be honest. I did this video for someone who requested it. I always say, I scrub in the shower, I don't need to scrub my face with a brush:)
IAMCDB I like it super soft with a little bit of backbone because of thicker facial hair, I do not really like scritchyness at all ether. As long as it’s not a floppy mop lol
richman shaving?
Hello Chriss
I'm sorry but you are confusing scrubb and backbone. If a brush is scrubby it doesn't mean that it has backbone. A brush can have backbone and no scrubb. Those are characteristic of a quality brush. And the opposite is a scrubby brush with no backbone. That's what you usually get with those cheap pure badger brushes. A really scratchy brush with no backbone. Cheers
I completely understand sir. I don't really have a ton of need for backbone or scrub personally:)
Really interested in the Trafalgar T3after this.
It's quite a good brush and it comes at an affordable price.
@@IAMCDB I am researching a lot on synthetics now. Saw your i lather video on the Razorock Plissoft Silvertip. Really good comparison there.
@@dinalobanik2802 What are you looking for in a synthetic sir?
@@IAMCDB Sir I get brush burn very easily and I like to facelather. So something really soft which can build a good lather too.
@@dinalobanik2802 APShaveco Cashmere is the absolute softest and most gentle knot I've tried.
I’m 3rd lol I love synthetic brushes
Thanks Josh:)
Full moon back bone and scrub
Thanks again Graydog.
AP Shaveco tuxedo knot has backbone though tops are soft
He will also custom set the knot if you ask and pay a bit more
Thanks Dr, much appreciated.
Does the Maggard 24mm knot shaving brush have a good backbone?
I don't know to be honest. I've never tried one.
I'm here
Thanks sir.
Alpha brushes
💈👍🏻
Thanks Patrick:)
The Omega-S Brush has scrub and backbone but is cheap
Thanks Jill.
That may depend on the model, mine flops over easy.
Simpsons Trafalgar T3 is the winner 🥇, I enjoy it too much Amazing backbone, Soft, durable and a royal shape with a good price.
It's a really good brush for a great price.
Scrubby and backbone I like boar brushes for that..
Haha, yes, there's that:)
Is this video just an excuse to show off your brushes? 😊 Nice collection.
No. Actually didn't bring them all. I was trying to give some examples of what I know about and was hoping folks could give some tips for Frank. I really don't know which synthetic has the best scrub as I tend to avoid that feature in a synthetic.
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Thanks Fernando:)
The best Shave Brush on the market today is my Simpson Trafalgar's T-3 better then boar cheaper in the long run it is 29mm. i mic it' it's like buying a $275 badger hair brush, no cleaning the brush, no need for a brush stand, fast drying time, well not fall apart like a badger hair or boar can, cheap to buy, I have owned it for 5 years with no hair loss with no problems wheelchair Larry Merry Christmas
Great video Chris. I have PAA's Roswell knot and that is similar to Silksmoke knot. For me, they feel very close to Tuxedo knots so I think that would be a good one for Frank. In general, synthetics can vary in backbone but I find that they have mid scrub at max.
Thanks Tim. I agree, most synthetics just don't have a lot of scrub by nature of the synthetic fibre itself. I think you can simulate a little more scrub by setting the loft lower and packing it densely but i don't really like lower lofts on synthetics myself.