What Google, Facebook And Apple Can Learn From Microsoft’s 1998 Antitrust Fight

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  • čas přidán 5. 09. 2019
  • In 1995, Microsoft CEO Bill Gates published a memo entitled "The Internet Tidal Wave." Gates outlined seven areas where Microsoft could increase its focus on internet features, including a web browser. The next year Microsoft launched its Internet Explorer web browser. Microsoft faced an antitrust lawsuit by the Department of Justice in 1998 during the height of the Browser Wars. Its Internet Explorer was quickly becoming the go-to web browser for the masses, but the U.S. government argued it stifled competition.
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Komentáře • 256

  • @CNBC
    @CNBC  Před 4 lety +42

    Which browser do you prefer? Let us know in the comments below:

    • @fourfoxten
      @fourfoxten Před 4 lety +39

      Chrome

    • @vaibhavrajguru4459
      @vaibhavrajguru4459 Před 4 lety +22

      Firefox

    • @yahooboi261
      @yahooboi261 Před 4 lety +21

      Firefox all day. Opera is my second browser. Brave my third. Would rather use Edge than Chrome.

    • @melvinbutters2865
      @melvinbutters2865 Před 4 lety +10

      Google is a sears catalog now. You have to pay to be seen and they just use you to sell you trash and hide data that's easily available on duck duck go. Its lost its research functionality and is a censorious big brother tool now for authoritarian communists.

    • @DatSure
      @DatSure Před 4 lety +14

      FireFox

  • @officialspock
    @officialspock Před 4 lety +358

    The lady looks like she hasn't slept since the last anti-trust lawsuit

    • @mathisve
      @mathisve Před 4 lety +12

      LMFAOOOO it be like that tho

    • @ayubsaid2537
      @ayubsaid2537 Před 4 lety +1

      😂😂

    • @cardcode8345
      @cardcode8345 Před 4 lety +2

      spock dammm she’s a leftist

    • @NightSociety
      @NightSociety Před 4 lety +5

      @@cardcode8345 and you are a rightist.

    • @cardcode8345
      @cardcode8345 Před 4 lety +1

      Invesigator 2
      Wealth is an illusion, if Zuckerberg earn 5 billion day , he also looses 10 billion the next day. That’s Assets that work for them, may be the rest of the population should learn how to build assets, like they learn how to smoke weed and use n word in everything they say

  • @travisspazz1624
    @travisspazz1624 Před 4 lety +156

    I never had a problem with internet explorer, until I used a different browser. And by that I mean any other browser!!

    • @joeybaseball7352
      @joeybaseball7352 Před 4 lety +5

      Same. I never knew how poor I was, until I saw how rich people lived.

    • @solargoldfish
      @solargoldfish Před 4 lety +1

      Travis Spazz Internet explorer wasn’t a safe browser to use now it’s not so bad but it’s still a little behind the curve.

  • @MarkWTK
    @MarkWTK Před 4 lety +89

    Personally, i find it hard to leave Google. It's like the complete package. Maps, mail, classroom, CZcams. It's what i use daily :(

    • @mynintendogamingfeed5208
      @mynintendogamingfeed5208 Před 4 lety +15

      I also use Google. Like you said, it's a complete package, and the Android apps along with Google Play intergration into mobile devices.

    • @BvousBrainSystems
      @BvousBrainSystems Před 4 lety +32

      That's EXACTLY the point. Google provides a whole package of services so that you can just stay in their ecosystem, to the point where it's actually hard to leave it. Make no mistake, you finding it hard to leave Google is their goal

    • @AQuietNight
      @AQuietNight Před 4 lety +3

      @tommy aronson If you have Google, just make sure you do not get undressed in front of your computer.

    • @AQuietNight
      @AQuietNight Před 4 lety +1

      @tommy aronson I am not feeling validated after that response :(

    • @jewellui
      @jewellui Před 4 lety +3

      That’s kind of a good thing no? Google has an incentive to provide the best possible service and lots of useful tools.

  • @Pyrrhic.
    @Pyrrhic. Před 4 lety +77

    Anti-trust? What about those massive financial institutions that are too big to fail.

    • @jascrandom9855
      @jascrandom9855 Před 4 lety +6

      They don't have Monopolies.

    • @willinton06
      @willinton06 Před 4 lety

      Extremely big, not big enough tho.

    • @pewpewnim
      @pewpewnim Před 4 lety

      Enyaw they are all smaller than tech firms

    • @caucasianinvasion2972
      @caucasianinvasion2972 Před 4 lety +1

      Do you know how many random and regional banks are in the US or do you live under a rock

    • @maman89
      @maman89 Před 4 lety

      You know whats up.

  • @RailfanSrikrishna
    @RailfanSrikrishna Před 4 lety +61

    Internet explorer would been great browser if they changed the look,smooth video rendering and better design

  • @SkepticalChris
    @SkepticalChris Před 4 lety +56

    3:45
    That lady's got CRAZY EYES....

    • @spongebob6956
      @spongebob6956 Před 4 lety +2

      maybe she smoking Crack Cocaine she bought from the Dark Web

  • @aromaticsnail
    @aromaticsnail Před 4 lety +29

    0:45 Firefox: am I a joke to you?

  • @marcguevara162
    @marcguevara162 Před 4 lety +57

    Disney is a monopoly, and we are worried about an internet browser 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @joeybaseball7352
      @joeybaseball7352 Před 4 lety +6

      Pretty much everything is a monopoly. Think of anything, and there is always one brand you immediately think of first.

    • @ryanm2051
      @ryanm2051 Před 4 lety +9

      Marc Guevara please explain how Disney is a monopoly. Being a big company doesn’t mean it’s a monopoly

    • @marcguevara162
      @marcguevara162 Před 4 lety

      Joey Baseball you bring up a valid point... Kleenex ? Lol

    • @marcguevara162
      @marcguevara162 Před 4 lety +3

      Ryan M think about how they trying to control all forms of entertainment... and then let’s talk about the brain washing they do at their theme parks

    • @ryanm2051
      @ryanm2051 Před 4 lety +1

      Marc Guevara so trying to do something when there are 3+ competitors is not a monopoly, it’s called trying to be the best. And how is “brainwashing” people being a monopoly. Plus just like for the entertainment industry, there are multiple different theme parks they could go to

  • @darrenmaunders4196
    @darrenmaunders4196 Před 4 lety +4

    Congratulations on 1 million subscribers 👍

  • @kevinavila9489
    @kevinavila9489 Před 4 lety +5

    An analogy I often think about is Microsoft is selling cars, the OS is a car. If people buy a car, it's already complete with seats, steering wheel, engine, chassis, etc. Netscape is selling steering wheels. and Netscape wanted Microsoft to stop bundling the steering wheel to their car, so people would buy the steering wheel as an add-on from Netscape, Microsoft or others. However, steering wheels shouldn't be optional and should be part of the finished product. A computer with internet connection is a form of communication which should be a basic human right, so no additional purchase should be made to access the internet. My two cents.

    • @blaingunter
      @blaingunter Před 4 lety

      I was thinking the same, except with infotainment. It's like X company suing Ford for using Microsoft Sync and not offering X competitor. Just sounds dumb to me.

    • @wordart_guian
      @wordart_guian Před 4 lety

      why does every computer analogy has to be about cars???

    • @wordart_guian
      @wordart_guian Před 4 lety +1

      Windows N edition was the worse. It sold like 2 copies. No one wanted an OS without movie maker or media player. of course

  • @Marios-br1hm
    @Marios-br1hm Před 4 lety +14

    I still use microsoft edge its great believe it or not :)

    • @Blood-PawWerewolf
      @Blood-PawWerewolf Před 4 lety +1

      Marios definitely.

    • @blaingunter
      @blaingunter Před 4 lety +1

      It's truly the best right now for 10 users. On a laptop, it uses the least power, it uses fewer resources, it integrates nicely, and the setting aside tabs feature is great. The new Beta build for Edge suuuuuuuucks. It's just google chrome. Terrible. I don't want a bloated malware prone browser. I like edge.

    • @nadeemshaikh7863
      @nadeemshaikh7863 Před 4 lety +1

      @@blaingunter That's great but Chrome is highly regarded as the most secure browser widely throughout the industry.
      Heck, even iOS bounty prices got cheaper relative to Android ones, in part because Chrome is a lot secure than Safari.

    • @blaingunter
      @blaingunter Před 4 lety +1

      @@nadeemshaikh7863 surely you jest. I know it use to be. It use to be my favorite. It was light and fast, great rendering. Now it's a bloated infected mess. Every single computer I work on that as Chrome, whether Windows or Mac, ends up with Malware because of and from Chrome. I still get why people like it, but it is a malware prone browser these days. Probably because it's such an easy and big target.

  • @JamesLewis2
    @JamesLewis2 Před 4 lety +2

    The Mozilla project had begun before the Microsoft settlement (when Netscape made its abandoned Navigator 5 project open-source), but the first stable release of the Mozilla Suite happened in 2002, and Firefox would not be released until 2004 (after briefly being known, during its beta and alpha periods, under the names Firebird and Phoenix, before having to change those names because of trademark conflicts; there was also a Firefox Software at the time, but that company was okay with Mozilla releasing a browser under that name).

    • @itsjo5085
      @itsjo5085 Před 4 lety

      Yeah Internet Explorer was never a good browser it just got the market share because it was the default browser

    • @JamesLewis2
      @JamesLewis2 Před 4 lety

      @@itsjo5085 My understanding is that IE was technically superior to Netscape during most of the late '90s, and the few months between the release of IE 6 and the release of Netscape 7 would be the last time when IE was the best stable Web browser available.
      Importantly, IE was the first browser to implement a way to update part of a Web page without refreshing the whole page, allowing a technique that would be called AJAX when competing browsers created their own superior implementations.

  • @auro1986
    @auro1986 Před 4 lety +5

    why was everyone afraid of a web browser in a an operating system in those days?

    • @kendelion
      @kendelion Před 4 lety

      it made money, lots of it in the internet bubble

    • @RossCampoli
      @RossCampoli Před 3 lety +2

      Because Microsoft was using their dominant market share in the operating system market to completely undercut any competition in the web browser market. When Microsoft was giving away IE to >80% of computer users, no other browser had a chance to make a dent. This was viewed as inherently anti-competitive, which was the logic basis of the case for breaking up Microsoft.

  • @gustofzephyr947
    @gustofzephyr947 Před 4 lety +7

    How the horse almost became the default choice for traveling until the automobile came along

  • @ebena.k.8032
    @ebena.k.8032 Před 4 lety +16

    Internet explorer is just above average but Microsoft reserves the right to push their product.

    • @JonathanMoosey
      @JonathanMoosey Před 4 lety +2

      In other words, if you don’t like Microsoft you don’t have to use their operating system or software

  • @TreyWaylifestyle
    @TreyWaylifestyle Před 4 lety

    That’s crazy My Grandmother got the same computer still works 🙌🏾
    Like what have long time

  • @adampedersen5384
    @adampedersen5384 Před 4 lety +4

    Holy s*it that Starbucks number one customer right there. lady hasn't slept for years

  • @godarayudhvir
    @godarayudhvir Před 4 lety +1

    2:06 That's where internet archive.org comes in handy

  • @rminami
    @rminami Před 4 lety +3

    Surely CNBC has better stock footage than this lol

  • @amsears60441
    @amsears60441 Před 4 lety

    This is great

  • @alexhehaw7247
    @alexhehaw7247 Před 4 lety +6

    The profesor looks high

  • @charan775
    @charan775 Před 3 lety +2

    "What Google, Facebook And Apple Can Learn From Microsoft’s 1998 Antitrust Fight" that they can get away with it no problem

  • @angryshoebox
    @angryshoebox Před 4 lety

    I very much remember the Microsoft antitrust case. I was a Macintosh user back then, and IMHO I think the case was a particularly big deal to Mac users. Windows 9.x was ornery and prickly compared to Mac OS, and Apple was still in the process of getting back on its feet after a disastrous 1995-'96. Browsers I've used(been on the internet since 1996): Navigator 3.0 & 4.x, IE 5 for Mac OS, Firefox, Chrome.

  • @RudieObias
    @RudieObias Před 4 lety

    Netscape Navigator for LIFE!!!

  • @agentK1896
    @agentK1896 Před 4 lety +4

    Edge is actually pretty good. It downloads Chrome much faster than IE ever did.

  • @davidwittberg683
    @davidwittberg683 Před 4 lety +11

    Always spread my tech use, use Firefox and search on duckduckgo, got yahoo mail.

  • @davinp
    @davinp Před 4 lety +5

    What about Mozilla Firefox? Apple has not overtaken Microsoft

    • @andrewburgemeister6684
      @andrewburgemeister6684 Před 3 lety

      Firefox came out in 2002 after the anti-trust case was settled.
      Microsoft is still the most prominent OS for Personal Computers, but they’re slice of the pie in ALL operating systems (including iOS, Android etc in addition to PC OS’) has been greatly reduced.

  • @r29
    @r29 Před 4 lety +10

    Anti trust is always used to help other companies who offer a worser product, it is never used to help the consumers.

    • @Akjugo
      @Akjugo Před 4 lety +2

      Anti Trust does help consumers because it promotes competition.

    • @r29
      @r29 Před 4 lety

      Akpobari Godpower thats the myth they teach to support government power. The truth is there has never been a true monopoly and the one that got close does it by offering a lower price like in the this case with a free browner.

  • @SamuelSarette
    @SamuelSarette Před 4 lety +3

    I wish they'd clarify "Microsoft made it intentionally difficult to install their software". It's talked about several times, but I have no idea what that would mean. Surely, an installer is an installer. There wasn't some app store to deny them access to.

    • @HunterShows
      @HunterShows Před 4 lety

      I also don't know what that means. IIRC Windows actually looked out for those certain programs like Wordperfect and did something...pretty juvenile; Microsoft had it coming for that kind of abuse.

  • @HunterShows
    @HunterShows Před 4 lety +2

    It didn't "almost" become the default browser, it was. Obviously competing with free is quite difficult. But IE had good design as well. Netscape was bloated. IE was considerably simpler. It's too bad they threw it away by bloating it up with IE 7 - if they had just added a few little things and updated security, along with web standards, it would still be great.
    So if there's one good thing about it all...Microsoft made all web browsers free for everyone forever. Wow.

    • @jewellui
      @jewellui Před 4 lety

      Almost because not everyone used Windows

  • @chrisjamel8461
    @chrisjamel8461 Před 3 lety

    I see the government as being part of the market and the referee as long as these two don't interact unfairly.

  • @ruthdartez2887
    @ruthdartez2887 Před rokem

    Good

  • @EMBer3000
    @EMBer3000 Před 4 lety

    Shouldn't they look into the banks first? Seems like any business called to big to fail should be broken up as fast as possible. Tech companies seem like a small problem in comparison.

  • @yodaisgod2
    @yodaisgod2 Před 4 lety +3

    Nutscrape vs Exploder

  • @saulgoodman2018
    @saulgoodman2018 Před 4 lety +9

    So they couldn't compete. So they sued.
    Microsoft did not stop anyone from installing any software or any other browser.

  • @TeguhSantosot_so
    @TeguhSantosot_so Před 4 lety

    So, how about apple mac safari or Android google search, Map and ext, AT&T, CNBC , TIME Warner this so Ironic

  • @anubhavsharma1504
    @anubhavsharma1504 Před 4 lety

    You had me at 'almost'.

  • @__-ff8tv
    @__-ff8tv Před 4 lety +1

    Who's watching this on chrome?

    • @blaingunter
      @blaingunter Před 4 lety

      Even better, who is watching this on Chrome while not getting malware from Chrome.

  • @kokaikokaihyaaammaa1058

    Bravo is a better browser.

  • @DryLog420
    @DryLog420 Před 4 lety +1

    What does any of this mean. Usually good content from CNBC but this was a total word salad.

  • @techzone2009
    @techzone2009 Před 4 lety

    Linux distro from Microsoft is on the way

  • @WahyuSetiawan-sz4lc
    @WahyuSetiawan-sz4lc Před 4 lety

    Why facebook mention instagram as a competitor?

    • @jewellui
      @jewellui Před 4 lety

      Must have been prior to the acquisition

  • @xuhanlienmienvotuyet
    @xuhanlienmienvotuyet Před 4 lety

    2'53: " but i eat success might not have been purely from the popularity of windows". ANYONE COULD TELL ME WHAT "I EAT SUCCESS" MEANS?

  • @WarriorsPhoto
    @WarriorsPhoto Před 4 lety +1

    Interesting report. That is all.

  • @thegreatcalvinio
    @thegreatcalvinio Před 4 lety +1

    Last time I was this late, Internet Explorer finally got to the website I entered two days ago...

  • @adiposerex5150
    @adiposerex5150 Před 4 lety

    I preferred Novell.

  • @Mariofan2479
    @Mariofan2479 Před 4 lety +1

    My favorite Internet Explorer was Internet Explorer 6. The one that was installed with Windows XP. Now that one I remember being just as good, if not better, than google chrome.

    • @HunterShows
      @HunterShows Před 4 lety

      It was excellent. Had a few shortcomings, but great advantages.

  • @blaingunter
    @blaingunter Před 4 lety

    Still better than Chrome.

  • @toady7741
    @toady7741 Před 3 lety

    What the public can learn from Microsoft's 1998 Antitrust fight.

  • @RoundupResistance
    @RoundupResistance Před 4 lety

    Has Microsoft become complicit in anti-competitive conduct?

    • @andrewburgemeister6684
      @andrewburgemeister6684 Před 3 lety

      All the big tech companies have been accused of and in some cases found guilty of anti-competitive conduct.

  • @godarayudhvir
    @godarayudhvir Před 4 lety +1

    3:44 Looks like a Deep Fake

  • @cardcode8345
    @cardcode8345 Před 4 lety +1

    Just use Linux

  • @amilhasan3724
    @amilhasan3724 Před 4 lety +1

    2:58 I think the CD is being put the wrong way 🤓

  • @JaySee5
    @JaySee5 Před 4 lety

    NOPE! Netscape Navigator was *FREE!*

    • @wordart_guian
      @wordart_guian Před 4 lety

      only after IE came out.

    • @JaySee5
      @JaySee5 Před 4 lety

      Nope! Navigator was ALWAYS free for non-commercial users.

    • @wordart_guian
      @wordart_guian Před 4 lety

      @@JaySee5 I checked and seemingly it was at first, then it was paid, and then it was re-free, all within a year

    • @JaySee5
      @JaySee5 Před 4 lety

      No, it was always free to download. They made a retail box version you could buy, but it was always free to download. Then they got rid of the retail box.

    • @wordart_guian
      @wordart_guian Před 4 lety

      @@JaySee5 thanks (I wasn't there then, I was just checking wikipedia)
      btw, how did you download it without a browser? (or maybe, that's where the IE joke started)

  • @Ayo22210
    @Ayo22210 Před 3 lety

    That was the wrong move to miss treat Microsoft

  • @roe2012
    @roe2012 Před 4 lety

    Yep, microsoft almost have no competitor. How abt google? Haha

  • @harryphantom908
    @harryphantom908 Před 4 lety +1

    This is half true.

  • @theeverydaysam408
    @theeverydaysam408 Před 2 měsíci

    I guess Apple didn't learn.....

  • @Exenova8032
    @Exenova8032 Před 4 lety

    That’s why I use Linux

  • @nashe1351
    @nashe1351 Před 4 lety +1

    Google chrome > internet explorer

    • @NightSociety
      @NightSociety Před 4 lety

      Wrong. IE is the best, better if MS let it improvements. IE>Brave>Firefox>Safari>Android>Opera>Chrome.

    • @blucow6677
      @blucow6677 Před 4 lety

      @@NightSociety wrong it's not called internet explorer anymore, it's Microsoft edge

  • @SilverFan21k
    @SilverFan21k Před 4 lety

    Does anyone know, could Bill Gates have become the first trillionaire? It seems like he was on track during release of original xbox and xbox 360

    • @andrewburgemeister6684
      @andrewburgemeister6684 Před 3 lety

      Yes, but he stood down in 2000 to a part time role at Microsoft and a full time one at The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and donated a heap of his money to various health, social and scientific endeavours, his the biggest philanthropist in the world. And then Amazon and Jeff Bezos happened which shuffled the rich list.

  • @ingislakur
    @ingislakur Před 4 lety

    Watching this on my internet explorer =)

  • @saitejakondepudi2106
    @saitejakondepudi2106 Před 4 lety

    Almost

  • @markcrooks2455
    @markcrooks2455 Před 4 lety

    Who is this woman giving commentary? She looks like she hasn't slept since the '80's...

  • @daartistboi
    @daartistboi Před 4 lety +2

    Why the DOJ hasn't even stopped Disney?

  • @nerikzniek5922
    @nerikzniek5922 Před 3 lety

    We need to take down Facebook

  • @houchi69
    @houchi69 Před 4 lety +2

    Firefox.

  • @raulahti
    @raulahti Před 4 lety

    Funny how Opera browser was completely forgotten... :)

  • @TOXIN714
    @TOXIN714 Před 4 lety

    Windows surfce rt. Cant download any othet browser and these are tablets

    • @wordart_guian
      @wordart_guian Před 4 lety

      that's because no other browser was ported on ARM back them. Today that's not the case (the pro X has ARM and runs every browser)

  • @dirkcurritzki9585
    @dirkcurritzki9585 Před 4 lety +3

    The default browser for me to download Chrome

  • @plinyelder8156
    @plinyelder8156 Před 4 lety

    This is old news

  • @couchgamingnews9379
    @couchgamingnews9379 Před 4 lety

    I read Antichrist

  • @juvent.h6699
    @juvent.h6699 Před 4 lety +2

    The Government is also a monopoly

    • @jascrandom9855
      @jascrandom9855 Před 4 lety +2

      Government is Government.

    • @ShidaiTaino
      @ShidaiTaino Před 4 lety

      juvent hatungimana you need to search of the definition of government because thats what a government is

  • @gigi9467
    @gigi9467 Před 4 lety

    Anti trust amazon,disney,google,att etc

  • @alessandrasilvagomes2014

    Papagaio gosta de comer girassol
    Óleo mineral de semente de girassol
    .

  • @JacobWilson777
    @JacobWilson777 Před 4 lety

    I look at internet explorer with the utmost disgust it's like the first thing I delete when i load windows.

  • @bloopbloop2019
    @bloopbloop2019 Před 4 lety +1

    I don't even understand some of the videos this channel makes...

  • @Carlos_Jzx
    @Carlos_Jzx Před 4 lety

    Google has become default for android!
    Is like doesn't matter what tech we talk about is like they get big boom they hug the market.

  • @marcguevara162
    @marcguevara162 Před 4 lety +4

    And BTW, Edge is horrible!

    • @stinger0772
      @stinger0772 Před 4 lety

      The new Edge that's in Beta is not bad. My browser of choice now is Brave.

    • @angelicpowers3526
      @angelicpowers3526 Před 4 lety

      You might be right shat is your thoughts on bing

    • @blaingunter
      @blaingunter Před 4 lety

      Why? It's been great for me. Loads faster than firefox, uses fewer resources than chrome, doesn't infect me with malware, and integrates well. The new Beta sucks ass. It's just chrome.. so it's bloated, slow, heavy on resources and is malware prone.

  • @danielmcdonald283
    @danielmcdonald283 Před 4 lety +1

    I hate this stuff. Myself as a consumer know when I get an iPhone what I’m getting myself into. I don’t want other people software on it. I want Apple to control everything. Because it easy. The people fighting this are people 40+ people that aren’t technically inclined.

  • @SG003
    @SG003 Před 4 lety

    Government wanted to take action on a company because they were giving free product😆lol how evil

  • @stachowi
    @stachowi Před 4 lety

    Use this comment as the "Steve Ballmer is an idiot" button.

  • @bignuts45
    @bignuts45 Před 4 lety

    used Netscape from day one on the net and never had a problem with it. never understood why people bitched about not being able to switch. all the lawsuit did was turn Microsoft into a massive lobbyist in DC. the federal gov is one huge monopoly that doesn't seem to bother people...

  • @Topfloorcoke
    @Topfloorcoke Před 4 lety

    First

  • @ReevansElectro
    @ReevansElectro Před 4 lety

    Microsoft? What is that? I have used Macs since 1985 and never gone to the dark side.

    • @SamuelSarette
      @SamuelSarette Před 4 lety

      And Apple used Internet Explorer as it's default web browser until long after Firefox helped break up that Monopoly ( at which point it borrowed the KDE project's browser and put a new coat of paint on it )

    • @ReevansElectro
      @ReevansElectro Před 4 lety

      @@SamuelSarette My first browser was Netscape and I did actually try IE for Mac but quickly abandoned it.

  • @mgsp87
    @mgsp87 Před 4 lety

    We need protection from government, not from tech companies

  • @WahyuSetiawan-sz4lc
    @WahyuSetiawan-sz4lc Před 4 lety

    Why facebook mention instagram as a competitor?