I know what you're thinking... - Datsun Z Rebuild Episode 14

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  • čas přidán 19. 08. 2024
  • Yes, I'm definitely in over my head. But y'all know how I do.
    Watch the full playlist: • Datsun Z Frame-Up Rest...

Komentáře • 90

  • @aa-dz6cr
    @aa-dz6cr Před 3 lety +1

    I know one guy that literally took 30 years to restore his Dad's MGA. He moved it from house to house across the country as he changed jobs. A retired professor of mine restored a 65 Mustang after he quit teaching. Said he got up every week day just like going to work.
    Be careful. Many drivers have been turned into parts cars by taking them apart and never putting them back together.
    I'm deciding how far to go with my 78Z and think the plan will be to do a section at a time keeping it as close to driving as possible. After looking real close at rust, I'll start with the front end and do the suspension, engine bay, engine and put it back together. Trans, brakes and really the suspension mechanically are good.
    We'll see. Have good fortune on your project.

    • @RestorationForBeginners
      @RestorationForBeginners  Před 3 lety +2

      You're absolutely right. If I had known that it was going to be this tough, I would've thought twice about doing this. But I probably would've done it anyway.
      If you go back and watch the very first video of this frame up restoration playlist, you'll find my thoughts laid out on this subject. Here's the simple thing: I've always wanted to do this. And I won't EVER be in a better situation to do it. I finally have my own garage, I make a good enough living for now to afford it, I'm young and healthy enough to have the energy, and I'm not married or have kids yet to split my non-working time. So why would I not at least give it a try?
      I spent 2 years driving this thing around working on the engine, but always left wanting more. I'm taking the dive now. Some spend money and time traveling the world, raising kids or pets, gardening, buying nice shoes and clothes... everyone's got their thing, their passion. Mine is working on this piece of shit Z. Let's find out if it works out or not. Won't ever find out if I don't even try.

    • @vapedragon983
      @vapedragon983 Před 3 lety +1

      @@RestorationForBeginners so glad I found your channel man. I recently bought a 1974 260z in decent condition for 5000. I have a ton of work to do, and part of me wonders if I'm in over my head. I'm in a similar spot as you, I probably won't ever have a better time to do it, but I took the dive. Watching your channel inspires me to not worry so much and just get to it. Keep it up man.

  • @christopherhowton8734
    @christopherhowton8734 Před 4 lety +1

    I was always told at a young age that you do the job right the first time. That way you never have to worry about anything during the process of the build. Keep up the great work!

  • @felicealketti1534
    @felicealketti1534 Před 4 lety +2

    You do that alright and I am telling you that over here in Germany everyone who is restoring their rusted us import is making sure there is no, NO, rust left.
    It's great to see you actually take care of your z, rather than doing just a paint job that makes it like beautiful from the outside but from the inside it would be still ugly!
    Greetings from overseas :)

  • @adelaideinvigilation5230
    @adelaideinvigilation5230 Před 4 lety +3

    Every time you take a panel off you are right on the money there is rust or damage inside and looking around your garage at how you stock product on the open shelves I have no doubt that the rebuild, however long that takes will be as comprehensive and thorough

  • @tcullen5895
    @tcullen5895 Před 3 lety

    Looks to me like you are doing a pretty good job. Most people don't realize how much work is involved in restoring old cars, you are finding out the hard way and sharing your frustrations with the world. Keep up the good work, you will get there.

  • @mundosaurus
    @mundosaurus Před 4 lety +3

    I’m seriously gonna start doing the same thing to my 78 280. Seeing all the different places rust can form has me a little scared but seeing you do it first gives me hope! Keep it up man!!

  • @s14dorikin
    @s14dorikin Před 4 lety +1

    Loving the progress. I used to have a '76 280Z, same color as yours, back when I lived in Virginia. One of my biggest regrets to this day is selling it. I've been looking for an affordable project S30 to start restoring, but they're getting harder and harder to find, especially with value/prices rising. Have you checked out any of "Ahh...Garage Time"s videos? Hes rebuilt a couple classic Porsches and his videos are super in depth and helpful if you're looking at doing your own body work and rust removal/repair. He was also a first time auto restorer/rebuilder, but it's clear his Engineering background definitely helped him along the way. I've watched all his videos and they've been really inspiring, especially since I'm looking at getting a TIG welder and teaching myself to weld aluminum. He shows how he makes templates of original parts and makes his own replacement parts from scratch, saving tons of money and learning a lot along the way. I've since found your videos and have enjoyed them, especially since they're S30 specific and that's what I'm looking to make my first rebuild project. Check out Garage Time, you may learn so helpful tips for your Z build. czcams.com/play/PLO2EVK95VV2S3bxN-v3sx3SvJL9FgeZII.html

  • @JordanPayneLV
    @JordanPayneLV Před 4 lety +4

    Another guy I know on CZcams who goes this far into detail is “home built by Jeff” go check out his Alfa-rari build. He literally just tore apart his Alfa’s front end just like this. Really interesting and committed stuff

    • @RestorationForBeginners
      @RestorationForBeginners  Před 4 lety

      Yeah, he seems to get mentioned a lot in my channel's comments. I've watched most of his Z episodes, sounds like we have a large overlap in audiences. The difference between us is that it's not his first rodeo!

  • @harlest71
    @harlest71 Před 4 lety

    I love what you're doing because I feel the same . That said, I'm a lot further in my build (78 280z) and understand your passion for doing it right and YES! You want to do it your way. Just a bit of advise from an older guy is when you start pulling off those panels, don't go to far without fixing that area. It gives you a sense of how much work is involved for each area. You are doing a great job!!! Keep it up.

  • @BarelyEpics
    @BarelyEpics Před 4 lety +2

    Man.... I've replaced my floor pans in my car but this...this scares me. My hats off to you man. It needs to be done, but I'm just not at a point in my life where I can do this to my 280z. One day ill do it like this, but it'll probably be to a different car like a 240z. my Z just isn't worth doing this to quite yet.

  • @synthpro
    @synthpro Před 2 lety

    Your work is incredible!! I am working on a 76 280z 2+2 and your videos are extremely helpful. I wish I could go as deep as you have with your Z...maybe one of these days I can but for now I'm just working with the preservation process to kill rust and repair critical areas.

  • @blackpearlmedia7797
    @blackpearlmedia7797 Před 3 lety

    This one was super in depth! So many hours! Proud of youuuu

  • @trevorflanagan4873
    @trevorflanagan4873 Před 4 lety

    I just picked up a ‘76 280 and have started following your channel very closely. I too am a relative beginner and can’t wait to see more!

  • @keigorjai01
    @keigorjai01 Před 4 lety

    you don't even have to explain to the them. this is your car, your time, just do it in you way. You are enjoying to do this, you can listen to their comments, but you don't have to follow it. There is no right or wrong answer. I ain't sure about the result of this car, but one thing I can be sure is that you will definitely learn something during the progress. That's priceless.

  •  Před 4 lety

    Screw what those guys fuss about. It's your car, your money and time. If you want to rebuild the thing from the ground up, more power to you! (And more interesting content to watch for those of us rooting for ya!)
    But yeah, having a car that you know is truely rust free and prepped so it can't happen as easy again, is a very rewarding feeling, especially when it's finished!
    Hang in there! You can do it!

    • @RestorationForBeginners
      @RestorationForBeginners  Před 4 lety

      Nah man, no hard feelings to those guys at all, they're all great dudes. They're just looking out so I don't stress myself too much.
      I think the issue with going to this level of OCD isn't necessarily the time (at least for me) and more that I'm having to gather a lot of "specialty" tools that I don't have.

  • @RyanSampsonRPh
    @RyanSampsonRPh Před 4 lety

    Im in the same situation as you except everything I took off was damaged and needed to be taken off. Finally starting to put my panels back on. Keep up the great work

  • @t-ray5656
    @t-ray5656 Před 4 lety

    Its always best to do what you think is needed, everyone will have an opinion. Personally, I think if you're going to spend time and money on restoring a classic car you might as well do it right, especially if you have the skills and determination to see it through. I'm working through a 240Z rebuild at the moment and your uploads are an inspiration. All the best with it.

  • @PoofyPandaChris
    @PoofyPandaChris Před 4 lety +1

    Love you videos man, i have a 280 and i always procrastinate because im intimidated but you really do motivate me! Keep up the good work man!

  • @cowies3976
    @cowies3976 Před 4 lety +1

    I’ve been watching ur videos since I first got my own 280z two years ago. (I’m 15)Ur videos are amazing and I learn a lot from them. You really give me the inspiration and confidence to rebuild and my Z. I’m currently working on the engine and rebuilding it slowly. Thanks for the amazing vids I love your channel and keep up the fantastic work man. 👍

    • @RestorationForBeginners
      @RestorationForBeginners  Před 4 lety

      Thanks for the kind words and best of luck with your build. It's that sometimes foolish confidence that pushes us to make mistakes, learn, and be better off for it. We didnt buy a 50 year old project car to have it easy!

  • @loosebolts4537
    @loosebolts4537 Před 4 lety

    Hey brother keep bringing the content with your style and how you want to do your build, that’s how I am I have to double question everything I’m doing when I’m in the garage! Keep it coming!

  • @aa-dz6cr
    @aa-dz6cr Před 3 lety

    I may do the Z because the value has gone up so it will at least be worth what I put into it from here on out. I met a person older than me who said that he used to fix what he liked ... and always lost money. He then said he switched to more expensive projects and made money. Parts cost more, labor cost more but in the end, you come out.
    He then showed me a pic of a Porsche 356 in pieces loaded on a trailer. He had $10,000 in the car at that point. I've been watching 911s and they are going up.
    You taking the time to learn metal work now will be useful through out your life.

    • @RestorationForBeginners
      @RestorationForBeginners  Před 3 lety

      The value of the car appreciating was definitely a factor in choosing the Z for sure. I don't plan on selling the Z, but it helps to know that I'm at least getting something out of it.
      Metal work honestly isn't my favorite, I'm much more drawn by the mechanical aspects of working on the engine, suspension, etc, but I suppose this is something of a rite of passage. But you're 100% right, it's definitely useful to know how to do.

  • @Triplenickelmotorsports

    You will get to enjoy it one day. It's a ton of work and I am sure you will get frustrated from time to time, but to have it documented and to be able to look back and see how this car transformed will be amazing.

  • @hectorromero3536
    @hectorromero3536 Před 4 lety

    Dude following your lead on rebuilding my 72 240z and also keep it up! just like you said do it the way it makes you happy😉 cause only you can pick your favorite crayon 🖍 color 😬👍🏼

  • @smannings
    @smannings Před 4 lety

    Hey man, I've had a similar experience. I am in a major 'while i'm here' mode, but my biggest thing is to make sure that if/when I finally get paint on this thing I know it's all solid metal. I don't want to cut corners and leave a bunch of rot to ruin the car years down the road. Go for it, make it yours, and do it exactly the way you want. It's all part of the experience!

  • @Vandrid
    @Vandrid Před 4 lety +1

    man I love watching you work! keep it up

  • @dereksmith6769
    @dereksmith6769 Před 4 lety

    I bought a 78 280z with front end damage not to bad..and about 80% of the floor rusted out.. and much more rust spots here and there. I have had alot of people tell me to junk it but I refuse too. I love z cars and iv gotten alot done with the one I have . So I agree with take your time and make sure it's right and perfect for you.. just sub hope to alot of good stuff here..

    • @RestorationForBeginners
      @RestorationForBeginners  Před 4 lety

      Hey Derek, right on. I've seen a few examples of these Zs that are in MUCH worse condition than mine getting brought back. So much respect for those guys.

  • @pedrofarias881
    @pedrofarias881 Před 4 lety

    I usually don’t comment on youtube videos but your work and passion shows in what you do. Don’t let people tell you it’s not worth it, I’ve come to learn that the harder something is to get done, the bigger the reward is at the end. There’s also a say that goes something like “aim for perfect at first, and if you fail, you’ll end up with something pretty close to it”.
    Anyhow, just thought I’d let you know I’ll be watching how your project develops. I fell in love with a 240z I saw in a magazine about 15 years ago so I did a little research and I found it.
    www.google.com/amp/s/www.motorpasion.com/tuning-preparaciones/datsun-z-car-asi-se-prepara-un-datsun-240z/amp
    Even though that’s in Spanish, that’s the only webpage I could find showing a few pictures of the car. It also has a skyline engine in it. Worth taking a look.
    I wish you good luck in this project and just know I’ll be following your channel and watching as you go. If you ever bring the car around South Florida, give me a shout. I’d love to see it.

  • @jarretpaul
    @jarretpaul Před 4 lety

    Great video. I like your talk in the beginning. I've been contemplating for over a year how far to repair my 280zx. The value is not there in comparison to 240 or 280z's but I think that it could be higher value car in the future and imo, value is not that important to me at the moment. Although, when it time comes to sell and move onto a new project, I still don't want to be too crazy in the hole. At the moment, I'm still quite sure I'm only going to deal with the major rust area's so I can get more years out of the car instead of full rust repair. I hope you keep your channel alive, its very nice to see beginner steps. When you watch the pro's, they make it look so simple and easy.

    • @RestorationForBeginners
      @RestorationForBeginners  Před 4 lety +1

      Thanks man, I never got to drive a 280ZX but I'm sure they're great cars that are currently underappreciated. I would've spent a bit extra to get a 240Z if I cared about the resell value. I don't plan on selling this 280Z ever unless I get into some severe financial straits. This project will never be done, and the blood, sweat, and tears I put into this car will never be worth anything close to anyone else as much as it is worth to me.

  • @MrJimm1e
    @MrJimm1e Před 4 lety

    Great work bud. It was entertaining seeing you go past the point of no return, there's no going back now! :) love what you are doing. I agree that you should keep that beam running between the front chassis rails, it looks savable.

    • @RestorationForBeginners
      @RestorationForBeginners  Před 4 lety

      I have some 11 gauge plate left over from building a welding table that I think I'll use to beef it up.

  • @mohamedsh9163
    @mohamedsh9163 Před 4 lety

    Keep up the good work doing it right is definitely price to pay but the end result is worth it all 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @Hammy135
    @Hammy135 Před 4 lety

    You can get replacement plates for those hood hinge mounts, to save a bit of time. I think you’ve got to do it the way that makes you happy as long as you’re willing to give up a lot of free time. I’m enjoying watching 👍🏼

    • @RestorationForBeginners
      @RestorationForBeginners  Před 4 lety

      Will do. I think this car will be a lifetime reminder of how I spent my pre-kids years and the friends I made along the way.

  • @01AceAlpha
    @01AceAlpha Před 4 lety

    In the end, doing everything right will be the best. If you leave any rust hiding, it will keep you from sleeping the rest of your days!

    • @RestorationForBeginners
      @RestorationForBeginners  Před 4 lety

      Could not agree with you more. I actually get weirdly excited when I find a new rust spot, since I know if I fix it right, I won't ever have to worry about that area ever.

    • @01AceAlpha
      @01AceAlpha Před 4 lety

      It’s the smart thing to do. The money and time you are investing, it’s like renovating a house and leaving a bunch of rotten wood in the structure knowing it’s there!

  • @geraldbullardjr
    @geraldbullardjr Před 4 měsíci

    Loving the videos, but watch the sound levels during the music overdubs, way too loud. Otherwise hats off to ya, you're a brave soul with as little experience as you state having to tackle this big of a project alone :)

  • @danjavier10
    @danjavier10 Před 3 lety

    All everyone needs to think about is, if they had someone else doing a restomod to their Datsun, would they prefer they did it like this or not worrying about every rust spots ??

  • @ruperto805
    @ruperto805 Před 4 lety

    Hey I appreciate you commenting on us we need to keep the discussions and yea we mean all good judgment we want to see this car come out great

    • @RestorationForBeginners
      @RestorationForBeginners  Před 4 lety

      Sounds good man, definitely easier to keep up with the comments while in quarantine =)

  • @av8ferg237
    @av8ferg237 Před 4 lety +2

    I’m worried for you. Removing is usually 3 to 5 times easier than putting back together. Good thing you have all this on video. We have a saying in my line of work, “perfect is the enemy of good”. You sometimes have to weigh the cost (not just financial) of trying to make something perfect. Sometimes you inadvertently make it worse. Life throws many curve balls and you don’t know what kind of time you’ll have to put all this back. During a pandemic and no kids you can probably get a lot done. I’m cheering for you but biting my nails too.

    • @RestorationForBeginners
      @RestorationForBeginners  Před 4 lety

      Hey, you seem like a great dude, I always appreciate your insights. I hear you. Who knows what will happen. For what it's worth, I'm actually starting to have fun again.

    • @av8ferg237
      @av8ferg237 Před 4 lety

      Min, you’re doing good. I was getting worried since so much time past since your last video. Was hoping you were doing okay. Glad to see you’re making progress.

    • @RestorationForBeginners
      @RestorationForBeginners  Před 4 lety +1

      @@av8ferg237 Ah I can see how that would look. Yeah the lack of updates had more to do with not having enough "interesting" footage to make an episode rather than my losing motivation. I actually had to spend a bunch of time researching, learning how to weld and to use new tools, etc. I'm back now though!

    • @ReinierKorth
      @ReinierKorth Před 4 lety

      I like that quote a lot “perfect is the enemy of good”. I believe that too.

    • @av8ferg237
      @av8ferg237 Před 4 lety

      This guy is doing similar work on his 78’ Z. Might be some good techniques here to assist you. czcams.com/video/P8f2Wo_zBxo/video.html

  • @ferdinand2506
    @ferdinand2506 Před 4 lety

    Your Best s\is Good enough, Mate !!!
    I did my 260 Z, 3 years now, AND COUNTING...
    I Have to remove the petrol tank today. no power to the pump, why...

  • @alexabc123
    @alexabc123 Před 4 lety

    A bit worried how the frame is supported on that wood. It looks like it's laying on a plank laid flat horizontally and only supported in the middle, I'd be nervous about the edges of that wood snapping off!

    • @RestorationForBeginners
      @RestorationForBeginners  Před 4 lety

      Yeah, that's fair. The frame is lighter than you think, but I've been meaning to weld up a more sturdy stand for it.

  • @SevenOcLk
    @SevenOcLk Před 4 lety

    Awesome job bro. Its better to do it right the first time.

  • @marcelgeber6644
    @marcelgeber6644 Před 4 lety

    GREAT INSPIRATION ! KEEP THIS UP ! ;)

  • @daronnall922
    @daronnall922 Před 4 lety

    Have you heard of Pancho's Garage light blue 240Z. You would like his mods and ideas.

  • @joycarter672
    @joycarter672 Před 4 lety

    Looking for a crossbar for 280zx 1980

  • @rabmparker
    @rabmparker Před 4 lety

    Wondering what the chance are that you could find a donor car for your new front end???

  • @chaseincats
    @chaseincats Před 4 lety

    What are those small spot-welded panels you're taking off - are they for added structural support or what

    • @RestorationForBeginners
      @RestorationForBeginners  Před 4 lety

      It's the reinforced bumper mounting locations. My buddy showed me the 240Z he's working on, and it looks like they don't have those. definitely makes me feel better about taking them off.

  • @armankordi
    @armankordi Před 4 lety

    Those plates you're talking about around the 14:00 mark....
    I have worked on a 240z and 260z and can say 100% that those bumper mounting plates are not on the 240z. They're on my 260z

    • @RestorationForBeginners
      @RestorationForBeginners  Před 4 lety +1

      Oh good, theyre not going back on then!

    • @armankordi
      @armankordi Před 4 lety

      @@RestorationForBeginners There is actually a lot of weight shedding potential with the later S30 chassis cars (260, 280) because they were strengthened and reinforced for government bumper legislation and accident safety.
      Your mileage may vary, however and do research before taking someone off the internet's word for it.

    • @RestorationForBeginners
      @RestorationForBeginners  Před 4 lety +1

      @@armankordi Definitely. I have a buddy that lives close by who is doing a frame up resto on a 240Z and he showed me his front grill area. Definitely doesn't have those plates. I'm removing a ton of weight from the car, but a lot of it will go back in when I'm strengthening up the frame. So in the end the unibody might weigh the same, but the weight will be much better utilized (I hope).

    • @armankordi
      @armankordi Před 4 lety

      @@RestorationForBeginners good luck brother from me and my 260z

  • @terrymitchell2184
    @terrymitchell2184 Před 4 lety

    im doing the same build how did you get the rust out of your cowl . I might have to take the whole thing apart

  • @ericofrancia8928
    @ericofrancia8928 Před 4 lety

    what tool set up are you using to remove the undercoating?

  •  Před 4 lety

    It looks very rusted.

  • @acescottking
    @acescottking Před 4 lety

    You're doing great work. Sometimes it's hard to keep from going too far down the rabbit hole, but knowing it's done "right" gives you a lot of satisfaction. I'm nearing the end of a nearly 5-year restoration on my '71 240z and even though I've spend twice as much as I'd budgeted, the finished car will be worth every penny. I don't have a CZcams channel but I've made a pretty good website showing most of the work, along with some tips and tricks. Take a look when you need a break dealing with the rust trauma; Ace240z.com

  • @peterdawson8180
    @peterdawson8180 Před 4 lety

    I've never been the first viewer on anything before. Yah.