2024 Polestar 2 Long Range Single Motor | Sydney to Melbourne EV Drive
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- Only 2 DC Charging stops were required to drive Polestar 2 (Long Range Single Motor variant) Electric Vehicle from Sydney to Melbourne in Australia | Video by Tesla Tom of Ludicrous Feed in October 2023
2024 Polestar 2 Long Range Single Motor | Sydney to Melbourne EV Drive
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- Accommodation at Quay West Melbourne was paid for by Polestar Australia
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00:00 Introduction
01:29 About the 2024 Polestar 2
03:10 Resetting the trip computer
03:29 Ensuring full charge the night before
04:03 Trip Planning
08:50 Adaptive Cruise Control & Pilot Assist
10:03 Breakfast without charging!
10:46 A discussion about efficiency
12:52 Arriving in Gundagai
15:28 Plugging in at Gundagai Chargefox
17:38 Cost of charging at Gundagai Chargefox
18:03 Highway driving between Gundagai and Barnawartha North
19:19 DC Charging experience at Barnawartha North Chargefox
20:30 Cost of charging at Barnawartha North Chargefox
21:16 Arrival into Melbourne
21:33 Trip Computer update
22:18 Charging at hotel basement carpark (permission granted)
22:29 Tour of Quay West Melbourne
22:48 Melbourne to Sydney summary
23:28 Entire journey trip stats summary
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Thanks Tom - great video! My MY24 RWD was held up in Melbourne last week when they realised the towbar needed a new module from Sweden to work with the MY24. All fixed now and due for delivery when they figure out how to get it to me on the island - SeaLink ferry quoted them $4000 for the truck!
Just a few minor points - the MY24 is not only RWD and has the new Smartzone, it has also has a new battery with an extra 4kwh, a new permanent magnet motor from Siemens and a new inverter. The Pilot pack has a powered tailgate, it’s just not kick activated.
Thanks for the summary, yes there are some nice new features for the MY2024 cars. I was highlighting that externally the main visible difference is the new smartzone instead of the grille 😃👍
Enjoy the new car!
Absolute legend. Thanks Tom. Disappointing that the range was nowhere near the advertised 654km for the Polestar 2 2024 LR version, but this really helps make people more confident about driving a long range EV a decent distance. I hired this car, the old version standard range Polestar 2 2022 with about 450km of range, and loved it. Agreed though, they need to flatten the floor - at the front and back as well.
I don't understand why 125kW chargers are not ubiquitous on the Hume. Having to stop for over an hour at a 50kW charger is just about doable, but that makes for quite a long stop, and not much use if you're in a hurry.
Awesome review.
Agreed 50kW on the Hume is too slow for this type of journey. 4x Minimum 100kW stalls per location dotted along the freeway would be ideal
Feels like your infrastructure is where we were around 5 years ago over here. Now most places are above 100kW and 4-8 chargers per site is more normal than less. Also almost all Tesla chargers are open for all EVs. I think you will have a pretty quick development and you will notice improvments for every year.
I have a 2021 DMLR P2 now but wait for a DMLR 2024. Will be really nice to see the difference. Cheers from Sweden.
I hope so! Our EV growth is expanding so will be good to see more chargers 👍
Looking forward to your Wallbox review.
Stay tuned 👍
Great video. Love my polestar 2 also!! Orderd a Polestar 3 last week❤
Congrats!
Great work Tom, and great informative videos for Aussies Tom. I have my MY24 Long Range Polestar 2 on order and not far away. Were you using Pilot Assist and active cruise the whole way. The info I have been given is the most efficient for highway is no active cruise as this allows for coasting mode like a lot of mod cars, and as you would know one pedal driving once you hit city/towns.
I was using Pilot Assist and active cruise for most of the distance. Seems to be an ongoing debate re: coast vs regen and whether it makes a significant difference at 110kph
I find the CC/regen helps with keeping to the speed limit which of course is handy with highway patrol lurking around
Great video Tom
Thank you
Great video Tom. I know the Fed govt has some money allocated for charging infrastructure. I think we need to ensure that money isn't wasted by giving them solid feedback like this. Proper covered charging facilities with minimum 150kW chargers (I think there initial brief was only for 75kW chargers?). Maybe we need to start a petition with the minister? My last trip to Melb was in the Model 3. Easy, peasy.
Pleasure. I’m happy to keep doing trips like these to document the current state of play when it comes to non-Tesla DC charging on our highways and if it will help infrastructure to improve in Australia 👍
This was a very good and informative video, I drive long distances for work and have been hesitant to get a Pure EV due to this, but your video and review was truly helpful! Thankyou. 😊
It definitely can be done with some planing before a long drive 🙏
Thanks Tom. Recently came back from Melbourne as you drove down and averaged 17kWh per 100. Seems a fair figure on both vehicles.
Agreed. It sits somewhere between the Tesla 3/Y (150-ish) and the BYD Atto 3 (close to 200)
Another fine road trip video Tom. Good to see left most lane keeping example. Pity a lot of your fellow Hume Motorway drivers still haven't learnt this valuable road etiquette (& safety) lesson. 😔
Thanks. Stick to the slowest lane unless overtaking.
Great work LF.
Thank you
Good job Tom… definitely a good road tripper, proved short charges are the quickest way to travel with EV, its a shame the infrastructure isn’t evolving at the speed the cars are and probably the main reason Tesla is killing all other manufacturers in sales and development, thanks Tom I always enjoy 👏👏
Pleasure. Agreed I’m slightly disappointed that things haven’t really improved at these locations from when I did this drive in Jan 2023 with the BYD Atto 3. Sure at Gundagai the chargers at least have moved out the front of Oliver’s but they are throttled now to 50kW sadly
I love watching your videos
Thank you 🙏
I do Gundagai and Euroa as stops in a RWD model 3 120kw at each location. The usage was a surprise (on the good side) I have seen much worse consumption for the PS2 on road trips.
Perhaps the refresh RWD is more efficient? I too was impressed with the numbers at the end
Nice trip
👍
Nice review! We have the Ioniq 6 AWD 18" wheels and the new 24 PS2 RWD here in BC, Canada. Both are darned good cars. The I6 seems to have slight better efficiency but the PS2 has the bigger batt so their overall range is pretty close. We will be doing a side by side drive this weekend for a more direct comparison. This summer we have put way too many km on our I6 (@24,000) and the overall efficiency is about 14.2 kWh/100km.
14.2 is very good
14.2 is pretty good - I started at 12.0 in the middle of winter in the Blue Mountains outside of Sydney (-5C mornings), I'm regularly getting in the 9.0-9.5 range on my morning commute now so my average is coming down steadily - at 11.0 just now but about to go to 10.9 on my way home today. (2023 Tesla model 3 RWD)
Thank you Tom for a very informative trip and video.
But that stop at Gundagai… it’s absolutely disgusting that a major stop which is heavily used by thousands of motorists/truckies every day, is allowed to have such appalling potholes !! I just don’t get it - it wouldn’t take much to repair the road surface.
Agreed, I wasn't impressed with the road to Gundagai
Thanks Tom and Joy of course for being your DP on the journey. That efficiency is rather good I'd say. I like the Polestar 2 just wish it didn't have that monster centre console, too coccoonish and no room for 'man spread' I find never mind the transmission tunnel in the 2nd row. Like the Ioniq 5, my fav EV but don't fit in it, they are both nice looking EV's and love both of them. Aim for GPS speed of 100km/h or 110km/h not the speedo rate as that is not accurate in any car and police use GPS speed as the mark anyway but they always add a little anyway for allowance. Need more Pheasants nest setups get rid of those poorly reliable Tritium(or another name that gets bantered around Social Media) chargers or even better pull through sites like they have in Europe.
Agreed the centre console is a downside of an otherwise well appointed vehicle. Would love to see more ground-up EV charging stations. Hopefully within this decade 🙏
Oh and the Waze GPS was showing an under-offset of 3kph when cf with car speedo
Thanks for the video. Great car let down by crap charging infrastructure. Would loved to see that thing posting 205 numbers charging!
Agreed. We need more and better quality charging infrastructure
I did the drive from Batlow to Dubbo once every 2 weeks over the past year and that road at the first stop you made near Gundagai hasn’t changed at all. Still rough and potholed. Shame there isn’t chargers off the highway like in Tumut. I like to take little detours when I’m doing big drives like Sydney to Melbourne. I’d be interested in your thoughts on how comfortable the Polestar was for the passengers on the long trip.
Comfy for all occupants. Many times there was at least one passenger asleep 😴
@@LudicrousFeed thanks Tom. I still haven’t purchased an EV. I do a lot of country trips and hoping the infrastructure will improve. Chargers on the Newell Highway are few and far between at the moment
Enjoy the vids and regular streams. Should have driven at speed limit. Ev range estimates are crap, own both model 3 & Ys and 75-80% efficiency is the norm. Doesn’t make or break it for me but range confusion and lack of transparency needs to improve.
Yes as explained midway through, I reverted back to 110kph (ie legal limit)
Great video. I'm curious as to why you didn't try any of the superchargers, the plug for the polestar looks like it's in the right place. I know not all of them are available for non teslas. Were the ones that work with non tesla not in convenient locations?
Good question. The equivalent Tesla superchargers on the Hume Hwy ie Goulburn, Gundagai and Wodonga are not yet open to non-Tesla vehicles. I could have used Campbelltown closer to Sydney but I didn’t need to charge in either direction as my state of charge was already quite high
Very useful to see what you can expect with the P2 RWD. I wonder why your efficiency was so much worse (on the return) than the recent NZ Review with 13.1 kWh/100km over a 560km stretch. He did have slower average speed at 74km/h due to driving through 3-4 small towns, but mostly had 100km/h on the highway.
Interesting … I mean we had 4 passengers and cargo. Maybe we had a lot of headwind
Great car. I like the Polestar 2
I’d opt for the Long Range Single Motor with Pilot pack (no glass roof!)
Nice! Surprisingly it wasn't too warm with the glass roof during our journey but then again the weather was quite mild
I suspect it would be a dealbreaker for me in Qld!
Eating around the corner at The Dog On The Tuckerbox is nicer. Something to consider next time.
I'll take a look in future, thanks for the suggestion
Hi Tom, I am contemplating to do the same trip from Sydney to Melbourne early next year. Do you think it is better to travel on the weekend like Saturday or Sunday to avoid trucks, hence flying stones? I haven't done this trip for years but 10 years ago I used to get broken windscreen twice when I was driving between Sydney and Melbourne often. Your trip seemed to be very smooth.
My suggestion is not to follow too close to big trucks for the fear of flying gravel. The risk of traveling on the weekend is that you may potentially face queues during peak times at DC chargers given there are more recreational EV drivers on the road
Also in early august we could only get 1 car charging on the 350kW chargers at Barnawattha North. It would fail with 2 vehicles at once
It really is quite frustrating seeing these broken chargers not properly maintained
@LudicrousFeed we had a Sixt rental. Had to call Chargefox twice to get the car to charge as the chargefox card didn't work :-(
Halfway through one session another car came beside us on other 350kW and couldn't get it started. Called support, who reset the charger but it resets both 🤬
As you can see from my spreadsheet (link in vid description), the charge session cut off randomly (without an apparent reset) on both journeys which required me to walk over to restart 😩
@LudicrousFeed I missed your spreadsheet. But still they are quite old now. NRMA/RACV should be looking at replacing them will more reliable brands. It's a major arterial route
Byd seal vs polestar 2, if you could pick today, what would you choose after knowing both?
I’m personally all about value and I can’t go past that of the BYD …
How's the comfort level on those seats? I've got the LRDM PPP, might do similar trip soon. I reckon I'll require 3 stops
Very comfy. At one stage all passengers were asleep on the highway 😴
In early August only 1 x 350kW was working at 50kW.
A bit sad they still haven't fixed it
Yeah it’s frustrating 🙄
@LudicrousFeed when they moved the chargers they should have gone Kempower chargers :-(
Awesome video Tom keep up the great work......still prefer Tesla 😂😂😂
😃🙏
Tyres sound noisy on this model. Did you detect any Modele separation from being based on an ICE platform?
It was actually a fairly pleasant drive to be honest, my passengers were asleep for a lot of the ride 😁
A fender bender knocks out the brains❤
Same can be said for most cars - there’s electronics all over them these days
Did you have to plan the stops independent of the trip software? Or does the car's navigation have the functionality of routing you to the next available charger?
No unfortunately it’s not that smart at this stage … Tesla EV trip planning is still the gold standard in 2024
- I usually do some research prior to the journey to make sure I know where the backup chargers are
@@LudicrousFeed Thanks and presumably you didn't use the Tesla chargers because they weren't compatible?
At the time this footage was recorded, the Tesla Superchargers en route were not available to non-Tesla vehicles. Best to check the Tesla app for the most up to date locations where Tesla superchargers are available to all EVs
Any reason you didn’t use the supercharger? Are these not open to all EVs in Australia?
Not all Superchargers are open to all EVs - at the time of this drive, the locations were only locked to Tesla vehicles
Why did you not charge during the breakfast stop? Would it be bad for the battery to charge at this point?
Good question! Not that it’s bad for the battery but the charge rate is slower at a higher % hence we decided to drive on
@@LudicrousFeed ah yes makes sense, I guess it was not worth the hassle for a few %
Does the route planning pickup Tesla chargers that support non Teslas ?
I’d have to get another loan to check 👍
@@LudicrousFeedNon worries. Perhaps that’s an interesting thing to check when doing reviews, as that would open up quite a few more options charging wise for non Tesla EVs. With more Tesla chargers likely opening up over time. And reliability of Tesla chargers is the best there is..
Hey Tom,
Which one do you recommend based on your experience?
Tesla model 3 long range or this one??
It comes down to your requirements. The Tesla is probably a better all round value proposition when it comes to tech, efficiency and easy of charging. But for other intangible metrics eg luxury, comfort, uniqueness then the Polestar stands out. Check out my video on why a Polestar is worth considering: Who buys a Polestar 2 in Australia? 2024 Performance Dual Motor LR
czcams.com/video/fvL2MdyvqDs/video.html
@@LudicrousFeed Thank u
Did you consider three shorter stops, to stay in the sweet spot of the charging curve?
Yes we did consider this but I wanted to show a two-stopper could be done for the nay-sayers. I’m sure they’ll think of something else to complain about though lol
I have done the same trip in a model 3, The first time I did Goulburn, Wodonga, Euroa. I found I could make Gundagai with charge to spare so from then on I did Gundagai & Euroa only, it works out pretty much the same time overall, just a touch quicker 2 stops.
Starting with 100% (RWD LFP) Home-->Gundagai 387km / 85-87% used Charge to 90% --> Euroa 338km 75-80% used charge to 70% --> Melbourne 170km 35-40% used charge at destination whenever.
@@TB-up4xi So much easier in a Tesla! If the third party DC chargers were as reliable, I’d have less charger anxiety in a non-Tesla 😁
One stop strategy..... two stop strategy...... You've been watching too much F1 Tom :-) Of course, no sub 3-second stops here!
EVs need DRS for better efficiency 🏁
Great car but bad charging infrastructure. But that improves quickly after the ev fleet gets bigger. Chargers popping up everywhere here in Sweden now and almost everyone installes at least 6 stalls att every location.
6 stalls at every location! That what we need in AUS
"shouldn't be rain", when driving to melbourne, jesus you're optimistic
Haha yes well I meant at least on the freeway
I guess if one uses the 'electric higheway " from Adeaide to Brisbane travel is fairly managable otherwise it's a non runner....Lack of service tech's for charging units appears to be a growing problem.... Polestar/Volvo might do better if it invested in a charging network rather than showrooms/advertising/influencers.
Influencers are cheap 😁
On a serious note though, I agree - it’s time for OEMs and automakers to start investing in charging infrastructure. Why let Ampol/BP take the charge? So to speak
I’m assuming @gregj3515 is referring to the relatively better populated EV charging arterials between Brisbane and Adelaide via Sydney and Melbourne
@@LudicrousFeed Maybe gregj3515 meant to say ‘as well as’ and not ‘rather than’ ?? I for one appreciate you and your families effort in bringing us this video. Your videos highlight the true driving range and issues experienced in normal driving conditions.
Eventually they’ll have dedicated ‘drive through’ charge stations with a roof, instead of these ones tacked on the side of a service station. At least then you could charge if you’re towing something and you’re not standing in the pouring rain to connect up. One day…….
@@oldchev2850 “Ground up” EV stations with drive through stalls, solar canopies and comfortable food/beverage lounge type facilities? I’m optimistic it will happen one day 👍
@@Sensei_Sifu yes I totally agree. Purpose built and not just an add on. Thought needs to be put into the design. I think of older people too that have trouble reversing.
Is that the magnesium color or the snow color?
I’d been pondering that myself. I want to say magnesium
@@LudicrousFeed After watching the entire video, I also think it was the magnesium since its looked a bit greyish in sunlight. Thank you for the reply!
How does this compare overall compared to your 3?
Looking back at my old records on my spreadsheet (link in vid description)
Aug 2023 Model 3 SYD CBR SYD was 143Wh/km
Jun 2023 Model 3 SYD OOL SYD was 145Wh/km
@@LudicrousFeed Check you Aug 2023 Model 3 figures. Looks like the 172Wh/km figure was carried over from your Aug 2023 MG4 road trip (your spreadsheet has both vehicles with the same EV Database efficiency which doesn't seem right).
@@zelig9625 Great pick up! Yes that was an error on my part. I went back to the Aug 2023 Model 3 CBR vid and the final efficiency recorded by the car was 143Wh/km which was more in line with my Gold Coast trip. I’ve also updated the EV database figures. Appreciate you spotting this 🏆
Wall box is the most expensive charger?
Price adjustment coming soon. Stay tuned
With that stupid pillar next to the gear shifter, that automatically counted me out of the Polestar 2. It's just unnecessary and most people hit their knee on it.
Yeah the centre console is chunky
About 15% less efficient than a Tesla Model Y RWD std model. My 2022 Tesla Model Y RWD got 14.6 kWh/100 km on my SYD-Melb trip in Jan 2023 on the Hume. This is 15% more efficient than this Polestar 2 2024 Long Range model @ 16.6 kWh/100 km for same Melb-Syd trip
We got similar efficiency numbers for our previous 3/Y road trips (see link to spreadsheet in vid description)
You sound like a lot of fun
Just a random thought. Would you ever do a SYD-MEL or SYD-BNE drive review during peak travel seasons? Like the start or end of a long weekend? We hear a lot of horror stories in FB groups, but would really like to know what it's like. I think many would appreciate an honest and realistic picture of what really goes on. I know a lot of people who only religiously drive interstate during peak periods so it is a genuine concern.
Deep Breath ... yes I would consider this to document the current reality 😭
Lots of patience required
What would be even better would be to bring along someone from Chargefox, Evie or even Tesla themselves to show them what happens
You're right - we were in Coffs in the 2022 Christmas break (with our hybrid not the EV) - At the Tesla SC at the end of the Park Beach Plaza shopping centre there were 20+ cars waiting for their turn to charge, there are 6 120 kw chargers at the plaza, lets say an average 40 min each charge that's around 2 1/2 hours wait for the car at the end of the queue before they can start charging.
is it okay to charge to 100% every time with the polestar 2?
Depends on the battery. If it’s NMC/NCA then best to charge to 90% regularly only
what battery is in the long range? @@LudicrousFeed
LR will be NMC - the car will tell you its recommended daily charging limit - check under the charge settings
Aww I missed Tom in Melbourne again lol or was this trip for EV show?
A lovely family holiday sponsored by Polestar 🙏
Your CCS charging experience is no better than it is in the US, apparently. Broken chargers, reduced powered chargers, etc. This is not the charging experience if you buy a Tesla. Easy as getting gas/petrol. That's what it needs to be if there is to be widespread EV adoption.
Agreed. The non-Tesla DC network needs to improve
Kilo- metre please! As in kilo-watt, kilo-joule, kilo-gram!
Hmm makes sense I suppose
Indeed it does! lol
Dog on the tucko box?
On the road to Gundagai
@@LudicrousFeed You know. I looked it up. And I remain confounded! lol.
$87k!
🤑
Is polster Chinese?
“Sino-Swedish”
Produced in China but roots and design origins in Scandinavia
Also, parent company Geely (which also owns Volvo) is Chinese based
Yes. But poor value compared to BYD, which gives you much the same if not better for 60% of the price.
PSA: parking next to a BYD runs the risk of coming back to a charcoal polestar 2
How so?
@@LudicrousFeed they just aren't engineered to the same standard, in the coming years i think we'll see quite a few of them light up in australia - especially after an accident
Even with the BYD Blade LFP battery which is supposedly the safest battery in the world? The Atto 3, Dolphin and Seal are all equipped with the Blade battery
In USA a guy in a Tesla was followed home, robbed and killed in garage. I'll keep my 22 years old low-key car that says I am poor, even if I am not.
lol better buy a car that can’t be followed!
But on a serious note, if you feel unsafe at any time, vehicle or otherwise, best to head to the nearest police station
Lot of money, even though its nice.
Sometimes you get what you pay for 😁🤑
I don’t think we get what we pay for polestar. But Tesla I think we so get what we pay for. It’s just what i see unless someone can prove otherwise.
@@Dan007LoveKhmerMusic Value is subjective I suppose 👍
A good demonstration of why it’s better to just buy a Tesla to benefit from the supercharger network.
Let's just hope we get more reliable chargers at these locations along the Hume
should be driving real at 110 km or it`s not real
It was 110kph past Goulburn to Melbourne
Return Melbourne to Sydney was basically 110kph
Useless to have an EV with just 50W charging. Ain't noone got time for that. Australia is so behind in EVs, it should massively build out 350KW chargers everywhere. Why bother with anything less? Will only keeps us years behind.
125kW should be the standard. That's 20 minutes for a decent top up.
You drive too slow. not good. speed limit is 110
You did listen to what I was trying to say right? About the speed and efficiency experiment?