Saw this posted earlier, "Should Americans be traumatized by the happenings at the Trump rally, or should Americans just pretend it was an elementary school and get over it?" Asking for a Nation tired of double standards! VOTE BLUE up and down the ballot in Nov to save our country from Project 2025 (the republican blueprint) and auto cracy!!🇺🇸💙
Didn't the dude also get mad Lennon said the Beatles were more popular than Jesus? I know he was obsessed with catcher in the rye or something, but also recall something about the Jesus thing
Mark David Chapman is a religious nut who thought he was Holden Caulfield. It had nothing to do with wanting to be famous. You’re thinking of John Hinckley Jr.
No one wants to talk about how MAGA is: 1. Heavily armed 2. Unwilling to compromise 3. Unable to agree, even with other conservatives It was only a matter of time.
@@lucy101 Remember Qanon? More Trump/Epstein links got leaked a few days before the shooting. Maybe this shooting had nothing to do with it but, hardcore Qanon must know about Trump by now.
@@albertoandrade9807 And what do you think matters to undecided? How much obliviousness, ignorance, and apathy does one have to have to be truly undecided about Donald Trump in 2024? The reason Republicans use the tactics they do in an environment where undecided people determine election outcomes is because those tactics work for them. The appropriate assumption is that Republicans have identified what a meaningful number of undecided people want to hear and are saying it.
When Trump told the Secret Service to back off long enough for him to get a photo op, and shook his fist and yelled to his followers "Fight! Fight! Fight!", HE made it political.
I keep trying to talk people out of it. It doesn't matter what just happened, he's bad for our country. That stupid fist thing just made it look like it was a stunt. And there are people who think that looked "cool". It looked purposeful to me.
I feel like nobody is talking about is how he was more concerned about his shoes and a photo op to look around & see if anyone else was hurt. It didn’t even occur to him to think about anyone besides himself. He wasn’t worried about his audience, his staff, nobody else but himself. Nasty work.
I'm not so sure about your statement. WIth respect. The man was just tackled, knocked out of his shoes, perhaps didn't want to get his feet stepped on by the ss, or simply wanted to be able to run faster, as we all do with our shoes on. Also, I factor in shock. Raising his fist in the air, to me, shows that he was mad as a hornet that this just happened. I may be naive. But i also have no political affiliation.
@@jeanjennings5712 You sound VERY naive. Think about it. What would YOU do in that situation? Stop, drop and scram or leave yourself open just for a photo op? He didn’t look like he was in much of a hurry and I doubt that his slippery church shoes will give him any traction. If he was in such a hurry, he wouldn’t be saying “wait, wait!” (Who does that at a mass shooting) and he certainly wouldn’t be stopping to pump his fist. Would you? I would be worried about getting shot, number one and then worried about any of my staff or supporters getting hurt. Wouldn’t you? Think about it. He’s not a regular person though. He’s a malignant narcissist and sociopath. He can’t feel concern for anyone but himself. He can barely pretend to do it afterwards! He had to wait to see what the internet was saying before he remembered to call the family and express condolences. Meanwhile, he played golf that same day with not even a band aid on his ear.
“No class or group or party in Germany could escape its share of responsibility for the abandonment of the democratic Republic and the advent of Adolf Hitler. The cardinal error of the Germans who opposed Nazism was their failure to unite against it.” - William L. Shirer
Many of us have been returning to the lessons of the 1930's since this all started. Myself starting in 2016. It's of small comfort now to say that maybe of the warnings that our fellow citizens tried to spread back then turned out to be correct
Again I will say that a caller on C-SPAN may have hit on the motive. That being as the shooter identified as someone who was bullied saw Trump as the biggest bully could've encapsulated Trump as all his own bullies.
If the media are allowed to reveal the true motive it will send shockwaves through this election. It involves long-sealed files released in Florida on July 1st.
What Beau is saying is that by the time we actually know what happened you will have to search for it because the click bait media circus will have moved on.
What always amazes the 🤬 out of me during these events is the incessant discussion about ‘why’ and ‘who’s team did they play on’ instead of ‘how can we stop this’ from happening again.
Probably because much of the population has completely given up on preventing gun violence, and accepting it as the cost of 'freedom'. "Nothing Could Have Prevented This" Says Only Nation Where This Happens. -- _The Onion_
I mean, the attempt on Reagan was motivated by a delusion that it would impress Jodie Foster. We won't know until we know, and might not ever know for sure.
@@judithmccrea2601Reagan was Jodie Foster, I remember it well. That was in the 80’s. Manson was at least a decade earlier. Point is, the true motive is often something no one could’ve even imagined.
@@judithmccrea2601The attempts on Ford were by two Manson followers. Reagan was to impress Jodie Foster. Lennon was because he was a religious zealot mad about Lennon's statements about the Beatles being more popular than Jesus.
We may never know his motive. He may have had an argument with his father, whom the neighbors said had a bunch of Trump signs in the yard, and immaturely decided offing Trump would be a knockout punch to "win" the argument. I doubt Dad would ever mention it now.
I wondered if it was to get back at a possible T rump loving dad by someone with The mental health issues of having been brought up in a trump-loving environment for the past 6 to 8 years.
Speaking of intent as someone from the UK, I would be worried about JD Vance if I were you .... The thought of him being president if anything happens to Trump
I believe Trump was told who to pick, based on geography, age and Vance being an election denier in 2020.? He said he would not have certified the election results, like Pence did.
Beau, you remind me very much of the old school journalists I worked with back in the 80's when I first graduated from Kent State and went to work at a small daily paper in NC. This was back when Ethics in reporting was a thing, a time when editorial comments went on the editorial page. This was back when journalism was about factual information. It might have only been a small town paper, but we had credibility. We reported what happened, not what we thought might have happened. Often, stories came directly from police reports and city council minutes, and facts were attributed to these sources. All that seems to have gone out the window with the invention of the internet. It's good to know someone is out there willing to say, these are the facts, and this is my opinion, to differentiate between what's known and what's believed. Leeja Miller did a wonderful piece on the average person's ability to decipher information from the internet, 'media literacy." People trust you. Thanks for making it a little easier to get actual, true information.
The show would go on at the Democratic convention also. In the military the action does not stop. The closest stop and render aid. The rest move forward.
In the immediate aftermath of the shooting, I was getting numerous phone calls and text messages from friends and family looking to share the sparse information they had heard as well as their own personal theories. My response to each one was the same. I told them right off the bat that I had no interest in wild speculation. I shared my opinion that it would be days before anyone learned anything of substance and weeks or months before we had anything close to meaningful information about motive, responsibility or political effect. Then I went back to watching a movie.
I am curious as to what the wild speculation was then... Sadly, I stopped receiving wild political speculation months ago, when I had a friend telling me that Jack Smith was impartial to Obama because his wife donated $100.00 to Michelle Obama's Musical and should RECUSE himself... I mentioned that it was very mighty impressive mental gymnastics that he had... Since then, all of the crazy right-wing-nut conspiracy theories have stopped being delivered in my general direction...
When I was 20 I didn't have a defined political ideology yet. I was registered as Republican because my parents were. I think this was a bullied kid acting out and making his mark on the world by attempting to take down the ultimate King Bully, the bully that is universally worshpped by all bullies.
As someone that is not from the USA, could you please explain what you mean by " I was registered as Republican". Did you mean regarded as, instead or do US citizens actually regester their political allegiance somehow/somewhere?
@@BrentonSmythesfieldsaye You register your party affiliation when you vote. In some states it allows you to vote in the primaries. You don't necessarily have to pick a side, I've been registered "Non-Partisan" for 20 years now, and your registered affiliation doesn't then dictate how you vote either.
We like simple explanations because they mean we don’t have to sit with the complexity of human choice. There may ultimately be no single grand motive at all, just a vague anger.
If he was bullied and from a small town, he could very well have targeted MAGA as a group. Likely those around him at school were MAGA as well. My point is it could be more personal than political.
This is going to sound weird, but what if the shooter had a dream, a really bad nightmare, about what it would be like under a second Trump presidency. Somehow I see echos of the novel by Stephen King "The Dead Zone" in what happened.
They care about being first to get the ratings and do not care whether it is true or not. If it is not true, no retraction will be seen widely, just a small blip to say they did it. smdh
Beau, the take that this is a dumb kid from a broken society making a horrible mistake is valid. Please stop deleting that comment. Edit: when I say the kid is “dumb” I mean in the way that all kids are in so many ways as they (we) find our way in the world.
Social media is the root of the evil. Encompassed by the lack morality and ethics in society. You have a whole part of the nation that thinks "woke" is to be sympathetic/empathic and so they want to be anti-sympathetic/empathic and support "strong men".
@@oldauntzibby4395 there are reports that he was bullied. There were also reports that he was a bit extreme in his "conservative views" contrary to what Beau is stating.
Not all Germans were Nazis. But that is of little comfort to the 6 million Jews who died, not to mention Russians, French, etc. Not being MAGA doesn't mean you aren't part of the problem and as responsible. It just means you are a bigger coward.
Once I heard about the rather extreme bullying, I was thinking SBC in the most spectacular fashion imaginable. I don't know what means US schools have to combat bullying, but if education system is grossly defunded? Yeah...
@@h.f.4095 Nah, they're just stating they're staying away from the sources that are known for being dramatized garbage, and thanking Beau for being a cut above them. Which is the same here, I *do* read other sources of news, but Beau has been pretty consistent in his quality. Even if often he doesn't predict what's going to come next.
Two interesting unconfirmed data points: 1. Guy had a Trump sign in his front yard. 2. Profile suggests a school shooter, but then a bigger target showed up.
I am seriously giving consideration that this is all a publicity stunt. It's just way too Hollywood for my tastes. Has anyone in the media spoken to the injured or the family of the deceased? It was just too convenient. I've heard rumors of "fake" SS agents at the event.
@@elmexicanoforlive No, actually, one parent is a registered Democrat and the other is a "Libertarian." The mother is the registered Dem and the father is the "Libertarian" who, surprise surprise, bought his son the gun.
Good morning. Most assassins turn out to be nuts. Reagan's assassin, Hinkley, wanted to get attention from Jodie Foster. John Lennon's assassin was angry he could understand the words of the songs but not what they meant.
That's an interesting take on the Jody Foster reference in Beau's previous video. Now you actually have me checking out the Catcher in the Rye reference. I can't let let it go anymore. Edit: turns out you've got that covered, both the murderers of Reagan (this was a failed attempt) and Lennon had the book in their posession, as well as the murderer of Rebecca Schaeffer.
latest reports strongly suggest some kind of trump affiliation, at least in the family ( trump, maga sign etc at the house).. there must be the suspicion he either opposed trump generally due to the damage he saw that has done to his family, or he may himself was supportive but felt betrayed... from an outside of the usa perspective its weird that no magamaniac at all seems to like wake up and snap...
There was notiable info is that he worked at an nursing home .. This may infact be it ..the why A colleague who worked with Crooks at the nursing home and who asked not to be named described him in an interview as “the sweetest guy.” Just this week, the colleague said, the two of them worked together to find an easier way for nursing home residents to open ranch dressing packets, an act the colleague said was indicative of how caring Crooks was. “These stupid ranch packets in the kitchen - no one can ever open them,” said the colleague, who also went to high school with Crooks. “Earlier this week he was helping me with a bunch of sick old ladies (to) put ranch on their salads.” Crooks, the colleague said, never expressed political views at work and wasn’t “a radical.” They added: “It’s hard seeing everything that’s going on online because he was a really, really good person that did a really bad thing, and I just wish I knew why.”
Yeah, a lot of those interviews with his "friends" and classmates read like fringe folx wanting a little fame.... I've seen 2 interviews where guys (look like the jocks of the school) are too happy to be in front of the camera to tell everyone how "he was bullied, because you know how kids are these days to a quiet kid like that" (and other sentiment). My kid (who was bullied for being queer and autistic) texted me the links to both with "no way to prove it, but if the shooter was bullied, I bet this kid was part of the bullying. Because mom, he's trying not to laugh, talking about it" Our country has a lot of healing to do....
I’ve felt from the start that he is just another twenty something male with a gun wanting his 15 minutes of fame. Now we are hearing that he was bullied and picked on.
The local news interviewed his neighbors and they said he and his family have had MAGA signs and flags all over their house for years. MeidasTouch just posted the video.
He even stood in as an unpaid actor for a BlackRock commercial a few years ago. With one of his school teachers. I'm sure a mild, totally unassuming fairly recent connection to the American version of WAGNER certainly couldn't weave some really interesting paths of conversation
@@bobbombar6711 I don't think so. This guy was bullied at school, probably because he was the loner who kept to himself. Some teacher made the class stand in separate areas of the room based on political affiliation. That, in and of itself, isn't good practice, as it exacerbates differences between students. In the case of this young man, it most likely led to further intensification of the bullying against him, as he was the only one to stand in the conservative corner. I've heard no details about his relationship with his parents, particularly his father, but I strongly suspect that things were far from ideal there also. His dad being a "gun nut" and strong GOP supporter, probably wanted his son to look and be more "manly". He may have had words with his son, that caused him to go over the edge, took one of his dad's rifles, and decided to go teach his dad a lesson about supporting the ruler of all bullies, instead of supporting his own son. Note: The latter is conjecture on my part. Yet, I would not be surprised if later on, further details may come out, that would support this scenario.
Assuming he truly was conservative, I’d guess he recognized that Trump is not actually conservative, but rather a conman and authoritarian, and he recognized the threat that Trump poses to the country and the world if reelected and perhaps he wanted to eliminate that threat. 🤷♂️
Anyone ever hear a journalist say "We don't know yet"? Rarely will a journalist risk their career by telling the truth if it's contrary to their employers wishes.
Journalism ended when they stopped reporting news and started reporting perspectives that want to be pushed. My thoughts are that this type of journalism became popular because people became too lazy and insecure/arrogant to think and have dialogue and instead wanted a "popular" opinion to be part of.
Only because the criminals in our government and media said so. Obviously they are going to say this democrat was a republican because he voted against Trump in the primary for Hailey. And sent money to act blue.
@@FinalMeep I'm afraid you have me there. I wanted to choose my words carefully, so I googled "speculative journalism" and saw a bunch of links to articles that at least implied that it's actually a respectable practice, but personally I have no use for it.
Beau, one of my favorite things is when you say, "we'll just have to wait and see." I love how you don't jump the gun (pun intended) on stories like this. It's so refreshing in a world of insane and dramatic speculation.
The most levelheaded take on this topic I have heard thus far anywhere on any social media platform!! And of course, this take is coming from my favorite content creator anywhere on any social media platform, Beau Of The Fifth Column!! Well said, Beau!!!
The folks over at It Could Happen Here podcast said on their most recent episode that they think the shooter had more in common with school shooters or the man who shot John Lennon than a political assassin
Thank you Beau for always keeping it real. You’ve become my touchstone for the “real” take on any news I hear- And if you’re not mentioning something, I usually assume it’s something I don’t need to be worrying about! Thanks for that gift 💝
I just wanted to thank you for your calm and logical way of looking at and explaining things. I've realized I tend to look to you when political things get out of hand and I truly appreciate your wisdom.
It is hard to know what someone's deepest thoughts are . I work in Social services so many people struggle internally but function ....they blur into the crowd and just go on .....until something clicks ....something changes. Like you said .....we just don't know and only speculate
There were mega flag, signs and Trump sign where he lived. I Bet his room had all the far right memorabilia one could think of. 💙Vote Blue up and down the ballot.
I'd call that motivation "Betrayal". He finally felt like part of a community, but the the community was bulliesRus. The intent was probably to ease his own feelings of betrayal.
This world just gets stranger with each passing day. Thanks Beau for being honest and saying, we don’t know without jumping on some wild conspiracy bandwagon. I also trust Heather Cox Richardson , an historian. I subscribe to her newsletter. We need more voices of reason.
Saw this posted earlier, "Should Americans be traumatized by the happenings at the Trump rally, or should Americans just pretend it was an elementary school and get over it?" Asking for a Nation tired of double standards! VOTE BLUE up and down the ballot in Nov to save our country from Project 2025 (the republican blueprint) and auto cracy!!🇺🇸💙
🎯
Wow.
Nailed it.
Respect for not just copy and pasting and acting like it was your own original thought 👏🏽
We will vote blue🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊
Remember John Lennon was shot by someone who just wanted to be famous.
Bite your tongue! Do NOT compare Trump to Lennon!
As was Reagan (to impress Jodi Foster)
@@ichirofakename Maybe Trump to George Wallace ?
Didn't the dude also get mad Lennon said the Beatles were more popular than Jesus? I know he was obsessed with catcher in the rye or something, but also recall something about the Jesus thing
Mark David Chapman is a religious nut who thought he was Holden Caulfield. It had nothing to do with wanting to be famous.
You’re thinking of John Hinckley Jr.
No one wants to talk about how MAGA is:
1. Heavily armed
2. Unwilling to compromise
3. Unable to agree, even with other conservatives
It was only a matter of time.
Yeah like this is exactly what the second amendment is supposed to be for in their mythology
@@lucy101 Remember Trump's suggested "second amendment solution" to Hillary and/or her possible appointed judges? (Wilmington NC, Aug 2016)
@@lucy101 Remember Qanon? More Trump/Epstein links got leaked a few days before the shooting. Maybe this shooting had nothing to do with it but, hardcore Qanon must know about Trump by now.
MAGA really shouldn't have a monopoly on arms. I wish more on the left understood how important that is.
L@@L35L3Ythey don't they just make the bigger deal about it
Ultimately it does not matter which side did it. Trump and the GOP will frame it the same way regardless.
Took J.D. Vance 20 minutes to blame (D) talk about fascist dt as directly responsible. Oh, whoops! Maybe that got him the VP spot, though.
Nope, the media should not allow the radical right lunatics to change the narrative.
They already are!
Irrelevant. What matters are undecided
@@albertoandrade9807 And what do you think matters to undecided? How much obliviousness, ignorance, and apathy does one have to have to be truly undecided about Donald Trump in 2024? The reason Republicans use the tactics they do in an environment where undecided people determine election outcomes is because those tactics work for them. The appropriate assumption is that Republicans have identified what a meaningful number of undecided people want to hear and are saying it.
When Trump told the Secret Service to back off long enough for him to get a photo op, and shook his fist and yelled to his followers "Fight! Fight! Fight!", HE made it political.
Good observation
Trump did a few fist pumps from the stage to the SUV. Troubling to say the least.
TRUMP 2024
@@magnubeido8832 You people are WAY too far gone
Makes me wonder about j6 trump and his interaction with the USSS
No one has divided this country more than this man. 😢
Are you talking about Trump? If so, I agree.
It didn't take much... it's like 2 different nations trying to share the same land.
And calling him hitler for 9 years had zero effect?
@@RyanRoberson-gc1op Might want to think about why people do that.
@@RyanRoberson-gc1opif the shoe fits
Dear friends in the US, please do not elect T----. For the love of the planet, please do not.
I keep trying to talk people out of it. It doesn't matter what just happened, he's bad for our country. That stupid fist thing just made it look like it was a stunt. And there are people who think that looked "cool". It looked purposeful to me.
Trying oh-so-hard to prevent it...
We are trying so freaking hard, and some of us are in literal tears.
I apologies up font here, but at this juncture, yes....Im voting for Trump.
@@shotgrouptexas7107 So which is it? you're an idiot or just an asshole?
I feel like nobody is talking about is how he was more concerned about his shoes and a photo op to look around & see if anyone else was hurt.
It didn’t even occur to him to think about anyone besides himself.
He wasn’t worried about his audience, his staff, nobody else but himself.
Nasty work.
I'm not so sure about your statement. WIth respect. The man was just tackled, knocked out of his shoes, perhaps didn't want to get his feet stepped on by the ss, or simply wanted to be able to run faster, as we all do with our shoes on. Also, I factor in shock. Raising his fist in the air, to me, shows that he was mad as a hornet that this just happened. I may be naive. But i also have no political affiliation.
Trump has repeatedly shown throughout his whole career before and after becoming president that he really only cares about himself and only himself
@@jeanjennings5712 You sound VERY naive. Think about it. What would YOU do in that situation? Stop, drop and scram or leave yourself open just for a photo op?
He didn’t look like he was in much of a hurry and I doubt that his slippery church shoes will give him any traction. If he was in such a hurry, he wouldn’t be saying “wait, wait!” (Who does that at a mass shooting) and he certainly wouldn’t be stopping to pump his fist. Would you?
I would be worried about getting shot, number one and then worried about any of my staff or supporters getting hurt. Wouldn’t you?
Think about it.
He’s not a regular person though. He’s a malignant narcissist and sociopath.
He can’t feel concern for anyone but himself. He can barely pretend to do it afterwards!
He had to wait to see what the internet was saying before he remembered to call the family and express condolences.
Meanwhile, he played golf that same day with not even a band aid on his ear.
“No class or group or party in Germany could escape its share of responsibility for the abandonment of the democratic Republic and the advent of Adolf Hitler. The cardinal error of the Germans who opposed Nazism was their failure to unite against it.”
- William L. Shirer
“And then they came for me…..”
Many of us have been returning to the lessons of the 1930's since this all started. Myself starting in 2016.
It's of small comfort now to say that maybe of the warnings that our fellow citizens tried to spread back then turned out to be correct
The absolute truth.
the responsibility goes back to 1980 and the policies that created the conditions that led to trump .. reagan + bush 1 & 2 = 20 years of unraveling ..
If people understood economics beyond paying taxes.. that would help..
A motive may never surface, but that won't stop various entities from filling the void with their own nonsense.
keep wondering if he had a run in with Corey Comperatore and he was the tarGet
Something tells me,we might know what really happened sooner than later.Fingers crossed.
How many eggs need to break to make a plastic omelette?
Yeah, that's their bread and butter 🤮
@@bigdee-d2s Just like everything that involute Trump.
Again I will say that a caller on C-SPAN may have hit on the motive. That being as the shooter identified as someone who was bullied saw Trump as the biggest bully could've encapsulated Trump as all his own bullies.
I thought that, too. Also, I wondered about the LGBTQ bullying by the right…
Sounds like a stretch to me. How about we wait for the facts instead of theories?
Yessssss
If the media are allowed to reveal the true motive it will send shockwaves through this election. It involves long-sealed files released in Florida on July 1st.
It was the Epstein revelations. Only twelve days after release this happens.
There's a whole segment of the population that isnt even buying that this is real.
WWE. /s
@@shawnr771 What does that even mean?
@@boogeywoogey8605 World Wrestling.
Its all fake.
TFG was part on that for a while.
It is all fake.
"Don't be afraid to say you don't know"
-Morgan Freeman, The Sum of All Fears
Thanks for being the voice of reason amidst all the sensationalism.
Calm is irrational in the midst of a fight or flight scenario
@@TheHauntedKiwiwe aren't in a fight or flight scenario
@@LordScrambles1 Oh great, one of these rule of law conspiracy theorists. Still think this is a democracy or are you waking up?
I would settle for some kind of object permanence... the way our brain copes with our environment is to make up a fantasy spelled out by our own ego..
This is why this channel is so important.
What Beau is saying is that by the time we actually know what happened you will have to search for it because the click bait media circus will have moved on.
And you will never be able to convince those who chose a motive early on that it was something else.
What always amazes the 🤬 out of me during these events is the incessant discussion about ‘why’ and ‘who’s team did they play on’ instead of ‘how can we stop this’ from happening again.
Probably because much of the population has completely given up on preventing gun violence, and accepting it as the cost of 'freedom'.
"Nothing Could Have Prevented This" Says Only Nation Where This Happens.
-- _The Onion_
Question? Why aren't we talking about gun violence and gun control. Oh, I forgot. Just thoughts and prayers
Too soon, always too soon.
Weird part is that neither party seems to be going there - I really thought the left would at least mention it.
Because people are responsible not guns.
@@user-qx2tk4sq9bit’s peoples fault not heroin. Legalize?
@@klr1523 Tho briefly, Biden did.
Beau is a calm, reassuring voice who doesnt take sides and gives accurate information.
Exactly why I trust him.
the reason that I tune in from the UK is for this
Hmm... after listening to Vance not too sure there are so many of those left in America
Oh, he takes sides, but he's not wrong.
@@LordScrambles1 he's providing info and his understanding of them.
I mean, the attempt on Reagan was motivated by a delusion that it would impress Jodie Foster. We won't know until we know, and might not ever know for sure.
No. Lennon was Jodie Foster. Reagan was the Manson lovers.
@@judithmccrea2601Reagan was Jodie Foster, I remember it well. That was in the 80’s. Manson was at least a decade earlier. Point is, the true motive is often something no one could’ve even imagined.
@@judithmccrea2601The attempts on Ford were by two Manson followers. Reagan was to impress Jodie Foster. Lennon was because he was a religious zealot mad about Lennon's statements about the Beatles being more popular than Jesus.
@@judithmccrea2601 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attempted_assassination_of_Ronald_Reagan
@@TBrincefield Lennon's killer also identified with Holden from Catcher in the Rye and though Lennon had sold out, he was a phony
We may never know his motive. He may have had an argument with his father, whom the neighbors said had a bunch of Trump signs in the yard, and immaturely decided offing Trump would be a knockout punch to "win" the argument. I doubt Dad would ever mention it now.
I wondered if it was to get back at a possible T rump loving dad by someone with The mental health issues of having been brought up in a trump-loving environment for the past 6 to 8 years.
Always nice to see Beau's take on events. As a retired engineer anytime someone says we need to wait for the facts to come out, I approve.
Speaking of intent as someone from the UK, I would be worried about JD Vance if I were you ....
The thought of him being president if anything happens to Trump
genuinely more dangerous
Agreed
So it is important that Trump doesn't get in
He's a bad hombre
I believe Trump was told who to pick, based on geography, age and Vance being an election denier in 2020.? He said he would not have certified the election results, like Pence did.
Among the new information is that the $15 donation to Act Blue was not the shooter but from an older person with the same name!
People love pretending a first and last name are unique and there's no sharing😂
Same address though.
@@adorabell4253no, the older man is from Pittsburg. Do try to keep up ok?
@@michaeleasterwood6558 no, I mean the donation was from the same address last I heard.
Thats been debunked. He did indeed donate
Beau, you remind me very much of the old school journalists I worked with back in the 80's when I first graduated from Kent State and went to work at a small daily paper in NC. This was back when Ethics in reporting was a thing, a time when editorial comments went on the editorial page. This was back when journalism was about factual information. It might have only been a small town paper, but we had credibility. We reported what happened, not what we thought might have happened. Often, stories came directly from police reports and city council minutes, and facts were attributed to these sources.
All that seems to have gone out the window with the invention of the internet. It's good to know someone is out there willing to say, these are the facts, and this is my opinion, to differentiate between what's known and what's believed. Leeja Miller did a wonderful piece on the average person's ability to decipher information from the internet, 'media literacy." People trust you. Thanks for making it a little easier to get actual, true information.
Leeja Miller rocks! I will never, ever tire of hearing her mention "Ronald fucking Reagan" 🤣 Big recommend to anyone who doesn't know her!
@@FinalMeep she is the bomb, smart, cute, fun and she knows her stuff.
@@FinalMeep Did you watch her Media Literacy video?
Lives were lost. Family's mourn. But you know...without a moment of silence for their lost supporters, the show must go on for the GOP convention.
Where's the thoughts and prayers at the convention? 🙏💭☁️💨
The show would go on at the Democratic convention also.
In the military the action does not stop.
The closest stop and render aid. The rest move forward.
I applaud you once again for giving us facts & not spin relevant to new information & intent...Bravo Beau !!!
Good morning Donald! We're here for truth, justice and the American way.
@@victoriajohnson-parratt6975 Good morning Victoria!!!!
Good afternoon now.
@@victoriajohnson-parratt6975Howdy.
Hope your day is going well.
@@shawnr771 Howdy Shawn ! Hoping you're having an even better day 👋🤠😎🌻☀...
In the immediate aftermath of the shooting, I was getting numerous phone calls and text messages from friends and family looking to share the sparse information they had heard as well as their own personal theories. My response to each one was the same. I told them right off the bat that I had no interest in wild speculation. I shared my opinion that it would be days before anyone learned anything of substance and weeks or months before we had anything close to meaningful information about motive, responsibility or political effect. Then I went back to watching a movie.
I am curious as to what the wild speculation was then... Sadly, I stopped receiving wild political speculation months ago, when I had a friend telling me that Jack Smith was impartial to Obama because his wife donated $100.00 to Michelle Obama's Musical and should RECUSE himself... I mentioned that it was very mighty impressive mental gymnastics that he had... Since then, all of the crazy right-wing-nut conspiracy theories have stopped being delivered in my general direction...
Hope you had some 🍿?
When I was 20 I didn't have a defined political ideology yet. I was registered as Republican because my parents were. I think this was a bullied kid acting out and making his mark on the world by attempting to take down the ultimate King Bully, the bully that is universally worshpped by all bullies.
That is a good observation
I was twenty when Reagan won. And I wondered how any right minded person could vote for him.
Stupid reason to register as a republican, because your parents were,😂😂😂😂😂😂
As someone that is not from the USA, could you please explain what you mean by " I was registered as Republican". Did you mean regarded as, instead or do US citizens actually regester their political allegiance somehow/somewhere?
@@BrentonSmythesfieldsaye You register your party affiliation when you vote. In some states it allows you to vote in the primaries. You don't necessarily have to pick a side, I've been registered "Non-Partisan" for 20 years now, and your registered affiliation doesn't then dictate how you vote either.
We like simple explanations because they mean we don’t have to sit with the complexity of human choice. There may ultimately be no single grand motive at all, just a vague anger.
Or despair
Everyone is asking these unimportant questions and not addressing the big one: WAS HE A TIME TRAVELER FROM THE FUTURE? 😉
If he was bullied and from a small town, he could very well have targeted MAGA as a group. Likely those around him at school were MAGA as well. My point is it could be more personal than political.
@@LaundryFaerie Just the question a time traveler from the future would post to troll the poor, innocent suckers of the present.
This is going to sound weird, but what if the shooter had a dream, a really bad nightmare, about what it would be like under a second Trump presidency. Somehow I see echos of the novel by Stephen King "The Dead Zone" in what happened.
Republican's are diverse. They pick a guy wearing eyeliner as VP.
He's so pretty.
Guyliner.
Also have you ever seen a man grow a beard and somehow it makes him look less manly?
Y-you mean they have gone WOKE?! :clutches pearls:
Maybe he picked Vance cause he knew he was good at doing his make up. Could give him a few pointers
I don't know why this pissed me off. 😂
Let the investigation take its course. We are so caught up on wanting information right away instead of getting to the truth first
They care about being first to get the ratings and do not care whether it is true or not. If it is not true, no retraction will be seen widely, just a small blip to say they did it. smdh
The question I want answered is how did he know the roof, he was on, was not protected by the Secret Service, or any other law enforcement agency.
The three words no one wants to hear: "We don't know."
In fact, I DO want to hear “I don’t know” if that is an accurate statement. Speculation has limited use without evidence. Truth>no info>bad info.
This was Trumps own people. Violent rhetoric by Trump worked on one of his own to act.
Agreed. See J6 Project 2025 for further studies.
Political derangement swings both ways... it is just a game.. even kids can play... I mean all of it.. the whole enchilada..
Beau, the take that this is a dumb kid from a broken society making a horrible mistake is valid. Please stop deleting that comment.
Edit: when I say the kid is “dumb” I mean in the way that all kids are in so many ways as they (we) find our way in the world.
@chrisoffersen Dude it's almost certainly CZcams automod.
Evidently his own extremists don't like his "moderation". Go figure.
Excellent job of putting this in perspective. We don’t know and should ignore all the pundits who are trying to spin it.
The fact that this young man was bullied in school points to one very relevant issue - the state of civility in our society.
Social media is the root of the evil. Encompassed by the lack morality and ethics in society. You have a whole part of the nation that thinks "woke" is to be sympathetic/empathic and so they want to be anti-sympathetic/empathic and support "strong men".
Totally agree..
Who is saying he was bullied? All I've seen/heard is that he was ostracized for not fitting in, which can mean being ignored, not necessarily bullied.
@@oldauntzibby4395 there are reports that he was bullied. There were also reports that he was a bit extreme in his "conservative views" contrary to what Beau is stating.
@@ICU1337Just because there are reports doesn’t mean they’re accurate.
Not all Republicans are Trump fans.
And not all non-fans are assassins.
I gotta vote joe 2nd time
I agree with you but the whole world is waiting for the proof, good luck 🤞
Not all Germans were Nazis. But that is of little comfort to the 6 million Jews who died, not to mention Russians, French, etc. Not being MAGA doesn't mean you aren't part of the problem and as responsible. It just means you are a bigger coward.
That does not matter if most still are...
Once I heard about the rather extreme bullying, I was thinking SBC in the most spectacular fashion imaginable.
I don't know what means US schools have to combat bullying, but if education system is grossly defunded? Yeah...
Mr orange was more concerned with his shoes than his agents
Our brains prefer an incorrect yet complete narrative to an incomplete evidence based one. I am grateful to you and your team for doing the work!
I have been staying away from tv news. Beau gets to the heart of current affairs without hysteria or dramatics. Thank you, Beau.
so basically you believe everything Beau tells you. No critical thinking on your part?
@@h.f.4095 Nah, they're just stating they're staying away from the sources that are known for being dramatized garbage, and thanking Beau for being a cut above them. Which is the same here, I *do* read other sources of news, but Beau has been pretty consistent in his quality. Even if often he doesn't predict what's going to come next.
@@h.f.4095
Not what he said.
Being conservative or a registered republican is sufficiently extreme in my eyes. Their presidential candidate supports project 2025.
Tim Scott: can I drop the "I have a girlfriend" routine now Massa?
Two interesting unconfirmed data points:
1. Guy had a Trump sign in his front yard.
2. Profile suggests a school shooter, but then a bigger target showed up.
One of his parents registers as Republican, doubt he would he able to override his parents decisions on what to put on the lawn.
School shooter profile? could hsve been 'suidice by cop' in that case.
I am seriously giving consideration that this is all a publicity stunt. It's just way too Hollywood for my tastes. Has anyone in the media spoken to the injured or the family of the deceased? It was just too convenient. I've heard rumors of "fake" SS agents at the event.
@@elmexicanoforlive Especially seeing that he registered as one - why would he want to?
@@elmexicanoforlive No, actually, one parent is a registered Democrat and the other is a "Libertarian." The mother is the registered Dem and the father is the "Libertarian" who, surprise surprise, bought his son the gun.
Good morning. Most assassins turn out to be nuts. Reagan's assassin, Hinkley, wanted to get attention from Jodie Foster. John Lennon's assassin was angry he could understand the words of the songs but not what they meant.
These are exactly the examples that sprang to my mind as well. Their stated 'reasons' made no damned sense to anyone but themselves.
That's an interesting take on the Jody Foster reference in Beau's previous video.
Now you actually have me checking out the Catcher in the Rye reference. I can't let let it go anymore.
Edit: turns out you've got that covered, both the murderers of Reagan (this was a failed attempt) and Lennon had the book in their posession, as well as the murderer of Rebecca Schaeffer.
Lindsay Ellis highlighted this in her recent video on Yoko Ono and the Beatles as well.
Exactly
@@jatsko3113 She also pointed out that fame/attention often seems to have something to do with it.
My current theory is that he was just depressed, saw an opportunity and wanted to go out with a bang.
Aka John Lennon's killer.
latest reports strongly suggest some kind of trump affiliation, at least in the family ( trump, maga sign etc at the house).. there must be the suspicion he either opposed trump generally due to the damage he saw that has done to his family, or he may himself was supportive but felt betrayed... from an outside of the usa perspective its weird that no magamaniac at all seems to like wake up and snap...
Unfortunately that's probably the simple root cause. 💔
@@Liquidsback I thought Lennon's assailant was in it for the fame? Hence why noone should remember his name... It's exactly what he wanted.
There was notiable info is that he worked at an nursing home ..
This may infact be it ..the why
A colleague who worked with Crooks at the nursing home and who asked not to be named described him in an interview as “the sweetest guy.” Just this week, the colleague said, the two of them worked together to find an easier way for nursing home residents to open ranch dressing packets, an act the colleague said was indicative of how caring Crooks was.
“These stupid ranch packets in the kitchen - no one can ever open them,” said the colleague, who also went to high school with Crooks. “Earlier this week he was helping me with a bunch of sick old ladies (to) put ranch on their salads.”
Crooks, the colleague said, never expressed political views at work and wasn’t “a radical.” They added: “It’s hard seeing everything that’s going on online because he was a really, really good person that did a really bad thing, and I just wish I knew why.”
The guy who called him conservative had social studies with him, I'll take that over people who just saw him around school.
Yeah, a lot of those interviews with his "friends" and classmates read like fringe folx wanting a little fame....
I've seen 2 interviews where guys (look like the jocks of the school) are too happy to be in front of the camera to tell everyone how "he was bullied, because you know how kids are these days to a quiet kid like that" (and other sentiment).
My kid (who was bullied for being queer and autistic) texted me the links to both with "no way to prove it, but if the shooter was bullied, I bet this kid was part of the bullying. Because mom, he's trying not to laugh, talking about it"
Our country has a lot of healing to do....
Good to hear a thoughtful piece on a very confused situation where there is insufficient data.
I’ve felt from the start that he is just another twenty something male with a gun wanting his 15 minutes of fame. Now we are hearing that he was bullied and picked on.
Just another member of our well regulated militia
The local news interviewed his neighbors and they said he and his family have had MAGA signs and flags all over their house for years. MeidasTouch just posted the video.
republican leaning one yeah
Incel maybe?
He even stood in as an unpaid actor for a BlackRock commercial a few years ago. With one of his school teachers. I'm sure a mild, totally unassuming fairly recent connection to the American version of WAGNER certainly couldn't weave some really interesting paths of conversation
Sitting here waiting to find out that The Heritage Foundation is behind this. Really hope I’m not disappointed…
I always appreciate you level headedness.
"Get comfortable with uncertainty."
I have been sharing these words with people at work.
And I just got and understood why he's wearing a Tom & Jerry t-shirt cuz it's all currently a cat-and-mouse chase of an investigation
People really need to consider the possibility that this was suicide by cop rather than being politically motivated.
I was thinking the same thing.
Or if you are really cyinical a grade d p.r. stunt with lives as pawns . Looking outside the box / at who benifits the most.@BlackDoveNYC
That still leaves open the question about his motive for such a suicide, with associated theories being floated.
@AirCicilia fame/infamy or being double crossed take your pick .
@@bobbombar6711 I don't think so. This guy was bullied at school, probably because he was the loner who kept to himself. Some teacher made the class stand in separate areas of the room based on political affiliation. That, in and of itself, isn't good practice, as it exacerbates differences between students. In the case of this young man, it most likely led to further intensification of the bullying against him, as he was the only one to stand in the conservative corner.
I've heard no details about his relationship with his parents, particularly his father, but I strongly suspect that things were far from ideal there also. His dad being a "gun nut" and strong GOP supporter, probably wanted his son to look and be more "manly".
He may have had words with his son, that caused him to go over the edge, took one of his dad's rifles, and decided to go teach his dad a lesson about supporting the ruler of all bullies, instead of supporting his own son.
Note: The latter is conjecture on my part. Yet, I would not be surprised if later on, further details may come out, that would support this scenario.
Thanks, Beau, for dropping this vid.
Assuming he truly was conservative, I’d guess he recognized that Trump is not actually conservative, but rather a conman and authoritarian, and he recognized the threat that Trump poses to the country and the world if reelected and perhaps he wanted to eliminate that threat. 🤷♂️
The information has slowed, but hopefully it has become more accurate too. There are just too many bad actors out there trying to influence us all.
Anyone ever hear a journalist say "We don't know yet"? Rarely will a journalist risk their career by telling the truth if it's contrary to their employers wishes.
Journalism ended when they stopped reporting news and started reporting perspectives that want to be pushed. My thoughts are that this type of journalism became popular because people became too lazy and insecure/arrogant to think and have dialogue and instead wanted a "popular" opinion to be part of.
Beau, you are a sane voice in the midst of all the crazies. Thankful for you and your thoughts. 🇨🇦
You can be DAMN sure if he were a lefty this would be out already.
The speculation to real facts ratio in this case is running about 99 to 1 right now. I am going to ignore all of it for several days at least.
I am just going to listen to Beau.
The rest of them dont know the difference between chicken chyt and rooster chyt.
Your sober thoughts are what some people need to hear.
Thank you, Beau, for sticking to the facts and waiting for developments.
There was a time when the MAGA cult would have been considered extreme.
I'd bet my entire dollar that many plain old citizens do think they are extreme.
Like right now?
Only because the criminals in our government and media said so. Obviously they are going to say this democrat was a republican because he voted against Trump in the primary for Hailey. And sent money to act blue.
@@cindytrippI'll bet that the majority are maga Americans and do not think the majority are extremists. Only gullible democrats do that.
@@cindytripp And very many non-Americans think that they are far-right extremists. It's the Overton Window at work.
Thank you Beau. This is one case where speculative reporting is doing more harm than good.
Genuinely curious: is the opposite ever true?
@@FinalMeep I'm afraid you have me there. I wanted to choose my words carefully, so I googled "speculative journalism" and saw a bunch of links to articles that at least implied that it's actually a respectable practice, but personally I have no use for it.
@@Meridian83West Guessing is less harmful when the subject is less...volatile.
Tell me, as a Irishman, was 1776 a waste of time and effort if you get a new King answerable only to God,
At least the British monarch recognizes the (unwritten) Constitution.
Beau, one of my favorite things is when you say, "we'll just have to wait and see." I love how you don't jump the gun (pun intended) on stories like this. It's so refreshing in a world of insane and dramatic speculation.
The most levelheaded take on this topic I have heard thus far anywhere on any social media platform!! And of course, this take is coming from my favorite content creator anywhere on any social media platform, Beau Of The Fifth Column!! Well said, Beau!!!
The folks over at It Could Happen Here podcast said on their most recent episode that they think the shooter had more in common with school shooters or the man who shot John Lennon than a political assassin
Thank you Beau for always keeping it real. You’ve become my touchstone for the “real” take on any news I hear- And if you’re not mentioning something, I usually assume it’s something I don’t need to be worrying about! Thanks for that gift 💝
It is so important to have you a a voice of reason in these kinds of times.
Thank you Beau 🙏
Given the candidates ages, health issues and the legal circumstances of one candidate, we are basically voting for Harris or Vance
I am voting for President Biden
@@michaeleasterwood6558 They're saying that you need to consider the VP since they may finish the term.
Anybody who doesn't understand that shouldn't be allowed to vote!
I'VE always wondered who "they" are and just where "they" get their info.@@ariaflame-au
*BE* the light, friends.
✌🏼🤍✨️
Yes! Being kind to others helps them be kind too. We change the world whenever we do good!
BE, DO. Have. I AM.
I agree. Change the world, one kind act at a time. but remember, as David Feldman says, on his yt channel, 'Stay strong, protect the weak '. right on.
If we aren't the light, there's only darkness.
@@victoriajohnson-parratt6975 There IS only darkness. You can't fantasize about converting evil to good. It can't be good.
I just wanted to thank you for your calm and logical way of looking at and explaining things. I've realized I tend to look to you when political things get out of hand and I truly appreciate your wisdom.
Thanks Beau.
Ive been only casually watching the news about the shooter and his motive.
Waiting for the investigation to share its findings
It is hard to know what someone's deepest thoughts are . I work in Social services so many people struggle internally but function ....they blur into the crowd and just go on .....until something clicks ....something changes. Like you said .....we just don't know and only speculate
It is very difficult to accept a non-political motive in an attack on one of the most prominent political figures in the country.
Thank you Beau
Thank you for a level headed assessment of the situation.
There were mega flag, signs and Trump sign where he lived. I Bet his room had all the far right memorabilia one could think of. 💙Vote Blue up and down the ballot.
Good morning Beau and internet folks.
Good morning Mark. Have a great day!
Thanks much Beau! Appreciate your vigilance. Namaste.
Thank you for sharing these updates with us!
Good morning to all of Beau's peeps.
The neighbor said that there were MAGA signs in the yard up until recently.
Unlikely a 20yo would put those up. Maybe his parents were big fans, and he hated his parents.
I'd call that motivation "Betrayal". He finally felt like part of a community, but the the community was bulliesRus. The intent was probably to ease his own feelings of betrayal.
I’m wondering if the signs went down when the pedo stuff was circulating? Speculation but he could just be a disillusioned repub.
@@cosmic_jon Isn't that a big assumption, that a 20yo wouldn't put out signs? It is a good guess, but that is all you did.
@@anothermike4825 when we know big names can pay for silence, guessing is as good as the public gets.
Thanks Beau
Commenting because i wanna see more of you in my feed you can ignore this. Thanks foe your work mate
Lets go where the "Facts" lead us. Truth is the Goal.
Good morning Beau peeps 🌻
This world just gets stranger with each passing day. Thanks Beau for being honest and saying, we don’t know without jumping on some wild conspiracy bandwagon. I also trust Heather Cox Richardson , an historian. I subscribe to her newsletter. We need more voices of reason.
Thanks Beau❤
I've said more than once "calm down, we still haven't ruled out that he wasn't just trying to impress Jodie Foster".
Maybe you can be a Republican and be conservative and still hate trump. Maybe you see that he has doomed the Republican party forever.
Thank you, Beau, for being you.
Thanks, Beau, for being a Voice of Reason among the Chaos.
If you thought Trump was unfit before the attempt then keep on thinking the same. This doesn't change things one bit.
The way he’s being idolized right now makes me sick to my stomach.
I wasn’t aware that was happening… that is truly disturbing
Who is idolizing him?
Definitely take a news break. Take care of yourself
I haven't seen it, not that I was looking. I could see pitying him perhaps.
@@annejohnson5875 Maga folk, they think he is an orange god
Beau, like my mom used to always say "Take everything with a grain of salt". So true.
Yep. Cheers from the Pacific West Coast of Canada.