Aliexpress vs Best Buy Gaming PC Pre-Built Showdown
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- čas přidán 15. 06. 2024
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I went and bought a Best Buy gaming pre-built and locked it in a room with the Aliexpress pre-built.
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I don’t understand why more reviewers aren’t using the Dawid scoring method, it’s obviously superior in every way!
The scoring + editing at 4:04 had me wheezing
Sus!
I think I should patent it.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff yeah you should sell it as a commission
"it looks like the kind of PC a librarian has to kick to turn on" is an AMAZING metric for reviews
The fact that the ASUS system was $1000 is actually mind blowing. Those are some truly abysmal specs for that much money.
For 1000$ I can build a system with 3060 in it
The fact that is was in sale from 1400 is hilarious
@@jersen5085 For $1000 dollars you can build a system with something way better than a 3060 in
Do they think they’re Apple?
dawid single handedly keeping the prebuild pc space profitable for the OEM's again, so its just dawid
I really hope I’m the only one buying them. 😂
😅
@@DawidDoesTechStuff I what cheap/good GPU you recommend I know there RX580 but should I go for RX6600 ? Thks
@@djcvmusic1 go for the rx 6600 is alot stronger then the rx 580 the rx 6600 is like a rtx 3060 and the rx 580 is like a gtx 1060 6gb
@@DawidDoesTechStuffwhat do you do with the prebuilds after?
Normally you hold the RGB button down for around 3 seconds to switch between case controlled and mobo controlled.
Exactly. Standard for all the argb sync capable devices/cases/hubs etc.
How are you going to motherboard control molex fans (unless they have a seperate rgb connector and i missed it)
Really? I need to try that.
@@commander3494 Some cases come with the controller, some don't. My case came with a controller and works like that. My desk is plugged into my mobo and the RGB works the same too.
Nope nothing was connected
It always amazes me when a motherboard manufacturer makes a prebuilt and somehow give it a terrible bios. That was an actual choice they made when they manage to get it right on even the most budget motherboards they have.
Its more of an Intel's fault: Up to 11th gen only the highest/most expensive Z-series chipset allowed for overclocking (including memory) and definitely not on non-k CPU. 12th/13th gen CPUs and motherboards had some of the restrictions on memory overclocking (xmp profiles) lifted.
2933mhz is the limit of Intel B- and H- series motherboards
@@Vinterloft correct my cpu is i5 10th gen and b460m mobo
and im locked at 2667mhz when my kit is rated at 3200
had that bios on previous motherboard, ram change is very easy to find, feels like he didnt actually look.
Also, Dawid single handedly convinced me to not buy a pre-built and build my own PC for the first time. Been running on it for a few weeks already and am so happy I did.
Well done...once you have taken the plunge you will never look back .i built my first pc back in 2003 purely because i had no choice.A friend had sent me unwanted computer parts which i flew over in my suitcase when i moved to sweden....always nerve racking the first build but it gets easier over time.....nope.....still have every pc built from 2009 onwards....i truly regret getting rid of those that came before....i would love an old retro gaming rig but wont spend money on one now
I’d like to protest the power button test results. For me the ali button sounded waaay better, like a proper button, while asus sounded all cheap and plasticky.
Whaaa? No way, the ali button sounds cheap af while the best buy button sounds really thonky and good!
@@kadrix732 Power button on the Ali computer has satisfying travel though.
my thoughts exactly
@@kadrix732 the best buy button reminds me of those old mcdonald toys. buttons like those are wobbly and not satisfying
best buy button will most likely stuck and you would cry as you can't shut down the computer ever again as you can't press the power button to turn it on😂 (Speak from an experiences with similar type button that got stuck and must punch the PC to make it work)
To any advertisers reading, Dawid is genuinly the only Tech CZcamsr whose sponsor spots I don't skip. Keep paying him for his craziness!
Do the best buy clerks think you eat the PCs every time you enter and buy another one? 😅
They must think I’m a hungry boy.
😂
exquisite taste in food. (not in computers though)
i love the use of mouse clicks as a point of reference for the sound level. really puts the noise into perspective. great vid!
love that you click the mouse during fan sound comparison. Thanks for the frame of reference!
No way the Best Buy power button is better, I hate those ones lol.
It just shows how rough the one on the other case is. 😅
To be fair, as long as the power button works is al that matters. Unless of course you are one of those people like me with ADHD that sits there pushing the power button all day long.
-300 points for preinstall McAfee seems more than fair.
Definitely 😂
Almost suspiciously underweighted, given how I have been unable to completely root it out of the gaming laptop I purchased semi-recently, even with the specific removal tool downloaded from their site.
@@gregx5096 This is why I clean install Windows after every time I get a new computer. It makes sure unwanted bloatware like McAfee is actually gone.
its almost as if McAfee PAID BestBuy to include it o_0
@@murry001 I can't think of any reason why it would be included, unless they were getting paid.
Quality content mate, love the videos. Keep up the great work. Appreciate you getting me through my IT support role every day haha.
Fantastic video as always! Thank you for attaching Canadian prices, very few Canadian content creators actually bother..
It's not that they don't bother. It's that the CAD price is a conversion from USD and it fluctuates. While the USD price is actually MSRP (usually a 1:1 for euros too).
It just makes more sense when in 2 weeks there could be a 20~100CAD difference.
To be clear it's just never in our favor because we don't have a massive population/market.
thank you 100% for adding the mouse click to the noise level test. It's impossible to get a feel for what it really sounds like normally 👍👍
WHY, WHY, WHY, WHY, WHY McAfee is still a thing???
I thought they died off years ago, apparently not.
Intel owns mcafee so... it's not going away anytime soon
You would be suprised when u see all lenovo laptop comes with pre-installed mcafee
a friend of mine still uses avira
Why is any antivirus still a thing? Lmfao
Besides hilarious these videos are actually the winning argument for why you should build yourself
Just wanna say, Dawid you upload non-stop bangers. Like, every video is to do with something that I would do if I was able to and had the time or funds. Thanks!
Now do a third video where you build a PC with the same budget
This was just like the old days of watching top gear.. comparing things and in the end there is no result for a winner 😅 perfect keep it up
Looks like a compute a librarian has to kick in the morning to get started!!! lol so good. Love you Dawid!
I felt like I just watched a Doug DeMuro review but with PCs. Love these comparison vids!
the story twist in the end was very satisfying. thanks.
I can totally relate to the crappy BestBuy prebuilt. I have a similar model with an i5 9400f and a GTX 1660. The BIOS limitations are seriously crazy.
I ended up building my own system around a year after buying the prebuilt though the prebuilt was a steal back then. Cost around 600 USD just a month before the scalper apocalypse hit back in 2020.
I've been watching for a couple years now and finally gave in and ordered all the parts for a 1440 beast, 4070ti hope that was good choice and I7 13700k. This weekend I am going to try and update bios and install windows but so far it was fairly easy for first time pc builder after lots of studying that is.
I finally bought a gaming desktop and moved up from a 2018 msi apachevr that had a 1060 in it and an i7. I bought an ROG desktop with an i7, 3060 and 16gb of dual channel ram for around $1200 and there are some things I like and things that hurt me. The case is actually pretty great especially when I look at your channel. It has ventilation on the front, top and right with the left housing a panel of glass or whatever the material is. The dual channel is great and running that the 3200 it's rated at but the bios is basically the same as what was included in this one with little room to work with. The only bloat was myasus and armorycrate which were easy enough to get rid of. The huge issue I have is the power supply being 500 watts. I'm sure that's enough as it is 80 plus gold I believe but I really feel like I should upgrade that and I believe I actually can luckily though. I'm sure someone will say I paid way too much for it but I had circumstances where Best Buy wasn't the best buy but rather the only buy if I wanted to upgrade my laptop with no cpu cooler running at 90°c consistently. I was pleasantly surprised considering what I've seen you wade through.
when you have alot of RGB it gives gaming boost :)
E peen goes from 🍌 to 🍆
Rgb life's matter
Exactly! 😂
It's go-fast stripes, but for PCs
No, it's RAM. RAM gives a boost. Don't confuse RGB with RAM.
Also you can just download more RAM. Nobody actually downloads more RGB, that's a myth.
Here we go, the ultimate matchup! I was waiting for this.
I have a similar ASUS system (AT LEAST CASE WISE) but mine has a Nvidia RTX 3060 and a Ryzen 5700G with 16Gb of ram and paid $1300 US almost 2yrs ago. I have since upgraded my RAM to Corsair RGB 32GB 3600Mhz for CAD reasons and upgraded my CPU to a Ryzen 7 5700x ($199 on Amazon on sale a year ago) which was quite a boost that I did not expect probably because of the PCIE 4.0 support the 5700G only supports PCIE 3.0 so my GPU and SSD's are slightly faster now. I am also overclocking the 5700X for even more performance while still air-cooling with a BE-QUIET cooler.
As far a the BIOS goes mine has a ASUS B550 MB and does support XMP. The BIOS looked the same in the video so you may not be looking in the right spot.
As you stated I too am NOT a fan of the case here but it was a pre-built and these were the best specs I could get at that time when prices were INSANE!
Look at my boy throwing references to BMW M, good to hear you are a car guy
for the first time, im actually rooting for the ali-express pc before watching this video
-500 points for no ram options was waaay too generous
Would be fun to compare them both to a system you built yourself for the same price
They would both loose, badly.
@@atomicskull6405tbf, that is the point?
Dawid is the only video host where I don't skip the sponsors, because he keeps them funny. ("LinOOOOOOOOOde" 😂👍)
I have a pre built Asus Rog G20CE without a GC, and I bought my graphics card, a rtx 3070, and a upgrade with Corsair ram, and I love my system.
My dad installed McAffe voluntarily. I awarded him -300 points and removed him from the family.
RIP
Gonorrhea vs. Syphilis, can't wait!
I bought a cyberpower from best buy once. It had a 3050, 12600kf, 16gb of XPG ram, an EVGA 600 watt power supply, and a gigabyte B660 D3SH UD motherboard.
I paid 1150 for it, it was probably the better pre built PC deals i have ever seen. Came with a 120mm AIO CPU cooler too and a total of 4 RGB fans with a remote control for the RGB hub.
Best buy does have some really solid deals sometimes, just gotta be patient and shop around for something really good.
Pulled the 3050 out and plonked in a 3070 and gave the 3050 to my nephew for his potato PC
1st player brand is actually pretty good. I've been using their gold rated PSU for my 2nd PC for 5 years now and didn't have any problems with it.
That twist at the end really shook me! I didn't see it coming at all
Check the xmp in the cpu configuration > overlooking settings
You make me laugh every time, ... this time with the Scalpocalips .... xD !!!! Jeeez .... Great video Dawid !
Great video. Need a video on laptop with apu. Ho2 much adding ram will help
7:59 that should be your new channel picture that facial expression is gold
Great video! The world of pre-builts is getting turned on its head; used to be to get a decent system you had to go with name-brand. Now it seems the formerly-questionable options (Aliexpress? REALLY?) are coming into their own.
I would buy the Aliexpress system in a heartbeat if I didn't know how to build a system. If it just had a 5600x or 5700x, it would be a serviceable desktop for many years. The 2060 Super isn't great but I think the case and components are not bad. The 4500 kind of holds it back a little bit if anyone was to do productivity work on it. MXZ has a 5700 version for $979. They also have a 3060 Ti/1 TB SSD/5700 option for $1139. Not bad for a prebuilt. Sure you could build the same setup for about $800-900 but for it being prebuilt, it isn't bad.
Fighting fire with fire, are we?
Gotta love a nice Preventilation front panel!
I think it'd be very interesting to build a PC at the same price point and see how it compares to these pre-builts
Dawid, there is a fairly easy way to set up windows 11 without signing in with your microsoft account - when you get to the connect to the internet page press shift and f10 or shift fn and f10 to open the command then type in oobe\bypassnro then go through the setup process again and press i don’t have internet and connect it once you’re on the desktop
It's about time a CZcamsr comes up with a point system that actually makes sense
you can enable the xmp from ezmode in asus bios which is just at the bottom of the screen
I've done repairs and upgrades on the best buy system, everything was taped and glued down, made a cooler upgrade hugely more complicated in my experience. Also with the model I did repairs on had an RTX 3060 which starts having thermal issues and required a repaste and fan replacement, so yea, don't get those they really dont want you to upgrade it. (stock configuration had extreme thermal throttling on the cpu, hence the cooler upgrade)
Keep up the great work young man love your vids
Your content is gettting better! I enjoy thế head to dead videos!
It is wild that the Ali Express budget box crushes the Best Buy box. I think everyone knew it'd be better based on visuals alone. The Best Buy system looks still very much like an office PC tower from the late 90s - late 2000s.
Asus prebuilt really "blew" it. Got majorly "burned" in the benchmarks
i have the same asus prebuild but with little better specs and i love it lmao, got a video of 2 additional fans on the front.
Really enjoying your videos..keep it up!
Hey Dawid, i recently discovered your channel. It's brilliant and i'm slowly working my way through your library of videos. I have a new idea for you - TRASH BUILD! What's the best gaming PC you can build from free/dumpster hardware? Or... we all have favourite games from, say, 10 years ago that we return to (mine being Borderlands2). What's the cheapest build you can make with 2nd hand gear that will play a 10yr old game but with potential to upgrade?
I feel like depending on the mobo the RAM speed profile may or may not be reset on powerloss (especially since the battery is removed often times for shipping, or is just so old it loses charge).
That could be true for Aliexpress system, but for BestBuy one the problem probably lies in Intel's restrictions for non-k CPUs pre 12th/13th gen and a lower tier motherboard (H-series chipset?)
Seeing all these bad pre-built PC videos makes me really happy I managed to snag a great deal from Amazon for a Cyberpower PC that was $1550, but came with a 4070 15gb, an AMD 7 7700, a 1tb m.2 SSD, and 16GB of DDR*5*. My only issues with it was the 16gb number, but that was remedied by me buying another stick for 32GB total, and the lack of a USB-C port in the back. The case, an Eluna 241V case, has...interesting cooling on the left side of the PC, and while I'm not entirely unsure just how good the cooling's going to be in the coming Summer, it's been keeping everything pretty nice at 50C-ish when gaming for the GPU and about 70C for the CPU, which I guess is okay given that it's air-cooled.
The case has options to slap some fans on top of it if I want more or if I wanna slap on a water-cooling system instead, so overall I'm happy with the purchase (especially since my 6 year old system was a Cyberpower system too). It's amazing to me that there are *so many* bad pre-builts out there and yet I was able to get a good one that slipped through the gaps, and get this: Amazon or Cyberpower must've realized what they were offering for $1550, and raised the price to $2K, so I *really* got lucky here.
EDIT: The OS install was also incredibly clean with no bloatware or added anti-virus aside from what Windows comes with, so more points there.
OOBE\bypassRNO
Hit shift + f10 during the Windows 11 install and pop that in the prompt, it will restart the machine, then you'll be able to install on a local account.
Used it a few times now
Odd reference to Drachmi there as a form of payment. Surely brought back some memories
Your commentary is absolutely top notch ❤😂
If you get that system on Ali, you should also get a 120x360mm magnetic filter and a glass breaker.
the cackle from the "drool" gag was a little embarrassing
That was hilarious!
Haha it was a surprising touch 😂
@AnnaDoes Anna!! I didn't know you have a channel?! Subscribed!
Your obsession with Drachme is strong, i loved it too. :)
on a serious note I would rather build out from the ali as a base over the bestbuy, as a guy running an aorus mast w a ryzen 9 3900xt I think it is and a 3060 now as a sidegrade of my old 1080TI to lower fan noise
Intel MOBO don't have memory overclock options unless it is the highest end chipset, it just changed with LGA 1700, where the second highest end also can do momery overclock, but still can't do CPU overclock. AMD on the other hand can do overclock of both CPU and Memory in any SKU.
Dawid, I'm not sure if you know but you can bypass the microsoft login for windows 11 with a few commands from the out of box menu :) just in case you wanted to avoid it in the future
You should test bf5 in dx11 since the dx12 is kinda broken, while dx12 can give you a bit more performance (or less) depending on your system. DX11 doesnt suffer nearly the same stutters / frame time fluctuations dx12 does.
I'm so glad i decided to learn how to build and built my own PC.
Ryzen 4500 is PCIe 3.0 vs Intel 11th Gen PCIe 4.0. For gaming, it seems PCIe Gen doen't matter as long as it is 16x. For budget gaming (Australia), buying a laptop is more affordable. ROG Strix GA15 R5-3600X/16GB/1TB SSD/GTX1660Ti 6GB Desktop @ Harvey Norman is AUD 2399. A gaming laptop with Nivida 30XX is less than AUD 1900.
@5:00 the Ali-Gigabyte has 7 expansion slots. Not sure if that's a true indication it can actually be upgraded or expanded, but it's usually the case (no pun intended).
A quick perusal of the seller and I see they have a similar box with the R5 5500, a better CPU based on Zen 3 vs the R5 4500. The 5500 has double the L3 cache and support for up to 64GB RAM vs 32 GB. The 5500 also supports more PCIe lanes at 24 vs 12. The 5500 also beats the 4500 at most of the published benchmarks.
The price difference I see between these 2 systems with everything else the same is the 5500 with the same 2060S is about $30 CAD less. Really makes me wonder about choosing the 4500 in the first place.
EDIT: I am referring to the Aiexpress unit BTW.
1. Were those PS/2 connectors? I didn't know they were still a thing. Cool. I bought my motherboard in 2015 (X99 Deluxe 3.1) and it didn't have any.
2. I still have Windows 10 as my PC is not deemed worthy enough for Windows 11 requirements (older CPU and mainboard), but I didn't know you had to connect your Microsoft account to the OS. I hope there is a solution to that as I highly doubt I will ever accept that if I ever manage to get a new PC.
3. I wouldn't buy either, good points you made.
Cool video.
Cool and Heavy sound. 🎸i like it Justin 😱👍 greetings from the dutch lowlands NL 🇳🇱 EU 🇪🇺🖖
it's quite easy to bypass the MS account signin.wait for the signin screen and press shift + f10 and type oobe\bypassnro after a restart (pc will restart itself) you can set a local account (with any name you want). works on all version of win 11
The amount of cores and core speeds appears to be as valuable as to how many generations they are old. Both from the 4500 and 11400 to the current generations is perhaps a ~30 ish percent difference in efficiency. That's the difference between 4.2 ghz and 6ghz.
Also, I would have loved to see if a bit of aliexpress pc overclocking of the cpu could have helped it out in gta v specifically.
awesome video, good sane judgment
That's a good game idea... The arena from es4 oblivion but it's underground baby battles lmao
Metal strainer for a helmet and a rolling pin sword
Now you have to combine these two systems to make them better!!
My friend has a similar Asus System, he bought a great kit of High Speed Corsair RAM and I was going crazy when I saw that you couldnt change the RAM speed in the BIOS
I don’t have a clue about Computers. I find your videos entertaining 😂.
As always, providing valuable consumer advice
Having used asus bios recently which sucked btw the xmp profile can be enabled in ez mode like I couldn’t find it either until I went to ez mode
There definitely have to be some better options than a system with a 1660 ti or a RTX 2060 for a GPU.
When I shop in Germy for example the Lenovo Legion t5 with a Ryzen 5 5600g and an RTX 3060 for 860€ comes to mind. That's with taxes included.
really cool dawid keep the ghood work up
Damn Dawid. You just keep getting better!
Asus hides RAM speeds in the "My Favorites" tab sometimes for some reason. Just built a system with the b550 Gaming Wifi F and that's where the RAM speeds were located.
best ever tech review show ever lmaoooo dawid never fails to make me laugh XD
Did you compare, in specifics the Return and Exchange Policies of both and the actual (real) customer experiences? For example, the cost of shipping the Aliexpress PC back to the seller considering it will cost you a lot more then it cost to send to you.
Its have a hidden bios.
Just look for how to unlock it .
Pressing "A" while entering BIOS setting - after pressing your key to enter the BIOS setting (usually F1,F2,F8,F10,F12 or DELETE) immediately press A once. Look around your menus and see if something is unlocked.
If you have a laptop with an "Fn" function key toggle try pressing Fn+Tab three times. Check for menus again. I read that it is possible you need to re-enter your BIOS settings before unlocking the menu, so you could also try to enter your setting once, pressing the combination three times, and then re-enter the BIOS settings
Other common combinations, usually pressed while under POST to enter the BIOS: Shift+F1/F2/etc. ; Ctrl+Shift+F1/... ; Ctrl+Alt+F1/...; In laptops you could also try Fn+F1/.. or Ctrl+Fn+F1/...
The RAM speed issue is Intel's doing as I recall. They famously stated that XMP is overclocking and therefore it isn't supported on non-K skew chips.
that aliexpress system is a decent deal. Just need to upgrade the psu to a more reliable 650w and pop a ryzen 5 5600x in it. Though a better tower cooler would also be a good idea lol
Building a custom loop system with absolute bargain price water cooling components is a fun challenge and much more rewarding than expected.
love that point scale
You should at the end tell us how much (estimated ofc)each one would cost if we were to build it ourseleves using used parts