World Exclusive: Upgrading my Framework Laptop to AMD
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I met up with the Framework team to be one of the first people to upgrade my laptop from 11th Gen Intel to AMD Ryzen 7000! We're at the CoolerMaster booth because they've collaborated with Framework to bring us a really cool Case pro
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Intro
0:55 Tearing down my laptop
5:54 This case is SO cool!
11:18 Installing the AMD mainboard
18:17 WILL IT BOOT??
19:04 No means No, Linus
22:09 outro - Věda a technologie
Imagine a CEO being so knowledgeable about the product that he can point out the most niche things such as routing channels in his product. Its a breath of fresh air. Its helps that he has such a nice case presence.
If you look, right after he says he's built a few thousand of them, Linus has a visible reaction before the cut. Pretty sure Linus was about to ask him "holy shit, you actually work assembly too?!"
like lisa su ?, jensen ? almost all tech ceo know their product
Most, small company CEOs own their product. It’s where they started so it makes sense that they know their stuff. If it were a company like Microsoft or Google, I doubt their latest CEOs could tell you a thing or two about their OS or their browser and how it works.
@@wahdangun they know, but something niche like routing channels? nope.
@@wahdangun I can honestly say... Nope to that. You'd be surprised. It's actually scary really.
I like how he's not just the CEO, he actually understands his company's product and is genuinely excited about it!
Weird to think a lot of CEOs are lacking in the department
@@m_e_nere To be fair, Framework only has roughly two products :)
But in this case, isn't the CEO also the founder? Never seen a founder who wasn't excited about their product. :)
sigh.. is the tradeshow content now _finally_ over? it's the weekend already, can we now just please go back to regular content?
Last time I've seen a CEO this close to their product was probably Eric Migicovsky and Pebble. I'm rooting for the Framework team to make the dream work! Also as soon they release the touchscreen + active pen input version, I'm switching to them.
@@RandomUser2401 You may dislike them, but many (myself included) would enjoy at least one more.
I think the thing I love most about this - The CEO knows EVERYTHING about the laptop, every light, screw, and fixing. That's really cool to see!
He is also the founder, so would expect him to know everything. The company is also ~40 people. At that size, you still can know everything.
he said in the video that he build few thousand of them 5'52
A CEO that ISN'T a bigwig in an office somewhere completely disconnected from the company and it's products
@@honza970 If Elon can get the title of "Founder" from a lawsuit for just being one of the first investors, that should tell you a "founder" doesn't need to know shit of a product.
@@gerardopadilla2666 man a laptop company of 40 people aint comparable to someone having 4+ companies with 1000s of employees
I like how Esther went from not wanting to be on camera to handling Linus like a pro in no time.
@qtsssim no, it's about just naturally becoming god at something you didn't even know was possible.
Linus is used to having beautiful Asian women bossing him around 😂
women have a way around children
gotem
@@guaiqueritech yea I have a feeling linus's wife isn't too happy about his interaction with her... lol
@@tra-viskaiser8737 nah they seem to have enough mutual trust to allow their partner to... interact with people they may find attractive.
Gotta say how impressive it is that the Framework CEO knew every part of that machine, and how he kept his cool watching Linus touch his baby. You can tell guy seriously loves that machine and cares about it being done right.
he also has pretty darn good screen presence for someone who is clearly not a presenter type person.
Above and beyond Linus investing monitarily, the exposure on the channel is priceless, he would be a fool not to utilize the audience the collaboration offers, that said it was an enjoyable watch.
It's kinda like every massive tech giant.. starts with engineers making stuff thats great to making profits... Hopefully LTT & Framework never go down that road.
When engineers (or generaly people passionate about the product) are in charge, companies can make some truely amazing things..
When they sell to investors (privately or going public), that has a tendency to change things over time.
@@si2foo To get to that CEO position he needed a bit of charisma too.
There's a world of difference between CEO of private companies and CEOs of publicly-traded companies... the publicly-traded company ones are basically just figureheads put in place to do the bidding of Goldman Sachs and to collect gigantic paychecks as a signal to investors that the company is doing well. One of the things I like about AMD is that because they spent so long getting almost bankrupted by those "professional" CEOs that eventually they were willing to actually hand the company over to an actual engineer (Dr. Su) in an act of desperation. Since she is a PhD-bearing engineer and business is one of the simplest topics in the universe in comparison, she just had to spend like a weekend learning about business stuff and then was able to immediately reorient the company to actually center around engineering excellence and boom, took off like a rocket. I imagine by now she's probably having to get into knife-fights with bankers to keep out the parasite MBAs who would want to get in and start slashing and burning for tiny short term gains at the expense of long-term corporate survival (those types of CEOs hop from company to company every 3-4 years, so they're fine with cutting a throat that won't bleed out for 10).
man I love the CEO of Framework. He seem so chill and can actually throw punches back at Linus. It's really enjoyable to see!
Investors are companys biggest enemy... They are the main reason why you have bugs in games, software and hardware... why?
Because they see a screen working, you tell them hey its not ready we still need time yada yaa... they still force you to publish/release..
@@ahmadmuraish1144 It's a 2-way street. Investors have to keep the pressure up to make sure something is actually produced. No customer or investor will wait forever if the product gets stuck in development hell.
Plus he gets the team to deliver and knows how to assemble his own products. You don’t get many managers that can do that let alone a CEO at executive level
I agree, I mean obviously this is all promotional. But at least they seem to be aware of what LTT is doing, probably watch their videos and understand the context of it all. Which is pretty rare to see for most companies even, even more for CEO's.
With other companies they often seem so out of touch with even their own products.
I actually met him while he was filming this video, very chill dude and explains stuff clearly. got a selfie with him too lol
Man we need more Nirav! He seems like a CEO I'd actually want to work for, someone who really knows his product. Super excited to see Framework continuing to kick ass. They deserve it.
Nirav has clearly built a great team too.
Esther nailed it with both the design of the case & having amazing presence alongside Linus.
Esther did a great job dealing with Linus's craziness, showing off the product, and doing great on camera. Even though she is obviously not as comfortable in front of a camera as Linus, she did a fantastic job!
Honestly i dont think she was fased by the camera but by linus, hes so damn rough with everything i love it, but you could see the anxiety building as he messed things up
@@perfor5376 She would probably be more comfortable with Dave2D
@@trento7183 100%, love them both, but feels like dave2d is more like a uncle or one of the dad’s friend, you know, gentle. Friendly, knowledgeable and just calm
Esther did a great job, I hope she gets great feedback from her coworkers and peers, and allows herself to feel more confident doing similar things in future.
She really did you can tell she got more comfortable as time went on which is pretty normal. Happy she did so well
was gonna say the same thing. like the parent comment so linus / she sees it
What is a world exclusive
she is not going to fuck you dude
Dont know who esther is
Nirav is a boss and it was hilarious watching how visually uncomfortable he was with Linus just doing a full senderino on his life's work.
Yeah he was clearly under tension when the system was booting :D
...do you watch Jimmy Broadbent by any chance?
boss? paid actor?
Love how the CEO has SO MUCH knowledge about each and every aspect of the product even down to how the fan pipes are different between each board, what the debugging lights do, etc. That's impossible for someone who doesn't have passion for what he does ❤
Shows how CEOs need not be all business-ey all the time.
As a CEO (and also maybe the founder) of startup, they usually manages almost everything, till company get big enough and more specialized person come in to manage each part of business process. He maybe eventually will change his position to more suitable for his capabilities/passion when the times come. Like how LTT now. Linus step aside his position as CEO
so he can focus on what he can do the best and let CEO manage the business
if the ceo is also the founder then yes they ave to be into the business field no matter what it's in like 80% other than that the founder is rich and really rarely duinno about something and jumping for pure hype normally wealthy investors will buy small business better than founding from 0
you guys are like siblings fighting!
love it!
And to Nirav - hats off to a CEO who actually knows the stuff he is selling so thoroughly.
Nirav Patel seems like a really nice guy, the dynamic between him and Linus is great.
When two passionate tech heads are together, the bond is awesome 😅
Right! This parent and son chemistry is really fun to watch. Linus also, in my opinion, is really passionate in this kind of Framework topic videos. His demeanor is more lively and entertaining compared to his usual appearance on the other videos.
Keep making video like this please.
yeah, they seem like really good friends lol, i love it
Patel's are cute
@@rohitanshukhilar1904 knew a Patel once. She had some major Indian Mother energy. Fun as hell though. Laughed every time I greeted her in Hindi lol
Just the fact that Framework is coming out with a second generation of products and is meaningfully expanding their accessory line is a huge sign of success compared to a lot of other similar startups. Kudos to those folks, I really think their success would be a good thing for the laptop ecosystem.
This is their third generation.
And it's having a collaboration with other brand, big brand in this industry like cooler master
Yeah, i was very sceptical considering the fate of similar modular phone companies
Yeah how many "modular" or "upgradeable" product lines have companies far bigger and more mature than these guys produced? Basically none of them ever got more than one or two lame modules and "upgradeable" laptops universally NEVER got any upgrades (remember MXM?). But these guys seem to genuinely be making it happens and I love that
You did great Ester!
That was a lot of pressure to be put under all of a sudden but you did a great job.
Love the framework guys and gals, always nice to hear from the people actually making the product.
Honestly, if they maintained their current ethos in designing a printer, I'd buy that in a heartbeat, as well as one for my mom and one for each of my closest friends. I would honestly throw my money at them for it.
for printer its hard bcs the big ink hold their own patents and dont sell module/parts like amd/skhynic and co.
@@fltfathin100% agree. my hp printer was cheaper than the ink 💀
@@fltfathintrue. Even the chinese still cant make their own printer i wonder why
I'm not seeing nearly enough love for the cooler master rep. She got on video out of nowhere and kept her cool and did her best to explain everything. Just the fact that she didn't think she would have to talk tells you she was 110% nervous about it.
Do you see any review at LTT comparing any cooler master HSF ? A chart even ! I really wonder what's up - or what isn't - with LTT and cooler master. I mean ... probably noctua has some partnership with LTT that leaves cooler master out. Probably ...
She doesn't represent cooler master. She's on product design team of framework.
Why Coolermaster and not Coolermiss? :P
@@alpine9214 The feminine of master is mistress.
I am a little bit in love maybe
The chemistry between the two of them is great.
Kudos to the lady as well. She did well without being prepared.
She was great!
@@lordadamfirst and suuuuper cute. What is does she does as an Industrial Design ? Did she designed that case ?
AMD is junk trash
She was the best part of the video.
When she takes over the case from linis to put the base of the case is gold... Linus met his rival
Wow, in the current landscape of laptops with soldered in SSD, RAM and crippled ports, this is the first one that genuinely makes me want to upgrade (from my late 2017 Spectre x360)
Plus the industry does things like glued batteries and screens etc. Everything on the framework is modular really by comparison.
CEO had me dying, the stress and joy in his face. He was amazing!
This whole concept fills me with joy. Upgrading a LAPTOP??? Changing its PLATFORM??? We need MORE of this!!!
this could be better if they had a steamdeck like case too i know its a small company but think its not that hard to do it if they show something like that probably they will got more investment.
@@edussantoz9034 they need to focus their development efforts or else they wouldn't finish them in time.
I didn't even know there was such a thing until I saw this video. I'm getting one!
I agree. This is the blueprint for success.
You want more of that? Oh you'll get it.. at a price.
It is awesome to see a tech CEO who ACTUALLY knows the ins and outs of their own products!
Wholeheartedly agreed!
nah not that pfp
IDK but I always supposed that when someone is CEO, he ought to know every thing his company does bcs he like... Build it and stuff. Am I naive and stupid?
@@KanecicqSTUDIOS yes, sadly so. Chieve Executive Officer (CEO) isnt "Founder". Companies with a board sometimes change through CEO's like i change my underwear: maybe once a year. There are even companies BUYING a certain CEO in hopes of him getting it back on its feet.
@@KanecicqSTUDIOS CEOs are usually just the guys who are good at business. They don't know technical stuff, they hire other people for that.
That Framework team supporting him was awesome
This just got me even more excited about buying one. Seeing the team there and just watching the interaction between Linus and Nirav shows that Nirav is a pretty down to earth guy who is really excited about what he is doing. Who knows what the future holds when the company gets bigger, but right now I want to be part of it.
The thing i love the most is a CEO who knows hows their product works to an insane detail. I am excited for my laptop to come in the second batch.
That happens when you're a real startup founder. You start a company to do something you know how to achieve, at least roughly. Instead of just getting investors money and hope people you hire in the future will figure it all out.
@@li_tsz_fung He said it himself, "I've built thousands of them"
If often starts like that.....
@@cederian thats crazy hahaha sooo exited to see future with the company
For sure. In fact if you look at Frameworks repair and upgrade guides, the vast majority of them are written by the CEO himself.
Props to Nirav (Frameworks CEO), knowledgeable and good on camera and seeing Linux handle your beta version delicate hardware must be hard haha.
Props to Esther, definitely sounded like she wasn't aware she'd be on camera at all and possibly not confident in her English but she did great.
Framework is the only company that actually seems to take this concept of reparability and upgradability for a mobile device seriously. I hope it takes off like crazy and they'll tackle other market segments.
Corporations are already planning on how to make them NOT take off like crazy.
@@SIGJNFof course they are and i hate that honestly
I love the idea that your laptop parts can be upgraded and then use the older parts for a server.
The HW they offer, so the specs, are top notch, better than Lenovo's T14 series - if the built quality is good it's also an absolute bargain - they could sell for 20% more easily and justify it that u don't need to buy a while new laptop next time and save $ buy just replacing the Mainboard - I really hope they don't get a buy-out and then killed off " for safety reasons"
@Garrus Vakarian Smert, and reeally pretty.
This was so much fun. I love these interactions. Cool and passionate people enjoying themselves with what they do best. Oh, and Linus as well. He's allright.
Damn, I don't think I've been this excited by anything in tech in the last couple of years as right now. I really hope Framework stays on the right path and continues to improve
All of Linus's Framework videos are seriously the best marketing Framework could possibly ask for. The number of new laptops they're gonna sell after this video is probably pretty significant.
Yep. I had heard whispers of FW but after seeing a few of the LTT videos I was all in and ordered one.
I have been wanting a framework for ages but I waited until there was an AMD version (and a better battery). Looks like the time has come 🤩
I'm eyeing one of those laptops!!!
if i had a better paying job, i'd buy a laptop, it honestly is the best one imo because of its upgradability and access to replacement parts
I can only fully agree with you
Its crazy to think how much the laptop space has changed with AMD efficiency and can continue to change with Frameworks upgradability.
AMD is junk
@@Gay-is-_-trash cry more
@@Gay-is-_-trash I didn't realize your mom's name is AMD
dude i got an r5 5500u and it easily beats my mate's i7 1135g7 while being 25% cheaper, it's nuts and battery life has been amazing
@@StemLG Nobody believes you.
I love the fact that you can keep the old components and turn them into a spare computer. This feature sold me on this as my next laptop.
@@qtsssim Nothing is stopping you from buying a mainboard + case, but they are significantly more expensive than a regular pc, longer lead times and less availability.
Just get a NUC at that point, since that is essentially what you're converting the old laptop main boards to
The team and the ceo are just awesome. My next laptop will so be a framework. The price is good and i just love the concept that you can build your own laptop yourself. Not even to replace the parts down the line just great. This is a company and a cause i want to support.
The Framework guy seems genuinely nice, and the collab with Cooler Master is such a smart thing to do.
Because that is the CEO of Framework himself.
The dynamic of linus ripping apart his computer like a monkey while nirav stands there in horror is priceless, I hope to see more videos involving this paring in the future. You can tell how badly nirav wants to do the upgrade himself. Its giving a strong "for tinkerers by tinkerers" vibe.
I was actually a little disappointed that Linus didn't drop the motherboard and break it!
I'm rooting for this company with all my heart!
I love modular laptops
I like PCs but I never have the money nor the stability to own them
I have a Lenovo thinkpad now and I'm looking forward for this company to grow even bigger
11:14
Me every time when i have to fix my parents' computer
I feel like these framework laptops are a big middle finger to large tech companies that restrict our ability to repair and modify the products we buy from them. I like it.
those spare screws were especially middle fingers to them
Bet you’re lookin’ at Apple huh
@@darkside6450 Not just Apple. HP are one of those culprits. Locking down wifi cards to what they sell.
@@MahaXad HP also for printers, firmware update that if you use non original ink/toners, printer doesn’t work.
I really hope they become widespread, at least as a hip premium option to ultrabooks. I hope some day these are sold worldwide and not only in developed countries.
Framework really is changing the game regarding upgradable PCs. But yeah, Linus’ previous attempt at upgrading the GPU of his laptop seemed like it was painful for the employees.
I believe you meant CPU, but mainboard/logic board wouldbe more accurate.
They're not doing anything new, they just haven't abandoned it after 1-2 generations, which shouldn't be amazing but is
he upgraded the whole MOBO not just a GPU, new cup, everything.
@@daniwalmsley611 oooo a pessimistic viewpoint
AMD is junk, garbage
I bet that AMD chip gave him a virus
F*cking stop with the pride sht. It's disgusting
This might be my favorite LTT video ever. The Coolermaster and Framework folks were all great.
I love that external case in collab with cooler master, so cool to be able to reuse parts as a computer that thin! The CEO and team are so cool and I am seriously rooting for their success. you can just feel their passion for their products and belief in this for the future
The desktop case supporting VESA mounts is massive. They've effectively entered the all in one market with just developing a new PC case.
My nuc came with a bracket for attaching it to a vesa mount
It's great. Whats missing for me is an expernal power button that you can add somewhere to your monitor. I'm not crawling behind the monitor everytime I want to turn it on.
@@geyoda64 there is someone who made a board you can attach to the input connector so to which you can solder a power button, usb 2.0 and some software controlled leds.
Google "Framework Mainboard Power Button Shim"
@@AltonV True, but that was purposely build to be on a monitor, as the whole concept of mini pc's was to have it directly on the monitor. This here from Framework and Cooler Master is a "byproduct" that came to life because you can purposely re-use your old MB, when you're upgrading, to even further support the idea of limiting E-waste. 🙂
@@ReaperSilently no it wasn't purposely built to be on a monitor, they just included the option for it to be.
This is a skull canyon to be precise
OK, I was skeptical. Beyond skeptical. I said it was a solution looking for a problem. I was wrong. Being able to swap out and turn the old "computer" into a new computer is a game changer. Excellent stuff.
Raspberry pie? Eat your heart out!
@@wojtek-33 My thought is enterprises. Companies can move an employee’s machine into a less-damaged shell or upgrade their existing shell without throwing away the existing one. Even it timespan of less than 5yr mere repairability is worth it.
@@wojtek-33 A lot of companies would love stuff like this. For a personal user i think it depends on where you are from a lot and also your use case.
@@wojtek-33 for me a key consideration is that I don't necessarily need to be the one reusing this. I have plenty of family members that would be happy with something like an Intel NUC and this would work for them as a primary PC in the cooler master case.
Plus 11th gen Intel running Linux is a lot more powerful for running stuff that people would often push to a raspberry pi.
@@wojtek-33 thought about repair ability?. What if your usb-c breaks?. Internal display cable goes out etc etc.. with this its an easy swap. Its so much more then just upgrade a mainboard.
Nice. I'd like to see a larger model 17" and display options like 120Hz OLED with also dGPU options. Would be so awesome. Great to see they're slowly advancing.
I love the framework concept and I will definitely continue to watch this company develop. I hope to have a badass framework laptop with upgradable gpu/cpu's! someday soon!
I REALLY hope Framework succeeds! Any product that has extra screws of each type built into the product and not just in a bag that you'll lose is definitely something to keep an eye on. Also, the amount of knowledge the CEO has is very inspiring! He's not just a business guy, he's passionate about the project and knows the details!!
For real. I sincerely hope that I'm right in thinking the world is moving forward on the whole right to repair concept and I'm so glad these guys seem genuinely on board for the long haul by leading the way on this movement. User serviceable/upgradable is one thing, but there's a difference between allowing and encouraging. These guys are beyond encouraging; they're banking on the movement. It's a huge risk, but a necessary one to usher us into the next chapter. Kudos Framework team!
I mean they already technically made it and succeeded, the hard part is actually over for them, the main issue they have is exposure at this point, Linus and other tech tubbers have helped get the Tech community aware of their product, but they need 2 market segments, 1-Mainstream Users/Gamers(which the swappable GPU 16 inch will solve and maybe a bit of marketing) 2- Business/Enterprise, this is where the real money is at, and TBH if businesses aren't jumping on this they should be shot, the money they can save is retarded and they can get that green cert by reusing and then selling old modules off at used prices to recoup some of the bite. THis would make IT so much easier for companies.
@@nocturnal101ravenous6 Where I live businesses write the cost of hardware off against their income, but then once they've completely written off the purchase price they can't sell the equipment. Usually the computers go to charity.
@@nocturnal101ravenous6I'd say add educational to that, if they could get into schools that could be huge as schools apparently end up with tons of broken chromebooks which are very hard to repair.
@@bionicgeekgrrl Yeah agreed, back in the battleground days both Apple and Microsoft knew that was a market that was needed, good call on that.
I actually agree with their choice to not include wifi and audio stuff. If you have a compatible bit from elsewhere or if you’re taking a full laptop and desktop-ifying it (not keeping the laptop working) that reduces e-waste. I think they should say what you will need in addition to a motherboard when buying it so that someone isn’t blindsided.
You may not even need it. A lot of people probably have some old USB sound card lying around that came with some headphones or phone or who knows what. I know I’ve accumulated several over the years, and even the ones from like 15 years ago still do the basic job of USB in, 3.5mm out.
I agree, you might have busted up your screen and your repurposing the working parts into a desktop or headless machine. Or if your making a homeassistant server or similar, you don't need audio on it at all, and you'd want the 2.5GbE NIC instead of a WiFi NIC anyway.
So do I. There will be bigger chance of those who don't need them and it would just produce more potential e-waste if it is included in the default package.
Yeah. Just a little warning pop up or something should be just fine.
Giving people exactly what they may want and nothing extra that may go in the bin is the aim fo the entire operation. So it is a good decision
Yup, I would just add a Hidiz S9pro (2.5mm or 3.5mm audio) or a SoundBlaster for a box like that.
Nirav and team thank you for a great product. I built one for my wife last year. Loaded it and haven't hear of one peep of it being a problem. Bravo. She is a tough user and usually crushes things in software or hardware bugs. Like our chrome book that crashed.
Keep up the good work
I adore that cooler master case, brilliant collab between framework and CM there. So many potential uses.
This is sick, I’m glad this didn’t abandon first adopters like other manufacturers always do!
I would be happy and fine if they did abandon the first adopters. I know a project like this is super-difficult and complicated, and in the process many things have changed and improved. I am willing to let a company like this off-the-hook because they deserve it.
But not the huge established corporations which promise something just to break it shortly after.
If anything, I would be happy to see them get a lot of things right and start a "FrameWorks 2.0" platform. And when they are successful ($100 Million valuation) that they can always come back and reward their first adopters with a free laptop or something. Something like that used to be super-common in the 1980s startup scene. But the past 20 Years it's been companies trying to be super competitive in pleasing shareholders.
@@ekinteko I think their 2.0 platform would be the 16 inch model.
I really hope this becomes popular and sticks around. We need our modularity back on laptops
Sure! Until some Trillion dollars buy it for a Billion dollars and kill it.
Agreed! I miss the old days of being able to add and remove things from laptops and other devices.
Even more so than that Alienware Area 51m laptop.
More to the point, we need AFFORDABLE replacement parts for laptops.
Do you also remember the prices of MXM GPU's back then?
Horribly overpriced for not a good increase in performance (it was either cheaper or would cost the same to just get a brand new laptop with modern dGPU).
Personally, I use mostly 17" laptops. I like the bigger size and the power it can provide... and because I like portability and doing content creation/productivity on the go, I don't mind lugging a bigger laptop with me (its not that heavy).
Well, not gonna happen if they're only selling on one side of the world.
I love this so much! I'm about to get a framework! That custom portability case from Cooler Master is awesome too!
Man, I really hope they hit it off.. the Framework team seems so cool, and I love these modular ideas.
I'm wondering if HP, Dell or Lenovo's CEOs are able to even upgrade their SSDs. Framework's CEO knows everything about his creation. Mad respect.
It's also is basically 2 CEO's bantering which each other that are passionate about products
They are not paid to know that and they serve industries far beyond little gamer laptops lol
@@England91 does Linus even count as a CEO at this point?
@@leonro yes, because he steps down in a month
What we do know for sure is that Apple's CEO can't upgrade the SSD in his MacBook, because it's glued together, and the SSD cannot be accessed.
It's settled for me. When my laptop dies, and Framework sells to my country, I'm buying it!
This video showed the team excitement, that we already saw previously on the actual product design and care. Bravo!
Esther was also awesome, and I praise Coolermaster for this good collab!
I will be too. Framework seems to be the next step in computing. We can forget these large companies such as Dell and HP which sell restricted machines which you cannot customise to fit your own needs.
Same here
Loved her accent.👍
@@domnanzwandor Weirdo
@@rhamlet5290 so its weird to compliment people?
The only reason I don't have a Framework laptop already was the lack of AMD options, so I'm really thrilled to see this! I still want a 9 pin legacy serial port module, though!
I guess this video was a win for framework and Nirav. He really knows everything about the product and I love it. I can absolutely feel the part about the hard work and the process of building credibility.
I think Framework is making the right call with not including anything with at least the base Cooler Master case. Less waste from things people don't need, but it'd be a good idea to be able to add some modules to their case purchase as packages (if they don't already)
Exactly, for server use we don't need wifi or audio
@@Will-sc3hw this, but also, for upgrading the case (like in the video), you’ll likely already those modules, and there’s no reason to pay for another one
@@aarond309 Yes and no. If you’re going the full upgrade path that Linus is showing - you have those modules but you still want/need them for your laptop. So additional modules will be necessary if you need that functionality in your re-deployment of the old board.
You can always buy more modules if you want them, but if they're added by default and not wanted they would be waste, which I understand is against the philosophy of the whole project.
@@phyphor Seems to me that the solution would be to include some modules, but allow the user to select which ones they need included when they order it.
Linus working as hard as he can to prove Framework is "foolproof"
it is not foolprof they have sequential instructions in their website you will have to follow it.
@@whocares3132 lol that's sooooo much better than what other laptops have, which is either nothing, or some repair worker's video on how to take the machine apart.
Also, when I took my laptop apart to change out the horrible stock thermal paste, the thermal putty that was supposed to be on the VRAM and VRM + chokes weren't even applied properly, with some of them not have any on them at all, and some having way too much applied. I had to fix all of that...
actually with linus doing it yolo style, it can trigger framework's ux team to be creative with their design so their product can actually be foolproof someday
I cant wait for this laptop to come out its really gonna help when I have animation work to do when on the move! hope it comes out before summer ends!
3:38 yes correct, you can actually destroy fine cables by moving them around too much. the metal in the wires is very fragile. Infact, in some old laptops the issue was the cables would get shredded by the hinge guard casing lol, and cause fires too!
you can actually tell this CEO has seen a lot of feedback about how things go can get messed up. and that gives me a lot of confidence that they can actually make repairable devices work long term
That's my biggest concern: After a couple of years, old boards are "outdated" and you can't buy cases for them anymore. Then you might have to buy a complete new system.
Nirav: "You have to be carefu..."
Linus: "...Yeah Yeah Yeah, Mom."
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Great video, superb interactions, very educational, & quite entertaining. Way to go, Linus!
I absolutely adore the concept, the CEO, and the results they've shown so far. Hits all my wishes for reuse, smart design, and great user experience. I hope and pray they keep growing until I can buy one!
It's not that the audience likes seeing you taken down a peg, it's that we enjoy you being on our level. Even since your NCIX days it was felt more like you were one of us, rather than 'just a host' doing a job. :)
Linus is a stakeholder (part owner) of Framework. It's a friendly video but he's definitely not a "regular guy" here lol.
This comment deserves more attention!
Nirav has clearly been taking notes from DBrand on how to foster a memorable working relationship with Linus
1000000% this. It’s because Linus makes it feel like he’s one of the regular pc builders is why this channel is so amazing.
No we never felt that. Only the weirdest of nerds.
Can't wait for Framework to be available in Sweden. Love the whole upgradeability/resell/reuse community behind it.
Cool characters. Great mix of Linus's directness and the reps' ability to have character and ability to think on their feet :) Well done.
I love that they made the top of the case translucent. We should bring back more see-through electronics.
We should bring back the option to have one or the other. Is there any gaming desktop that doesn't have a glass window?
only minor problem is that cast acrylic is kinda fragile, it gets brittle after a few years. Just have to be a little more careful with that stuff.
My clear purple Game Boy still looks good!
@@ydna yeah acrylic gets oxidized over time, and high temperature speed up the process (the oxidation also changes the color of the acrylic to yellow or pale brown)
Brings back memories of older days, but still looks cool. With the right material, I don't see why not
I totally understand why you invested in this company. Not only is their product just fantastic, but the entire team seem to be lovely and really good on camera. Nice!
Yes, he totally knew that before...
@@tanakaobi You don't think he met them before writing them big checks?
My 13th gen Intel Framework just arrived today and I love it! I discovered them because of videos on your channel, and I'm super happy with my decision 😁
Framework is such an awesome company! I would definitely buy their laptop if it was available through a retailer in my country.
Watching the saga of Framework unfold since their announcement has been everything I hoped it would be! If they continue this extraordinary user-friendly/focused design philosophy, they will have customers for life.
I love the coolermaster booth rep; she was great, and so was framework. I'm so happy to see this kind of modularity in the market, and product collaboration
she wasn't the rep the same way as the CEO wasn't the framework rep
plus, she's reallyyy cute.
I'm actually growing to get rather excited about framework. Next time I need a laptop, I'll be looking into them.
I enjoy watching the 20 minutes exposé and advertisement.
Hope I get a framework laptop in the future!
Keep up the good work LTT team!
We need more Framework videos, their products are amazing, and Nirav is mopping the floor with every other CEO.
Every other CEO: ✍️know your product ✅.✍️don’t be a sociopath❌.
Most frustrating thing about laptops in my experience has always been how quickly they fall behind without the ability to truly upgrade. So this is really nice to see.
The "I'm sure you've never read a service manual...in your life" part got me haha.
This guy is so super likeable and I'm excited about what Framework is doing. Can't wait to get a 16".
Using the framework coolmaster thing with a projector to be a home theater would be a sick way to use it. So much power and versatility in a thin and light package
I bet the 3D printing community is going to go nuts over the coolermaster case with it's built in brackets (if they haven't already just been designing motherboard cases already)
I mean at that point just use an android tv box
@@madmanmax120 Framework themselves provides a model to print your own case
@JohnWalz97 the thing is that all of those android tv boxes from china are full of malware and spyware
@@JohnWalz97 android tv box?
didnt they said few weeks ago, they are not safe?
i absolutely love this! both the relationship and the idea of framework. this live showcase is fantastic! I want more FRAMEWORK!
This is awesome, I hope to see these in the homelab community in a few years when second hand laptop mainboards are cheap!
A framework printer actually seems like a good idea. I have repaired a few printers over the years and it is not enjoyable in a lot of cases. A printer designed to be user maintainable seems very practical.
In general definitely a company I hope to continue see meet with success.
Props to Esther! She did great! Hell, the whole team did great!
Something like this absolutely should be the new legal standard for products. As someone who likes to tinker and upgrade my own stuff, this is so much better than fighting with some proprietary BS you can't get parts for.
Love how chill this was, also at 8:56 very confused dude in black tank top (no not Linus furbastian either)
What a great CEO! Seems like a super chill, informed dude. I might look into getting one of these...
That is so fkn cool! Where has this been all my life?!? All these years of running old laptops as servers and tv boxes... Framework definitely just earned a sale. Gotta get one now.
😮 oh my god how did I not know this existed?! how long has a modular laptop (of that extent and not a gimmick) been a thing?!? I have no words. Just love.
The CEO of Framework gives such great vibes! Would love to see him again the next time something big is coming to Framework! Kudos to the team, and the coolermaster case for the motherboard is sleek! So happy for all of this!
I always loved the Framework concept, but adopted a "wait and see" approach. Seeing more of the little details, and actually seeing this upgrade happen for real, I'm honestly really impressed.
And that case is sick to boot. Seeing the modules with labels is awesome.
I'm running Debian on a 12th gen Framework. Couldn't be happier. The forums took care of a few odd compatibility issues.
Get one!
I bought a 12th gen framework to replace my 10 year old toshiba with a 3rd gen i7 earlier this year. It is actually everything I hoped it would be. No regrets.
Same here! 🎉
Running pop!_OS on an 11th gen Framework, and it's been a wonderful experience! Can't wait to try out AMD and the 16".
I will be needing a new laptop sometime in the next year or two, definitely going to go after one of these. Also love that they ant to mount that thing to the back of a monitor. When I go to upgrade my monitor I know what I'm doing w/ my old monitor 🤔 since I'll probably have a framework laptop at that time that'll need an upgrade lol.
Just love this company! I really appreciate, that Linus did invest in them. They are doing great and I love the crossover videos.
I still have a 6 year old working laptop, but if it’s ever going to die without the chance of repair, then my next one will be a framework for sure!
of all tech investments i've seen, this is probably the most exciting! it's great seeing updates and exclusives, and the CEO of Framework genuinely knows his stuff, which obviously helps. his team seem great too :D
The most impressive thing about the CEO, isn't that he knows the hardware and keeps cool, it's that he was able to realise in a tense situation that Linus wouldn't be able to login with his pin. To be able to focus on presenting, listening to Linus, and still give thought to it is super impressive.
Just maintainer PvP MLB non not to
it's really a joy to see a dad teach his son to fix his toy
You can see in his eyes all of the support requests starting to make sense
That framework/coolermaster case thing is an insanely cool idea!
It all just makes sense, and I love it!
Other than some spacing, you can also stack them up to mark a farm.
My company is considering framework laptops instead of Dell after I showed them, they want to try and see how support and spare part would work.
This makes a lot of sense if they provide support comparable to Lenovo or Dell for their business customers.
Imagine the low maintenance and upgradation costs. Especially during the 3-4 year corporate laptop replacement cycle.
They would just need to replace the motherboard and BOOM, its new again.
@@frozenfire72 also we have laptops with French and international layout. So we have many spare laptops with both layouts. With framework, we would need less laptops, just spare keyboards (then we could have more exotic ones too)
@@Arvi89 Damn! Framework really needs to push their marketing towards corporates. There's a goldmine of opportunities here.
I love the CEO of framework watching him stand there and the look on his face you can tell he cares about his products after they leave the factory.