Tetris' Rotation System is Wonderfully Broken
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- čas přidán 14. 06. 2024
- Yes, I’m really spending 18 minutes talking about rotating blocks.
And I don’t regret it one bit.
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:44 The Tetris Games of Old
3:23 One Ruleset to Rule them All
5:03 The Super Rotation System
8:35 The Art of the T-Spin
14:12 Modern Tetris Masters
16:08 Conclusion
Credits:
Written and edited by Superclass.
Captions by Pineapples Foster Media Services:
allmylinks.com/pineapples-foster
Special thanks to everyone who contributed to harddrop.com, to free-icon-rainbow.com for hosting a ton of free-to-use icons and to freesound.org for hosting a ton of free sound effects.
Intro music is Area 1 from Tetris Effect: Connected.
I also “borrowed” the motion graphics seen in this video by 4096: • Evolution of Game Cart...
Attributions:
Game Cartridge Icon by Melvin Salas from the Noun Project: thenounproject.com/term/game-...
CD Icon by derex99: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD-ROM#...
"Airplane, Boeing, Flyby, Right to Left, A.wav", "Wind, Synthesized, A.wav" and "UI Confirmation Alert, A5.wav" by InspectorJ (www.jshaw.co.uk) of Freesound.org
“Flipping page.wav” by Mega-X-stream: freesound.org/people/Mega-X-s...
NES Controller Font by MrShrike: www.deviantart.com/mrshrike/a...
SRS rotations by bocifer: / i_made_some_srs_charts
“OpenBag.wav” by TriqyStudio: freesound.org/people/TriqyStu...
Tetris - Theme B Orchestral Cover by David Chirol: • Tetris - Theme B Orche...
TV Noise Stock Video from www.videezy.com
Sources:
Link to that one page with a bunch of T-Spin setups: harddrop.com/wiki/Category:T-...
History of Tetris on Tetris’ Official Website: tetris.com/history-of-tetris
Tetris: how we made the addictive computer game by Phil Hoad: www.theguardian.com/culture/2...
Tetris from the Top: An Interview with Henk Rogers by Jonathan Metts: www.nintendoworldreport.com/i...
How to Perform a T-Spin in Tetris by Morgan Shaver: tetris.com/article/70/how-to-...
Tetris Story by Vadim Gerasimov: vadim.oversigma.com/Tetris.htm
History of Tetris Rotation: tetrisconcept.net/threads/his...
Tetris Creator Alexey Pajitnov by TWiT Tech Podcast Network: • Tetris Creator Alexey ...
Tetris The Grand Master 4 The Masters of Round on TetrisWiki: tetris.wiki/Tetris_The_Grand_...
Additional footage:
A 1989 TETRIS Expert Plays TETRIS EFFECT for the First Time by Nick Robinson: • A 1989 TETRIS Expert P...
Tetris Effect - E3 2018 Announce Trailer | PS4 by Playstation: • Tetris Effect - E3 201...
[Puyo Puyo Tetris] Welcome to modern Tetris by Lilla Oshisaure: • [Puyo Puyo Tetris] Wel...
Greatest Classic Tetris Match EVER! Greentea vs. Joseph EPIC 2019 CTWC Quarterfinal FULLSCREEN by Classic Tetris: • Greatest Classic Tetri...
TETRIS 99: TAFO TEACHES T-SPIN TRIPLES by Tafokints: • TETRIS 99: TAFO TEACHE...
Tetris Friends- The Power of c4w by AlvinGreat: • Tetris Friends- The Po...
Puyo Puyo Tetris: Perfect Clear Tutorial by Deep Silver: • Puyo Puyo Tetris: Perf...
Tetris 99: Do a L-Spin Triple (13 KOs + Victory) by Tafokints: • Tetris 99: Do a L-Spin...
[Tetris 99] to the beat by Doremy: • [Tetris 99] to the beat
Tetris Highlight: Stacked Trinities by King Nidhogg: • Tetris Highlight: Stac...
17 y/o REIGNING TETRIS CHAMP vs. 42 y/o GRANDMASTER! - 2019 Classic Tetris FINAL - JOSEPH vs. KORYAN by Classic Tetris: • 17 y/o REIGNING TETRIS...
Tetris Effect: Connected - Zone Battle - GREENTEA FINAL BOSS! By Classic Tetris: • Tetris Effect: Connect...
am i cool yet by numbers: • am i cool yet - Hry
Corrections:
-Polymer T-Spins are a thing.
-The text at 15:05 should have read "Joseph would have lost this *round* instantly", not the set.
-As someone pointed out in the comments, "it's worth noting that basic t-spin doubles are possible in almost every tetris game, since it doesnt require any kicks. they just were not recognized for scoring pre-guideline so had little use outside of fixing your stack and looking cool".
-At 12:19, I talk about Mini T-Spin Singles as if you can't go any higher. That's not true. Mini T-Spin Doubles are possible, but they're very unlikely to happen and the way they work seems to be inconsistent across games (even the guideline games), which is why I didn't talk about them even though I knew about their existence. In hindsight, I should have covered them anyway.
Ok
15:14 also DBZ is known for making its fights take long so not an apt comparison really
What is that source for the set ups that people can perform? What is that site?
@@DontBother_YT harddrop.com/wiki/Category:T-Spin_Methods
Some of these setups might be ineffective in actual matches though.
also the thumbnail was kinda incorrect, it should say 4 instead of three, and "Turn 1" would be a lot more accurate
it's worth noting that basic t-spin doubles are possible in almost every tetris game, since it doesnt require any kicks. they just were not recognized for scoring pre-guideline so had little use outside of fixing your stack and looking cool
True that! I should have mentioned that detail in the video. It's going in the corrections.
A basic T-spin double looking cool is the entire reason I clicked the video lol
Almost? I don't there's a version of tetris where it can't be done
Got me back into tetris
@@d4ve19Cultris , NES tetris, TEC's classic mode
Wow this video actually explained T-spins in a way that made sense to me. I'm an old lady that's been playing since the 90s and I usually just go for Tetrises even when I play the newer versions, but I think I might practice looking for t spin set ups now.
Good luck with that, hope you enjoy the magic of t-spins
Once you start seeing them you'll find uses everywhere. It's really upped my game
Good luck!
an old lady with an Osaka pfp, hope life treats you well
Once you’ve mastered T-spins, you’ll be hooked. So you’ll be doing c-spins and DT elevators
"It's broken but fascinating" is exactly why I came up with the elevator setups in the first place, glad to know these are still carrying the feeling forward lol
Pretty damn good video, I like how instead of going all technical it keeps the focus on how it _feels_ to learn all this. It's a perspective I don't see much and I sometimes forget how it's like to get into all this when just starting out.
Omg its prime srs abuser lilia
Love that it’s called SRS
Ah yes the srs masochist
Oshiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
What do the numbers _smell like?_
It's ironic how they made a simple yet difficult system more complex in order to make it easier, but ended up also making it harder in it's complexity at the end of the day.
They took the strange quirks of a new system created to make things more accessible and turned them into actual mechanics that high skill players can use to demolish the game.
Even if you hate modern Tetris over classic Tetris, you cannot deny that this is was an ingenious move when attempting to expand on the game while trying to keep it traditional.
A fix turned into a huge skill ceiling window thrown wide open. That's what I'll call it!
The editing in this video is absolutely insane, wow. Every little animation is so unique and polished, I can't imagine how long this took you to make! Incredible!
As a competitive Tetrio player that already knows about all of this, this video was amazing. The editing is top notch!! Amazing work dude! Very underrated!
Same dude, what rank are you right now?
same.
was surprised it only had 50k views
@@TheVeryGenericUsername the account under the same name as his Yt account is only A+
same
The fact king crimson is unironically a Tetris maneuver is the funniest thing to me, as a Jojo fan. Nobody will ever know how it works.
It just works
Let me explain to you how it works. The King Crimson maneuver is so powerful, that it literally causes a period of time to not exist, bringing them to a point in the future where they have the exact same board, and the piece in a slightly different spot.
@@captncuddlybear9404 it's actually a move so powerful that it becomes hard to comprehend by even the most knowledgeable grandmasters causing the brain to block out that period of time entirely
I'm glad I'm not the only one who's JoJo brain immediately activated after hearing that name.
@@green-lean-espeon yeah ik
This video is criminally underrated for its production quality. This is incredible work and I really hope your channel blows up soon!
this just landed in my recommendations, so I think this will come true soon :D
really looking forward to it too, this channel deserves a lot more attention than it has currently
@@starspritechippy can confirm got here from recommended!
Fucking this oh my god that outro.
The title card effect with the text falling into the outline of itself like a tetris block is one of the most inspired edits I've ever seen on youtube. It literally took my breath away when I realized what you were doing. Sorry if this sounds silly, I know it's such a small detail in the overall video, but it really surprised me. excellent job!
It’s always really bothered me that the I, S and Z pieces have visually-identical but functionally-different rotation states since the location of the pivot changes which rotations are possible. It makes it inconsistent getting I pieces across certain walls at high gravity and makes it hard for me to learn S and Z spins for cleanup.
this video is so rewarding to watch, it gave me the chill in a happy when when he said "Tetris' rotation system is broken and i unabashedly love it." This video truly does deserve millions of views with all of its production quality.
When I went to like the video I fully expected to see thousands of thumbs-up, but I was shocked to see there's only about 150 and less than 2,000 views. I REALLY thought this would be at least 20x as popular as it is right now!
I'm glad the algorithm chose to show this to me and I hope it gets picked up and seen by many more people in the future. I've subscribed and hope your channel keeps growing!
(I just hope I'll actually see the notifications... I don't want to lose sight of this channel all because of this website's strange mechanics.)
I wanna find those 2 people who disliked and slap them
Because 99.99999% of world's population hate SRS.
Thankfully now it has 300k views, still very much underrated but not as much as 8 months ago.
As a guy that has been playing VS Tetris for about a year, this was probably one of the best modern Tetris videos I have ever seen. gj man
True though. Most people think of tetris as an old game where you can't go super fast. Modern tetris needs more recognition
It's the flaws in our games that sometimes make us love them so much. The BLJ in sm64, the bunny hop in the half life series and related games, the terrible weirdness that is sonic 06... These flaws are okay because we love them. They make the game fun because you go out of your way to show your friends and family just how flawed these games are. And yes, even the strange spin mechanics of modern tetris games.
You can't say that going to that elevator level and betting your friends you can make a piece go UP and waiting for their reaction isn't one of the purest joys in life.
bruh, quake's fucky physics wound up spawning entire gamemodes in games to be released 30 years later
you have not played sonic 06
@@heartache5742
have you?
Wow. Never would've thought that this video doesn't even have 1000 views. It might as well be a doc with more than a million. Really well made. You've got a sub!
Cant imagine how this gains 13k views now
Cant imagine how this gains 23k views now
cant imagine how this gains 30k now
@@huyen6784 Cant imagine how this gains 40k views now
at least it only has 37 dislikes
Late to the party, but from someone who has been playing tetris for a while, I think this video perfectly encapsulates how wacky SRS. Loved this video, it's criminally underrated.
the bit on seeing t-spin setups as opportunities based on a clean stack - i'm quite impressed at the understanding here. not many people ever get to that point, and it's the same thing that inspired me to start going for more and more complicated things in the game
very epic and high-quality video
big fan
One of Said Experts Identified (14:22) ^^ yo cab
wow cab
too pro
This may not be what I subbed for, but I love it so much.
Glad you liked it! Thank you for giving a chance to this video.
15:55 I cant believe that u actualy skipped time
perfect, yet subtle, jojo reference
found the jojo fan
Watched through the whole video assuming it sat at a few 100k views just based on the subject matter and the insanely high-quality editing. But, lo-and-behold, only 5k. Wow. It really is nuts to think about how much great content goes under the radar on this site. Excellent video.
The King Crimson joke was much appreciated, I should add
I had the same experience with T-Spin brain. My friends and I got into Puyo Puyo tetris battles and I was reborn as a new person when I unlocked that ability subconsciously
Holy **** man. Your editing skills are phenomenal, and I cannot believe that you have less than 1k subs. I'm gonna safely bet that you are an alt of some million-subs youtuber. Top level entertainment and education.
I'm new to tetris, just played Effect for like 2 weeks, and can hardly survive speed 11. Your video, along with so many others, made me love this community and gaming community in general. Keep up the good work!
The fact this has less than 100 views is a crime
now it is 13k views
Now 581k views
Yo. Rando passing through, this is some wild stuff. Never figured, modern tetris has grown and festered to such a degree.
I am impressed and this Video is impressive.
"Then I started to change..."
He's reached enlightment, now he lives his life T-posing for the rest of his life, forever ascertaining dominance over everyone.
Yo, just found your channel thanks to the algorithm and I just had to comment on how amazing your editing is and also how incredibly clear and beautifully explained the whole mechanics of the game is, big kudos to you bud, hope to see you more often in my recommended
17:07 the "spinning pieces forever" part is only on tetris ds, any other guideline tetris game has a limit to spinning a piece on the ground
Used to also work on Tetris Friends
Oh no, it's 100% a quirk of the earliest guideline games. You can also rather easily pull it off in Tetris Worlds, which *established* the guidelines and SRS in the first place.
this video is awesome. i can agree i never try to force the t spins, i just see the setups in my head and im deciding if i should go for it or not. i love how when you learn a new setup and when you see an opportunity to make it mid game and it works, its so rewarding mentally.
okay but the way the different chapters were shown with the title locking down in place was honestly so cool, both the editing and explanation was incredible
Beautifully explained! This was quite entertaining to watch and provided me with some more insight into the SRS (and the cool names that come with t-spin setups). I hope this gets more popular soon!
The amount of editing in this video is unbelievable
Want to comment to boost engagement, this was a really lovely video, and I loved that you were able to make really nice simple explanations for how to recognize a t-spin setup inbetween all the other breakdowns of things regarding the rotation system.
your editing is fantastic
3:10 I didn't expect to see "Built To Scale" here
15:18 “where everything can end in the blink of an eye”
*shows Blink killing Greentea*
no that no blink that harddrip 🥶🥶🥶
is there a method/pattern to the 5 super rotation system checks?
The positions seem kinda random when you explain/go through them in order.
Awesome video man, saw it on the Tetris Effect subreddit. You deserve probably hundreds of thousands of views for this quality of vid, hope you make it there one day!
2:04 I just started a project where I make Tetris from scratch in Java. My plans... check all of those boxes. This segment perfectly describes my planned (lack of) features. I may or may not even include one queued piece.
Have you seen the web browser tetris coded in one tweet? Pretty cool...
11:57 there are 7 actually. mini-t-spin-double is a thing. it either uses that 5th rotation that you mentioned or reverses a normal mini rotation that end up clearing 2 lines.
Oh yea and it crashes a Tetris game in mobile funnily enough
This is a fantastic and really well edited video. You did a great job! Hope you’re proud of your work
this is an incredible representation of the SRS in guideline/modern tetris games. I'm impressed by the editing and quality.
edit: the way you learned how to tspin freestyle really really shows how amazing it feels to learn tspins. subscribed!
I've been looking for a video to explain spin mechanics, and this video was so masterfully produced. You made it easy to understand and entertaining. Thanks so much man!
The subject is interesting, but what I am most mesmerized with is the montage, VFX and sound design of this video. Fantastically realised! I especially like the tiny song popup on the top left hand corner.
okay but can we just talk about the king crimson joke that was absolute gold
Another banger!
Honest to God 10/10 vid. The ending alone was just amazing. I haven't played effect, but I have a feeling that this vid has a very similar feel. This deserves way more attention than it has
As someone who knows a fair amount of SRS spins, this video is actually really interesting. I knew how to do thing but i never understood how they actually worked. This video is really interesting and I didn’t catch anything incorrect, but there are some really weird spins that would be cool to see.
What a fucking video. 20/10 never seen anything like it.
Absolutely top notch video. Beautifully animated, beautifully told, perfect editing, I cannot say enough about this vid.
I learnt something new today and was engage throughout the entire video. Fantastic work and lastly, thank you for creating this.
Great video. I'm not into gaming and haven't played Tetris since early 90s, but somehow you kept me engaged and interested. Good work, I hope your channel blows up!
By the amount of effort put in this video, I would say you earn a lot more subs. I love the video and I share your opinion. The elevator part got my mind blown!
Love your videos man, really high quality.
I'm absolutely in love with the motion graphics you did for this. Very nice work!
I already liked the video, but the superb editing made me have to subscribe. keep it up man! love the tetris block style intros to each chapter and the way you counted down the Tetris style guide year
11:57 lmao he dosen't realize mini t spin doubles are possible look at this fool
In all seriousness, amazing video, I was shocked when I saw how low the view and sub count was, you're INCREDIBLY underrated
Don't worry I don't think the Tetris company realised mini T-spin doubles are possible either
@@Oshisaure True I guess, but he DID mention godspin
15:57 Quality
The editing in this video is impeccable. Well done!
it's always a treat to see a well-crafted video from a small youtuber i've never heard of show up in my recommendations. 10/10 you earned a subscriber
I’ve recently hit U rank and honestly did not know the technical aspect of how kicking worked. You explaining SRR for a bit made me instantly realised why things such as triple tspins worked. Not only that, this video is so well edited, and glad to see this video is reaching a huge audience, I’m a bit late but well done
Your editing style is amazing
Awesome video. Thankful that YT showed it to me. I am much more of a Classic Tetris Fan (CTWC is happening right now… hint hint ;P) but this explains Modern in a way that is very easy to understand. Subbed!
I have no idea if it is just because I'm really tired right now but how you present it, how I felt nostalgic reminded how I learned all of this as well, how relateable it was, how you talk and the soundtrack on top gave me some wet eyes. This is the type of video you show when you want to tell someone why the hell you like tetris so much.
This video is amazing…I don’t even play Tetris but I’m so invested
3:44 It still hurts that TGM4 never got past location testing all those years ago.
3:10
its a refrence to rhythm heaven for the ds
The king crimson part getting skipped forward is one of the best things i’ve seen all day
im so glad this popped up in my recommendation... this has to be one of my favorite videos that discusses tetris mechanically. thank you for making this!
amazing video, i was expecting the 3rd part of nitrome's games but this is even better, also exelent editing. 10/10
this dude is like the exact opposite of me, whenever I take any amount of time away from tetris I suck ass when I come back
This is a wonderfully produced video ! From voice, editing and script. Thank you for this (:
This looked like fun to edit! Great vid, always good to see some tetris love. Can't wait to see what you make next.
Damn dude, I've been tryharding tetris for like 3 years now and I'm at about best 2000 players in the world of modern tetris (by tetrio ranking system), but I've been feeling really down lately because I stopped improving and felt a little bit depressed every time I played tetris, but you have reignited my love for this game and reminded me about why it's so awesome. Thanks for the beast of a video, hope you'll blow up soon!
0:35 actually i would recommend not giving sexual abusers views
Nick Robinson was fired from Polygon for repeated harassment and generally being a shitty person
Any evidence on that?
He already has 188m channel views, doubt he's being found out through this video
the editing and research that went into this is is amazing, it might as well be an official documentary. i can't believe you only have 1k subs. i'm glad that i'm adding to that number today, keep it up!
dude you deserve more subscribers, this video explaining about something that I never would've had thought of, would get me to play tetris again, great job dud.
this week ive seen a lot of VERY high quality videos from people with less than 10k subscribers, its crazy. im glad that the algorithm is giving you guys some love. Great video man!
This is a great video. Legit, out of all videos I've seen to try to understand the spin system, this is honestly the best one. Now it's just time for me to kind of memorise and learn what I need to do in order to make some of these crazy spins and increase my speed. Thanks a ton for this video!
This is one of the most well-edited video I've seen in a long time, great job! you got a new sub ( :
That slot-into-place title text is a very nice touch. Subbed!
I literally tried to like this three times while watching the video. Please continue making this good stuff.
Incredible video explaining a very complicated system in a very understandable way, and with great production quality.
Keep it up!
I'm mindblown by the quality of this video ! I've learn so much and I didn't saw the 18min passing !
I played Tetris after watching this video... started off terribly, but somehow got a mini T-spin and a mini T-spin single AND beat my personal best by 60k!
oh and also cool vid
This was beautifully made, thoughtful, and original. Well done
incredible editing, the transition for the art of t spins were insane
The editing of this video is insane! Keep up the good work dude :)
These are fantastic quality videos. Subscribed!
i like how tetris effect, yknow, one of the current flagship official versions, completely ignores the design rules about colours/patterns :P
This video was amazing, the editing was flawless and the script was very informative, I hope to see more good videos from you in the future, instant sub
That video is what introduced me to Nick‘s channel. And I followed his deep journeys ever since.
How is it possible that this channel only has 7k subscribers, it's pure madness
This video's production quality is through the roof! You deserve more views and subs!
8:35 Shoutout to Simpleflips for being one of the great martial artists of T-Spins.
love the intro and outro transition with the music, feels like a movie
I just love this video so much! It’s a beautiful essay!
You entertained me for 18 minutes with tetris, good job bro.
This editing is SO GOOD. Best vid so far (watched like 13 videos hahaha) Great work!
What a beautiful, informing video. kudos!
Great video! I'm really surprised that you don't have more subscribers, your content is such high quality.