Why are classic Tetris pros "slower" than modern Tetris pros?

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  • čas přidán 28. 05. 2024
  • A few of you were asking for more insight into what Trey Harrison thought of Tetris Effect. Here's that, plus answers to a few more questions I've seen about last week's video. Enjoy!
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  • @DonaldFromKingdomHearts
    @DonaldFromKingdomHearts Před 5 lety +6619

    Not a trace of elitism. I really respect that guy. He was so open for new things, even I was surprised.

    • @wizardsmix7961
      @wizardsmix7961 Před 5 lety +186

      Shows he loves the game, not just that he loves being good at the game

    • @apollojustice5338
      @apollojustice5338 Před 4 lety +40

      Yunz06 indeed! Unlike a certain person who looks like Crackhead John Wick......

    • @nwohellfire5299
      @nwohellfire5299 Před 4 lety +23

      Yeah I thought he would be like... "This game is too different. Stick to the original"

    • @funnychimp7738
      @funnychimp7738 Před 4 lety +1

      Captain Chaz Who are you talking about?

    • @weegle.
      @weegle. Před 4 lety

      @@funnychimp7738 The....pro

  • @PhirePhlame
    @PhirePhlame Před 5 lety +4385

    I think the other big thing that makes classic Tetris players seem slower is the fact that classic Tetris doesn't have the hard drop that instantly snaps a piece to the bottom. Naturally that guy wouldn't be too used to that.

    • @Telamon8
      @Telamon8 Před 4 lety +117

      *Technically* the original Tetris, the Soviet Elektronika 60 variant, does have that ability to instantly drop blocks to the bottom. But yes, the versions outside of the Soviet variants omitted that feature for the longest while.

    • @spuddie
      @spuddie Před 4 lety +101

      ​@@TKFTGuillotine It's been months but the reason why he isnt used to soft dropping either, is that in competitive classic Tetris, the pieces already move very rapidly as in competitions its the standard to start out at level 18 speed, at level 18 speed, blocks drop a row every 3 frames, and with methodical smart placement being key, it wouldnt be smart to shorten the already short time you have by using the pushdown. I want to say most competitive tetris players dont use soft drops or push down, with the exception of a few. Hope that cleared it up.

    • @alvexas5510
      @alvexas5510 Před 4 lety +1

      Trevor Martin is you soft drop things down on night speed it’ll lock easier if you accidentally hit the bottom

    • @firebrain2991
      @firebrain2991 Před 4 lety +13

      @@spuddie You would be right that outside of speedrun format, if a player regularly presses down in competition (I think ITZsharky does that), it's a notable trait and is usually done for psychological reasons, as the soft-drop bonuses are considered to be negligible in terms of points

    • @fnjesusfreak
      @fnjesusfreak Před 4 lety

      Spectrum Holobyte's version and Microsoft's version did in fact have that.

  • @Frt660
    @Frt660 Před 5 lety +5788

    You forgot to mention the single most important difference between classic and modern tetris : THE RANDOMIZER. Modern tetris will give you each of the 7 tetriminoes one after the other in random order, whereas classic tetris is entirely random, making getting shit like 10 Z pieces in a row a real (albeit unlikely) thing.
    Anyone who's played tetris enough knows that classic tetris players choose efficiency and elegance over speed, and that it's equally as impressive.

    • @planetfrank1994
      @planetfrank1994 Před 5 lety +488

      This. The RNG is the main difference imo, and really changes the entire way you play the game. I actually wish there's a modern Tetris game that has that old randomizer back. I love NEStris but I can't get the right equipment to play it properly...

    • @kitsunepryde507
      @kitsunepryde507 Před 5 lety +52

      i used to play tetris in those 9999 in 1 as a kid, but after this video i kinda wanna play again, you have some recomandation on what should i get?

    • @flmalegre
      @flmalegre Před 5 lety +4

      ch-ris127 b-but muh easy perfect cleaaaaars

    • @johnfrancisdoe1563
      @johnfrancisdoe1563 Před 5 lety +4

      QRnd So there aren't any straight ports of the classic code like there was for older PC systems?

    • @flmalegre
      @flmalegre Před 5 lety +7

      John Francis Doe Nullpomino has loads of rulesets, one of them may be the one you're looking for.
      The NES one is there, for sure.

  • @madscribbles7280
    @madscribbles7280 Před 5 lety +3319

    Another point I think everybody missed, the stereoscopic view in VR mode gives everything its own visual depth in 3D space so it would have helped him visually separate the particle effects from the playing field, making it less of a distraction, which could be a big contributor to why he would play better.

    • @babylonian
      @babylonian  Před 5 lety +376

      This is a great point!

    • @15coals39
      @15coals39 Před 5 lety +10

      So very true!

    • @xyfghter99
      @xyfghter99 Před 5 lety +105

      VR also allows your brain to focus your attention fully on to the task at hand without any distractions from you environment. (except the particles) This is actually an great example for the performance difference you can expect from the human brain when it isn't splitting resources as much.

    • @madscribbles7280
      @madscribbles7280 Před 5 lety +24

      Also very true. In fact that's where I thought he was going when he first started explaining his latency idea. I imagine all three are contributing factors.

    • @HugoStiglitz88
      @HugoStiglitz88 Před 5 lety +5

      100%
      I honestly thought they were going to say that before pointing out the refresh rate because I'm not even sure if this game is 120 FPS or if it just uses time warp to match the displays 120 Hz.

  • @toddhoward5555
    @toddhoward5555 Před 5 lety +1833

    Yes he gets it. Tetris doesn't have to be 100% seriously played all the time.
    This is an opportunity to take that same basic game from 30+ years ago and mix it up for a different experience. Add synesthesia and make it evoke new emotions.
    Great vid, Nick. Loved every bit of it.

    • @lalboimanlun1230
      @lalboimanlun1230 Před 4 lety +9

      And the classic Tetris pro looks like he travelled time from the past. His mannerism, looks and knowledge of the modern Tetris just feels like he came from the past.

    • @AkashCherukuri
      @AkashCherukuri Před 3 lety +3

      Thank you, todd howard

    • @menelik6635
      @menelik6635 Před 3 lety +1

      @@AkashCherukuri I was just about to say the same thing

    • @procyon6445
      @procyon6445 Před 3 lety +1

      Now buy skyrim remastered remake golden edition for the ps5.

  • @Mr3344555
    @Mr3344555 Před 5 lety +753

    Its like a pilot telling a renowned sea captain hes not agile enough... Are the two of you in the same league?

    • @SuperAWaC
      @SuperAWaC Před 5 lety +8

      pin this

    • @ironpro7217
      @ironpro7217 Před 5 lety +58

      Mr3344555 its more like a pilot telling a renowned sea captain he's a bad pilot, tetris effect is a lot more similar to the modern tetris games than nes (srs,hold,7 bag), so when judging his skill at tetris effect,you should compare him to people who play modern tetris games,not NES tetris.

    • @SuperAWaC
      @SuperAWaC Před 5 lety +9

      except he's not bad

    • @VanguardJester
      @VanguardJester Před 5 lety +29

      To change a version of a game you are used to, except for rare exceptions, is like adjusting to a new world. There are different elements, new laws of physics you have to adapt to. His tetris was adapted to precision and foresight while modern tetris trains someone for reaction, timing, and flexibility. The two of these are such different play styles that it would be insulting to compare the two! it's like eating an apple and going "WAIT A SECOND!! THIS ISN'T MY CARROT!!" or having some nice soup and saying "THIS ISN'T CRUNCHY ENOUGH!!!"
      You can't see someone's skill, if you aren't applying the same rules.

    • @trondordoesstuff
      @trondordoesstuff Před 4 lety +7

      No, it's like a passenger of a great pilot telling the renowned sea captain he's not agile enough.

  • @danielbueno8474
    @danielbueno8474 Před 5 lety +1607

    BOOM! Decahexatris for Trey.

    • @sadladd
      @sadladd Před 5 lety +59

      tetris for je🅱️🅱️

    • @FerSave1
      @FerSave1 Před 5 lety +1

      unoriginal.

    • @danielbueno8474
      @danielbueno8474 Před 5 lety +9

      FerSave Don't forget "unnecessary", too! :D

    • @cosmicjenny4508
      @cosmicjenny4508 Před 5 lety +5

      Boom, getting annoyed by a joke in the reply section for FerSave, Daniel Bueno, and decay18.

    • @99Nights100
      @99Nights100 Před 5 lety +3

      Fuck the negativity this made me laugh 😂

  • @brandonbarker8495
    @brandonbarker8495 Před 5 lety +1311

    I'm pretty decent at modern Tetris, but I can't play gb/nes Tetris to save my life. Totally get what you're saying.

    • @babylonian
      @babylonian  Před 5 lety +193

      Same here! I remember going to a bar once that had an NES and Tetris, and being shocked by how ridiculously hard it felt, as a guy who played a ton of Tetris DS

    • @KaliTakumi
      @KaliTakumi Před 5 lety +6

      Wait, is GB Tetris not modern Tetris? That's the only one I've played

    • @maribakumon
      @maribakumon Před 5 lety +50

      Kali Takumi Tetris on Gameboy is almost exactly the same as NES Tetris.

    • @nitendoraku3631
      @nitendoraku3631 Před 5 lety +6

      I found the old original Gameboy Tetris, to be much easier after playing Tetris the Grand Master. I've never played the NES version though.
      Just goes to show though that everyone is different.

    • @KaliTakumi
      @KaliTakumi Před 5 lety +1

      I still have the GB version actually

  • @damnrney
    @damnrney Před 5 lety +1001

    WAIT. Are you telling me that music from when he hit the decahexatris in the previous video was in game??
    i’m emotional again.

    • @KeithMyers2022
      @KeithMyers2022 Před 5 lety +7

      You should get the Pre Order it comes with a music sampler and the music sounds fantastic

    • @NeoJ4K3
      @NeoJ4K3 Před 4 lety

      @@KeithMyers2022 was it a download or CD?

    • @KeithMyers2022
      @KeithMyers2022 Před 4 lety +1

      @@NeoJ4K3 a download sampler i have no clue if its still available,

    • @paulsd9255
      @paulsd9255 Před 3 lety

      And now the album is finally out

  • @JustinY.
    @JustinY. Před 5 lety +8683

    I'm still shocked that you're the guy who uploaded "How to beat a walmart security tag"

  • @paynnn9977
    @paynnn9977 Před 5 lety +583

    I'm a Tetris Battle/Tetris Friends player I'm aware that 1990's tetris is harder and played that way, i'm glad the misunderstanding is now cleared here.

    • @Firepal3D
      @Firepal3D Před 5 lety

      That game's website has such little support...

    • @yoink6299
      @yoink6299 Před 5 lety +1

      Firepal64 lol true

    • @Copper-P
      @Copper-P Před 5 lety +7

      @@Firepal3D Especially a year in the future, where its gone.

    • @Firepal3D
      @Firepal3D Před 5 lety +1

      @@Copper-P WHATTTTT

    • @Copper-P
      @Copper-P Před 5 lety +3

      @@Firepal3D Yeah it was shut down on the 31st of may

  • @jamin5767
    @jamin5767 Před 5 lety +4785

    The game better come with a battle royale mode

    • @asura5819
      @asura5819 Před 5 lety +207

      jamin Tetris: Battle royale. Sounds about right.

    • @Lucky-lt7lz
      @Lucky-lt7lz Před 5 lety +87

      multiple words... buyo buyo betris

    • @SAM-ru4vx
      @SAM-ru4vx Před 5 lety +26

      battle tetris gaiden.

    • @mr.games5883
      @mr.games5883 Před 5 lety +51

      jamin the maps are cube camp, blocky bay, corner cove, row ranch, and my personal favorite Tetris towers.

    • @mr.games5883
      @mr.games5883 Před 5 lety +18

      Whoops I forgot shapey shafts and Turning town.

  • @llSuperSnivyll
    @llSuperSnivyll Před 4 lety +482

    Classic Tetris has no hard drop, no hold, no twists, no ghost pieces, only a single piece preview and no 7-bag randomizer. Of course Classic Tetris experts play much slower than Modern Tetris experts - they are used to a much slower version where they are not able to think too far ahead. On the other hand, making a Modern Tetris expert play a Classic Tetris game would see them fumbling around the unpredictable randomizer and the greatly limited preview.

    • @kooliooolio
      @kooliooolio Před 3 lety +11

      blaarg got his first maxout after playing for 3 weeks, and he was pretty good with guideline

    • @Blink.M2Dev
      @Blink.M2Dev Před 3 lety +14

      A good Tetris player doesn’t need any preview, in fact, I rarely ever looked at it unless I was looking for the long piece which did not appear often. It was also off entirely in certain instances. The drop is faster while pressing up, not instant but not really that slow. I never understood why people think playing Tetris faster means you are good at it. Modern Tetris seems to give you the pieces you need and a huge preview, where original Tetris you rarely got the piece you wanted, or got 6 of the same piece in a row which made the preview nearly irrelevant anyway. When modern Tetris players fail at original Tetris it isn’t because of speed or fumbling around, it’s because original Tetris is actually much harder because of the randomizer code. Which throws modern players off, I’ve personally seen them get frustrated, throw a tantrum, and say omg I can’t play this it’s giving me shit pieces. Noooo you were just spoiled before and now you are playing real Tetris lol.

    • @svendinsvinderlin4569
      @svendinsvinderlin4569 Před 3 lety +74

      @@Blink.M2Dev Get over yourself it's a puzzle game.

    • @ShadowLimited310
      @ShadowLimited310 Před 2 lety +8

      Check out the Japanese players Koryan and Greentea, they are Tetris Grandmasters and where able to translate their skills to classic Tetris pretty well. I mean they trained for months but skills do translate

    • @jacobmarshall5391
      @jacobmarshall5391 Před 2 lety

      @luminote you're the kind of guy, who makes fun of a guy, for having an, pretty valid, opinion.

  • @dandanthedandan7558
    @dandanthedandan7558 Před 5 lety +795

    Wait a minute... *YOU'RE THAT GUY WHO FLEW ALL THE WAY TO JAPAN TO FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENED TO A CZcams VIDEO?!!!*
    no wonder you were in my recommended :P

    • @panzerguitar00
      @panzerguitar00 Před 5 lety +5

      DANDAN THE DANDAN Can you tell me what the video is called?

    • @dandanthedandan7558
      @dandanthedandan7558 Před 5 lety +23

      Jacob Best the Domino's Pizza Hatsune Miku one that is featured at the end of the video

    • @dandanthedandan7558
      @dandanthedandan7558 Před 5 lety +24

      I honestly thought it was another guy. I mean, vocaloid and Tetris are miles apart... that's why I was shocked to suddenly realize they're the same guy lol

    • @WittyMick03
      @WittyMick03 Před 5 lety +1

      Holy crap it is.

    • @jiinkC
      @jiinkC Před 5 lety +1

      O snap it's that guy

  • @vernonbenton7476
    @vernonbenton7476 Před 5 lety +267

    I just love his sincerity in the interview. It could just be I don't watch many gamer interviews, but this guy means literally every word he says and it's awesome

  • @gikle8354
    @gikle8354 Před 5 lety +1769

    Everyone saying he’s slow stfu... he’s new to modern Tetris and old Tetris is so much harder and he is used to it

    • @kota69420
      @kota69420 Před 4 lety +29

      LolyJr Does Things it depends

    • @kota69420
      @kota69420 Před 4 lety +69

      LolyJr Does Things it requires more reaction time same with modern but modern has very important techniques to learn. Though classic gets super fast and you need absolutely fast inputs and reaction time, which I find haeder

    • @kota69420
      @kota69420 Před 4 lety +13

      LolyJr Does Things well Tetris 99 is actually very different from modern. I see that you can get past level 9 but mainly Tetris 99 requires clean and fast building. Tafokints says the you should grind sprint or 40l until about 1:30 minutes at that point you will usually get into the top 20. But if you grind to around 40-59 seconds. You will be winning most of your Tetris 99 games

    • @Keezawea
      @Keezawea Před 4 lety +5

      @@thesleepstate what.

    • @Pickelrye
      @Pickelrye Před 4 lety +4

      Commas ( , ) don't exist.

  • @wangsheng_official
    @wangsheng_official Před 5 lety +559

    i'm gonna wait for someone who can do a _back-to-back _*_decahexatris_*

    • @bachhongoc6461
      @bachhongoc6461 Před 5 lety +3

      If you can do it once, you can probably do it again I think. Or maybe it will not be that simple idk .-.

    • @Joseg19988426
      @Joseg19988426 Před 3 lety +4

      Try watching Wumbo play Tetris effect.

    • @polygonaltree1566
      @polygonaltree1566 Před 3 lety

      Back-to-back ultimatris (20 lines)

    • @carro179
      @carro179 Před 3 lety +1

      @@polygonaltree1566 B2B Imposibilitris (22 lines). I mean, someone has already done it normally, so surely someone can do it B2B

    • @someone-iv2nt
      @someone-iv2nt Před 3 lety +2

      Hi hu tao

  • @AKImeru
    @AKImeru Před 5 lety +327

    I actually though the first video was from IGN and was blow away from it. "Woah IGN really stepped their game up, this was a fun watch".
    But nope, it was the Miku Domino's Investigative guy.
    This was when I realized that I love this channel and hate youtube for burying your channel. The first video got recommended when I was doing an e3 binge and nowhere to be seen on my sub feed.

    • @marcowashere1615
      @marcowashere1615 Před 5 lety +7

      AKImeru >IGN
      >Good video
      Choose one.

    • @JayAreAitch
      @JayAreAitch Před 5 lety +9

      Marco Leacche Denti >greentexting on CZcams

    • @DuniaTrollAnda
      @DuniaTrollAnda Před 5 lety

      Lol. I died when you said 'Miku's Domino Investigate guy'.

  • @ilikecookies230
    @ilikecookies230 Před 5 lety +217

    I feel like a mini docu series with your commentary over it is the PERFECT niche for your channel. The editing, music choice and the writing that you do for commentary is entertaining. Keep it up

  • @Adrot
    @Adrot Před 5 lety +144

    Who would have expected such a deep commentary from something so minimalistic as Tetris? You did it again, and it's beautiful.

  • @zirion8446
    @zirion8446 Před 5 lety +424

    There is no reason to create a new "competitive/tournament/hardcore" tetris game, this was already made, 30 years ago. The developers are trying to capture the almost meditative aspect of the game, and apparently they are doing a really good job.

    • @PKWinning07
      @PKWinning07 Před 5 lety +14

      Ribas Daniel People would be drooling over TGM4 but the fucking Tetris guidelines is why Tetris has become mechnically stagnated.

    • @kylem.7466
      @kylem.7466 Před 5 lety

      Ribas Daniel Yeah, he already said that, and so did the older player😑

    • @kylem.7466
      @kylem.7466 Před 5 lety

      K.Louis That and their being so many versions of Tetris, as well as the retro gaming overload the gameing industry is going through.

    • @AirLancer
      @AirLancer Před 5 lety +23

      That's about as dumb as saying there's no reason to create a new meditative, relaxing, visually exciting Tetris game.

    • @Smurdle450
      @Smurdle450 Před 5 lety +26

      And now, I present Tetris 99.

  • @SEF84
    @SEF84 Před 5 lety +153

    Thank you for pointing out that the classic Tetris is CLASSIC Tetris than Tetris Grand Master or Tetris Friends/Battle/PPT, in my opinion each game need their own expertise and have their own experts with Trey being one in classic Tetris. And also thank you for making this follow up video, I have the same question in mind when I first watched the previous video. Keep up the good work!

  • @MicroPretzel
    @MicroPretzel Před 5 lety +474

    Nice follow up video, and good info for people that don't know much about the NES version. People don't know how different the gameplay, techniques and difficulty are :p, I encourage people to watch some classic tetris world championships, it's actually great to watch. "BOOM, Tetris for Jeff!"

    • @risethevillaingaming2901
      @risethevillaingaming2901 Před 5 lety +6

      Friend A After watching his original video I ended up watching some Tetris Tournaments and they were actually pretty interesting.

    • @danielbueno8474
      @danielbueno8474 Před 5 lety +8

      Friend A Yes! Those NES Tetris competitive matches are usually so _NEK N NEK,_ especially because of many smart _PLACE PIECEMENTS._ XD
      But seriously, competitive NES Tetris is surprisingly exciting.

    • @ronster1703
      @ronster1703 Před 5 lety +5

      P I E C E M E N T P L A C E S

    • @FyrenRei
      @FyrenRei Před 5 lety

      There it is

    • @ronster1703
      @ronster1703 Před 5 lety +3

      Where's the long bar? ... BOOM!

  • @liriosogno6762
    @liriosogno6762 Před 5 lety +769

    Oh man trey is such a nice dude!!
    And he is super handsome

  • @Oshisaure
    @Oshisaure Před 5 lety +773

    Oh dang my silly spiny experiment stuff thing made it there whoa

  • @Noja8787
    @Noja8787 Před 5 lety +142

    I agree with the particle effects. I hope they let us turn it down in the options.

    • @Firestar-rm8df
      @Firestar-rm8df Před 5 lety +28

      I hope there is a slider and I can increase it :)

    • @GyariSan1
      @GyariSan1 Před 5 lety +1

      I’m sure they are hearing the feedback and will probably fix on release or patch it down the line :)

    • @neromauritzen8917
      @neromauritzen8917 Před 5 lety +13

      Firestar9114 *INCREASES PARTICLES 100000 PERCENT*
      HAIL PARTICLES! *Cant see shit of the game but loving those particle effects*

    • @Firestar-rm8df
      @Firestar-rm8df Před 5 lety +8

      Exactly, @Nero Mauritzen gets it (¬‿¬ )

    • @Ethorbit
      @Ethorbit Před 5 lety +1

      Nero Mauritzen Tetris: particle edition

  • @MSZ
    @MSZ Před 5 lety +293

    This video is so emotional man I’m gonna cry.

    • @15coals39
      @15coals39 Před 5 lety +7

      MSZ I thought the first one was more so, because it was his very first time with modern technology.

    • @Brain-washed2
      @Brain-washed2 Před 5 lety +3

      "Not to get too fake deep or anything"

    • @Immadeus
      @Immadeus Před 5 lety +2

      @@15coals39 not really, it was his first time with a ps4

    • @Jeremy-jm3fe
      @Jeremy-jm3fe Před 5 lety

      15 coals Lmao, I'm pretty sure Trey has a modern PC and a smartphone. I doubt he's a caveman who exclusively uses old technology.

  • @333dae
    @333dae Před 5 lety +151

    trey is like the anti-gatekeeper persona

    • @babylonian
      @babylonian  Před 5 lety +41

      i think that's a perfect way of putting it. he has such a great attitude and open mind about something he clearly loves a lot! we should all aspire to be like him, imo

  • @nkanyisoinnocentkhwane3752
    @nkanyisoinnocentkhwane3752 Před 5 lety +1459

    Whaaat? A part 2? Well that settles it, *I've gotta hit that subscribe button* Even if I get 1 documentary every couple of months I'd be happy, I've really enjoyed your Dominos & Tetris videos so getting you closer to 100K is my pleasure

  • @interrexclamacion
    @interrexclamacion Před 5 lety +43

    I agree being someone who plays Modern Tetris that classic Tetris to the billion times harder I probably play faster than Trey but if I were to pick up an NES Tetris and play it I would look like in an unexperienced player

  • @AidanROTF
    @AidanROTF Před 5 lety +77

    You can tell how genuinely excited you are about certain things in the little quiver in your voice. It's really infectious honestly, although I already love tetris the hitman (a game I don't care much about) video you did got me actually pumped for you. I seems you have found the format that makes you happy and I think it comes across in the videos. Keep it up because I am enjoying your enjoyment :)

    • @15coals39
      @15coals39 Před 5 lety +1

      Aidan ROTF I agree, I am new to his channel and I like this style.

  • @nekocrumch7768
    @nekocrumch7768 Před 5 lety +34

    These two videos made me remember why I loved classic Tetris. Gotta brush off the old NES

  • @ElijahPickleFISH96
    @ElijahPickleFISH96 Před 5 lety +15

    Can we PLEASE get more videos like this? I love these semi-documentary videos. Your commentary makes it 100 times better too.

  • @jon664_
    @jon664_ Před 5 lety +34

    Never touched a Tetris game in my life but I found both parts of this really interesting

    • @kristofer1004
      @kristofer1004 Před 4 lety +3

      Press X to doubt

    • @johnbob914
      @johnbob914 Před 4 lety +3

      Who has never played Tetris, you can play it for free online

    • @rynne7153
      @rynne7153 Před 4 lety

      @@johnbob914 I actually just started playing a little very recently, after watching classic and modern pros playing.
      It looks very interesting and the community surrounding these games are so warm.

  • @kingcrimzen5349
    @kingcrimzen5349 Před 5 lety +419

    Yeah I agree the games music is god tire and it’s visually amazing so I guess that’s what sold the game for me.

    • @nitendoraku3631
      @nitendoraku3631 Před 5 lety +6

      Unfortunately for me, I find the music (at least that song) to be God damn awful. So I'll probably skip getting this game to avoid the cringe.
      Music is a big part of the gaming experience for me, so turning the music off isn't an option.

    • @smug303
      @smug303 Před 5 lety +3

      Cat Lover They meant to say "tier"

    • @F0X_H0UND
      @F0X_H0UND Před 5 lety +33

      Sometimes I put god tires on my truck so that when i'm going 100 through a school zone, I can't be stopped by spike strips.

    • @MrCholoPants3415
      @MrCholoPants3415 Před 5 lety

      Hurricane
      Not sure why, but that kinda got me kek

    • @lucio-ohs8828
      @lucio-ohs8828 Před 5 lety +1

      Niten Dōraku you’re not gonna get it because of the music? Turn it off and find music on CZcams, simple

  • @Zonical
    @Zonical Před 5 lety +69

    Wait a moment, are you the guy who went to Domino's headquarters to find out what happened to the Hatsune Miku promotion ad? Man, no doubt why you were on my recommened videos list! Gotta subscribe at a heightened pace

    • @flmalegre
      @flmalegre Před 5 lety +5

      Zonical 413 Nick has... rather varied accolades to his name, yes.

  • @jc-fx3rp
    @jc-fx3rp Před 5 lety +27

    Wow I haven't touched my copy of tetris (nes version) in a lot of time and I always felt something was off when playing grandmaster and this vid finally explained why I felt like that. Thanks Nick

  • @SotNist
    @SotNist Před 5 lety +12

    Love the videos you're putting out lately, man. Great angles and subjects.

  • @SYNFPVPILOT
    @SYNFPVPILOT Před 2 lety +6

    "Tetris doesn't have to be a serious game" - This. What a humble, down to earth dude. I really enjoyed these videos. Well done 👏 👍🏻

  • @canaldemarte6577
    @canaldemarte6577 Před 3 lety +4

    I can't belive the face that Rikka Takanashi posted a coment on that vídeo

  • @Sharklops
    @Sharklops Před 5 lety +11

    These two Tetris videos showed up on my recommended list and I'm really glad they did! Just subscribed and am really looking forward to more of this sort of content. Cheers

    • @VictorTheLegend
      @VictorTheLegend Před 5 lety

      Sharky Sharklops same! Looks like a great channel!

  • @ADTribalChild
    @ADTribalChild Před 5 lety +12

    Kudos, Nick, for releasing the continuation of the last vid. Trey is really down to Earth and it feels good that he gave the new Tetris his blessing.
    I'm not competitive Tetris player myself but I do recognized that every game ever made is different and with my own personal experience very therapeutic. I'm really looking forward to playing Tetris Effect myself. Just watching the trailer itself kinda put me in a Zen-like transe that want me wanted more.

  • @mateonunez1417
    @mateonunez1417 Před 5 lety

    You've got my subscription man. I really enjoyed the thoughtfulness that went into these videos. It's clear they weren't made just to fill a quota of releasing videos, it's clear that you really wanted to convey an experience and provide viewers with insight! keep it up

  • @RainbowDark
    @RainbowDark Před 5 lety +2

    Thanks for the follow-up, really needed that to really get how his experience was like, tbh? Worth a subscription

  • @mackstertube
    @mackstertube Před 5 lety +28

    Trey seems like a top bloke. It is great to nice nature friendly older players than some of the immature idiots that can give gaming a bad name. We need more players like Trey on pro gaming.

  • @Alan-jv5fq
    @Alan-jv5fq Před 5 lety +41

    Tetris effect sounds disturbingly similar to Tetris for Jeff

  • @mustachewalrus
    @mustachewalrus Před 5 lety +1

    I'm still blown away by all your content, can't wait for more. I've said it before, but it's very refreshing the variety of stuff you have and the avenue you take it down. The path less taken, continue to be greatness.

    • @babylonian
      @babylonian  Před 5 lety +1

      Thanks! Loved your commentary in the livestream chat earlier too hahah

  • @mjreyno
    @mjreyno Před 5 lety +4

    Thank you Trey and Nick! :)
    We love it!

  • @KiIowatt
    @KiIowatt Před 5 lety +9

    Thanks for this. I was one of the guys asking for his input.

  • @ahigh
    @ahigh Před 5 lety +14

    Great job covering important topics for competitive skill-based gaming as well as the relevance of low latencies in VR displays as it relates to skill-based gaming.

  • @Mache.
    @Mache. Před 5 lety +2

    Subscribed now, I thought I did few days ago when I watched the first video. I'm sure you're one of the best content creators on the rise right now, and you really deserved to appear in the recommended box of every one of us. Thank you!

  • @peterdafox
    @peterdafox Před 5 lety +1

    You've done it. 100 k subs. Congrats Nick. You genuinely inspire me, thank you for the joy and positivity you put forward into the world.

  • @bearyboy9088
    @bearyboy9088 Před 5 lety +13

    Wow this video answered all questions I had from the last one

  • @traplover6357
    @traplover6357 Před 5 lety +31

    God, these documentary-like videos are just so intriguing.

  • @randomassguy
    @randomassguy Před 5 lety

    I watched the fist part of this video and really enjoyed it, I saw this in my recommended watched and enjoyed but what made me subscribe was when you said that these are the kind of videos you would be focusing going forward, that line got me hooked man, eager to see more!

  • @nitronfr
    @nitronfr Před 5 lety +5

    holy i just finish watching the first video !! you are so talented at making video like this keep it up !!

  • @yunseaweed
    @yunseaweed Před 5 lety +17

    It was really so nice seeing an expert's opinion on Tetris. And the game itself looks so beautiful, too....
    Now I want a PlayStation VR.
    But I'm broke.

    • @firepower7017
      @firepower7017 Před 5 lety +1

      Yun All I got are classic consoles. I mean I wanna see what new consoles have but I don't got the money

    • @sweetberries4611
      @sweetberries4611 Před 5 lety +1

      @@firepower7017 lucky, I don't and didn't have any console at all

  • @snebr
    @snebr Před 3 lety +6

    Doesn't even touch on the biggest difference between the two games: the seven bag randomizer, srs, and kick table. Also modern tetris is much more focused on sending lines to your opponent efficiently with t-spins and downstacking efficiently while competitive classic tetris is focused on getting a high score and surviving for a while. People who imply that classic is "harder" than modern because it is easier to survive are missing the whole point.

  • @DanishValkyrie
    @DanishValkyrie Před 5 lety

    I really liked this video, and particularly the ending. Looking forward to more of this deep stuff, I deffnitely have to check out more from Nick Robinson and Trey Harrison.

  • @brettcameratraveler
    @brettcameratraveler Před 5 lety

    Looking forward to seeing more of these documentaries. You have a talent for crafting stories.

  • @Vampireangel151617
    @Vampireangel151617 Před 5 lety +63

    I was sitting here wondering why people were fussing about him not playing cleanly or fast.
    I stopped playing Tetris after the NES and Gameboy versions. I tried one of them and it just felt different and I didn't like it. I still go back to my gameboy version at times, but I don't see myself playing the newer games unless it is to verse someone else that challenged me at that specific game.
    Now after seeing the few replays you put in this video, I do see why people said that, but... Those aren't the same game. I agree that the original was unforgiving and I really liked that about the game. Saving blocks for later? I don't think I like that feature.

    • @HugoStiglitz88
      @HugoStiglitz88 Před 5 lety +1

      Yea I played Tetris on PS4, the one that came out and had online issues LOL and I was terrible at it because I'm used to gameboy color Tetris. Tetris Effect I got the hang of quickly though because it's better in VR. I feel like on a flat screen it's harder to play because you don't see the whole screen as easily as with a gameboy or VR headset on.

    • @alfonzso2
      @alfonzso2 Před 5 lety

      @@HugoStiglitz88 Tetris on game boy color was tha bomb!! played it it till my neck hurted, lol

  • @iicourageii8330
    @iicourageii8330 Před 5 lety +3

    This is so amazing, these videos just give a special vibe to them.
    Love the video, one of the best I've seen in the gaming community.

  • @Tr0lliPop
    @Tr0lliPop Před 3 lety +17

    What in the hell? If I had the opportunity I would seriously consider selling my soul to play as fast as trey and theres a crap ton of people calling him SLOW?!

    • @svendinsvinderlin4569
      @svendinsvinderlin4569 Před 3 lety

      Dude you gotta start playing tetris if you're so passionate

    • @Tr0lliPop
      @Tr0lliPop Před 3 lety

      @@svendinsvinderlin4569 I like playing tetris and I wanna get into tetris competitively (specifically I wanna get into modern vs tetris) but every time I wanna play I get absolutely bodied even by beginners
      I have less than 1 pps(pieces per second) on average
      and its just kinda like this loop of "hey I should actually play tetris it is a fun game u know" -> "holy shit Im bad at this game" -> "nevermind I dont wanna play a game where I will always lose"

    • @Jerryfan271
      @Jerryfan271 Před 3 lety

      @@Tr0lliPop You'll be able to catch up for sure just by practicing in solo gamemodes. There are also different clients which are good for practicing. Nullpomino has tons of gamemodes for things like digging and combo'ing. On YT you can also find good videos about stacking and strategies specific to competitive tetris. Mainly you should play marathon or no-gravity endless modes, stacking with the side well like in NES or stacking with the 4-wide well + residue like you will in your competitive games. Think about as many previews as you can and try to build slow but efficient. The difference between slow and fast players is having experience and intuition on where to put the pieces. You can also learn finesse which will reduce the actual placement time to almost nothing. Then, mix in practicing 40 line sprint or just playing marathon with high PPS. If you play quite a bit, you can probably get to 1.5 PPS in a month. Faster on games like tetrio or jstris where you can customise DAS and ARR.

    • @Tr0lliPop
      @Tr0lliPop Před 3 lety +1

      @@Jerryfan271 Thanks for the tips, this really made my day ^v^ btw, I noticed that I actually play faster without finesse since in my case playing with finesse requires me to stop for an entire second not doing anything on each piece to remember what the finesse for that piece was lmao

    • @issasecretbuddy
      @issasecretbuddy Před rokem

      check out some tetrio 40 line sprints if you wanna see how fast modern tetris is. it's nuts

  • @theepiclolgamer
    @theepiclolgamer Před 5 lety +1

    Your last video is truly a masterpiece in video essays/documentaries well done

  • @MasacoMike
    @MasacoMike Před 5 lety +44

    > Sees T-spin elevator
    > Checks description
    > Sees Lilla Oshisaure
    Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well.....

  • @fatal85
    @fatal85 Před 5 lety +82

    Looking forward to Tetris Effect. I thought this guy was great. No offense to the speedy players but those versions of Tetris have never looked fun to me. So his play didn't bother me at all.

    • @ironpro7217
      @ironpro7217 Před 5 lety +2

      fatal85 tetris effect is,by all intensive purpouses "one of those games" (srs,hold,7 bag)

    • @fatal85
      @fatal85 Před 5 lety +7

      As long as it's Tetris and I don't have to play it fast. It's fine by me. I have no problem with those versions. Its just I would never play Tetris as fast as you see people playing those versions. It was just nice seeing what the game plays like from a guy who plays it at a speed I would also play it. If it was a guy slamming them down super fast I dont know if I would have even watched the whole video. I like the Lumines games so seeing the cool effects and new music also excites me.

    • @ironpro7217
      @ironpro7217 Před 5 lety +8

      fatal85 you don't have to play most modern tetris games fast. The only ones where you have to play fast are the tetris grandmaster games

    • @fatal85
      @fatal85 Před 5 lety

      Good to know. I had no idea. This is coming out soon so I may as well wait. Otherwise I'd be picking up the Puyo version from the steam sale.

    • @HugoStiglitz88
      @HugoStiglitz88 Před 5 lety

      Totally agree. Classic tetris is much better.

  • @iicourageii8330
    @iicourageii8330 Před 5 lety

    It's been two weeks and I can't stop watching, so amazing.

  • @spk1121
    @spk1121 Před 5 lety

    Good for Trey! Would be so easy for someone in his position to be snooty about something like this. Glad he was willing to give it a go and that he could appreciate it, based on its own merits. I was pleased when he asked to try the VR and then pretty excited when he got the decahexatris! Enjoyed the vids, thanks for sharing with us.

  • @laskaofalaska
    @laskaofalaska Před 5 lety +26

    just want to say thanks for making this

  • @LegoDuck27
    @LegoDuck27 Před 5 lety +70

    You just earned a sub with these two videos

  • @retrogamesmadeeasy8058
    @retrogamesmadeeasy8058 Před 5 lety +1

    Well these two videos definitely made me subscribe. I loved that one of the ultimate Tetris Masters was open to a newer version and something completely different. Also your commentary was quite decent. I look forward to seeing more of stuff like this.

  • @itzTheChachi
    @itzTheChachi Před 5 lety +4

    I love this perspective of old school vs. new school versions of tetris. I've always seen 1984 tetris tournaments but never the newer versions and i can see that it takes more skill in playing the 1984 version than the newer versions for reasons explained in the video. Players who play 1984 tetris are cleaner than other players who play modern versions because they used to a more stricter/punishing type of version.

    • @babylonian
      @babylonian  Před 5 lety

      Thanks, Justin! I’m glad to hear you enjoyed this exploration of the distinction. Obviously both versions are valid, just a little different :)

  • @NatsumenoKage
    @NatsumenoKage Před 4 lety +8

    Thank you I've been trying to figure out why I can't win Tetris 99. I've been playing playing tetris for the last 25 years with tetris GB as my main form, and have never changed my play style.

  • @jamestaitt4470
    @jamestaitt4470 Před 5 lety +33

    Thanks for making this video

  • @MisterManDuck
    @MisterManDuck Před 5 lety +2

    Know what, I'm glad you brought this up and articulated the distinction between the two. I never grew up with either form, but the only style of Tetris I ever liked playing was the original, so his playing never scanned as either slow or odd. I'm no pro, but I know the technique of leaving the last row open, and the fact that I learned to do it independently speaks to the unique playing demands of both styles.

  • @cg-vt2ng
    @cg-vt2ng Před 5 lety

    Part I and II were very enjoyable to watch. Thank you!

  • @Hiyorimybeloved
    @Hiyorimybeloved Před 5 lety +7

    I really like your video, keep up with the work

  • @airplane6417
    @airplane6417 Před 3 lety +4

    I want to see him go against that modern Tetris player in a round of Gameboy/NES Tetris.

    • @babylonian
      @babylonian  Před 3 lety +3

      that would be so sick hahah

    • @jeuno880
      @jeuno880 Před 3 lety

      @@babylonian Pretty sure he'd obliterate them. Once you are so used to play in harder mode, you can pretty much play an easier version with little adjusting.
      Reverse it... and it'll feel like hell.
      That's why not that many people can bear playing Dark Souls type game. And mostly the one that can bear it either used to play old games or enjoy old games.
      Old games are ..... freakin punishing. No auto-save, Barely any potions or ammos, no auto-regenerate health, sometimes even perma-death.
      Oh ... right... don't forget those ones that deletes your save file without any warning #%#&%@^&$!%!#%#

    • @jeuno880
      @jeuno880 Před 3 lety

      @@babylonian Next time you visit this man, try covering all the outside part of the Tetris field. And play in mute. Who knows, he might end up destroying current record right off the bat. xD

  • @LuciusHogglefart
    @LuciusHogglefart Před 5 lety

    Ah thank you for the follow-up video I was so curious!

  • @AmbrosiaPoly-yolkEgg
    @AmbrosiaPoly-yolkEgg Před 4 lety +1

    I'm already subscribed, and have been for a while, but I keep instinctively going for the subscribe button from how much I'm always liking these videos

  • @polygonaltree1566
    @polygonaltree1566 Před 3 lety +7

    The new Tetris Effect Connected has a competitive score attack classic mode that is similar to competitive NES Tetris, along with other new multiplayer modes

  • @PixelVarnox
    @PixelVarnox Před 5 lety +513

    i thought final thoughts as in death bed

  • @popparock6506
    @popparock6506 Před 5 lety +1

    First time viewer here, part 1 was in my recommended section and me remembering og nes/Tetris i clicked it .. i found this to be REALLY interesting.. and i love that Trey loves og Tetris so much! It was interesting to catch his opinion on the newer game versions and i totally think that if his wife or someone close to him bought him the VR PS4 setup he would totally play it .. quite a bit too imo. Like he said not competitive play but he would "for the love of the game" enjoy it completely! Great Vid!

  • @rjpena6273
    @rjpena6273 Před 5 lety

    In the first minute of the video I already love how honest you are sub!

  • @olivianeugeboren602
    @olivianeugeboren602 Před 5 lety +24

    Things to cop: ps4, Tetris effect, 10$ level on nicks patreon

  • @XanderHDD
    @XanderHDD Před 5 lety +21

    Great follow up

  • @roltthehunter
    @roltthehunter Před 5 lety +1

    I don't know how your channel got into my feed, but i enjoy the content :D.

  • @ski11zlol
    @ski11zlol Před 5 lety

    Nice follow up video man, great video !

  • @carlosfer2201
    @carlosfer2201 Před 4 lety +4

    The speed thing definitely came to my mind when watching the other video. "I play faster than him and I'm just ok'... but your explanation is great.

  • @GlivGluv
    @GlivGluv Před 5 lety +130

    You should just marry Trey tbh

  • @stevenalexander6033
    @stevenalexander6033 Před 5 lety

    You got yourself a subscribe my friend... your channel is wonderful. Both these videos in this segment is wonderful. You're wonderful...

  • @layyouin8420
    @layyouin8420 Před 5 lety

    You're great at articulating your thoughts my friend. You got a sub!

    • @fcnl
      @fcnl Před 5 lety

      Yeah, if by great at articulating his thoughts you actually mean it takes ten god damned minutes to figure out if this guy actually like the game or not, then yes, he is great at articulating his thoughts.

  • @ls2786
    @ls2786 Před 2 lety +4

    The most important thing when you playing a game is having fun.

  • @KuraIthys
    @KuraIthys Před 5 lety +28

    Yeah, those old tetris games are quite brutal. A single mistake can cost you a game almost instantly, and sometimes, at higher speeds and heights I haven't even been able to get a piece across to the side of the screen without it locking in place. (usually in an awkward spot that almost guarantees failure).
    I'm certainly not some master tetris player, but I'm a lot better at it than my former boyfriend. His competitive streak caused him to try to beat my scores, but he couldn't manage even with about 50 attempts to my one.
    Anyway, what I learnt to play is the gameboy version, which is firmly in the old school tetris camp.
    You can't play that at the speeds of modern tetris and have even the slightest hope in hell of managing to even survive, much less get a decent score...

  • @impatientfire
    @impatientfire Před 5 lety +1

    I'm not even a big Tetris player myself and this was fun to watch. Always nice to see extremely talented gamers play a game and give their thoughts about it.

  • @goodninja3
    @goodninja3 Před 5 lety

    AND thus! A new fav youtuber of 2018 was born! Subscribed

  • @KaiSchSp
    @KaiSchSp Před 5 lety +11

    Loved these two videos. subbed :]

  • @IAmSkips
    @IAmSkips Před 5 lety +37

    You're seriously an amazing film maker and the way your channel is going is awesome. Becoming a little more serious but also not too serious and it suits your personality. Keep up the great work man :)

  • @milanschouten6533
    @milanschouten6533 Před 5 lety

    damn, your videos are amazing. Imma definitely sub now. these documentaries are amazing.

  • @MichaelTrit
    @MichaelTrit Před 5 lety

    I sat through 10 mins of commercials to watch this vid completely and it was absolutely worth it