How NES Tetris's Hardest Mode Was Conquered After 29 Years
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- čas přidán 10. 06. 2020
- The story of 19-5, the hardest mode in NES Tetris, which was not completed on video until decades after the game's initial release in 1989.
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Marq's 19-5 video: • (NTSC) NES TETRIS - (F...
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Many thanks to Marq and Jake, along with Robin Mihara, Alex Kerr, and Ben Mullen who helped confirm things during research.
Special thanks to Xael for the 3d rendering of the 19-5 scene.
Highly recommend Josh's B-type training series:
Part 1 • Tetris Survival Skills...
Part 2 • Tetris Survival Skills...
Part 3 • Tetris Survival Skills...
Music and Additional Video Sources here: docs.google.com/document/d/1T...
CTM June Recap coming up next! In the meantime, here is finally what was meant to be the first of my "weekly" videos after CTWC 2019. Somehow originally this video was supposed to be made in a week, and it turned into a several month long rabbit hole of research, interviews, and a continually expanding script. Big thanks to everyone who contributed. Check out all the links and the google doc in the description for further watching - in particular, I highly recommend Josh Tolles' series.
it worth the wait. great vid as always
Such high quality in this video! Definitely worth the wait
Quality > Quantity
What console/controller do you use?
Pls help promote guideline lol. Jokes aside with tetr.io released and all the other stuff, it would be cool to see someone bridge the gap between the modern and classic tetris communities.
I remember watching my Mom take on level 15-5 over and over again for months. It was a huge deal when she finally beat it, we were all celebrating. I still haven't done it to this day.
Grew up playing Nintendo with my mom too, she had me young and was single all my childhood so we were almost like best friends/brother and sister than anything. I will never forget playing Mario and Battletoads with her. Such a cool lady
Damn, your mom is cool!
your mom is a gamer girl :o
Yes my mom used to love Tetris and Dr. Mario
Really good to see you here, Tim. I've been rewatching your Tetris 99 videos and maybe some day you'll get beat 15-5!
Me: Man, level 9 is impossible.
CZcams: There's a level 19.
And 29 is twice as fast as 19.
joseph saelee: how about 35 :)
@@tiddly5 oh my god he actually reached 35 what a madlad
i remember watching his 66 lines lvl 29 start about a year ago so im super happy to see him get it in a full run wow
@@miweneia Just out of curiousity how many money do these people win at tetris tournaments?
@@aspreedacore at the world championships the prize pool was 3k but in 2019 it was 10k
everyone: "19-5 is impossible lol"
a German with 20 minutes to spare and a 14 y/o kid:
A German with possession of a 14 year old?
@@ryanhernandez1877 thats what i was thinking
Just need to be a German hanging out with a teenager?
:,D
@@ValentineC137 D,:
Ah yes, my favorite Nintendo character, Icarus from Kid Icarus.
Darn it, yeah, StrategyWiki let me down on that one...it listed the names of all the other characters directly but said Height 0 is Kid Icarus. Of course that would be the one game I didn't know much about, haha. I've added a card as a correction!
@@aGameScout damn that sucks bro, truth be told I don't even remember his name tho lol
@@aGameScout Just for the record, just in case you still don't know, his name is Pit. Not criticizing or anything friend, enjoyed the video.
lol
I remember beating 9-0 and seeing this and I was like, “who is this”?
This guy saying how easy some levels are is like a minecraft redstone engineer describing how simply easy it is to build a 100 x 100 piston door
Honey blocks - let us introduce ourselves
@@HoppingSkipper You still need to make multiple 1-wide flying machines that can activate eachother and power them all so they start at the same time over a 100 block long gap :D
@@ValentineC137 however, it is modular.
@Valentine
And fast enough to not bore the player and not make them accidentally unload part of the door.
More than 32 high is pretty difficult still with honey.
So Mark contacted You, to include somebody else in the video, that was suposed to glorify him. I love this community
yeah Marc is a real class act
"You all know what DAS is, but in case this is the first video you've ever seen from me, here's an explanation"
This is actually the first time I've seen a video from you, haha
Same here lol
Me too!
Too me 2 lol
You know what I'm gon say
S ame
World record progression of 19-5
we're finally landing
Summoning salt pls
*New Landing by Home plays in the background*
Ok but seriously he should definitely make a video on Tetris
@@teeks8713 well, go check it out then !
"I'm Jake, 14 years old"
...woah. 14 years and a top Tetris player? Damn.
I wish I could be that skilled at a game
Not even half as old as the game itself!
Lugmillord the fastest Guideline player in the world is also 14.
Jake Tapper aka Jake from State farm
Younger people have faster dexterity, it's also why so many Rubix cube world record setters are young
So basically, 19-5 is a like a 19-4, you "just" need to clear out the first 3 lines.
Easy!
More seriously, gg to all of them for beating this level out!
Aerosfilis tbf, trying, failing, and reseting takes about 5 seconds :^P
:o a 69 like comment to ruin!
Can't you just reset until you get a good board pattern?
@@dasmilekat5231 You have to. If your left is empty, it's an immediate reset
wait aGameScout is a perfectly average tetris player so he can make videos on what the average player can do! big brain
Very underrated aspect of the video
*Average among people who entered in tournament.
@@StarlightLumi I'm dying over here. I suppose I didn't explain it in the video, but the Classic Tetris Monthly is an online tournament with multiple tiers for different skill levels. People of pretty much all skill levels from novices to world champs qualify for it. If you already have a modest computer and okay internet connection, it costs $0 to participate with an emulator. If you want to use real equipment, an entire setup can cost as little as $60.
@@aGameScout But depending on where you live that can go up to the hundreds of dollars, which is why I use emulator :(
Yo aren’t you the cubing guy? Didn’t know you would be here!
I like that you use the same mic throughout the video. The volume is consistent and it's less distracting when you go from the narrated segments of the video to the segments where you're in front of the camera.
Thank you, this is one of those "under the hood" things that I spend a lot of time on and if I do it right, most people will never notice. It's a huge part of editing each video to make sure that the music, narration and sound effects all work together and are at the appropriate volume throughout.
@@aGameScout it's the little things that make your vids amazing!
@@aGameScout
Brooo. I hate it when you turn up the volume to hear someone speak then get blasted by loud, obnoxious music.
Much appreciated.
Yeah ikr? I didn't realize he was actually talking on camera those times it shifted
There's something poetic about it taking 29 years to complete, and 29 being the kill level.
watching that jonas reaction made me feel things :(
I did not know about the different levels giving different endscreens. Another great video as always! Your videos always show a lot of care and effort which I really appreciate.
Man watching Jonas celebrate that 19-4 made me so sad. RIP to an absolute legend.
Luckily, there are others in our gaming multiverse
what happened?
@@smolpup7395Jonas sadly passed away in 2021 due to a sudden heart complication.
Interviewer: How long did it take you to scale Everest?
Tetris hyper-tappers: oh, about 20m
Everyone: ...
Hyper-tappers: it's really not that hard
"You have to realize that in a certain path of the mountain, ice never spawns. It's in the geographical code. Then, you need the right weather and wind so the snow is mostly blown away there, and from there you just climb up the last bit and you can get all the way up. Great view, but you can't stay there too long."
bananya lmao
Oh, it just takes about 20 meters
@@Th3Curs3dChild lol
@@bananya6020 pfft
Just casually being the second person ever to beat 19-5 while just chilling in a discord chat. At 14 nonetheless
@44ah ye
Jake seems like the most mature 14-year-old
I bet he gets invited to loads of parties!!
Manchester Guy jake talks smooth with the ladies
surprised no 14 y/o came here like "im more mature!!!!!!!!!!!!"
sunduck like, i do get invited to loads of parties!!
Any 14 year old who actually is more mature than him wouldnt say that
Jake has a really adult tone to the way he talks. Not the sound of his voice, but just his cadence. I swear he sounds more intelligent and mature than most adults I know.
That's because he has confidence on what he's saying.
He's also not American where spoken language is an absolute tragedy amongst the young population.
^ well it has finally happened. I've now become my dad. Complaining about the youth.
That is Just how German acsent Sounds
@@prinzeszelda3650 Jake is the 14 year old canadian that is introduced after Marc, the german.
As a german casual gamer I am a little proud of Marc's achievement :D
Also I'm fond to see, that you are turning into the "Summoning Salt" of Classic Tetris! Keep up the good work, your Videos are always worth a watch!
Marc: Germany, Austria, Switzerland, and Luxembourg. *Sad Liechtenstein noises.* Edited 4 times for grammar.
Lil 160km² is too short to be recognized 😞
Sad Belgium noises. :(
You need to edit a 5th time then, because it's a spelling error not a grammatical one.
Blood Bath and Beyond - Pop Goes Metal Covers if there is a spelling error comment it
I thought only rich exclusive ppl live there
Like a luxury resort for people that are better than the rest of us
So maybe he didnt want to bring them down
Rolling changed tetris forever. It really is wild to see before and after rolling content.
"It isn't as hard as you expect it to be"
Yeah nah, that's the kind of answers my speedrunner friend gives me after stringing together 3 frame perfect tricks while talking.
Some people are just built different
no they just practice
@@mallusaih If it was all about practice, 14 years old kids wouldn't surpass people people who practiced for two decades
@@RamzaBeoulves Its not like you can just be born with talent and have it carry you towards mastery. Talent is like a good bicycle, it will help you learn cycling and help you have a good understanding of cycling, but you will need practice to be actually good.
@@mallusaih Oh then we definately agree
Wow, thank you for this video, it made me cry a little as it made me miss my mom.
A little backstory - when I was much younger, my mom was obsessed with NES Tetris and would play it for hours on end every day to the point that she once actually burned out the AC adapter for the NES because she was playing it so long. One of her goals was to unlock all of the B-Mode endings, which she eventually did with 9-5, but then I learned about the +10 levels and told her, so she set to work trying to beat them to see if any of the endings were different. I remember watching in awe as she knocked down level after level, eventually getting to the 19's. I honestly don't remember if she ever beat 19-5, but part of me wants to say she did because even if I don't remember the exact event, I do remember feeling elated that she'd done something that monumental then feeling disappointed about it for some reason. That could be the intervening 20 some years mixing up her first 9-5 clear with her 19-5 attempts, though, which is why I can't say for certain I remember her beating 19-5, but I do know she made many attempts at it.
She's been dead for over 5 years now, which is why these fond memories are making me miss her and a little weepy as I wish I could share this video with her and reminisce over her NES Tetris accomplishments. Still, I'm grateful that your video helped me to remember that part of my childhood and congrats to the astounding young men who accomplished this daunting task, you guys are awesome and I appreciate how humble and honest you seem to be. We need more young people like you in the world.
LOVE the interview parts with Marc and Jake in this video. That’s what makes this a top tier video. Nicely done as always, Dave! Also double check. I could’ve sworn Greentea is the only DAS player to clear 19-5. Thought I heard him say it at CTWC19.
Isn't greentea the only DAS player to clear 19-4?
@@tavernofheart No; Jonas and Josh did as well (as shown in the video)
Thanks DLo! Throughout all my research I didn't hear anything about Greentea beating 19-5. You may have heard him say he was the only DAS player to beat 19-4, as at the time, it would have only been him and Jonas, and I don't think Jonas's 19-4 was widely known about.
aGameScout That is highly possible. It was in the large qualifying area and it was loud. He might’ve indeed said 19-4!
@@KelinZhu yes, I know. I mean sometimes in the past, people were saying that Greentea is the only one who beat 19-4 not 19-5
"Tapping 10 times a second is very rare"
Minecraft players: Hold my Vape Li- I mean mouse, hold my mouse.
Lmfao
The tapping is one thing, but Tetris Hypertappers also have switch the buttons they hypertap every 0.3 seconds and stop at the right 5 or less frame window.
@@DreckbobBratpfanne People who blockhit for sprint reset: *Hold my mouse*
@@joeass2399 tetris and minecraft are very different it’s not like you can jitterclick a button like you can a mouse
@@spexisrl645
My friend do you not know what jitter clicking is?
Icarus, metroid, and zelda all made it to the score screen, i see.
Yikes.
At this rate of community skill explosion, we will reach the Tetrisingularity sometime next year.
Next CTWC qualifier seeds will be determined by how many maxouts you reached during qualification. Remember, last year the qualification score was like 700k or something...
@@wohlhabendermanager really?
the amount of time this man puts into spreading NES tetris is unbelievable this video was just stunning
'All German-speaking countries in Europe'
*cries in Belgium*
Ihr sprecht Deutsch in Belgien?
@@Faygris Es ist sogar eine unserer Amtssprachen! Es gibt eine Minderheit, ca. 80.000 Einwohner, die deutschsprachig ist. :)
Won't somebody remember poor Liechtenstein
Ja krass wuste ich garnicht dass ihr deutsch in Belgien sprecht...
@@lucagain. Wieder was dazugelernt. :)
Yes, I finally get an explanation of what this is!
Always love these Tetris videos. Well-explained for the beginner, but enough in-depth research that even a strong follower of the Tetris scene tends to get something new. Really good stuff every time.
Your attention to detail and the passion that drives you to explaining this so in-depth is incredible. I've been greatly appreciating your videos!
Scout you've outdone yourself!! Seriously awesome work. The bits about the endscreens were fascinating, and the interviews with Marq and Jake were great too! And man the production value is just through the roof here, just wanna call out the time and effort you put into these. It's so much and it's so worth it -- it shines through! Thank you!!
honestly 19-5 just looks like my board after playing for 10 mins
getting called out by songscout made my day
aSongScout? I only know aGameScout XD
@Manny Rodríguez 2 i know, i said that as meme
Man, i really love your videos and this is another great one! I love the effort you put in, interviewing players, linking resources for everyone interested in joining the community etc. Keep it up!
I always love your videos! They are presented so clearly, and they honestly serve as one of the major sources for info about Tetris and the community! I'm probably not the only person who fell even further down the Tetris rabbit hole because of your excellent videos
19:10 i'm so proud of that kid and i don't even know him
really nice story telling. they both seem like cool people and great recent additions to the tetris community, marq and jake
classic tetris germany sounds like a nice idea but i can still only get up to 100k points :D and i have so little freetime currently to practice.
You're one of the best video producers for this genre, keep it up. I love watching this kind of research on the game, the people, and the achievements, come to a cohesive story in the end.
The algorithm recommended this to me and I clicked on a whim, and MAN am I glad! you explained it so clearly even to someone like me who has only played tetris once or twice (and on a PC). What a great video; so well researched and produced, like watching a really wholesome Vice documentary!
Keep it up :)
Rest in peace Jonas, you will never be forgotten as a Tetris legend
Aw he died?! Damn
Now that you posted this video watch as like 20 other hypertappers clear 19-5.
One has already done it! haha
I saw many already done it, including joseph. Am i missing something?
Leo MarBel that Joseph did it is mentioned in the video.
I love watching your videos. With everything going on in the world I really needed some escape from it all and your videos have really helped me. I've seen most of them almost a dozen times but every time I enjoy them even more. I haven't watched this one yet but I will as soon as I have time. Thank you for all these videos.
Your Tetris content and narratives are very engaging. Great work covering the Tetris scene. Great great job man! Keep it up!
Now, all we need is people doing 29-2.
29-0 was finished by Joseph
@Manny Rodríguez 2 this comment was 6 months ago
@Manny Rodríguez 2 Cheez and Eric both did it.
29-3 is now a thing. Rolling is OP
Doge did 29-2, and Cheez did 29-3
This was really interesting, the interviews were very insightful.
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Thank you CZcams algorithm, this was literally what I needed. I watched your first video and loved it but immediately jumped into watching Tetris videos from players and champion ships with a better understanding because of you video, without subscribing. Couldn't find this channel untill now when this video gets recommended. Keep making these ...
Awesome video man! The NES Tetris renaissance has been fun to watch.
RIP Jonas
both explinations are "all you gotta do is get really lucky and burn a few lines and now your just playing 19-4"
I love your videos about tetris, really! You talk about it with some passion and its incredible to watch
I liked how at the end you talk about nes tetris around the world, so maybe a good theme for a video research or something like that would be the competitive scenes around the world (singapur, finland, etc) and how many maxout players are in the world right now
Keep up the good work!
I absolutely love your videos, Scout! Can't wait for the PAL/NTSC one - I've had the pleasure of competing at CTEC several times and have much love for the PAL community
Great video!
Made me finally remember to post my 19-5 video 🙂
Great video and thanks for mentioning me! The order isn't correct though. Joseph was actually 5th and I was the 6th player to beat 19-5. Some people got it wrong because I wrote on 1st april I would have got it, but I didn't show any proof. And yesterday BV (youtube: BV Tetris) beat it too.
Np! Thanks for clarification on the order, I wasn't really sure of the exact progression of who had gotten it after Marc and Jake, so I was just trying to make sure I listed everybody. I did see BV Tetris's 19-5 as well, he said he actually got it after watching my video and trying it out himself!
Excellent content, well produced. I love to see a younger generation getting into classic Tetris and appreciating the pioneers of E-Sports!
The quality of your videos is insane. The interview Marc is from November and the video is made in June.
Dude don't kill your creativity in pursuit of perfection!
Your vid from CTWC2018 is one of the best things I've seen on the tube.
Keep it up and don't be afraid of posting videos that don't take a lifetime to make!
aGameScout: "Icarus appears"
Me: *angry illiterate noises*
yeah :( I was misinformed
MAYDAY! MAYDAY! THIS LOOKS LIKE THE END! I NEVER LEARNED HOW TO REEEEAAAD!
This shows you how when a community perceives something as "impossible", it hinders development and progress significantly.
Exactly what I posted, i imagine this would be normal and not a rare thing if the boomers didn't go its impossible 20 years ago lol
@@KeithChapman-hr5kx yeah, because the "boomers" were supposed to know a quirk in the games code that made 19-5 much easier and that a 16 year old would resurrect the lost art of hypertapping.
You should get into geometry dash
It has some really deep history
The story of silent club, silent clubstep, sohn0924 and his levels, Element 111 Rg
"This thing is impossible, it's just a meme that isn't worth trying"
*A kid tries it for 20 minutes and beats it*
@@iDunnoMC The quirk makes it harder, it’s just that accounting for it brings it from “impossible” to “possible”. Not only that, but a 14 year old managed to spot it, so the “How were they supposed to know about it?” argument doesn’t work
Love your videos, I feel like you put so much effort into making these that make them so worth to watch. Keep up the good work, Scout!
I like you man. You've invested a lot of time in this hobby, you still find joy in it, and you want to share it with people. Thanks
Cheez pulling up with the 29-4 clear 😎
29-5 coming soon boys
Another great video. As a DAS player myself it's great to see that you are still talking about DAS despite it becoming less viable in high level competition. It's still the best way for new players to become familiar with the game. I've used hypertapping and the fast DAS codes but I've realised that wrestling with the DAS monster is fundamental to my enjoyment of the game, having grown up with it.
I still think a clear and thorough anaylsis of the difference between DAS play and hypertapping, (the different skill sets required and the advantages they have over each other) has yet to be done.
Probably gotta take someone like koryan and greentea. I like to believe DAS has advantages for longevity, but it’s only hopeful speculation. I recall Joseph struggling to utilize DAS strats in the past and sticking mainly to hypertapping.
Lol, and then rolling came in and just absolutely obliterated everything. 🤣
another highly informative high quality nes Tetris documentary. 24 min flew by! Good job!
I gotta say, I really love your channel. You’re really a charming guy and I appreciate all the work you put in to these! Keep up the good work!
Marq vs Joseph would be one of the most insane matches ever
This hyper tapper video has aged like fine wine.
This is totally the first video of you I saw so thank you for explaining DAS :) As a matter of a fact the whole video was super informative and interesting as someone who is merely a couch tetris gamer :)
Another amazing video! Thanks David!
People: level 19 5 is impossible!
14 years old guy:
Your channel is definitely an example of quality over quantity. Always nice to see when you release a well done informative video
Love your videos man.
The amount of time that must have taken to research all these things really shows your passion.
And the overall great quality of the whole video. Amazing!
Keep safe and have a nice day good sir!
This is the first video I've seen from you. Thanks for explaining DAS. I did not know what it was until now.
I see a new aGameScout video. I click.
same
Almost 40 years later and the NES still challenging people. Props to Nintendo for making such an iconic and nearly ageless system.
Excellent video, as always. Thanks!!
Yes! Coming home from work to a brand new video from you - perfect! 😀
Omg an upload
This is my favorite channel, I've watched every vid atleast 20 times
same
same
11:16
Joseph: k
Jonas: OMG WTF FK YEAH
This made me giggle.
Very well researched, informative, and entertaining.
crazy to rewatch this video now that 29-4 has been beaten
yeah, it took a whole new playstyle being developed for it to even be considered possible.
@@aGameScout Will you do a video on it?
So its all about a good starting board and pieces dropping at the right time. If more people had tried it and didn't just say its impossible I'd imagine there would be a crap load more 19-5 finishes
Always excited when that new aGameScout video pops up. Great content as always dude! Now over to Marc's video!
This is the first video I've seen from you, so thanks for explaining DAS.
That’s pretty insane how when the gates are open and people see it’s possible, it then becomes done over n over
Well, previous to watching this, I had little no interest in Tetris. Excellent job on keeping the topic interesting enough to watch the full 24 minutes.
It's absolutely insane how these two players were able to beat the impossible in such a short period of time. Flashes of genius mixed with genuine talent make for some amazing developments.
Love your videos, man! Keep making them please.
i just seen your other videos and i love them!
i know you probably already get this alot but your videos are really helpful and informative!
also....
your smile is super catchy lmao
Shows picture of mario*
This is Zelda, he's my favourite pokemon from Call of Duty
*Gamrr*
This is very impressive.
I'd never actually attempt a task this ambitious because I like to have fun in my games, and getting stressed out from trying to become one of the best is not fun to me.
Yet these young kids still achieved the practically impossible.
Idk how I got here, I barely play any tetris but your channel and this scene so interesting that I'm gonna stick around. Cheers mate.
I love how at one point in the video, Jake and Marq are both seen wearing the same Avatar Black Waltz tour t-shirts. Tetris is super Metal! Also, Jake is very well spoken for his age, seems like a bright dude. Not surprised he has figured out Tetris at such a young age.
"It's a topic for another video" is how this man says "alright see you in a few months".
😭
Someone tries to enter the CZcams algorithm. 😉
you got me haha
@@aGameScout Hope it works out, you deserve the views :)
Well, I got this video in my recommendation so it worked :)
Yep found this channel because of it
Awesome vid, very much looking forward to the PAL vs NTSC vid.
Thank you for explaining what DAS is for probably the 1000th time. This was indeed the first video of yours I had watched and I knew nothing about competitive play. It was all very interesting!
Ryan Lockwood skipped 1:13 on streets, Marc skipped 19-4 on b-mode.