Aluminum Heads and Supercharger Install on the Ford Small Block for the Mustang
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We officially have BOOST installed on the Mustang engine!
In this video I show a How To style installation of the freshly rebuilt Holley Aluminum Heads that I took to Jim Grubbs Motorsports for a complete rework and upgrade... and then mount the Weiand 174 Power Charger to the Holley aluminum intake manifold!
- If you want to skip right to the Super Charger install go to 8:15 but the head install is pretty good if you haven't ever done that before.
By the end of the video you will get a glimpse of the almost completed front drive system as well. I bought a 150 amp alternator and new A/C pump and will probably use a stock style steering pump for the new Total Control Products rack and pinion steering setup going on the car for now and may need to upgrade to a racing pump later. The only modification to the pulley system was the cut at the bottom of the alternator bracket to get rid of the smog pump since this is going in a pre 1975 vehicle.
Stay tuned for future videos for the final dial in on the front drive systems and when we get this thing back in the car for first start up!
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Jason lewis - Auta a dopravní prostředky
I have a 302 in my 91 F-150, and I'm currently over hauling it back to factory. This video just answered every question I've ever had on the rebuild. You are the best, and I'll definately be using it once my new heads come in!!!
holy crap that motor looks sick man I cant wait to hear that supercharger!!!!
+Robert Ritchey Yeah Buddy! Me too...
Excellent! This video was like a Christmas present to start the week👍🏻
+UGAgeorgiaDAWG Allright!!! I'm trying to keep up but it's hard to sometimes!
Always so excited to see your videos every month man keep it up
+Mackenzie Yarbough Thanks, I'm trying!
love the video.. an awesome build. was a little surprised at some of your explanations for sealant on some of the threads.🤔
Beautiful....definitely Blessed.....Awesome job your doing on that Mustang.....Nice clean work..... Thanks for posting your stuff I enjoy watching and get inspired.... Ive built a few Harley Custom Bikes and now trying my hand on a 69 Nova..... watching others and picking up on tips and ideas .... I picked up on a few ideas watching you do the Brake system on her..... Thanks for sharing..... Be Blessed Cheers
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Great job, looking forward to hearing that run!!! You chose correct with the thermostat housing, the aftermarket ones leak.
+Shakerhood69 That's what I thought, it's tempting to put the shiny new stuff on but just cleaning up the old stuff is best sometimes. Thanks for the confirmation!
Just randomly found this video, really nice engine build.
Ive wanted to put a Weiand 174 on mine, but the price has gone up on them almost $1,000 now.. eek
Nice update. That is going to be a great engine for the mustang build. I'll look to see if you do a video on that Throttle body set up. Keep it up! Clay
Thanks so much... I hope to get another video up soon!
Can't wait to see the car done!
+Dark Flame505 Yup, it's moving along slow but sure...thanks for hanging in there!
Excellent!! What a very profound and important step to the build! Looking forward to the next update. Every time I see that car, I can't help but think of the classic James Bond movie "Diamonds Are Forever." :-)
+Austen Oh now that's a cool throwback! I think people forget that the 73 was also the first actual Eleanor from Gone in 60 Seconds (although both were fastbacks and this thing is a coupe) but I like it and it will be a ton of fun to drive when it's done...and that's what matters most!
+autoedit For sure!
I like to put a couple pieces of threaded rod in the bolt holes when I set the intake manifold. Makes getting it on straight really easy.
That is a great tip! Thanks for that.
So ready to hear that thing purrrr!
If you put a stud in the 4 corners of the intake bolt holes of the head it let's you put the intake on perfectly every time. Take the studs out once you start some of the intake bolts started.
I like the love you are giving to large Marge!
Miss your videos like this
who says money cant buy happiness....thats a nice build..I have a chevy 355 ..with a blower cam...and a 177 weiend shpercharger...
wildthing302 question do you need a tune with a supercharger
Royal Jays just make shure your carburetor is up to the task...and be careful with your timing...
Nice man- that is going to be sweet!
With a blower I like using ARP studs for the heads.
yes!!... burnouts are getting closer every time!!... like how the videos are getting longer ...saludos from mexico
+martincillo111 Yeah for Burnouts!!!!!!!! I was worried that the video was too long. Thanks Dude!
Been waiting for a new vid for a whole month now! Finally! lol
+Anthony Smith Works been a bit crazy, thanks for sticking around my friend!
@@AutoEdits very nice your project turned out beautiful I'm getting some pointers for my own project off yours
Excellent work bro
Thanks dude
Hey good video. My engine builder is building me a 302/347 stroker with the 174 blower for my 67 Mustang. I've not learned about the cold weather block off plates you put on and said it's good for about 10-15 HP. Could you explain what ports on the heads were blocked off and how it adds a HP gain; also on the Weiand manifold, what were those 2 plugged ports by the thermostat housing, and how many water and vacuum ports are on the Weiand manifold? I'm already looking at the Super Sniper next year and need the additional water port. Thanks.
there any Chanel dedicate just for Ford SVT lightning???..
13:02 Would a nail polish remover work to clean up that area of the manifold from dirt, oil and grease?
Great vid. Thanks, Perry
+perry eastham Thank you Perry!
thanks for explaining the pollution pump thing, I had wondered about that in the states, here is Aus, pollution equipment is based on the year of the motor and older motors can't go into newer cars
+Ursh anabi We have a similar thing here...since this engine was pulled from a 1995 Cobra Mustang and is going to live in a 1973, it gets a break on the smog requirements.
is that because it is the same family of engine? as in a 302 is a 302 regardless of year?
+Ursh anabi In the U.S. Any vehicle built before 1975 is fair game to swap whatever you want in but cars after that have to comply to smog regulations.
great I just watched it I'll try that thanks
god damn I cant wait for this thing to be finished.
+Brononomous I know, but it'll get there...lots to do tho
autoedit yea and hey it's moving much faster than my current project so kudos on that one.
+Brononomous Well, as long as they are BOTH moving...that's important!
Man what a awesome motor , love the supercharger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks...that's a lot of !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
what is the compression of the motor?? looking to do that to my stroker
What were those block off plates you put on the intake side ? Never seen those before.
Just recently installed one on my 347 stroker and I was wondering what kind of timing you were running?
would a bad timing chain can cause low oil pressure and cause car to stall it's a 95 mustang gt little mod gt40 intake I have no ? when timing chain was change
may be when you put that main stud for the blower with therad locker instead antiseez... cause you might want those stud not to come loose... just a thought...
Is there anyway I can use a supercharger from a 2013 gt500 on a 351w?
Oem thremostat housing is more restrictive though correct
I'm in the process of doing a 289 block with a boss 302 crank N351 heads B&M 174 Supercharger C6 transmission going in a stretched 3b jeep. When do you think that you will dyno your engine? I'm very interested to see the results. Be safe
Always awesome video...
Thanks!
good stuff!
Hello sir . i have crown vic 1998 , could please help me to get Supercharger for it ,, I trid but its look like no one know how to do it or where get the parts
I'm really surprised you didn't at least go 0.30 over or even 0.60 over as the early 302s were more than able to accept the bore change and respond nicely to the increase. I know because My brother in law is a die hard Ford fanatic and has a bunch of big bore 302s
Does your supercharger require a intercooler ?
beautiful!
Nice. I want to do this for my 347
Yes you do!
FYI should replace the lifters, pushrods, rocker arms all back to original position locations, in order to match cam lobe positions to match wear positions wo accelerated wear positions cross-matched.
avoiding abnormal wear positions (cam lobes, pushrods, rocker arms)
What kind of torque wrench is that?
good stuff buddy!
+ShnitzlHaus Thanks Dude!
And great work so far on Marge u given me some great ideas for my 72 grande
WINNING!!
Good job✌lider.
Another excellent video, thank you for this edition. I am curious to know why you didn't use the gaskets for the ends of inlet manifold? Is there some advantage to using silicone instead? Also what grade of silicone are you using?
+marine50k Well, years ago an old timer told me to use sealant and it has just become habit at this point and to be honest, I don't remember why it was recommended. I have been using the "right stuff" on the last few installs with no issues. Any suggestions either way?
+autoedit thanks for explaining that one. I don't really have a technical reason for doubting the effectiveness of your choice, more of a gut call thinking that the sealant might not survive as many heating and cooling cycles compared to a gasket. That said, experience trumps gut, so I shall give it try sometime when I have the opportunity. I shall have to google the "right stuff" and find a UK equivalent product.
yes a new video I'm so excited
+tommyboy1two Thanks so much!
+autoedit I'm surprised you didn't install a new Cam or did you?
+tommyboy1two The tech guys at Holley say that a stock cam is a really good way to go when running a supercharger and since I'm not sure what is actually in there...I just left it. We'll see what happens when I go to start it!
autoedit Hopefully it's soon since Tom's turbo garage finished his ls3 miata project your pretty much all I have for inspiration now lol
DId you use the 80's v-6 serpentine setup like the instructions say or did you do something else? I would love to know how you set up the pulleys.. Thanks
+Bill Mayer I used the 1995 serpentine pulley setup with NO Drama at all. Highly recommend it for this install. The only change I made was for the smog pump delete...I'm even going to use the stock tensioner. In another few days I'll measure the belt and do that install and can post the measurement here if that would help.
Where u getting a set of ARP head studs for 50$ bucks???
great video, i am installing the same blower in my 66 coupe, just one question, what distributor and headers you're planning to use? thanks
I went with the Flowmaster full length headers that fit perfectly and the msd dist.
please let me know of you ever want to sell the blower. very interested been looking for years
Very cool Jason! Is there a gasket under the blower housing/manifold? Thanks! Cheers from Motown/Dearborn.
Yes, I just was setting it in place... Howdy!
Love the videos! What music do you use for your videos? Did they come from a particular library?
I bought a bundle of cd's from a group called Smart Sound and the editing program is called Sonic Fire Pro. It's pretty easy to use.
At 4:00 the left side of your block has water holes that your gasket blocks
302 Front crank bearing wont last long with that crank pulley extension. 351 windsor is stronger.
You have pretty good production and editing
Ok, Thanks!
I have one on 77 mustang ll but I'm experiencing belt squeal on a new Belt too on acceleration any ideals would help
+mike maye Go to the motor trend you tube channel and watch the current episode of Engine Masters. Freiburger and Dulsich deal with that very thing!
NICE! Is the upper rad hose going to fit by the blower snout?
+n20cpri I did have to make a little clearance on the tensioner bracket to give a little more room for the upper radiator hose. I thinks it's worth it to have the stock housing on there.
Fantastic, are you using forged internals? also, what is the rough estimate of a build like this? I'm buying a 65-69 Mustang (whatever year I can find at a good deal) next year, and I'm going to turn it into a street/ strip. Ive been trying to pull ideas from all over, so any info helps. Ive dealt with the EFI 302 in my 90' F150, and I was also wondering, would you prefer the 351w, or 302? Ive yet to deal with a 351.
nick hobbs, 302 or 351? there's no replacement for more displacement...
So all SBF are external balanced. I do believe 302 is 28oz and 351 is 50oz. With the adapter pulley on the HB, wouldn't that cause the balance to be thrown off? Unless you're using internal instead? My knowledge is basic on blowers, can someone explain?
The balance on this engine is on the flywheel... I forget the ounces at this moment.
yay new vid!
+Michael Graper YUP!
That was nice
+Ernesto Rivera galicia Thanks!
Awesome work! This kit is going to work on my Ford 302 1972?
Absolutely! Thanks for watching and saying hey!
really enjoy your videos - I am knee deep (wallet) deep in restoring a 67 Mustang and have the original 289 - would like to upgrade motor - will the supercharger fit under the stock flat hood with the dual turn signals - thanks
+Darrell Nunnelley That is a great hood on the 67...not one to be cut up. I measured today to check for you, and the top of the Wieand 174 supercharger and throttle body sit as high as the stock manifold with a stock air cleaner...so not enough room (I don't think). Give me another month or so to get this motor in my Mustang and I'll throw the hood on to see what the stock hood and this trick Holley low profile air cleaner I got look like.
+autoedit Thanks for the quick reply - planned on going with wilwood brakes/rotors and TCP suspension based on your recent videos - would you rebuild the old 289 or do a crate 302 or 351 - want to keep the automatic trans so any ideas are appreciated
+Darrell Nunnelley I'm glad to hear that some of the parts choices on this project help. All of the stuff in my videos have been top quality parts...no bs. As for engine recommendation...this is the way I would go if I didn't have to spread what budget I have around so much:
www.fordracingbyspeedshopdirect.com/FORD_RACING_BOSS_CRATE_ENGINE_ASSEMBLY_363_500HP_p/m-6007-z363ft.htm
500 Horsepower just like that! And it will bolt right up to whatever transmission and and fit right into our older cars. but that's my "wish list" engine.
Best of luck on your project and post up when you can on progress!
+autoedit The budget for the complete motor with all components is around $6,000 so that won't work - was hoping to stay around 325/400 hp and a dependable driver vs weekend hot rod
OMG! Yes that would help. I have been wanting to put one on my 331 for awhile but was not happy with the pulley option. Also what made you go with the over Weiand over the other options. I can't wait to see your engine in action.
Thanks
+Bill Mayer The 90's pulleys are the best deal!
It was a fairly easy choice on the brand, I'm a huge fan of the Holley family of products so I go to their webpage and Weiand is the option for Super Chargers there and I love the old school looks and simplicity of the 174. I just put together a large order for my fuel line and fittings on the Earl's section last night!
I will be following for sure! I just found your you tube channel and it is great! The best instructions I have found! keep up the good work!
what are you using for thread sealant? high temp permetex?
Yes.
What was the manifold gasket you used? Do you have a parts list?
That was just a set of small block Ford gaskets from Edelbrock that I got at my local pep boys.
This is literally the exact build I'm going to be doing with my 69 Fastback..
+GunfightersINC OH MAN! That is hands down...my dream car. Good luck on your build up!
I like it👍🏼
what did he forget to do at 5:27
In your opinion, how much power can the 302 reliably make (assuming it's not a Dart block). Also, assuming you're going with the T5, how much can that handle?
General rule of thumb about 500hp for the motor and about 300tq with a stock T5
Maybe get it to handle if you want to keep it in one piece.
what carburator are you using? how many 625 or 750 cfm?
I ended up going with the Holley Terminator EFI which is very close to a 750 and worked great.
Hi Jason. Dayum! That was a great video Man. I love what you've done with the 302. This suckers gonna boogie when you're all done. That is if Fred gives you a few days off to do more work on it, lol. Glad to hear you're enjoying your work on Dirt Everyday., yet another of my favorite CZcams shows to watch. When are we gonna see you on Roadkill? lol ttyl -Drew
+Supradrew™ Ha! It's all good...being busy is better than not having anything! Those Roadkill guys seem to be doing really awesome lately, I'm just glad to get to work with them every once in a while. Hope you are doing good my friend!
red solo cup video
How much boost is the 174 charger good for
I think 4-6
looking for a supercharger for a first gen lightning 351 Windsor motor, anyone know where something like this can be found
There is a version of this blower for 351 as well.
"Belts are for pants" "Bags are for groceries" Ben, do you even have a turbo charged vehicle?
jegs.com they sell these superchargers
M112 Eaton. Thank me later
kinda surprised you didn't use a multy layer steel style gasket and also did you use 2 gaskets and was that to loose a small amount of compression..
I was told this engine didn't have very high compression to begin with and the terminator EFI can manage the timing for me so we'll see how it goes!
Where are you located
you are turning the blower opposite to correct rotation. air is forced around the outside of the lobes, not down through the center.
Good info
Man I love your build. I'm sorta following your build with my car.except I don't have the money to get the sweet parts. So I've resorted to used parts. my 1973 Mustang is built by craigslist and swap meets.I have a bunch of pics of me yanking the engine out and doing other stuff. But I've been a ways to go to get the money to do what you're doing.
*got a ways
+TheSamplebridge I really like your build up too! Keep it going!!!
autoedit im getting my friends dads engine shop put the engine together because i fear getting stuff like piston ring gap and valve lash is too complicated for me with my current knowledge and i will somehow mess up. im now tearing my one car down to a bare frame to see what i can use on another car which is gonna be the car im using.
Isn't the supercharger in the way of the thermostat housing now to install a hose
+chadillac469 Yup, I did have to clearance out a little bit on that bracket to fit a hose on there.
Did you know holding the top of your torque wrench like you can change your torque due to the pressure you apply. You should try and hold the arm only.
Good advice.
Stock internals?, Have a 306, what compress/ratio should I be good if I got same super charger
I honestly don't know the right answer to that. Watch the engine masters show when they used this blower for better information.
@@AutoEdits all good, I heard you can get away with a stock 302 and slap it in but wasn't sure
@@k-atreyu378 Yes for sure you can put this on a stock engine. It was actually designed with that in mind.
Hi there! Let me start off by saying you're doing a great job on that car! I have a '73 Grandé myself and I'm VERY envious of your work!
I'm curious, though. I'm assuming that supercharger is going to add quite a bit of height to the engine. What kind of hood are you planning on running?
+GrandStang Yes, the hood will be a bit of a challenge. At this point, I would like to keep everything under the hood so that may mean creatively welding a "power bulge" or something...stay tuned we'll find out together!
+autoedit NICE! I can't wait to see how that turns out!
the first video I seen of this guy and he's already sold I just subscribed I plan to do a Ford 302 supercharged engine and put it in my ford ranger it's got that 2.5 litre disaster and since it was my grandfather's I would like to keep the truck but everytime I Drive it it sounds like hell through a certain temperature range it might be a sensor but I've just had enough of this BS
+Pcwizard20ghz Hey thanks and welcome to the channel! I really like the 302 as a start...keep me posted when you dig in on your project!
I believe you misunderstood the "174 " )or shaver the exact number was) and how it applies. While the number relates to cubic inches its how much air the blower pushes through per rotation. So in our case about 174 inches per rev of the blower which turns at some multiple (overdriven) of engine speed. Thus if your blower turns at twice engine speed it will push more air than the engine displaces causing pressure to build up in the plenum... like putting water into a leaky bucket ... if you put more in than can flow out the level (pressure) will rise. And that's what you want. Atmospheric pressure is 14.7 psi so if you are putting 50 percent more air in than can get out the pressure of the air in the plenum should be about 18 -19 or 1,5 bar ... yielding a net increase of about .5 bar above atmospheric or as we say "7 pounds of boost" ... Want more boost? turn the blower faster with a smaller pull on the snout. Too much boost? use a larger pull on the blower. Pretty simple.
No, I fully understand what this super charger does.
Looks like your heads could use a good O fashion port and polish job.
I had them "re-done" at a local shop... does a port and polish do much on a small engine like this?
@@AutoEdits thats cool. I only mentioned it cause their was some metal showing through the gasket. Good job
Where did you get the supercharger??
holley.com
What pulley kit is that?
It's the 6 or 8 lb pulley. Low boost.
I've seen 4 people putting blowers on in the 19 80's forget to take the tape/paper off the bottom using my dad's garage late at night.Finnigan also forgot to on I think Blasphemi. expensive part ,no one wants to be the guy who drops it
Looks sweet but this blower and no intercooler.....a great inefficient air heater that robs more power than it makes.
Hey did you drink a few before this episode?
Can i buy the old power steering pump
I don't think I have it anymore.
why didn't you use sealer for the gaskets ?
+2R98 I only use sealer where it's needed.
+autoedit don't you need sealer for the heads and intake ?