Carbs & Fructose Make Fat Loss Impossible (New Research)
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- New details are emerging finding fructose is a major driver of obesity and metabolic disease.
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0:00 Intro
0:25 The Fructose Survival Hypothesis theory of obesity.
1:10 Fructose reduces the active energy within your cells.
2:50 Table sugar contains glucose and fructose.
2:55 Excessive glucose can be converted into fructose.
4:10 Fructose kinase enzyme is a key initiator of deleterious fructose/glucose effects.
4:55 Leptin causes you to seek more food. Excess fructose/glucose drives hyperleptinemia.
6:45 Fruit sugar increases body fat storage to help you survive the winter.
7:24 Aging pathways are disrupted with high levels of blood sugar.
10:00 Uric acid, and liver enzyme elevation may be biomarkers.
12:10 High carb/high salt diets increase risk of diabetes.
Lets not get it twisted, the sugar in a candy bar is not metabolized the same way as the sugar in organic fruits.
I remember a friend when we were around 13, his mom sweetened everything with fructose and the whole family was grossly obese with diabetes...eventually he saved his life with Keto/Sugarbusters but the mom, dad and two sisters all have died since from diabetic complications.
Jesus. What do you mean his mother’s sweetened everything with fructose? With table sugar? Or is there a syrup called fructose?
Sounds like my sibling’s future. They won’t listen and four sisters have diabetes
@@HH-gv8mxI use to do a high carb sports diet years ago. I “sacrificed” my budget to buy fructose. It was a more expensive form of table sugar.
Our families grew up with false information, sugar is a drug addiction.
Please study the process' and situations by which sugar is turned to fat, and understand diabetes is caused by fat cells blocking receptors and other such things in the body. Sugar doesn't easily get stored as fat. More likely, their body burned all that sugar and stored all the fat they ate on their bodies, causing obesity and diabetes years later.
Dr. Johnson’s book “Nature Wants us to be Fat” for more details on fructose and fattening.
Mike I’ve given up on low carb/KETO cuz everything advertised low carb/KETO snacks and bread has all the same ingredients even more things I have no idea what it is then the regular carbs. I’ve gone carnivore, this summer I’ll be processing my first steer raised on my farm and I’ll be free of the poisoned American food supply.
You hit the nail on the head it's not the keto diet. It's the manufactured foods of all kinds. Vegan processed foods are unhealthy. It's the processing that's killing us.
But why go carnivore when nature has fruits, grains, vegetables, all of which you could also grow? You're aware that everyone whose undertaken a hard carnivore diet long term has had negative health effects, and has to find doctors willing to lie to them to keep up appearences on the internet? When they post their results, you can see it for yourself. Then they say their doctor says their fine. If i showed up in a video bleeding from my face and said a doctor said it's fine, i'm healthy, no one would beleive me. But alot of people beleive this so called infleuncers. If it's on CZcams, and it has good production value, it's FOR PROFIT, you're a customer at best, a stat in their adsense at worst. They don't care about your health. They care about how much you care about your health can help line their pockets with ad revenue and what products they can shill to you.
there you go! congrats
Agreed.
Carnivore was a game changer for me too.
It fits.
Life is meant to be lived in cycles, not ruts.
It is winter time, appropriate for me to do some fasting & restrict calories.
I heard it was grellin, which does this.
Leptin tends to kick in, when
Working out, especially cardio
Corn syrup in sodas, is WORSE than CANE SUGAR
one cane sugar soda, when i have them, is not the same as basic corn syrup types
People didnt use to smack much, until atound 1980s
Gas stations used to be only for gas ⛽
Not coffee, and junk food.
@@kathleenking47 They all have fructose, which is a molecule. The source doesn't matter.
Not true, cane sugar is sucrose
@@telamenais4409 Aand some basic chemistry, from Wikipedia:
_"Sucrose, a disaccharide, is a sugar composed of glucose and _*_fructose_*_ subunits. It is produced naturally in plants and is the main constituent of white sugar."_
Every time you mention "polyol," I have the immediate reaction of visualizing AMPK (5' adenosine monophosphate-activated protein kinase), which is the molecule that the nucleus uses to signal the mitochondria to grow and/or multiply, in order to increase energy supply to the cell. Polyol (a midpoint of fructose metabolism) binds permanently to AMPK and inactivates it, so the mitochondria never get the message and the cell starts to decay (leading to cell death) from lack of energy. *This is the polyol-hypothesis for dementia and other brain-degenerative diseases.*
Maybe gmo high fructose syrup. Not fruit, I've seen people lose 100 pounds eating only fruit and upping calories
Ever heard of steve Jobs? he was an apple-fanatic and ate lots of fruit also. Died of pancreatic cancer. Eating nothing but fruit is fine as it cuts out the junk, but it's too high in fructose, and too hard on the pancreas as you're basically eating nothing but carbs, and the diet is deficient in protein. You can do it when you're young and naive. Doing it when over 40?---playing with fire.
HFCS is likely gmo. It’s made from corn, which is a heavily gmo’d.
contrarian604 ever hear of the dirty dozen? Apples have topped that list pretty much since it was first started. Perhaps don't be so quick to point the finger at a fruit that has been domesticated for thousands of years for the sins of heavy chemical agriculture that is as recent as the cancer epidemic.
it doesn't matter where the fructose comes from, the fructose molecule is the same
I eat mainly meat, dairy, and fruit. I feel great. Much better than when I was Keto or Carnivore. Athletic performance is improved, energy levels higher, putting on muscle mass more easily. No plans to eliminate or reduce fruit intake just because it contains fructose.
Dairy, particularly bovine milk, has been shown in some trials to alter hormonal profiles in men and women. I don't know the strength of the evidence and whether it applies to protein isolates or butters, but it's worth noting. But meat and fruit had me feeling absolutely great and light, but it seemed my lifts suffered somewhat.
@VegetaPrinceOfSaiyans nonsense. Completely not true.
It takes at least 6 weeks to adjust to low carb such that athletic performance returns to what was on a higher carb diet. The original test with cyclists was 2 weeks long. The results were horrible. A second test was 6 weeks and the performances at the end of it were similar to their pre-low carb diet performance. Other factors improved too. Several ultra endurance / ultra marathoners have adopted low carb because they don’t need to eat as much during the event because they’re burning body fat.
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Like i said, I'm not sure if this applies to protein isolates or butters, but from whole milk the effects are likely
I’m 6% body fat and eat about 700 calories of fruit everyday
Lmao what! 😂
Please elaborate on what the 700 cal look like. Thanks
How much exercise/ activity?
What else do you eat?
@@chrismacdonald4570 - I lift weights twice per week, go boxing twice per week and try to get 10k steps a day. My diet is normally eggs, red meat, chicken, Icelandic yogurt, kale, spinach, raw honey, potatoes. Those kinds of things and that’s what I feel best eating.
@@franciscoadolfo5805ok. 7 bananas
Is really connects a lot of various pieces from different parts of human health, metabolics sugar, fatty liver and many of the things. Thanks for sharing this and of course I've shared it around
Fruit juices and table sugar should have a warning like cigarettes. I have friends that say that they can't drink coffee without a sweetener. Coffee should be bitter and is easy to get used to.
I have heard all this multiple times before, but you explain it in a way that makes it easier to remember than most.
Thanks Mike.
Very helpful explanation. Your presentations are crucial in today’s societies of chronic disease. 👏
Most of these experiments use pure fructose, which simply never happens in nature.
The most robust theory concerning obesity relies on seed oils, cell membrane lipid peroxydation and disturbance of the endocannabinoid system induced by chronically elevated consumption of omega-6. The leptin theory is very insufficient and the fructose stuff has been pushed for decades to no avail.
Them how come cutting out seed oils has done nothing for my health or weight?
where there are seed oils, there are 'oses
The only influence seed oils have on obesity is the fact that they're high calorie and added to hyper palatable junk foods. It's all calories in calories out, and tasty junk food helps you eat more calories, that simple.
@Finn959, Other than weight, what objective measures of health did you take before giving up seed oils, and have you compared to new results? Any labs? How long since you gave up seed oils?
@@Finn959 seed oils effect at the mitochondria. Cutting them out won’t drive weight loss. To burn body fat, insulin must be driven low enough that your body releases hormones to tap into the fat stores. Adkins didn’t create the low carb diet he made it popular. He also tweaked it. He had the person do 2 weeks at less than 20 grams of carbs. After, you can increase it to 50 grams. This is to lower insulin. The original diet was that you water fasted (0 calories) for 3 days - I think this would be better. Adkins didn’t think most people would do it.
I'm eating only meat and eggs, and I've lost loads of weight. But I still can't seem to stop putting a teaspoon a day of local honey into my matcha. It's just too good.
But I feel amazing since cutting carbs down to less than 10 a day.
maple syrup is only 4% fructose while honey is 40%
@@KJB0001thanks for the tip
The poison is in the quantity. The amount of honey you’re eating is tiny. The fructose warning is more appropriate for people who eat a lot of processed food. Most are full of sugar and have little fiber. Honey also has antioxidants. Diet doesn’t have to be absolutely perfect. And your diet is really good.
Please add some lower carb fruit and some green vegetables. Also, take a multivitamin.
Quit drinking matcha and do water with key nutrient electrolytes. I quit caffeine after 54 years.and I am a hard core carnivore and only drink water and I am zero carb..
On the hospital after second heart attack I turned plant based no oil.I was diabetic 2. Four meals a day one liter of orange juice every day (not part of plant based) diabetes cured in matter of weeks .Seventy pounds off in seven months
Yikes on the orange juice
@@Kwildcat13 best tasting liquid in the world 🍺
yes, losing weight tends to help with diabetes regardless of how you do it, but that doesn't help if you are lean when you get diabetes, at that point you need to look elsewhere
@@defeqel6537 seems a little bit more complicated than that.Dr.Gabriel Cousens diet cures diabetes in less than ten days
No way what you saying is true
Thanks!
I do carnivore/ketovore mainly for mental health and weight loss. I notice that after eating fruit (even strawberries and blueberries) my anxiety returns with a vengeance and carb cravings as well. I would love to be a "Paul Saladino type" and eat yummie meat with honey and fruit but i just cant if i want to feel mentally strong.
Everyone has different issues due to immune system function and such. I think it’s important for people to take initiative for their own well-being, like you do, and figure out what they can tolerate and what they cannot; what foods make them feel good and heal them and what foods make everything worse.
increase fat for cognition and are your berries organic, home grown, or sprayed with neurotoxins - pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35562999/#:~:text=In%20this%20systematic%20review%2C%20we,formulations%20induces%20several%20neurotoxic%20effects.
Eat fermented food until you've developed the right microbiome and down the line you will be able to eat more things
@@jagmichaelgilbert8523bleh I can’t do fermented anything
This was me last year and basically what was happening was that I was actually very nutritionally deficient. After being carnivore for 6 months, which cleared my mind and healed my gut, I started incorporating fruit and cooked vegetables back into my diet because while I felt healthy, my intuition was telling me it wasn’t a way to eat long term.
So far I don’t feel any different and am in fact a little bit happier than when on carnivore. I think glucose helps the brain as well though I don’t know how. But the main difference is I noticed a drastic improvement in my skin tone after re-incorporating fruits and veggies. Not so much in breaking out or acne because I never had that problem but my face went from pink and ashy on carnivore to an even glow.
The last bit you mentioned about sodium seems to be a common lynch pin in most viewpoints. To expand on the sodium restriction would be the sodium/potassium ratio and how it affects cell permeability. Sure, cutting back in salt always helps however, increasing potassium is just as important to a successful regime.
as was insinuated in the video, salt seems to only matter in high glucose diets
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A great takeaway is in the winter time please don't eat out of a box. A small apple every second or third day will keep the doctor away in the winter. Enjoy meats, soups and salads... a proper winter diet!
Yes, homegrown apples if possible. I eat a sharp apple every couple of days, I also need a Naval orange every other couple of days. I just feel better for this albeit I have had great anti inflamitory results over this past 9 years but have learned I also need some phenolic foods. So 'Eat the seasonal rainbow ' still helps me. We are all unique. Best wishes to you. 👍
I say an egg a day keeps the doctor away!
thanks
I’m around 12% body fat; macro split:
2,000 calories (deficit)
215g protein
130-150g carb (depending on the workout)
65g protein
My carb sources:
Low glycemic fruit
Tubers
White rice
Raw rolled oats
Raw honey
Raw beet
Raw carrot
I think these foods are fine within reason / consuming the energy you need.
I figured this out 10 years ago, and have been telling the low carb community for a while...it's not new research...it's just new to you guys that are just coming across Johnson's work now...
Does it help curve this effect at all when you have apple cider vinegar before consumption of carbs or sugar
I think its also important to consider all the Enviromental pollution. The body is one whole system. Stress one place, aggravates issues elsewhere. I am convinced that if the water was clean, the air was clean, the food was free of pesticides and herbicides, and there was no plastic in our food chain, the obesity problem would be cut in half over night. Chronic inflammation via immune response to pollution makes weight loss 5x harder.
Yeah I agree with that. I’m very interested in all the anecdotal and medical trends with the carnivore diet and keto diet, and I personally tend to feel better when I don’t eat so many carbs. But I also can definitely see how different people would look and feel without all this processed junk, pollution and additives we see in our diets today. It’s virtually impossible in a grocery store to find much that doesn’t contain highly processed, inflammatory oils (canola, soybean, sunflower, palm, etc.) or preservatives or other compounds humans clearly weren’t meant to consume. I believe a lot of how many foods are made or prepared now is tied up in money - government subsidizes the awful farming practices and oil production that causes so many health problems for people. It’s really sickening. Idk if there will ever be a time we can turn it around and instead have subsidized humane ranches and organic, earth-friendly farming, and use good oils like olive, avocado, butter etc. in groceries & fast food instead of the crap they use currently.
If you compare the sanitation and environmental conditions in industrialized countries today (outside China) conditions are better than at any time in history. Look back at the conditions in the early industrial revolution or Victorian England. Sanitation, nutrition and environmental conditions for the average worker were abysmal compared to now. This is the real reason the so called infectious diseases were so widespread. With the advent of sanitation and better nutrition all of these maladies dropped to practically nothing.
@@marktapley7571 you clearly dont understand how fundamentally different pollution and sanitation issues are. Widespread infectious disease didnt make people fat bro. Its very rare an illness acts as a major endocrine disruptor. Even more rare that a pregnant mother exposed to a certain germ will have significantly altered offspring. Glyphosate neuters males in their mother's womb. Environmental pollution is a huge issue right now.
@@AdventurousGainzHe's exactly right. People are fat because they choose to be fat. Most are living in survival. Eating strictly only needs makes you not fat
Eating shitty oats soaked in glyfosates reduces penile tissue mass in adult males but we're all gona just pretend the food we get at the grocery is 100% safe and body friendly
TRANSLATE in to action please. What does this MEAN. Should we NOT eat fruit??? I hate the fructose topic, no on ever talks about fruit when they say the word fructose.
Eat the fruit
Some people are more sensitive to fruit or certain fruits just due to immune response. Everyone is different. If you can tolerate it and it makes you feel good, eat it! I don’t see why not. Probably best to eat organic if you can (avoid the pesticides and whatnot), but whatevs. Wash it at the very least.
You can eat fruit. Just don't do it everday.
@Priestessoffun, that’s an absurd generalization founded in nothing. Some days I eat fruit every meal. I am lean healthy and even thriving better than when I followed Keto or Carnivore.
Don't eat
… as a German Biologist -
This is about our Life Style
and the conditioned PAIN - REWARD Pattern
We are tsunamied
with all sorts of Temptations each step we go
If we go any steps at all
Instant BIGG Over Rewards
to silence any faint image of “PAIN”
It takes intense De Conditioning training
To be even aware of this deep Malware in the Auto Pilot
No rational way to ever change that
So if you eat a cantaloupe or a melon, or a cup of grapes, a day… You’re eating fructose?
@@HH-gv8mxit is the state of Metabolism
how well you metabolize
demands intense DETOXXXXX
Fasting
Impulse Control
Instinct and Intuition
I've been thinking something along these lines for a few years now, though without the detailed microbiology. The reason people can't stop binging on carbs is because we were not designed to. We fatten and lean in cycles that track the seasons. When the plants are fruiting, it's time to gorge to get ready for the winter. Grain agriculture is not in harmony with our natures. Funny that it was an apple that got Adam and Eve expelled from Eden.
We also have fruits available year round. Some, that don’t even grow in our own country. Fruits have also been GMOd to be sweeter.
Nowhere is the identity of the forbidden fruit given in Scripture. Some speculate that the idea of its being an apple may have begun when the Bible was translated into Latin. The Latin word for "apple" is mālum, which is very similar to another Latin word, mălum, which means "evil."
@zm2520 very cool. Thanks. I didn't know that.
This makes total sense! You have literally figured out Gods design. Excellent work!
This may help explain the link some have between type-2/ insulin resistance and Gout
I think all of you influencers need to really define where the fructose is coming from. It seems like fructose is the hot topic for everyone to rip on. Now are you referring to fruit and honey or HFCS and processed foods. Are you talking to general audience, sedentary people or people who train 7 days a week. This is very confusing and there is literally nothing left to eat because everything will kill you.
I cut out salt from eating out . I cook at home from scratch and add Redmonds or Celtic salt to taste after meal is cooked . Off BP meds ! I read the Salt Fix . I had no idea my body NEEDS salt ! I also cut out sugar which I think helped . I still have 20 pounds to lose . That is what I’m working on now .
Fructose is in fruit and vegetables. It's natural. Therefore, i'm eating it.
Humans evolved in the tropics where fruit is available year round
Accurate. Humans only moved into temperate and cold regions very recently.
Sugar in diet (blood) is playing with fire 🔥 anything more than a teaspoon in your bloodstream 🩸 and you’re dead ☠️
Except stable isotope analysis of our ancestors shows we ate a diet of predominantly meat going back hundreds of thousands of years.
@@leemanwrong Ty could you give me the name of the study?
@@mikecain6947 humans were apex predators for two million years from tel aviv university. I think this is how you can find ut
I lost 40 pounds while eating fruit and honey uninhibited but fully cut out processed carbs
I think in moderation. I eat strawberries and blueberries as my carb sources along with things like squash and some potatoes. I’m also engaging in activities daily and I believe if your eating fruit vs cereal and other SAD diet foods is a win
You nailed it. I eat tons of fruit. I wake up and drink water, coconut water, milk, 2 bananas, an apple, and cheese. Then I eat an orange or 2 asking with my white rice and chicken. For dinner I eat more fruit and drink milk along with my dinner. I make pizza from scratch. I've been doing this for about 1 year now (I just started making pizza recently). I cannot gain weight and I'm healthier than ever. This way of eating is fixing what 1 year of keto and 4 years of carnivore diets damaged.
@@mikieemiike3979 much respect to this channel. I love it and we are definitely in need of changes in the dietary realm in the US. But it comes to a point where you can make a point to discontinue all foods.
Keep your diet and life simple. Whatever that is to you and you will live a happy life. Not all dietary patterns work for everyone, but a few key pillars I agree should be followed by all.
@@tybatchelor I'm all for it. Mind you, I was a 1 year keto and 4 year carnivore guy. This new clean high carb diet is way better than the previously mentioned. I've spent countless hours studying and talking to other carnivores and keto people. I went to the hospital so many times due to issues that the carnivore diet caused. My wife met someone at her clinic who was experiencing the exact same symptoms as me. I've never been to the hospital as many times ever in my 36 years of existence. There are studies that show people who live in undeveloped territories and live in 80-90% carbs. I can attest to that myself. There's a point where a human body is not so different from the next, mechanistically.
@@mikieemiike3979 You're gonna need to be more specific with your "damage that carnivore diet did." Because what you're saying is a load of hogwash right on its face. You're diet is basically a fruitarian diet with the worst quality protein (chicken) you can eat and you're making the ridiculous claim that you're better now than when you were carnivore for 4 years? My eye.
Glycation from your fruit consumption alone is wrecking havoc on your body right now, not to mention your intake of wheat and rice.
"I cannot gain weight." Yeah, because you're not getting enough protein and fat in your diet and most of your nutrition comes from highly deficient carbohydrate sources. You're wasting away and you think you're doing fine.
Those "undeveloped territories" where people consume mostly carbs in their diet...those people are sicker as compared to their omnivorous developed territory cousins and tribal carnivorous cousins. In every case. No group of people who's diet is mostly carbohydrates and plants is outperforming or healthier than their opposites who indulge in meat. This is as ridiculous a claim as blue zone crap.
Mike! I love your videos, please post the research papers in the show notes before you publish the video.
I am wondering about where this fits with the studies on plastics as an endocrine disrupter.
Layne Norton, on deck lol
I would also lile to see if there are any studies in frutarians and any risk of nafld and or gaining weight
I’ve seen a few friends thrive on a high fruit diet. Really thrive! Caveat is, they are quite metabolically healthy and lean. I wager that the culprit is high fructose in the presence of PUFA(either from diet or adipose on the one’s body) is what creates a cascade for obesity.
'Eat right, be active, and dont get fat' seems to be the message we need to get to people.
So many effects are connected to various dietary causes via the 'getting fat' intermediate step.. so dont get fat 😉
I'm a type 1 diabetic on an animal based diet, I'll have raw milk once a day. I really want to see more of these studies done on people with type 1, as it feels like a lot of them would get very different results
When you say hi sodium diet, can you differentiate between sea salt and table salt, being the main culprit?
Lost most weight when I was fruitarian/only ate fruit. Whether through healthy weight loss or malnourishment.
I need to hear Paul Saladino's take on this.
Blocks D3 conversion as well
Fruitarians eat tons of fructose and they are seldom fat, quite the opposite.
If you eat the whole fruit, you’re ok. Fruit has fiber which reduces the negatives of fructose.
This is what is confusing me. I understand (to a degree) what was explained in the video, but if someone is already lean and only gets their calories only from fruit (not supporting that), and they burn all the calories they consume, then are the carbs STILL an issue?
Probably why it always comes back to total energy consumed and spent, than what were eating when it comes to weight loss. I actually tried a very high fruit diet at one point because i like to experiment, lost weight, felt bad, brain fog was real.
That duet killed Steve Jobs.
@@user-mq1od7fx5lThey’re likely ok. But fructose is the cause of insulin resistance, which can result in higher blood sugar. It’s hidden. You can’t see it. And they’re finding pre-diabetes and even people bordering on metabolic syndrome in thin people. Type 2 diabetics who are thin tend to have worse health than fat type 2 diabetics.
Fructose is the “sweetness” in sugar and fruit. Just make sure to eat fruits that are less sweet. For example, have read that it’s better to eat green bananas than yellow.
Johnson's book, Nature Wants Us To Be Fat, is a great read as is Perlmutter's book Drop Acid. Understanding metabolism will yield huge dividends for peronal health. Both of Lane's books, Transformer, and Power, Sex, Suicide are groundbreaking, as is Pollack's book Cells, Gells, and the Engines of life. We should teach this new microbology in HS.
So is my book, "Cavemen Weren't Fat." I mention all the carnivore influencers, but I feature Richard Johnson more than anybody because he is my mentor when it comes to understanding obesity.
So, cut out the winter citrus? I have a huge supply November to February from local Arizona citrus. I enjoy it.
There is no data to support only eating fruit during certain seasons. Humans evolved in the tropics with year round access to fruit. We only moved into temperate and cold regions very recently from an evolutionary perspective. Ripe fruit is species appropriate food for human.
Look up Weston A Price. He traveled the world in the 1930s and saw that the people were healthy despite eating radically different diets. The only unhealthy people were the ones eating the Western diet.
If you buy into this theory, another factor would be the changing of the seasons. Your body knows it’s getting colder. You don’t experience any of it and are eating fruits native to your area. You’re just fine.
So this is a topic that would also be great to cover from the point of view of an athlete or, someone also training running sprints and such. Also, I don’t get why there’s such hype around the fall-fat-storage if there’s no fall in the tropics :)
Most people don’t live in the tropics.
@@aieahi1 seems like most of the fall winter storage hypothesis has main reasoning through evolutionary theory. However, evolutionary theory is always supporting the development of life, particularly in the tropics before going elsewhere. I think it’s also universally agreed upon that once life developed in the tropics it stayed there, regardless of whether other life spread. This is why it would make an interesting discussion.
Is this what Jason Fung MD was talking about a few years ago?
yes but it's nice to have controlled studies
Look into videos about the Rararmi diet.
I have been taking barbering for one year now since I bought the myoscience brand Mike recommends. Are there any downsides to taking berberine long-term? Is it OK to have been taking it for this long?
It's fine, but I wouldn't chronically take it with meals containing protein. Berberine blunts the MTOR response, minimizing muscle growth/repair.
People just don't want admit to what's right in front of their faces, ultra processed modern foods, stay away from it and you'll be fine, no more problems.
Agree. It's man made junk food
Well that's step one..
You will save some money too.
This rabbit-hole leads to either Vegan or Carnivore if you make the final choice. If you cant decide then you stop at whole-food Omni.
Glucose/Fructose represents like 10% of the obesity problem seed oils are BY FAR the biggest cause
Then how come hundreds of years ago, rich people who could afford sugar when it was extremely expensive got fat and sick before seed oils were invented?
I think no one has discriminated seed oils vs sugar/carbs because they basically go hand-in-hand with SAD and Plant-based diets.
Studies that focus on plant-based diets typically assume that the seed oils and carbs(sugar) are healthy, and assume that high protein concentration and saturated fat are bad. This affects the study design in a confusing way that makes 'not showing' the effects of sugar and seed oils easier.
That leptin stuff I can sure relate to. Wish I could fix it.
@@kathleenking47 doing best I can. More I work out and exercise, more I crave
Fermenting is the answer to mitigate or lower oxalates, lectins, and higher sugars.
@@texaslovelyladymy husband has been experimenting with fermenting. So far so good ☺️
to regulate Leptin, research Berberine, Gymnema Sylvestre, Chromium, or a shot of organic apple cider vinegar
@@KJB0001 ACV never helped. Took that for a year. Berberine always interested me
Debate Layne Norton on carbs
Do you count a high carb diet if your diet is high in carbs from vegetables and maybe one or two fruits that you eat a day? I don’t eat rice or pasta. Occasionally I will have some sweet potatoes or I will dice up one little yellow gold potato. But most of my carbs come from vegetables, almonds, bananas, grapes. Is that high carb?
Interesting boggle..
It seems you have mostly cut the worst carbs for being sugar generators in the body.
I think of veges as carbs/nutrients protected by fiber and pesticides. Each type of plant has defenses which we can overcome to a greater or lesser degree.
The white starches.. instant sugar.
The dark greens etc.. lower amounts of slow release sugar with effectively indigestible nutrients.
Perhaps eating too much white starches is the road to diabetes and obesity..
And perhaps tough greens only is the path to malnutrition and starvation..
All of the above is predicated on the idea that prioritizing carbs (high carb) displaces protein and natural saturated fats.
When you prioritize protein it effectively de-prioritizes carbs and vegetables because you have about 2000Cal to allocate to foods, and Protein can typically be up to 50% of that. A plant-based diet might be 10% protein, and effectively be fewer Calories than people think due to digestibility limitations.
I eat 15 dates, 2 bananas and a large glass of fresh orange juice daily and I’m 139lbs at 5ft 9
Ground meat, lots of yoghurt, egg yolks, lots of cacao nibs, some veggies, little bit of rice, very occasionally just “normal food” like Italian takeout, and my dishes are always spiced up with a lot of asian herbs and spices (ginger, galangal, etc), 80% satiation, never too much food at once because of functional dyspepsia/GERD/IBS history that I’m gradually recovering from. I’ve done vegan, carnivore, even raw carnivore, but this whole foods, ground meat + eggs + yoghurt + fruit + some, not too much, but varied veggies and herbs works the best for me.
Body builders take insulin to absorb more nutrients from food. It makes sense limiting carbohydrates would lower insulin levels and not be in a fat storing state.
There’s no reason for them to take in insulin. Bodybuilders consumed carbs to increase insulin to help absorb protein. This is not necessary because protein causes an insulin spike, although much smaller than glucose.
Increased insulin tends to result in fat accumulation. There are type 1 diabetics who reduce their insulin shots to get lean. Also, bodybuilders divided their protein across many meals a day because it was believed the body could only absorb 30g at a time. This has since been disproven
so bananas are out? damn! Just damn.
I learned this from Dr Lustig and Dr Perlmutter a few months ago.
Who eats carbs in isolation. For example who eats rice itself? Or a bowl is noodles by itself. If you pair your carb (potato, rice fruit) with protein , fiber ad a little fat then your glucose will release at a slow rate. Thus preventing the spike which leads to metabolic problems. Does this study differentiate sugar from the fructose in berries? Or the glucose in quinoa? People run with this info and automatically think carbs or fructose is bad
Nobody is eating those in isolation because nobody is starving. Much like how vegans like to tout these blue zone myths about longevity and plant consumption, the places where this occurred, Okinawa for example...most people were eating only rice and sweet potato's and that's only because their entire fishing and pig industry was destroyed and that's all they could get.
Carbs ARE bad. Didn't you see the list of things it does to your body? Dementia, Alzheimer's, cancer, obesity, fatty liver, glycation, etc. These are survival foods at best. Eating them in any amount in a society where meat is always available is going to cause a litany of health problems down the road.
The body doesn't care if you put in fruit or rice because it all metabolizes into glucose. So it's all the same to it.
Please go watch some lectures from Bart Kay.
@highintensityhealth do think the “skinny fat” body type is a form of survival gene coming from famine thousands of years ago in certain regions of the world? Ex: some regions of the world, where they grow rice, and have plenty of fruits, but because of monsoons crops can be destroyed.
Please recap. The message is direct. Should we eliminate fruits from our diet ? Yes or no ?
Countless human evidence shows better health markers in people who eat fruits. Probably best to use fruit to replace desserts.
Fruit is merely a plants way to exploit animals to spread it seeds, the plant doesn’t care about your health.
Yes
I eat around 120 grams of fructose, not sugar, total fructose, from fruit ofc. I'm 10% BF
I am a vegetarian. I eat carbs, but primarily organic fruit, and I have a decent amount of Celtic Salt and Himalayan Pink Salt that I add to my Distilled Water... I'm on an intermittent fasting diet and I have lost 30lbs in the last few months.
Your activity level and your metabolism matters!!!
Of course it matters what you do, but it mostly matters what you eat and when... a lot of these studies are skewed because it seems like they rarely use good quality foods and they are tested on animals, not humans!!!
I'm fully aware of mainstream health beliefs, but I believe that Dr Sebi figured out the best diet and the way to heal people from just about anything and everything!!!
I think people would be wise to try the sustenance lifestyle(diet) that Dr Sebi discovered!!!
Veganism u mean?
as long as i am in a caloric defeceit, i loose weight. even if it is alot of fruits...it the junk food, sugar, candy and cakes, that make me eat to much and want to eat more. . but eating high protein and reducing carbs, makes me less hungry on caloric defeceit...but still for me apple, orange, or a banana a day seem to be any problem.
Agree. The longest living humans on earth have a mixed diet. My mom ate lots of fruit and we were taught to eat fruit and veg. She lived to 89 and her mother 96.
yes, and i bet it is the junk and sugar that is the problem for most of us, not nightshades veggies or friut.@@emotionaleaters241
So you're saying dont eat too much, and dont get fat..
I can agree with that.
Once you are 'not fat' the questions become less certain. 🤔
Your fruit consumption probably helps for 'regularity' and 'consistency'.
I agree with just about everything Dr Johnson has said in his book " Nature Wants us to Be Fat" whose principles you just expounded on; however we part ways on his limits for dietary saturated fats, in which he advises in the last chapters of his book, that we should not consume more than 10 per cent of daily caloric needs from this macronutrient ; I do not know where he gets this figure from; even the JACC among others , in their most recent review article, states that there is no upper limit advised now ,for the amount of dietary saturated fat consumed...
I'm Johnson's biggest fan. I have been following him for years, and I comment on most of his videos, but he's still believes in the propaganda about saturated fat. I read the book too, and he advises "The Switch Diet" which is low in saturated fat. Johnson seems to be in line with a lot of the government guidelines when it comes to other macronutrients. He seems to be kind of liberal, and trusts the system a little too much to question it. He also does talks about climate change, which has confirmed his trusting the system a little too much for my liking...
Yeah, I remember at Thanksgiving I ate 3 blueberries and gained 14 pounds and can't keep it off.
I went from 160 to 120 eating ice cream and carbs every day lol
Ok but this is a very white European/northern hemisphere perspective. Fruits are highly available year round in the equatorial tropics with low rates of obesity.
I will eat fruit no matter what a study says.
okay with me... KKB.. kanya kanya bike muna 😂
I lost fat on 500 carbs a day 60g fat and high protein. Felt good as hell too.
5:57 But of course, they will need vitamins and minerals etc, we need magnesium, potassium, b12, vit D, vit C.. etc. And then there's also ketoacidosis, which is actually possible in non-diabetic people, there has been a recorded case where a non-diabetic woman was admitted for ketoacidosis and treated after she went on a keto diet (she was lactating at the time, so they think this could have turbocharged the ketone levels present).
I got confused. Doesn't leptin promote satiety and ghrelin is the one promoting food-seaking behavior? 😵💫
Quitting fructose and other sugars is a 1000x worse experience than quitting nicotine. I am aiming for losing another 10 pounds which will then give me a 70 pound total weight loss. The best part is that I feel so much better and my blood pressure is normal. The worse part is that the sugar cravings are still there, like the shadow of Mordor. I just do not eat junk food anymore.
So if you live in a tropical area that has fruit all year long and you eat it all year long you wont gain fat.but if you live in an area that fruit does not grow all year long but you still buy from the grocery store fruit and eat it all year long you get fat.is there any studies looking at metabolic healthy humans eating fruit.not some type of fructose or glucose concentrate...im talking fruit. is there any study like this
Does this indicate that we SHOULD be eating keto, or is the vast overconsumption of carbs the issue?
Since our bodies use carbs as a primary fuel source and only switch to burning ketones when carbs are unavailable, doesn't that suggest that we (generally) should ge consuming carbs as a primary fuel source?
Based on the aforementioned biochemistry, ketosis is likely most appropriate for overweight and obese patients.
In my opinion, that's why you see the more lean carnivores begin to include milk and honey (not preserving a ketotic state, but staying animal-based). Generally, humans historically would have had more appropriate hormonal responses and better balance of leptin and ghrelin from the food supply previously since it wasn't as rich in sucrose.
It would have been easier for them to enter ketosis naturally while fasting between meals, as the daily meals that they did eat would not have likely restored their liver glycogen to the point of it taking as long as it does to become ketotic.
For us nowadays, it can takes up to 4 days of fasting or a fasting-mimicking diet to create of newbies aren't fat-adapted prior.
All carbs to to sugar. The body only keeps 4 grams of sugar in the blood. Anything over 4 grams is toxic and the body increases insulin to get rid of it. That's why they think and say we run on carbs. Carbs are not essential and we can run just fine without carbs. It does take awhile to make the switch and I have been 95% carnivore for over 3 yrs with no problems at 67yrs old.
@@MicrobeMagisterwell said.
The vast overconsumption of CALORIES is the issue, which can come from either carbs or fats depending on one's diet. Keto is one of many ways to reduce caloric intake, but its by no means the only way.
Diets that equate calories but compare high carb vs high fat see equal levels of weight loss. IMO a balanced diet as per usual is the way to go unless keto is easier to stick to for you
Yes. Carbs / starches are the main source of calories in every underdeveloped country
Stop listening to this garbage. Eat Whole Foods. Done. That simple
I think fruit / fructose has a place.
My child was constantly getting thin do to growth vertically. Fruit had him fill out and then grow. He did not eat much. Children eat small amounts.
I also think women benefit from some fructose. Pregnancy & breastfeeding require a lot of energy. Keeping body fat up makes her healthy.
Now, I am not saying drink (2) liters of soda every day. A daily piece of fruit is probably adequate.
I lose weight as long as I only snack on gummy bears (fructose/gelatin) after dark. I do the "only bones after seven diet". The only restrictions are no seed oils, American wheat, and to not eat anything but gelatin after 7 (since fiber/protein late cause GERD).
Fermenting fructose containing foods makes lower glycemic.
nobody gets sick or fat eating fruits and good carbs
Sure they do. Diabetes.
How then am I losing weight eating mostly fruit, veges, beans and rice?
Because modern man is obsessive and has to have a secret answer to everything lol. I’m doing the same I’m dieting down for the summer I eat a bunch of fruit every day and eat over 300g of carbs a day and I’m still losing between 2-3 pounds a week fine. Weight gain and weight loss have to do with one thing alone how many calories you put in your body.
Caloric deficit. You’re going to look like a Gumby with no muscle but you’ll lose weight for sure .
Important question to ask is - are you losing fat? Or muscle mass? Meat is the most nutrient dense food and we are literally made of it. If you stop eating meat forever you won’t last very long and will be very frail. Losing “weight” is not equivalent to being metabolically or otherwise healthy. Retaining muscle becomes increasingly important the older you get.
They don't want to admit calories in calories out do matter. I think your eating less calories & fat that is why you are losing weight.
@@Romns1513 I’m eating a gram of protein per pound right now along with eating fruits and vegetables. I’ve lost over 24# of weigh and over all non of my lifts have gone down. Also meat might be one of the most nutrient dense foods but it lacks a lot of vitamins and minerals such as potassium, magnesium etc. so you have to supplement them, to me any diet that you have to take a supplement to stay functioning optimally is flawed.
Fruits were always available long before obesity was a pandemia. Problem with modern diet is the high caloric density and hyperpalable foods that are so addictive. Chocolate, cookies, ice cream, pizza and chips for example.
Fruits have high fiber, low to medium caloric density and low glycemic index. A study recommending fruit consumption showed it actually reduce body weight.
Sugar certainly is a problem and the pathway may include fructose but don't confuse this and blame it on fruits because that's not it.
Layne Norton says this is crap and it’s all invisible and devious calories
Can can you please debunk Nutrition by Victoria? She's recommending people eat a high carb diet with no fat and no protein
she has debunked herself by suggesting it, really why would you listen to such nonsense
@@AncientYouth64 Agreed. I replied to her once in a comment chain where she had stated "Utilizing gluconeogenesis for glucose production will result in muscle protein breakdown". I asked her what the source of that information was and how she knew it was correct. She never responded.
@@silasakron4692 why waste your time talking to some one who is clearly Nutz, like: flat earthers, Space is Fake, ....its just a waste of mental energy
@@AncientYouth64 because gullible desperate people are listening to her in desperation to lose weight, the problem is although yes I agree her method can work for weight loss they're also losing bone and muscle, but her clients all they can think is losing the weight they're not aware that doing her method is going to cost them big time later down the line , they will end up with not only sarcopenia but osteoporosis too
@@AncientYouth64 it's not a waste of time if you can convince people, (her clients who won't listen to random commenters on comment sections) that her method is totally unhealthy , yes Victoria lost the baby weight , yes she has a flat stomach, yes I believe she can help people lose weight but if she took a dexa scan today what will her bone density be? And what's going to happen to her kids as they get older not getting the proteins and fats they're growing bodies need?
And there are people following her weight loss method thinking this is the right way to lose weight without knowing the consequences of losing weight her way
Maybe if you eat excess calories it happens.
Maybe its just not enough antioxidants leading to unregulated NO, which leads to insulin resistance
Maybe with this, too many highly available proteins and nitrates/nitrites in the diet increases the effect
And sulfites
High fructose corn syrup makes me ravenously hungry … not feeling satiated regardless of how much I eat. I cut it out completely years ago and generally have water with lemon juice in it instead of sodas
The Marketing Dept at the Food Company must have been thrilled when they discovered there was a cheap ingredient that encouraged increased consumption of thier product 😎
Most people dont know they have food-crack in thier pantry 😔
Um, could you then explain why there are sooooooon many fruitarians and starch-based dieters whose fat just fly off?
Shouldn't all fruitarians be obese if this was the case?
So you shouldnt eat fruit?
Why not posting the link for the research when you release the clip?
youtube algorithm / censorship
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@@gatesroyale indeed
Why not you look it up yourself?😅
All this potential biochemistry in animals but nothing looking at
If we only feed fruit to humans, what happens?
This biochemistry is so complicated you can spin it to say what ever you want.
I was just watching a video by Paul Saladino where he insists that there is zero benefit to limiting your fructose intake.
Paul is suffering from confirmation bias. More people need to listen to Bart Kay. He's been on top of this since the word go. Carbs are bad for us.
@charleshill1906, Bart Kay constantly repeats an obvious confirmation bias. Whenever anyone points out that fruit is a part of the ancestral human diet (which he doesn’t deny), he rationalizes that fruit has been “altered” by human intervention, completely ignoring that the beef cattle he eats has been tremendously altered by human intervention and is not like the wild game our ancestors consumed. He also frequently alludes to the idea that since his ethnic background is mainly Northern European, he might not be able to tolerate fruit as well as someone from a more southerly clime. There is zero evidence to support this last assertion.
@@brawndothethirstmutilator9848 No human on Earth is adapted to high levels of fruit consumption. We all lived through the same ice age as a species for 30,000 years where global average temperatures were so low that the tropics didn't exist. That the warmest places on Earth at the time were equivalent to a northwestern fall season. Try and forage for edibles in the fall in the Pacific Northwest and you'll find out just how daunting a task that is. You'd have a better chance tossing a rock and hitting a random squirrel passing by than you would finding something that didn't poison you that you could survive on.
Animals are animals. They aren't so fundamentally changed. Red meat is red meat. The difference in those red meat sources is simply the density of the nutrition contained based on the animal its from. If cows weren't available, then we'd eat elephants, rhino, ostrich, gazelle, zebra, horses, etc. And that's just a short list of land animals we have access to.
A banana from way back when we would have been eating them as a part of our ape ancestry would have been no bigger than your pinky, filled with seeds, have very low sugar content, and very low fruit "meat," as well as may have been quite bitter. A banana today is NOTHING like a banana our ancestors would have had access to. In fact, it's so radically different that animals which are adapted to eating them normally, are now developing metabolic diseases from regular consumption of them. That's how much we've messed with them. They're so different that the fruit we can buy today is entirely different that the fruit we could have bought 100 years ago.
I would say that if your genetics are from anywhere above the equator that fruit should be almost entirely off the menu. Competition wise we would have been the last creatures to have access to even something like berries.
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Fructose as in high fructose corn syrup or tree fruit?
Yes. Table sugar (sucrose) is made up of 50% fructose and 50% glucose. With high fructose corn syrup the fructose is higher with glucose making up the rest. Think the term “high fructose corn syrup” is to tell you the source is corn and not the sugar plant.
Fructose causes insulin resistance.
Fructose is fruits Fruc = Fruit , Tose = Sugar.
The vast majority of studies showing negative impacts of fructose are not conducted with fruit. They are conducted with fructose isolates, removed from the natural food web.