Graven Review. Really good... if you understand it's not like Heretic.
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- čas přidán 25. 02. 2024
- I’m here to set the record straight! Graven is not bad game, it’s also not a good game, it’s an excellent game. And I feel like I have to come to its defense here with a Ye Old Gamer recommends video, because if you give credit to all these negative reviews on Steam and all these CZcams videos that are shitting hard on Graven, you may end up giving it a pass. And that would be a pity, because if you have been following this channel, there’s a good chance that Graven is for you.
Graven is not a first-person shooter like Heretic, it’s not a puzzle game like Myst, it’s not a metroidvania like Symphony of the Night, it doesn’t fully commit do the player-driven approach of Deus Ex, and it’s definitely not a souls-like (like Dark Souls, doh!)
Instead, it borrows mechanics and principles from all these games to deliver a unique experience that is first and foremost about “figuring out” how to progress further into the game and it rewards players for being thorough in their exploration and bold in their experimentation.
Graven is about figuring out how to get rid of the bad guys in the most efficient way. It’s about figuring out how to progress further into the game’s quests and it’s about figuring out how to get around the various locations in which the game takes place.
And if you are part of the game's intended, you are going to have a blast with it. It's one of the best games of 2024 so far! - Hry
I really appreciate you not parroting what others have said and forming your own opinion
I am glad to see a positive review for the game that talks about the spells being actually good as I only read they were bad until I read on a steam forum that you had to upgrade them for them to be good and after that I just decided to try it out and am having a blast. I tend to only play magic casters in games so I went full spell weapons: spellbook, orthogonal hymnal, writ of subjugation, and then for when I am low on mana 1 strong gun until I got the Candelbra which completed my wizard kit and this is working really well. I have upgraded all of them maxed except the ice spell, barely ever have to use the gun because I usually have Equalizing elixirs and enemies drop tons of mana. I also didnt go into this thinking it would be like Hexen which I really enjoyed. Game is just good fun and spells are good just got to spend the gold but I only wanted to use magic weapons so not a waste for me.
The thing is that you cannot play "only spells" in this game This is not a "build-based" game. Spells are CRAZY good but you need to figure out when, where and how to use them to get the best results. For examples, skellies and cultists are extremely weak to fire. Constructs and knights get super slow when you use cold on them, so you can use your frost spell on them and then strike them easily with your flail (which is slow but does superb damage to plate wearing enemies) And lightning is perfect to shock fast zig-zaggie enemies in place so that you can then finish them of with your staff or sword. Magic is not a substitute for weapons most of the times, they are complimentary.
@@YeOldEntertainment Yeah I agree I tend to use the magic themed weapons in tandem with the three spells, I do see the orthogonal hymnal and writ of subjugation as being catalysts that cast a specific spell. I have been playing the whole game this way and its very effective the enemies tend to drop mana pretty often plus some enemies drop Equalizing elixirs as well. I only use the other weapons when I am low on mana which gets less and less often the more I figure out how to use the orthogonal hymnal and writ of subjugation depending on enemy. Remember I do have all the magic weapons maxed save for the ice spell which is lvl 2 atm, this is probably not the intended way to play but it works well and I am enjoying it a ton. I would say the "builds" are pretty much what you decide to upgrade and use. Sorry for the long chat thx for the review didnt expect a reply so soon.
Glad you're looking at the game from a different point of view and are highlighting gameplay mechanics other reviewers missed. I've been on the fence on this game but you convinced me.
I hope you enjoy it!
This looks like a very satisfying game! Thank you for sharing. I'm liking everything I'm hearing. All the good elements I enjoy in a great game. Great review as always, my friend. P.S. that Heretic footage brought good memories. Thank you
I do think this game is up your alley
Where's the library key? 😢
This guy does a complete run of the game with all achievements. czcams.com/video/e_zfSgyNYpw/video.html If its not in this particular video, it's definitely in the one that comes before (check his channel)
This is a certified steam review moment. Lol, there are so many people clueless about thing they watch/play that I stopped reading reviews altogether, except from people I know have similar taste. Like you!
Yes, it's reviews like the ones I mentioned that make you not believe in user reviews at all. I used to trust the lengthier more elaborate ones... but those can be way off too.
I tried it, had a hard time with it. Not what I expected, I expected more of a immersive sim with streamlined gameplay. But it is a interesting game and this video makes me wanna try it out again.
EDIT: The Theme played in this video, like at imnute 15. I recognize it! Where have I heard it? Is it Gravens?
Yes. All the music in that video is from Graven.
@@YeOldEntertainment Thanks! I should pick it up again and give it a go.
I bought it on gog and im really enjoying it, but yeah its not hexen
I was actually surprised at how much I ended up liking it after reading all the negative reviews.
At this day and age if someone's talking about your game at all you can count it as a success.
Until yesterday I would literally look away when this game was mentioned. This game is undersold, it is a shame.
I think you are going to like my man. And for the price... it's a steal of a deal.
I couldnt agree more, just picked this game up and I couldnt understand the hate surrounding it.
5:57 What is this from lol ?
Half-a$$ed Disney film: The Swap.
Keep in mind they've been patching this game like crazy since release.
This game wasn’t even close to my radar. Thank you so much for bringing it to my attention, it feels like I have to give it a try!
Long time no see! You are not going to regret it, my friend. I can almost certainly assure you that you are going to like it!
@@YeOldEntertainment Yeah, I‘ve been in lurking mode for a while! This video forced me out of hiding though! XD
I have a feeling I might fall in love with it, and your perspective is always super helpful!
Graven is criminally underrated.
Yes it is!
Justice for Graven!
I was interested in this game since the first time I saw it. The negative reviews were disheartening. Luckily, I watched a couple that were positive too and this one convinced me to buy it!
That spoiler was instructional. I actually appreciate it!
You will not be disappointed my man. I'm sure of it in fact.