My Report: I Can't Believe The Amount of Hate GRAVEN Gets
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- čas přidán 10. 07. 2024
- GRAVEN 1.0 spoiler free review, and explanation of the game. What to expect, my opinions it and more! I do mention a lot of Diablo in this video, just to be clear I'm mostly aiming that towards the feel and atmosphere of the overall game. Not it's mechanics and how it's played :)
Action, mystery, and a chance for redemption await you in the gritty action first person puzzler GRAVEN. Explore a dark fantasy world as a wrongly convicted man of faith. Battle the horrors of humanity, the wilds, and beyond using the environment, magic, and armaments.
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00:00 Intro
01:23 THE GRAVE
04:52 THE CELLAR
07:48 SO MUCH SNOW
09:29 THE BARRELS
10:14 DIABLO
13:22 NO MARKER
15:30 IT'S STILL GREAT - Hry
Thank you for watching! Hope you enjoy the video, a bit longer than my regular reviews, but there is a lot to talk about and a lot of Zlim that wants to charm you to forever be subbed to the channel
Know this going in to the review though.
This game will not hold your hand, it wont show you the ropes. It expects you to experiment, read and solve. The magic of the game is Discoverability and the sense of reward, meaning take your time, don't feel rushed and soak it in, slowly.
Hey zlim. Just wanted to say that your video's are very nice. I love this genre of games and i have been looking for a long time for a channel dedicated to it!
Thank you so much! Very happy to hear that! :)
Zlim saying "graven," is like the new "PURGING PURGE PURGE," in the Bratski fandom
haha GRAVEN!!!
this reminds me so much of hexen, wrath aeon of ruin was amazing too, looking forward to this one. if you like these hub style worlds with quests and puzzles, i can recommend hedon as well (crystal heart & bloodrite)
Oh yeah it def reminds a lot of Hexen, but to me the Diablo feeling was just out of this world. I couldn't shake the feeling :D
I played some Hedon, I love it :D
After Wizordum was constantly called a "Heretic" style game, it's nice to see a game that more truly embodies the vibe of Hex/Heretic
Shout out to Hedon Bloodrite, more people need to try that game. Its amazing.
Great review! I bought this in early access like two years ago and finally got to play 1.0 today for a bit after work. Only 20-30 minutes in and am sick of breaking barrels! 😂. But I know this will be a long, fun ride so it’s worth it!
Thanks man! Ah man the barrels!!!!! I've come to realize that it is worth using your fire spell on them, even though you drain some mana, you keep your sanity haha
I remember when graven was revealed, it became one of my most anticipated games and has remained so. I personally really liked the ea even though I know many didn't.
Same, seems like in the minority, but I had a danm good time with this game
I like game areas with shortcuts that you can open as you progress. Neat crossbow too ps and the graphics are way gooder rhan i thought
Considering the Blood West right now Thommy, I think this is either the perfect game to jump into right after or the worst thing imaginable. Both the games require a lot from you but this one even more so but not combat wise instead exploring and thinking wise :D
@@ZlimBratSki there's almost a kind of puzzle vibe im noticing. There are wide open areas and little outposts with enemies patrolling. Then you have to decide to either fight, stealth attack or avoid fighting entirely and use only sneak. I used a combination of the three approaches in a barn type structure earlier. Saw a bunch of enemies in the front yard, so I pulled back and circled around. Turned out there was a narrow staircase in the back, so I snuck up there and got some great items (some very cool potion effects) then I waited for an enemy to come close and lured them into the barn where I was waiting with the revolver loaded with cursed gold rounds :D
“GRAAAVEN”. Sounds badass.
I know!! More video game things like that in video games please! 😄
Huge shoutout for your content, creativity and your presentation of Graven (*Graaaaaaven.*)
I think I'd love this game :D
Thanks man! I appreciate that!
Retitled? Very ambitious project indeed. Starts out like Heretic 1 / 2 but then evolves into something else. Too bad the Devs did not listen to a word we players said about the saving system and the game is already rated as "mixed" on Steam. I had so much hope for this game, let's see if it delivers.
Yeah, people didn't really understand I meant the atmosphere and feel of the game with the Diablo reference. So I added it in the description as well. Been getting numerous messages of people stating it does not play like diablo lol
This game looks beautiful! I see what you're saying about the diablo vibes. It's missing pack density and faster cast rate though. 😅
Oh yeah def! Gameplay wise it doesn't feel much like Diablo, but at mere glance and just sucking in the atmosphere I couldn't help but get the Diablo vibes :D
Very good review, great quality video overall. Definitly a game for my wishlist.
Thanks man! ❤️🤘
That one looks fun... thanks again Zlim.
Thanks for your comment and checking the vid out 🤜🤛
This game feels like a fantasy boomer shooter role playing immersive sim to me after looking gameplays
Yupp, a pretty good way of putting it :)
Looking forward to go exploring!
Don't forget to grab your Indiana Jones Boots! :D
Glad you liked it Zlim. I remember trying the EA release a few months back and honestly wasn't very impressed. Combat was dull and AI dumb. The weapons didn't feel right and the levels were open and boring. And the godamn barrels man. Really breaks the pace
It's a lot more polished then the EA version, but I totally understand how the can wont appeal everyone :) the open world, general pace and so on is still the same, so if those things were not for you I'd say skip this one :)
Been following this one since the demo. Been waiting so long! Looks awesome, hope it's better than other Slipgate Ironworks releases of late!
It's def not without it's fair share of jank, it's there but it's nothing that ruins the experience imo. Best thing 3DR released since it re formed in denmark
@ZlimBratSki I can handle a bit of the jank. 😉 Worse is a game-breaking bug or some softlock that leaves you standing there like an ass and not being able to progress in a game. 😂
@@MasterSoto There were softlocks in certain review copies mine included, but as late as yesterday I again got confirmation that it has been re solved. Thats why I never mention them in the review, because it's not reflecting the experience you will have :)
Not able to watch the full video atm, but quick question, what are the important improvements from early access? Been excited for this one but I heard mixed reviews from the early access version.
The most important of them all is less bugs, other than that the map is gone, some puzzles a little easier, a little more hints :)
The multiplayer was not working on Graven and i wrote slipgate ironworks, and this morning y e a h ! It works ;) fantastic
Awesome! :) You can see some coop footage in my review so it was working for me, but I read there was some issues I could have been lucky :)
I got this on release and, I have to be blunt and honest, the first Early Access version was kinda crap. It is likely one of the reasons the reviews on Steam are mixed. A very Slipgate Ironworks moment where their first showing to the public was not particularly fantastic *coughKingpinPhantomFurycough*. From everything I've seen (and from reviewers like you) it looks like they have really polished this up. Can't wait to give it a shot!
Yeah I totally agree on this, no denying that at all. But what they managed to craft in the end is a great experience, could use a bit more polish but nothing broke the experience the way it did in EA :)
Are you going to cover Get To The Orange Door and Splitgate? My inner perfectionist cries a little when seeing you review basically every modern indie shooter except for these two 😅
Get to the orange door is on my list, at this point I'm just waiting for the 1.0 release. Splitgate might get a live community night but not a review :)
Zlim does the game have difficulty settings? I'm the type of gamer that likes to usually pick the hardest difficulty otherwise I don't feel challenged.
It does, I explain it in the video. the difficulty does not change health or damage numbers but the amount of enemies on the map and the death penalty :)
I got this game in a humble bundle awhile ago,
When was still in early access
Sweet!! Will you jump in to the 1.0?
@@ZlimBratSki well I mean sure, I haven't try it yet, I will get to it some day maybe. Just i have too many games to play 😅
@@Holy_Light65 no rush, jump into this one when you have time, it will require your full attention 😁
Really looking forward to getting this one... bugs and kinks notwithstanding.
I honestly think you will enjoy this one, just remember this: This game will not hold your hand, it wont show you the ropes. It expects you to experiment, read and solve. The magic of the game is discoverability and the sense of reward, meaning take your time, don't feel rushed and soak it in, slowly.
Understand this and you will see the magic of the game, it was not clear as day to me in an instant. But I did get to me, and it got me good!
@@ZlimBratSki
That kind of game is absolutely my jam, thank you for your expert eye as always!
Hello, for you its a good game? I loved Hexen 2 and Heretic 1 and 2
Hey! Yes if you love Hexen this will be right up your alley! :)
I remember playing an alpha/beta of this years ago and quite liked it, was holding on for the full release but seeing that it has multiplayer made me want it right now XD
Have they said if this will get a Big Box edition? or did I miss it already? still waiting for the Wrath one...
Awesome to hear that! The 1.0 is def an even better experience then the EA :)
Hmm no I haven't heard anything of a big box for this one unfortunately
@@ZlimBratSki Thank for the quick reply! also I'd like to add that I do see it having the same atmosphere as Diablo since I read some of the other comments misinterpreted it.
@@KaoshiSan Glad to hear that! 😁
The only criticism i share is that the game is overbarreled 😁No, seriously, they should have put one or two more waysigns up and put more resources into barrels and then reducing their amount per level. In the EA it felt very tedious to break them all. And i had to, because why should i skip resources? Other than that everything i saw looked good. Great even. Some of the levels even have a cautiously cozy look. i can imagine sitting in that library for some hours.
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Now i can see why you said you want to take more time for the videos, that was a good idea for sure. Quality went up, together with the charm and editing work.
There is no skipping resources in my brain, I constantly walk over ammo I'm full on and as soon as I see a barrel my barbarian brain goes "SMASH" :D
Oh man it's so cosy, that's what I mean with calm stress free moments to actually just read, it's done thanks to it's incredible atmosphere and environments :)
Thanks man I appreciate that, I'm being extremely self critical towards the video right now, but thanks man
in GRAVEN, in GRAVEN, in GRAVEN
it sound in style like FATALITY from MK
GRAVEN Fatality, I like it!
Such a gorgeous game! Thanks for the fantastic video 😍😍
My pleasure! Glad you enjoyed it 😁
Loved the aesthetics and dark fantasy aspects, but the gameplay didn’t live up to the hype I heard
Huh. I don't remember it having stats, randomised loot or procedurally generated locations, AKA the key features that make Diablo out of Diablo?
I mean the atmosphere, I tried making it clear in the video, but perhaps its not clear enough :)
Digging the visual style and diablo-like music! I think I'll grab this on a sale when it's fixed up :)
Sweet! Check my latest youtube community post for fixing up :)
I love these imm sim/boomer shooter hybrids. Also........Graven.
Haha nice, graven is deserving of loved imo
Just bought it before 1.0, most of the fuzz is about the lack of map and its weird inventory system. Not a big deal if the level design and the shooting mechanics are good.
Oh a word of warning, with the 1.0 update your save files run the risk of getting corrupt, so don't play to much until the 1.0 update tomorrow! Also totally agree, the inventory has it's function of being a risk/reward system and it works. It's not a hassle by any means, and the map is not needed as each area is so distinct from another you do recognize where you are and the name of the location pops up every time you enter it :)
@@ZlimBratSki Good to know, i just don't touch it until tomorrow then.
Something I love about your reviews man is your positivity and enthusiasm - you really help to stir up excitement for a game so that's really cool!
Your video seems incomplete though ...? It ends really abruptly at 16:17 - was that intentional? It doesn't seem like it was.
About the game, though, it looks amazing and fills me with wonder and wanting to explore - and I love that in a game
No map, and instead you have to learn the level, use the journal and play detective ... - that sounds awesome! But certainly means the level design and the journal entries have to be really well designed - sounds like they almost are - I suspect I'll still have to use walkthroughs
The AI does look kind of bad though right? - like they've all got zombie AI or something
The stamina bar, weapon swapping, spells against enemies and weapon bar are all a shame - I hope they get patched or modded
The physics seem kind of strange eh? Like you're in low gravity or something - not sure if that's a plus or a minus though, maybe it's fun :D
The barrel issue sounds funny haha! I usually have to completely pillage every area to go into when I'm playing a game so too many barrels could annoy me also!
Thanks man! If I like something and I genuinely had a good time I want that to show, so I'm glad it is! 😁 The video ends abruptly as an experiment, to test the retention, the 10 seconds of showing other videos hurts that a lot :/
This game really trusts you the player to figure things out, I mean everything, at times the amount of guidance is just enough and perfect, other times it lacks, and you do get exhausted after a while. But the sense of reward and discoverability is absolutely insane. At first I doubted i'd even get through the game seeing as there are no guides when I played, but hekk I made it!
The A.I is at times very stupid, yupp. But it works, it will offer a challenge.
The physics are not bad apart from smashing the barrels 😂
@@ZlimBratSki cool! I'm looking forward to trying it out
There's no map and I have no idea where to go. The weapons are redundant and kind of lame. And the barrels. So many barrels.
Read the journal and do some exploring and I'm sure you will figure it out, if I can I'm positive anyone can. But I agree at times the game needs better guidance, its exhausting playing for long sessions.
Each weapon serves a purpose, experiment, don't be afraid and you will start putting them to good use. (Think video game logic)
GRAAAAAVEN!!
GRAVEN!!! :D
I'm about to start Rantin' and (g)RAVEN'!
GRAVEN! 😂😁🤘
8 hours in now.. gosh! amazing gaem!
Someone get's the game! And let me tell ya it just get's better and better! :D
For me this is like the spiritual successor of HEXEN
What do you think?
I never played the first HeXen (maybe tried on N64, but I am not sure), but I had a ton of fun on HeXen II on PC, a hell of a game...
Def a lot of Hexen DNA in the game! But I just couldn't shake the insane strong Diablo vibes the game gave off :D
Nice to hear a positive take! Game has been garnering a lot of criticisim....
I lay down some criticism at the end of the video but overall, the game is not deserving of the amount its received imo. Not the best game out there but far, far from the worst.
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You saying this is like Diablo makes me think of looter shooters, which is a turn off. Mechanic-wise is it more like Diablo or more like Hexen?
Oh no no no! Not a looter shooter by any means at all! much more like Hexen, I'm aware it's a bit unclear, my apologies. The atmosphere, music and ambience is a lot like diablo, gameplay wise not so much
he meant diablo in terms of atmosphere the gameplay is more similar to hexen
@@ZlimBratSki Great! I'm really looking forward for this game coming out this week, its like Hexen made in the Unreal 1 engine. BTW, is this the final build or will it remain in Early Access?
@@ghost085 this is the final build :) roughly 15-20h long depending on amount of exploration and puzzle skills
@@ZlimBratSki Thanks for always answering our comments 👍
Why are they hating on this game ?
I think a lot of people fail to see what type of a game it is, and that makes them not like it because it's not what they expect :/
This is the most anticipated game of 2024, because you know, 2024 looks dull in terms of games. I hope its better than blood west the swamps in that game put me off, they should have been less empty like how this game does them. i would compare it to hexen 2 not diablo, there is a doom mod that is basically diablo from first person view.
The environments and overall level design is a whole different story in this game, but instead of empty, too much barrels lol.
The game is fantastic, not without it's jank here and there but nothing that breaks the experience. Read my pinned comment, I feel like many people missunderstands the game and the comment/review helps.
The Diablo reference is mostly due to the atmosphere, I mean the act 2 music is more or less straight influenced by Diablo. In terms of gameplay it's hexen, but I didn't mention that as either you don't know what it is, or you do know and that this game takes a lot from it.
@@ZlimBratSki yeah, it reminds me of shadow warrior and BioShock infinite that i had to pick up every single dime i found just to have as much money as possible for upgrading.
Paid review, the game is absolute mess 3/10 at max.
Lol not paid and no
Furry opinion detected, opinion dejected.
@@ZeroHxC07 *rejected
@@TravisTheRudyFox thanks dog man
for a modern game, it actually looks terribly pixelated without being intentionally so. even your attempts at salesmanship do little to cover this. no wonder you always use such short clips.
It's very much intentional to look that way lol.. I didn't try to hide it for a second, it looks gorgeous with its retro styled pixelated graphics. The short clips are for other reasons.
You can’t seriously think that lol. It looks good and it’s definitely intentional.
Are you feeling okay? Short clips? There's no minimum or maximum requirement.
Can't wait for full release.
I wonder what happened to a game I really want called: Wrath: Aeon of Ruin.
Do you, by any chance, have any news on this game?
Full release comes out at the end of next month bro
Oh yeah it drops in 1.0 on feb 27 I will talk more about it in my next video dropping :D
ooolala! :D