MCU Timeline Breakdown - The Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special
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- čas přidán 2. 12. 2022
- In this video we break down all the timeline information available to us about the recent Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special, as well as any and all timeline related information we could find from James Gunn's twitter, and how it all connects back to Thor: Love and Thunder. We also dive into Eternals, Far From Home, and Werewolf By Night briefly.
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The fact that he goes back to replace movies that he thinks he's got wrong shows he truly dedicated to this and not afraid to day that he's wrong.
👏 it really shows his commitment
I’m happy you feel that way! I’m human! I’ve been wrong before, I’ll be wrong again! It makes more sense to address the mistakes and move on than to stick by them.
I’m a huge fan of the work you do. I can tell you spend a lot of time with it. Can’t wait to see what you’re working on and am hoping it’s a timeline for the Fox-men mutants/Deadpool. In the meantime I’m going to copy this video and tweet it to James Gunn. Obviously I don’t want you going to the DC side but if you did it would greatly enhance the universe. Well done sir!
Thank you so much bro, that’s very kind of you!
I've been planning an MCU rewatch and I'm so glad I found your channel. Your breakdowns and timelines make significantly more sense than the Disney+ timeline. Also, your willingness to rearrange title orders as we are introduced to new information shows a lot of integrity, which is even more important in my opinion. Thank you so much and I'm excited to see what you have planned!
I’m glad others agree that not being super rigid, and willing to accept new information as it comes along, is very important. Glad you found my channel.
Another great breakdown Dakota!
Thanks Vactor!
I love these timeline breakdowns. You do them so well. Can’t wait for more from you. I personally think you should be the head of the timeline in the MCU tbh😁
I’m glad you like the videos!
Been waiting for this one. Especially in relation to where you placed werewolf by night.
Glad to get it out finally!
These special presentations are gonna be huge for the MCU! Absolutely loved the holiday special. Congrats on the 35k you definitely deserve it and cannot wait for the Eternals vid and these 2 huge projects!
Thanks man! And yes, they’re simple bite-sized shorts that are a LOT of fun.
I love these videos! You do such a great job putting the timeline together! Keep up the good work!
Thanks Jonathan! Glad you like the videos!
Love these videos man! Incredible! 🙏🏽
Thank you, Magee!
I made it to the video on the James Gunn tweet, sweet haha! keep up the good work, hopefully one day Marvel will hire you to keep track of the timeline!
You made it haha, thanks for sharing it with me.
It shouldn't be surprising, but you did it again. This is wonderful and succinct. Thank you.
You are providing a wonderful service to all the fans of comic book movies, whether MCU (which you are the king/guru/master), but also for the upcoming DCU slate of movies. We are fans of the genre, not just particular properties. Thank you for being SO professional.
Again, thank you. Will be sharing this where we can. Always supporting what you do.
Graff, you’re awesome. Thanks for your support. Glad you find value in my content. I will always appreciate that.
@@Geekritique - Marie and I are REALLY hoping that you get a gig with one of the BIG franchises.
Your work on CZcams has been great, but we'd love to see it translate to some financial success, too.
Putting your talents in play...for a major franchise would be amazing.
We could then say...we knew him when...
💖💖 i loved it ☺️ Eternals and two Marvel Special Presentations .
Guardians of the Galaxy will age like a fine wine. Can't beleive we will loose some characters but its life 🧬 🥺
Totally agree, it’s gonna be heartbreaking.
You are awesome at the timeline, I've watched your videos and I have created a Marvel List In Chronological Order based upon what you say and I am constantly updating it.
Thank you Beth, I’m really happy to hear that!
Awesome video as always brother! After watching the special I also thought it takes place in December 2025 so it's great you also said that's the case and what you said about the importance of timeline management is 100% spot on 💯 keep doing your thing man and I hope James Gunn sees this and takes you on 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Great minds think alike! Dec 2025 seems like the best fit. And thanks for the nice comment.
Another great timeline breakdown! I love that the 2 special presentations are just canonically a few days apart lol. Also can't wait for future breakdowns like the X-Men movies in the MCU timeline or maybe even the Arrowverse👀
It’s kinda cool honestly, having them so close together, and yet so stylistically separate.
Consistently good videos
Thank you man!
Whatever you do.. it will be epic! The dedication required to do these videos is massive.. you really should be the Marvel timeline keeper.. i hope you add all the previous marvel movies (even though they may not be official mcu cannon multiverse kind of thing) and please please stay with marvel, please.
My marvel videos aren’t going anywhere, don’t worry.
I love how accurate you are with your timeline placements
Thanks, I try!
@@Geekritique your welcome you do a very great job at
YOU ARE AWESOME TIME KEEPER🔥
Thanks Shellhead!
Dakota is to be admired for her dedication to correctly analyzing the positioning, your channel is the only one that makes videos exclusively dedicated to this format, I've seen several channels make videos like yours, but really, I was very careful when analyzing it, I had to access your channel because not even in my country did the channels talk about the movies with surgical precision, you have my respect.
I’m glad my dedication isn’t lost on the viewers. What country are you from?
@@Geekritique I'm from Brazil
Greetings from the US!
@@Geekritique Greetings from the Brazil!
I love how you couldn't contain your chuckle after saying 'swole Groot'
😂 it’s so fun to say.
CANNOT WAIT FOR YOUR BREAKDOWN FOR EVERYTHING PHASE 4 TIMELINE WITH WAKANDA FOREVER.
Me neither!
Another excellent work my guy. What's the background music your using?
This is all music from Epidemic Sound.
@@Geekritique what's the name of the song used in the beginning.
The songs, in the order they were used:
bomull: bettnes
Phello: Overcast
Christopher Moe Ditlevsen: Rise to Power
bomull: bichon
Why don't they just hire you as a Timeline Keeper man? But it's okay, You are doing that for us. Thanks Dakota!!
I dunno, nobody has ever reached out. 🤷🏻♂️
Geekcrtitique i have evidence that could show Werewolf: By Night occur between 30 of November-1 of December of 2025
I investigate and the last Moon of 2025 is in 05/12/2025 and when Jack is talking with Elsa says "the next full moon is in 5 days" so the story take place in 30 of November, because when we substract give us that date and the story ends in 1 of December, so Disney+ Timeline is right regrettably
But Ulysses died on the last full moon of the year. Meaning it has to be after December 5th.
@@Geekritique ok thanks!
Okay, DC Fans: You now have your charge - petition James Gunn to have Dakota as the DCU Timeline Manager! :)
Thanks Don! We shall see haha.
I will also say Groot’s drastic growth is probably the equivalent of a grown spurt or a Pokémon evolution in his species if that’s the explanation they want to go with.
That's a possibility.
Hi, I'm a big fan of your work. I have a question.
Can you do a same video like this but with phase 5?
Do you have to watch phase 5 or can you do it just jet?
Because I also want the best phase 5 time-line in MCU. Does it work?
Hi Moon Knight. I’d love to make a timeline for Phase 5, but I haven’t seen it yet. I’ll be updating our timeline with new videos for each Phase 5 title.
Well said re: Marvel’s lack of timeline care. Great work as always 👍🏼
Thanks for watching!
Haven't watched this one yet but I already know it's going to be peak content
Let me know what you think!
@@Geekritique As expected, peak content as usual! I'm guessing the two videos coming up next will be star wars related and perhaps a proper dc(e)u timeline 🤔🤔
Good guesses! Can’t say if you’re correct, but good guesses.
@@Geekritique That's good enough for me!
Can you start Next Year off with Building the DC Extended Universe Timeline, with all the Movies that are coming out and came out this year, like Black Adam, Shazam Fury of the Gods, The Flash, Blue Beetle and Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom!!!
That would be really fun!
Great video as always. Nicely done!
A few thoughts for consideration:
- I thought this line of dialogue between Bacon and Kraglin was interesting: “Hey, that man was a plant…oh, Groot? He’s just a kid”. So the Guardians still consider Groot a kid. That's why I have theorized that after Thor: L&T Groot hit whatever a living tree's version of puberty is like and had a fast and massive growth spurt in a short span of time.
- I honestly don't trust a thing Gunn says in his tweets anymore. Beyond the insane situation he mentions about the timeline who doesn't discuss timeline's (!!!) Gunn then said "in my mind [the Guardians] were only with Thor a few weeks". Ugh. That would mean that since they all left together right after Endgame, Gunn thinks they split up in December of 2023? Sigh. I love Gunn, but he just shoots from the hip all the time.
Anyway, based on those two points, I believe Groot could grow that big a short period of time, meaning L&T and the Guardians Holiday special don't have to be so far apart. Just my take on it though.
Again, great work!
Thanks for the comment.
As for Kraglin’s comment, I consider young adulthood to be late teens, early twenties, so the kid line makes sense as he’s still pretty much a kid.
The few weeks quote seems to me just a rudimentary understanding of the necessary amount of time required to elapse in titles other than his. That, and a lack of internal communication about where their projects fall timeline-wise, lead to most directors nowadays having little to no idea where their project lies. Same with Taika.
@@Geekritique Yeah, the timeline keeper is not doing his/her job, that's for sure. Ugh!
4:34 I was disappointed to see the Collector die in Endgame, but I guess I was wrong.
Yeah, that was probably the biggest surprise for me.
Yeah! That was a huge surprise.
I like the character and I like the actor. He had some sprinkles of cameo and expository appearances that I thought were leading up to a boss fight. Since he's not dead, I can anticipate that.
I think the projects you are working on are timelines. Either Star Wars, DCU, or Fox X-men
Simple solution for Marvel: Hire Dakota and don't worry about timeline. 😄
😂 😂
@@Geekritique 😎😎😎
Could u possibly be working on a DCU Chronological Timeline (v2.0) 👀
🤷🏻♂️
I just went to see quantumania a second time to find the timeline. I think the main events of the movie take place in spring to summer 2025 because in black Panther 2 the news says Scott is on a tour with his book, which is happening at the beginning of this movie. Black Panther 2 is in spring 2025, so ant man 3 has to be right after in spring or summer 2025. The flashbacks are probably about a decade before any man and the wasp because of the dialogue, but time is different in the quantum realm so I don’t know. The first post credit scene is probably at the void, because they are looking at the timeline. The second is in 1910s-1920s. The clothing is similar too these times. In summary this is what I think
Main Events: Spring/Summer 2025
Flashbacks: Unknown; maybe early 2000s
First Post-Credit-Scene: The Void
Second Post-Credit-Scene: 1910s-1920s
Marvel Cinematic Universe
1942-1945: Captain America The First Avenger
1946: Agent Carter, Agent Carter Season 1,
1947: Agent Carter Season 2
1995: Captain Marvel
2010: Iron Man
2011: Iron Man 2, The Incredible Hulk, A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to Thor's Hammer, Thor, The Consultant
2012: The Avengers, Item 47, Iron Man 3
2013: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Season 1, Thor The Dark World, All Hail the King
2014: Captain America The Winter Soldier, Guardians of the Galaxy, Groot's First Steps, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2, The Little Guy, Groot's Pursuit, Groot Takes a Bath, Magnum Opus, Daredevil Season 1, Jessica Jones Season 1
2015: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Season 2, Avengers Age of Ultron, Ant-Man, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Season 3, Daredevil Season 2, Luke Cage Season 1
2016: Iron Fist Season 1, The Defenders Season 1, Captain America Civil War, Black Widow, Black Panther, Spider-Man Homecoming, The Punisher Season 1, Doctor Strange
2017: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Season 4, Cloak & Dagger Season 1, Inhumans Season 1, Jessica Jones Season 2, Luke Cage Season 2, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Season 5, Thor Ragnarok, Iron Fist Season 2, Cloak & Dagger Season 2, Daredevil Season 3, Runaways Season 1
2018: Runaways Season 2, Runaways Season 3, The Punisher Season 2, Jessica Jones Season 3, Ant-Man and the Wasp, Avengers Infinity War
2019: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Season 6
2020: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Season 7
2023: Avengers Endgame, Loki Season 1, Loki Season 2, What If...? Season 1, Marvel Zombies Season 1, What If...? Season 2, Spider-Man Freshman Year Season 1, WandaVision Season 1, Eternals
2024: Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings, The Falcon and the Winter Soldier Season 1, Thor Love and Thunder, Moon Knight Season 1, Spider-Man Far From Home, Spider-Man No Way Home, Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, Hawkeye Season 1
2025: Black Panther Wakanda Forever, Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania, She-Hulk Attorney At Law Season 1, Ms. Marvel Season 1, The Marvels, Secret Invasion Season 1, The Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special, Werewolf By Night
2026: Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3
You should see if you can do a database search of the LA police records to see when the GoBot actor filed assault charges to help you with your placement.
Seriously, you should start referring to yourself as a forensic chronologist because it is amazing how you can place these movies on the timeline with the tiniest scraps of evidence. Sherlock Holmes would be impressed! Great video, looking forward to your next video.
Forensic chronologist hahaha I love it. Thanks Dan, definitely gonna use that going forward 😂
Although I doubt this was the intention behind the Disney+ placement, I think it's worth noting that the HS being put after WBN _necessitates_ that a year passes between the two. That's because WBN is five days from the next full moon, but if it takes place on or before Christmas, then the next full moon will occur before the year is out. That means that either Ulysses' death was _not_ on the last full moon of the year, or that his funeral is being held months (plural) after his death (and not within the same lunar cycle like we've supposed). If it's the same lunar cycle, WBN has to take place, at the earliest, on Dec 27th of its year, and the HS the following Christmas.
Well, while it’s possible this occurs in 2026, the easier explanation is the Disney+ placement is incorrect.
@@Geekritique For sure! My stance is that the Disney+ timeline now has to be proven right instead of proven wrong 😂 I was just saying that even _their_ order supports a year+ having passed between Thour and the HS, whether they intended that or not and regardless of the years in which they consider these projects to be happening.
Hey @Geekritique when your timeline video be uploaded?
Which timeline video?
@@Geekritique MCU timeline update
Sometime next year.
Just me waiting for the next episode of Marvelous.
I know!! Sorry, we’ll get on that soon.
I don't think Kingo is back on Earth. The entire post-credits scene of Eternals is setting up Eros helping Thena, Makkari and Druig find their kidnapped friends. There's no way they will completely drop that tease and have all the Eternals back on Earth by the next time we see them. These are probably movies that Kingo had filmed before his disappearance.
That’s certainly a possibility. Of course, Eternals 2 may occur in 2024 🤷🏻♂️
Was a Quantumania breakdown blocked or there wasn't one in the first place?
czcams.com/users/shortsskxL0Xw7clg?feature=share
Here’s a vid I made on it. I want to do another now that it’s on D+
@@Geekritique Ah, thanks! Didn't think of looking for one in the shorts.
Still talking about chronology errors, the Fandom Wiki chooses to follow the year 2009 as the year of Iron Man, 2010 as the year of Fury's Big Week, April and May 2025 for Moon Knight, being that before the series was officially inserted, they had put the death dates of some characters in the middle of 2024. In the same way as their positioning, not to mention that not only that but many sites mention the Civil War between May and June 2016.
The wiki does the best they can. I simply interpret the timeline a bit differently.
This special & the Guardians 3 trailer make their costumes in Love & Thunder confusing. Like, why did Mantis have that headpiece for only 1 film, and then ditch it right after?
Must be something that Taika wanted for her look, that Gunn didnt
I mean its like how Taika gave Strange his comic accurate gloves, but other directors ditched them.
@@eagc7 I guess so, yeah.
just wondering, will the x men and deadpool movies get added to the timeline once deadpool 3 releases?
No clue.
@@Geekritique got any rough guess?
I don’t know which universe, if any, it’ll directly cross over with. It’s hard to say. Whichever universe does cross over to it will be added, along with any attached films.
So is it before werewolf by night or after
Before
Before, yeah.
Hopefully it's a X-Men placement in the MCU that you're working on
Could be 🤷🏻♂️ can’t say just yet
@@Geekritique I've kinda made two ways X-Men could work in the MCU Timeline and one of them is kinda interesting
And not gonna lie finding your channel is a blessing and got me into the timeline even more
Groot ages 4x faster than a normal human, Groot seems about a year old on GotG2, but he seems 16 on Avenger INFINITY WAR, with that logic Groot would be 24 on GotG3. Thoughts?
It’s not a 1 to 1 human comparison. He ages on a curve, kind of like a dog. They grow really fast when they’re young, but slow down once they become an adult.
2:12 Gunn's "They weren't with Thor for more than a few weeks" tweet is _also_ pretty huge towards saying your Love & Thunder placement was right.
7:15 My take on this question is very simple: Marvel does not directly control the D+ interface.
As for your second point, I go back and forth on it. I just doubt Marvel would allow a false timeline to persist in such an official capacity without stepping in.
I don't necessarily think the inaccuracies of the Disney+ timeline actually reflect Marvel's timeline management. I actually don't think either are related... The Disney+ timeline is likely not managed by Marvel in any way, and is more than likely the product of a team that works on the Disney+ app that has no contact with anyone at Marvel Studios. Hence why they kind'a just drop new releases in the timeline by the order they come out as opposed to chronologically.
That’s not always the case though. Occasionally they just drop a title latest on the timeline, like they did with Love and Thunder or Moon Knight, but they didn’t do that with Multiverse of Madness or She-Hulk, and in those instances I agree with their decisions.
I'm not sure if this will be seen, but if you are a youtuber, how did you get people to view your videos?
Make something people want to watch, spend time getting better at editing videos and thumbnails, and consistently posting. That’s the only way for success, barring some video being picked up by the algorithm.
@@Geekritique okay, thanks man, I'll look back at this alot!
Please include the Spider verse movies!!!!!!
#hiregeektriqueforDC
Star Wars Timeline
Maybe you are getting into new franchises? Who knows 🤔
Perhaps 🤔
To me it's 2024 but we'll see after GOTG Vol. 3.
What’s your mindset behind it?
@@Geekritique Endgame - October 2023
Love and Thunder - summer 2024
Special - December 2024
Vol. 3 - summer 2025
It fits to Gunn's comments about Thor being with guardians for few weeks and that volume 3 takes place not longer than 2 years after endgame. I don't remember exact words atm. Plus Groot is growing pretty fast, it's ok to me that he got muscles in about 6 months between LaT and the special.
Issue with that is Groot is the same shape and size in Guardians 3.
@@Geekritique I completely forgot about that. So special takes place after gotg 3? I guess we'll have to wait for the movie 🙂
No, the special comes first.
You forgot one thing from ur mcu timeline sir if u reply il say it
What did I forget?
@@Geekritique peters to do list
I consider it a glorified deleted scene, and less of a One-Shot, so I chose not to include it. Thanks for keeping me up to speed though.
@@Geekritique but it isn’t a deleted scene so at lest u can mention it
Theres no way james said 2022 😭😭😭😭
Oh, he definitely did 😂