EVERYTHING That Happens Between Avatars 1 & 2 - Timeline & Recap

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  • čas přidán 15. 05. 2024
  • In this video we dive deep into the Avatar Timeline and look at everything that happens between Avatar 1 and Avatar: The Way of Water. We also update the Avatar: World of Pandora Timeline.
    Patreon members get access to a large image of our complete timeline! Become a member now! www.patreon.com/posts/7614962...
    Avatar: The Next Shadow - amzn.to/3HQzd5Q
    Avatar: The High Ground, Vol 1 - amzn.to/3hLaqW2
    Avatar: The High Ground, Vol 2 - amzn.to/3W9qzDZ
    Avatar: The High Ground, Vol 3 - amzn.to/3JjApzs
    0:00 Introduction
    1:06 Before the events of Avatar
    2:46 The Next Shadow
    4:13 7 years of peace
    5:54 The RDA returns to Earth
    7:05 7 years of preparation
    8:23 The High Ground
    11:08 A year of War
    12:36 Updates to the Avatar: World of Pandora Timeline
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Komentáře • 126

  • @bexisdying229
    @bexisdying229 Před rokem +118

    My theory about kiri is that she doesn't actually have a father at all, and that she is somehow born of grace and eywa. grace was mean to pass through eywa and return as jake did but was too weak from injury. However graces avatar body is still alive and I think that somehow that had some kind of effect where grace's avatar became pregnant from it, maybe from almost returning back into her avatar body, or even eywa returning grace in a way. And I think this is why kiri has such a strong connection to eywa. I dunno if that's stupid or not but it would explain why no father is known and kiri's connection o eywa.

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem +29

      Not stupid at all. This is the predominant theory as far I’m aware of, so I think you’re on the right track.

    • @noctua_caelum
      @noctua_caelum Před rokem +6

      This makes a lot of sense, and seems to be suggested by Sigourney Weaver being cast as her. A woman in her 70s playing the voice of a teenage girl doesn’t really make a lot of sense unless it’s literally the same person reincarnated.

    • @mayfielcl
      @mayfielcl Před rokem +4

      Kirk is born of Grace’s avatar (that is dormant because it doesn’t have a spirit anymore) not grace herself so yeah

    • @sandscrapper8320
      @sandscrapper8320 Před rokem +1

      You can also read it in the songcord translation

    • @jorgej.cruzhernandez9247
      @jorgej.cruzhernandez9247 Před rokem +3

      Mo'at asked Eywa to save everything Grace was in her avatar body. Grace made tsaheilu with Eywa herself, in her human body! Eywa experienced a human mind for the first time, Grace's loving and empathetic mind for Pandora and the Na'vi!
      Kiri is like Eywa's manifestation of Grace's love and empathy. She doesn't even have to make tsaheilu beforehand to connect with and befriend animals... She's a Na'vi-Human hybrid with empathy on Eywa's steroids

  • @Water_Me_Loan_64_YT
    @Water_Me_Loan_64_YT Před rokem +125

    Still better continuity than ‘8 YEARS LATER’ in Spider-Man: Homecoming…

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem +18

      MUCH BETTER continuity haha

    • @Person-wz6iy
      @Person-wz6iy Před 11 měsíci +2

      If that Flashback takes place in 2012 and the main movie in 2016, then how does that work?!

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před 11 měsíci +3

      It doesn’t. Need to ignore it.

    • @Person-wz6iy
      @Person-wz6iy Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@Geekritique Ok thanks.

  • @anastasialiulina8819
    @anastasialiulina8819 Před rokem +59

    I think it’s bad they cut it all away, they should have made a separate movie about it. Because after your explanation for me the plot of second movie is more logical. For example, it seemed that Jake did not expect the return of humans at all and it makes him look very naive. The war of Omaticaya was practically not down and Jake just abandoned his clan. But these comics explain that they prepared, tried and lost, that’s why Jake decided to protect his family at least. And Spider’s arc is clearer now. I also liked that some humans turned out to be traitors

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem +10

      I agree, there’s a lot here that helps the second film make more sense. Glad you enjoyed the explanation!

    • @o-wolf
      @o-wolf Před 10 měsíci +3

      It would've been 10hrs long 😂

    • @anastasialiulina8819
      @anastasialiulina8819 Před 10 měsíci

      @@o-wolf I’d still watch it)

    • @o-wolf
      @o-wolf Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@anastasialiulina8819 yeh same, but they can't put that out it wouldn't be a viable product.. I'm just surprised they didn't put the middle bits on Disney plus as Cameron films everything he storyboards
      He was even talking about serialising it or doing a hateful 8 type showing.. but bob iger probly didn't wana spend the money

    • @anastasialiulina8819
      @anastasialiulina8819 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@o-wolf true! I mean I don’t know what is going to happen in the next movies, but I would rather watch some of those skipped events in movie 2, and then see events of actual movie 2 in movie 3

  • @khristiec6863
    @khristiec6863 Před rokem +20

    I still can't get over the fact that the Na'vi got space suits and everything 😅😅

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem +2

      I know right! They had them specially made to face the humans.

    • @drifteren123
      @drifteren123 Před rokem +9

      honestly didnt like that part - it just seems sooo strange for them to suddenly use rifles in zero gravity yet also walk around half naked using bows and arrowx

    • @mayfielcl
      @mayfielcl Před rokem +2

      @@drifteren123 same

    • @johnyaxon__
      @johnyaxon__ Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@drifteren123exhibitionism

  • @Buffy8Fan
    @Buffy8Fan Před rokem +25

    Movies like this I don't think about Timelines much other than which movie takes place first. Interesting to see it laid out when someone does.

  • @ebbie69
    @ebbie69 Před rokem +7

    wish they went into comic book lore in the movie, the explanation of the previous leaders parents being shunned to a fire/ash clan is very interesting

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem +1

      Maybe they will in the third film. 🤷🏻‍♂️ It wasn’t necessary information in the second film.

    • @HTMN161
      @HTMN161 Před 5 měsíci

      They’re weren’t banished to a fire clan, they were banished to a clan that welcomes Na’vi who have been exiled

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před 5 měsíci

      Which happen to live in the “ashes”.

  • @GokaiRed1121
    @GokaiRed1121 Před rokem +9

    Since there's a 3000 year time gap between Toruk The First Flight and The First Avatar
    I'd love to see stories in that Time period kinda like what Star Wars did with Legends

  • @KaiNahLyria
    @KaiNahLyria Před rokem +20

    👍👍👍👍Fantastic! Thank you Dakota. As a huge fan of the Avatar movies, the Na'vi and Pandora (saw the first movie 14 times and TWoW 11 times, all viewings in IMAX 3D) I *really* appreciate the backstory. You've done a great job of spelling out the context for TWoW, and answering some questions I had.

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem +4

      So glad you liked it! Wow! 11 times! That’s amazing! I appreciate this comment. Thanks!

  • @alfred8.052
    @alfred8.052 Před rokem +20

    Thanks for the avatar content 👍🏻

  • @Bit2bi
    @Bit2bi Před rokem +7

    I love the Avatar movies 💙
    5x in The Way Of Water and counting 🤩

  • @chrism3784
    @chrism3784 Před rokem +7

    I'd like to know more information how Earth discovered Pandora. Was it James Webb Telescope?

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem +2

      Most likely no, it was discovered in the latter half of the 21st century, so most likely it’ll be a far stronger telescope.

    • @chrism3784
      @chrism3784 Před rokem

      @@Geekritique likely later telescopes will be several telescopes placed along earths orbit that will all be working together which would be far superior then a single one of any size and would easily see a planet from a star in the sun's neighborhood

  • @arunlawrence2006
    @arunlawrence2006 Před rokem +2

    This is exactly what I've been looking for. Great video

  • @Ereheru
    @Ereheru Před rokem +3

    Well done as always, looking forward to your next video.

  • @dgurlie-0273
    @dgurlie-0273 Před rokem +3

    Awesome!!! I’m here for all the Avatar info!

  • @aleksbug853
    @aleksbug853 Před rokem +2

    Recoms were definitely developed after events from first movie. In "The Way of Water" it's said that the memories of soldiers were copied right before the battle. We can assume recoms' bodies works similar to avatars. Avatars are fully developed after about five years. Recoms' bodies are definitely younger than 20 years.

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem +1

      Not according to the visual dictionary. Their bodies were maturing before Jake Sully ever reached Pandora.

    • @aleksbug853
      @aleksbug853 Před rokem +1

      @@Geekritique ah, well I might be wrong then. I didn't went through the whole dictionary yet, but some details already made me revise my knowledge about the canon

  • @GokaiRed1121
    @GokaiRed1121 Před rokem +2

    That was amazing

  • @jnort95
    @jnort95 Před 10 měsíci

    Great Video!

  • @beautyneytiri
    @beautyneytiri Před rokem +2

    i hope there will be much more movies than only 5 in total.
    when i saw the sequal, right away i felt like Why do they skip everything ?

  • @taylorthao5264
    @taylorthao5264 Před 10 měsíci

    Love the intro!!!😂💙

  • @TopDiggerYT
    @TopDiggerYT Před rokem +4

    Amazing! Can't wait for the next few MCU videos!

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem +1

      Thanks man!

    • @Buffy8Fan
      @Buffy8Fan Před rokem +1

      @@Geekritique Will the official Black Panther: Wakanda Forever continuity video be out before or after Quantumania?

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem +1

      What would you prefer?

    • @TopDiggerYT
      @TopDiggerYT Před rokem +1

      @@Geekritique I would like before so I can know before seeing the film, but don't rush it, if you can't get it out by the it's ok!

    • @Buffy8Fan
      @Buffy8Fan Před rokem +1

      @@Geekritique It doesn't matter to me. I just have it loosely placed until I see where you have it officially placed was why I was asking. You're the unofficial/official word for my timetable, which only has a few small differences from yours.

  • @robertangus616
    @robertangus616 Před rokem +3

    Hey Dakota do you know when we should expect your full Black Panther: Wakanda Forever timeline video

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem +2

      Now that I’ve released my trilogy of Avatar videos I’m switching gears to the MCU now. Stay tuned.

  • @dianceperez8540
    @dianceperez8540 Před rokem

    Hey Geekritique, are you ever doing to do a timeline video for Ant-Man 3?

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem

      We did a small short video you can find on our channel, but yes. When it’s released digitally, we’ll do a normal timeline breakdown.

  • @Oliver_Quinn
    @Oliver_Quinn Před rokem +2

    For an idea can you possibly do a arrowverse multiverse timeline?

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem +1

      That would be very difficult. Maybe some day.

  • @nyanko5507
    @nyanko5507 Před rokem +2

    Hi! Thank you for video! 😍
    There are a few inconsistencies in "The Way of the Water" in my opinion that are haunting.
    Perhaps you can comment on them correctly.
    1) Where did the Metkayin tribe go in the final battle. Then only Sally remained to fight, as well as Tsireya.
    2) According to the film, all Metkayina speak English. Of course, I understand that it is unacceptable to implement viewing on subtitles here. But is it then worth considering that they actually speak the Navi language?

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem +6

      Hey there. To answer your questions:
      1. That’s a definite plot hole, they’re gonna have to answer that at some point. Either in flashbacks or in the comics.
      2. In the beginning of the film they explain that they’re speaking Na’vi the whole time, but it starts sounding like English to Jake. So yes, the Metkayina are speaking Na’vi.

    • @nyanko5507
      @nyanko5507 Před rokem +2

      @@Geekritique Thanks a lot for your answers! :)

  • @TrustInTheShorts
    @TrustInTheShorts Před rokem +2

    This is the way……of water

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem +2

      Haha! Thanks for the comment! You’re the first on this vid.

  • @michaeltenn983
    @michaeltenn983 Před rokem +1

    The description of the body type of the avatar was around 20 years old, the body itself isn't 20, ship time (because of light speed) it takes 3 years, that's 5 years on earth, in that time they reach adult size

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem +1

      The body was already growing in a lab on earth before Quaritch died on Pandora. 15 years later, it’s not unbelievable that the body had been growing for 5 more years.

    • @michaeltenn983
      @michaeltenn983 Před rokem +1

      @@Geekritique is that like comic book info? I haven't read them but I really want to

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem +1

      It’s explained in more detail in the Visual Dictionary.

  • @ulfberht4431
    @ulfberht4431 Před 11 měsíci

    Why this was t the plot for Avatar 2 boggles the mind.

  • @CalebBrandalise
    @CalebBrandalise Před rokem

    1:20 .. i thought in the explainer video, boss man says theyre sending the samples back to earth and that quarich is about to go on the big bomber mission... so he had full knowledge of all but final deadly battle essentially?

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem +1

      That’s correct, but if you remember the explainer video, Selfridge says they’re growing in a lab on earth as we speak. So it’s likely the Avatar was just a vessel that they were now backing up with memories before their battle.

    • @CalebBrandalise
      @CalebBrandalise Před rokem +1

      @@Geekritique strange they wouldnt need the dna at conception. thanks! great vids

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem

      Well they likely do. Meaning, they took a sample from Quaritch and others years before the memories were sent to earth.

  • @giomorin1031
    @giomorin1031 Před rokem

    Are you going to be doing an in depth Wakanda forever timeline

  • @beautyneytiri
    @beautyneytiri Před rokem

    so in order tounderstand spider's existence you must know the comic books ?

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem +1

      Not necessarily. Most of what we know comes from The Way of Water. The comics just flesh out more of his lore and backstory.

  • @Seba_305
    @Seba_305 Před 11 měsíci

    i feel like avatar franchise is going to be like star wars franchise, there will be struggle, fear one of the family members turns evil something like that, probably in the 4-5 movie idk maybe

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před 11 měsíci

      That would be really interesting!

  • @burgergud2804
    @burgergud2804 Před rokem

    Hey dude u forgot one thing in ur newest mcu timeline, if u reply il say

  • @Fafnd
    @Fafnd Před 5 měsíci

    Well thanks for the timeline. But man this should be a TV series, not a bunch of movies.

  • @MSF-Amaar
    @MSF-Amaar Před 10 měsíci

    You know what I don’t get, is that spider should have an avatar he is the oldest son of jake and neytiri he is even older then Netaym but don’t quote me on that either

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před 10 měsíci +1

      It takes years to produce an Avatar. Just not feasible.

    • @MSF-Amaar
      @MSF-Amaar Před 10 měsíci

      @@Geekritique ooohhhh

  • @Vyvelaeryyn
    @Vyvelaeryyn Před měsícem

    Well it takes 6.75 years to travel to pandora (From the persepctive or earth, 5 years and 9 months in film), and likely they don't have ftl communication, so basically nothing happened to humanity, they magically teleported a call to make a bunch of crap to take over a planet in literally like 7 months then instantly sent it back to pandora
    They could've just made Na'vi age slower than people to keep the children as children but no, they decided breaking their own universes laws is better lol

  • @ginastubbs1783
    @ginastubbs1783 Před rokem

    U forgot about loak

  • @annacole8595
    @annacole8595 Před rokem

    Hold up… norm adopted a Navi orphan???

  • @beautyneytiri
    @beautyneytiri Před rokem +1

    avatar comic books.... WHAT ???
    since when do they eixst ???

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem +2

      We discuss it more in our Avatar Timeline video from December, but they began making them in 2017.

  • @Gallifrey103
    @Gallifrey103 Před rokem +1

    So soon after your last video. Isn't that a bit off-brand for this franchise?

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem +1

      I had this video written before finishing the previous video. This concludes my trilogy of Avatar vids. Had to get it off my chest haha.

  • @andynguyen8342
    @andynguyen8342 Před 10 měsíci

    1st and 2nd Avatar movies are 13 years gap.

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před 10 měsíci

      In terms of how long it took to release. But in-universe it’s slightly longer.

  • @andi_b
    @andi_b Před rokem

    This was great thanks

  • @Person-wz6iy
    @Person-wz6iy Před rokem

    4:09 I WONDER..... Mangkwan.

  • @sethgomez4040
    @sethgomez4040 Před rokem

    Don't forget the video games are also canon.....

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem

      Yep! But as of now we don’t know how they affect these 15 years.

  • @SDJorJakeSully1741
    @SDJorJakeSully1741 Před měsícem

    Did you really Call us morons?

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před měsícem

      “Bros and skxawngs”, you’re either a bro or a skxawng. You decide 🤣

  • @darrenpokorski7756
    @darrenpokorski7756 Před 6 měsíci

    The second movie was an abortion. Absolutely horrible.

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před 6 měsíci

      Loved it. Favorite film of the 2020s so far.