Megalopolis: A Big, Beautiful Mess (Review)

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  • @KarstenRunquist
    @KarstenRunquist  Před 9 dny +22

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  • @DrewG77
    @DrewG77 Před 9 dny +1777

    “There’s so many people when they die, they say, ‘Oh, I wish I had done this,’” Coppola said at Cannes. “But when I die, I’m going to say, ‘I got to do this, and I got to see my daughter win an Oscar and I got to make wine and I got to make every movie I wanted to make.’ I’m going to be so busy thinking of all the things I got to do that when I die, I won’t notice it.”

  • @Zepoz
    @Zepoz Před 9 dny +537

    "Go watch it and form your own opinion." Time to wait if any distribution deals come through within the next year or if he makes some weird release in 5 years on Blu Ray only

    • @minoalymeg
      @minoalymeg Před 9 dny +6

      😂😂😂 my thoughts exactly

    • @realsanmer
      @realsanmer Před 9 dny +13

      You can also just grab a pirate hat.

    • @legorocketraccoon8297
      @legorocketraccoon8297 Před 9 dny +14

      Even without a distribution deal, it should be in IMAX later this year. At least that's what I'd read.

    • @Fivehe
      @Fivehe Před 8 dny +4

      @@realsanmerhow would you pirate an undistributed film

    • @sclogse1
      @sclogse1 Před 7 dny

      Describe "Wait".

  • @someoneghvjvj1808
    @someoneghvjvj1808 Před 9 dny +200

    I was gonna watch it just to say I was able to watch a Francis Ford Coppola film when it premiered.

    • @barry4649
      @barry4649 Před 9 dny +16

      I’m still going to watch it for that reason

    • @Joselitty
      @Joselitty Před 9 dny +3

      Literally same

    • @werideatdusk
      @werideatdusk Před 9 dny +1

      I was there for Jack lol 😅

  • @gracedamiani8007
    @gracedamiani8007 Před 9 dny +175

    I have a feeling that it’s going to be like watching a chaotic Shakespeare play while not understanding any of it

  • @DanielGreeneReviews
    @DanielGreeneReviews Před 9 dny +95

    It sounds like Megalopolis is exactly what I was hoping it would be.

    • @AndySomething
      @AndySomething Před 9 dny +1

      Would love to see a review from you once you get a chance to see it!😃

    • @belloutdoors5217
      @belloutdoors5217 Před 9 dny +2

      He almost spent 120 million defending Salva

  • @mphoapril6617
    @mphoapril6617 Před 9 dny +134

    "but they don't all flow the concepts and ideas the way normal movies work" that's so funny I can't 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

  • @jckpth
    @jckpth Před 9 dny +225

    She on my rocket and that’s money

  • @micahfisher6125
    @micahfisher6125 Před 9 dny +69

    Desperately need for this to get distributed in the US! Hate that it hasnt gotten that yet. This is not a movie i want to watch at home.

    • @yusonghu-rp3nj
      @yusonghu-rp3nj Před 4 dny

      And you technically cannot watch from home😶

  • @motor4X4kombat
    @motor4X4kombat Před 9 dny +41

    Coppola With Steven Spielberg, Martin Scorsese, George Lucas and Brian De Palma use to be Hollywood Renegates in the 70s, for how much their ideas were agaist the hollywood structure.
    And while Scorsese is still doing strong (even though he barelly gets an award), Spielberg and De Palma still working but not doing that great like they use to be, Lucas and Coppola suffer a severe creative stroke in wich they became too overshadow by their own sucesses (star wars and the godfather) as well as them beeing too obsess with their ambitious ideas (the prequels and apocalipse now) that they barelly find work anymore.

    • @shayan357
      @shayan357 Před 9 dny +5

      Damn that's actually a great breakdown

    • @worrywirt
      @worrywirt Před 8 dny +3

      are you saying apocalypse now was a failure? i'm confused.

    • @motor4X4kombat
      @motor4X4kombat Před 8 dny +5

      @@worrywirt it wasn't a failure but it was a literal hell to shoot it over 7 years that cause coppola several metal breakdowns

    • @amimim69
      @amimim69 Před 3 dny

      But they don't need any work.
      They are pretty fine..fulfilled their dreams and also living a very cozy life

  • @DeimanFlores
    @DeimanFlores Před 9 dny +295

    Karsten, my mom said we can’t hang out anymore ever since you made that scathing 10 minute review criticizing the grilled cheese sandwiches she made for us

  • @MichaelMichael-us6wq
    @MichaelMichael-us6wq Před 9 dny +13

    At the end of the day, Coppola at least feels happy that even if doesn’t make a lot of money, for him money just feels unnecessary to him anymore

  • @thewatchtower4747
    @thewatchtower4747 Před 9 dny +10

    There should be a term for movies that contain an equal amount of both legitimately great elements, as well as legitimately terrible ones, I've been noticing more and more of them, like they have some cursed half-life

    • @MarkHWillson
      @MarkHWillson Před 7 dny +1

      Create a new word? Or combine some, like "flawed statement" or some such?

  • @SteveDCM
    @SteveDCM Před 9 dny +174

    You know it’s gonna be a good Karsten when his review is over 10 minutes long.

    • @Lasagnabobby
      @Lasagnabobby Před 9 dny +12

      the review is 10:18 minutes long dude. and also the sponsor segment takes up 1 minute and 20 seconds so i its not really over ten minutes long

    • @sparnage7360
      @sparnage7360 Před 9 dny +13

      @@Lasagnabobby You must be very fun at parties

    • @Pancrasio-it9qd
      @Pancrasio-it9qd Před 9 dny

      xD​@@Lasagnabobby

    • @Lasagnabobby
      @Lasagnabobby Před 9 dny

      @@sparnage7360 i knew it! i knew someone will say that!

  • @parkjh7198
    @parkjh7198 Před 9 dny +43

    Babylon 2024. All for it

  • @bongs1995
    @bongs1995 Před 9 dny +27

    I have not seen it but it sounds like your boss's drug addicted favourite son who is always in and out of rehab but also happens to be an artistic genius that paints masterpieces between benders. Like you said... special.

  • @kinhamid9665
    @kinhamid9665 Před 9 dny +75

    This movie feels like if Caden had actually gotten his play done at the end of his life

  • @VarSUBTOVAR
    @VarSUBTOVAR Před 9 dny +7

    I caught the last screening of it at Cannes and I'm so glad I did because I don't know when this will get distributed. Hopefully this year so more people can see it.

    • @Andrew-of8uq
      @Andrew-of8uq Před 9 dny

      What did you think of it was Shia LaBouf in it a lot and is he insane also is Jon Voight in it a lot I read an early draft of the script and they were the most interesting characters do they both have a lot of screen time?

  • @nicoquet
    @nicoquet Před 9 dny +7

    nah bro still my most anticipated film this year im ready for the schizooooo

  • @mike_sauce
    @mike_sauce Před 9 dny +18

    I audibly went "oh no" seeing the thumbnail.

  • @RichardHannay
    @RichardHannay Před 9 dny +8

    I liked Beau Is Afraid… I will admit it’s a confusing movie but I loved the performances and scenes. I hope Megalopolis is at least similar

  • @jeffk3746
    @jeffk3746 Před 8 dny +6

    Everything I’m hearing about this movie makes it sound like a return to postmodern filmmaking with unclear themes and I think 2020 audiences are gonna hate it.

    • @DushDhajdngm
      @DushDhajdngm Před dnem

      Postmodernism creates dogshit wherever it goes.

  • @averyk4872
    @averyk4872 Před 9 dny +29

    she Francis on my Ford till I Coppola

  • @ntcnetwork9934
    @ntcnetwork9934 Před 8 dny +4

    I don’t think Coppola cares what anyone thinks of this or if it does well. I think he’s just happy to have made it.

  • @RealRoknRollr3108
    @RealRoknRollr3108 Před 9 dny +2

    What a career and life, to already be one of the founders of the Hollywood new wave and have made a few of the greatest cinema works ever, only to then spend a fortune of your own money to see your own artistic vision come to fruition. Hes right, hes earned the right to die satisfied. Im envious but happy for the man.

  • @tomenza
    @tomenza Před 9 dny +9

    I'm actually excited to watch this, I expect it to be whatever it is lol. Love Rumble Fish and other "not good" Coppola movies. IDK, I kinda get it, but also I still enjoy them....

  • @caylynmillard76
    @caylynmillard76 Před 9 dny

    I love that you mentioned “showgirls”-so underrated.

  • @s.ivainesu
    @s.ivainesu Před 9 dny +8

    He picked the wrong time to finally make this film - box office is at an all time low. Shame, looks interesting I will check it out. Even if it is as the reviews say, refreshing to see passion projects at this time.

    • @AndySomething
      @AndySomething Před 9 dny +5

      I mean it's not like there was ever going to be a sequel and Coppola has basically stated he doesn't care if it's financially successful. He's still mega rich, but yeah it'll tank at the box office - like most things right now.

    • @s.ivainesu
      @s.ivainesu Před 9 dny +5

      @@AndySomething He had to sell something - a home i think - it shows he isnt mega rich. a mega rich person pulls money easily, these are people with generational wealth. current rich people are rich in terms of shares, turning that into actual money isnt easy

  • @dylancochrane6296
    @dylancochrane6296 Před 9 dny

    i enjoyed annette so i'm interested to see this, you're right that it seems like a once in a life time sort of film with the hype and stories surrounding it

  • @ishaanwankhade4834
    @ishaanwankhade4834 Před 9 dny

    You know it's a good video when Karsten Runquist

  • @AndrewAnstrom
    @AndrewAnstrom Před 9 dny +22

    This movie has strong "Southland Tales" vibes.

  • @zacharynguyen7286
    @zacharynguyen7286 Před 5 dny

    Incredible video, please continue to make more! ❤

  • @originaozz
    @originaozz Před 9 dny +1

    I don't even care if the story doesn't make sense, it looks epic and like all unique cinenma, entering another world. If a man is willing to spend his own money to make it, you know he's not going to compromise his vision and that makes it a rare breed that deserves attention. I really hope this one will be release in my country.

  • @RED01SEA
    @RED01SEA Před 9 dny +10

    Watching this video is like watching that key and Peele MasterChef skit , what are you trying to say my dude

  • @royjones8312
    @royjones8312 Před 9 dny +1

    I think Cloud Atlas would still be the most expensive independent film of all time by a few million dollars.

  • @dhariyajain4719
    @dhariyajain4719 Před 6 dny +1

    You should do a ranking of your top 10 movie trailers

  • @AndrewPRoberts
    @AndrewPRoberts Před 8 dny +2

    I will take flawed movies that take risks over unimaginative, forgettable nothingness any day

  • @teenagewarhead818
    @teenagewarhead818 Před 9 dny

    Great vid!

  • @Beautyoftheequation
    @Beautyoftheequation Před 9 dny +4

    huh, well that was intresting

  • @ZedAmadeus
    @ZedAmadeus Před 9 dny +1

    It doesn't sound too clunky it just sounds very Shakespearean.

  • @nishapatel-vu9lm
    @nishapatel-vu9lm Před 9 dny +1

    i'm interested in how megalopolis adapts the historical event of the catiline conspiracy,,, obvs it's meant to be a loose adaptation but I can't get over the fact that in this catiline gets with cicero's daughter

  • @cinemacrema2349
    @cinemacrema2349 Před 9 dny +19

    I know this movie will probably be a mess, but just the visuals alone from trailers and all made me wanna see it, it's somewhat alike Copolla's Dracula, whenever I rewatch that it's mostly because of the weird and somehow stunning images, and hopefully this one has that too, at least from what I've seen so far gives me that spectacle vibe, definitely smoking a big freaking J before watching that hahaha

  • @marsco4188
    @marsco4188 Před 9 dny +2

    He's just an old man now. Collecting ideas over the course of 40 years and not cutting off massive chunks will just lead to incredible bloat. Thus, it is only useful as a case study for what not to do. Nothing else.

  • @peterpohle9355
    @peterpohle9355 Před 8 dny

    Fans want to see this movie soon. Francis is an artist like no other.

  • @MaikKellerhals
    @MaikKellerhals Před 3 dny

    I like visually great movies ("The Fall" is one of my favourites), and i don't care if the story doesn't make sense.
    Would i like it? I mean every image I see of this looks just absolutely stunning to me...
    How is the soundtrack? It's never mentioned in any review, but it's also always important to me. I don't mind if the music takes control sometimes...

  • @LeonardoYoshimitsu
    @LeonardoYoshimitsu Před 9 dny

    so when's it hit theaters?

  • @FilmKid14
    @FilmKid14 Před 2 dny

    When does this come out

  • @barbiquearea
    @barbiquearea Před 9 dny

    Wasn't Jude Law originally attached to it as well? I think I saw him as the only cast member of this film's IMDB page a few years back.

  • @luellai1966
    @luellai1966 Před 17 hodinami

    If you ever had the misfortune of seeing the film Twixt you’ll know Francis ford Coppola doesn’t have the chops he used to

  • @Jossarianz
    @Jossarianz Před 9 dny +3

    Is there any release plan in the US for this yet

    • @liamcarmody4217
      @liamcarmody4217 Před 9 dny +5

      All that’s confirmed is a limited Imax run in September

    • @AndySomething
      @AndySomething Před 9 dny

      ​@@liamcarmody4217 I could be wrong but I thought that was still reliant on some distribution deal going through. Think IMAX was just trying to lend credibility to the film.

  • @user-ux3vw6mb4k
    @user-ux3vw6mb4k Před 9 dny +2

    You're seriously one of the best film reviewers around.

  • @lylelylecrocodile2538
    @lylelylecrocodile2538 Před 9 dny +1

    The stage from MegaMan X8?

  • @cheyennecolin5546
    @cheyennecolin5546 Před 9 dny +3

    Ion know chief I was really looking forward to this one but if Karsten has to do this much to sell this movie, it doesn’t sound too good ☹️

    • @marsco4188
      @marsco4188 Před 9 dny

      Something that I noticed after watching this review is how much grace Karsten gives Coppola for making what is clearly just a bloated, overly indulgent movie. If a college student made something so scattered and self-indulgent it would get clowned on; the only material thing in the movie separating the college film and Megalipolis is the allocated budget.
      I think perhaps the worst quality of a critic in general (not talking about Karsten specifically here; Fantano could be a stand-in for example) is being overly charitable to artists who've proven that they can make good art and extremely uncharitable to artists who've made major mistakes in their past art. Such biases are expected because of how our brains work (e.g. empathy, trust), but it unnecessarily and severely narrows our perspectives.
      In contrast, the best quality a critic can have is to ask themselves, "how relevant is the artist to this work?" and changing their judgements accordingly.

  • @noahcaldwell5267
    @noahcaldwell5267 Před dnem

    Aubrey Plaza did a great job as Star Platinum or whatever

  • @thomascuriel7611
    @thomascuriel7611 Před 9 dny

    Watch _Clouds_ _Atlas_ . Similar to _Megalopolis_

  • @cubirk
    @cubirk Před 9 dny

    Where can i watch the movie? I cant find it

  • @bluecollarmenproductions

    It’s a special movie lol

  • @roytl
    @roytl Před 6 dny

    Showgirls mentioned 🗣️🗣️🗣️

  • @derkeheath5172
    @derkeheath5172 Před 9 dny

    I'm a big fan of Richard Kelley's sci-fi movie Southland Tales, with Dwayne Johnson. Is the movie a mess? Yeah, it is. Does it have some bad performances in it? Sure...particularly from The Rock. Do I love it anyway? Hell, yeah. It's got so many great ideas, is so determined to be one-of-a-kind, and reaches so high in the sky that I forgive its schizophrenic tendencies (particularly with the FAR superior Cannes Cut).
    That's kind of the sort of film I'm hoping for with Megalopolis.

    • @Skowl3883
      @Skowl3883 Před 6 dny

      Southland Tales was a mindfuck and ill leave it at that. Take from that as you will.

  • @zephy936
    @zephy936 Před 7 dny

    i was also able to see the movie basically only because my friend is a critic for a media site and the best way i can describe the movie is it is a giant mind fuck like and to me has a lot of meaning considering the political and social climate today I can't even really say if its good or bad yet atleast its definitely something you need to sit with for a while since like Karsten said no questions are really answered its very open ended

  • @CoolJoePwns
    @CoolJoePwns Před 9 dny +3

    The clips are giving Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus vibes.

  • @elenacosta1040
    @elenacosta1040 Před 7 dny

    3.5 out of how much? 3.5 out of how much?!? [Insert goose chasing meme]

  • @sclogse1
    @sclogse1 Před 7 dny

    When I saw the Chrysler Building preview for Megalopolis, with Adam Driver jumping off the building, I was struck by it, as the opening of my short film, completed in 2012, Bum Rap Andre Hunt, is my protagonist jumping off the Chrysler Building. So, you can imagine the buzzing in my head, and of course I wonder if Mr.C. has ever seen my short noir. I might as well post a link: czcams.com/video/CwQ84VaeJ-s/video.html

  • @yrozinc358
    @yrozinc358 Před 9 dny

    I haven't seen it but it seems to fall into the same category as MAD GOD as far as the randomish collection of ideas is concerned.

  • @luccadaughdrill5634
    @luccadaughdrill5634 Před 8 dny

    I fucking loved Annette so you know I think ima like this one

  • @8pagesofalex433
    @8pagesofalex433 Před 9 dny

    Cool

  • @YorgosL1
    @YorgosL1 Před 9 dny

    Any sec scene in this movie

  • @danmonaghan2262
    @danmonaghan2262 Před 9 dny +4

    Is Victor Salva in it?

    • @belloutdoors5217
      @belloutdoors5217 Před 9 dny

      Exactly. Coppola has always been an overrated pos. Diaf boomer

  • @ScottBorder
    @ScottBorder Před 9 dny +1

    I've never been this early before.

  • @GlennaFitch
    @GlennaFitch Před 8 dny

    I keep asking people this but I’m getting extremely Southland Tales vibes from this movie (solely based on the trailer as I haven’t seen it yet). Anyone else??

    • @Skowl3883
      @Skowl3883 Před 6 dny

      I remember watching that movie and thinking "WTF is this?". The whole tone of the film was disjointed as hell and I honestly didn't know what to make of any of it, especially that ending.

  • @Progger11
    @Progger11 Před 9 dny

    Considering that I absolutely hate Annette, its possible I'll reapond to this more positively, since you made that juxtaposition.

  • @nerd26373
    @nerd26373 Před 9 dny

    We appreciate your insights. You’ll always have our support.

  • @CBMX_GAMING
    @CBMX_GAMING Před 9 dny +1

    This sounds like the spiritual successor to the Star Wars prequel movies. Sounds like it rocks

  • @ShirubaGin
    @ShirubaGin Před 8 dny

    If i didn't care for The Godfather then I'm not gonna care for this either. But it looks funny

  • @thedudeabides3138
    @thedudeabides3138 Před 9 dny +1

    Eeeessshhh.
    The media are gonna have a field day with this.
    "Megaflopalis" will be a meme.

  • @user-of5ys6el7c
    @user-of5ys6el7c Před 9 dny +4

    Nobody crazy and sick like francis anymore
    During apocalypse now he sell his house cars and more for make movies and now he sell (some) wine company to make a masterpiece
    I don't give a f what critics say
    I gonna watch it
    Mayby it gonna be flop but in 10 years or 20 years it gonna be one of the best movie ever made for sure "in francis I trust"

  • @trevorjones8969
    @trevorjones8969 Před 9 dny

    The visuals look awful. But I like One from the Heart. And I love Babylon. Xxx

  • @TylerKingNuReview
    @TylerKingNuReview Před 9 dny +12

    Given all of the controversies surrounding this (the casting of Shia LaBeouf who is a literal monster, and Coppola kissing extras behind the scenes), the fact that Coppola hasn't made a watchable film in decades, and the recent proof that's come to light about Coppola boosting the career of Victor Salva, a literal child r*pist, this video will be the most I ever see of this movie.

  • @nahuel
    @nahuel Před 9 dny +3

    I'm interested in this movie but I can't stand the snob narrative that he can do crap and it's bc U DON'T UNDERSTAND ART. And justifying everything bc he once was acclaimed. I love many of his films but he was disgraced in the last 20 years. Can he do whatever he wants? YES, he's Francis freaking Coppola, but that doesn't mean that we have to bow bc he's 80 and did a bad movie. Every cinefile around is walking om eggshells afraid to say it's crap. I appreciate this review since it's honest and clear. We'll wait and see.

  • @davidfeltheim2501
    @davidfeltheim2501 Před 8 dny

    How does one even see this film?

  • @dragonetafireball
    @dragonetafireball Před 9 dny

    I wanna see it

  • @lpc9929
    @lpc9929 Před 9 dny +1

    Im am infertile from eating scented candles. The

    • @Andrew-of8uq
      @Andrew-of8uq Před 9 dny

      What is that from? When did he say that?

  • @joshfactor1
    @joshfactor1 Před 9 dny

    that's doesn't even make any sense; how can we form our own opinion if it has no distribution?

    • @AndySomething
      @AndySomething Před 9 dny

      I think there are international markets with distribution so even if the US didn't get distribution for theatres it'll end up on a streaming platform or you'll be able to pirate it.

    • @thomascuriel7611
      @thomascuriel7611 Před 9 dny

      He watched at Cannes recently

  • @nikitalavrenov4375
    @nikitalavrenov4375 Před 9 dny

    Aesthetically, it reminds me of the latest Matrix, which most of the people hated as well, but I happened to enjoy its boldness and complete freedom from concern over public opinion. I wasn't a hardcore Mateix fan, so the whole meta-irony bit didn't trigger me at all. It feels like with Megalopolis, I'll be able to look past all the "problematic" bits and appreciate it for the unique experience it will likely be.

    • @MarkHWillson
      @MarkHWillson Před 7 dny

      The problem with the new Matrix wasn't the meta-irony - in fact, that is the aspect of it that showed the most promise.... The issue was that the accompanying sincere stuff was just simply no good.

  • @tomaszreview1038
    @tomaszreview1038 Před 9 dny +1

    First liked. Cool video

  • @XanderDDS
    @XanderDDS Před 9 dny +2

    yep, sounds awful

  • @rodgersgeorge6271
    @rodgersgeorge6271 Před 9 dny

    nice

  • @fortniteburger7878
    @fortniteburger7878 Před 9 dny +1

    Fist!

  • @ramboyaltura2310
    @ramboyaltura2310 Před 9 dny

    not great runquist

  • @nicholasmandalik8996
    @nicholasmandalik8996 Před 9 dny +3

    I’ll pass

  • @jonnysmith5998
    @jonnysmith5998 Před 9 dny +30

    If this wasn’t directed by Francis Ford Coppola and you had no idea of the behind-the-scenes, you would not like this film

  • @johannesschmidt3575
    @johannesschmidt3575 Před 8 dny

    it looks awful.. reminds me of the Jennifer Lopez cgi hell

    • @jeffk3746
      @jeffk3746 Před 8 dny

      Genuinely, what? An art house drama vs a direct to streaming action film. What are the similarities besides both having CGI?

  • @charliewright2625
    @charliewright2625 Před 8 dny

    You should have revised the script for the video through a few more drafts you're saying so little with far too many words, sounds pretentious.

  • @divaldoenzo4742
    @divaldoenzo4742 Před 9 dny +2

    Too much talk too little talked, a lot of words and none made sense; you tried tho. Sounded ridiculous tho.

  • @Eudomac99
    @Eudomac99 Před 9 dny +2

    I'm not watching your review, only here to say that releasing a review on this film this early when there are no distribution deals or signs of any release date is quite irresponsible and selfish. Literally 0 of your audience will have been able to see this, and to state your opinion, no matter how subjective it may be, in the title is poor form.

  • @phunkym8
    @phunkym8 Před 9 dny

    while this looks visually interesting, i just dont care about 'class conflict' movies.

  • @tp8271
    @tp8271 Před 9 dny +2

    He was never one of the greats. He got lucky

    • @simontaylor2525
      @simontaylor2525 Před 9 dny +14

      4 times

    • @NoncommercialNonsensicalMusic
      @NoncommercialNonsensicalMusic Před 9 dny +2

      Explain why, please

    • @alwynraynott7303
      @alwynraynott7303 Před 9 dny

      @@simontaylor2525 He's got more than four good films. Maybe only 4 masterpieces.

    • @alwynraynott7303
      @alwynraynott7303 Před 9 dny

      He didn't get lucky. He burnt out after Apocalypse Now, but if you know anything about how he came up, you know he's no ordinary filmmaker.

    • @thomascuriel7611
      @thomascuriel7611 Před 9 dny

      ​@@alwynraynott7303He did _Bram_ _Stocker's_ _Dracula_ . After it, he burnt (at all?)