MCU Timeline Breakdown - MS. MARVEL
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
- Ms. Marvel is caught between the Summer and the Fall of 2025, but which is correct, and why is it so important to correctly place it on the timeline?
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Basant which is actually hindu calender season during winter(Indian), that was ancient Utaraayan hindu festival,we celebrate it on every 14th January
Utarayaan(uatar{north}+ayan{towards})=From this day u can see Sun slightly towards north to south side instead of east to west side
So we celebrate it as a change in seasons throughout india with different different name too
Season changes so farmers start their work from this day too so ppl celebrate for that reason too
Its not banned in india everyone celebrate it with joy
In some states(mine-gujarat) ppl celebrate by flying kites so u r right that represented india
Thank you very much for helping explain that for me. This makes so much more sense now.
@@Geekritique welcome and love ur videos, i wait for ur new videos all the time
@@jadejadhruvrajsinh8370 maybe Doctor Strange tried to fix the damage but accidentally deleted the cap shield as well, and also undeoxidised it
The only explanations I can think of are: the Blip messed up Eid and the citizens of the MCU voted to paint Lady Liberty green and forget about the Captain America shield.
Lol, yeah, I guess we’re gonna need some headcanon explanations to fix those plot holes.
Shield fell off in Spider-Man.
Thank you so much for this Dakota. We are constantly amazed on how your brain works. The dedication to getting the MCUTimeline correct is really appreciated.
Love the idea of INTENT. It is easy to be black and white on these ideas, but that the writers and directors have other motivations when depicting things on screen.
Also, thank you for being sensitive to these nuances, instead of casting it away, just because it doesn't fit your narrative.
That is just one of the reasons why we appreciate your take on the Marvel Timeline. This type of care, sets your MCUTimeline above all others (in our opinion).
Again, thank you.
Thanks Graff, much appreciated. Intent seems to be woven through every fiber of the show, which is why the Eid placement felt so off at first. But if it’s a matter of representation they were trying to show? I can get behind that.
@@Geekritique - Yes, we agree...it can be overlooked...to show the culture in a better light. Glad that the writers and the director were open about thier thought process.
i love this channel so much!! thank you for all the work you put into these videos
Thank you for watching! Have a great day.
Loved the video, as always. Keep up the great work!
Happy you enjoyed it! Thank you.
something I was confused by was Kamala traveling back to 1947, I know the bangle did that and the show makes it seem like a predestination loop, but with how time travel works in the MCU, she would have probably just created a branched timeline, rather than having always done that.
it's super weird.
Yeah it’s not the most straightforward thing. I try not to think about the different types of time travel at this point. It’s just all over the place.
Quantum Realm time travel is based in science, but what we saw here seems to be more magical. I expect different rules.
@@Geekritique Maybe the TVA approved that time travel like they did with Endgame?
Perfection! Great video again. You are improving and becoming more perfect every passing video. I remember older versions of timeline. Ahhhh, years passed but in a good way thanks to your timelines!
Glad to hear I’m improving my craft. Thanks for watching, and sticking around.
@@GeekritiqueYou're very welcome. I'm waiting your timeline videos impatiently after each series & films. 😄👏👏
Are you still planning on doing videos like these on "Captain Marvel", "Avengers: Endgame", "Spider-Man: Far From Home", "WandaVision", "The Falcon and the Winter Soldier", "What If...?", "Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings", "Eternals", "Hawkeye" and "Spider-Man: No Way Home"?
Yeah, it’s all about finding the time.
Heya man, loving the content, It's nice to see someone else care about and put so much working into keeping record of the whole MCU timeline like I've tried before, now I know you're a very busy man but I was just curious, what do you use to make and edit your whole timeline page that includes everything?
I create the visual timeline on Photoshop and upload it to premiere pro to edit.
@@Geekritique thank you so much man, keep doing the good work and hopefully editing isn't giving you too many problems
Another banger video! Keep up the good work! After seeing that whack official timeline they released back in 2018 and seeing how in depth you go, I've trusted your placements much more the actual company since about 4.0 I think.
Glad to have you on board for the ride all these years! Thanks for watching!
I honestly don’t understand how you’re so good at this lol, thank you again for your work!
I just try my best, that’s all there is to it.
Thanks so much for these videos! It's a lot of fun to imagine what a mega-cut of these movies and shows in chronological order would look like.
I really wanted Ms Marvel to be in autumn of 2024 in part because I didn't want the Statue of Liberty's color to be a mistake and it felt more appropriate for the DoDC agent introduced in No Way Home to quickly reappear in Ms Marvel.
Also I like it best when the movies and shows cross over on the timeline.
No Way Home takes place over what looks like late June of 2024 to sometime in December of the same year. That's almost a 6 month period, so it makes the most narrative sense for other stories to be happening at the same time.
Unfortunately, there does seem to be enough evidence to suggest that 2025 makes a little more sense for Ms Marvel.
Currently, my favorite order has:
- Far From Home/No Way Home until the scene with Peter, MJ, and Ned on the roof on their first day back at school
- the 'current day' body of Eternals (due to Phastos' home clearly looking to be shortly before Halloween because of the autumn leaves in his front yard and a carved pumpkin on an outdoor bench)
- No way Home picking up with the scenes where Peter starts getting college rejection letters and continuing until the battle on Liberty Island is over and Andrew & Tobey et al disappear.
- Venom also disappears in the No Way Home mid-credits scene
- the "2 weeks later" scenes from Eternals w half of them leaving on the Domo and then Arishem abducting others a little later. The post-credits scene w Dane and the sword can go here too.
- Multiverse of Madness in its entirety
- Eternals mid-credits scene on the Domo w Pip and Starfox
- No Way Home starting with J Jonah Jameson saying it's been a few weeks since the battle on Liberty Island and then Peter walking to find MJ in the snow/later swinging in Manhattan in the snow.
- This snow is then on the ground throughout the Hawkeye show. (w flashbacks placed earlier in the timeline)
- The Black Widow post-credits scene would be placed during episode 4 of Hawkeye
Putting Ms Marvel in late 2025 does leave a big gap though. Maybe it will be filled by Wakanda Forever or She-Hulk?
That’s a fun timeline for sure. Can’t attest to all of it, but it’s a fun watch order if nothing else. I like the way you address the continuity between titles!
Thank you for watching! Glad you liked it. (I too was pissed about the Statue of Liberty).
That avengers tower and statue of liberty thing really annoy me for some reason. C'mon Marvel.
They annoy me too. It’s so easy.
Its not the first time. Neither Hawkeye or any of the Defenders saga (save for one blink and you'll miss it shot in Jessica Jones) have Avengers tower. They only seem to remember to CGI in Avengers tower in a Captain America, Spider-Man or Avengers movie for some reason
Love your vids man! Me and my girl are watching the shows/ movies in your CORRECT ORDER! I can’t thank you enough and I just joined your patron! I’ve got a request though, I was wondering if you could make a separate timeline (or incorporate it in with the MCU timeline) for the x-man/mutian movies and shows. I plan on watching all of them + the none marvel licensed movies such as legion the older blade movies and Howard the duck right before Dr.strange MOM. Thanks once again we’re on shield season 3 episode 8 and everything is flowing magnificently, your the GOAT
Thank you so much Chris, you’re the best. Hope you and your girl have an incredible journey! While it’s not my immediate concern, it’s something I definitely need and want to do soon. It might be something I begin work on by the the years end. Thanks again for subscribing over at Patreon!
Been watching all of your "When does MCU takes place" and i love it.... It's kinda short but very informative and thank you for that... But some of movies or series timeline are not found in this playlist... Some are in othee playlist... I love it when you put in one playlist so we could watch it from start to end... Others are missing... Like Captain marvel, endgame and hawkeye...
I haven’t gotten around to those yet, I apologize.
@@Geekritique no need to apologize man... You've been helpful for MCU fans... I know how hard it is to disect these stuffs...
Thanks Dakota, these videos really help. I have decided to do a full watch through of the mcu in chronological order using your order not Disney Plus’ order. I’m excited to see where I am Groot takes place as it looks like an origin story for Groot so it might take place quite early on the timeline.
Thank you for all of your work.
Supposedly I Am Groot is not the same timeline or continuity as the MCU, but we’ll see about that. Hope your rewatch goes well!
Love to see it Dakota!!
Thanks Jackson!
Nice video. You should do review of the Marvel movies, also more timelines of other franchises.
Thanks for the tip! I’ve got some other franchises in mind 😉
man, i would have loved to have the full image of the timeline but i dont have patreon subscription , but i can still check the timeline in the video, but anyway KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK, you deserve more subscribers
Thank you, if you head over to my Twitter page you’ll find a smaller version pinned to the top of my page. twitter.com/geekritique_dak
@@Geekritique thank you very much, by the way keep up the great work , your timelines are better than the D+ timeline
I appreciate it! Have a great day!
And for anyone wondering "why is the holiday the most important factor in placing Shang-Chi if it's not the most important factor in placing Ms. Marvel?", it's simple:
The plot of Shang-Chi *depends on* the Qingming Festival specifically, as it's the only time Wenwu can reach Ta Lo safely with his troops. It being a holiday for the dead also fits thematically with Ta Lo being a city of heaven & with the Dweller tempting Wenwu with false promises of his dead wife.
The plot of Ms. Marvel *doesn't* depend on Eid Al-Adha; Kamala could've saved that kid at _any_ outdoor public event, & Eid was chosen for the reasons Dakota specified in the video. The plot _does,_ however, depend on it being early in a school year, also for the reasons Dakota specified in the video.
Thanks for explaining that a bit. Very true. And yeah, also with Shang-chi, there’s o other timeframe worth exploring. It has to be during the Qingming festival.
Amazing video again, also I don't know who confirmed it but I saw on Twitter that Thor: Love and Thunder chronological place is between The Falcon and The Winter Soldier and Moonknight just as you put in your Timeline!! So congrats on that 'cause it proves that all the effort you put in doing these videos is not wasted and helps a lot of us to have a better understandement of this universe!
I wish I knew who or how that was confirmed, but if true, that would be really cool. Thanks for watching!
@@Geekritique Maybe they saw your video about When does Thor: Love and Thunder take place? and they decided that your place in the Timeline made more sense than any other place that they would think of 😅
That would be hilarious 😆
I can’t wait to watch this on my MCU watch (using 7.0). I’m up to captain America the winter soldier
You’ve got a lot ahead of you, enjoy!
Totally understand your reasoning but I think i will go with centering the story around Eid than the school year. I feel like it is way more important than the school yesr. It also lines up more with spring in Pakistan (if you squint a bit haha).
Your percentage breakdowns are the best😂😂
The Eid timeframe is important, for sure. And thanks! Glad you like them.
Great video. I totally agree with your assessment that the series doesn't have to occur on the actual date of the Eid celebration and rather that the series happens when it makes the most narrative sense (i.e. Fall of 2025). For what it's worth, I think the same can be the case with Shang Chi and that it could occur when the Disney+ timeline places it (i.e. July 2024) rather than when Qingming Jie occurs in early March. Just my 2 cents on that. But great video. Very nice work!
Yeah that’s a possibility for sure. I’ve been thinking on similar lines lately. If there’s any proof in She-Hulk about Shang-Chi, I might have to move my placement.
@@Geekritique Yeah, that's what I'm thinking as well. She-Hulk may really help explain things, based on its placement. I just can't believe that the Disney+ timeline is so off base. It is strange looking, but I think they are consulting with someone at Marvel before placing items. Oh, and throw Far From Home in the mix of movies that ignore when something really happens. The Festival of Lights is in October each year but FFH clearly takes place over summer break. So that may be three movies/shows (Shang Chi, FFH and Ms. Marvel) that include cultural events on dates other than when they really occur. It's weird when they do that, but as you point out so well, the creators want to include the events and aren't concerned with their actual timing in the real world.
Always love your breakdowns and judging by the ending the Marvels may actually take place right after Ms. Marvel, but I still look forward to the breakdown when the movie drops.
Thanks so much! Glad you like the breakdowns!
@@Geekritique thanks, I would like to know your option of my theory of where The Marvels may take place.
Several people have asserted the d+ timeline placing moon knight at the end wasn't a mistake, it's meant to be a temporary placement. The real time frame depends on when titles like Blade take place, which is suspected to have Moon Knight. I agree and am sure they just wanted to keep the timeline open. But fatws being swapped with eternals and iron man 3 being swapped with dark world is reason enough to worry about the validity of the d+ timeline.
Possibly. I consider Moon Knight to be placed in June 2024, per my recent video. It may be retconned at some point.
@@Geekritique Yeah I absolutely agree, the moon phases match too well to be a coincidence (great video btw). My point was that in case it does get retconned whoever is running that d+ timeline section probably wants to play it safe. I actually think that if Moon Knight appears in Blade, and Blade takes place not long after eternals, then Moon Knight takes place not long after Eternals which is exactly where you have it placed!
I don't see any reason to think that the Eternals post credits scene w Blade's voice has to be very shortly after Moon Knight. Maybe you have seen something I haven't?
I currently personally have Moon Knight shortly prior to Far From Home and the 'current day' events of Eternals during the early part of No Way Home.
After all, Phastos has a carved pumpkin at his house, while MJ has to take down the Halloween decorations part was through NWH.
@@jackprather3471 Yeah I worded that really weirdly. What I actually meant was that if Blade takes place in the same year as Eternals, and Moon Knight appears in it, that would mean that Moon Knight takes place before Blade, and probably shortly after Eternals. If Blade is the next time we see the character it's probably not long after Moon Knight wraps up.
This was excellent
Thank you very much!
Hi, I'm a big fan of your work. I have a question.
Can you do a same video like this but with phase 5?
Do you have to watch phase 5 or can you do it just jet?
Because I also want the best phase 5 time-line in MCU. Does it work?
Hi Moon Knight. I’d love to make a timeline for Phase 5, but I haven’t seen it yet. I’ll be updating our timeline with new videos for each Phase 5 title.
I think that the actual time that this takes place will be revealed in The Marvels. As to whether it actually makes sense is yet to be seen but personally I think that it may be retconned to take place in late March.
Late March? How do you get that?
Great video as always!
Just wanted to bring this up, you mentioned around 10:33 that there are no Muslim holidays in fall, which is technically true, but only because all Muslim holidays fall on the Hijri calendar, which is a lunar calendar that moves around 10 to 11 days on the regular solar calender every year.
So they *can* fall in, well, fall
It's just that the most prominent ones don't in the year this movie takes place in
I know you probably already know this, but I wanted to leave it here as a PSA
Again, great video! and thanks for putting in the effort to pronounce words as accurately as possible, kind gesture
Great point!! I was wondering that actually. I knew it shifted each year because it’s a lunar calendar, but I wasn’t sure if it cycled the entire year. Good to know.
Oh, how’d I do on the pronunciation? Be honest lol
Yeah it's just like the regular calender, only each month is a full cycle of the moon around the earth, every 12 months make up a year which is 354 days long, year 0 in the hijri calendar is the year prophet Muhammad moved from his hometown Mecca to a city that has come to be known since as "the enlightened city" which is where the word hijri comes from. Hijri means relating to hijra, which means migration in arabic
As good as you could've I promise 😂 most of the arabic words you had to pronounce use some of the more difficult phonetic sounds in the language so you can't be blamed for not getting these perfect lol
Haha, okay good, I tried my best 😭
Eid is a moving holiday depending on the lunar calendar. Eid al-adha occured in September in the years 2015, 2016 and 2017 and will occure again in the years 2047, 2048 and 2049. So it's not impossible that the MCU simply has a different Lunar Calendar than our real world. And you know what that reconciles? Moon Knight's placement in 2025. If the phases of the moon are different in the MCU, the phases of the moon in Moon Knight might work with a 2025 placement.
And why would the moon phases be different in the MCU? Well simple: If Khonshu can change the phases at his whim and the Moon Knight is stronger during a full moon, I'm certain he has manipulated the moon many times to give his various avatars power boosts throughout the years during difficult battles. Especially during the time that the Ennead were worshipped and wouldn't banish Khonshu for messing with the sky. Over-time, that added up and threw off the MCU's lunar calendar and thus the various moving celebrations like Eid and Easter.
I'm gonna do some more research on this and DM you if I have more concrete evidence! Thanks for all the work you do!
I know it's old news, but they have since edited the Statue of Liberty to bronze.
Which I’m pretty happy about personally!
Hi geekritique, love your videos, so I might have han aprox and the next projects of the mcu somewhat based in the show
From the marvels trailer, it look like its start where ms marvel ended, secret invasion must ocurred during may to octubre, since we see everret ross in the trailer and maybe hes running fron the feds (from wakanda forever) and nick fury is present in the trailer (in now way home its menciont he hasnt been to earth in a year), the president during secret invasion has to happened something for him so general ross can be the president, so captain america 4 can be early 2026 and thunderbolts can follow up closely
That what ive gather but who knows
This is some great deductive work. Lets see how it all pans out, but you might be right!
Great video. put that in its spot in my mcu calendar. I have 2 questions though (not about this video though). 1. Now that Thor: Love and Thunder shows that Thor was on earth half the time between age of Ultron and ragnarok and how there was a darryl cameo in new Asgard, do you think the Team Thor shorts are now canon? 2. are the I am Groot shorts canon?
The Team Darryl shorts are still not canon, he wasnt on earth during Civil War. Groot shorts? They’re sort of canonical. More on that in a future video.
Hmm...a different opening, nice.
I wonder if it would've been better to just try to commit to having this be set in June. But I guess the foliage would've just been distracting so it's probably a bit lose/lose here.
Yeah I think they put themselves in a bit of a corner.
14th of March is Pi Day, and maybe hallal man sells pies....
Just after Hawkeye. Fits well after the past credit scene.
Hawkeye goes into January. There is a Chinese New year sign.
The video explains well that it occurs in September/October, many months after Hawkeye.
@@Geekritique it starts earlier than that.
Still placed after Hawkeye.
How does it start earlier? You mean the flashbacks to the 40s?
Great video man! I always assumed it was summer 2025 based on Eid alone but yeah I think you're right in saying that the show went with going in the route of showing representation than actually going by where the show is actually set which as a Muslim myself I don't mind and actually love especially when they did an amazing job at it!
Glad to hear the representation of the show was strong, on a personal level. And doubly glad to hear you liked the video. Thanks bro!
@@Geekritique Anytime man, can’t wait to see more of your future content 🙌🏾💯
Yo! Will the new original shorts on Groot be canonical? And if so, are you also gonna adress their timeline placement? :D
I hope so, and I’d like to!
I wonder what the mcu timeline will look like when phase 6 ends
BIG.
Great video! Is "When Does the MCU Take Place?" videos still being planned for the 2019 & most 2021 releases?
I would like to, definitely. It’s all about finding time between current projects.
This is a bit of a shot in the dark, but would the trees be out of sync due to the blip? Thanos eliminated half of all living things. Surely that means half all trees as living things must’ve been dusted too? So would the trees that got dusted in Summer 2018 and then blipped back into existence in Fall 2023 still be in their summer phase?
No, that’s not how they work. Trees detect seasons by the amount of light coming from the Sun, and the type of light. When there’s less, their photoreceptors know to shed their leaves.
@@Geekritique Thanks! I’m no tree expert, but I did wonder if that would be a possibility. It’s funny though, imagining a tree blipping back into existence like “Woah, what the hell?!” and immediately shedding its leaves. 😂
That would be very funny ahaha
They fixed the green statue of liberty scene if you go back and watch it its copper
Awesome!
Have you heard: I am Groot is canon and takes place after GotG 2.
I think this can be interpreted either way! Jeez i remember version 1.0 of this timeline 😂 simpler times
Yep, I think that’s true.
If we conclude that Ms. Marvel's Eid takes place in September, wouldn't that mean that we can't assume that any holiday falls on the same day of the year that it does in our universe? And as such, wouldn't that throw Shang-Chi's placement into question as well as our ability to use the pumpkins on Phastos's porch in Eternals as evidence? And if holidays don't have the same dates in the MCU as in our universe, we can't assume that the school year is the same in the MCU as in our universe, which might throw off some of the other Spider-Man/Ms. Marvel productions.
The difference being that Eid is a holiday that regularly orbits our calendar. Every year it’s 11 days earlier. So it will eventually be in September. The other holidays featured in the MCU are fixed, and the school year is logically oriented with summer breaks and other holidays featured.
@@Geekritique Perhaps that's more evidence for Moon Knight taking place before Ms. Marvel? Khonshu screwed up the normal lunar cycle which threw off the lunar calendar?
I would ignore the misplacement of Eid, I would chalk it up to Eid being placed in fall to the “Marvel Universe” because Eid changes date every year. given that, it can be explained that on Earth 616, Eid took place in Fall of 2025
That works for me!
Time to kick back, relax, and learn about something that won’t put me to sleep
Enjoy!!
Note no shield on the Statue of Liberty either.
Yep, it’s reverted back to the way it was pre-2024.
I mean, it fell off. ;)
Loved the video
I've been looking for a logically accurate timeline for the MCU for a long time. Glad to have stumbled upon this channel and subbed
Small issue I have is the placement of Eternals however. Based on Ajak's own words the Thanos snap happened five years ago - placing the Eternals in 2023.
Tiamut's emergence was postponed by the snap, which means right after the Avengers brought everyone back again the Emergence would be imminent, so it would suggest that Eternals happened very shortly after Endgame. Maybe it predates WandaVision? What do you think?
Glad you enjoyed the video. As for Eternals I’ll have to give it the timeline treatment I’ve been giving newer titles. I haven’t yet. Though the 5 years ago line would still be good through roughly April of 2024, I could see 2023 working nicely.
@@Geekritique I'm looking forward to your Analysis of Eternals and the other titles
Id really like to download an updated image of timeline. I subscribe and keep up with all your content. Please don’t lock the one good timeline behind another paywall like disney+.
I understand. We have a smaller version of the timeline downloadable pinned on our Twitter page. twitter.com/geekritique_dak
@@Geekritique Your the best. Thankyou:)
Bro I think you're going make your timeline video after She-Hulk or after Wakanda Forever😥😭😭😭😭
I might have to 🤷🏻♂️
@@Geekritique I hope Wakanda Forever you'll do it
It takes place in March as it occurs around Eid al-Fitr
We explain why that isn’t the case in this video.
I rewatched the video and realised my mistake, however I personally am going to change it from March and place it at the end of the school year, just before summer, until more definitive evidence is provided
PS I'm not trying to hate, I respect everyone's right to their own opinion
No worries.
I blame Kang for the time fluxes.
As you should!
Nah, i blame Khonsu. remember islam calendar use the moon to determine month(unlike gregorian calendar which use the sun)
Khonshu messed it up!!
I think Multiverse of madness was misplaced. We know Multiverse of Madness takes place after No Way Home. And no way home take place a little before Hawkeye. So idk why Hawkeye is placed afterwards
We explain the reasoning in our Multiverse of Madness timeline breakdown.
@@Geekritique yes I watched that last after watching this. Interesting video, nice job on this one and on the other ones
I’m glad you liked them. Appreciate it.
Wait did you place Thor: Love and Thunder on there already?
Tentatively, yes 😉
Do Movie/Series review, I'm pretty sure more people will sub to ur channel .. or doing some breakdown of each episode of D+ show, reaction to SDCC reveals something like that.
Thanks for the tip!
(MCU) Peter Parker would be 19, based off the current MCU Timeline, right?
I believe so.
In ,,No Way Home" he is 23.
He only counts the number of birthdays he’s had total.
So it is not longer free?
The first two updates were free, because they fixed issues with the original timeline. Update v7.2 is not free, no.
@@Geekritique Damn I have no credit card
Sorry, try to screenshot the video.
@@Geekritique I did haha but It was cool to have the complete thing anyways thank you for your content you are the best
Thank you! Glad you like it.
Is it like this Loki What If...? WandaVision Eternals Shang-Chi The Falcon and The Waiter Soldier Moon Knight Thor Love And Thunder Is That the Timeline 🤔🤔🤔
I would just switch Love and Thunder with Moon Knight.
@@Geekritique Okay 😅😅😅
*gasp* I'm not the first one here this time😱
They are learning 🤔
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@@Geekritique aye
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I appreciated the inclusion of history, religion, and culture I am not as familiar with. Unfortunately, that was the best part of the show to me. I didn't feel immersed in the MCU while watching. I think if they had drawn attention to some of the things that had impacted the world more consistently (like the altered the Statue of Liberty) I may have been more drawn in. A cameo somewhere from someone else would have also been welcome.
It was definitely one of the more self-contained stories. I don’t think I needed any more cameos personally, but that’s just me. I too felt the culture and people were the most interesting and enjoyable.
Fully agree with the September placing but I'll stick with 2024 just because I don't like the idea otherwise that it jumps so far ahead in the present day.
Do what you gotta do 🤷🏻♂️