MCU Timeline Breakdown - DOCTOR STRANGE IN THE MULTIVERSE OF MADNESS
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- When does Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness take place? We placed it in the Spring of 2025 in our MCU Timeline v7, but is that correct? Usually the Disney+ timeline placements can be discarded as false, but is there any truth to the idea that Doctor Strange 2 occurs in 2024, before Hawkeye? We dig into everything we know to help us out.
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Thank you for clearing this up for me! I was so confused because I didn’t know if I wanted to believe Disney+ after their many mistakes or you in the timeline video. But after you broke it down, I can come to the conclusion that both you and Disney+ got it right. Keep up the good work!
Thank you for watching! Glad to be of service!
Newspapers usually bury the retraction in the paper...so that it was done, but not everyone sees it.
This is really great to see the integrity of your brand being preserved and lauded...by owning it and continuing to show that your MCUTimeline is superior to the Disney MCU Timeline.
Another great video. Thanks for the clarification. Great catch and thanks for making it right...as we know you always will.
Just another reason why Marvel needs to hire your survices...for even the correction was done amazingly.
Thanks.
This is a great comment. Thank you. I never want to brush aside what I’ve gotten wrong.
What if Wanda's orchard was in say Australia or New Zealand? Then it would be Spring in November. I don't believe this to be the case, but it's an interesting thought.
That’s definitely a possibility. But yeah; currently there is no suggestion in-film where her orchard is located.
@@Geekritique didn’t she find a new place at the end of wandavision? Didn’t they say it there?
I don’t believe she mentioned where that is though.
Her orchard was a hex. It wasnt real, those trees are actually dead
Yeah, but they’re dead because of their proximity to the Darkhold. Where the orchard takes place could be anywhere.
7:49 - I know this is going to sound weird, but...the events on Earth-838 are taking place in the year 2021. Just like the events of "Morbius" and the second "Venom" took place in 2020. In the post-credits scene, the Vulture will move from 2024 to 2020 (but in a different universe).
Time is an unstable thing in the multiverse, really. When someone (or something) moves from one universe to another, the time will not always be exactly the same. Pay attention to "What if...?". Watcher collected "Guardians of the Multiverse" from different universes, and everywhere the year was different. (Peggy in 2014, Party Thor in 2010/2011, Supreme Strange in 2018, Killmonger in 2009/2010)
And then there's Spider-Man: Into the Universe where Spider-Man Noir was pulled out of his 1930s universe. Well, yes, Sinister Strange mentioned Christina's wedding, which, according to the events of the film, was not so long ago. His universe takes place somewhere in the second half of the 20s.
In short, when MCU is 2024, it does not mean the same year in the rest of the universes.
That’s a great point. I’ll take that into consideration in the future.
so does this mean that the last sequence in No Way Home would be set after Multiverse Of Madness? Similar to how Black Widow takes place before the ending of Civil War? Great video btw!
That would be my best guess. But it is a guess.
Wow! So you are saying that the time elapsed for America Chavez to start training, Stephen getting the third eye (which clearly distressed him), and the post-credit scene (where Stephen seems fine) was so short that it ALL happened in the fall?
That’s what we know. At the very least, the America Chavez one was shortly after the film’s climax, as Kamar-Taj was still partially in ruins.
My only thing is when Peter goes to give mj the letter at the diner it’s already showing and Christmas decorations are up. So MoM takes place before NWH even ends. Doesn’t make any sense. But that’s marvel for you lol
Thank you for all the work you're doing to make sense of the super messy convoluted Marvel timeline, it's really helpful to understand the chronological order of things, especially now in Phase 4.
I agree. And you’re welcome. Glad I can help.
Dang you really meant it was coming out very soon when I asked literally yesterday😂 keep up the great content, your hard work is appreciated
I know! I was very serious haha. Thanks for watching.
Amazing in-depth video as always! Love every timeline video you do, man. As someone who loves timeline stuff and figuring out where each entry into a series takes place, your videos are a godsend! Keep up the great work :)
Glad you like it! Thanks for watching.
@@Geekritique Of course, man. Your stuff highly underrated and I hope down the road you get a ton more subs. Til then I'll keep telling everyone to check you out! :)
You’re the best, thank you!
I uploaded a very nice video about the timeline feel free to check it out I would appreciate that 👍
No one could've explained it better than you my friend 👏
Thank you for watching!
so glad I found this channel, happy to be here on this multiversal ride. love it!!
I’m glad you found it too!
Best Marvel breakdown video I've seen in a really long time... keep it up man
Glad you enjoyed it. Will do!
amazing vid, as ever
Thank you!
I love your work. Keep persevering. ❤
Thank you, I will!
I must applaud your efforts in deciphering this timeline! If I ever decide to rebinge the MCU, I'm using your timeline order! Love your work and each time you upload, it does put a smile on my face.
Side note: So I'm guessing this means "Ms. Marvel" is set after "Multiverse of Madness" and "Hawkeye"?
Thank you! Glad you enjoy the content. As for Ms. Marvel? Yes, I believe it’s after the two of them.
good video as usual !
Thanks Nolan!
I believe the date shown on the monitor in Earth-838 is the date in that universe, whilst Earth-616 takes place concurrently but has a different year.
Amazing video man! I also thought the movie took place during spring of 2025 but after watching the video I guess Disney Plus right all along. Also, I really like the thought of Wanda's hex subtly telling the audience that something is wrong before the reveal, I think that's pretty damn cool!
Thanks bro. And as for the hex, it’s only a theory, but if they did purposely do that, it would be so cool!
@@Geekritique Yeah agreed! Once again fantastic work (pun unintended), can't wait for your Ms Marvel timeline breakdown and other future videos!
Nice video. Also, the post credit scene where Doctor Strange meets Clea for the first time, it looks like the event is taking place in early spring of 2025. Probably around April 2025. So your place you put previously was right just not the whole movie lol.
That’s a possibility. But the foliage is similar enough that it could simply have been the next day just as easily. 🤷🏻♂️ no way to tell. I chose the simpler answer.
Excellent catch. I didn't even notice the actual weather, only how people were dressed, which could've been for fall or early spring.
Once you notice it you can’t un-notice it!
I live for these videos
Me too man, me too.
THANK YOU!! about wanda and her spring camp, we could theorize that where she is is in the southern hemisphere because if it's autumn in the north, it's spring in the south. we never knew where she hid after WandaVision
Or we could assume she wanted it to look like spring so she made it look like spring
Oh hello early morning MCU timeline video
Thanks for stopping by!
@@Geekritique dude I’ll always be stopping by. I love the videos. Not to take away any credit from you but if I was a bit more motivated I’d be doing the same thing. 🤣
Lol, awesome. Glad to hear I’m not the only one who enjoys timeline discussions.
Hey Dakota! You might remember my comment a couple weeks back about the day the Snap takes place. Now I can say with certainty it's either April 26th or 27th, 2018 - which also happen to be the Thursday and Friday opening days of Infinity War.
What cements this (on top of the two-week line What If gave us that I mentioned last time) is the flip phone that Steve gives Tony: when Tony is in the Sanctum before Maw and Obsidian's attack on NYC, the phone displays "Wed", so we know the first day is Wednesday the 25th. Now, you know I'm partial to the Snap happening on the 26th for the irony of it being "Thor's Day", but I think two days is a valid reading of the in-film timeline if the Quinjet Cap's team has is fast enough; they don't seem to spend too long in any one spot (they're in a bit of a rush, after all) and we only actually see one night pass on Earth, so they could MAYBE make it to Wakanda by early evening there (which we know it is, because the Snap happens at 10:24 am in SF. Time zones are a little wonky in this movie, but whatever). If not Thursday, though, it's definitely Friday the 27th. The line in WI and the Wednesday day from the flip phone is enough to put the Snap on one of those two days.
That’s good reasoning. I’ll have to dig in a bit further to see if I agree. Thanks for bringing this to my attention.
@@Geekritique Of course, thanks for the response! No worries if you come to a different conclusion - or no conclusion. I'm just drawn to the idea of having a date for the Snap. And your AMatW video is what made this reasoning possible in the first place!
IF you end up agreeing and IF you end up mentioning it in the future and IF you want to give any credit (none of which I feel obligated to), you can call me Lance, my real name, instead of Pance lol
Out of the numerous complaints I had with the movie, possibly the biggest was not explaining when Wong went and got Shang-Chi. You picking up the dates on the watches was crazy, but... given the obsession I am not surprised. Lol
Hahaha 🤣
I too was peeved about that. We need more info on that whole side of him.
Hi, I'm a big fan of your work. I have a question.
Can you do a same video like this but with phase 5?
Do you have to watch phase 5 or can you do it just jet?
Because I also want the best phase 5 time-line in MCU. Does it work?
Hi Moon Knight. I’d love to make a timeline for Phase 5, but I haven’t seen it yet. I’ll be updating our timeline with new videos for each Phase 5 title.
@@Geekritique Oh. Ok. Thank you so much!
I really appreciate it. Thank you!
I have already subscribed you! I have seen your last videos and I have to say: your videos are very good. Do not give up!😍❤💯💯🤓
Thanks so much!
Regarding that Fandango article; I may be partially responsible for your initial confusion.
After I attended that early fan screening (which I can talk about now), I said:
"According to Fandango, the film takes place 'roughly a few months after the events of Spider-Man: No Way Home'. This seems to be accurate, as the film appears to take place in spring."
My logic at the time was to start with any mention of its time-frame already on record and then compare it with the film as I could remember it. With no other mention of that time-frame, I'm not sure why Fandango thought it takes place a few months later, though I think I must've underestimated the importance of the word roughly in that sentence. (As you pointed out, it does seem more obviously speculative in hindsight.) Perhaps it was the orchard scene that threw me off? Or perhaps it was not being able to pause and notice background details. Either way, I remember thinking it correct at the time (or at least not thinking it incorrect) even though it wasn't corroborated anywhere else and it being phrased vaguely. But I can always rely on you to figure it out in the end.
By the way, Michael Waldron told Deadline's Hero Nation podcast that it was initially written with the expectation of being released before Spider-Man: No Way Home. That's got to have had an effect somewhere.
deadline.com/2022/05/doctor-strange-2-loki-season-2-michael-waldron-podcast-1235018532/
Maybe you were part of the initial confusion? 🧐 Not sure. It was one of the earliest interviews with Raimi at the time. I can’t remember if I had seen the article before or after you messaged me.
And yeah, after COVID, Marvel’s lineup was shaken around. Everything filmed needed reshoots and everything unfilmed needed to be rewritten. It’s interesting.
I still think MOM is in early to mid 2025, I just think that the "most recently" line means that NWH happened not too long earlier, but like a few months earlier actually.
also the dates being 2021 on Earth-838 could mean that Earth-838 in MOM is in 2021 at that time, which doesn't really affect much since it's another timeline/universe.
another also, I'd love if you did a video explaining how the MCU Multiverse works and how new timelines branch out, to then eventually become so different from other timelines that they become different universes entirely, though this video could just be your view on how it works, base on how the MCU has shown it thus far.
3rd also, do you think any of the Fox Marvel movies are canon to the MCU's Multiverse (since Disney has owned them for a few years now)? I'm sure Patrick Stewart as Professor X in MOM was supposed to imply that the Fox X-Men films happened in other branched timelines (I do mean plural, cause given of the continuity in those movies, it's likely they all came from the same branch, but then happened in different branched timelines from that branch, which would mean that similar events happened, and it would explain the many continuity errors, though I do wonder how far back it's original branch goes, given that Apocaplyse was around in 3600 BC, as well as played by Oscar Isaac, which will definitely not be the case in the main MCU timeline), meaning that that Charles was a Variant of the Fox X-Men one, but I don't know about any of the Fantastic Four movies or the 2003 Daredevil movie.
That’s a definite possibility. The purpose of this video was to display all of the facts within the film, every reference to time and season, and there’s simply far more evidence it occurs in Fall 2024, over early 2025. I could be wrong though. 🤷🏻♂️
As for 838, there’s no evidence that MCU Chavez travels in time, because it seems a one-to-one jump between parallel universes. More likely it’s a mistake in the movie than a purposeful point that the timelines aren’t in sync.
I’d like to make a video on the multiverse! Definitely in the cards.
As for X-Men, no clue. I don’t currently consider any of them canon.
The only thing I argue is that the second half of NWH takes place after Halloween. Because someone yells at MJ to take those Halloween decorations down and then Peter looks at a witch ornament and that’s where he gets the idea to go get stranges help half way through the movie. So it’s probably early to mid November. Then at the end of the movie when Peter goes to the diner to give MJ the letter it’s already snowing and Christmas decorations are up. So we’re expected to believe that MoM takes place in the 1-2 weeks before NWH even ends??? So Strange fixes the spell at the end of the movie, then a day or so later MoM happens and concludes and then Peter goes to MJ at the diner?
Another one. Pls do a timeline for Star Wars Saga.
That’s one I’ve wanted to do for a long time.
I feel like you should add the fox X-men movies to the multiverse edition for 3 reasons
1.) Charles is played by Patrick Stewart and earth-838 Charles could be a variant of the fox X-man universe
2.) Earth-838 Charles says Just Because Someone Stumbles And Loses Their Way Doesn't Mean They're Lost Forever witch is a direct quote from Days of Future Past
3.) Deadpool 3 is said to be set in the Mcu
In my opinion the order for the X-men movies goes like this X-men first class, wolverine X-men origins, X-men, X2, last stand, the wolverine, days of Future Past, apocalypse, dark Phoenix, Deadpool, and then the new mutant ants and Logan because I Believe them to be set in a parallel universe and the word multiverse to me means parallel universes taking place in both past present and future times, and then Deadpool 2 in my timeline I put these after What if but before wandvision because of Evan Peters being in it, and again this is all just my opinion.
I may eventually. And I want to. It’s just a ton of work to get right. When the time comes, definitely.
@@Geekritique i think 838 is more of a varient of animated Charles... He has more of the look of that version lf the character.
But to be fair they are all varients of eachother soo
Hey, Dakota! Have you seen Thor: Love and Thunder? If so, do you still stand by the December 2023 date? I’m very confused on when it takes place because Taika Waititi stated in an interview that it takes place a few years after Endgame.
Currently believe it’s in May 2024.
Sorry, didn’t see that you messaged me back. It also looks like the Team Thor One-Shots are canon now, since Darryl shows up as a tour-guide for the Mjolnir exhibit.
It can’t be December 2023, because Jane Foster says she’s had cancer for 6 months and we know she blipped
Do you think the dates on the computer in universe 838 could reasonably indicate the current date in that universe? Assuming Thanos happened in 2018, and they beat him, they wouldn't have had the 5 year time skip before things were back to normal.
That’s a possibility, but it’s not determined whether America Chavez’ powers in the MCU involve time travel or if it’s a one to one crossing between parallel universes.
Hello again
Hello old friend.
So what if the orchard was on the opposite side of the world? They never actually said where that orchard was, and there was a wooden crate with some foreign language on there meaning that it more than likely isn't in the US.
There’s a possibility that could be the case, which would only further cement the possibility that this occurred in Fall 2024!
- My current guess is that Ms Marvel takes place during No Way Home, between Peter's first day of school and when he starts receiving rejection letters from colleges.
- That leads directly into when he visits MJ at work where her boss tells her to take the Halloween decorations down.
- That seems to put that scene in early November, leaving plenty of space for MoM to take place a week or two later.
- J Jonah Jameson says it's been a few weeks after the battle at Liberty Island when Peter is walking through the snow to see MJ at the end of No Way Home.
- That snow is then on the ground during Hawkeye, which takes place the week of Christmas.
- I place Ms Marvel where I do because during a couple of the credit sequences they show the Statue of Liberty prior to its redesign with the Captain America shield that was shown in No Way Home and mentioned in Hawkeye.
- There are autumn leaves on the ground in her first episode and her guidance counselor only has data for "Q1" on his computer. Also the posters in the halls are all asking students to join school clubs and campaigning for school government. All of this points to early in the school year.
- Eternals seems to also take place in the autumn based on the foliage and pumpkin in Phastos' suburban yard. Which autumn is the question though. It continues to bother me that nobody in any of the other shows/movies has mentioned the huge Celestial statue sticking out of the ocean.
***Mild Spoilers for Thor Love & Thunder***
Based on Thor's VERY specific reporting of how long it had been since he'd seen Jane, all we need is a better idea of when one of those two events happened and we'll know when the other happened.
Thor's personal story at the beginning of Love & thunder feels like it needs a little room to breathe, so I'm hoping it belongs in Spring of 2025. Maybe that matches with the pretty temperate weather we see in Norway? I'm not sure.
If so, that would place their previous parting in something like October of 2016.
If the last time he saw her in person was prior to or immediately after Age of Ultron in 2015, that would drag Love & Thunder into 2024, which makes less sense story-wise to me but is certainly possible.
Now it's the second Project that is wrong in the MCU Timeline Video 😅
I’m getting worried here 😅
Spiderman No Way Home = Halloween = October to Nov
Doctor Strange MOM = Strange talking about Spiderman = November
Spiderman No Way Home end scene = Spiderman swinging past a snowy New York = December
Yup! I’d actually say that NWH’s main events are after Halloween!
@@Geekritique you mean people in America keep their Halloween decorations way after its over?
Halloween is October 31st, so early November isn’t what I’d consider way after.
to be fair, disney+'s timeline has been a mess ever since shows like the defenders saga haven't been included despite those shows acknowledging MCU events. Good video as always!
It’s understandable that they wouldn’t put those shows honestly. Not because they’re not canon, but because that opens up a whole can of worms for them cause then they’d have to throw in all the other shows. MCU timeline would get crowded for normies.
I think is because they are not in Disney + just like ,,The Incredible Hulk" and The Watts Spider-Man trilogy.
Great video! There's a lot of evidence pointing to it being fall, however I do believe this is going to be retconned. We know now that America Chavez was intended to be in No Way Home meaning the film was 100% meant to be the fall. However thanks to covid the film released after it and they decided to remove her and have the film take place after the No Way Home. This explains why the trees and setting points to a fall setting but all articles (as well as reliable leakers from before the film hit theaters if that counts) said 2 month-ish after as they had to move the film. Unfortunately I think this is one of those times we have to go off the interviews 2 month timeframe but that's just me
I couldn’t find any interviews suggesting 2 months. 🤷🏻♂️
@@Geekritique sorry my bad, I meant articles not interviews but yeah. Every article that mentions timeline placement and every leak that came for the film also said 2 months after. I think wholeheartedly the film was meant to take place in fall 2024 like it was also meant to take place before No Way Home. But since covid fucked it up and it was moved to after No Way Home I do believe was moved to a couple months after now and that's where it'll happen. Like the trees being autumn based is good evidence but they are also largely still green which points to an early autumn placement not a late November placement. I think thanks to covid the films setting and background and the films placement in the timeline just aren't going to line up nicely.
I catch your drift, good points.
@@Geekritique thank you. Largely I follow your timeline, you've done amazing work and your Moon Knight catch was absolutely outstanding. But this one I think is just a case of covid being a bitch
I hear that.
Not saying you’re wrong because I love your timelines but at the end of No Way Home it’s snowing and it’s snowing in Hawkeye too meaning it’s winter right? I don’t understand how Multiverse of Madness takes place in between them if it’s in Autumn
It’s snowing at the end of No Way Home, yes. But there’s a time jump between the main events of the movie and the ending. Multiverse of Madness occurs in that gap.
I wonder if the original Phase 4 release schedule plays into any of the timings of the films. Y’know, the pre-covid release schedule.
I believe it has definitely muddied the waters, tremendously.
8:55 “I forgive you…” - Peter Parker, Spider-Man 3
,,You want forgiveness? Get religion." - Peter Parker, Spider-Man 3
😂 now I’m upset I didn’t use that line.
So the movie took place a week after No Way Home or something? Before Spider-man last new suite?
Or something, yes.
Sorry but that spring foliage was her illusion.
Correct. We go in depth into what that means.
Dakota, I don't think Marvel cares anymore. This is why I miss AoS. Over it's seven seasons it formed a solid backbone to phases two and three of the MCU. You knew where you were back then. Now it's all just a jumbled mess of contradictions and suppositions.
I think they do care. But they care for different things. That’s why we’re left to pick up the scraps. Kinda like AoS used to do. 🤷🏻♂️
do you know where thor love and thunder takes place on the timeline?
In about 3 hours we’ll have a new video out explaining it.
It's entirely possible that Wanda was in a different country, one that was in Spring.
Very true.
Can you do a another timeline video with Ms Marvel on it?
I’m planning on it!
What if her Orchard was just in a different part of the world? Did they specifcy where it was?
That’s possible. But there’s nothing pointing to her being in the Southern Hemisphere.
Man 2024 was wild
Lots of stuff went down.
Will there be a video about where Thor Love And Thunder takes place in the MCU timeline?
Yep! Working on it.
@@Geekritique awesome can’t wait
What if the broken watch from Christine was dusted and Strange never adjusted the time after his return?
It still appears to be incorrect, as it’s all out of order, but that’s an interesting idea!
What about Helstrom in your Timeline?
What’s that got to do with MoM??
*Shows Gargantos eye being popped out again*
NO NOT AGAIN
😂 sorry amigo
I know this question is Irrelevant, But I have to ask...
Since Ms. Marvel is out on Disney+ Now, Do you believe that the series should be set somewhere before or after Moon Knight?
After. If you’re interested, I just made a video on Moon Knight. I’ll make one on Ms. Marvel soon. czcams.com/video/sddB3NgjY0c/video.html
@@Geekritique So, what I assume is...Ms. Marvel is the NEW title that's set in 2025?
Pretty much
@@Geekritique And since Episode 2 referenced Thor, I can assume that this is set after Thor: Love and Thunder.
Makes sense to me
It makes sense to Robert!
@@Geekritique Ms Marvel Take Place video after series is over?
Yeah, gonna go through all footage before breaking it down completely.
Or…Doctor Strange In The Multiverse Of Madness could take place in January or February of 2025. I think this because this winter that just passed in real life, the coldest months were January and especially February and I remember seeing the trees with orange and red leaves. And since it’s not 2025 in real life yet, Marvel Studios had to go with this environment and temperature change for the movie so it will make sense. Idk if I’m right or wrong, but I’m gonna stick with my opinion and say that Doctor Strange In The Multiverse Of Madness takes place after Haweye and before Ms. Marvel
If it works for you it works for you. 🤷🏻♂️ But I’ve never seen that stage of foliage that late into Winter in NY. November, where I’ve placed it here, is pushing it.
Disney did not make a mistake. The Events of No Way Home take place right towards the end April into May during the Spring time because acceptance, rejection and waitlist letters may start arriving as early as February or March. But in some extreme cases, letters may not arrive until the end of April. Because of the events with Peter, Colleges withheld the sending out of letters in order to change their decision.
Also Peter had to take his GED either during the summer or at least after the first semester in order for his score to be evaluated. Plus, in actuality... Both Spider-Man: NWH AND Dr. Strange in the MOM had to go under serious reshoots. MOM was supposed to release BEFORE NWH, which would have happened during Spring break, While Peter and everyone were in Italy and America Chavez was also supposed to appear in NWH... But, with the Pandemic, things got changed around, even with "WandaVision" being released BEFORE "Black Widow" and "The Eternals"
No Way Home elapses from July to November, with a short few scenes in the epilogue in December. July being the start of summer break, as it’s just a week after FFH, which is the start of their summer vacation. It runs through the start of the new school year (September) wherein early action letters are sent out to colleges. We know the main events occur in November as MJ’s boss tells her to take down the Halloween decorations.
As for release schedule, yes, MoM was supposed to drop before NWH originally. But both films were rewritten during the start of COVID to avoid any mixup. Eventually both would begin filming late 2020 around the same time.
@@Geekritique Well then Sony/Marvel made a mistake. If the events of NWH had taken place starting in July, there's now way they should've neve been getting ANY acceptance letters from colleges, because those are sent out in Feb-Mar... By the most, early April everyone would be getting them in the mail, as most colleges try to recruit early to beat their competition. Also, NWH takes place a week after their trip from Europe.
@@Geekritique And, even if the event at the Statue of Liberty happened in November, then it would stand to reason that MOM starts the most, a week or two after BECAUSE After the 21 of November is officially the start of the Winter Season, and in New York City, it starts to get pretty cold, and people would be wearing much more than what you were seeing people wear throughout the movie.
@@Geekritique Spider-Man FFH, and NWH make it all screwy.
The scene with the x-rays that show the dates would be wrong. Because if those are indeed the actual dates of the x-rays that shows Stephen's injuries were taken, that would imply that they are further in future than we think. Becauuuuse, Strange already had his powers before Infinity War... Hell, even before the events of Thor Ragnarok. Infinity War takes places in 2018. 5 years pass into 2023, when Scott returns from the Quantum Realm. Strange was gone during those 5 years... So, there's no way that date is accurate if he was still dusted in 2021. I believe the events from NWH is what actually adds to the confusion. Everything that happens in THAT movie happen within the beginning of spring. The end of NWH that shows Peter swinging through the snow is definitely in December because he swings pass the tree 🌲 in Rockefeller Center which is still intact because it gets destroyed during the last episode of Hawkeye.
So, by your account based on what looks like Autumn setting, MOM definitely takes place before Hawkeye and Moon Knight.
The date is most likely when they filmed the scene or edited the vfx. The x-ray was taken by Christine that day, so it has nothing to do with being ahead or behind, it’s just a poor onscreen date.
@@Geekritique Well, Sam Raimi did confess that he didn't watch WondaVision, and only skimmed through some parts, which created some continuity displacement with Wonda's character in MOM. It would also mean he didn't really watch NWH either or any other Marvel movie for that matter cause, he would know, if Marvel is trying to keep the timeline dates as accurate to the real world up to the point of infinity War, he would've caught that... Someone at the VFX department would've caught that.
I just don’t think he was paying attention.
Well, a broken clock is right twice a day...
Bound to get something right after all 😂
But if it’s snowing all the time during No Way Home could Multiverse of Madness be taking place in August 2025
It only snows in the very last scene. So MoM happens before that scene.
@@Geekritique oh yeah wait I misremembered why the snow was in the Sanctum during the beginning of the movie
That’s true, there’s snow in the Sanctum as well.
Actually, some of it occurs in 2021, as the 838 universe is still in 2021.
There’s no evidence that Chavez is time traveling in the MCU, and on top of the fact that dreamwalking between universes is a one-to-one jump, it would be the same relative time in that universe. Most likely the date found in 838 is a mistake.
@@Geekritique No. It doesn't need to be time travel. It's just that when it is 2024 in 616, it is 2021 in a 838. So 838 is basically running 3 to 4 years behind 616.
That’s an interesting theory.
@@Geekritique Thanks 😃
okay, I guess D+ got it right
A broken clock is right twice a day.
For me I don,t belive the disney plus time this has to take place after hawkeye
Why do you think so?
@@Geekritique because no way home takes place early December 2024 and there is no winter In movie I think I belive the mcu timeline 7.0 video and because the disney plus timeline has so many mistakes
Only one scene (the scene at the end) in No Way Home takes place in December, and I think most of Multiverse of Madness occurs before that scene. I agree though, the D+ timeline has too many mistakes.
how does spider man no way home take place in November isn,t it December
Only the last scene, when he visits MJ and makes the suit. Several weeks have passed since the main story. The rest falls in line with November.
Now when does Ms Marvel take place?
He's said on twitter that it takes place in September 2025 and that he will do a video soon
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Cool.
That’s tentative. I have to see the final two eps to be sure. But yeah I plan to make a video.
@@Geekritique, yeah that's fair. The last two episodes might have a more concrete date or time of year.
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Also so far, everything we thought was set in 2025 is actually set in 2024 so... I'm wondering same for Ms Marvel.
Also, if you really want to know when MOM takes place, you actually have to go back to FFH.
IN FFH in the early beginning of the movie, when that Whitney Houston tribute for Tony, Steve, Nat and Vision play, Betty starts to talk about the aftermath of the Blip, and in her monologue she explains that 8 months had passed since everyone blipped back. Since that was still in 2023, all you have to do is find out when that happened, then count 8 months forward (Assuming that the trip to Europe happens days after their last day of school in FFH), and you'll get a definitive time frame for both FFH, NWH(since the movie starts a week after their trip) and move forward using NWH as your time frame leading to MOM.
Yes, we’ve already done that. 8 months after their last day of school would place Endgame in October 2023. No Way Home begins a week after FFH, and elapses into the start of their school year, just past Halloween. So November 2024.
But I don't understand. November Isn't Autumn. So how can Multiverse of Madness take place after No Way Home?
In 2024 Autumn begins Sept 22 and runs through Dec 21.
I think it occurs in 202X.
What.
It means sometime in the 2020s years.
20XX = Sometime in the 21st Century
2XXX = Sometime in the 3rd Millennium
XXXX = Date Unknown