Grading the F1 teams vs expectations in 2023 | PODCAST

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  • čas přidán 25. 06. 2024
  • Which F1 teams performed the best in 2023? Ben Anderson and Scott Mitchell-Malm join Edd Straw (with bonus contributions from Mark Hughes!) to cast a critical eye over the 10 teams on the 2023 grid and hand out some grades for their performances relative to expectations. The question is, who will be top of the class and who will score that dreaded low grade?
    NOTE: Barring any breaking news, this will be our final podcast of 2023 - but don't fear, we'll be back with your F1 fix on January 1! Thank you to all of our listeners for joining us this year - we hope you'll join us again in 2024!
    00:00 Intro
    02:05 - Haas
    07:48 - Alfa Romeo
    14:01 - AlphaTauri
    19:44 - Williams
    28:30 - Alpine
    34:12 - Aston Martin
    38:44 - McLaren
    47:30 - Ferrari
    56:50 - Mercedes
    65:05 - Red Bull
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Komentáře • 41

  • @thebestfeelingissuccess5424
    @thebestfeelingissuccess5424 Před 6 měsíci +34

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      @SilverScarletSpider Před 6 měsíci +1

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    • @MoGumbo_
      @MoGumbo_ Před 6 měsíci +4

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    • @urbanvandals
      @urbanvandals Před 6 měsíci +1

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    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 Před 6 měsíci

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    • @juanfervalencia
      @juanfervalencia Před 6 měsíci

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  • @tiagoferreira5368
    @tiagoferreira5368 Před 6 měsíci +7

    We must praise the slower teams.
    The pace difference betwen the faster and slower team is decreasing each year.

    • @DeathBlocks
      @DeathBlocks Před 6 měsíci

      And yet you still often see comments about how the cost cap isn't working to bring the field closer together and its still just the same as it was.

  • @sheldoniusRex
    @sheldoniusRex Před 6 měsíci +11

    Gene Haas needs to sell his F1 team. He isn't using it.

    • @quigglyz
      @quigglyz Před 6 měsíci +1

      And fire Gunther

  • @Allblue1
    @Allblue1 Před 6 měsíci +3

    I say aston martin purely becuase mclaren expected the upgrades to significantly improve the car in Austria. Aston where not expected to be p2 and p3's in races. Mclaren only beat aston because of stroll.

  • @xyz1415
    @xyz1415 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Franz Tost. You will be missed

  • @frederickgent1918
    @frederickgent1918 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I am more than sure that between Yuki Sunoda and Daniel Ricciardo with a lot of consistency thay will be up the grid next year

  • @alexpeak16
    @alexpeak16 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I think Mercedes have stagnated and don’t look like they’re going anywhere fast; started and ended the year in pretty much the same way. This might be a lengthy lull period like RBR had between 2014-21, Benetton/Renault from 1996-2005 and Ferrari’s ongoing plight. Merc just seems rudderless in how to understand these cars.

  • @urbanstrencan
    @urbanstrencan Před 6 měsíci +5

    Thanks for making the job shorter by listening to your podcasts :)

  • @MsZeeZed
    @MsZeeZed Před 6 měsíci

    Good to know that despite getting a D here and Alpine free-falling in the championships, Bruno Famin rates his performance as better than the guys he sacked. Good Job Renault 😹

  • @suhaasnadulamattam4793
    @suhaasnadulamattam4793 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I like how u did not mention Redbull grading in this podcast 😂

  • @hoverpilder1905
    @hoverpilder1905 Před 6 měsíci +4

    I dont think you should dismiss Checo's 2 wins this year that easily. That's two more than Charles Lecelrc or George Russell, or Lulu for that matter

    • @karthikpenumetch9300
      @karthikpenumetch9300 Před 6 měsíci +3

      can you remind me how many did his teammate win again in the same car.

    • @hoverpilder1905
      @hoverpilder1905 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @karthikpenumetch9300 I'm not discounting the 105 wins Max had this season. Just saying his 2 wins was 2 more than Charles, Princess George and Lulu

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Yeah, because the last 3 had a Red Bull and all... Any of them would easily beat Perez in the same car.

    • @hoverpilder1905
      @hoverpilder1905 Před 6 měsíci

      @soundscape26 doubtful. With Max on the other side of the garage? Lots of meltdowns happening with all 3. If you take Max out of the equation. A straight up fight, I think Checo will hold his own

    • @_aibohphobia_
      @_aibohphobia_ Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@hoverpilder1905 your absolutely dreaming mate

  • @henkormel5610
    @henkormel5610 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Mercedes gets hyped up again. Toto Wolff was worse in 2021 than he was in 2016. Mercedes was very good when the PU advantage was there. When that advantage was gone they were comparible to Red Bull.

  • @PenryMMJ
    @PenryMMJ Před 6 měsíci

    Nice review, but I have to make a pedantic objection to the score given to Red Bull. In terms of absolute performance, yes it's undeniably an A+, they dominated the championship.
    But the scores are supposed to reflect performance against expectations, not absolute performance. Red Bull were expected to dominate this year. They achieved it. They did not perform better than expected (that would be impossible, you can't finish higher than first). So the score has to be a B, expectations were met in full but not exceeded.

    • @sergioferrero46
      @sergioferrero46 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Mate, they were supposed to dominate, but they've completed literally the best, most dominant season ever in F1. How can that not be a A+??? 😂😂😂

    • @PenryMMJ
      @PenryMMJ Před 6 měsíci

      @@sergioferrero46 in absolute performance it is A+. But they said their scoring system was performance compared to expectations, with A meaning the team exceeded expectations. They didn't exceed expectations, they matched them, it can only be a B

    • @henkormel5610
      @henkormel5610 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Pre season 2023 Mercedes and Ferrari were hyped up again so the expectations where not Red Bull dominating the season. Red Bull didn't even dominate but Verstappen did. He on his own won the WCC and Pérez only just held on to P2 in the WDC.

    • @sergioferrero46
      @sergioferrero46 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@PenryMMJ I know, but still, RB wasn't expected to win 21 out of 22 races, Max wasn't expected to beat that many records. Technically, they exceeded expectations

    • @09csr
      @09csr Před 6 měsíci

      You can literally not do more than dominate, so it's at the very least an A.

  • @trevAce350
    @trevAce350 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I know Mercedes did not have a great season and the car had a lot of problems but you talk a if they fell to a back run team they still learned alot form this season and the know most of a problems with the car

  • @F1Guy-Guy
    @F1Guy-Guy Před 5 měsíci

    Everyone all knows its that Hamiltons 8th Title if he gets a sniff of the right car from Mercedes as he is clearly the better driver than anyone and to make matters worse hes bloody black

  • @cfeanubis547
    @cfeanubis547 Před 6 měsíci

    hoping lewis can win 1-2 championships

    • @demo7790
      @demo7790 Před 6 měsíci

      It's hard, he lost that rythmn last two seasons.

    • @henkormel5610
      @henkormel5610 Před 6 měsíci

      In witch team Lewis would stand a chance against Max in the Red Bull?