2017 Nissan Titan vs Frontier: Midsize vs Half-Ton 0-60 MPH Review, Which Truck is Best for You?
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Frontier is the most under-rated truck in the segment. It's got the lowest crew cab 4x4 pricing, is the most dependable because it's been on the market for ages, has the most torque you can get in a gas engine in the segment, and it still looks like a truck.
And the only mid size truck to offer a full set of instrumentation. A feature that has been eroded away.
creeping down a forest or logging trail, I'll take the little truck.
OFFRD I have a tacoma but agree the frontier is definitely underrated!
Ford is the best
Custard Pays Madden 2 can you support that statement
I had a 2005 Frontier. Never let me down. Had it 12 years.
did you change your flywheel? i heard that that's the frontiers problem,I change mine,I own one its a 2009 model and still going strong....
auto or stick ? werent those notorious for the radiator > transmission problem ?
Have a 93 hardbody since new and still going strong.
I have a 2004 the radiator is giving me problems but that’s about all
I've said it before and I'll say it again, my Froniter was the best truck I ever owned...
The 0-60 on that one is really slow. My frontier does it in the low 7's
I have a 2014 Frontier. After about 2 years, it's still good as new... no weird noises, no issues, etc... but the turning radius is still a nightmare.
I had a 2010 Chevy Colorado and the turning radius was shit too
That is always bad with a 4x4 truck in my experience.
I know this comment is three years old but I just purchased a 2019 crew cab frontier and the turning radius is actually not bad at all. My mom has a 2019 Chevy Equinox and the turning radius on that is the most horrendous thing i've experienced
That 5.6 sounds awesome
the old v6 sounds better then the new turbo raptors lol
My father has an 06 manual frontier with 200k on it. Has only ever replaced oil and just replaced the alternator last month. He daily drivers it to work and hunts with it beating the shit out of it. Best practical truck money can buy
For me mid size is where I like. I love the little trucks that are good to park anywhere and go anywhere. The tire tracks on the hood are alitte much. I will always go for small trucks over larger trucks any day.
that nissan titan V8 sounds AWESOME
You guys forgot to mention that the Titan has the best warranty of all trucks
guy proulx And from what I've seen, that's a good thing because you'll need it. Lots of problems with the diesel and the transmission in the gas trucks.
06RedfireGT They are brand new trucks, they'll work out the bugs, the old Nissan trucks were pretty reliable, my ex boss had over 300k miles on his Titan and it still drove like brand new just like a Toyota would
The issue with the transmission was the fault of the radiator. The transmissions themselves aren't bad.
Jimmy John I'm sure the big 2 and Fiat have had more issues than the previous gen Titan, my ex boss Titan had over 300k miles on it and still drove like a brand new truck, there's a reason you will find Nissan and Toyota trucks in the most remote inhospitable and harshest environments on this planet and it's called reliability
guy proulx - Exactly! A warranty is only good if the company fixes the problems. This half French half Japanese company fooled me but i guarantee the rest of my life will be spent making sure others dont buy these trucks cause they are total shit trucks. I couldn't even do a burn out in the truck thats how much it lacks power... Buy a Ford or Toyota
I really don't get the crazyness concerning the Titan looking like an F150. It just doesn't. The F150 has a totally different body language. In my opinion, there are more similarities between an F150 and a RAM than between these two. The Titan looks like an offspring of the Frontier/older Titan, it bears all the typical nissan design aspects. So why this obession? It's not that Ford has the right to be "original". They didn't invent the car and they didn't invent the truck. The germans did. Why is everything with 4 wheels and a bed accused to look "like an F150"?
Amen!
Another great review. I am 100% nissan biased being a Titan owner. My only gripe being i wish you would review more base and mud level trucks. We cant all afford the top of the line models.
it may look like an f150 but its more reliable
Nathan Marshall but GM is doing it in 2018 and people haven't flipped shit... So there is nothing wrong with it while GM was exposed from the scam ads
Lol, one of those Titans burned to the ground a couple weeks ago on a test drive here.
@Nathan Marshall someone doesnt understand crumble zones
I test drove a 2018 titan pro 4x and it went 10 minutes before the trans felt like it was slipping and I could smell something burning so I pulled over and saw a huge puddle of trans fluid on the ground. We ended up calling the salesman and they came to pick us up. Needless to say I bought an f150 5.0 3:73 gears. It pulls hard and runs well at 98k but damn has alot of shit been replaced under warranty. Front and rear diff rebuilds with new gears in the rear diff. New driveshaft. Multifunction switch. Water pump on the engine. RH exhaust manifold and gasket and my rear E locker makes a god awful banging sound when engaged but the dealer says it's normal? Lol
One day i hope to own the glorious Pro-4X Frontier! Its my dream V6 truck. I have a 98 Pathfinder now and i love the hell out of it. Nissan rules!
It's pretty amazing that the Titan, while being so much larger and capable, gets better mileage than the Frontier, and is so much faster too! Under 8 sec 0-6 even at sea level is pretty impressive for such a large vehicle. I really like the interior of the big truck, though I agree on the styling. A new nose and the removal of the pep boys fender vents would really help it out. And man, that thing sounds good!
As far as the little truck, while old, the VQ is my favorite part of that truck. I also really like the styling, but that interior! Buying one of those (or a late model Exterra) is like buying a brand new 2005 truck. And that gas mileage.... it really goes to show why so many people just go fullsize. Unless one specifically needs a small size, the best value is in the big trucks.
Just got my 2019 V6 crew cab 2wd, I’ve done some upgrade 0-60 under 7sec...magnaflow muffler only the muffler, nismo r tune, and performance chip, added some running boards added about 27lbs. of weight but I absolutely love it
I have a 2012 Frontier 4x4 and let me tell you I have yet to get it stuck off-roading, I'm not into the sport of off-roading but I have done nearly every major trail in Arizona just exploring the state, its been in heavy heavy mud and its like it floats on sand and mud. As of now I don't feel the need just yet to get lockers or fixed, I have yet to run into a issue. keep in mind I don't go looking for problems but if I do run into a problem going from point A to point B I've tackled it every time.
Oh and I have BF KO2's on them those are great tires.
The Frontier is very used by the Feds here in Brazil, once an officer even took down a small plane taking off with smuggled electronics on the dirty improvised airport, but it's just too small for a family to travel comfortably
Douglas Aranda don't buy trucks for family, trucks should be for working hard and hauling payloads.
Douglas Aranda don't buy trucks for family, trucks should be for working hard and hauling payloads.
Is your family fat
What if you swapped the Titan drive train into the Frontier?? Better mileage, and even faster and capable, while retaining the maneuverability.
My Titan was in the shop and received the frontier for a rental, it was really fun to drive!
You should do a chevy silverado and a colorado mashup.
Its That1Guy that would be cool
Why did Nissan make the Extended Cab unavailable with a manual trans? I tried to build a Pro-4x extended cab and I cannot put a 6spd in it! Dumb. Decent video guys.
The frontier looks just like my 2014 Xterra..Love it!
The Frontier is the best value, most off road capable small truck you can buy. The powertrain has proven reliable. I paid 30 grand for my 2016 Pro4x extended cab brand new. Colorado, Canyon and Tacoma are at least 5 to 10 grand more. Why would you pay nearly 40 grand for a small truck ? At that price you can get a full size truck.
For 30,000 I can get a half ton that has less than 40,000 miles on it. Small trucks just cost way to much money these days. I have no use for a small truck. Especially one that gets full size truck fuel mileage.
Just bought a 2020 frontier i love it!!
Hi, I watched one youtube video, my friend owns a truck, therefore not only am I an expert on quality, longevity and aesthetics, I'm also self vindicated. My opinions are basically facts on steroids. God help you all if watch more than one video and personally test drive a new truck. If you didn't catch the sarcasm in this post, please wire brush your eyeballs. These videos are exactly what these guys say they are, news, views and real world reviews. Have a great day!!
main reason to get a Frontier over a Titan? can get a slightly used SV 16 model for low 20k
James Buschell I'm close to buying a new King cab sv 4×4 for $26000
guy letourneau nice, hope you enjoy it, if I needed a truck I would be looking at one
guy letourneau look at a used tacoma as well 2014 model
I bought a Titan for under 20,000 and it only had 38,000 miles on it. You just have to look.
tfl do a tundra vs tacoma comparison.
slammedlyfe Same here. was just thinking about that.
Marlon Johnson yeah it's an obvious pick between these 2 trucks but the number 1 mid size truck vs it's big brother is a toss up for me.
slammedlyfe tacoma is a small mid size lol and on can say the tundra is larger than a half ton ...
Sartaj Aujla small compared to what? a full size?
slammedlyfe chevy Colorado
I can't wait to see the redesigned Frontier.
I have a Frontier Desert Runner, and I love it! Course still anticipating the third generation... With all this suspense it better be A-freaken-mazing!!!!!
Nissan Frontier is for reliability
I agree with the Titan styling. for the longest time I couldn't figure out why the Titan's look annoyed me so much until I saw one in traffic next to an F150.
Still seems to be a great truck though and definitely on my short list.
I LOVE how this truck has the old school steering column shifter but after seeing some CZcams videos on how this truck performs in cold weather climates coupled with the fact they don't make a cold weather package I wouldn't buy the Titan just yet until they fix that. I do agree thought the Frontier needs a refresh at least the interior because outside it looks good still but at least do the steering wheel, I thought it looked horrible on the 350Z and I STILL think it looks terrible in the Frontier.
You are making good videos. I like you guys, keep up the good job 👍🏼
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Nice video! I'm planning to upgrade to a Titan from a 2007 Tacoma single cab. Frontier was on my radar but it's too old. Biggest thing I'm concerned about is MPG/size. However I live in a small town so size shouldn't be much of an issue.
Roman, that soft opening tailgate is not new, unless you believe 2007 is new. That tailgate the little Nissan has is just historic...
I'd like to see the Frontier with the manual trans vs the Tacoma with a manual trans.
I got one
Yes 6speed
I know the frontier had been around for about 10 years, but it has heated seats, satellite navigation, rear back up camera, rear parking sensors and more, whats so old about that
I got the frontier 4wd 6 speed Manual in 2015 I love the truck but the fuel economy is mediocre at best
Southern Cowboy i added a rollup bed cover, went from 21hwy to 24+ !!! for a hundred and thirty three buck item off ebay, I was thoroughly impressed
just a thought
For the eneormous price difference between the 2, you can purchase a lot of fuel
What can you tell me about the tacomas new engine that Atkinson cycle'' thing i read that it's basically a bigger Prius engine made for fuel economy but lacks hp and torque, well that doesn't make a-lot of sense on a truck that;s why i went with the frontier. On the books it's got a few more HP while the frontier has more torque what kind of engine is that Atkinson cycle crap ? Why is it good to go into their best selling truck ? I think that was a big mistake but i have been wrong before what do you all think ?
Southern Cowboy you have to look where they make those numbers too. peak power doesnt mean much. its about them curves
Agreed that was stupid of toyota but hey i got a buddy of mine that has one of those new ones and he thinks it;s such a bad ass truck because of all the ''tech features'' haha
I would take a Tundra any day.
And whats with knocking a vehicle that uses a key for the ignition. I think the push button start is silly and just something else expensive to break.
I guess you are the type who doesn't have power windows or locks, because its just "something else" that will break?
CamperMike well said I'm sick of the bullshit they put in trucks these days ! ?
Comparing a simple electric motor that's reatively simple to replace to an encrypted transponder that's complicated and expensive to fix (or reprogram if you lose your key).
Actually the Tundra is bottom rung now
and the push button start is a lot less likely to break compared to a key start.ignition
It depend on the system.And at least in my experience, Nissan key starters are shite. Even if they don't break on you, they'll still piss you off.
Just bought a 2017 Nissan Titan. Got it home and noticed the stamped
channels on the roof of the cab, are seriously crinkled/dented. Nissan
said this is the way they were designed and offered no refund/ fix.
Other vehicles have a molding/weather striping. Look very carefully
before you buy. Nissan will do nothing for you after you buy the truck.
I would love to own a Titan to replace my older Frontier especially since the gas mileage is slightly better but the fact that it wont fit in the garage is a deal killer for me.
How come y'all always do these kinds of tests with nissans and toyotas but I wanna see the new f-150 vs the new Silverado man! A classic!
Great episode
Seems the Titan V8's in the 1st Gen and 2nd Gen are pretty strong V8's definitely one of the best sounding 😎
My 09 Titan has the tailgate that goes down nice and easy, it's not new at all. I'll always stick with Nissan I bought it new with 10 miles on it and had no issues out of it at all for the time I've had it I am not getting rid of it anytime soon.
take them both off road and see which does better!
yadvinder gakhal frontier, any day
Frontier easy.... Mid sized OEM trucks almost always do a little better off road due to the weight difference.
When a midsize can get 30 hwy and be under 20k for a base I might be interested, until then it is too wasteful and un-economical for me.
The differences are minimal between these trucks. I would say it really comes down to looks, price and if you want to tow something actually heavy.
Can’t wait to pick up a new frontier in the next year or so.... hopefully they are still affordable
i want to see that titan go up against the tundra...
hmglor me too!
That Titan goes up against the Tundra in plenty of other videos.
The steering takes a bit of effort in the Pro 4x I found in my old 2014, I traded it in for a 2016 F150 3.5L Ecoboost and find the steering much more lighter and responsive. The back seat is also quite upright in my SuperCrew, I think most trucks are like that? The mpg sucked in the Pro 4x with 16mpg average, probably would still have it if it wasn't for the mpg.
blade H12 old 2014 lol, you should have kept the Nissan, much more reliable truck than Ford
they really both sound good
its hard to justify a new Frontier, but used they are a GREAT value. the only real problem with them is the interior and mileage, other than that, its still a great choice.
Alright, I've always been confused. Nissan is a Japanese brand, but the trucks are made here in the US.. So does that make them American trucks or what?? Are the designs, parts, power train ext. A US design/made or Japanese? OR is everything done in house in the US?? With the consent of Nissan of Japan?
They are designed and built in America.
@@tshearn624 they are not designed in the US except for the Titan
The Titan was the one I was referring too. I should have been more clear.
It is a F-150 basically. And the warrior concept is basically a Raptor.
$20 fixes that tail gate issue on the Frontier. Love mine!
Aj Maxey how did you do it?
My one problem with modern trucks and cars for that matter too, is that they all try to be the most aggressive and the most attention grabbing car/truck yet, but after some point they all look…
Bland, and Ugly, but the frontier was made in the early 2000s, when cars/trucks just tried to be good cars/trucks.
How can you compare? They're in different classes, apples and oranges.
People I know who own Titans (or Armadas) with this motor all say it's extremely thirsty. 12-13 mpg averages. Most of them are not doing long highway distances, either. So what did they change for 2017?
Since it wasn't covered on this video, I watched the Ike Gauntlet test, and there you described that they did a lot of work upgrading this motor. Now I'll have to wait to see how it does in your 100 mpg loop.
I owned both frontier was solid the titan underbuilt stay away from it.
I love my Titan. It is 5 years old and I have had zero issues.
The Frontier would be vastly better offroad though due to it's size.
TacticalArtist size, tires, suspension, lockers, approach, departure, break over etc etc. The Frontier Pro4x is a proper off road truck. That Titan is a shopping cart.
Titan vs. Tundra perhaps..?
i love that nisan still keeps the frontier the same because it hasent change and its better that the tacoma and ither mid size truck that mekes it afortable and cool
i want to see a vs between izuzu dmax and toyota hilux
How can you compare to pick-ups that are $20,000 apart?!! I'm getting the sense from some of the past videos you have posted are just to post video vs supplying constructive content.
Tully3674 Did you watch the video? They said you can get into a Titan for the cost of the Frontier in the video. The example they had was a loaded Titan. They can only show what the company sends out of the press fleet and they never had the lower trims in the press fleets
I'd rather have a fully loaded mid-size than a stripped out full-size any day of the week.
I'd rather have a fully loaded mid-size than a stripped out full-size any day of the week.
@@OSUCherokee1 not me. Give me a bare bones full size over a fully loaded midsize. I have zero use for a midsize truck. Especially a midsize truck that drinks gas as bad as a full size truck.
They NEED to redesign the Frontier. Nissan is a company that procrastinates in redesigning their trucks, specifically. They waited a decade to redesign the Titan
Why all the need to redesign. One of the main reasons I cant stand GM and Ford. They always want to change the look of their trucks. If you have something that works and looks good leave it alone. No need for an all new look every 3-5 years.
@@tshearn624 agreed. I am considering a Frontier because for some reason truck mfg's feel the need to make them taller and taller. Last I checked, the average person was NOT getting any taller. The Colorado is just disgusting. The new Ranger ? Another undersized engine being asked to do more than it can by putting a turbo on it. No thanks. I'll take the Frontier.
The frontier looks near identical to the Nissan nivara that's been on sale (with a diesel too) for probably almost 13/14 years.
I drive a 08 titan pro I don't haul with it its just a daliy driver. The 5.6 have to agree is the best V8. But have been thinking of down sizing to the Frontier pro just have not made that jump yet. but if nissan does the V8 in the frontier I would be all over that
Hay guys! Do you know when the Titan dually will be accepted in the US?
If you only need 2WD, the frontier is significantly cheaper then the titan.
I love the frontier's design. The titan is too ford like, whereas the old titan had a distinctive look to it.
The frontier is also tough as nails, reliable, easy to find parts for, ece. Its just a little work truck, and that is all it needs to be. If I were nissan, I would update the drivetrain and make the interior softer, and thats about it. It's a great design, and will be sad to see it go.
BTW, a new frontier, the sand runner edition, runs about 20k here. Blows the baseline opponents out of the water in every way.
Can you do a video on the 2017 Tacoma vs 2017 Tundra?
This is great fluff, filler, distraction. I know the news in the truck world can be slow at times. But this? I feel abused and used now that I clicked and watched. Sigh...a once good CZcams channel gone the way of the Enquirer... I will admit, the enthusiasm on display by the two of you was exceptional.
Ford f150 coyote 5.0 or the new Nissan 5.6?
+Jeremy Wood That's a tough choice! Andre says: coyote. Nathan says 5.6.
Definitely the F150. The 5.0/6R80 transmission combo has been out since 2011 and have proven to be very reliable.
Jimmy John does the 5.0 get better economy?
Why don't you guys have the new navara/frontier? I think everywhere else in the world has it.
Is it going to be manufactured in the U.S.? Maybe that is why we don't have it. It would probably be cost prohibitive to have it manufactured somewhere else and shipped here.
i think i would consider the frontier more than the taco (because the frontier offers manual at no extra cost). in terms of a full size truck, i would rather spend my money on a dodge ram 3500 laramie edition
I'd like to see a manual in the full size titan
when are you guys getting the np300 2.3ltr twin turbo diesel?
If Frontier had the front end of the Titan with the big bold front I would want that truck if it was crew cab and 6ft bed
The titan is much bigger, however I don't believe you would notice with the atrocious turning radius in the frontier. Hated the old look of the titan, starting to come around as a real competitor now.
can the nissan xd be used to plow snow?
There's absolutely nothing wrong with the VQ40DE motor. Great reliability, power and torque, plus it'll last forever. Who cares if it's a little thirsty...ok a lot thirsty. I buy trucks to do truck stuff. Not because I care about saving dinosaurs.
How about a truck review based on lowest price. All the models have to be within $1500 of each other? No v6 vs v8...
if you swapped motors and trans in big green it will run circles around every truck on this channel and cost a quarter the amount old school Chevy is hard to beat period
Frontier... maneuverable? I haven't driven the new titan (but plan too) but the frontier turning radius is HORRID! I own a fully loaded 2016 Pro 4x and am thinking about trading in on a 2017 Titan Platinum. I also hate the seats in the Frontier. After an hour my back kills me.
The Frontier (called Navara in the rest of the world) is an old design, the new Navara/ Frontier has already been shown at a few shows and is due out before the end of this year. Surprisingly mercedes new X-class is based on the new Frontier/Navara and so is the new renault alaskan all the same car aside from a front end and interior.
Matthew Winstanley new navara has been out in australia for a year or more. they are everywhere. they come with a great 2.3L diesel, your economy figures are a joke.
geepuller1 I have nothing to do with their economy figures, as per the release of the new frontier/navara I was referring to the US market.
A lot of it has to do with vehicle exhaust emissions and stuff like that. The alcohol they are thinning our gasoline out with lowers the MPG capability of any gas vehicle. Same with all of the emission controls required on Diesel vehicles. It just kills the fuel mileage. Also I imagine that they will continue to sell the older model until they can get parts supply ramped up and all of their plants retooled for the newer model.
The frontier may be old but I'll bet it will out last any of those new titans lol.
The Frontier gets my vote.
do a mitsubishi l200 2005 video
Why on earth is the Frontier almost $38k when it hasn't been updated in over a decade (and wont for who knows how long)? All the R&D money has been recouped for years now. Why do they keep raising the price of it? For the same money you can get a much more capable and efficient Colorado now. If they priced this thing at like $32k, they probably would still turn a profit and their sales would go up drastically.
their talking msrp, go to to a nissan dealership you can easily get it for the 32k range
I had a 2009 Nissan Titan I beat Rams Hemi, New GMC Sierra, Chevey Silverados , Toyota Tundras And Ford f150 at the light best trucks hands down...
Hi Nathan, Roman, nice review. The Frontier is called Nevada in Europe and has been completely redesigned a couple of months ago. Interior is now much alike the Rogue Sport.... You don't see them a lot over here as the CO2 tax is huge for these cars. The Frontier including CO2 tax is well above 85,000 US$. The Titan is not sold here, as it would definitely pass the 100,000 mark.....
+makker008 thanks for the comment and the additional info!
makker008 It's Navara not Nevada, isn't it?
yes, stupid auto correct got me there....😀
excuse my ignorance but what is the CO2 tax or why is that final amount huge?
Carlos Santos Its governments way to control peoples automobiles
They live in the wrong area of the country to do speed testing. Most people don't live a mile high above sea level.
Need I remind the makers this video...
The average American can't afford a $60,000 - $70,000 vehicle. If you CAN, you're doing well. And you financed the shit out of it and after financing with interest you're paying basically double overtime. So, the Frontier is Faaaaar better a deal for the young family. Remember the "Fast & Furious" scene? Buy 'em cheap 'n fix them up.
These guys are making videos to help sell a new product. Not really the best advice.
inexperience drivers would get the Frontier for parking reasons. in the city people be parking dually and 8 bed truck. you just got to grow some skill.
i don't understand how this is a fair comparison.
no matter what I think F more better then the T because we Asian is small lol
Versus the F150 3.5?
when is the V6 for the Titan coming?
Hopefully never. I love my V8. Plus Nissan for some reason cant make a fuel efficient truck. Gas mileage is never on my mind when I buy a truck.
If you want a midsize get the Colorado/Canyon.
Nathan Fulp Tacoma and Frontier are more reliable and have a better resale value to boot
Titan vs titan xd and titan vs tundra