Do You Really Need the Latest and Greatest Expensive Truck? No, You're Wrong! Ep.7
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Everyone: I wish they still made simple, affordable, reliable truck
with enough horsepower and not too much tech... oh and a manual
gearbox is a must.
Nissan: Frontier
Everyone: Eeeew, it’s old and simple and there’s not enough tech.
Nissan: 🤦🏾♂️
I think the issue is that people can't get their fat asses into a midsize truck.
This is why companies rarely listen to customers. They don't actually know what they want. They say one thing and buy another.
Because profit margins are higher when more options are added. Like are sunroofs really a $1000 upgrade? Or soft close tailgate?People accept the upcharge to get stupid options. Dumb people are driving the demand for them.
@@newttella1043 Agreed. If I sold trucks and could score a grand adding a gadget or a cool sticker, I would. I looked at the console and dash on my 19 Pro4X and said "Yep, that's where I plug my phone in". ...Spell edit.
Its old and simple because that thing never changed since 2005 and that's how the style was back then, simple. I have no issue with the truck, but it's a problem when nissan is selling an 05 car for like what? 20 to 25k? In 2020.
If they would sell it for at most 10k then I think that's fine.
I really don’t get why people talk about the Nissan being dated. I know it’s an old design but to me a truck either looks good or bad. It’s not like a truck looks good for 10 years and all of a sudden looks bad after. And for me less tech the better.
Crank windows FTW!
Sure it looks nice but the Nissan has been voted worst trucks for a long time now
@@DivineF0xGoDCite a reputable source... My 2009 Frontier is still going strong.
I agree a good looking vehicle is a good looking vehicle. Personally I hate the new looking cars with all these stickers, edges, plastic and chrome.
@@DivineF0xGoD by who? Some paied article? Owners love them. I used to sell these trucks new. AAA replaced their Rangers with these and the trucks are doing great. Very reliable after they fixed some issues a few years back
2001 Nissan frontier with 485k miles and still going. Dad bought it brand new for 15k dollars.
That's insane milage!
4 trans later I bet
@@alialithe1 nope, just a couple of clutches.
Manual or auto transmission?
@@bradcallahan3546 manual
I have 2017 Frontier Sv 4x4. It’s even simpler then pro 4x, but i do love it. It’s cheap and reliable.
I have a 2013 SV. Great truck,but it's too basic for me
16 SV. 3rd Nissan w/ the 4.0, but all were after the trans cooler fix '10+ with a '10 SE 4x4 then 12 Xterra P4X and back to a '16 Fronti SV 4x4 that I got for $21k w/ 22k miles. Best value on the market!
I think I'm going with the sv. I don't see a difference to justify the price for the pro. I'll put new wheels/tires and suspension myself. Then I think the only thing missing is heated leather seats and diff locker. I've never had heated seats so nothing lost for me.
I also have the same exact year and model. 48k miles and no issues
Is that weird that a 14 year truck still compares to a 2019 modern midsize truck
yes and loses at every point. so actually it doesn’t
@@subieonelove2802 the price difference makes up for it
@@nunyab1zn3ss2 i know. i actually lovw this frontier very much, but there is time to make it newer. and also there is new navara (it is actually frontier but not in America). it came out around 4 years ago. it would be nice if they put their new 3.8 310 hp v6 in new navara and make some off road versions for American market
@@subieonelove2802 It has more torque without D4S and BRAKE DISC 50k for drums is a joke
I'm not paying $50k for a mid-size truck. That said Nissan exterior may be out dated but that is the mid-size for me.
Something can be said for less re-tooling. Less $$$
I don't get everyone saying the truck looks "dated" like it's a bad thing. I think the Tacoma's "modern" styling already looks dreadful and dated. I'll take the handsome look of the Frontier any day.
Dirty Scab we all have our own opinions. If memory serves me I owened one of the Nissan's with this body style when they first came out and now it has to be close to 9 or 10 years old. It would be nice to see the truck updated on the exterior and the interior. With some additional tech also. That's all I'm saying.
It's the quality not the size. I would pay $50k for a 70 series Landcruiser in a heartbeat without thinking twice and I'm pretty sure that would be a midsize
@Jason I don't think you know what a 70 series Landcruiser is if you're trying to compare it to a Frontier. It's like if Toyota made a Super Duty but kept it Tacoma sized with a turbo diesel V8 and two solid axles.
Gotta love the 4 wheel disc brakes and fully boxed frame of the Tacoma...wait, it doesn’t have either! 😞
I'm sure Toyota has a great technical reason for unboxed frame and old drum brakes being superior off road.
Oh wait, they're being cheap, because they can, and they know they could cover it in feces and the fanboys would still fight over it for any price.
And people call the Nissan "old." But on a Toyota, old is "proven" instead of just old.
50k for no power seats and drum brakes, nice.....
That's Toyota for you. The only Toyota I buy is Camry. Cheap plastic, but things go forever. My 2006 has over 274,000 miles on it now. Valve stem seals are blowing a bit of cold start blue smoke, but that's all. And the stupid rear drum brakes.
Taka Yama Yeah. Tacoma’s (even pre owned ones) are overpriced.
But atleast they last forever. You can see some for sale with 300+ thousand miles.
Drum brakes and 50k get out of here
my 03 Taco has the original brake shoes at 300 thousand plus miles...ive replaced the front pads about 6 times...you can keep your rear discs
@@philtripe that's an 03. This is a 2019 50k pickup. Civics dont even have drum brakes anymore. Many will try to justify this. Fact is, it's 50k and has drums.
I love the Frontier’s design. The whole truck may be dated, but it’s like they say... “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.”
I would like to see a redesign though...
in south america and europe, there's a new one, I find it strange that in Usa they did'nt change it
Redesign is coming in 2021
Exactly...no need to fix. Look at the Honda XR650L motorcycle. Absolutely unchanged other than some cosmetics since 1993!
Frontier is definitely the way to go.
Nissan is a great bare bones truck that just works.
I had a frontier pro 4x rental for months while my Tacoma frame was being replaced and it was an awesome truck. I beat the living crap out of that truck and it handled like a dream. I work in the woods daily and I was thoroughly impressed. I can save $13,000 Canadian on a pro 4x over a trd off road (a pro is like 26k plus more than pro 4x) and that seals the deal for me
But you have to sit with your knees in your face and can't adjust the seat.
Roadside Table Better than sitting on the floor and have your ankles go numb.
I have a 2017 TRD OR right now and had a 2011 Frontier SV 4x4. If I could take the 4.0 and trans from that Frontier and put it in the Tacoma, I would be really happy. My biggest grip about my Tacoma is the no torque 3.5 and ridiculously under geared transmission they use. Currently saving up to put 5.29 gears in the Taco.
@@TheKingOfInappropriateComments Can't adjust the seat? Um yes you can... the driving position in the Frontier is much more comfortable than the Tacoma and more adjustable. Tech aside the Frontier is more enjoyable to drive in terms of how it handles and feels on the road. They'll make it up the same trails too so it really just comes down preference.
@@TheKingOfInappropriateCommentsAny discomfort is worth it just to have the honor of sitting in a Tacoma that can do no wrong...
I’m actually going to look at a Frontier Pro4X today. 2019 with 17,687 miles, single owner, no accidents for 20k! I don’t mind the turning radius thing, the entire video was super helpful though!
I own a 2006 nissan frontier 4x4 with the 4.0 and I absolutely love it! It was cheap to buy, cheap to insure and because it's not "updated" I can buy parts for dirt cheap but it still looks like a brand new truck.
The Nissan is the better value. Especially if you are on a budget. Trucks are no longer affordable new. Just go used.
Used Pro 4X
The problem is the reliability
@@coltonjacobs5383 yeah you can get a used frontier for nothing, but it's for a reason. when renault bought nissan, reliability went downhill.
@@coltonjacobs5383 more reliable than the 93 Ranger rust bucket in my driveway
@@CoelhoSports watch Scotty much lol. If that was true was is the Nissan frontier rated number 1 for compact trucks
I own a 2018 Nissan Frontier SV 4X4 Long Bed. It's honestly everything you ever need in a truck. 27k. Vs competitors at 12-15k more. Doesn't make sense. The minor updates to newer trucks don't justify the price tag. That's 100% why I went Frontier. Couldn't be happier
The problem I see is that Nissan is selling an 05 truck for that much in 2018. Its overpriced for what you get and the type of technology it has.
Nothing wrong with the truck, I just think its overpriced. 10k max brand new might be better tbh.
You can get a tacoma for a lot less than 50k. They shouldn't have compared these two
Nathan is the one on this channel with good judgement. He actually factors price into the equation. It's easy to spend someone else's money...
$50 grand for a Tocoma? When I stop laughing I will finish my comment!
Complete with drum brakes. ZR2's in the high 30's and a better truck.
Steven Claggett toyota build simple vehicles that are guranteed to go over 250,000 miles no problem. Chevy and ford make vehicles thats comfortable to last for 5yrs and starts fallin apart. It really depends on what you like..
@@blaaaaaaaa2017 its a very rare buyer that keeps a vehicle more than 5 yrs nowadays... Most sell before the warranty is out. No matter how long that warranty is, they trade it in by then.
@@f1y7rap apparently not because the tacoma is best selling and uses the last longer philosophy.
f1y7rap its not very rare.. specially toyotas. Best resale value. The only vehicle u can put 200,000 miles on and still sell for 50-60% of what you paid for.
I'll take the Frontier. The VQ engine family has been around since 1995 and shows no sign of slowing down!
I love my 2012 4.0... strong, smooth, reliable, cant be beat
my 2005 Frontier trans took a dump at around 80k miles.
@@aznboymix559 auto? Or manual?
@@aznboymix559 I've read many reviews of the autos in the frontier falling apart sooner than even yours.
dont forget the coolant in tranny too. Old Frontiers were much better
I agree with old school u can put skid plates and badass tires on any truck for cheaper than $50k, and upgrade it how you want.
Idk? Technology is great but it’s just more stuff to break.
And most people can't fix electronics on their own! Stuff gets expensive
this
Toyota dont break sorry
Don’t be a fan boy! Yes they do! Sorry
@@isaaclopez5004 I don't think anyone is really questioning Toyota reliability. Personally I'm just saying electronics tend to not last 10-15 years. How many cell phones/computers/garage door openers do you have from 15 years ago that still work?
Nothing like seeing the guy driving down the highway with the oversized snorkel on his $50,000 truck...🤣😂🤣😂
Thumbs up for the Frontier 👍
I test drove the TRD Pro yesterday and it was a nice truck! Though if it were my money, can’t beat the value of the Frontier Pro4X. Great video!
The TRD Off Road package Tacoma is a lot cheaper than the Pro and is pretty much just as capable, unless you're trying to go 100mph across the desert.
I love that every time you bring out this frontier it's a near identical truck to the one I bought two years ago. 2017 fully loaded pro4x in the dark red. Still loving it.
Love the frontier, TFL review years ago if the p4x sold me on my 2011 p4x
I've owned 3 Frontiers now, and it's the only truck I'll buy today. I just bought a 2019 Pro4x (traded in my 2015 Pro 4x) and I've never had a problem with any of the 3 I've owned. It's the only small truck that still has a big V6, plenty of power, reliable, and pulls my little boat with no problems. My first Frontier had 134k when I traded it in. My second had 86k, and my new one currently has 10k. If it ain't broke...don't fix it. If Nissan would keep this current design, maybe update the headlights, interior, wheels, new colors etc. It could go another 10+ years no prob.
I recently thought about getting another truck (a Tacoma) to replace my current Frontier which I've owned for about 10 years now. After much consideration, I've decided to stick with the Frontier because it is still in good shape. Engine and auto tranny operates smoothly. Very minimal rust on frame and body. I really want to upgrade to a 6 speed Pro4x in the near future though!
These reviews are the reason I got my 2016 Pro4x. Looks just like the one in the video and I love it.
I looked at both Tacomas and Frontiers I just couldn't get over the price difference both are great trucks but I decided to save a bunch of money and went with the frontier Plus I love that it's a 6-speed manual very fun to drive
Cody NG you’re not really saving any money at the end if you decide to get rid of the nissan
Andrew Smith congrats, you just surpassed mine.
Used. The frontier is a win, but if you buy that thing brand new theses days then it's not a steal and you're actually overpaying for what you get.
There are cheaper tacoma models
@@samlung2724 Yeah I got mine with 36k miles for a lot less than new. And the truck basically is new quality wise.
Love my 2017 Frontier Pro-4X!
The cool thing I love about the frontier is how they kept it small and how they kept the design. I like that I can buy an old one on CL and fix it up and only have a few things differentiating it from a new one. Plus I can easily upgrade it with newer/nicer interior bits if I want to.
Awesome video! I bought a 2016 Frontier Desert Runner for $23,000 brand new with 6 miles on it. Simplicity in a truck rocks! I love it...I affectionally call it my "Dessert Runner". I really enjoyed this video...thanks for posting!
High tech = High Prices Low tech = Low Prices. Nissan you pass the test, keep up the 1 million mile+ limit engines and simplicity. Amazing Truck!
Still Driving my 2003 Frontier XE. Can't beat the reliability and towing of this small truck. Keep your new ones! Mine will probably outlast me.
2004 Frontier XE, just clicked over 300,000 miles and still pushes forward. Has a lot of issues, but it always gets me from point A to B. Worth buying it again.
I wanted a new truck, but wanted a proven design. 2019 pro4x in in my driveway, and it is awesome.
I got a 2017 Frontier SV 4x4 Crew Cab for $30,600 out the door (TTL, maintenance package, et al.) The best anyone could do on a Canyon or Tacoma was $34K (before sales tax, etc.) for a stripped "work truck" 4x4 crew cab. Ranger wasn't out yet.
"Do it for Science " [then measuring the distance with his feet] Lol.
You guys are awesome!
Love the videos. And props for the Stillerz hat.
Man I love the frontier
I would not pay almost 50 grand for a vehicle without power seats in 2019
Axillary Gaming you sound spoiled.
Why? Usually seats are set and forget, unless lots of different drivers sit in them. Not a big deal
I would not pay almost 50 grand for a vehicle without POWER in 2019 either
Agreed I move my seat around still especially on really long drives
Amen to that
Thank you TFL guys for doing this.
Fun to watch. Made me subscribe.
After watching the video I’m ready to buy my Frontier,thanks guys...👍
I’m pumped to see the 2020 frontier next year
very entertaining video guys. great job !
I've said it before and I'll say it again, l love your channel!
I grew up in Estes Park and worked at the Big O in Boulder for years.
I used to two my CJ7 to Moab and boat to Lake Powell and always thought going up Vail or Eisenhower would've made a great towing test!
Go with the Frontier since it’s probably the only Nissan left that is reliable and it only took 10 years or more to get all the bugs worked out. The early 2005 to 2008 Frontiers had issues with coolant leaking into the transmission. Plus when the new Frontier comes out it’ll cost more and have early teething issues and probably a CVT 😂
Nissan didn't put a CVT on the Titan; they won't put one on the Frontier. It's not a truck transmission...
Paul von Helger Yeah, I know. But they did disgrace the Pathfinder with a CVT
@@kriskazecki6701 - The Pathfinder no longer lives up to it's name. It's just a fwd based crossover
@@kriskazecki6701 They made the Pathfinder a soft people carrier. The Xterra was the true successor to the Pathfinder. Same engine, chassis, drive line, and similar suspension. Same off road capabilities too.
The rest of the world has a new frontier u.s didn’t get it yet
I used to own a 2006 Frontier Nismo and sold it 6 yrs later with over 100k miles and it never left me stranded. I prefer the styling of the Tacoma but pound for pound the Frontier is the winner. Don’t worry though, when the new Frontier comes out it too will cost nearly 50k :(
It seems to me watching TFLtruck videos that like 80% of the subscribers hate the Tacoma lol. Every time I watch a video on the Tacoma the comment thread is just full of hate comments. It’s not for everybody, but that doesn’t mean it’s inferior. This is the best midsize on the market, and the sales numbers prove that. Everybody said when the Colorado came out it would take over the Tacoma in a few years. Hasn’t even come close, not to mention the frontier is miles behind the Tacoma. I’ll take the Tacoma all day.
most of the taco bashing reads like cut and pastes from somewhere else.
I test drove 6 Tacomas and just never really felt like it was worth the price tag. Then I tested a Frontier and bought it the next day. I've had it over two years now no issues and still loving it.
The Frontier is definitely a bargain right now, even compared to the TRD Off Road.
Yeah, but at the light stop next to the Tacoma you will be like WTF did i do buying this instead of that beast
josue CH nah.
pro-4x is not comparable to the TRD OR either.
Sit in the Frontier and you will understand why it is so cheap. 2005 called and they want their truck back.
coelho sports why not?
Old is gold
Really enjoying my 2017 Frontier SV Crew Cab. 41k miles on.
I’ve got a 2016 desert runner. Love the truck and it’s been fun to drive and no major problems.
Nissan SV 4x4 manual
No brainer, no frills, killer truck.
I've got a pro4x manual, but honestly, an SV with upgraded suspension and an aftermarket rear locker and youd be just as capable probably for less money.
trix4free Aye that pro 4x sticker is really adding the capability here don't forget😂😂
I'm very happy with my fronty. 24k new. Steal!
Leonard Lawrecki what’s your highway mileage?
@@grahamrothphotography Maybe 20ish. But I drive just under 2k rpm at 60 mph. I use my old car for stop and go city driving and use this to go to work 80% hwy
Leonard Lawrecki thx! Ya I commute highway 98kms round trip, so my goal is something that’s at least 20MPG highway, how many miles per tank? (Canadian as you can tell haha)
My dad has a frontier pro 4x and it's great. No problems and it rides amazing. It's an amazing truck.
My 06 Frontier is rocking 230k trouble free miles and I still love it!
Stickers add at least +3hp per cubic ft of sticker.
Fake hood scoop adds about 20 hp to the plastic engine cover 😂🤣
That's true
I've owed (and still own one) two 2007 Xterras, the Frontier's enclosed brother. They were both rock solid with NO issues. My current X is the most trouble free vehicle I've ever owned. Since they're mechanically identical, the same can be said of a Frontier. Given the choice between the new Taco and new Frontier, I'd take the Frontier, every time.
Ohhh, and this is coming from a guy who has owned, since it was new, a 1998 Taco TRD...
only had my frontier for a few months, but god I loved that truck...
Great video. I agree with most of the sentiments that the guys gave on both trucks, but where is the driving comparison on and off-road?
I didn't think the Tacoma could POSSIBLY be worth $50K, but then I saw the GoPro mount.... LOLThanks, but I'll keep my Frontier SV 4x4. Amazing truck, literally just over half the price.
I owned a bright red 2010 pro4x for 9 years. Mechanically flawless, i loved the way it looked and drove full the day i traded it. I was able to buy a very nice f150 because the nissan was still worth 40%of what i paid. Love my new ford, but that little truck was SO hard to walk away from...
I like the Tacoma but nissan is where the value and reliability is. They fixed the timing chain wear problem and worked out that pesky transmission self destruct issue and the design is so solid.
Tacomas retain 76% of their value
Toyota has best reliability.
@@BL_Denni really? After 9 years?
@@JJustinXu ok, then enjoy your Toyota.
P4X1279 I have owned 10 Toyota and Lexus cars the best brands out there. No brand can beat the Japanese.
Amazing video I like them both, good thing you can always upgrade you truck 🔥 with technology by the time
Still driving my 06 frontier, love the looks, HP, dependability, standard options,roomy interior.
Honestly I’d take the frontier, oh wait I did 👍
Ha
My prayers have been answered 🤠
❤ I love my Frontier 2018 with the 7G ATM ... so quite, so smooth, so efficiant and reliable
You guys are funny & very entertaining !!! Thank you for this video. Still scratching my head trying to figure out how so many people can justify paying so much for a truck (or any vehicle for that matter).
The price for the Tacoma is $50k because people are dumb enough to pay that much for a truck, that doesn't even have a power driver seat...
And Nissan is dumb for selling an 05 truck in 2020 for nearly the same price when it first came out.
Not defending the tacoma but Nissan is crazy to.
Sam Lung See the thing is though. Nissan is still selling and competing with their 15 year old truck. They sell 3rd place in the mid sized market up against trucks like the fancy gladiator and ranger.
@@samlung2724 frontiers are way more affordable than overpriced tacomas period
For the price difference you could supercharge the frontier, titan swap it with an M205 diff, armor it all around and put a winch bumper and a locker in the front
I have a 2002 Nissan Frontier with the 4 cylinder engine and a 5 speed manual transmission. 250,000 + miles. I have changed the shocks, tie rods, spark plugs, etc... Still going strong.
The Pro-4x has all the features I care about in a truck. I'll be buying another when it comes time to replace my 2010. The nice thing is I can pick up a nice used, loaded, low mile one for $20-25k
Am I the only one thats bummed because they didn't even take the trucks off roading?
You would be splitting hairs between the two crawling on Colorado jeep trails. The fox shocks really only have an advantage at high speeds. The Nissan has the exact same Bilstein shocks that the TRD Off Road package Tacoma has.
People that own these trucks don't take them off roading so this review is perfect
@@JamieR2077 i do every weekend.
@@BRollOffroad awesome dude! You the 1%! You broken much stuff doing that?
@@JamieR2077 not yet and the 7yrs with my 1st gen i didn't have anything major go wrong.
That generation of Frontiers were honest trucks. Even the new ones are really nice and simple.
Added a 2” lift to my 2015 Frontier, cheap and easy. Also a Schrock Works bumper and skid plate.
Omg ive been waiting for this forever!
50k+ and no power seat? Toyota is high.
Did you not see the go pro mount???
The Tacoma is the best selling small truck by FAR. Clearly, the people buying them don't give a shit about the seat.
Pat W it's a good truck yes but for 50 GRAND. That's almost Ford raptor money..... The taco still doesn't have 4 disc brakes and power seats.
Who needs an electric seat i mean what the hell you set it once and you never do it again.
@@cinder9950 hahah
Give me the Nissan Frontier every day!
Great vid
I got a 2020 frontier midnight edition and I love it
13 mins and absolutely no off-road? C'mon guys! This isn't what you do!
Lol!!!!!!!
I own a fully loaded 2005 Nissan Titan LE w/180K... not one problem with it... looking forward to putting another 180K on it. Tech is great but I don't need it... Kudos to the UNDERDOG!!!
Titan is way better than frontier, sorry but you are comparing apples to watermelons.
I: Toyota’s and nissans are probably the most reliable truck companies. Idk about the newest generations. But the Nissan hardbody lasted for 300k + easily, and Tacoma’s are always breaking that million mile goal.
@@montanawhite5699 my 05 was the 1st year of the 1st gen Titan, 14 years old... This is a brand new Frontier on an architecture almost as old... Comment was about brand reliability and not performance...smh
Will H. I used to be a Nissan guy myself, I had two 93 hardbodies. Very great reliable truck. High mileage, no problems at all. Only thing was lack of power. I also had a 01 frontier. Decent truck not as good as the hardbody. They keep going down in quality. The new frontiers really need an upgrade, the engine ain’t that reliable neither is the transmission. The only good truck Nissan makes now is the titan. I love Nissan but they gotta step up there midsize. Also, titans have a tighter turning radius than the frontier. How is that possible.
Great video, guys. I have had a Nissan Frontier 2011 since its birth, and after watching your video, I'll be buying another Nissan Frontier! American made, non union, great performance, and great price. Go Nissan.
Love my 04 Nissan Frontier. Basic with electric windows and mirrors. Hauls my dirt bike with the tailgate up. But what I really love is it has been payed off for over 10 years and only has just over 107K.
I have yet to find a Toyota dealer that will sell a Taco for below MSRP. Usually they tell me there's a wait, and as such, buyers are having to out-bid eachother... Most Tacos never see dirt (like most Frontiers, Wranglers, ....) Nissan dealers are always offering at least a $2k discount... Which leaves me a $15k budget for upgrades on a Frontier P4X.... Guess what... for about $5k you can get (aftermarket) REAL sliders (not steps that will catch on every rock), steel skids, steel or Aluminum plate winch bumper, and 3" lift with King shocks..... Mileage, I average 17/19... my buddie's Taco never manages the EPA figures... he gets 17/18
My primary criticism is the radio... but again, with the purchase savings, you can upgrade the head unit...
The crawl control is only for those that aren't interested in learning to wheel... and again, my buddy disables it more than he uses it, as it gets him stuck more than unstuck.
Yea! In my area, there is a 5 grand market adjustment for them. However, they took 9 grand off my 4Runner, which I now regret buying!
You need to look outside if your comfort zone, for example the Prius no discount blah blah blah 150 miles away from home dealership they were willing to offer me $4170 discount
Tacoma $3500 discount and you get a great deal at the end of month and on June July and August
@@reyperez3424 No, I'm talking a 150-200 mile radius from where I live... From teh canadian border to NJ to Ohio... you can't find a discounted Taco in the northeast. And when you go outside of what's a "reasonable" drive (seriously, who is going to drive 8+hrs one way) to save even a few thousand... by the time you finish with the ancillary costs you're back to what it costs locally.
I liked this Frontier commercial.
I have a 2012 3l d4d Toyota Fortuner automatic. Man what a machine. Love from South Africa
Could you please spend more time testing these head to head?
The Frontier has disc brakes all around.
so when you're driving down the highway in reverse, you're covered.
You don't notice the rear drums on the Taco, it still has really good brakes. Which is a real surprise given the previous gen Tacomas and 4 runners had absolute garbage brakes.
Yes and I'm super grateful for that. Didn't even notice till after I bought my truck lol. I don't even remember how to change drum brakes lol
There's good and bad about disc brakes and drums. The trade offs are primarily weight (disc is heavy) clean stopping power (drum has higher surface area) heat management/ fade (disc handles this better assuming you get decent pads) longevity (drums / shoes can last much longer) performance in bad conditions ex: mud (disc are far superior for this.) And don't forget... cost. Drums are cheaper
Nathan way to rep that Steelers hat. I am from Central PA, love it!
2015 Nissan Frontier, base model, $15,000 crank windows, no power or heated seats, just a basic truck, love it and it came with a 100,000 mile warranty! Does everything I need it to, I added the fog lights, tow package, bed extender and back up camera all for about $500. I don't foresee needing to buy another truck for a long time.
Wow
Toyota cost more than my 19’ Rebel after discounts
Had a Tacoma years ago and loved it but not $50k love
Just a got a new 2019 Ram 1500 Bighorn 4x4 V8 for cheaper as well. That's insane man.
it costs that much because they took the highest trim and cut a snorkel into the fender and put side steps and every other ridiculous thing they could get. nobody will ever pay close to that for a taco.
A Rebel for under 50? Calling BS there, or you live in Texas where they can't give away 4x4s
I did look at a RAM 1500 Laramie that was incentived down to 42k, very nice truck, but useless for my needs. It had very little ground clearance and is soo big it needs its own zip code. I ended up buying a TRD Off road Tacoma and love it so far.
mrvwbug44 call BS Lol 😂
Well you’re correct
I’m in Texas Lol
I would like to rather spend my money investing and building wealth than driving a payment. The main reason people live paycheck to paycheck is they can't be content with what they own.
These will both have you making a payment.
Cant be content owning a colorado
So you don't own a car at all?
He must own a bicycle
@@AMatofFact own 3 vehicles no payments. 2005 Silverado Duramax diesel, 2009 BMW 335D, and a 2017 4runner.
Love my 2015 frontier 4x4 3 inch lift 285s great rig
Last quarter the frontier sold $20,000+ units, I know it doesn't sound like much, but consider that it out sold three other models, and when people start to drive it, they will realize how great it is in comparison! I hope they never change the truck, maybe upgrade the features in time, but continue to give us the consumers this option in a class that is losing it's mind in pricing!
For about a grand, you can add a lot of those accessories to the Frontier.....Stereo with apple car play, step bars, wireless charging, tailgate struts, etc
VaDonkey you can buy a trd off-road, for 35k. Pretty much same thing as pro but less fancy. They make it seem like the Tacoma is super over priced, but they got the most expensive one with lots of useless crap. The trd off-road is pretty much the frontier but better.
@@montanawhite5699 but you get fox shocks, a beefier skid plate and a fake hood scoop. Does it justify the ridiculous mark up for the TRD PRO? Toyota marketing thinks so.
Probably looking at closer to 1.5k to 2k dollars depending on what you buy, a good stereo insert can be 400 to 2,000 dollars alone, running boards are 200 to 600 dollars, no idea on a gas strut for the tailgate, and who cares about wireless charging anyway.
s13one80 I don’t think it’s worth it, unlesss your rich and or like to show off and care what everyone else thinks about you. Which seems to be 90% of the population now. I just don’t like how they are making it seem like Tacoma’s cost 50k while nissans cost 30k. I’m just saying that the Tacoma’s I always see are priced at 35k or less. I haven’t seen much trd pros or trd limited. Because people aren’t rich.
My Frontier 12 years old has been great all around with no rust in the snow belt. The current generation introduced in 2004 as a 2005 model year will have examples of this generation on the road for at least the next 15 years bringing the total to around 30 years on the road for the current design. The core design of the truck and the price point Nissan got right.
We have the 2019 "Big Red" frontier, and it's great! Not only is honest, but the price out the door was awesome, we love the simplicity, and don't have to pay for tech we don't use! Nissan!
A 2019 Ranger XL with vinyl interior and e locker looks pretty nice!
I currently own a 2017 Tacoma 4x4, and it's a literall piece. Poor quality for the money IMO, if I get anything with 4x4 it's going to be a Nissan truck for sure. I own a 90 Pathfinder with CV axles all around, and it still ripped through everything I threw at it.
mathewburgos3 what’s wrong with it. I work at a Toyota dealer ship and i have heard nothing but good thing about them and I have never seen anything on the truck that looks out of place
@@danieldavidson8149 Tacomas are plagued with horrible transmissions which seems to hunt for gears on highway/some are failing early. Not to mention all the rust/paint problems. Still have cheapo drum brakes.
@@danieldavidson8149 just like the gentleman below stated. The transmission is probably the biggest gripe, also not to mention the worst seats / seating position. I've also just had a horrendous spree of bad luck with my truck. The other day I was loading rocks into the bed,and the entire bed detached from the right hand pivot side, yes I have picture evidence lol.
mathewburgos3 what is the bed side pivot? It’s ridiculous that a brand new truck would have trouble with a load of rock. I have a 1990 Toyota pickup 4x4 and that’s thing is tough as rocks. My dad hauled 4500 pounds in his 1990 Toyota without a problem. Maybe they need to rehire the engineers that build the old ones
@@danieldavidson8149 im speaking of where the bed inserts it's right side swivel point in! I think your right though, the older stuff from Toyota is untouchable.