I Bought the RAREST Honda Dirt Bike (1976 Elsinore)
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- I buy a very rare 1976 Honda cr250 Elsinore dirt bike and fix it up. #Honda, #CR250, #Elsinore,
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This is not just a bike, it's a piece of history.
I remember those days !!
@@jwfinley7808 Me too brother. I was 13 years old when this came out....
I was 15 years old and remember it well. Take care of it and treat it well.
We gotta see a dyno run, this thing BARKS :)
also when a dirt buke seat was comfortable. My KLX250 seat burns my but after about an hour...I could ride my 79 CR125 all day no problem.
I got this bike for my 15th birthday. I rode the heck out of her for 36 years 4 rebuilds, years of fun. Sold it for 11,000.00. best bday gift ever.
seriously the best birthday gift ever the gift just kept on giving
How much was it new ? $2200 ?
@@davidcmcchesney Dealers were selling them really cheap by end of 1976. They were death on the marketplace being so out dated before they were built.....Honda likes to squeeze all it can out of the same design.
@@davidcmcchesney We paid 1100 for a new 250 Elsinore in 1974. 76 couldnt have been that much more.
You know its good when you stand out in the rain to do a walk around! Thanks for helping us relive our youth
Dang it Joe, I gotta go to work in 10 minutes! You do this to me every time 🤣 we’ll continue this at 5.
Me too,,I'll bring the tasty cold beverages
Just watch at work like the rest of us 😂
Well I'll watch it for ya...
Take the day off, I’ll ok it with your boss. Grab a 6 pack on the way home.
I know right the new vids pop up and yank your shirt sleeve lmaoooo
Make sure you have a coffee can over your tractors mufflers if they dont have a flapper. Dont want all that rain down them. Just saw while you flew by them.🙂
I bought a new 1976 CR 125 Elsinore and then I also had a 74 CR 250 with the aluminum tank very pretty bike all I can see is you got a jewel for a steal$$
Did you pay more than 2200$ for your bike in 1976 ?
@@elvis4182 he paid about half that for these 70s Elsinores.
@@MarkAlan-no7mb Yeah, before Bidenflation turned the US$ into toilet paper!
1973 Gary Jones , motocross champion on a Honda Elsinore 250. Looks fast as heckle just sitting there.
You talking gary jones from picayune ms ?
Heckle?
A guy down the street from me had a 70's 250 Elsinore. Was a nice bike and beat most of the kids in the neighborhood. The only guy that beat him constantly had a Montesa 250 and raced NE Ohio circuit motocross & took a couple of championships at 14 years old. His Dad was a machinist and his brother worked for Weisco.
Nice unmolested Elsinore, congrats on a great purchase!
Cool 😎
This is a real 2 VINTAGE bike!!!! Love it!!!
1970s Japanese air cooled scramblers were things of beauty, what a keeper.
Watch out she don't "kick you back"! I had a '74 Elsinore that kicked back quite hard, and that probably won't be the first time you have to mess with the kicker either, I got so tired of messing with mine all the time I just pop started it, but MAN was that thing a rocketship, and hearing yours brings back memories...
Hahaha, I had a 74 Elsinore with a wisco single ring piston. That thing kicked back like no other. Whap !! I was in 7th grade, about 85 lbs. Bike was super fast and shook it's head, violent full lock, on deceleration in the bumps. Had to get back on the gas to straighten it out. Can't believe that thing didn't kill me. Good times....
My 73 250 Elsinore blew the trans to tiny bits, twice. The first time destroyed the engine completely and totally. The rod broke when the bike popped out of gear WFO and destroyed everything but the ignition and the head. New crate engine time.
These things handled like choppers, the front end was kicked way out with a long wheelbase.
Now a days they are the best ever.
@@bradsanders6954 did notice a distinct headshake at speed with my '74, but at the same time I was always lookin' for a 6th Gear that wasn't there...
@@RandomPrecisionMotors I flipped my 74 Elsinore over backwards, twice, in 5th gear.....once when the throttle stuck off a jump, once after smoking hooters with a friend.....destroyed the bike bit by bit......we put it between a telephone pole and a truck, used a come along to straight the rear of the frame.....then I traded it for a 1956 Ford F-100....Major chick magnet truck.
I had a 1976 125. I was 14 back in 1981 it was a great bike. I beat on it for 2 yrs, then bought a 1980 cr 450. Those were great memories
how was the cr450? always heard they was not good bikes. i have an 83 cr480 im currently restoring.
@atothez1931 hi, it was a nice bike I got it new in 83, so I guess it was not a loved bike. The only thing I think was a draw back was that it was 4 speed. Left side kick start.
It has good suspension, fast.
Not a good trail bike, felt heavy in sand. I was 16 so it was awesome. Lol. I wish I had kept it. Later I got a 83kx 125. And a 86cr125. Loved them. Good and reliable
There was no 450 in 1980 ,it was an 81
@nomasker1360 Yeah, not sure why I was thinking 1980, yes 81 only year.
Rain, snow or shine, Joe's out there finding the goods. Amazing how constantly consistent you are. Thanks for putting in all that time behind the scenes.
I remember as a kid we would say "The Elsinore can climb a tree!" nothing touched these bikes back in the day.
The Bultaco's would out hill climb that Honda all the livelong day
@@user-bh7bi4bu1t yeah, for one year maybe
Man, I remember when these came out. They were rippers and everyone wanted one. Great find.
Who needs a garden tiller when you have one of these bikes, awesome!
By far the most bad ass bike you've done to date. Those things are awesome. I remember seeing them as a little kid.
Ahh Memories, from my youth, the Elsinore is very light weight and has great power, without all of the add on stuff like power valves and liquid cooling, manufactures no longer keep things simple. This was one of your best videos so far, Thank You!
I owned a 1976 Mr 250 Elsinore in 1979 one of the best enduro’s Honda ever built I miss that bike I added a super trap exhaust
Nice I had one as well in the late 99's early 2000's
I had a 1976 MT 250 Elsinore in 1987, i kept it for a few years and sold it, I wish I still had that bike.
Supertrapp! I haven't heard that for quite a while.
I had a 76 mr 250 also,I loved that bike
wow had one back in the 70's, a real time capsule.
At 59 years old you just brought back memories of my youth! If you would have straddled it when starting in garage it would have lit off right away. And you never want to use your arm to turn that over, that's one lesson you don't want to learn. I wanted to taste & smell that blue smoke. Can't beat that low end torque as evidenced by your tracks, Outstanding display of a beautiful machine!
Beautiful classic Honda! Not sure if you noticed but you vacuumed up the builder of that mouse nest right at the end 😀
You know how many guys are drooling over that bike right now 🤤
Well crap… was just getting ready to leave the house and now I’m going to be 51:09 minutes late. 😊
What a find and at a great price! Looks so much like a 1975 Yamaha MX175 I had when I was 20. Set it up like an IT175 with larger plastic tank. Plastic front and rear fenders and headlight and brake light. Rode it on several enduros in Colorado, Wyoming and Nebraska. That bike could climb any hill and was very light. Engine never gave me any problems. Loved the video
I like how you clean up , repair and reuse as much as you can.
This one is dear to my heart Joe! I got this bike when I was 13 and it made me feel like I was Marty Smith! It was so beautiful and easy to ride compared to the 73 to 75 model. I added a Terry kit to the forks, Luft shocks, a Turner pipe with a Richter Performance muffler and she was perfect! Try dropping your needle one step and she will pull hard on top!
I can tell you really love this bike. You stand out in the rain for a long time just talking about it. Respect!
Yes get it outta the rain ,sheesh!🤷🤔🤔👁👁👁😬😬
@@craigmorgan4676 Yep, I was thinking the same thing the whole time.
I bought the 76 125 brand new still in the shipping crate from our local Honda dealer. I was 13 and I saved every penny I made working for my dad on the weekends and bailing hay and straw for our neighbor who was a dairy farmer on my summer vacation. The dealer was so impressed that I paid 700 dollars cash all on my own that he paid for my first years AMA dues and also my entry fee for my first race at Redbud our local track. That little red bike never did me wrong. All the other 125's were five speeds while the Honda 125 had six which came in handy a few times lol. still wish I had it.Thanks for bringing that 250 back to life, They were the first year Honda started riding RED.
Remember the 10" travel 1976 RM 125 Suzuki? Thats what I bought new once.
It was the longest travel best handling 125 on the market. Like a little works bike.
My brother who was an engine builder raced motocross and flat track back when the Elsinore came out. They were formidable competitors and very reliable! You have a great find there and your fastidious approach with a new acquisition paid off bigtime! Congrats!
You know Joe, with all of the equipment you have on the Land now, you could create for yourself a test track for all of the test runs you take with your bikes.. like a loop course and /or a woodlands course. just a thought. thanks for the great content.
Wow! Out of all the bikes you have this one is by far the best, what a find, a true jem! The Sound is amazing. I assume this is a keeper.
Great find ! A bike from my era. I remember the Cycle magazine had the 2 red factory race Elsinores on the cover when they first came out.
Got a semi running 77 cr80 Elsinore out back of shop. Gonna do full resto on it this summer
Those bikes are great, they sound amazing to.
They didn't make the CR80 until 1980.
@@steveanthrop8475 You are spot on. 1980 first year CR80. Why do people just make stuff up on here? Unreal.
Man, please never stop making these videos as long as you enjoy making them.
I learn something new every time I watch.
Thanks for always posting this quality content, we all appreciate it big time.
This is from my time. I had a 77 Suzuki RM 125. Those were great bikes, the Yamaha Yz was also great. I really liked the Honda but I think the YZ was the best of the bunch. But I loved my RM. I never had so much fun as a 16 year old. So much fun.
The second MX bike I ever bought was this when it first came out..
I saved money for two years to go from a modified 125 Hodaka to a 250.
I had to get something better looking than the Hodaka, but that chrome domed bike gave me the Bike Bug for Moto Cross.
At first I was liking the Yamaha YZ but after I seen a friend with the silver green tank 250 Elsi, I had to get one.
It was way more than I expected, to be honest it was scary at first but after a few days cutting track and feeling the groove of how it handled I loved it.
I quickly installed a Compression release kit on mine as I was tired of getting my leg hammered by the unpredictable unexpected kick back.
Wound up trading it in plus mucho mas dinero for a 1981 Maico 490..
I was at my pinnacle with that bike on the open class.
Miss all my bikes, the Elsi was a fun bike at 17 years old with lots of power for a 250.
...when you took off over the field *BIG SMILE*
Unfortunately, those C clip springs get metal fatigue, and bending them back is only temporary. Eventually, they lose tension again, but if your willing to deal with the relapse, then go for it.
Nice find Joe! I owned a 1976 Honda 125 Elsinore. Also bought a 1985 Honda CR500 new. That thing was a beast.
I bet that 500 was a handful
The '85 Honda CR 500 was the most brutal big-bore Honda ever built. From '86 on, they were trying to de-tune them to make them more rideable.
man this brings back memories I was a 15 and a freshman in high school when this bike came out.
I know they're not in the same class but these old bikes are just so cool looking, though I'm an old guy. I purchased a new DT250 Yama. in 1973 at 19 yrs old ($835 OTD). I still have it. It was modified by the dealer for the woods: removed signal lights; high-rise plastic front fender; fork brace; cleated foot pegs; alloy handle bars; different grips; HD knobby's all around instead of on-road-off-roads.. Competition Green..
Dt250 absolutely AWESOME bikes 🤠🤟
I was 18. 1974 DT 250 bought Jan. '75 as a leftover for $950. My first bike. First thing after getting it home was to remove the turn signals and put on the cleated footpegs. Later, Preston Petty fenders, Oury grips, and Cheng Shin full knobbies (they were cheap). Wish I still had it.
Those old 250s were beasts! Should hear the 500s.
Thank You for getting that bike. I had the 77 model and you brought back a lot of great memories.
If you actually DID have one, please share a photo. Honda never made a 1977 CR250 model. Went from 1976 to 1978. Skipped 1977.
@@MSH_361 I apologize, mine was actually a 1975 with red stripe on top of the fuel tank
Had a 1976 125 Elsinore with a performance pipe in the 70s and that crackle sound was superb. Brings back memories, thanks for sharing.
each time i watch more videos i notice your workmanship and finesse get better and better.this is my dream bike you are working on right there.
Had a MT 250 Elsinore in 1977, street legal. Had oil injection and paid $700 for it with 300 miles on it. Great bike and I did race it. When I blew a piston, I replaced key engine parts with CR stuff and added Testors model airplane fuel to the oil tank to get a little extra oomph out it.
Testors made plastic models and glue, not performance fuel.
@@bradsanders6954 for radio controlled planes. Still have a bottle
The sound reminds me of YZ 465 that was a beast the power band was crazy
I have just started to watch this young lads work and vlogs,, got plenty more to watch in the future.Wish this young man lived in my area but he could certainly work on my bikes with out any question.Great work.👍👍
I googled this bike and looks correct except shocks,some graphics and many were indeed missing the silencer. Great find Joe.
Best sounding bike you've ever had! Aside from needing to be tuned a little bit better...
That 76' Elsinore CR250 was the bike everyone wanted!! My neighbor down the street had one and you could hear it every time he fired it up!! Brings you back for sure!!
BTW, he barely had it off the truck before the silencer came off. Heh heh
I have been riding since I was five years old. My fourth bike was this Honda CR but a 125. I was completely two-stroke addicted. Great bike beautiful 250
Those were fantastic bikes.
Good find. It has been well taken care of.
You gotta sell some bikes or get a bigger shop.
You are about out of room to work there Joe!!
That's awesome Joe! Love the video and would like to see more bikes from the 60s and the 70s.
I think I have the same problem with the kick start. Immense thanks for explaining the issue with it! Watching all your videos from about a year ago. Love the procedure you do for finding the issues. Thanks a lot for that!
Last year I bought a '74 Honda MT125 Elsinore for $800 from a guy close to Joliet, IL. MT125/250 is the enduro version of CR with lights and turn signals (mine are missing) and a bit detuned engine. The bike runs when bump started, but a lot of things are missing including the entire electric system. I bought some parts from ebay though, like speedo and tacho meters + new battery, bar handles etc.
You may try running NGK B9ES spark plug instead of BR9ES. R means it has a 5K ohm resistor which adds additional resistance and usually is not needed for vintage bikes.
Dang! I had the exact same bike when I was in high school…ended up selling it so I could buy car….dumbest thing I ever did….well not the dumbest…😅
Sweet video…brings back memories!
I rode the '75 125 Elsinore back in the late 1970's. Added a radial head, up pipe and put in a 30mm Mikuni carb. A GREAT bike...wish I still had it. Great video by the way...brings back memories!
When cold, shift earlier keeping the revs lower. Speed shift. I cringed every time you kick started it. Push start until you get your replacement parts. Replace the kick starter gear since you have a couple of attenuated teeth. Nice bike for sure. Another successful endeavor.
What an AMAZING find Joe, and for that price, I can't believe it, as if the seller didn't know what he had.. what a historic bike. I'm so glad you got this Elsinore and will save her forever.. So nice!
Good Lord what a beautiful bike. Found another Jem bud. Most definitely put that one in your collection. Been looking for one like that forever myself but every one I have found is to rough for me. Or over priced. Absolutely beautiful thank you for the video!
I remember these, along with all of the other Japanese bikes, as being very affordable. The last brand-new bike I owned was a 1987 Suzuki RM 125. I paid $2200 for it out the door back in '88. Now they're closer to ten grand with a brand-new Yamaha YZ 125 listing at $7300 and the YZ 250 being $8200. Both of these haven't changed in over ten years, but if you wanted the very latest in two-stroke technology, the 2024 KTM 250 SX lists for $9250. I don't know about you, but if I had to shell out that kind of scratch for an MX bike, I don't know if I'd be able to beat on it or not.
I had a CR 125 Elsinore 1976. The 125 had the exhaust pipe under while the 250 had the exhaust pipe over the head. That engine is pretty easy to completely break down. When I bought my 125 it still had the stickers on the metal gas tank the bike was like brand new. The guy I bought it from took the entire motor apart. I mean he split the crank case and took everything out and had all the parts in boxes. He at least labled the boxes with where he took the parts from. He couldn't put it back together and got so frustrated he sold it to me for $500.00 dollars. My dad bought a shop manual for it and we put the transmission together shifting forks gears everything. Bought new piston and rings and had the cylinder honed. The bike started on the fourth kick and ran like a brand new bike. I rode it for about a year and sold it to my riding buddy and best friend for what I paid for it. I could have sold it for way more but my buddy couldn't afford more than $500.00 and I wanted my best friend to have a serious Moto X bike. I was so lucky back then I found a 1974 CR 250 Elsinore a guy was selling. The bike was down in his cellar covered in inches of dust. When I walked up to it I almost shiot myself the bike was in mint condition and once again the sale stickers were still on it. The handle bar had a slight bend on the clutch handle side. I got that bike for $250.00 that was the best deal I ever found to this day. I've been riding over 40 years. Had more motorcycles than most people except you 😂. That CR 250 made me a better rider because I had about 4 to 6" of travel in the rear. I had to learn to pick the best possible lines on the track to beat people the engine was awesome compared to the 125. I had a ton of low and mid range power you don't get with a 125 Elsinore. After that I moved to a Suzuki RM 125 B 1977. Then a RM 125 C 1978. Both of those RMs were my favorite bikes I ever rode on the track. If you can find one of those years of RM buy it! Then try it Suzuki was king back then bro. You won't even want to ride a CR after that. To be honest I'd take my old Suzuki TM 125 over the CR 125 that was 2 yrs newer. I still regret selling my TM 125. It was better than the Elsinore in my opinion.
My neighbor had one when I was a little boy. It sounded just like this. The guy was crazy for speed. He would do wheelies up and down the alley. We would be on our Stingrays watching every move he made.
Nice find. I had a 76 CR250 in the early 2000s. got a lot of looks when I used to ride it back then. Sold it for $800 a few years later.
Your spark tester, the way it’s intended to be used, is you’re supposed to put a “known good”, or new spark plug, in the far left hole where it says “normal light”, then up to four plugs you want to test in the other holes, and you compare the sparks as you run the test.
He runs the plug up to 4500 and if it glitches a sec he says welp. Bad plug hahaha.
Just buy a new plug for every vehicle. How hard is it😊
Interesting. I have owned several bikes but I never stopped to think how the kickstart works. 👍
That initial fire sounded like a machine gun. Nice find man.
Hearing it run put a smile on my face
High school friend acquired a 1973 Elsinore in our senior year of '82. It was absolutely Mint! Looked like it hadn't ever been rode on. It was such a beast!
That Bike Sounded so Crisp. Took me right back to the 70s. Mint🇬🇧👍
Check or torque the spokes bro
To add, maybe flip the front sprocket around so it wears the opposite side so it don’t get shark toothed.
That bike brings back so many great memories, ripping across the ridge and furrow feilds.
You brought back a lot of memories, my friends had the early 70s elsinores, silver, great bikes
Quick!! Roll her into the storage unit full of keepers !! Great find joe
Nice find, that's one to keep forever and leave untouched.
Ah the memories and regrets. This, and along the MT version, are the two bikes, i wished i had kept. The sound of that old CR honestly brought tears to my eyes.
That's badass. You scored. My first bike was a HONDA XL175 enduro. Wish I'd kept it to this day.
Cool bike! Back in the 1980's my cousin had a 175 Elsinore and my friend purchased a brand new 1976 CR125 Elsinore in 1984. They were rippin' bikes!
I had a 1980 XR200 and had to replace the kickstart gear about 3 times over 2 years & it was not easy. You have to take the motor out of the frame & take all the gears out to get to it.
Mate, that honda is amazing for its age, great buy. Little hint, get yourself a milk crate to help you unload your bikes on and off your ute tray. Certainly helps me. Nice job
Great looking and great sounding brings back some fond memories. Thanks Joe
My buddy had a 79 cr 125 elsanor with the big 23inch front tire. Awesome bike and quick it was a tall bike back in 79
That experimental wheel ended up being a disaster. Everyone hated them, and they ruined how these bikes handled.
BIG score for the home team!! What a find! I remember when these came out. I used to race with a friend whose dad rode a Husky 390 and had gotten my buddy an Elsinore CR250R when they came out, `78 if I reckon correctly. MONSTER of a bike -love the sound and smell of a two-smoke. You got a beauty there - looks like it's never been raced or if it was the rider was either first or last LOL. Great find! Thanks for sharing, really love the vids you put out and always look forward to the next.
1978 was a completely different bike than this one.
I was 14 years old in 1976 when this bike came out and I wanted one badly. I did get lucky enough to ride one though Good buddy had one. Have a good one Joe Nice pickup buddy
So rare,--I know one guy who has 2 of them for vintage racing. He races against several others too.
Everything old,--is rare to you.
Wow, that is one sharp looking bike! Seems like a really good deal! To be the same age as I am, Ill be 48 on the 24th of this month, I wish I was in as good of condition as that bike
Can we get a little history on why these bikes are so great and so historic? Love the video and the bike!
Write in Google:
Lake Elsinore dirt bike races
And will find out.
The motocross races at the lake's tracks were extremely popular in the 70s.
This brings back a lot of memories. I bought the exact same bike in 1977. I was 16 years old at the time.
It was the owner of our local Honda dealerships personal bike. He only rode it three times. He was going
to desert race it but changed his mind so he sold it to me...
I took the silencer off for a couple days and put it back on. We rode at least 3-4 hours every day, so it didn't take long
for the noise to get old. Honestly, it really didn't affect the power very much putting it back on, and it was a lot
more enjoyable to ride..
These came out the year after I graduated. Amongst the Bultaco's & Ossa's, these were a highly sought-after dirt bike. I raced at a local track near where I lived and you'd see these pretty regularly........great bike..........haven't seen one that nice in a long long time.
Nothing like a crisp two stroke at full song. That rush of power when it comes on the pipe. You never get that with a four stroke.
Joe, at the 4:40 mark you're spinning a screwdriver like a well seasoned electrician!
Looking at that bike, if only that fellow could tell us the story. 76, I remember those days and the bike having that new bike smell. Similar to new car smell, but different! Good find, Joe, hey, waittaminnute, where's the boss, um, Vinny?? Jus ain't right without the star of the show, don'tcha know!!
A 76 Honda Elsinore!!! Wow one of Hondas Holy Grails. Such a beautiful bike. That nostalgic sound. That bike in that condition is a perfect addition to your collection. Love the content. Looking forward to next video
Actually, by 1976, Honda CR250's were outclassed by Yamaha and Suzuki. Even Husky and Penton/KTM. Crappy suspension, brakes and power compared to those competitors. Not rare at all.
First thing I do after removing those Phillips is replace them.
I remember the 76 125 was the bike we all wanted.
Allen bolts were the go
They are not Phillips.
Those Elsinore’s were fast, nice find! 💪
I had a 1982 Yamaha IT250H, man it sounded so much like this 250 2 stroke, so much fun to ride. That 250 pulls so much harder than a 125, lotsa lotsa fun.
Minty Fresh!! That's an absolute dime piece, true Survivor!! 😮 Excellent score Joe!! She doesn't like the high RPM's but I'd put that on the lack of back pressure... Needs a Silencer!
Definitely have a keeper there Joe! Getting tougher to find good buys on the vintage bikes!
I bought a 76 rm 250 when I was 18. My friends all said I was Crazy. Lots of fun.
I have a 1974 Kawasaki 250, makes me want to get it started and tear up some dirt. Ill probably sell it because im pushing 80, just too old to break anything...lol...
Great job as always Joe ..
Man I hope you keep that bike.. would make a really cool bike to restore and lucky for you it's mostly cosmetic work. It's a really rare bike to see and the fact it still has the stickers on the rims is really cool. My father and I love old Hondas like this and he's been around but has never seen one in person really cool bike