Technically there is little to no real-life evidence of Kunoichi actually existing, and usually it is seen as a pop-culture term. That said, maybe they were just REALLY good at their jobs. Though funnily enough if the genders were reversed here it would be a bit more historically accurate. All historically known ninja were male, but there were in fact female warriors that fought alongside samurai called the Onna-Musha. That said, historical accuracy has never been a forefront of AC games, so it doesn't particularly matter.
@@shadowsonicsilver6 again, they might have. But there is no historical evidence of them existing. Kunoichi has only ever been used to describe female shinobi in pop-culture. They definitely could have existed. But there are no records of them unlike many male shinobi.
To be fair, most women assassins during feudal japan usually wore just default ass kimono's and japanese peasant attires etc to blend in with the crowd. And most assassinations happened during the night and was actually bought by other rivaling Samurai clans to take out other important people due to jealousy, greed and power. Believe it or not, but the Samurai was not actually as morally good and nice people as you might think xdd, and still the women assassins wore just basic ass attire. Not fancy ass full black garb with shitton of shurikens, hoods, scarf that covered their face, and kunai's + a sword on the back. But at the end of the day, it's not real. And if these types of games was fully realistic, it would be piss boring gameplay anyways. Imagine a gameplay of like the series Shogun. It's a good series and very historically accurate. But imagine that in a videogame, holy zzzzZZZZzzz
@@lj_aderynbro there is no evidence cause they didn’t leave any most countries arnt as sloppy as the USA Japan were slick enough for thei women fighters to go unnoticed also jus cause u haven’t found anything doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist I’m sorry to burst ur bubble but ur a nobody u not finding it isn’t proof it doesn’t exist all it proves is you couldn’t find anything why does men these days have to shit on the possibility a women can be capable most of you writing these can even fight to save your own lives now u wanna disrespect all women Japanese fighters u rlly think only men fought that’s delusional even during world war 1 when women were barely aloud out alone we had women fighters their rarer but they do exist hell France would probably still be under German control if a women didn’t lead the French resistance
In my personal opinion A woman ninja and a black samurai is not something we should be mad at. it is the cost of skins and the 100 cost for an edition of the game is something we actually can get mad at
Skins? You don’t need skins lol, but them if you want but all it does is give you the option. And the game price is standard for the gaming industry, 70$. The 100$ one includes DLC and other expansions. And don’t forget, this is Ubisoft. If the DLC is like Valhalla, the DLC is going to be as big as some of the older games.
Literally nobody thinks that, but Leonardo Da Vinci was still portrayed as accurately as possible along with his inventions like his flying machine and parachutes.
No, it's not historically accurate to represent a retainer who was treated as a novelty to jab fun at, as a 'legendary samurai', let alone someone capable of social stealth in a land where their skin is the opposite color to everyone else. Nice strawman, who did you get it from? Good AC has always been about "What if this plot, behind all the historical accuracy" The same crowd has been shitting on Odyssey's mythical monster fights, the giant wolf in Valhalla, the teleport murder powers in general, all along. This is what happens when something is gatecrashed.
@@demnbrown again doesn't change the fact it wasn't accurate to history nor has it ever been because apples don't just give you dreams of God hood, nor would George Washington the man who only wanted to serve as president one time to avoid becoming a king, the man who said don't make voting parties, the main man known for the American revolution to king British and it's royal control out, would want to be king, at all.
Black man here. It’s the tokenism. Not the historical inaccuracy. I’m tired of woke shit in video games when these companies never gave a damn about me. Just my money. It’s 2024 and most major game companies been doing stuff like this. Every few years it gets more extreme and noticeable.
Even if he was a samurai and they were trying to be accurate to history, he was NOT a battlefield badass with long dreads and rocking a beard like he just pulled out of his barber in medieval Japan. He would've gotten disgraced for rocking that hairstyle as a samurai.
@@naur8479 even if its the standard, that doesnt mean that people are gonna be able to afford it. Especially if you want the gold($110) or ultimate($130) edition.
They want us to belive that a Black man who was only in Japan because Oda Nobunaga was interested him and got him from a merchant is a protagonist for the Japan game about assassins, who are all about not standing out.
@justinn8541 except the Japanese women is doing the stealth stuff. And crossbows existed before the Crusades. Your bad faith arguments aren't impressing anyone.
Don't forget that this controversy also helps them cover up their awful monetization scheme that not many people talk about, 130$ for the complete game is not something i ever wanted to see in my lifetime yet here we are.
@@GiggaGMikeE Mainly because all historical characters in the storylines have been side characters. While it isn't a huge deal to me, it kinda breaks the AC code to have a historical protagonist in the game.
Big agreed! Would’ve been insane if we had to fight him while trying to assassinate Oda. He may not have been a samurai per day but he was a warrior that was loyal to Oda
It’s not about historical accuracy, it’s about cultural accuracy. All other Assassins we played as was represented of the culture their story was set in. So was a lot of the mythology surrounding them. It was that way so that the player can get a more authentic experience in the life of someone from the time period and setting. So what better character to embody the culture of feudal Japan than the only black man from that history who spent his entire upbringing outside of Japan? Yeah… Origins should’ve had a ginger main character who recently moved to Egypt because why not?
I'll make sure to remember this fact next time I play Valhalla, the game where a person from one culture goes to a land of a different culture, and we experience the cultures clash. from the trailer, it looks like Ubi's version of Yasuke was in enough with the Japanese to understand their culture. Nobody has ever complained about the historical and cultural accuracy of any assassins creed game until this one. judge it on what really matters, the gameplay, the price, the story. also realize that there is in fact a Japanese protagonist who we will experience the Japanese viewpoint from.
@loganbrown7868 The culture clashes with Valhalla felt real under the context of all the fictional stuff being done in the shadows where one could hide oneself among myth and rumor. With Yasuke, it's trying to make a known trophy retainer involved in a giant Assassin's Creed plot in a country where Yasuke could literally not do anything huge without it being a huge deal. All the fiction in Assassin's creed is covered up in conspiracy and myth. They are choosing a character who literally could not participate in conspiracy given his situation. But most importantly, they are picking a black character in Japan instead of a Black character in a cool South African setting just to cause controversy, to distract the real issues with their horrible prices, horrible stories, and horrible business practices in general.
Technically there is no real historical evidence that Kunoichi existed, and it's more of a pop-culture term. Not that I'm saying there's anything wrong with it, AC has never been particularly historically accurate.
@@lj_aderyn Kunoichi are proven to exist though. The wife of Mochizuki Moritoki founded the Kunoichi after he died in battle in 1561. I don't know why English wikipedia doesn't include that history, but German wikipedia does. They might not have used the term Kunoichi, but they are exactly what Kunoichi are in popular media
@@borderlands10 Let's ask Shogo, a Japanese CZcamsr whose content mainly is teaching about Japanese traditions, culture and history himself said that Yasuke was a samurai in a video he did 3 years ago tho lmao
While they did act like ninja in recruiting the loyal retainers and forming that web of Intel to find out the opening to attack, they had one task only. The weren't ok with assassinations (they announced their presence before attacking that manor) or had any higher plans other than avenging their master and surrendering to die. Maybe as a tangent? In the sense that they ask the order for help in tracking Kira Yoshinaka who may be a Templar but even there it's a stretch because they would view them as dishonorable and low lifes. Cool concept tho
@@supershinigami1 No, Assassin’s Creed fell off with Origins, arguably even Syndicate. I don’t care for the RPG mechanics, the shallow open world, the shitty repeatable fetch quest side missions, and the for honor type combat. It plays more like a fighting game than an assassin game nowadays.
@@supershinigami1 No, Assassin’s Creed fell off with Origins, arguably even Syndicate. I don’t care for the RPG mechanics, the shallow open world, the shitty repeatable fetch quest side missions, and the For Honor type combat. It plays more like a fighting game than an assassin game nowadays.
@@Sosuke_Aizen3859 Assassin's Creed has always been great and AC Origins, Odyssey and Valhalla are all great AC games too. It's fine that you're wrong about it, ok?
AC 1:Altar- Syrian AC 2 - Revelation: Ezio Italian AC 3 - Native American ( American Revelation war) AC : Black Flags / Edward: British Pirate AC Origins: Egyptian AC Valhalla: Viking (not assassin) AC Odyssey: Mercenary ( not assassin) AC Mirage: Iran AC: Shadows instead of a samurai that is Asian we get a black guy. Even though the main protagonist were fictional, Ubisoft decided to pander. They Could used Yasuke as a side mission or DLC. Or has his own game that has nothing to do with AC Series.
Except Yasuke was a real historical figure and apart of Japanese pop-culture. Seriously, you guys think you can mask your bigotry by pretending you want a Male Japanese main character is LAUGHABLE.
@@thisismobius well Ubisoft can A different game to have Yasauke not in assassins creed. Yasuke can have his own story that’s not AC Related. All there doing is pandering. Of all the games they have did there not doing the ethnicity of federal Japan. If they want a that ethnicity of that person do it in another continent.
Well , its not that Yasuke did not exist, it is more because AC protagonists up until now had been from the place the game took place in , Altaïr Was Syrian, Eltsio Italian ect. So people expected Japanese main characters on the sengoku period game. And although i think Yasuke would make a great side character (with the possibility for a few different interesting sidequests , sprinkled throughout the game) But , we know WHY they chose him , over an original character like, , pretty much every other protagonist in AC (cant recall if there was any historic person a protagonist or not before). To get funding from BlackRock and distract people from there shady businesses practise.
you play as king leonidas very briefly, like legit 5 minutes in the opening of oddyssey. but the protag has always been a fictional character that is from the cultural the game is set in.
@sageofsixpathskakashi3742 I only remember it because it's the first time in AC you play as a historical figure. Last game actually played through was black flag.
@@springheelzach812Valhalla's protag is a Nordic person in England, Revelations takes place in İstanbul yet you play as Ezio, Black Flag takes place in Caribbeans but the protagonist is Welsh. This is not the first time, this is just the first time people decided to care and we know why
Assassin's Creed was a lot more grounded back in the day. Yes they had aliens and crazy artifacts but that was the point. They were hidden from history. Then you have origins that just made you fight actual gods and let you ride unicorns and it had little to nothing to do with the creed or assassins. It's not being racist for wanting historical accuracy in a game that uses real history as its lore. I'm not going to buy it because of the skin thing, I just find the new stuff boring due to how fantasy it got. Reliving the past was a great idea but they turned it into a cash grab with very little plot. And I played Valhalla, which was awful.
While I understand not liking the fantasy elements, were the isu just supposed to stay in the background for 15 years??? At some point they have to start playing some substantial role in the series or else it would’ve genuinely been the same thing every game
If I recognize someone from history in these games I'm just like "Oh cool they made a gadget for me" I'm not setting here thinking they really made grappling hooks or hidden blades. Also never a good for someone who isn't sexist and racist to start with "I'm not sexist or racist" like bruh XD
Sooo saying that you're not something isn't good because... it means you are that something? So by that logic, if you EVER say you haven't done something, it means you've done it...
@@borderlands10no, it's because if they feel the need to specify that they aren't sexist or racist, it means they're probably about to say something sexist or racist
honestly the idea of playing the story of the first foreign samurai sounds cool as shit. They're gonna fuck it up, obviously, and it's gonna cost too much, but the idea is there
There are some more or less tame and adequate takes on this. Like some people dislike Yasuke being on a forefront of the story when there are plenty of legends far more significant then him from this time period. The only thing worth noting about him is the fact that he was an alien, unusual curiosity in a rather closed off country, and, well, black. But yet again, as long as people get a chance to meet those other legends, it's not that important. Second is more on point - you were never supposed to play as a historical person in AC cause you literally belong to a hidden order which is supposed to be unwritten. I can see that, but I doubt many people really care about that. It is a good thing to make people question themselves why they care and whether they have some racist tendencies or not. But yet again. Getting annoyed by the company's move made with clear intention of getting some brownie points doesn't make you racist. As long as you don't make... way too much of a deal out of it.
The reality is that we all know why Ubisoft decided to choose Yasuke and people are ignoring the issue being intend and how insulting it actually is. They didn’t choose him because his story is so interesting in a game setting. It’s because their advisers are filled up with American cultural theory. And when we look at modern gender and anti-racist theory, a Japanese man might as well be a white man. And there should be made a deal about that because it’s motivated by a racist and sexist mindset that furthermore sees black people as so inferior and eternal victims they have to be stuck in other cultures stories whenever possible while at the same time erasing actual black history. Because black people end up being the endless outsider and minority. They can’t make a game set in Africa during the times of Mansa Musa, a period of time people know so little about. No, we take the one black slave who got to fight in some battles in Japan a historical curiosity and make him the protagonist in our Japanese based game and the first black character on an AC cover. Because what an opportunity to tell another black story about a slave gaining freedom by impressing the foreign lords. Because that’s the only story black people are allowed to have in that worldview and it’s even better if it can replace the story of a Japanese man. But I guess we have to be fine with only playing black people in a Assassin’s Creed game if they were slaves before. Otherwise what would be their character, right? This decision only seems acceptable to people who are both ignorant to the untapped narrative potential of Africa and have completely bought into the racial view of the world created in the US and which companies like Ubisoft propagate. This is both insulting to the Japanese and African cultures and people don’t even realize it. It sure isn’t black empowerment or representation as it fundamentally erases one half of the Japanese culture and reinforces historically damaging narratives of black people as the eternal slave. It’s especially insane after Ubisoft actually gave us Zau (that they barely promoted), a game that explores African myth only to come out with this next.
@@WAR904 because create your character games would require a lot of work if you had complete freedom. hard work is something ubisoft is completely allergic to.
@@nekoluxuria7721 is that really necessary though? There are arguments for both customisable and default protagonists, I would not blame developers for choosing one over the other.
The thing that annoyed me with this was not the fact that there's a Black man in Japan. It's the fact that by all accounts, Yasuke should be a Templar. Oda Nobunaga really fits the Templar ideology and Yasuke was known to be very loyal to him. For good reasons, as Nobunaga was seen as a complete excentric for raising a Black man to the position of retainer. (which is different than samuraï, it was more like an advisor/member of the court of a Lord) There are records of Yasuke's loyalty, for when Nobunaga fell, he was the first to go find his son to protect him. But I feel that this story is just going to pit Yasuke against Nobunaga, which is a real shame when looking at their story.
From what I understand, thats moreso speculation. We dont really know what happened to him after Nobunaga's fall. Which, honestly, is a perfect place to set a fictional story in
@@Randomvideos3200 only problem is yasuke was on japan 3 years soooooo or its gonna be fully rushed or they gonna mess it up,i go with the second they always do it.
the tank was an actual thing da vinci drew. however just like the actual airglider it kinda doesn't work. turns out despite being a really good designer, he wasn't actually that much of a engineer.
You are either ignorant or lying in this video. People are pissed specifically because it is obvious tokenism, rather than have the actual representation of the country, as well as now all of a sudden deciding to choose to use a real life person as a protagonist, instead of someone made up as always. Not to mention, who has been complaining about the female character?
Judging by the trailer the story takes place during a time where Japan was opened up to foreigners and trading for the first time and will likely hinge on that as a plot line(as evident by the introduction to firearms). Having Yasuke, a foreigner, as one of the protagonist is honestly one of the best characters they could have used to introduce a new perspective during this time. It’s similar in a way to AC3 where instead of telling the story through an American patriot like everyone would expect, they chose to make a Native American and to emphasize heavily on their part in history. It’s not tokenism.
@@yodasans2923 It absolutely is Tokenism. 100% Tokenism. I wouldn't be surprised if we found out that the game wasn't green-lit until Ubisoft had a Diverse Character they could "legitimately" build this game around - and "Diverse" meant Non-White, Non-Asian Male. And when someone found the 480 page book based on two lines in a historical text that indicated that there was an African man who was part of the Court of a Japanese lord in 1580ish, BAM! There it was. And they're counting on people like you to give them legitimacy.
@@thatotherguy8138 AC series already sells like hotcakes, which is why it along with games like Call of Duty have ANUAL releases. They don't need "token" characters at all.
@@thatotherguy8138 Ah yes. The definition of Diversity: “non-Asian male” 😂 be real with yourself. You’re literally fabricating a scenario in your head just to get mad about on the internet. The sheer existence of Yasuke isn’t an attack on you, grow up and stop being such a snowflake…
its not the fact that the samurai is black and “not historically accurate”. its the fact that ubisoft has been trying desperately to fit “representation” in their games for 3 years now and im sick of it
I've seen more content of people complaining about people complaining about the black samurai guy than people actually complaining about the black samurai guy
I think it's more that the gaming and nerd community is sick of their always being a contingent of racists or sexists being complete dog heels, for all those elder gamers who remember and hated gamergate y'all know
@@ravenfal1496 The word 'ass' makes up three quarters of the word 'assassin,' by character count. It is 6 out of eight characters in the word. Therefore it is 75%. 6/8ths, or more accurately, 3/4ths is 75%.
(Doubt you read the comments) Couple issues though from what's being said. Ezio wasn't a real person, and neither were the other protagonists. They interacted with real people. To a degree, they remained faithful to what the people were documented to be like. Shadows, you're playing as a actual historical figure alongside a fictional one. When they're complaining about historical accuracy, the buildings aren't even japanese, the main character doesn't have a highly documented life, but people would ridicule you for not playing the character historically accurate. Say what you want about alleged racism, there is some truth to the whole idea of "historical accuracy" I'd be pretty mad too if you played as Napoleon running across middle eastern buildings, in Africa while fighting Stalin and the USSR in the year 2000 where everyone has the force. Edit: historical accuracy is more in reguards to the culture, behaviors, and structures of the times. Out of all the times they made a assassins creed game, shadows is the only time they hired a person that wasn't a historian of the place they're using. Anyways, the idea of a kunoichi is cool though, but Yosuke should have been just a side character. Edit 2: so before calling all gamers who are complaining about this game racist or sexist, should do more research. Edit 3: some people probably are racist or sexist, and thats sad, but most complaining arent
And historically accurate embodiment of Norse Gods And an assassin historically accurately moving so fast he’s practically teleporting. Of course. 100% about historical accuracy. Who needs originality or FUN or anything?
Ninja by all accounts were supposed to be assasins and spies, the last person I'm thinking is going to stab me to death as a Japanese warlord is probably a lady
The lady is fine. Yasuke is a bit strange as a protag, since he sticks out like sore thumb. As a DLC character or as a side character (possibly an ally or mini-boss if Oda Nobunaga is portrayed as a Templar), Yasuke would be fine.
@@mitch3613 unless I’m remembering wrong we never played as Leonardo da Vinci. He was not the/a protagonist, he was a part of the story but not the protagonist, the protagonist is always someone who the history books aka our history never heard of hence a nameless shadow in history who changed the world yet no one knows
If Yasuke was JUST an important NPC, there will be significantly less controversy. Looking at Japan's response, they don't like that he's a playable character too. Look at Usbisoft Japan and go to the trailer for Japan. Look at the dislikes and the comments if you don't believe me. There are 10 times more dislikes compared to likes for the Japanese trailer.
Yeah all the Japanese accounts that have westerners translated into Japanese saying how mad they are. A lot of them start with I’m from [insert western country here].
@@doomeyer Look at Usbisoft Japan and go to the trailer for Japan. Look at the dislikes and the comments if you don't believe me. There are 10 times more dislikes compared to likes for the Japanese trailer.
@@emanueleragazzi341 Look at Usbisoft Japan and go to the trailer for Japan. Look at the dislikes and the comments if you don't believe me. There are 10 times more dislikes compared to likes for the Japanese trailer.
You know what, I'll be the one to say it. If its okay to have a Yasuke to be the Main Character in a Japanese themed Assassin's Creed game, then let's go and have a European be the Main Character in a African themed Assassin's Creed game. Since we, those who don't believe Yasuke should be the MC, are so RACIST.
@anuraagkumar978 never my g. However, I have played a good majority of the AC games. The issue I believe most of have is the fact that we don't have any kind of issue with Yasuke, but it would of been better to just went with a Original Character like they've done before and not use him as a smoke screen to get more money out of a game that most likely will be broken. Since Yasuke doesn't have concrete evidence of his position under Oda, the writers for AC Shadows could have just had him be an important character, like how George Washington was a supportive character and DaVinci. The historical factual characters weren't that involved with the Assassin and Templar war like most people believe. I believe that using factual characters for historical fiction can only go so far, and the original AC game's understood that.
@nathanlopez2820 White Savior? I can see it tbh. But I don't think it'll fit unless the writer's did something like AC3 with you playing the villain before you play the true protagonist. You know what... maybe that would be a good idea. It could be like Origins where the true MC lives a tragedy and performs genuine atrocities for their beliefs. Hmm...
Its not about the historical accuracy, its the fact that theyd rather pick some guy who just happened to have black skin, about whom we basically know nothing about, instead of picking one of the many legendary warriors that people wanna see, who have well documented lives for pandering and tokenism
My issue is if they make the black guy be some morally superior being to an inferior Japan. Then I’ll call it offensive to Japanese history because now instead of it being the white savior, it is the black savior.
But in the old games those fantasy factors still maintained historical accuracy, their whole point was to enrich the Assassin's creed world building by making it like a conspiracy version of our world, the staff of eden was the reason why the catholic church had so much power and influence, napoleon had an apple of eden and used it to rise to power, it was all great because it still maintained the historical accuracy while adding elements to it, these new ac games just blatantly break historical accuracy for no reason
It's not about historical accuracy. It's because we've been conditioned to expect terrible products when companies preemptively create a way to attack their critics.
Yeah, let's all pretend they choose the one Black dude in Japanese History as an MC because it was just convenient in the story they wrote. He was chosen over any Japanese Character because he was black, and the western devs wanted to be woke.
Its called historical fiction. Taking historical characters, locations, and events, and putting a foctional twist on them which is something assasins creed as always done
They could have just made both playable characters native to the setting and stayed consistent, also not to be that guy but technically yaskue (sorry if I spelt it wrong) was not a samurai, also that’s not what I care about…THE GAME COSTS 130 dollars
The problem is that AC1 was set in the Holy Land (modern-day Israel, Palestine, and Syria), and Altair was Syrian. AC2 was set in Renaissance Italy, and Ezio was Italian. AC3 was set during the Revolutionary War, and Connor was half Native American, half British. Do we see a trend yet? I can keep going. The problem is that there are so many historical Japanese characters this could have been about. Instead, they are going with a story that has already been embellished to absurd levels. Yasuke was never a samurai. More importantly, why don't we get a game set in Africa based on African history. If they wanted to go with a black historical figure, why not the likes of King Shaka or Queen lKandake? So yeah. This is the hill I'm choosing. Not because of racism but against it. Because the representation of black history and mythology deserves better than to leach off another culture based on a caricature whose story is already just over blown romanticism. And let's not get started on the "female ninja sidekick" trope that has been done to death.
1. Nearly all historians agree that he was a samurai. 2. We had a game set in Africa, with an African main character. 3. She is literally a main character, not a sidekick; likely even more of a main character than Yasuke. The fact that you are so dismissive of her just because she's a woman is rather telling.
@AZDfox There is no historical evidence that Yasuke fought any battles. He was a novelty to Nobunaga. Ancient Egyptians weren't black. I'm not dismissing her because she is a woman, or at all for that matter. I am dismissing the trope, which I said.
@wajmgirl sigh.... You did read where I said I could go on, right? So, for AC4, we have Edward Kenway. A former Royal Navy privateer turned pirate during the GOLDEN AGE OF PIRACY set in a place where piracy flourished! Was Arno not french? Were Jacob and Evie not British? What about Bayek? Origins is set an ancient Egypt. I wonder where he is from? Then there's Alexios and Kassandra. I didn't play Odyssey, but I can guess where they are from. How about you? Again, I didn't play Valhalla, but you can see where this is going. Is that good enough for you? Do we need to get into those Chronicles games. India, China, and Russia? I'm willing to bet those characters followed a certain trend as well. Is there any other spin-off game I missed? Is this "cherry-picked" enough for you?
I just want them to represent ancient cultures accurately man. I have problem with the way the depicted the ancient greeks in odyssey. At least in the earlier games the people and cultures had much more accurate representations.
On Japanese Twitter, Yasuke was initially received with tolerance because people thought this game was just another typical portrayal of Japan made by an overseas company. Since this game is not as well-known in Japan as it is abroad, it was not seen as a significant issue. However, now that it is known that Yasuke was deliberately chosen as the protagonist and his exploits are being presented as historical fact, there has been a significant increase in opposition.
I miss when the writers were aware enough to not have magic be a thing in the series. then origins pulled some wizard hands out for no reason. remember when the precursors were just highly advanced prime humans? now they are wizards that somehow got toppled by furries and krillin using a non offensive move. remember when assassins creed made sure to demistify the gods, the artifacts of eden, every single bit of magic in the series because they were trying to make assassins creed a sci fi series? look how that went in odyssey and Valhalla. assassins creed is practically dead, if they are willing to completely retcon memories then it's the last straw for me to hold any hope for the series. them commpletely retconning memories means that they are more than willing to destroy anything that they have written before, their internal logic and lore just for the sake of it.
@@nekoluxuria7721 Ah yes. Nothing says scientifically grounded like Al Muhalim using the Kagebushin no Justu, or Arno using a lamp to summon a swarm of bats.
@@ravenfal1496 summoning bats I don't recall in unity, I it's probably the fire thing which woke up the bats. but the shadow clone jutsu you use was never a thing. al mualim even states it as such "Illusions, that's all this thing does. the red sea never parted, water never turned to wine, it was all illusions" and yes that is actually scientifically grounded. the brain can actually recieve pain reactions or negative stimuli that can affect the body, it's called a nocebo effect. the apple is a device that directly tampers with your brains. also if you wanted to be accurate and use naruto it's not the kagebunshin no jutsu it's just genjutsu.
I don't care about how history accurate it is. But I do care about how the franchise has been absolute garbage for years, just like everything Ubi does nowadays.
@@Circuroseim not saying its always the case but lately it feels like majority is forced inclusivity i mean there a are multiple black characters that come to my mind that feel completely natural and not as last moment addition for those sweet ESG points Demoman from TF2 Preston from fallout 4 Doomfist and Baptiste from Overwatch Chains from payday 2 Sylens from horizon zero dawn Coach and Rochelle from left 4 dead 2 I could go on
@@Circuroseif it turns out that the characters are well written and arent just look im of this and this gender or this and this ethnicity ill change my stance on the subject but as of now i feel like its gonna be another forced inclusivity in the likes of female custodians from wh 40k which adds nothing to further the narrative and its just a show of complacency culture of political correctness
I still don't think its a racism thing. No ine was mad that he was black. We just wanted japanese characters. We haven't played as that demographic in assassin's Creed.
@@funnysoupman69but there's no male protagonist for that demographic, you don't find it upsetting that we lost that representation? And for pandering reasons too
Honestly, it feels kimd of disingenuous that people are trying to make it seems as if it's racist to be upset about what they did with Shadows. When even the Japanese themselves are pissed because a gane starring their country and in particular their historical warrior class is focusing on a foreigner. Plus, AC was in the past at least generally accurate. Da Vinci obviously didn't actually create weapons for Ezzio but he was a real pufe famous inventor. Yasuke wasn't even an Ashigaru never mind a Samurai. Oda Nobunaga kept him around because he was basically used as a status symbol of how worldly Nobunaga was since he had this coal colored giant to show off to his guests.
Yea but let me ask something, the same people complain about the Nioh protagonist that was a REALperson and a white samurai? no they didn't Also a lot of japanese are angry because their historical warrior class are probably be portrait as the bad ones, and Japan together wit USA are famous for never recognizing that they are the bad ones from someone else POV
@@matheuspimentel5828 that's just asinine. Firstly, obviously the reaction is going to be different for something like Nioh because Nioh is a balls to the walls Souls-like that isn't supposed to be properly accurate at all. This is the same reason why the anime around Yasuke isn't complained about. Because the creators just found records of Yasuke's general existence and used that as a launching platform to tell a fun and fictional story. Again, Assassin's Creed IS supposed to at least have a certain level of accuracy. Also, as for the Japanese potentially being upset about the Samurai being bad guys. Frankly can you blame them? I'm gonna go ahead and assume you're making such statements because you're one of the people who think the modern generation of Japan should still get the full struggle session treatment over WW2. Which as an aside, is just tired, obsessive and kind of discriminatory at this point. A fitting example to compare with is Knights. I'm English and I absolutely adore both the proper history as well as the chivalric myths of Knights yet in the modern day it downright pisses me off that it's actively seen as wrong to depict Knights as anything other than sadistic rapists and pillagers. At some point, when a group in your history is being consistently slandered it feels like a personal attack.
@@UbermanPrime respected for what? He's a historical side character. The only reason he's even considered special at all is because of his being a different ethnicity during the Sengoku Jidai, which was borderline unheard of for the majority of Japan at the time.
@@kieranadamson3224the idea of Yasuke being a samurai comes from Japan. They’ve made in games and anime’s. There’s characters that are inspired by him, like that vampire samurai from Guilty Gear. This is not a western idea
"Assassin's Creed1 is historically accurate because there are no crossbows, ignore the flags of countries that don't even exist yet and the inclusion of weapons that won't exist for almost 7 centuries. They removed crossbows for accuracy and not balancing reasons."
Yasuke is a real person who has been fictionalized in alot of different media these games are for ppl who enjoy historical locations and people but it's not a recreation of any history in general
the games have always been set in history which is why i don't rly have a problem that they have yasuke cuz he was in history, they obviously take liberty with it cuz it is a game but it is still set in history and i want them to keep that cuz it is interesting
First : The African samurai is real . Second:Ubisoft is known to be unable to differentiate between the Historical & fantasy parts of their frachise. They make mistakes in the parts they claim to be Historical and the make ilogical plot points with their fantasy elements. (edit under here) Logical-gameplay leaps: a) The leap of faith how the fuck does that work? b) Why can the enemies not swim in multiple games?(probably hardware restirctions) c) Why do the Guards have the memory of a goldfish? d) Why do all the assasins wear an incriminating suspicious hoods and capes ??? e) Why did they fking cut their fingers up until A.C 2 . That is just stupid and a huge hint to their identity. f) How does the animus work when DNA has no connection to memory at all? Atleast use magic and souls instead of trying to make it sci-fi and make it sci-fail instead. g) When magic was almost non existent throught the series did they choose to add literal gods,beasts and spirits in A.C Origins and Odessey and Valhalla. H) Why do they keep milking a drained franchise when the new lore they produce degrades the whole story further??? Ok now for quick historical Inaccuracies: A.C.1 : Altair is Arab. Yet he understands the templars??? The templars are Frankish-Normands and German. They spoke High-german/frankish and latin. Where and when did he get trained to speak them??? A.C.2 : Why are the Templars still called templars in A.C2 when the original organization had disbanded since 1312. A.C odessey : How come and they made Ancient Greeks looks like middle easterners or even Gypsies? Greeks are indeed mediterrainians but they do not tan to the point you see them in the game. Even in Krete where the Minoans had some tapestries with very dark tanned people the Majority of the tapestries show the people being predominantely White-not tanned. Alcibides was completely changed from his original depictions in his statues. They made him look like a woman. There are very few records that claim Alcibides was bisexual. The only record is a conversation of a party where he asked his teacher Socrates if he wanted to sleep with him and he got shot down. Other than that he was known to visit prostitutes daily and later impregnating the Queen of Sparta Timaea. and then Fleeing to Byzantium a colony of Athens where he married Hipparete. Women in ancient Greek militaries. Women NEVER took part in Greek militaries. Attacking-killing or raping women was seen as barbaric,beastly and monstrous and could lead to execution or torture. Example when the City of Argus was under siege in 495 by the Spartans of general Kleomenis. When the women took up arms to defend the walls Kleomenis instead ordered to disengage and return for it would be disrespecful and shameful to kill the women and children. If any soldier would hire or enslave a woman and take her as a heromeny(courtesan) had to be able to provide her with all the bare necessities. The depictions of the fights in A.C odessey : They are a clownfest of untrained and uncivilized brawls exactly the opposite of what the trained and disciplined Hoplites and hellenic soldiers would do. The mysthotos-mercanery system : Complete bullshit. Mercenaries where never allowed to take part in the army of any city unless they where born in it or lived in it. Fighting for your city-state was fighting for your land,family and Honour not money. The overly LGBTQ+ fanfiction setting. The assertive and passive system is also baseless. This system is based on assumptions of British and American researchers with no suffiecient data. Watch Metatrons video on ancient Greece and homosexuality. Contrary to popular belief ancient Greece was not a homosexual-sexfest. Homosexuality was tolerated and not punished but it was still admonished and frowned upon, not to mention ridiculed. Watch Metatron's video for a great summary. Ancient Greek 2 handed weapons. Ancient Greeks did not use 2 handed weapons expect spears and bows. No flails no,Greatswords or Great axes nothing. All ancient Greek soldiers trained in the spear,shield and a back up-secondary weapon mostly being a sword, with few single hand axes,warhammers and maces. Wide swings and attacks that would break a tight formation or increase the risk of danger to you or your allies where banned in ancient Greek combat. Similar to the romans they focused on thrusting which is easier to train and master while also being more difficult to block and fight against. For the rest of the games I am not that knowledgeable and this comment is long enough so I will end this here.
I'm not mad because one of the main characters is what are the most hyper fictionalized historical figures in recent time I'm upset because of the 130 price tag it's the Japanese people that are mad about him being black I mean check the Japanese trailer
its not about accuracy, its about forcing ideologies where noone wants them. we had black protagonist before and no one was making fuss about it because time peroids and place was fitting.
Yup, though to be fair, this one was a real guy, and was in Japan for a while, so in that regards it is maybe fitting. Though the tokenism is still so blatant
@@christophermonteith2774 Get your point, but not really. The real yasuke was a slave and retainer for his lord. never had samurai training whatsoever, and there is also the argument that ac has never used actual historical figures for main characters before, and they're doing it now to try and justify their pandering
Judging by the trailer the story takes place during a time where Japan was opened up to foreigners and trading for the first time and will likely hinge on that as a plot line(as evident by the introduction to firearms). Having Yasuke, a foreigner, as one of the protagonist is honestly one of the best characters they could have used to introduce a new perspective during this time. It’s similar in a way to AC3 where instead of telling the story through an American patriot like everyone would expect, they chose to make a Native American and to emphasize heavily on their part in history
Dude, every time a black character shows up in a video game, somehow it’s “forcing ideologies”. What ideology is that, exactly? Having more black characters or more female characters in medias where there weren’t many isn’t any “forced” ideology, you goober. It’s just a bunch of angry basement dwellers who have found something to be angry about since 2015, because blatant bigotry is no longer acceptable. Gamers btw, have always been been like this way. When the first metroid launched and Samus was revealed to be a woman, there was a huge controversy. It’s where the nerdy virgin geek stereotype stems from.
@Nova11435 Yes yes he was a retainer and they can't confirm his level in the samurai castle, Historians have speculated that he was already a free man and was a body guard to the missionary group well before japan,and was Commissioned back in india,remember slavery in the world Was a Different closer to indentured servitude to rather than how the west used slavery,and he was granted the same honors as a samurai as well as time in combat,so he was a VIP cause of his rarity,remember the former sandle holder of Nobunaga later became his Retainer as well as the one to unite Japan years after his master's passing
Are yall serious? Idk about the female ninjas but yall do k ow that the main character is based off a real person that was a black samurai. Him being a black samurai is historically accurate in a video game about gods and magic and computers
Let's not forget where some random character from Final Fantasy shows up in the middle Egypt and randomly teleports, I remember being taught that in 4th grade
He was a ACTUAL person be he was also a ACTUAL slave and was a ACTUAL retainer but never samurai Anyone saying there wasn’t female ninja is idiot but Yasuke was never a samurai then black samurai concept was a fictitious fantasy created by Japanese writers based on the historical writings that were true that involved Yasuke. It’s like how King Arthur was a real dude but none of the legends about him were real it was all fanfic stuff authors made up
@zerogoodcontent7293 notice I said person. Not samurai. I'm aware. However, he has become a big part of Japanese folklore. Either way, getting people getting angry over the game is ridiculous.
@@secretworldcomics people are angry that the assassin Creed in Japan game that everyone has been wanting for a long time has a protagonist who is NOT Japanese, isn’t a actual samurai and historically was a slave. Not to mention he is an actual historical figure which no previous assassin Creed protagonist has been. Ubisoft picked Yasuke cause he’s the one black guy in Japanese history that was semi famous and used it as a excuse to not make another Japanese protagonist, the characters in a assassins Creed game should represent the people living in that country of the time and they had being doing so for every previous game
@zerogoodcontent7293 You can play as Naoe. A literal japanese shinobi. And before you say anything, yes. There were female shinobi. And so what? I think it shows that they clearly have a bold idea. If they were the soulless corporation only out for money that everyone claims they are, they would've just thrown out this game 8 years ago and had it be with a generic samurai. But the fact that they are doing something unexpected and unorthodox indicates that they clearly have a unique vision. Plus it's good that it'll stand out from a game like Ghost of Tsushima or Rise of the Ronin.
@@secretworldcomics I know there were Kunoichi I’m not a idiot I’m not complaining about a female assassin/ninja it be stupid to do so because it was a historical fact they existed. “Bold idea” pushing a agenda and taking away from the opportunity to make a Japanese assassin Creed game without any agenda BS would of been the bold idea not just taking the one enslaved black guy in Japanese and pushing him too the front stage. Been unorthodox doesn’t mean anything good it just means into not conventional and being unconventional isn’t inherently good bad or anything but it is in this case done purely to push a agenda. If Assassin’s Creed wants to stand out from other other Japanese popular games, then write better, have better gameplay and make characters that are great. Ghost of Tsushima, the protagonist is a representation of the storm that wiped out the Mongolians and is a deconstruction of the honour the samurai followed Haven’t played Rise of Ronin so I can’t comment much on that game So if Ubisoft wants to stand out then they can do so without using cheap tricks or agenda pushing or any kind
Because Ninja often used to avoid confrontations and fights ESPECIALLY against samurais... That's why they were known for being SILENT and "INVISIBLE".
The thing is, while Yasuke was a real person, he also more or less completely vanishes from the historical record after the fall of Oda Nobunaga, which id think, would be the PERFECT time to set your fictional story in
Their one chance to represent the Japanese, and they choose a black man who (historically speaking) wasn't all that interesting. If that's racist to have a problem with that than I don't care, I (as a Native American) would feel insulted if they chose a white guy to represent us and this is no different.
It's not racist, it's western 'white guilt' and the blackwashing of everything with red hair and a pulse. Yeah, Yasuke is a cool character - but not someone I'd associate with this franchise
@@redninja3056 players are all dudes and a great majority of us like to play as a male protagonist. Ubisoft just don't want to acknowledge it. Would you have accepted to play as a white man in egypt but just because there's another female protag who's black you're not gonna complain. The kunoichi looks really ugly, real japanese woman are more beautifull than her
Assasin’s creed devs had a rule early on called “ the 10 second rule” it states that if a part of the game can’t be disproven within a 10 second search then its ok
@@Zolar92if you worked with the ruler of any country and had a near identical job to something else then why would you care if they’re called one or the other.
its not about being racist or sexist its about an ideology being shoved down our throats. i think its great that we have a kunoichi representing the stealth playstyle its accurate to the way that women would fight because straight up overpowering a man would be difficult for them. The big difference between the man being black isnt that hes black its just that hes black in japan. These are historically the most racist people and we both know that ubisoft doesnt have the balls to actual make the npcs of the game hate you just for being black. theyre going to water it down. Keep in mind no one cared that adawale was black, because it was set in the carribean it was realistic. But springboarding a single black dude that we know little about and most likely hyping up and calling people racist if they dont agree is literally a red herring
It’s so funny how they whine about no Japanese character when Naoe is RIGHT THERE. Now it’s canonically proven that she is the stealthiest assassin in the series she follows the “hide in plain sight” tenant to the fullest 😂😂😂😂
I’d wager a majority of people aren’t whiny that there isn’t a Japanese protagonist it’s that one of the two protagonists slots is being stolen from a actual Japanese character they could of created instead of forcing a insert of a minor historical figure who was not a samurai, but a slave forever to be under Nobunaga, Yasuke was renamed to Yasuke by Nobunaga and kept around he had no choice
@@zerogoodcontent7293Yasuke was given weapons and land, and actually tried to fight to avenge him when he died. He wasn’t a slave, he was an employee, one who apparently really liked his boss.
@@BLANK-pr5qs where is it said Yasuke was ever given land? All that is known factually is that he was brought to Japan, Nobunaga saw him found his skin colour strange and made a deal too keep Yasuke who he renamed too Yasuke yes that wasn’t his original name, then served for a roughly a year at most and the. nobunaga died and no other historical confirmed real historical mentions of him again. He was given a short blade aka he was a bodyguard which is one of the things a retainer can be and he was a slave, if you are forced to serve then you are a slave
@@zerogoodcontent7293 there’s a difference between a serf and a slave, and you’d have to be pretty fucking stupid to assign a man with a vested interested in your death as your bodyguard AND arm him while keeping him at your side.
It's not about historical accuracy. Never was. It's about telling a great story in which the characters and plot are compelling and not discounted by outside influences from the creator's personal beliefs. I had respect for his argument until he resorted to the classic gaslighting of you are an "ist" if you don't agree.
it's not about historical accuracy tbh. The characters themselves are not the problem, it's ubisoft who's forcing these characters just to chase the trend and play safe
People should be mad about the 100 dollar cost for a edition of the game
That’s my only complaint
“You hate AC Shadows cause you’re racist, I hate AC Shadows because it’s a Ubisoft game.” (Insert image of Gus Fring adjusting his tie)
This comment is especially hilarious because when i scrolled down, the next short was from jacobweeby about the same thing. That price tag is insane.
Facts
That's just how games are nowadays
Let's not forget that there's literally a word for a female ninja "Kunoichi"
Technically there is little to no real-life evidence of Kunoichi actually existing, and usually it is seen as a pop-culture term.
That said, maybe they were just REALLY good at their jobs.
Though funnily enough if the genders were reversed here it would be a bit more historically accurate. All historically known ninja were male, but there were in fact female warriors that fought alongside samurai called the Onna-Musha.
That said, historical accuracy has never been a forefront of AC games, so it doesn't particularly matter.
@@lj_aderyn They existed, they were also Shinobi.
@@shadowsonicsilver6 again, they might have. But there is no historical evidence of them existing. Kunoichi has only ever been used to describe female shinobi in pop-culture.
They definitely could have existed. But there are no records of them unlike many male shinobi.
To be fair, most women assassins during feudal japan usually wore just default ass kimono's and japanese peasant attires etc to blend in with the crowd. And most assassinations happened during the night and was actually bought by other rivaling Samurai clans to take out other important people due to jealousy, greed and power. Believe it or not, but the Samurai was not actually as morally good and nice people as you might think xdd, and still the women assassins wore just basic ass attire. Not fancy ass full black garb with shitton of shurikens, hoods, scarf that covered their face, and kunai's + a sword on the back.
But at the end of the day, it's not real. And if these types of games was fully realistic, it would be piss boring gameplay anyways. Imagine a gameplay of like the series Shogun. It's a good series and very historically accurate. But imagine that in a videogame, holy zzzzZZZZzzz
@@lj_aderynbro there is no evidence cause they didn’t leave any most countries arnt as sloppy as the USA Japan were slick enough for thei women fighters to go unnoticed also jus cause u haven’t found anything doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist I’m sorry to burst ur bubble but ur a nobody u not finding it isn’t proof it doesn’t exist all it proves is you couldn’t find anything why does men these days have to shit on the possibility a women can be capable most of you writing these can even fight to save your own lives now u wanna disrespect all women Japanese fighters u rlly think only men fought that’s delusional even during world war 1 when women were barely aloud out alone we had women fighters their rarer but they do exist hell France would probably still be under German control if a women didn’t lead the French resistance
There’s already a really good assassins Creed game set in Japan its called ghost of Tsushima
Game was mid at best
@@Kha1r_0 then how come it Won Game of the Year
@@garethalford682 so did baldurs gate, which was also ass.
@@garethalford682 and GOT never won, it was only nominated. 🤣🤣 lost horrendously to TLOU2.
@@Kha1r_0Maybe you just don’t like fantasy rpg games?
In my personal opinion
A woman ninja and a black samurai is not something we should be mad at. it is the cost of skins and the 100 cost for an edition of the game is something we actually can get mad at
Yup I haven't bought assassin's creed since they introduced micro transactions as I don't want to support that business model with a buyin.
@@NoOnesBCEyou can play the entire game without ever once entering the store, none of it is necessary to beat the game.
@@tommywright2487 I am well aware, but that does not excuse the practice, and gameplay is still affected.
Louder for the people at the back
Skins? You don’t need skins lol, but them if you want but all it does is give you the option. And the game price is standard for the gaming industry, 70$. The 100$ one includes DLC and other expansions. And don’t forget, this is Ubisoft. If the DLC is like Valhalla, the DLC is going to be as big as some of the older games.
Mfs really think Leonardo Da Vinci was making weapons for Ezio irl 💀
Ezio, Rotary Tank Commander Extraordinar.
People think ezio was real so yea…
I mean, he made a lot of shit irl
So in a fiction setting, it didn't phase me
Literally nobody thinks that, but Leonardo Da Vinci was still portrayed as accurately as possible along with his inventions like his flying machine and parachutes.
Leonardo Da Vinci did actually do a lot of weapon making in real life
I'm not racist, but still, AC Shadows sucks. They don't show any Shadow the Hedgehog. Not event Sonic. Wtf, Ubusoft
This is what I'm saying
Shadow the Hedgehod stans rise up!
Where tf is shadow
Lol
ROFL .. bro said game sucks without even watching gameplay .. let alone playing it and judging.
Wtf
No, it's not historically accurate to represent a retainer who was treated as a novelty to jab fun at, as a 'legendary samurai', let alone someone capable of social stealth in a land where their skin is the opposite color to everyone else.
Nice strawman, who did you get it from?
Good AC has always been about "What if this plot, behind all the historical accuracy"
The same crowd has been shitting on Odyssey's mythical monster fights, the giant wolf in Valhalla, the teleport murder powers in general, all along.
This is what happens when something is gatecrashed.
My favorite was the totally accurate George Washington
Oh you mean king 👑 George Washington 😂😂, good what if dlc
To be fair that was an optional DLC and it came out to be essentially a dream from apple that they both had from touching it
@@demnbrown again doesn't change the fact it wasn't accurate to history nor has it ever been because apples don't just give you dreams of God hood, nor would George Washington the man who only wanted to serve as president one time to avoid becoming a king, the man who said don't make voting parties, the main man known for the American revolution to king British and it's royal control out, would want to be king, at all.
@@Vladit0r that's kind of the purpose of a what if buddy it's not meant to be accurate or are you new to this
I know but it further proves that assasins creed never really aimed for completely historically accurate. It was just supposed to be fun.
When the video doesn't end with WTF, I'm like WTF
I think that's for us to say!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This is one hell of a loop lmao
The real WTF is the cyclical nature of trying to make racist and sexist gamers recognize they're racist and sexist.
@@BottomBunkArt true
Im a real gamer, i hate on ac shadows just to hate on Ubisoft
Real
Finally, a sane gamer
I respect this kind of hate lol
So you are just a sheep following the bandwagon? I don't think you are "cool" for hating Ubisoft my guy
It's a joke@@Jason-of4lf
Black man here. It’s the tokenism. Not the historical inaccuracy. I’m tired of woke shit in video games when these companies never gave a damn about me. Just my money. It’s 2024 and most major game companies been doing stuff like this. Every few years it gets more extreme and noticeable.
An assassin's creed game set in africa would be dope too bad they seem to think the setting is too uninteresting to sell
Even if he was a samurai and they were trying to be accurate to history, he was NOT a battlefield badass with long dreads and rocking a beard like he just pulled out of his barber in medieval Japan. He would've gotten disgraced for rocking that hairstyle as a samurai.
@@1232samOrigins was in Egypt, which is in Africa.
@FeiFongWang
Fr like where tf did he get the dreads from 💀
you are wasting your time, he drank the kool-aid already
What they’re counting on is you guys fighting over historical accuracy so you ignore their recent controversies and the ridiculous price tag
That is the plan, and dipshit conservatives make that incredibly easy.
Noone is buying it anyways.
It’s literally standard price? Like what 😭
@@naur8479 even if its the standard, that doesnt mean that people are gonna be able to afford it. Especially if you want the gold($110) or ultimate($130) edition.
We all know that we're all going Jack Sparrow on this one
Dont forget guys, Ubisoft always claimed they were historically accurate, they debunked themselves
They want us to belive that a Black man who was only in Japan because Oda Nobunaga was interested him and got him from a merchant is a protagonist for the Japan game about assassins, who are all about not standing out.
I’m sure they always claimed to be historically accurate with Kassandra from AC Odyssey being a female spartan warrior 💀
@@justinn8541 how are the crossbows in ac1 historically inaccurate?
@justinn8541 except the Japanese women is doing the stealth stuff. And crossbows existed before the Crusades.
Your bad faith arguments aren't impressing anyone.
@@alduinfr It wasn't a commonly used weapon until a few centuries after the first AC game was placed.
Don't forget that this controversy also helps them cover up their awful monetization scheme that not many people talk about, 130$ for the complete game is not something i ever wanted to see in my lifetime yet here we are.
It’s not 130 for the complete game. It’s 70$
Tbh, Yasuke should've been a side character
Why?
@@GiggaGMikeE Mainly because all historical characters in the storylines have been side characters. While it isn't a huge deal to me, it kinda breaks the AC code to have a historical protagonist in the game.
Fair, i think it's lowkey disrespectful to play him
@@BurntOutFiendwhy
Big agreed! Would’ve been insane if we had to fight him while trying to assassinate Oda. He may not have been a samurai per day but he was a warrior that was loyal to Oda
It’s not about historical accuracy, it’s about cultural accuracy. All other Assassins we played as was represented of the culture their story was set in. So was a lot of the mythology surrounding them. It was that way so that the player can get a more authentic experience in the life of someone from the time period and setting. So what better character to embody the culture of feudal Japan than the only black man from that history who spent his entire upbringing outside of Japan? Yeah… Origins should’ve had a ginger main character who recently moved to Egypt because why not?
Cry about it 😂
I'll make sure to remember this fact next time I play Valhalla, the game where a person from one culture goes to a land of a different culture, and we experience the cultures clash. from the trailer, it looks like Ubi's version of Yasuke was in enough with the Japanese to understand their culture. Nobody has ever complained about the historical and cultural accuracy of any assassins creed game until this one. judge it on what really matters, the gameplay, the price, the story. also realize that there is in fact a Japanese protagonist who we will experience the Japanese viewpoint from.
One of the main characters is literally Japanese
@loganbrown7868 The culture clashes with Valhalla felt real under the context of all the fictional stuff being done in the shadows where one could hide oneself among myth and rumor.
With Yasuke, it's trying to make a known trophy retainer involved in a giant Assassin's Creed plot in a country where Yasuke could literally not do anything huge without it being a huge deal.
All the fiction in Assassin's creed is covered up in conspiracy and myth. They are choosing a character who literally could not participate in conspiracy given his situation.
But most importantly, they are picking a black character in Japan instead of a Black character in a cool South African setting just to cause controversy, to distract the real issues with their horrible prices, horrible stories, and horrible business practices in general.
Good thing the assassin in the game is Japanese, then
Yosuke was a real person and there were female ninja (although rare) called kunoichi.
Technically there is no real historical evidence that Kunoichi existed, and it's more of a pop-culture term.
Not that I'm saying there's anything wrong with it, AC has never been particularly historically accurate.
@@lj_aderyn ah ok
@@lj_aderyn Kunoichi are proven to exist though. The wife of Mochizuki Moritoki founded the Kunoichi after he died in battle in 1561. I don't know why English wikipedia doesn't include that history, but German wikipedia does. They might not have used the term Kunoichi, but they are exactly what Kunoichi are in popular media
Yeah of course Yasuke existed, the entire argument is that he was never a samurai, and he wasn't.
@@borderlands10 Let's ask Shogo, a Japanese CZcamsr whose content mainly is teaching about Japanese traditions, culture and history himself said that Yasuke was a samurai in a video he did 3 years ago tho lmao
No lie i would have liked to play as one of the 47 ronin. They could have been part of the order
While they did act like ninja in recruiting the loyal retainers and forming that web of Intel to find out the opening to attack, they had one task only.
The weren't ok with assassinations (they announced their presence before attacking that manor) or had any higher plans other than avenging their master and surrendering to die.
Maybe as a tangent? In the sense that they ask the order for help in tracking Kira Yoshinaka who may be a Templar but even there it's a stretch because they would view them as dishonorable and low lifes. Cool concept tho
Ohhhhhh that’s a sick idea I love it
I really don’t care what color the character is, I just want assassin’s creed to be good again in general
I miss the good day where company cared for the ip's and the fans
it has always been good
@@supershinigami1 No, Assassin’s Creed fell off with Origins, arguably even Syndicate. I don’t care for the RPG mechanics, the shallow open world, the shitty repeatable fetch quest side missions, and the for honor type combat. It plays more like a fighting game than an assassin game nowadays.
@@supershinigami1 No, Assassin’s Creed fell off with Origins, arguably even Syndicate. I don’t care for the RPG mechanics, the shallow open world, the shitty repeatable fetch quest side missions, and the For Honor type combat. It plays more like a fighting game than an assassin game nowadays.
@@Sosuke_Aizen3859 Assassin's Creed has always been great and AC Origins, Odyssey and Valhalla are all great AC games too.
It's fine that you're wrong about it, ok?
AC 1:Altar- Syrian
AC 2 - Revelation: Ezio Italian
AC 3 - Native American ( American Revelation war)
AC : Black Flags / Edward: British Pirate
AC Origins: Egyptian
AC Valhalla: Viking (not assassin)
AC Odyssey: Mercenary ( not assassin)
AC Mirage: Iran
AC: Shadows instead of a samurai that is Asian we get a black guy. Even though the main protagonist were fictional, Ubisoft decided to pander.
They Could used Yasuke as a side mission or DLC. Or has his own game that has nothing to do with AC Series.
Except Yasuke was a real historical figure and apart of Japanese pop-culture. Seriously, you guys think you can mask your bigotry by pretending you want a Male Japanese main character is LAUGHABLE.
@@thisismobius🤓
@@thisismobius well Ubisoft can A different game to have Yasauke not in assassins creed.
Yasuke can have his own story that’s not AC Related. All there doing is pandering.
Of all the games they have did there not doing the ethnicity of federal Japan.
If they want a that ethnicity of that person do it in another continent.
@@thisismobiusbro he literally acknowledged he's a historical character, what are you talking about?
@@PatrickPatterson-cq9ni you know you can say that you're racist right? You don't have to write a long essay right?
You gonna regret this video once the apple of eden is discovered.
Sowwy... I ates it alweady... OwO
@@Nellie-Brooks ok cho'gath
Well , its not that Yasuke did not exist, it is more because AC protagonists up until now had been from the place the game took place in , Altaïr Was Syrian, Eltsio Italian ect. So people expected Japanese main characters on the sengoku period game.
And although i think Yasuke would make a great side character (with the possibility for a few different interesting sidequests , sprinkled throughout the game)
But , we know WHY they chose him , over an original character like, , pretty much every other protagonist in AC (cant recall if there was any historic person a protagonist or not before). To get funding from BlackRock and distract people from there shady businesses practise.
Exactly, but people are too busy with the strawman arguments to understand.
you play as king leonidas very briefly, like legit 5 minutes in the opening of oddyssey. but the protag has always been a fictional character that is from the cultural the game is set in.
@@springheelzach812 damn, my favorite AC was Odyssey and I forgot that. Props to you my guy
@sageofsixpathskakashi3742 I only remember it because it's the first time in AC you play as a historical figure. Last game actually played through was black flag.
@@springheelzach812Valhalla's protag is a Nordic person in England, Revelations takes place in İstanbul yet you play as Ezio, Black Flag takes place in Caribbeans but the protagonist is Welsh. This is not the first time, this is just the first time people decided to care and we know why
Jasuke and a kunoichi, that's it...
*AND LET'S NOT FORGET THE ABSURD PRICE*
imagine waiting to play AC game as ninja in feudal Japan for 10 year and mf just make you play as n1gg4 samurai
Assassin's Creed was a lot more grounded back in the day. Yes they had aliens and crazy artifacts but that was the point. They were hidden from history. Then you have origins that just made you fight actual gods and let you ride unicorns and it had little to nothing to do with the creed or assassins. It's not being racist for wanting historical accuracy in a game that uses real history as its lore. I'm not going to buy it because of the skin thing, I just find the new stuff boring due to how fantasy it got. Reliving the past was a great idea but they turned it into a cash grab with very little plot. And I played Valhalla, which was awful.
Agree they got to far to many excuses especially with mythological lens bs.
While I understand not liking the fantasy elements, were the isu just supposed to stay in the background for 15 years??? At some point they have to start playing some substantial role in the series or else it would’ve genuinely been the same thing every game
i don’t really care about the characters, as long as it’s more related to assassins creed than odyssey was
If I recognize someone from history in these games I'm just like "Oh cool they made a gadget for me" I'm not setting here thinking they really made grappling hooks or hidden blades. Also never a good for someone who isn't sexist and racist to start with "I'm not sexist or racist" like bruh XD
Sooo saying that you're not something isn't good because... it means you are that something? So by that logic, if you EVER say you haven't done something, it means you've done it...
@@borderlands10no, it's because if they feel the need to specify that they aren't sexist or racist, it means they're probably about to say something sexist or racist
@@funnysoupman69considering how *existing* is racist and sexist if you were born wrong, is it any surprise that kind of lingo has started popping up?
Are you racist or sexist?
@@contentlobby3824how is saying a race is inherently sexiest and racist for existing?
honestly the idea of playing the story of the first foreign samurai sounds cool as shit. They're gonna fuck it up, obviously, and it's gonna cost too much, but the idea is there
It isnt racist to say a game based around japan should feature a japanese samurai as one of the MAIN CHARACTERS
So like the ninja girl we'll actually play as ?
@@slynthehedgehog8061 she isn't a samurai.
One is Japanese. One is a samurai. Get over it
@@wajmgirl that's not what a Japanese samurai is.
@@eliaspanayi3465 yes he is
“Ahh shit! Somebody just got stabbed!”
“Who did it?”
“A dark guy.”
Huh. Wonder who that could be.
Exactly
He’s the tank character. He’s not gonna be assassinating people
Or, while everyone is distracted looking at the black samurai towering over them, the assassin kills her target and then blends into the crowd
The Shadow
There’s no evidence he ever fought battles. He was a glorified bodyguard.
There are some more or less tame and adequate takes on this. Like some people dislike Yasuke being on a forefront of the story when there are plenty of legends far more significant then him from this time period. The only thing worth noting about him is the fact that he was an alien, unusual curiosity in a rather closed off country, and, well, black. But yet again, as long as people get a chance to meet those other legends, it's not that important.
Second is more on point - you were never supposed to play as a historical person in AC cause you literally belong to a hidden order which is supposed to be unwritten. I can see that, but I doubt many people really care about that.
It is a good thing to make people question themselves why they care and whether they have some racist tendencies or not.
But yet again. Getting annoyed by the company's move made with clear intention of getting some
brownie points doesn't make you racist. As long as you don't make... way too much of a deal out of it.
By the logic of this short, you are now racist and exist. Enjoy your new life caring about the opinions of others.
I just don’t get why it wasn’t a create your character thing like fallout 4.
The reality is that we all know why Ubisoft decided to choose Yasuke and people are ignoring the issue being intend and how insulting it actually is. They didn’t choose him because his story is so interesting in a game setting. It’s because their advisers are filled up with American cultural theory. And when we look at modern gender and anti-racist theory, a Japanese man might as well be a white man. And there should be made a deal about that because it’s motivated by a racist and sexist mindset that furthermore sees black people as so inferior and eternal victims they have to be stuck in other cultures stories whenever possible while at the same time erasing actual black history. Because black people end up being the endless outsider and minority.
They can’t make a game set in Africa during the times of Mansa Musa, a period of time people know so little about. No, we take the one black slave who got to fight in some battles in Japan a historical curiosity and make him the protagonist in our Japanese based game and the first black character on an AC cover. Because what an opportunity to tell another black story about a slave gaining freedom by impressing the foreign lords. Because that’s the only story black people are allowed to have in that worldview and it’s even better if it can replace the story of a Japanese man. But I guess we have to be fine with only playing black people in a Assassin’s Creed game if they were slaves before. Otherwise what would be their character, right?
This decision only seems acceptable to people who are both ignorant to the untapped narrative potential of Africa and have completely bought into the racial view of the world created in the US and which companies like Ubisoft propagate. This is both insulting to the Japanese and African cultures and people don’t even realize it. It sure isn’t black empowerment or representation as it fundamentally erases one half of the Japanese culture and reinforces historically damaging narratives of black people as the eternal slave.
It’s especially insane after Ubisoft actually gave us Zau (that they barely promoted), a game that explores African myth only to come out with this next.
@@WAR904 because create your character games would require a lot of work if you had complete freedom. hard work is something ubisoft is completely allergic to.
@@nekoluxuria7721 is that really necessary though? There are arguments for both customisable and default protagonists, I would not blame developers for choosing one over the other.
The thing that annoyed me with this was not the fact that there's a Black man in Japan. It's the fact that by all accounts, Yasuke should be a Templar. Oda Nobunaga really fits the Templar ideology and Yasuke was known to be very loyal to him. For good reasons, as Nobunaga was seen as a complete excentric for raising a Black man to the position of retainer. (which is different than samuraï, it was more like an advisor/member of the court of a Lord)
There are records of Yasuke's loyalty, for when Nobunaga fell, he was the first to go find his son to protect him.
But I feel that this story is just going to pit Yasuke against Nobunaga, which is a real shame when looking at their story.
I wonder if they randomly gloss over the fact that Yaskue gets sold back into "servitude" when sent to Portugal
PORTUGAL CARALHO
I'm suddenly so upset
@@amalgama-dette1430 history is dark
From what I understand, thats moreso speculation. We dont really know what happened to him after Nobunaga's fall. Which, honestly, is a perfect place to set a fictional story in
@@Randomvideos3200 only problem is yasuke was on japan 3 years soooooo or its gonna be fully rushed or they gonna mess it up,i go with the second they always do it.
Don’t forget the historically accurate medieval tank from Brotherhood.
There was a real medevil tank design.
... I mean... it kinda was though
the tank was an actual thing da vinci drew. however just like the actual airglider it kinda doesn't work. turns out despite being a really good designer, he wasn't actually that much of a engineer.
You are either ignorant or lying in this video. People are pissed specifically because it is obvious tokenism, rather than have the actual representation of the country, as well as now all of a sudden deciding to choose to use a real life person as a protagonist, instead of someone made up as always. Not to mention, who has been complaining about the female character?
Judging by the trailer the story takes place during a time where Japan was opened up to foreigners and trading for the first time and will likely hinge on that as a plot line(as evident by the introduction to firearms). Having Yasuke, a foreigner, as one of the protagonist is honestly one of the best characters they could have used to introduce a new perspective during this time. It’s similar in a way to AC3 where instead of telling the story through an American patriot like everyone would expect, they chose to make a Native American and to emphasize heavily on their part in history. It’s not tokenism.
@@yodasans2923 It absolutely is Tokenism. 100% Tokenism. I wouldn't be surprised if we found out that the game wasn't green-lit until Ubisoft had a Diverse Character they could "legitimately" build this game around - and "Diverse" meant Non-White, Non-Asian Male. And when someone found the 480 page book based on two lines in a historical text that indicated that there was an African man who was part of the Court of a Japanese lord in 1580ish, BAM! There it was.
And they're counting on people like you to give them legitimacy.
@@thatotherguy8138 AC series already sells like hotcakes, which is why it along with games like Call of Duty have ANUAL releases. They don't need "token" characters at all.
@@thisismobius And yet... Yasuke.
@@thatotherguy8138 Ah yes. The definition of Diversity: “non-Asian male” 😂 be real with yourself. You’re literally fabricating a scenario in your head just to get mad about on the internet. The sheer existence of Yasuke isn’t an attack on you, grow up and stop being such a snowflake…
its not the fact that the samurai is black and “not historically accurate”. its the fact that ubisoft has been trying desperately to fit “representation” in their games for 3 years now and im sick of it
I've seen more content of people complaining about people complaining about the black samurai guy than people actually complaining about the black samurai guy
Sadly, your experiences are not universal
Same ,
Good.
Same I seen more people complaining about the price rather then the skin color
I think it's more that the gaming and nerd community is sick of their always being a contingent of racists or sexists being complete dog heels, for all those elder gamers who remember and hated gamergate y'all know
The word "assassin" is 75% "ass"
Actually, it's only 66% "ass".
@@ravenfal1496
The word 'ass' makes up three quarters of the word 'assassin,' by character count. It is 6 out of eight characters in the word.
Therefore it is 75%. 6/8ths, or more accurately, 3/4ths is 75%.
Ass ass in
@@obviouslykaleb7998
Brain fart on my part. I counted the 2nd "a" twice for some stupid reason.
Debunk “ass” only took 37%
But too “ass” took 75%
Wait the new protags are a samaurai and a ninja? BRO THIS GAME IS BOUTTA BE SO FUCKIN GOOD!
It's a historic fiction genre, The apple of Eden is the fiction part and the culture of Rome is the historic part
(Doubt you read the comments) Couple issues though from what's being said. Ezio wasn't a real person, and neither were the other protagonists. They interacted with real people. To a degree, they remained faithful to what the people were documented to be like. Shadows, you're playing as a actual historical figure alongside a fictional one. When they're complaining about historical accuracy, the buildings aren't even japanese, the main character doesn't have a highly documented life, but people would ridicule you for not playing the character historically accurate. Say what you want about alleged racism, there is some truth to the whole idea of "historical accuracy" I'd be pretty mad too if you played as Napoleon running across middle eastern buildings, in Africa while fighting Stalin and the USSR in the year 2000 where everyone has the force.
Edit: historical accuracy is more in reguards to the culture, behaviors, and structures of the times. Out of all the times they made a assassins creed game, shadows is the only time they hired a person that wasn't a historian of the place they're using. Anyways, the idea of a kunoichi is cool though, but Yosuke should have been just a side character.
Edit 2: so before calling all gamers who are complaining about this game racist or sexist, should do more research.
Edit 3: some people probably are racist or sexist, and thats sad, but most complaining arent
And historically accurate embodiment of Norse Gods
And an assassin historically accurately moving so fast he’s practically teleporting.
Of course. 100% about historical accuracy. Who needs originality or FUN or anything?
Right no one was racist and sexist when assains creed freedom cry came and suddenly everyone became racist expecting a Japanese in a Japanese game.
Literally female shinobi are MORE accaurate than male shinobi.
Ninja by all accounts were supposed to be assasins and spies, the last person I'm thinking is going to stab me to death as a Japanese warlord is probably a lady
The lady is fine. Yasuke is a bit strange as a protag, since he sticks out like sore thumb. As a DLC character or as a side character (possibly an ally or mini-boss if Oda Nobunaga is portrayed as a Templar), Yasuke would be fine.
@@Jw87563yeah because all the whiny white bits don’t like being “forced” into it
Also Yasuke is a real figure in Japanese history
Seriously. I didn’t hear anyone complain when he was in Nioh and Nioh 2
And women ninjas existed
He also wasn’t a samurai and assassin creed protagonists have never been historical figures of any kind
@@zerogoodcontent7293 leonardo da vinci was a real person and he was a protagonist is the ezio’s story
@@mitch3613 unless I’m remembering wrong we never played as Leonardo da Vinci. He was not the/a protagonist, he was a part of the story but not the protagonist, the protagonist is always someone who the history books aka our history never heard of hence a nameless shadow in history who changed the world yet no one knows
Ubisoft and AC claimed they were historically accurate in the past so stop protecting them.
The apple of eden isn’t magical. It’s just really advanced precursor technology.
If Yasuke was JUST an important NPC, there will be significantly less controversy. Looking at Japan's response, they don't like that he's a playable character too. Look at Usbisoft Japan and go to the trailer for Japan. Look at the dislikes and the comments if you don't believe me. There are 10 times more dislikes compared to likes for the Japanese trailer.
What you're talking about? Ac Shadow is Japan's third best pre-ordered game right now
That's literally not true. They are loving the announcement
Yeah all the Japanese accounts that have westerners translated into Japanese saying how mad they are. A lot of them start with I’m from [insert western country here].
@@doomeyer Look at Usbisoft Japan and go to the trailer for Japan. Look at the dislikes and the comments if you don't believe me. There are 10 times more dislikes compared to likes for the Japanese trailer.
@@emanueleragazzi341 Look at Usbisoft Japan and go to the trailer for Japan. Look at the dislikes and the comments if you don't believe me. There are 10 times more dislikes compared to likes for the Japanese trailer.
You know what, I'll be the one to say it. If its okay to have a Yasuke to be the Main Character in a Japanese themed Assassin's Creed game, then let's go and have a European be the Main Character in a African themed Assassin's Creed game. Since we, those who don't believe Yasuke should be the MC, are so RACIST.
Ever played far cry?
@anuraagkumar978 never my g. However, I have played a good majority of the AC games. The issue I believe most of have is the fact that we don't have any kind of issue with Yasuke, but it would of been better to just went with a Original Character like they've done before and not use him as a smoke screen to get more money out of a game that most likely will be broken. Since Yasuke doesn't have concrete evidence of his position under Oda, the writers for AC Shadows could have just had him be an important character, like how George Washington was a supportive character and DaVinci. The historical factual characters weren't that involved with the Assassin and Templar war like most people believe. I believe that using factual characters for historical fiction can only go so far, and the original AC game's understood that.
That would actually be nice. I would love to see a piece of media that does the opposite of the white savior trope, that’s not a bad idea.
@nathanlopez2820 White Savior? I can see it tbh. But I don't think it'll fit unless the writer's did something like AC3 with you playing the villain before you play the true protagonist. You know what... maybe that would be a good idea. It could be like Origins where the true MC lives a tragedy and performs genuine atrocities for their beliefs. Hmm...
@@anuraagkumar978 every country far cry takes place in is made up.
The black samurai guy was a real dude
Its not about the historical accuracy, its the fact that theyd rather pick some guy who just happened to have black skin, about whom we basically know nothing about, instead of picking one of the many legendary warriors that people wanna see, who have well documented lives for pandering and tokenism
And dont forget the historically accurate centuries long war between assassins and templars
Which IRL only lasted like a hundred years
@@D-F-T yes and wasn't fought all over the world only in syria
@thamolus you can't even spell historically
one piece in the background 😂😂😂
My issue is if they make the black guy be some morally superior being to an inferior Japan. Then I’ll call it offensive to Japanese history because now instead of it being the white savior, it is the black savior.
But in the old games those fantasy factors still maintained historical accuracy, their whole point was to enrich the Assassin's creed world building by making it like a conspiracy version of our world, the staff of eden was the reason why the catholic church had so much power and influence, napoleon had an apple of eden and used it to rise to power, it was all great because it still maintained the historical accuracy while adding elements to it, these new ac games just blatantly break historical accuracy for no reason
It's not about historical accuracy. It's because we've been conditioned to expect terrible products when companies preemptively create a way to attack their critics.
Ding ding ding
Yeah, let's all pretend they choose the one Black dude in Japanese History as an MC because it was just convenient in the story they wrote. He was chosen over any Japanese Character because he was black, and the western devs wanted to be woke.
Its called historical fiction. Taking historical characters, locations, and events, and putting a foctional twist on them which is something assasins creed as always done
a black man as a samurai and a woman as an assasins creed it doesnt make sense dude
They could have just made both playable characters native to the setting and stayed consistent, also not to be that guy but technically yaskue (sorry if I spelt it wrong) was not a samurai, also that’s not what I care about…THE GAME COSTS 130 dollars
The game costing 130 dollars is actually worth complaining about. What the fuck is that
Like Edward Kenway was native to the Caribbean?
@@magnusprime962 hes a pirate... they come from all over the place
@@GangrwastakenDamn bro good to see you instantly become a hypocrite as soon as your stupid logic is called out
@@Gangrwastakennot every retainer was japanese, nor was every pirate natively caribbean
The problem is that AC1 was set in the Holy Land (modern-day Israel, Palestine, and Syria), and Altair was Syrian.
AC2 was set in Renaissance Italy, and Ezio was Italian.
AC3 was set during the Revolutionary War, and Connor was half Native American, half British.
Do we see a trend yet? I can keep going. The problem is that there are so many historical Japanese characters this could have been about. Instead, they are going with a story that has already been embellished to absurd levels. Yasuke was never a samurai.
More importantly, why don't we get a game set in Africa based on African history. If they wanted to go with a black historical figure, why not the likes of King Shaka or Queen lKandake?
So yeah. This is the hill I'm choosing. Not because of racism but against it. Because the representation of black history and mythology deserves better than to leach off another culture based on a caricature whose story is already just over blown romanticism.
And let's not get started on the "female ninja sidekick" trope that has been done to death.
1. Nearly all historians agree that he was a samurai.
2. We had a game set in Africa, with an African main character.
3. She is literally a main character, not a sidekick; likely even more of a main character than Yasuke. The fact that you are so dismissive of her just because she's a woman is rather telling.
@AZDfox There is no historical evidence that Yasuke fought any battles. He was a novelty to Nobunaga.
Ancient Egyptians weren't black.
I'm not dismissing her because she is a woman, or at all for that matter. I am dismissing the trope, which I said.
@@c31l Why would the trope even be relevant? She's not a sidekick, so why mention it at all?
Love how you stop before the pirate one where it doesn’t happen. Enjoying your cherries?
@wajmgirl sigh.... You did read where I said I could go on, right? So, for AC4, we have Edward Kenway. A former Royal Navy privateer turned pirate during the GOLDEN AGE OF PIRACY set in a place where piracy flourished!
Was Arno not french?
Were Jacob and Evie not British?
What about Bayek? Origins is set an ancient Egypt. I wonder where he is from?
Then there's Alexios and Kassandra. I didn't play Odyssey, but I can guess where they are from. How about you?
Again, I didn't play Valhalla, but you can see where this is going.
Is that good enough for you? Do we need to get into those Chronicles games. India, China, and Russia? I'm willing to bet those characters followed a certain trend as well.
Is there any other spin-off game I missed? Is this "cherry-picked" enough for you?
I just want them to represent ancient cultures accurately man. I have problem with the way the depicted the ancient greeks in odyssey. At least in the earlier games the people and cultures had much more accurate representations.
Tbh saying there were no black Samurai’s might be the silliest thing I’ve heard
On Japanese Twitter, Yasuke was initially received with tolerance because people thought this game was just another typical portrayal of Japan made by an overseas company. Since this game is not as well-known in Japan as it is abroad, it was not seen as a significant issue. However, now that it is known that Yasuke was deliberately chosen as the protagonist and his exploits are being presented as historical fact, there has been a significant increase in opposition.
It's the #1 pre-ordered PS5 game in Japan
Not well known? Hahahahah
I miss when in assassins creed fought for the oppressed like in 3 and 4
Going from stuff like Freedom Cry to Odyssey ranting about how great Sparta is was...jarring.
I miss when the writers were aware enough to not have magic be a thing in the series.
then origins pulled some wizard hands out for no reason.
remember when the precursors were just highly advanced prime humans? now they are wizards that somehow got toppled by furries and krillin using a non offensive move.
remember when assassins creed made sure to demistify the gods, the artifacts of eden, every single bit of magic in the series because they were trying to make assassins creed a sci fi series? look how that went in odyssey and Valhalla.
assassins creed is practically dead, if they are willing to completely retcon memories then it's the last straw for me to hold any hope for the series. them commpletely retconning memories means that they are more than willing to destroy anything that they have written before, their internal logic and lore just for the sake of it.
@@nekoluxuria7721
Ah yes. Nothing says scientifically grounded like Al Muhalim using the Kagebushin no Justu, or Arno using a lamp to summon a swarm of bats.
@@ravenfal1496 summoning bats I don't recall in unity, I it's probably the fire thing which woke up the bats. but the shadow clone jutsu you use was never a thing. al mualim even states it as such "Illusions, that's all this thing does. the red sea never parted, water never turned to wine, it was all illusions" and yes that is actually scientifically grounded. the brain can actually recieve pain reactions or negative stimuli that can affect the body, it's called a nocebo effect. the apple is a device that directly tampers with your brains. also if you wanted to be accurate and use naruto it's not the kagebunshin no jutsu it's just genjutsu.
@@ravenfal1496 but yeah great way to show you never paid attention like the ideal ubisoft shill.
I don't care about how history accurate it is. But I do care about how the franchise has been absolute garbage for years, just like everything Ubi does nowadays.
remember when first assassins creed didnt had a crossbow because it wasnt historically accurate
I stopped caring about ass ass ins a long time ago. I just want to know how interesting the gameplay is
To be fair all of historical “inaccuracies” were there for more interesting gameplay and narrative this is just here for ESG score
When white: interesting gameplay
When black: EGS THE ILLUMINATI SWEET BABY WITH SATANIC FUND FROM THE CIA
@@Circuroseim not saying its always the case but lately it feels like majority is forced inclusivity i mean there a are multiple black characters that come to my mind that feel completely natural and not as last moment addition for those sweet ESG points
Demoman from TF2
Preston from fallout 4
Doomfist and Baptiste from Overwatch
Chains from payday 2
Sylens from horizon zero dawn
Coach and Rochelle from left 4 dead 2
I could go on
@@Circuroseif it turns out that the characters are well written and arent just look im of this and this gender or this and this ethnicity ill change my stance on the subject but as of now i feel like its gonna be another forced inclusivity in the likes of female custodians from wh 40k which adds nothing to further the narrative and its just a show of complacency culture of political correctness
@Circurose most of the white characters have in AC have been played in European lands.
This is just for egs score
Yeah, a black person that existed is egs score. Sure whatever I’m removing myself from this conversation.
There's a difference in bending the sequence of historical fiction and outright breaking the conventions of the time for clout
Agree, minus the glaring issue that these people were portrayed in their appropriate cultural context.
I still don't think its a racism thing. No ine was mad that he was black. We just wanted japanese characters.
We haven't played as that demographic in assassin's Creed.
THERE IS LITERALLY A JAPANESE WOMAN
Plenty of people are mad expressly because he's black, and there is a Japanese main character. Pull your head out of your ass.
There’s a fucking Japanese character. Everyone just forgets that
@@j.i.nthenobody54 I didn't know
@@funnysoupman69but there's no male protagonist for that demographic, you don't find it upsetting that we lost that representation? And for pandering reasons too
Honestly, it feels kimd of disingenuous that people are trying to make it seems as if it's racist to be upset about what they did with Shadows. When even the Japanese themselves are pissed because a gane starring their country and in particular their historical warrior class is focusing on a foreigner.
Plus, AC was in the past at least generally accurate. Da Vinci obviously didn't actually create weapons for Ezzio but he was a real pufe famous inventor. Yasuke wasn't even an Ashigaru never mind a Samurai. Oda Nobunaga kept him around because he was basically used as a status symbol of how worldly Nobunaga was since he had this coal colored giant to show off to his guests.
Yea but let me ask something, the same people complain about the Nioh protagonist that was a REALperson and a white samurai? no they didn't
Also a lot of japanese are angry because their historical warrior class are probably be portrait as the bad ones, and Japan together wit USA are famous for never recognizing that they are the bad ones from someone else POV
@@matheuspimentel5828 that's just asinine. Firstly, obviously the reaction is going to be different for something like Nioh because Nioh is a balls to the walls Souls-like that isn't supposed to be properly accurate at all. This is the same reason why the anime around Yasuke isn't complained about. Because the creators just found records of Yasuke's general existence and used that as a launching platform to tell a fun and fictional story. Again, Assassin's Creed IS supposed to at least have a certain level of accuracy.
Also, as for the Japanese potentially being upset about the Samurai being bad guys. Frankly can you blame them? I'm gonna go ahead and assume you're making such statements because you're one of the people who think the modern generation of Japan should still get the full struggle session treatment over WW2. Which as an aside, is just tired, obsessive and kind of discriminatory at this point. A fitting example to compare with is Knights. I'm English and I absolutely adore both the proper history as well as the chivalric myths of Knights yet in the modern day it downright pisses me off that it's actively seen as wrong to depict Knights as anything other than sadistic rapists and pillagers. At some point, when a group in your history is being consistently slandered it feels like a personal attack.
The Japanese being upset is a projection by western gamers pretending to be upset on their behalf. Yasuke is highly respected in Japanese culture.
@@UbermanPrime respected for what? He's a historical side character. The only reason he's even considered special at all is because of his being a different ethnicity during the Sengoku Jidai, which was borderline unheard of for the majority of Japan at the time.
@@kieranadamson3224the idea of Yasuke being a samurai comes from Japan. They’ve made in games and anime’s. There’s characters that are inspired by him, like that vampire samurai from Guilty Gear. This is not a western idea
"Assassin's Creed1 is historically accurate because there are no crossbows, ignore the flags of countries that don't even exist yet and the inclusion of weapons that won't exist for almost 7 centuries. They removed crossbows for accuracy and not balancing reasons."
Funnily enough crossbows did exist at the time and considering how the Brotherhood works it would make sense for Altair to have one.
Yasuke is a real person who has been fictionalized in alot of different media these games are for ppl who enjoy historical locations and people but it's not a recreation of any history in general
you don't buy new AC game because you are racist and sexist, i don't buy new AC game because it's a Ubisoft game.
WE ARE NOT THE SAME
People Glazing New Assasin Creed games like they are not even Assasin's Creed they are just random Ubisoft games with that name attached to it
the games have always been set in history which is why i don't rly have a problem that they have yasuke cuz he was in history, they obviously take liberty with it cuz it is a game but it is still set in history and i want them to keep that cuz it is interesting
First : The African samurai is real .
Second:Ubisoft is known to be unable to differentiate between the Historical & fantasy parts of their frachise. They make mistakes in the parts they claim to be Historical and the make ilogical plot points with their fantasy elements.
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Logical-gameplay leaps:
a) The leap of faith how the fuck does that work?
b) Why can the enemies not swim in multiple games?(probably hardware restirctions)
c) Why do the Guards have the memory of a goldfish?
d) Why do all the assasins wear an incriminating suspicious hoods and capes ???
e) Why did they fking cut their fingers up until A.C 2 . That is just stupid and a huge hint to their identity.
f) How does the animus work when DNA has no connection to memory at all? Atleast use magic and souls instead of trying to make it sci-fi and make it sci-fail instead.
g) When magic was almost non existent throught the series did they choose to add literal gods,beasts and spirits in A.C Origins and Odessey and Valhalla.
H) Why do they keep milking a drained franchise when the new lore they produce degrades the whole story further???
Ok now for quick historical Inaccuracies:
A.C.1 : Altair is Arab. Yet he understands the templars??? The templars are Frankish-Normands and German. They spoke High-german/frankish and latin. Where and when did he get trained to speak them???
A.C.2 : Why are the Templars still called templars in A.C2 when the original organization had disbanded since 1312.
A.C odessey : How come and they made Ancient Greeks looks like middle easterners or even Gypsies?
Greeks are indeed mediterrainians but they do not tan to the point you see them in the game.
Even in Krete where the Minoans had some tapestries with very dark tanned people the Majority of the tapestries show the people being predominantely White-not tanned.
Alcibides was completely changed from his original depictions in his statues. They made him look like a woman. There are very few records that claim Alcibides was bisexual. The only record is a conversation of a party where he asked his teacher Socrates if he wanted to sleep with him and he got shot down. Other than that he was known to visit prostitutes daily and later impregnating the Queen of Sparta Timaea. and then Fleeing to Byzantium a colony of Athens where he married Hipparete.
Women in ancient Greek militaries. Women NEVER took part in Greek militaries. Attacking-killing or raping women was seen as barbaric,beastly and monstrous and could lead to execution or torture. Example when the City of Argus was under siege in 495 by the Spartans of general Kleomenis. When the women took up arms to defend the walls Kleomenis instead ordered to disengage and return for it would be disrespecful and shameful to kill the women and children. If any soldier would hire or enslave a woman and take her as a heromeny(courtesan) had to be able to provide her with all the bare necessities.
The depictions of the fights in A.C odessey : They are a clownfest of untrained and uncivilized brawls exactly the opposite of what the trained and disciplined Hoplites and hellenic soldiers would do.
The mysthotos-mercanery system : Complete bullshit. Mercenaries where never allowed to take part in the army of any city unless they where born in it or lived in it. Fighting for your city-state was fighting for your land,family and Honour not money.
The overly LGBTQ+ fanfiction setting. The assertive and passive system is also baseless. This system is based on assumptions of British and American researchers with no suffiecient data. Watch Metatrons video on ancient Greece and homosexuality.
Contrary to popular belief ancient Greece was not a homosexual-sexfest. Homosexuality was tolerated and not punished but it was still admonished and frowned upon, not to mention ridiculed. Watch Metatron's video for a great summary.
Ancient Greek 2 handed weapons. Ancient Greeks did not use 2 handed weapons expect spears and bows. No flails no,Greatswords or Great axes nothing. All ancient Greek soldiers trained in the spear,shield and a back up-secondary weapon mostly being a sword, with few single hand axes,warhammers and maces.
Wide swings and attacks that would break a tight formation or increase the risk of danger to you or your allies where banned in ancient Greek combat. Similar to the romans they focused on thrusting which is easier to train and master while also being more difficult to block and fight against.
For the rest of the games I am not that knowledgeable and this comment is long enough so I will end this here.
I'm not mad because one of the main characters is what are the most hyper fictionalized historical figures in recent time
I'm upset because of the 130 price tag
it's the Japanese people that are mad about him being black I mean check the Japanese trailer
its not about accuracy, its about forcing ideologies where noone wants them. we had black protagonist before and no one was making fuss about it because time peroids and place was fitting.
Yup, though to be fair, this one was a real guy, and was in Japan for a while, so in that regards it is maybe fitting. Though the tokenism is still so blatant
@@christophermonteith2774 Get your point, but not really. The real yasuke was a slave and retainer for his lord. never had samurai training whatsoever, and there is also the argument that ac has never used actual historical figures for main characters before, and they're doing it now to try and justify their pandering
Judging by the trailer the story takes place during a time where Japan was opened up to foreigners and trading for the first time and will likely hinge on that as a plot line(as evident by the introduction to firearms). Having Yasuke, a foreigner, as one of the protagonist is honestly one of the best characters they could have used to introduce a new perspective during this time. It’s similar in a way to AC3 where instead of telling the story through an American patriot like everyone would expect, they chose to make a Native American and to emphasize heavily on their part in history
Dude, every time a black character shows up in a video game, somehow it’s “forcing ideologies”. What ideology is that, exactly? Having more black characters or more female characters in medias where there weren’t many isn’t any “forced” ideology, you goober. It’s just a bunch of angry basement dwellers who have found something to be angry about since 2015, because blatant bigotry is no longer acceptable.
Gamers btw, have always been been like this way. When the first metroid launched and Samus was revealed to be a woman, there was a huge controversy. It’s where the nerdy virgin geek stereotype stems from.
@Nova11435 Yes yes he was a retainer and they can't confirm his level in the samurai castle, Historians have speculated that he was already a free man and was a body guard to the missionary group well before japan,and was Commissioned back in india,remember slavery in the world Was a Different closer to indentured servitude to rather than how the west used slavery,and he was granted the same honors as a samurai as well as time in combat,so he was a VIP cause of his rarity,remember the former sandle holder of Nobunaga later became his Retainer as well as the one to unite Japan years after his master's passing
Are yall serious? Idk about the female ninjas but yall do k ow that the main character is based off a real person that was a black samurai. Him being a black samurai is historically accurate in a video game about gods and magic and computers
Let's not forget where some random character from Final Fantasy shows up in the middle Egypt and randomly teleports, I remember being taught that in 4th grade
Lol there were literally female Ninjas and Yasuka was an ACTUAL person
He was a ACTUAL person be he was also a ACTUAL slave and was a ACTUAL retainer but never samurai
Anyone saying there wasn’t female ninja is idiot but Yasuke was never a samurai then black samurai concept was a fictitious fantasy created by Japanese writers based on the historical writings that were true that involved Yasuke. It’s like how King Arthur was a real dude but none of the legends about him were real it was all fanfic stuff authors made up
@zerogoodcontent7293 notice I said person. Not samurai. I'm aware. However, he has become a big part of Japanese folklore. Either way, getting people getting angry over the game is ridiculous.
@@secretworldcomics people are angry that the assassin Creed in Japan game that everyone has been wanting for a long time has a protagonist who is NOT Japanese, isn’t a actual samurai and historically was a slave. Not to mention he is an actual historical figure which no previous assassin Creed protagonist has been. Ubisoft picked Yasuke cause he’s the one black guy in Japanese history that was semi famous and used it as a excuse to not make another Japanese protagonist, the characters in a assassins Creed game should represent the people living in that country of the time and they had being doing so for every previous game
@zerogoodcontent7293 You can play as Naoe. A literal japanese shinobi. And before you say anything, yes. There were female shinobi. And so what? I think it shows that they clearly have a bold idea. If they were the soulless corporation only out for money that everyone claims they are, they would've just thrown out this game 8 years ago and had it be with a generic samurai. But the fact that they are doing something unexpected and unorthodox indicates that they clearly have a unique vision. Plus it's good that it'll stand out from a game like Ghost of Tsushima or Rise of the Ronin.
@@secretworldcomics I know there were Kunoichi I’m not a idiot I’m not complaining about a female assassin/ninja it be stupid to do so because it was a historical fact they existed.
“Bold idea” pushing a agenda and taking away from the opportunity to make a Japanese assassin Creed game without any agenda BS would of been the bold idea not just taking the one enslaved black guy in Japanese and pushing him too the front stage. Been unorthodox doesn’t mean anything good it just means into not conventional and being unconventional isn’t inherently good bad or anything but it is in this case done purely to push a agenda.
If Assassin’s Creed wants to stand out from other other Japanese popular games, then write better, have better gameplay and make characters that are great.
Ghost of Tsushima, the protagonist is a representation of the storm that wiped out the Mongolians and is a deconstruction of the honour the samurai followed
Haven’t played Rise of Ronin so I can’t comment much on that game
So if Ubisoft wants to stand out then they can do so without using cheap tricks or agenda pushing or any kind
Asmongold said "A female Ninja is not beating a trained guy in a fist fight" in an assassin game ✋️😭
He's right, a female ninja isn't beating anyone in a fist fight because they're not trained to fight that way.
Because Ninja often used to avoid confrontations and fights ESPECIALLY against samurais...
That's why they were known for being SILENT and "INVISIBLE".
In real life, he's right, to be fair
He's right, but you've already failed somewhere if you are in a fist fight.
Dude doesn’t even know the basics of hygiene how can you trust him on anything more advanced than that.
I would respect these types of people if they actually said why they hate the game 😂
The thing is, while Yasuke was a real person, he also more or less completely vanishes from the historical record after the fall of Oda Nobunaga, which id think, would be the PERFECT time to set your fictional story in
Exactly. Plus, because no one kept many records about him, he has plenty of blank space in history to fight Templars
Your invited to all cookouts my friend.
Their one chance to represent the Japanese, and they choose a black man who (historically speaking) wasn't all that interesting. If that's racist to have a problem with that than I don't care, I (as a Native American) would feel insulted if they chose a white guy to represent us and this is no different.
It's not racist, it's western 'white guilt' and the blackwashing of everything with red hair and a pulse. Yeah, Yasuke is a cool character - but not someone I'd associate with this franchise
Completely ignoring the Japanese protagonist disproves your point immediately
@@redninja3056 players are all dudes and a great majority of us like to play as a male protagonist. Ubisoft just don't want to acknowledge it. Would you have accepted to play as a white man in egypt but just because there's another female protag who's black you're not gonna complain. The kunoichi looks really ugly, real japanese woman are more beautifull than her
@@redninja3056 the massive Like to Dislike ratio on the Japanese trailer completely refutes your claim instantly.
@Sukhonius the massive sales in Japan completely refutes your claim instantly
I don't think thinking this game is gonna be whack makes you racist or sexist.
Assasin’s creed devs had a rule early on called “ the 10 second rule” it states that if a part of the game can’t be disproven within a 10 second search then its ok
Racists and sexists can get bent but Ubisoft can get bent too with that price tag.
The black samurai was real btw
He wasn't a samurai
Didn't sn African brought Buddhism to China?.
@@andrewcruzsmith2343 Please tell me you're joking. If you aren't, it were monks from India and Central Asia who brought Buddhism to China.
@@Zolar92he was a retainer, and retainers got the samurai title, so he was a samurai
@@Zolar92if you worked with the ruler of any country and had a near identical job to something else then why would you care if they’re called one or the other.
None of the people who defend this would be saying this if we played a white guy in Africa
its not about being racist or sexist its about an ideology being shoved down our throats. i think its great that we have a kunoichi representing the stealth playstyle its accurate to the way that women would fight because straight up overpowering a man would be difficult for them. The big difference between the man being black isnt that hes black its just that hes black in japan. These are historically the most racist people and we both know that ubisoft doesnt have the balls to actual make the npcs of the game hate you just for being black. theyre going to water it down. Keep in mind no one cared that adawale was black, because it was set in the carribean it was realistic. But springboarding a single black dude that we know little about and most likely hyping up and calling people racist if they dont agree is literally a red herring
It’s so funny how they whine about no Japanese character when Naoe is RIGHT THERE. Now it’s canonically proven that she is the stealthiest assassin in the series she follows the “hide in plain sight” tenant to the fullest 😂😂😂😂
I’d wager a majority of people aren’t whiny that there isn’t a Japanese protagonist it’s that one of the two protagonists slots is being stolen from a actual Japanese character they could of created instead of forcing a insert of a minor historical figure who was not a samurai, but a slave forever to be under Nobunaga, Yasuke was renamed to Yasuke by Nobunaga and kept around he had no choice
@@zerogoodcontent7293Yasuke was given weapons and land, and actually tried to fight to avenge him when he died. He wasn’t a slave, he was an employee, one who apparently really liked his boss.
@@BLANK-pr5qs he also had no recorded fights and served for only a few months under Oda Nobunaga before being sold into servitude in Portugal
@@BLANK-pr5qs where is it said Yasuke was ever given land? All that is known factually is that he was brought to Japan, Nobunaga saw him found his skin colour strange and made a deal too keep Yasuke who he renamed too Yasuke yes that wasn’t his original name, then served for a roughly a year at most and the. nobunaga died and no other historical confirmed real historical mentions of him again.
He was given a short blade aka he was a bodyguard which is one of the things a retainer can be and he was a slave, if you are forced to serve then you are a slave
@@zerogoodcontent7293 there’s a difference between a serf and a slave, and you’d have to be pretty fucking stupid to assign a man with a vested interested in your death as your bodyguard AND arm him while keeping him at your side.
It's not about historical accuracy. Never was.
It's about telling a great story in which the characters and plot are compelling and not discounted by outside influences from the creator's personal beliefs.
I had respect for his argument until he resorted to the classic gaslighting of you are an "ist" if you don't agree.
And he absolutely looked nothing like he does in the trailer. The real Yasuke looked like a Haitian fry cook, not Nene from the NBA.
it's not about historical accuracy tbh. The characters themselves are not the problem, it's ubisoft who's forcing these characters just to chase the trend and play safe
I mean all of those points do make a lot of sense, cmon it’s Ubisoft they tend to milk the shit out of ac cuz of money
Not really because they criticize the smallest things but when it comes to the older nostalgic games there are exceptions
@@nahshonromans6917 true on that