Arctic P12 Max FDB: This is a great improvement over the original Max
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00:22 Specs
00:47 Case Simulation test explanation
02:19 Case Sim vs Control fan
04:17 Case Sim vs Other Fans Tested
05:56 Case Sim Noise Levels
07:15 Fan Sound / Noise
07:32 Cooler Testing vs Control
08:46 Cooler vs Other Fans
10:12 Cooler Noise vs Air Speed
11:26 Quick Design over view
13:05 CFM Testing
14:18 Value of the Fan
18:22 Raw Data
My vote is decibels as its easier for me to differentiate the fans with a lower slope.
Please include the TL-K12 in the cooler graphs!
Ill try to get my TL-K12 review out soon then.
Please vote if you havent on my pole. makes it easier for me to see what everyone prefers. :)
had 5 original maxes, different batches. Bearings were terrible, not lubed correctly and the clearance of the bearing bed to the axle was bad. Sold all of them. Original p12 is still a great fan tho. The double BB design was terrible at low rpm with subtle rpm changes. They knocked so hard while changing rpm. Had a new one that clicked after running for a while.
Thank you for letting us know about your experience. Kind of lines up with my thoughts.
Same experience with them, but arctic replaced them for me for the fdb version. Best company ever.
Do you have the data on the A12x25? It seems inconsistent across multiple videos using the New Testing Method.
ya for the most part the ones labled New Data are consistent. Then after the TL-S12 are consistent.
I had to calibrate the anemometer there and rerun a bunch of fans. It was only the cooler testing I found the errors.
The A12x25 most recent values in the cooler 20-100% pwm and last noise normalized
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1.1
1.4
1.6
1.8
2.0
2.2
2.35
1.625
Ignoring noise, which would you go with for 4x side fans on a Cooler Master HAF 932 for top-end, max RPM performance (or, let's say around 2500 to max RPM)? The P12 Max or the IceGale Xtra 120? I'm leaning towards the IceGales. Phanteks T30 (have them push/pull on a 360 rad), Silent Wings Pro 4, and Noctua iPPC (have 140 mm push/pull on a 140 rad) are out of the question because of price or else I would have probably just have gone with the T30s.
I currently use 4 of the Cougar Vortex CF-V12HP / CF-V12HPB. They're fantastic fans. Apparently, they somehow do 70 cfm at only 1500 RPM while also being almost inaudible. They cool great too with the side fans bringing my GPU, M.2, VRM, and RAM temps down anywhere from 10-20 degrees C however, ever since upgrading to 6x Phanteks T30 (push/pull) and 2x Noctua iPPC 140 (push/pull), I think I may need more airflow in order to keep positive pressure (to avoid dust and potential case hot spots). I'm not even sure of this - temps are all still fantastic - but considering the price of the P12 Max and IceGale Xtra 120, I figured, "why not?".
i would do the P12Max FDB. Basically just trust it more.
edit: that is quiet the air exchanger pc you have. lots of fans.
P12 ARGB vs P12 MAX should I upgrade? I have a 7800X3D and an Arctic Freezer 36
depends are you happy with the thermals and noise. If not get the P12Max FDB version. you will loose the RGB if you care.
@@computer-tech-more Actually I don't care about RGB. p12 max Will be noisier than the RGB one?
@@capipj at similar RPM's i found the Max with FDB quieter. but the Max will be louder at its maximum RPM.
@@computer-tech-more Thanks a lot! Youre awesome.
Здравствуйте. Скажите пожалуйста что будет лучше(сильнее воздушный поток) на 1200rpm. Обычный p12 pwm или p12max white?
at the same RPM their airflow is approximately the same. and strength of airflow
Sone is clearly superior with regards to differentiating the fans.
especially as things get noisier at the high end. The low end noises do look much closer together.
Hello!
I'm about to buy fans and I was thinking about buying the p12 max. Its 35 euro for 5 pack box. and white ones are 12 euro per fan.
When I check the arctic's website it says the black ones has the FDB aswell. or its just a lie?
even tho is it worth the give extra money for the white fdb ones?
So you want to be careful there might still be some ball bearing versions around but it looks like they will all be FDB going forward.
@@computer-tech-more I ordered 5 Pack of p12 max Black from the arctic's website. They came with the fluid dynamic bearing. At least it is saying on the box.
@@veinsx1956 good. the should be quieter at low RPMs than the DBB version.
Do fans exist with magnetic repulsion in place of bearings?
you mean maglev bearings? If yes then T30 have this kind of bearing
thank you for helping @uncrunch398 out.
fluid dynamic is basically the standard bearing for most good fans these days. Not very many fans use3 Magnetic Levitation bearings. I believe they cost more.
They call them Maglev fans in the PC fan space. Phanteks T30s are probably the best implementation of them so far. Seasonic's Magflow fans are maglev and also have pin to pad connectors for tidier cables, however they are limited to 1200rpm so they don't move much air and aren't much good on heatsinks or radiators, very quiet case fans though. Corsair ML series is another option but I think they stopped producing them. MagLev bearing certainly should provide a much longer lasting bearing but every Maglev bearing fan I have seen produces an awful loud pitch whining noise at lower RPMs. I'm sure there's a few others but in terms of noise FDB or Fluid Dynamic bearings seem to be king. Maglev can match them in Volume but FDBs are generally better due to noise frequency or pitch. The noise they make tends to be much more tolerable.
Stick with DB please
i think ill have both atleast for a while since it was almost 50/50 wanting each. for the cooler and the case test.