Asus Strix RTX 2080 Ti Memory Upgrade from 11GB to 22GB
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- čas přidán 18. 05. 2024
- In this video, we perform a significant upgrade on an Asus Strix RTX 2080 Ti, boosting its memory from 11 GB to 22 GB. Follow our detailed, step-by-step guide to see the entire process of upgrading your GPU's memory. At the end of the video, we conduct a stress test to ensure the upgraded GPU is stable and performs flawlessly. Don't miss this comprehensive tutorial and be sure to Like, Share, and Subscribe for more GPU repair and upgrade videos!
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Update on other GPUs for memory upgrades. I am currently working on a 3060 Ti to upgrade it to 16GB. Other 3000 series are work in progress. A BIOS edit would be required to double the memory on these GPUs. Once the 3060 Ti is completed a video with step by step process will be uploaded. RTX 4000 series cannot be upgraded as they all use 2GB modules and are the highest capacity modules produced to date. GPUs that can be upgraded are 3060Ti, 3070, 3080 10GB, 3080 12GB, and 3080 Ti from the 3000 lineup. The 3000 series is a work in progress starting with the 3060 Ti. Don't forget to subscribe and hit the bell to get notified when the video is released.
What is the price on that upgrade? U should simply make a video before after performance and compare performance to 4000 series.
Nvidia is not gonna like this guy 😂😂
😁
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql where is ur shop btw and is it possible to increase the 4070 super from 12gb to 16gb or 24gb
Let's hope they give us more vram on the rtx 5070 midrange,12gb is not going to cut it for anything over 400 dollars.
@@rhl2macwan simply not possible. The 4070 Super has a 192bit bus, aka 6 chips with 2GB (16GBit).
GDDR6 was also specificied with 24Gb chips (so 3GB), that would be 18GB, but these chips simply do not exist.
Same with 24GB ram, this would require 32GBit (4GB) chips, which simply do not exist (yet) or are not available for sale (there were rumours 2 years ago Samsung had such chips)
@@rhl2macwanBe cheaper to just sell it and buy a 16GB 4070ti super
bro really made 2080 Ti Super😂
Yes a Super indeed 😁. happy you have you onboard.
It's more of a Titan now
2080ti ultra instinct
This man over here breaking the mold
😁
I've been wanting to do this for my GPU for the longest time. I will use your video as reference. I started getting all the equipment I need for it.
Great. I wish you all the best. Remember never give up
What does upgrading the memory do for it?
@@vedob5163 I use it for stable diffusion image generation stuff, sometimes require a lot of vram to do certain things. The 2080ti is a very good card for it in terms of price/performance. And it undervolts very well, I'm running it at 150w. It as fast as a 4070 in terms of fp16 performance. You can do 16gb on a 3070 as well, slightly slower for SD work.
Thank you for sharing that info. Its really helpful specially for someone looking for options in the same workspace.
Practice on dead gpus first. Never a good one
had no idea this could be done!
Hope you like the video. 😁
Can this be done to a gtx 1070. Would it even be worth doing
@@williamclark206 no, just upgrade at that point
Thanks brother for doing upgrades for my gpu , so wait for next mod i have other things 😂upcoming . I hope this video becomes famous for everyone. Peace ✌️
Thank you for the opportunity. 😁
For anyone interested to upgrade the memory for gaming actually it’s not worth at all you will not get any benefit. So i did this mod to try if it’s worth for workstation stuff . Thanks 🙏
@@alialbeloshi5425It will offer better performance going from 8GB to 16GB, since you get worse performance when you have low VRAM because swapping into system RAM is slower and will tank performance, that's why the 16GB 4060 Ti is faster than 8GB 4060 Ti
@@iitzfizzfalse, it's not only a vram difference between the 8 and 16gb.
Texture rate and tmu is less on the 8gb than 16gb that's why there's a performance difference
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql i got two in nv-link if you wanna do it again lol
This is fantastic! Never new this solution could be applied to current cards. Well done mate! You have a new fan 👍🏾👍🏾
Thank you 😁. It means a lot to me.
nice video straight to the point good quality. subbed
Thank you. Happy to have you onboard. 😁
Chinese workshops have been repurposing the older GeForce RTX 2080 Ti by doubling its memory from 11GB to 22GB specifically for AI acceleration. All original 2080 Ti's use GDDR6 memory, slightly slower than the newer GDDR6X found in the RTX 3080. The 2080 Ti also has fewer CUDA cores, compared to the 3080. If you have a 2080 Ti and want to maximize its AI performance, upgrading to 22GB VRAM could be beneficial. For AI tasks, the 3080’s combination of faster memory and more CUDA cores makes it a strong contender. If you’re starting from scratch or have the option to choose between the two, the RTX 3080 is likely a better choice for AI workloads, primarily as It has a larger number of CUDA cores and faster boost clock, compared to the 2080 Ti.
Keep in mind, upgrading memory on any GPU does involve risk, all warranties are void and requires specific tools and expertise, as demonstrated here by someone who does.
Thats right. manufacturers warranty will be void.
Is only the 2080 ti good upgradeable or why this card specific?
No There are other GPU's too that can be upgraded. There are a few things to consider before upgrade. Memory slots available, Bus Width, Current memory module capacity, current support in BIOS, GPU performance etc. just to name a few. The maximum memory capacity modules availabe is 2Gb so only gpus using 1GB can be upgraded. Is there a BIOS already written so that there is driver support as well. Is the GPU performance good enough to utilise the aditional memory. Last but not the least, is the upgrade worth the money spent.
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7qlwhat about a 3080 upgrade? what would that look like?
Well done. Keep up the good work and vids! 👍
Thank You 😁. Thank you for being part of this channel.
damn that is a really is a great idea I would like to see a fallow up with the customer to see if the GPU is still stable over a long period of time other then that an amazing video.
You said you would look at other GPU to do as well if you would be so kind as to upgrade an older card like a 1080 or 1660 just so we all know it can be done.
your doing amazing work keep it up!
Thank you 😁. The user of this GPU has commented on this video. 1080 already uses the highest possible memory compatible with it GDDR5X. There is no upgrade path ahead. 1660 is barely able to exceed its current memory buffer. GPUs like 30 series can benefit from this upgrade.
So much skill. Very impressive.
Thank you 😁 Happy to have you onboard.
Very impressive! My question is: How did you know what to do ? From where? Could you tell more about "straps" ? What are they? For what? What are they doing? What exactly did you set to high. You are VERY VERY underrated. To change the chips is easy for you and all people who have to do with those kind of repairs but your knowlegde is much more interesting to me. In any case more knowledge than I have 🙂
All information about straps is available in the schematic of the GPU. It also mentions how the configuration should be. For example 1 stands for high and 0 stands for low and M strands for medium. 1 connects 100k resistor to 1.8v, for 0 the resistor is connected to ground. As you play around you will get the hang of it. Start reading schematics it's fun. It gives a lot of insights.
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql Thank you! I would never had thought that I would have to read the GPU schematics for a VRAM replacement :-) Even for more VRAM. I thought it would be a firmware thing :-) Thank you!
If it's in the schematic then it is in the BIOS and drivers as well.
thanks for the video, very nice technique too
Thank you 😁
was just looking for videos of this a few months ago :D love seeing these types of upgrades. Think you could do this on a laptop?
As of now I am not doing any repairs or upgrades on laptops. Maybe in the future I may.
Now is a 2x 2080 Ti- Ti 😀
Great video bro!
Thank you 😁
don't forget nvidias bullshit TI Super
This is fantastic!
Thank you 😁
I love what people like you can do. Such talent
Thank you 😁
Me gusto este contenido, nuevo subscriptor
Thank you 😃
First time on your channel...
What a wonderful upgrade...
I used to fix the motherboard using a hair dryer long ago not anymore 😂😂😂....
Watching you I was in a zone.. wow ... Keep uploading such wonderful videos...
Thanks and welcome 😁
Wow i am totally stunned,you are a Genius man this is awesome...........
Thank you 😁. It means a lot to me.
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql You deserve this and subcribed.........
Great content
No wishwash , right on point.
Thank you 😁
nice work
Thank you! Cheers!
I'm using an Infrared Cooker Plate (for cooking) and it's very good even for doing a GPU reball.
I wanted to buy a Puhui T8280 but I saw a video of a russian dude doing GPU reball with a IR cooking plate and I tried to do it myself.
It's very efficient for GPUs but not good with big PCB boards like ATX Motherboards because those need a big heating surface (the board flexes / wrap so bad when the temperature is not uniform on the whole board).
People find ways. I too started with ceramic plates and a controller..
T8280 has slow cool down and uniform heating. The cooking plate do not have these features. It will popcorn your pcb. You will also need a 600w or higher hot air station, preferably Atten ST-862D.
I remember the days using ceramic plates and I killed a lot of cores. Luckily they were mine so I have no regrets. But I learned a lot. Since then I moved to a 3 zone rework station and never looked back.
@@triafffii it's safe with GPU PCB boards when you know how to use it.
I've replaced a lot of Cores with it and I can say I have no problem anymore right know.
Of course I've toasted a lot of cores before mastering it but knowledge requires experience so I'm okay today.
But my goal is not the Puhui T8280 but at least an IR 6000 or higher.
Yes i agree. I still have my old modified gortak preheater with an external controller. Now a days its on the shelf retired. May be i will find some use of it again some day. I'm sure it still has its use case and the best suited when the 3 zone is too large for a job. I will make a video on it someday 😁.
Someday, I will be able to afford a PC again. Breaking ones neck and all really does hamper life. Nevertheless, I wanted to say thank you. It's wonderful to see all the work and efforts. To learn from you. I really appreciate you.
Thank you 😁
Hey man sorry that happened to you
Wishing you a good recovery
There’s always light at the end of the tunnel
Cheers
@Tekilafiend33 Thanks, mydude... this neck brace sucks... and my arm is stuck to my chest, but... I can game still, kinda. It's likely why I'm having a hard time. But I can still walk and everything. So, I really can't cry about it. Broken clavicle is healing well, too. So... and... insurance coverage is finally going to pay out my GPU, only I won't be able to M&K. I tried with my mouse close, but I just couldn't move it. So, controller it is. The game is getting more fun as I unlock stuff, too, so
You folks are super cool, mad respect, and I appreciate you both greatly.
@@justsomedude7042 glad to hear than man
I least from what I can tell, you’re taking it head on and with a great attitude
Take care brother and have a great day 😀
nice video bro
Thank you 😁
Great work Brother 👍👍👍
Thank you 😁
Maybe for an other Video.
Is it possible to double the VRAM on a RTX4090 or RX7900XTX?
And why is no Chip on M11?
As of now, RTX 4090 cannot be upgraded beyond 24GB of VRAM. Micron GDDR6X is only available in 2GB modules in 21Gbps and 24Gbps. Though it is possible to install 24Gbps modules (supported) to increase the bandwidth however the capacity cannot be increased.
The returns on investment in upgrading from 21Gbps to 24Gbps modules will be negligible and benefit minimal (It is a theory based on calculations and yet to be tested though.) If in the future I get my hands on a 4090 and a user is willing, I will put this to the test and measure the difference in performance.
If in the future Nvidia launches an RTX 4090 Ti or a 5090 it will be launched with the 24Gbps modules. (Speculation)
It's the same with 7900XT or XTX. 7900 XT and XTX use GDDR6 memory and the bandwidth of each module is 20Gbps. Samsung is sampling a 24Gbps memory but it is still sampled and not mass-produced. So for 7900 XT and XTX we are using the top possible memory.
I'd love to see the benchmark on this
I will include it in my next upgrade video.
This is art. Well done!!!!!
Thank you 😁
Awesome....I already get nervous when I have to wire up a bike 😂
😁
Very excellent.
I am curious, would this also work with K4ZAF325BM-HC16 memory? or must it be 14gbit memory chips?
It will work with K4ZAF325BM-HC16 also.
It should work but the firmware limits the maximum frequency and there's no practical way around this. Basically it'd let you overclock the memory as much as possible without any concern but stock chips can all typically handle a decent speed bump already so you really wouldn't get enough out of it to be worthwhile.
@@JJFX- more than just firmware (it can be modified) but also the core's imc must also be able to run at higher speeds to remain stable. At least as far as i know, unless you are able to change gearing or straps to allow different dividers / timing.
Very interesting. I wonder what would happen if you put a chip on the empty 12th pad and flashed an RTX Titan bios to the card?
Hmmm now that's something on the table. If I get another 2080 ti I will experiment.
If I was a betting man I'd put money on the cut down die being fused off, regardless if the entire core was functional or not. It's also possible that the GPU is hard coded and it would just refuse to run but it'd be an interesting experiment.
I just don't see Nvidia allowing this to happen but I'm surprised even the denser modules works on the same bios so who knows.
Very noice greetings from Poland!
Thank you and welcome onboard 😁
...amazing!!! You are magico 👍👍👍
Thank you 😁
I have been tempted to do the same. But BM-HC14 and BM-HC16 are expensive chips, being 2GB. Maybe if I come across some extra chips I wouldn't mind using on my 2080Ti I will. But I never get the chance. Fun video man! Good music btw!
Thank you brother. 😁
I am planning a similar upgrade on a 3060ti. What do you think? I have HC-16 memory which I would want to try. I'm wondering how this upgrade would stack this GPU against a 4060 ti
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql Why not go with D8BGX GDDR6X (the 21Gb version)? As you know, there are 3060Ti's in the wild with GDDR6X, like the one I have here waiting to be picked up.
However, given that 448.0 GB/s on the GDDR6 HC-14 (14 Gbps) vs 608.3 GB/s on GDDR6X (19 Gbps) version makes almost 0 difference in terms of performance, I highly doubt going from HC-14 to HC-16 would make sense.
But going to GDDR6X with higher speeds might make a difference. The only way to find out is to actually try it :) Though I do not know if even with the GDDR6X BIOS, the card will run at the higher speeds and actually run the card at 21Gbps on D8BGX GDDR6X 😕
The GDDR6X 3060Ti trace connection on the PCB are different. GDDR6X will not work work on GRRD6 PCB. pin out layout is different. Data pins layout is not the same.
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql Ah I did not know that! Since I use the same stencil for re-balling GDDR6 and GDDR6X. But the ball pinout having a different data layout is a deal breaker! But regarding your original idea, I think it would be a waste of VRAM, since GDDR6X has already been proven to make no performance difference against the Samsung HC14 chips, let alone HC16 which is still slower than GDDR6X D8BGW at 19Gbps. And HC16 is so expensive for me, I'm careful with it LOL
It's hard to say if it's worth it for gaming, ie, 12GB is close to recommended 16GB min, but I do remember a Hardware Unboxed vid where extra memory allowed the textures to full form, ie, not enough memory and they are rough blob renders. They even showed a GPU render properly when started, but after 20min it ran out of memory and the pic became worse. Basically it's the cost, like is the $300 swap ok for a 10% better appearance in games.
Thank you for sharing 😁. An upgrade like this for gaming will hardly make any difference except for those AAA games which require a bigger buffer to load textures. Unless you have specific needs for higher memory this upgrade will make little to no difference. You guys using higher memory GPUs are the best source to tell the community if it's worth it. Happy to have you onboard.
it benefit for VR gameing, because it need to render two same high resolution scene
I have not used VR. If you have used it then you are better equipped to answer this question and it will deffinitly help the community. Thank you for sharing 😁.
its for AI
What a wonderful upgrade ❤❤❤❤💪
Thank you 😁. Happy to have you onboard.
Hello Hello From Canada!!! I thought this was fascinating to watch and it was great how you explained everything so clearly as you went along. I was told that Ethereum mining benefits from the extra VRAM, but I think 3d modeling and rendering benefits the most, with the higher amount of VRAM, so if you have the pair of 2080Ti cards already then a double memory upgrade would be awesome for your productivity. I was curious what a modification like you demonstrated will costs to someone who wants to have the work done, if lets say they had a room full of 2080Tis? Thank you for sharing your incredible talents with us and I can't wait to see more episodes on your channel and what you do in the future. I hope you stay safe, stay healthy and are as happy as you can possibly be.
🤘😁👍
Thank you 😃. This upgrade would cost $220 per 2080Ti including the memory. On bulk orders of 10 or more there is a discount. Link for booking my services is in the description. There is another upgrade video coming soon.
so from gddr6x to regular gddr6?clock speed reduction but more capacity and loses memory temp sensor i think for me its not worthit if its for gaming only
RTX 2080Ti uses GDDR6. The upgrade is only capacity. Bandwidth is the same.
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql a yes its only gddr6 i thought it uses gddr6x but a few searches they actually start uses gddr6x on rtx 3070 ti thanks
Yes RTX 3070 Ti uses GDDR6X and the regular 3070 uses GDDR6. 😁
I would to have this done to a 3080, to go from 10GB to 20GB of VRAM. That would make a real 4K high settings gaming GPU out of one that never had enough VRAM from new. I have nothing close to the knowledge or skill to pull this off.
I hope you like this video 😁. Yes, you will require skills to replace memory. but skill is built over time with practice. If you start to practice (starting with dead boards) you will build the required skill over time.
yes that will help ray overdrive
Bro is about the Boeing treatment if he keeps on 🤣 great video
😁
You're right about the gaming part. I've never come close to maxing the 16gb in my 4080 and I play 4k max settings.
16Gb is a lot in gaming. 😁
This is just groundbreaking! Hats off to you for the amount of patience!!
Thank you 😁
Hi bro. Upgrade 22 gb. Performance going more better ?
Well the capacity has increased but not the bandwidth or the bus width. Games with high VRAM usages will benefit from it to load textures but how this will impact frames is yet untested.
youre very skilled at soldering, Respect
Thank you 😁
Came here to say that. God level soldering skill. I learnt a lot from you. Thank you 🫶
Good job, you made AMD RX-2080Ti.👍
Thanks! 😁
Wow the driver is just fine with a 22GB 2080Ti? I always heard these memory upgrades (like the 3070 16GB upgrade) resulted in a slightly confused/angry driver.
A 22GB 2080Ti is probably a great choice for Stable Diffusion etc. I know 3090 24GB cards are highly prized by people running these applications and can be quite expensive/hard to find despite being quite old now. A 2080Ti with a 22GB upgrade might be quite appealing, I know the price of 2080 cards has fallen quite a lot and is maybe only 20-30% slower than a 3090 in these applications.
Nvidia made these cards with plans to launch with high capacity memory but never released it. Maybe because of the lack of competition.
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql Very cool, definitely a worthwhile upgrade. I calculate theoretical FP16 performance to be 25% less than 3090 so maybe worth it, how much would you charge for an upgrade like this?
75 USD for the repair. Does not include memory.
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql Wow! Just $75 ? In Germany you wouldn´t be able to do that work for such a price. Our government steal more than the half of our money. They call it tax. Otherwise I would offer it too - and much more 😕
Hmmm. 50% in tax is a stretch. I hope they add a lot of value in terms of services to citizens.
getting a 3090 is still probably better, 2080ti with the chips would cost 450€ and if u get a 3090 for 600€ u have a newer card, pcie 4.0, gddr6x, 2gb more, 32bit bigger bus, better performance overall
Thank you for sharing. happy to have you onboard 😁
maybe not
Thank you for sharing your view though 😁
3090 went up in price last time I checked. 2080ti and 3080 have gone down. The 2080ti has much lower power draw, undervolts to 150w easily and still fast in stable diffusion. Priced could change a lot once next gen drops. I would do 2080ti if you were to run it for long sessions or go with 4000 series. 3090 is a good option too if you aren't too concerned about power usage. The repair guy games its possible on the 3080 as well.
@@oneanother1 why is there no video of an 3080 20gb?
That's a great update! But, what if you filled that last unoccupied spot for a memorychip the 2080ti normally has? Would it take take it and make 24GB? Or is that spot not wired to the GPU?
the unoccupied memory slot is disabled in the core. installing it would not work.
Thanks
you are genius
I was searching the internet and I noticed that the power of the GPU processor in the PlayStation 5 is the same as the RTX 2070, but the difference is the size of the memory.
I thought you could increase the memory size of the card
Now I saw the video and was sure :)
Thank you 😁. for the cost of upgrade and shipping, you can get a PS5. The cost of the upgrade would come to USD 185. For shipping you will have to contact your local postal service to find out the price of shipping to and from Dubai. Consider the overall cost before deciding and if you do decide You can book your repair at the link graphicscardrepairs.com/repair-request/
laptop vram memory is upgradable 4gb to 22gb
No that's not possible. It depends on the slots available. Laptop upgrades are also very complicated and I have not tried them.
hi could you repair my rtx 3090 I'm from ireland
Sure I can fix your GPU. You can book your repair by filling in the repair form below and follow the instructions. You will receive a case ID after you fill in the form.
graphicscardrepairs.com/repair-request/
I have received your booking.
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql i just booked the repair if you ever have time to make a video on what i have to do , or about the process, or if you have a video please post the link here
You will receive instructions by email. You will have to ship your GPU to the address mentioned in the email. I have not actioned the booking yet but it will be actioned in the morning. Just wait for the email. I will follow-up with your once your case is actioned
What brand thermal paste and thermal pad did you used ? thank you
The thermal pad used for this card in this video is in the link below.
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006011152799.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.pcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller.1.6f2859O459O405&gps-id=pcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller&scm=1007.40050.354490.0&scm_id=1007.40050.354490.0&scm-url=1007.40050.354490.0&pvid=a0b5f6e9-a0f0-4736-b5ce-2159ee35dff5&_t=gps-id:pcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller,scm-url:1007.40050.354490.0,pvid:a0b5f6e9-a0f0-4736-b5ce-2159ee35dff5,tpp_buckets:668%232846%238107%231934&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21AED%2127.09%2110.36%21%21%2151.94%2119.86%21%402101eac917161933944132007ee3b5%2112000035320865358%21rec%21AE%212049366122%21&utparam-url=scene%3ApcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller%7Cquery_from%3A
I also use another thermal pad which is very effective the link is below
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004622421120.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.pcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller.1.52373H023H02BB&gps-id=pcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller&scm=1007.40050.354490.0&scm_id=1007.40050.354490.0&scm-url=1007.40050.354490.0&pvid=f67aa7e1-32b2-4184-a97e-3837cf6bb4e4&_t=gps-id:pcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller,scm-url:1007.40050.354490.0,pvid:f67aa7e1-32b2-4184-a97e-3837cf6bb4e4,tpp_buckets:668%232846%238107%231934&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21AED%2119.30%219.65%21%21%2137.00%2118.50%21%402101eac917161932429688870ee3b5%2112000029866952013%21rec%21AE%212049366122%21&utparam-url=scene%3ApcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller%7Cquery_from%3A
Thermal Paste i use is MX4
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql thank you
Furmark 2 has a memory trainer In folder of files
Now I did not know that. I will play around with that. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with me. 😁
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql furmark 2 has a memory trainer , in the folder it says mem test / open in notepad change to 22gb and see if the chip can use it
Ok sounds good i will do that and update.
Someone just uploaded a vbios for the 3090 to support 48GB vram. This is getting crazy.
Interesting and tempting 😁
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql If Nvidia is not gonna give us decent cards, we'll do it ourselves :D
Absolutely.
@Powertampa Can you guide me to where that is please?
You rock man! What's the program's name you use in Linux (the one that prints a green 'Pass')? Thanks.
The name of the program is Mats and Mods.
If you would be interested in learning Electronics Repair i suggest you join the discord of Richard (Learn Electronics Repair). The link to join is discord.com/invite/vam6YC8vwU All schematics, and board view can be found here.
Thank you so much bro. ❤
For my RTX 3060 ti fix. ( fix error 43 ).
You're welcome. 😁
Im just an idiot who likes gaming, but double the VRAM spec is impressive man. I think in gaming its a huge boost if you stream on the same device which you game on , but on the other side you re missing the ai chips which will be the future as it looks? Idk man but anywho a awesome upgrade if its not that expensive and you have the knowledge for DIY 👌🏻 i‘d love to see performance review of that upgrade card vs normal 2080 ti. But awesome video man !
Thank you 😁
wow, I just found out that the memory can be upgraded, hehe.. Nice video
Thank you 😁
Amazing
Thank you 😁
Thank you for this video! Why was mem11 left open and not 12?
RTX 2080ti does not utilise the entire 102 die. That full die is used by the Titan. The memory that is not populated is disabled from the core. This is because of the yield of the die not meeting the requirement of the Titan. Those chips were made as 2080Ti. So installing a memory chip here will not work.
Graet work bro! this is now 2090 :D
Thank you 😁. Welcome onboard
just a question since I am new does this require diff drivers from original to use more vram in games or other tasks?
No it works with the same drivers for RTX 2080 Ti. no changes required.
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql thanks
It's amazing what you have done here, I was reading the coments and you say that reading the schematics you can lear what to change to do this ¿where can I find schematics for GPUs?, Thanks in advance from a new subscriber!!!
Thank you 😁 and happy to have you onboard. You join the discord of Richard (Learn Electronics Repair). The link to join is discord.com/invite/vam6YC8vwU All software, schematics, and boardview you can be found here.
Hello there. Such a fantastic job.well done. Can u change 1080Ti 11GB GDDR5 into GDDR6/X memory type?
Thank you 😁. 1080 ti is on the GDDR5X platform. This GPU used the maximum possible memory on that platform. The memory cannot be upgraded to GDDR6 or 6X.
Ive seen doubling the memory mods and higher bandwidth memories, what i am curious about is if it would be possible to upgrade a GDDR6 card to GDDR6X, pin to pin the memories are the same, and as an example the 3070 is GDDR6 but the 3070 ti is GDDR6X.
GDDR6 and GDDR6X have the data and command lines in different locations. It is not possible to do the swap on the same PCB. New redesigned PCB would be required.
Are there resources online showing what video cards people have been able to upgrade vram? I imagine there are some custom drivers out there to allow it on some cards but never thought about it till now.
There are no resources online. Videos like this which will show you what can be done or how to get it done.
Man, you have a lot of patience, i mean a LOT of patience. Holy f. 😁😁
Thank you 😁
Just discovered you channel gotta great job I’ve been thinking about learning how to do exactly what you just did thanks now my learning curve will be a lot smaller 😂. Also in terms of will it help with gaming yes it will depending on the card. But in most cases on in small increments like 4gb to 8gb not 4gb to 32gb while installing it is more than possible as you have showed us here. I would use it for budget cards or mid-tier cards and look at the different variations. So if I have a rx580 4gb you would definitely see a much better improvement but who wants a rx580at this moment right. Also going from the right 8gb card to 12gb or even 16gb if overlocked properly and depending how far off the cut down version is from the higher end version it would make sense for gaming but putting 32gb into a 1080ti wouldn’t make it 50% better performance but you would get some decent gains for the parts you can actually utilize. I think that if you have a dual pc setup as a streamer and a gamer this could also help if the gpu is utilizing it having other background things going shouldn’t have as much of a effect on game performance so if you out 64gb on a 4070tisuper(side not I hate gpu and cpu and motherboard naming schemes they suk and they make it boring for people to even want to converse about)……oh yeah
4070tisuper with 64gb will allow you to run all of the other programs you want will taking very little processing performance from you game. So yes in some ways it could benefit a lot for gamers if you pick the right card or if you use it to do more multitasking while your gaming it will reduce the hit that you take to your FPS while streaming having a lot of webpages open and especially paired with a power cpu and about 32 gb of system memory.
I’d like to see you do videos on these things I think it would be cool I also think depending on the gains it may also help others want to get further into modding systems making cheaper upgrades super cool brooooooooooo
Thank you for sharing. Happy to have you onboard 😁. Currently my setup is more for repairs and stability testing. however if there is interest i would be willing to setup one for benchmarking and comparisons. Lets see where the road takes me.
great vid masterful display of skill i was really intrested in seeing why this is done. be cause more memory doest always mean faster gpu. like amd recently showed with i think the refresh of the 7600 ? that card had a memory boost and only got like 3-6% increases in some instances msot being equal
more memory will not boot performance. Upgrading memory will give you smoother gameplay, less stuttering, and steady frames. On normal GPU the drop in frames is because of the overflow in the memory buffer where it starts to utilize the slower system RAM. This causes a drop in framerate. In productivity, i am not an expert but the upgrade would depend on your use case. some applications like larger memory capacity.
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql thnx for the info and you gained a subscriber 👍🏾
Thank you and welcome onboard. 😁
I think it's pretty impressive.
Although 22gb may be more than the core can utilise, better quality memory and more of it could make for easier OC and make playing games with larger texture packs easier since it wont be held back by VRAM.
I would love to see stock timespy vs this modded one. Maybe a few gaming benches to see what it can actually do. Stock vs this. Maybe see how well it can OC?
Thank you 😁. Both the 2080 Ti's are gone back to the user. but i have a 3060 Ti upgrade video coming soon. My setup is equipped for repairs however i will try to include some benchmarks.
Ai training its really useful to have more since it allows it to store more parameters.
Now for crypto mining, its around what 6gbs back when ether could be mined was around the sweet spot since it held enough space to hold what it needed to do, hence why all the old crypto cards having 6-8gb of vram.
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There was an unpopulated slot for memory does that mean that the board was design with more memory in mine? Can’t we use that to add more module as well? This mod would be extremely helpful to card like 3080 10gb which only drag down by it’s memory capacity.
I’m surprise to see that after replace it you don’t have to even flash custom bios, just a memory test and it’s good to go.
RTX 2080ti does not utilize the entire 102 die. That full die is used by the Titan. The memory that is not populated is disabled from the core. This is because of the yield of the die not meeting the requirement of the Titan. Those chips were made as 2080Ti. So installing a memory chip here will not work. the RTX 2080 Ti was designed with 22Gb in mind but never saw the light of day as it was never released. That's the reason no flash of BIOS or editing is required and its works with a memory swap.
It's the same with the RTX 3080 10 GB. The 2 unpopulated memory slots have the data lines disabled. Installing a memory there will not work. However, a 3080 can be upgraded to 20GB by swapping to 2GB modules and it can support up to 21Gbps with a straight swap and realigning the straps.
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql Oh I see I forgot there was a titan class card. thanks for the reply.
For understanding, you need also to flash the bios right?
No, you don't need to flash or edit BIOS. works with a straight swap and aligning the straps just like its shown in the video. 😁
Looks awesome for llm inference!
It is! 😁
I have a EVGA 3080ti FTW3 could you do this ram upgrade on that ? Problem is I don’t have an internal graphics card on my pc so I have to get something after I send mine in, please let me know!
Sure i can do it. The overall repair cost for the upgrade with the memory would come to USD 300 including 12 2GB memory modules of 21gbps. The same ones that used on 3090 Ti or 4090. Also please check your local shipping to and from Dubai before sending the GPU. if the overall cost is acceptable You can book your repair at the link graphicscardrepairs.com/repair-request/
furmark is a good gpu test but only for core and thermal test. As you see it uses 750ish mb of memory, so you're not testing memory stability.
Also 20 series and later have memory error correction, you need to compare before and after 3dmark scores or something to validate that error correction doesn't kick in as much as before. or ideally not at all when you run memory at stock speeds. And lastly you can check overclocking headroom before and after.
My 2080tis are evga ftw3 and also using Samsung memory chips. They do +1060 offset stable.
I'd suggest also to let the memory chips on the pre-heater and put them all in line when heating them in place. Thus you won't heat cycle the previous chip again.
also i would use a small aluminium or copper heatsink block for the core.
Great video, I'd like to see some schematics about the memory straps orientations and how effect different ics and capacities
Thank you Chris for your feedback. It means a lot to me 😁. It helps me get better. Lining the memory when installing, I get your point. I will do that. I will include 3dmark as well. 😁
Surely the extra VRAM wouldn’t have as much bandwidth and therefore actually lowering performance? I’m not 100% sure on the bus width of the 2080TI but for a 24GB card, 384Gb is recommended and for 22GB it should be similar. Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong or missed any information.
Here is how it goes. Each memory module has a bus width of 32, translating to 32 data lines connecting from the memory module to the GPU core. So if the GPU has 8 memory modules, the total bus width would be 8 times 32, which is 256. Now RTX 2080 Ti has 11 modules of 1 GB each so to calculate the bust width it's 11 times 32 which makes it 352 and bus width is calculated in bits so it would be 352 bits.
The formula to calculate memory bandwidth is memory clock speed times bus width. So in the case of RTX 2080 Ti, it is 1750Mhz times 352 bits which gives us a number 616000 which translates to 616Gbps.
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql thanks for taking the time to write this out. Really useful to know, thanks!
I had to skim through the video on a break, but does this require any bios hacks or something like that? It seems like this is something nvidia would have locked behind bios to have it still treat it as 11 gb. If not, that's awesome, but it does look like a ton of work.
It's not locked. The BIOS supports it 😁
Yes for Ai... this might be useful for full GPU offset on some llms in LM studio.
Indeed! 😁
Thats so weird and fun Id love to see how this card performs both when gaming and working
Sure it would be fun to watch some benchmarking for this GPU
probably zero difference in gaming
i'm not that tech savvy, but could this technique also be applied to older cards to breathe new life back into them, such as the gtx 970, or at that price point is it cheaper to just buy a more modern card? btw, you earned a sub from me, as i have never seen anything like this on youtube yet. so as you're the 1st video i have seen on this topic, and i think it's a fantastic idea that card manufacturers do NOT want you to think about, as it means you buy less of their newer cards, you get a sub and a like
970 is GDDR5 memory, GDDR6 memory wont work on it. Its also not really feasible because of equipment, expertise, and other sunk costs. Buying a modern card makes vastly more sense, especially considering they have 4 times the cuda cores if not more and access to tensor cores.
@abecx thank you for your speedy reply. I had a feeling this might be the case. I was just curious because a card like the gtx970 is still a great card and able to still hit 60 frames or more in some relatively modern games, it's just let down by the vram. More specifically the fact it isn't even a true 4gb card, as it only has 3.5gb of fast ddr4 and 0.5gb of slow vram. So when you hit anything over 3.5gb vram usage, the card still seems to struggle.
Thank you @abecx. Perfect!! You read my mind.
I agree with what @abecx mentioned in his comments. Its best buying a modern GPU at this point in time.
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql i have one. i also have a gtx970, so it was more just a curious mind wanting to know, as i did raise the question that it might be cheaper buying a more modern one, so the thought was already there that it could be more expensive than buying a newer card. But as the old saying goes "if you don't ask, you'll never know." :)
amazing. This would certainly be of interest to folks who use 3d-rendering software like Blender/Daz Studio etc. VRAM is the biggest limiting factor and it sucks how skimpy nvidia are with it. Even 24 GB is limiting for some folks.
Thank you. Happy to have you onboard. 😁
Hoi, can i ask how hard it is to make the bios read the extra memory? As i want to upgrade my 3090 from 24 to 48GB, by either using 3090TI memory chips, or if there's 2x memory per module of the exact same memory as 3090 uses.
To be honest its a very dificult task to edit the BIOS and get it to work. Since i am not an expert in editing BIOS i would not recommend this route unless you have good knowledge and time to experiment the edits.
It's a shame you cannot upgrade the bit bus, great video.
Yea. The 12th memory slot is disabled from the core. installing memory there will not work. 😁
You sir are a True Legend !!
Thank you. 😁
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql can we try the same memory upgrade on RTX 2080 super 8 GB version if so will the same GDDR6 memory which you have used in the upgrade work on 2080 Super too ??
Yes the same memory used on 2080ti will work on 2080 and 2080 super too.
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql nice , I would like to learn GPU modding and repairing from you . If you can start an online course where you teach GPU modding and repairing, a lot of people will be happy to join , including myself and it will be a great opportunity for me and thr others to learn from a master like you sir . Please think about this proposition. Sharing is caring, Thank You.
Sure i will consider. Also dont forget to watch my repair videos. There is lots to learn from it as well.
I mean it depends on how much it cost for parts + labor to upgrade the VRAM is the biggest factor in doing this but if it doesn’t cost a lot and it does work I see people doing this
Thank you for sharing 😁
my question is, wont this just cause problems all around because GPUs that have a specific driver installed for them, that is almost "handcrafted" for that card, which comes with unique specifications, such as memory size? Or do games and applications usually not care about those specs and just fill the memory as much as it can handle?
Nividia already has driver support for these upgrades. There is no change required and it will function just like a 11Gb card would. 😁
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql That is awesome!
Would it be possible to populate the remaining socket close to the PCIe to have 24 GB or do you think that the GPU is not capable of utilizing all the sockets at once?
On a 2080 Ti it is not possible. The GUP die is a cut down die. the full die is used by the Titan. the place where the memory is not installed is disabled from the core. this is due to that part not being functional. This is also the reason this chip was not binned for the Titan. The data lines on that slot do not connect to the die of the core.
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql oh ok. Thanks for info. But interesting anyway.
Is it really a quick and simple swap? So the GPU bios will detect that automatically?
The GPU BIOS will detected it after changing the straps. The support for 22GB is already there in the BIOS. So no edits required in BIOS. 😁
What is the software you are using to boot? It looked a little like ventoy?
It's not software. it's a grub screen. it works in DOS. I use it to load different operating systems from this screen
A dlaczego nie zrobiłeś porównania wydajności karty z 11gb i po zmianie na 22gb?
Which pre hitter you recommend?
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I watched in part on this very interesting video I have questions if you dont mind answering.
Could you give us very specific details to allow us to do it on our own such as if a certain resistor or a very specific tiny little thing needs to be changed to support the power delivery to the VRAM.
Such as upgrading a 1060 3gb to a 1060 6-12gb or are there limitations on these very things.
As I said I listened in part and I do feel as you may have explained this but for future reference as I will save this video to look back on in the future, but itd be great to get the details on how to swap in writting so I dont have to skim over the video or look in the transcript for a very specific bit of knowledge. Thanks again for this video Id be looking forward to seeing a 1080ti be upgraded just like the 2080ti alongside a separate video of the 1060 3gb going to the higher capacity!
after looking around at the channel, just looking at how this video did for you compared to the usual, you will go far if you keep stuff like this up! keep it up and go strong!
after reading some of the comments I noticed you said the 1080 is at its limit in terms of gddr5 vram and I would be curious then if the 4090 or 3090ti is at its limits in terms of VR since the 4090 ti had a supposed vram capacity of 48gb would it theoretically possible to do that on a 4090 or would it be at its limits such as the 1080?
what you are asking is a vast topic and can go up to many many pages as the scenarios are countless. It would be easier if you are stuck in any scenario you can mention it and i will respond to that scenario. In electronics, it all goes to basics. if you learn the working principle and usage or Capacitors, resistors, Diodes, Transistors and MOSFETS you are basically covered for any working principle. If you learn about power circuits the working principle is the same. It may look complex with controllers and regulators but the principle remains the same. You can learn about 12v regulators, 5v regulators, and their circuits. then apply the learning here. You will look at the GPU from a different perspective. All this will take time. Once you learn this you will then understand when its is ok not to replace a capacitor or when you have to. what happens if you change the resistor value etc. 😁
4090 and 3090 Ti have only 12 memory slots. Right now the highest capacity memory module available on GDDR6X is 2GB from Micron. So that makes it 24GB. SO it is not possible to go beyond 24Gb on both of these cards as there is no higher capacity memory available to install.
@@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql thanks for the reply to my vast amount of really loosely defined questions. if im to define a very specific scenario to you itd specifically be, what would the limitations on the upgrades of the 10 series of gpus? what would be the possibilities of just upgrading the vram and having it work. If im to go more specific I want to upgrade a 1060 3gb to a higher vram count. are there slots open as the 2080ti as you said in one comment has 12 slots but one is left alone. is the 3 gb card on the same exact gpu as the 6gb but has less vram? Im very curious about specifically upgrading that as of now my 3gb I have will be going to someone else and I want their first pc to have some more vram for titles they want to play such as armored core 6. Shukran I appreciate it!
I would love a 48gb rtx 3090 for my LLM workloads. Do you think its even possible with the GDDR6X memory?
Currently, RTX 3090 only supports 1GB modules. A BIOS edit is required to make 48 GB to work and then there are driver issues to handle. Not worth the upgrade as in my opinion. Stability may be an issue. In the comments, someone mentioned there is a 48 GB 3090 video but i have not watched it so i would not be able to comment.
please is quick le air what temperature and what air flow you use?
I use Atten 862D same as Quick. Temperature is at 420 and air at 60%.
damn 3080 prices boutta shoot up with 20gb vram upgrade 😂
Yea I'm working on the upgrade on the 3060 ti and up. It's work in progress. I will get the video as soon as I get work around.
How much does a service like this cost? Do you think this kind of modded gpu can take hours and hours on end load? What do you think about rtx 4 series, maybe the 4090? 24 GB of Memory upgraded to 48 GB? And lastly what's the issue with gaming for such a card?
I'm dying to know the answer to this as well. Or at least how much are the memory chips.
RTX 40 series GPUs are limited by memory bus width. That means Nvidia has designed the GPUs with only that many memory slots. For example, 4090 has 12 memory slots and the maximum GDDR6X memory module available on the platform is only 2GB. RTX 4080 has 8 memory slots. These cards are at the maximum possible limit unless Micron designs a 4GB module on the GDDR6X platform. 😁