Why Qui-Gon Jinn Revealed He Studied the Dark Side (Not Why You Think) - Star Wars Explained
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Qui Gon Is A Definition Of Quality Over Quantity. He's In One Movie But He's One Of The Most Well Written Characters In Star Wars
Qui-Gon Jinn was arguably the best character in the prequel trilogy. He really exemplified exactly what the jedi are and could be. Simaler to Luke after him, Jinn knew the Republic jedi was outdated. His own ideology was about progress and peace. No matter the cost. He was the one jedi Palpatine feared.
Yea he was pro-slavery, a real hero 🙄
"He was the one jedi Palpatine feared."
and mace windu
and yoda
@@alexrator7674and Anakin until he got inside of his head
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the jedi order should have seen him as an example of what a jedi truly was. he rejected the dark side instead viewed it as necessary and that the truth was balance. light and dark both as one. the force itself is neither light nor dark but also is light and dark at the same time. in reality the force is what it deems necessary to be and these are why force nexuses exist, often they all prove to be great teachers. a darkside nexus is a place teeming with life and the dark side both and they all often prove to be great teachers for powerful jedi. Yoda's cave being one of Luke's greatest lessons and this planet in the comic is Qui-gon's greatest lesson. the force does not create dark side nexuses for no reason at all, every one of them was always a powerful lesson if one opens themself to it and willing to learn.
the force may create many other dark side nexuses for force sensitives or jedi to find who are probably fated to create massive ripples in the universe. if Qui-gon didn't find this nexus he probably wouldn't later search for the whills and learn to manifest his consciousness in the force after death
I believe this is where Qui Gon learned that the Jedi must not suppress the dark side for it will always be there. You must acknowledge the darkness in you and overcome it. Anakin had to keep his darkness hidden because the Jedi can’t understand strong emotions and their effect on people.
Once you go dark you never go back! 😁
@@hackman669 do you even Darth Vader bro?
I do believe that even if the Jedi contracted with psychiatrists (maybe even Ithorian or Togruta), especially during the Clone Wars and post-battle PTSD, Anakin would have had a much better time handling his emotions and likely being much less seduce-able for Palpatine
@@metroidhunter965yup! You hit the nail on the head. Anakin didn’t get the guidance he needed because the Jedi were far too stagnant in their ways. It makes me glad that we finally see him fulfill his true destiny in Ashoka.
the darkside is always present it is always a part of us, the jedi long forgotten this lesson which is why they ultimatly had to fall so they could rise again renewed by their near extinction
"When learning the ways of the force, one must study all its aspects."
-Darth Sidious
The Dark Side is not merely a source of great power, it's also a window into one's heart.
I like that. It reflects the old saying: you are your own worst enemy.
@@notimeleft1 an enemy that the Jedi's teachings empower..
@@notimeleft1 master thy Dark Side, master thyself.
Well said sir
@@ghostface4404That’s what the Jedi try and do you know…..they try and master the darkness within themselves, by not holding onto negative emotions and by not becoming too attached to things.
Balance within themselves means mastering the darkness so it doesn’t control you.
The Sith on the other hand, don’t master their darkness at all - they are slaves to it, and it eventually leads to their downfall of course
Qui Gon is the Jedi Luke should have modeled his new Order after. Instead he repeated the mistakes of his predecessors (at least in canon)
Legends Luke has a very similar attitude to Qui Gon
in canon Qui-gon did not leave holocrons or books instead he learned about him from Obi-wan's journal whereas the books Luke managed to find were high republic instruction manuals written 150 years before the clone wars even started, those pages were filled with jedi dogma that was on full display during the clone wars and prior to it
I KNEW IT! He would've been able to help Anakin become the true Chosen One with his knowledge of the Dark Side!
It’s exactly why he had to die. If he lived to train Anakin he would defeat the Sith and the Jedi would continue their rule. The Jedi had become subservient to the senate and its whims, no longer truly obeying the living Force. Darth Vader needed to rise and fall to truly bring balance.
@@Watcherofprovidence Yea, but we never will know. It could be that if Qui-Gon didn't/couldn't train Anakin in the orthodox way of a Jedi, he would likely do it on his own without the Council's say-so. He often ran counter to what the Council and the Republic asked. Always putting the Force over even the Jedi Code. Anakin would be the Jedi that the Order would need to go back to, not the warriors they would become in the Clone Wars.
@@99thJediWarriorBut he wouldn’t outright fight against the Jedi and they would continue to rule. That is not balance.
@@Watcherofprovidencethe Jedi would have another full blown splinter because of it.
On previous videos we learned he let's the force guides him even through his fight with Darth Maul. The force was telling him that it was his time even though we saw multiple lightsaber stab wound survivers make it.
I believe he would of been perfect to train Anakin,but the force tells him it must be Obi-Wan in his last words
As Palpatine once said: “In order to understand the mystery, one must study all its aspects, not just the dogmatic, narrow view of the Jedi.” And Qui-Gon’s definitely understanding that lesson.
the dark side is always a part of every living person, it is their worst qualities their greed hate ect. to understand it one must understand themselves truly and utterly. the jedi failed to be the masters of themselves above their mastery over the force. the jedi order's crimes were great, they never even accepted and even forgot that the dark side is simply their worst attributes and when a force user succumbs to their worst attributes its like a poison and it corrupts the force within them. the jedi should never have forgotten that they themselves and every other person in the universe are the origin of the dark side.
Qui - Gon was definitely someone who identified more with jedi of the old republic
he more identified with the order led by the prime Jedi the mastery of the force the light dark it all matters not since the light and dark are you, the light side is your positive traits your love, happiness and that zeal for life and selflessness whereas the darkside is your worst traits, anger, hate, greed, envy ect. to master the force one must master themselves and qui gon has 110% mastered themselves as an individual to accept that make it his truth he was able to listen to the force with an absolute clarity and put their entire faith in the force.
Qui Gon understood the dark side was a necessity and not something to be in fear of unlike Yoda, he believed the light cannot exist without the dark otherwise there would be no balance hence the Chosen One prophecy, Qui Gon relied on common sense and followed The Force the Jedi relied on strict codes and establishment and that is why the Jedi was doomed to fail
yes, he understood that the dark side is a part of us, a part of himself it was the worst attributes of a individual something to be accepted, learned from and while kept a distance from to a lesser degree embraced. a part of the dark side is ambition and this alone could take a jedi far in life but what that ambition is and where it takes you is a major factor. Qui-gon's ambition was always in dispaly his ambition was to listen to the force to embrace it. one can gain wisdom in recognizing and acknowledging one's own darker side without embracing it or letting it lead to the wrong ends.
basically he knew he had this dark side and he learned from it and acknowledged it was there and yet he always made sure he never acted on these darker impulses. this is why Anakin was so emotionally messed up, he was brought into the order and he had the lessons designed to indoctrinate little children into suppressing their darker side and pretending that it never existed. a jedi can utilize passion, ambition and healthily tap into their greed and anger when they need to but the code.
"There is no emotion, there is peace. There is no ignorance, there is knowledge. There is no passion, there is serenity." the unfortunate truth is that 2 parts of this code is inherently dangerous because it ignores the truth.
"There is no emotion, there is peace" this ignores that the dark side is the darkest parts of a person their darker side
"Peace is a lie, there is only passion, through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power, through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me." you can see how the sith have admirable qualities albeit misguided
"There must be both dark and light. I will do what I must to keep the balance, as the balance is what holds all life. There is no good without evil, but evil must not be allowed to flourish. There is passion, yet peace; serenity, yet emotion; chaos, yet order. I am a wielder of the flame; a champion of balance. I am a guardian of life. I am a Gray Jedi." the grey jedi code seems to be more holistic to life itself and to the force as retconned by Gorge Lucus in Star wars the clone wars season 6. it is us who make the force light or dark and by accepting that we have both in us we master ourselves without bending either way.
in short the jedi and sith codes limit their members and force them to accept a dogmatic view of the force and it limits how both sides view the force and view themselves. Qui-gon was understanding the force was so much bigger than just the light and dark it was almost beyond his ability to comprehend yet he found a way to comprehend it anyway if star wars does bring back the grey jedi they could be brought in as a faction who understood and learned from their own dark sides and are willing to tap into their negative aspects for power when needed in order to bring peace and balance to the universe.
This video shows why the Sith saw Qui-Gon as a threat, despite the fact he was the perfect mentor for Anakin he was also the only Jedi in the Clone Wars era who'd of surrendered themselves over to the living force, and allowed himself to peer into the dark side to find balance.
I agree
This moment gives some great insight into a much beloved character.
The fact that we don't get to see his wisdom used in the clone wars is criminal 😢
Ikr ?
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Relatable 😂
the fact the jedi order ignored his wisdom at all was criminal
Had he lived, his wisdom might have been able to prevent the war in the first place
@@NoahLodell-nk8nj most likely not but he may have obtained from the war
Beautiful and filled with Wisdom. Not just from the pages of the comic, but comparing "scripture" with "scripture". Jinn and Mace are a lot alike to me. I think the older masters during that time knew how they felt about balance, and in that reality they overstood who they could talk with about "IT", and what they should say. Study the whole. Live the part. Respect Stupendous. Thanks for another jewel.
wisdom is not something one attains from being taught but through experience. if Qui-gon survived and taught anakin maybe Anakin would have learned more about his own dark side and its dangers and how to keep a distence from them. i doubt Anakin truly loved but he did lust, he was greedy and craved power and he was full of fear to what he would lose and Qui-gon would have taught him how to deal with these negative emotions and his dark side
Rest easy Qui Gon Jin.
3:07 "wars do not make one great"... wow, such a great quote indeed!!
This is why Qui Gon has always been my favorite character
People say we need a series of X character. And I agree. Star wars has made so many interesting characters that could carry their own story before the clone wars. And right here, I bet Qui-gon could be such a character. Following his spiritual journey and seeking balance and if possible, we could see his last thoughts and why he (perhaps) chose to die in TPM and as a bonus, see what it looks like to become a force ghost
Qui-gon is the perfect example of a force user he even questioned the jedi code from time to time but he perfectly follows the will force
Obi-wan is the perfect jedi always following the code exactly
This guy should've never been killed. He's the only that understands the nature of the force and how one should conduct themselves.
This is really nice. Balance. I think dark side greatly respected Qui-Gon to. And that means something. Qui-Gon is a true Jedi. May the Force be with you too😊
It's pretty cool how the dark side decided to teach him what he wanted to know with seemingly no price instead of trying to kill him who would normally be It's enemy.
One of the greatest back stories and philosophy’s I’ve heard
Qui-gon is concerned on how people view the Jedi, He wasn't in the living force yet he was a force ghost, being closely connected to those he cares about, his natural side is bothered on how others view himself and the rest of the jedi, he wants the people know what the Jedi really are(Guardians of peace) are strong protectors, yet the people of that galaxy only know that they protect, do negotiations, yet more rare amount of people know what the real Jedi supposed to be based on actions.
Anything safe and natural plantlife growing is sharing life, the beautiful part of the planet found it's way in the "canvas"
a new planet that I never knew existed.
The Jedi Order were too busy fighting the Dark side when they should've just studied it in to know Balance.
A few jedi who tried to study it was what caused the first great divide between the order in turn creating the sith order, so I seriously doubt they would ever try doing this
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Awesome story! Was not familiar with this one.
The implications are profound if he had lived to be Anakin's master.
That would be an outstanding "What if?", in light of this story.
Well done on this.
Absolutely FANTASTIC! Video. Incredibly insightful.
I love Qui-Gonn. He was a true servant of The Force. Also… he followed his own heart & path. Master Qui-Gonn would’ve been the perfect father figure & Master for Anakin.
Perhaps he did some research about the sith in his time despite some things in their library that are on the forbidden list. The Jedi should see knowledge about how to be ready to deal with the dark side.
To quote Odin from Marvel " A wise King never seeks War, but he must always be ready for it"
My personal opinion on "Grey Jedi" is that it is a very interesting concept that shouldn't be over used or lightly used.
I believe Qui Gon Jinn was a Jedi and perhaps one of the only true Jedi left during this Era. Count Dooku when given the truth embraces a darker road and was Yodas former apprentice before he fell. Sometimes i think if Yoda was able to see that he failed as a master that Qui Gon woulda been more listened to and respected thus making the Jedi more aware and connected The "Duel of Fates" OST is articulated and Befitting inn more ways than 1. I imagine every Jedi that began to grow and see the truth was more than likely to find them selfs at a crossroads once they hit a certain level. Either embrace the force itself and trust inn it or handle it by trusting your own power. Not a decision any Man or Woman or Child would execute with ease given Plaqueis's and Sidious's End game plan was already set into motion.
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I hate the whole idea of grey Jedi. Is the light side and the Darkside that's it that's the way Lucas planned it. Qui-Gon Jinn is the epitome of what all Jedi should be! He and Darth Maul on my two favorite characters in the entire Saga episodes 1 through 6. The Phantom Menace holds a very special place in my heart.
Very well said and Phantom Menace really deserves more respect on its name its way more articulated than what some might say bro
Another great upload, you never disappoint!
Glad you enjoy it!
The Stupendous wave what if Anakin Skywalker was reborn with all his memories, powers, and abilities it all starts after he dies on the Death Star the force itself takes him to the world between worlds and give him a chance to rectify and undo everything he did He is dead reborn as his young self on episode one with all his memories, powers and abilities, and uses if we’re good to save qui gon his mother and others what do you think?
Interesting idea. Perhaps find a Star Wars what if channel and ask them to do it. This channel is a lore channel.
You can learn from both sides but don't trade your soul for materialistic things
Probably a terrible way to put this but I feel like Yoda may have actually been one of the biggest detriments to the Jedi overall. He was strong in the ways of the light side of the force but his focus was pretty narrow and he tended to project that on both those he taught and the Jedi as a whole. And the fact that he was so respected and well thought of as being the "Ideal" Jedi, seemed to reinforce the rigidity that the Jedi had started to find themselves wallowing in. It's honestly surprising how many famous Jedi that he taught or was close to became Dark side users or just outright went bad. That being said, I still like the tiny monk and think he really did show Luke a good foundation once he had reached the end of his days and was able to properly reflect on life. Also, Qui-Gon is who definitely should have had the most hand in training Anakin. The Sith really blew that one.
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There is a place for Darkness as in service to Light.
What's name of the background music past 8:00 ?
Qui-Gon's discovery here makes sense. By hiding from something, by never facing it, you give it too much power. You don't know how to deal with emotional issues when they come up, you get frustrated, angry, and as a result are consumed. Passions can lead to evil acts, but to experience passion, and do what is right in spite of them. That is something the Pre-Clone Wars Jedi, and Banite Sith didn't understand, they despised each other's views, and sought only to destroy each other. Anakin fell because he could not reconcile his desires with the dogma of the Jedi. Had Qui-Gon lived he might have saved Anakin and the galaxy from the Sith, by teaching Anakin to deal with his feelings, not let go, but actually deal with them. His loss was...a tragedy.
Has been my brothers favorite char. Since the prequels xD hes an oldie
Qui Gone bye bye👋🏾
Qui Gon Jinn is the definition of what it means to be a jedi
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Qui could have stopped palps.
as yoda learned in season 6 of star wars the clone wars there is no light without dark and there is no dark without light and that we percive as the dark side and all its corruption is simply one's own dark side and darksiders pollute the force by putting anger and hate into it.
in truth the force is neither light nor dark but it is balanced except for the fact those who peruse the dark side and those who peruse the light tip the balance. when light and dark side nexuses are found, it is all to often they are places those sensitive with the force can learn greater lessons though what these lessons are is up to the individual.
Qui Gon studied the dark side to learn from it.. while the other Jedi tried to suppress it
This is so cool! I love Qui Gon Jinn
Im assuming to be considered a grey you would use both sides of the force which Qui-Gon doesn't, im interested to hear what other people think about that
Qui Gon was a gray Jedi
If there ever was or is a human version of the Bando. Master Jinn fits the mold.
It is the will of the force of this, I have no doubt.
I wonder what it's like to be a force ghost. What do they do all day.
Excellent video.
Thank you very much!
I think Qui-Gon is the real chosen one. He’s the one that found and brought Anakin to the Jedi, which ultimately brought him to the sith. Qui-Gon delivered balance to the force.
Have you done a proper video on balance in the force? Because I legitimately don't understand it. Why would the light ever want balance with the dark? The dark is bad, the dark corrupts so how can you find balance with it? It was always my understanding that the 'light side' was the force and dark side was just a perversion of the natural force.
I think the idea is that either side of the force can corrupt you. Finding balance is about allowing yourself to feel the full range of emotions, whilst also remaining disciplined enough to show restraint.
@@Lolstupidity how does the light corrupt? The word corruption in and of itself has negative connotations. And even if it does corrupt is that a bad thing? Star wars is still very light is good dark is bad so taking that into account I'm trying to figure out why anyone would want to not be 100% good. And of course I'm not saying that everyone that utilizes the light side is an untouchable paragon of goodness, I'm simply saying that the light in and of itself is good and all the powers and benefits it provides are beneficial and selfless whereas the dark side is selfish and power hungry
@@CelticShaman. you can see how the light corrupts by looking at the Jedi of the prequel trilogy. They were so disciplined and restrained, that they refused to acknowledge their emotions. This also resulted in them refusing to help those in need, simply because it went against the Jedi code, or the wishes of the Republic senate.
@@CelticShaman. I think the narrator put it best. QGJ didn't go to the dark side, but he was aware of it, to the point of understanding it has a place/function/existence. The 100% full jedi were so caught up in their rules and traditions, they missed the dark right in front of them, literally in the same room. The Force showed QGJ things because he sought them out, and trusted the Force. The Jedi were religious zealots that were trying to make the Force serve them. Yoda realized this, eventually, as we see when he is training Luke.
@@jaythor70 but the Jedi were full of themselves specifically because they were not following the will of the force. That didn't have anything to do with being too full of the light. In fact had they been more full of the light things might not have gone down the way they did. But they did not listen to the force and only listened to themselves which I think doesn't answer my original question. The reason the Jedi of the clone wars failed is not because they were corrupted by the light but because they lacked it to begin with.
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Qui-Gon is very much what I would be as a Jedi. However,I wouldn't join Jedi or Sith.
id say more "human" than grey, he had a great humanity to him.
That must be the flower yoda was talkin about if u know you know
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8:00 Did they steal that from Star Trek?
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Is there any info about shmi skywalker connection to the force
to have the chosen one be born into slavery It seems interesting Like what did it want anakin to learn from that life?
Why wouldn't he have told yoda what he learned on that planet? The fact he discovered a new planet?
Most people forget the true origins of the jedi and sith orders. Tython is the home of a order of force users calling themselves jedii. They practice balance between light and dark sides of the. It was when they were invaded by another civilisation strong in the darkside of the force that things would begin to change. Eventually the first schism happened and what would eventually go on to become the jedi and sith orders respectively began.
However my knowledge is somewhat limited so my advice is to seek knowledge and understanding from as many sources as possible if you want to be as informed as possible. Kind regards from Daniel Harman.
I’m always guarded when I hear canon. Disney continues to make up stories to explain things without understanding. Like how did Leia know her mother was beautiful? Duh she thought her adoptive mother was her real mother.
That fear of hyperspace is kind of nonsense. Youre infinitely more likely to hit absolutely nothing. You're not going to end up in a star or crashing into a black hole.. (backwards?)
Dark matter
Assuming quigon was actually a grey jedi what color would his lightsaber be? Unless im missing something and green is inherently a grey color to begin with all along.
I think grey Jedi sabres are white not 100% tho, cause to be a grey Jedi means touching both the light and dark, white sabers are made from “purified” red crystals so maybe on the way to become a grey Jedi you bleed your crystal red than heal it signifying balance? Someone please offer better explanation I’m going off of knowledge I had years ago idk what’s new and canon or wtf
Qui-Gon was in Schindlers list
Hard headed yoda was 😂 the Jeti couldn’t see there ancestors did things a certain way with good reason
Who would be the dark-side version of Qui-Gon?
Darth Revan, possibly.
Vinally
Day 363 of asking for a part 3 of what if anakin was trained by qui gon
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I think because he want known why dark site and all sith created
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What if Darth Vader went back to the time of the ancient sith and eventually went back to his own time with the ancient sith knowledge to kill Lord sidouse
Qui Gon is one of my faves. Its its trash they killed him
That was Han who said that lol
I disagree. This comic is not about Qui-Gon learning from the dark side or combining both the light side and the dark side. Rather, it illustrates that in the pursuit of fighting the dark side, a Jedi can commit terrible acts that may cause them to fall to the dark side themselves. Jedi must avoid becoming warriors and instead follow the will of the Force, as Qui-Gon did. The dark side of the Force can be destroyed not only through battle but also through compassion, enabling those who have fallen to the dark side to return to balance and the light side. This is symbolized by the beautiful red flower that blooms from plants cured of the corruption of the dark side.
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imo qui gon is the best jedi of all time. not the most powerful, but i think he is the jedi in the best form
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