EU4 - What if Every Trade Node Was a Nation in 1444?
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In this video titled EU4 - What if Every Trade Node Was a Nation in 1444? we take a look at what would happen if every trade node was a nation in 1444 / what if every trade node was a nation at the start of EU4. In this video I made every trade node in the old world into one single nation, with nations such as Byzantium, England, France, Sweden, Ruthenia being present in their respective trade nodes. As you can probably guess it resulted in some pretty funny shenanigans. Obviously you would expect that the nations with the richest trade nodes would dominate, but did it really turn out that way? This whole run was controlled by the AI only without my interference and it yielded some pretty interesting results to be honest. So, after watching this video you will know what would happen if every trade node was a nation in 1444 in Europa Universalis 4. What is the next "What if" scenario that I should do? Leave a comment below!
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What if all of Europe started at tech 1 with no feudalism in the entire continent. And maybe the other institutions don't spawn in Europe? I'm not sure if this is doable, but if it is it would be cool to see.
all regions United?
Next time you do a what if, you should avoid giving Lucky Nations land or nerf them like Muscovy. I think it makes more interesting results
One country for every development value, e.g. all 3 dev provinces are one country, all 4 dev provinces are one country, and so on.
WHat if all in HRE?
What if every nation started with the same dynasty
The most cursed playthrough.
Cursed or blessed
Alternately, what if each Dynasty was its own nation or what if each historical great dynasty (Chinese dynasties, House Wettin (Britain and Germany), House Hohenzollern (Prussia), House Habsburg (HRE/Spain) etc.) was its own nation.
@@thesunwillneverset but what about republics and Papal States? They have no dynasties.
@@pelinalwhitestrake3367 Yeah, that could be a problem. Maybe just give them to surrounding kingdoms? I don't know what the solution there would be, honestly.
That dynasty should be the Von Habsburgs, just to make it as cursed as possible
So Byzantium and Mamluks is what happens when Marc Antony and Cleopatra won the second triumvirate instead of Augustus.
Pretty much lmao
except they were of the same religion lmao
@@heberthr.6978 Cleopatra was greek ,so different gods i guess
@@kushalsb460 thenically different gods, but in truth, just some minor changes
mamluk pu's were cursed asf I was NOT expecting that to happen out of all
I have no idea how it was possible
@@TheRedHawk I dont own the leviathan dlc but i just checked and there is an option to request relative as heir in the favors category, probably they did that but it is still extremely cursed lol
*blessed
@@yusufk6712 Yes that Is what happened probably. Pretty op and unhistorical. Leviathan strikes again
@@Pigraider268 Kermit
I think i once seen a weird accident..I was in a Kazan > Islamic Prussia, where I flip into Protestant using Rebels and then flip back into Sunni Islam using a decision because many of my land is still sunni, the weird thing is after i flip back to Sunni and at that time my ruler has no heir i got the PU warning " a succesion crisis between Ottomans and Crimea...yeah
Normal eu4 I see.
Wut
What if all the formables in new world existed in 1444? Think it'd be interesting to see texas, california, florida, vermont, Quebec, Cascadia, alaska, US, Canada, and Mexico all fighting for NA while Brazil destroys everyone in SA and Australia doing nothing for the entire game
I would like to see a formable Afrikaans nation in South Africa, maybe not South Africa, but to have one at least.
Rome dominates
Personal Unions only require the junior partner to be Christian at the time they become the Junior Partner
It's not a bug, but it's cursed
Ahh that’s true
That’s why Kongo sometimes get pu’t bij a random other Kongolese nation
I think the byzantines used favors to put their dinasty on the mamluks, that's how muslim nations are getting PU's, I suppose ...
This is the best theory I have heard so far
Just looked at the eu4 wiki, only the PU target needs to Christian, so it if a Christian nation and a non-christian nation share dynasties then the non-christian nation can get a pu on the christian nation but not visa-versa.
@@Webbedtrout ffs paradox needs to playtest their shit before they release it
@@apw9929 Disagree, as it kinda makes sense even.
@@apw9929 This would happen before Leviathan, Ive had ottomans PU Serbia in emperor.
With Russia in such a bad state Manchu begins the relentless march west.
Sounds epic when you put it like that
How did they get the same dynasty tho, is it cos of the Mamaluk gov type?
more like relentless ride west
What if every Region would be a country
Bruh imagine all the vassals being released
@@TCAFTV Nah Regions arent that big. Literally every culture has more than one Region so it wouldnt be that bad as in the Video of cultural unions
@omar belarbi region, not religion.
Yes
The game would crash
"I give to nation that has the name of the trade noad" *gives bordeaux to brittany*
Blursed
Do all nations as a Daimyo under Ulm....
Lmao
@@TheRedHawk why are you laughing??
4:06 Mali has royal marriage with Castille. That's how Mamluks got Byzantium's dynasty. Normal 1.31 stuff.
looks like the mamluks were able to get the PU because if a muslim nation somehow have the same dinasty as a christian nation, the religious restrition only apply for the junior partner, the senior partner doesn't have to be christian
after years of dominating, the empire of qing decided they needed to return back to their root so they decided to reform mongol empire
You secretly love the Byzantines don't you, Hawk?
Is okay. I love them too.
18:43 , is more cursed when you know that mamluck means slave in the muslim world , so the byzantine emperor is a slave
Poland and Byzantium are ruled by slaves
Or just that Mamlucs had a weird tradition of using slaves in their military.
@@Notmyname1593 I think Mamluks were the slave caste, kinda like Jannissaries. And the Mamluks took over the government, kinda like the Jannissaries. :D It's a Turkish thing, since both the Mamluks and Ottomans were turkish, and used slave soldiers.
Slave soldiers* not slaves as in plantations slaves BIG difference.
Mameluks is the name of slave soldiers. NOT slaves. Slave is "Abd / عبد"
Edit: I guess they are still slaves. But the term mameluk specifically refers to the slave soldiers only. Not regular slaves
if your on 1.31 I'd be willing to bet the ai is using the "heir of our dynasty" favors option and eventually just falling into a PU the normal way.
Probably the case
mashalla brotha very awesome video
Thank you I appreciate it!
After the whole palalaigos succession war with Poland and the mamluks, I really expected him to say Qing also had the Palalaigos dynasty
Seeing the set up, I fully expect Byzantium to do well and France as well,because thinking about it, it gains access to Burgundy for free and Brittany and Valencia will be isolated and weak so they will expand there rather quickly.
In the east, Jianzhou will dominate since it can directly form Manchu and Japan is it's only strong neighbor
Edit : I thought that everything you said in your community post may be true,but the PU and all of this dynastic shenanigans was just ........ it broke me mentally
The one time I tried an AI only thing like this was “What if every region was a nation.” Governing cap ruined it.
What if the Western Roman Empire survived but the Eastern part fell
Modern borders in 1444 but greece=byzantium turkey=ottomans or something like that. i think that would be interesting
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"Genoa and Venice are nowhere to be seen".
He says with his cursor over Venice.
22:20
I mean they’re irrelevant lol
My best guess has to be the new factor mechanics allowing you to put your dynasty on the throne
I'm guessing what happened with the Byzantine dynasty was that the AI allied the Mamluks and waited until the Mamluks had no heir, and then asked to put a relative as heir using favors.
what a crazy cool video idea wonder who suggested that
This remains the best “what if” video. Thanks
Very entertaining videos, thanks for the great content !
Thanks for watching!
I think it’s safe to say the Lancasters won the Wars of the Roses in this cursed timeline.
19:03 russian Nogai... pretty accurated
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ALL DAY!!
(Second)
Well I hope you like it!
The reason why protestant reformation is late is because reform desire is created through events. More countries mean more event. Only once reform desire reaches a certain threshold does the reformation start
1:33 there is a releasable tag of Astrahan.
2:01 a Sibir as well.
"Novgorod formed Russia" sure is a sentence.
Not as much as "Beloozero formed Russia"
Was actually hype for this one
Hope you liked it!
I got a brain aneurysm after watching this. Liked.
Imagine how I felt making it
there is the favor to install a hair so i think thats how they got the PU/the dinasty on the throne
Jiangzhou forming Qin it's not massive surprise. Unless you didn't play eu4 before)
@1:33 you gave the great horde a single province in Novgorod, instantly dislike I'm big shmad
Byzantium was allied with the Mamluks for so long and had enough favours so they put their dynasty on the Mamluk thrown.
This would be an interesting mod to play
By any chance did you use the own_core console command for all provinces? This command gives separatism, so many nations will fall to rebels. Instead of this, I reccomend using the integrate command when possible as this does not create separatism
I used both tbh
Why didn't you create Kraków tag in Krakow trade node except Poland? There is Krakow tag in the game
The Drew Durnill of eu4
I think byz and France used favors to get an heir on the throne of their respective countries
Persia and Byzantium and mamluks holly trinity
What if every nation was a trade node?
I saw this from somebody else so it isn’t my idea but the entire world is the HRE
Ridiculously cursed dynasties
1444 start date with modern borders in north and south america
Ruthenia is going to do good is my prediction
I would have given all of the South African land to Libertatia instead of a custom nation but I don’t resent your choice
Now what if every nation was a trade node
champagne should be controlled by champagne
dump it into vic2 and hoi4 lmao. The most cursed grand campaign
Why didn't you give the gulf of Aden to, well, ADEN?
This is not the current red hawk, change my mind
honestly surprised you didnt give astrakhan to astrakhan
What if every nation started.....with the Karling dynasty.
Universalis Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Karlings
Really cursed and really nice
Recuest relative as hair...
Bruh...
What if every different terrain type was a different country?
Yes very cool but
Every culture a nation when? I can help if you want, get started on the setup and send the save file.
Alright, I'm listening. Hit me up in The Discord
@@TheRedHawk soon
How do you set these things up?
Frankfurt controls the Rhineland.
Sad Cologne noises. (Frankfurt isn't even at the Rhine)
Byzantium and Persia allied? Wow.
My favorite alliance tbh
TBH, me in every Byzantium or Persia run I play going out of my way to ally the other one.
@@e-wall199 respect 😂
Did anyone notice that novgorod should own that southern province and not the great horde
Mamluks were only trying to go Austrailia. They went to Austria instead.
Lmao
Predictions: fully formed Japan without the threat of Ming sounds scary. Huge Malacca I think will be very rich and might be powerful enough to expand.
edit: hm. I was quite a bit off it seems. Poor Malacca really got ganged up on there ^^
malacca isn't too much without strong daddy ming, pair that with strong majapahit & siam as neighbors, because malacca ideas were good for trade, but not so much for conquest
You should have given the cape to the zulu :/
"Valencia is not a node... It is a people"
It's pretty simple how the Mamlukes got their PU's... they got the same dynasty (through an event) and then the Christian ruler died without an heir. In the case of Aq (if it's true) Aq probably flipped Coptic or Orthodox. IRL I believe you'd have to follow the lineage back to prove they're the closest living heir and then you'd have to contend with the unrest caused by Catholics being ruled by a Muslim. So I think +25% liberty desire would be reasonable if it isn't already a thing.
After Leviathan you will never see a game where the AI actually manages to colonize North America
Francia and Castille destroying València, like in real life :(
How can you use that map mode? I thought its only for 1.31.0 ?
What map mode?
@@TheRedHawk graphics map improved.
This is a great idea, but would be so much cooler as timelapse
I have though about it, but other creators do timelapses so I kinda want to put my own spin on it
What if all colonial nations existed in 1444 and were independent
Champagne, Basra, Katsina, Kiev, Astrakhan, Persia, Deccan, should have went for their namesake tag.
Bordeaux should have been Gascony, Beijing should have been Yan,
6:00 in isn’t that cyan nation there like rare af to spawn?
Lol it really is, I didn’t even notice it tbh
The restoration of Byzantine Empire
Southeast Asia is just too Stable when the Chola dynasty, the Majapahit, and the Srivijaya dynasty didn't butt heads quite often.
What if every state was a country
What if alliances were dissalowed?
Did you see one province Syria in Cyprus?
Yep, they survived the whole game, same with Croatia in Crete
I subscribed after ''Ming, Shun, Xi, Yue, and Wu''
Lol I appreciate it
1:31 wtf, it should be the other way around
Exactly lol
I hate that he never touched the new world in these videos. 😭
The game prevents non-christian countries to royal marry with christian countries or claim thrones. However, these are diplomatic options. If a nation has a pre-existing royal marriage, or the same dynasty as a christian country, it may end up in a PU.
You had one job and that was to give persia trade node to persia😫
Keep watching!
It was pretty good but imo if you are going to leave America unchanged Africa should be the same as well
have a big nation that owns all uncolinised land
Convert it to Victoria 2
why didn't you give katsina to katsina lol?
I couldn’t remember their TAG lmao
@@TheRedHawk not unfair lmao, I can barely remember any tags
Why did you not give champagne to champagne and Bordeaux to Gascony ?
Didn’t think about it tbh
what if every religion was a country
it shouldnt be possible for nations of different religions to even royal marry eachother right?
They probably used the introduce heir mechanic
@@TheRedHawk I suppose so, yeah. I don't believe it's supposed to work that way. It certainly shouldnt
you should post a mod for it, I kinda wanna play it ngl