@@CyrahLia_459Not so sure Scylla was gonna be happy about recieving six rotten corpses, sea travel takes a long time, besides they are a nymph of sorts just like she was.
Yeah, there were also synths. Penelope’s instrument is a violin. There were little to no violins in her part so we knew it wasn’t her. Another thing is that synths are usually played when a supernatural force is around.
Scylla is even telling him "We're lonely demons from hell, and you're a monster just like me for sacrificing your men" All of her lines sink into Odysseus and his second. Pushing his second to confess, and for Odysseus to make the call to randomly select 6 men to die so they could escape.
No Jorge released a part of scylla, and we heard part of thunder bringer (at least for me I honestly have not heard anything from suffering and different beast, but that might just be me)
The fan theory is that Polities kept track of the calendar for the crew (so he would know when everyone's birthday was!). Since he died no one has been keeping track and Odysseus is just guessing at this point.
About the 12 or 10 years thing, in the actual Odyssey it was 12 years at that point, but Epic the musical didn't really justify 2 extra years had passed since the Trojan War (although it's not implausible). So it was meant to be 10 years in There Are Other Ways, but since they made an oopsie Jorge basically said to make up whatever headcannon we want about those extra 2 years.
Honestly you could just say that between some of the saga’s there has been enough sailing time that passed to be at least 2 years. I don’t think it’s that hard to explain away.
If I’m remembering correctly, in Greek mythology Sirens are fated to die when a ship hears their song and passes by unharmed, so simply killing them, let alone cutting off their tails and letting them drown, feels a little gratuitous. Odysseus really went extra for this
I love how all reactors "passam pano" (defend Odi) at the begginig... and then when he says to cut off their tails and let them drown... everyone's like... "uhm, ok, we were on the same page until one second ago" LOL
Yeah the way the sirens were treated was cruel, but it was also pretty efficient all things considered. Odysseus has truly embraced that ruthlessness is mercy upon ourselves.
Yes, on there are other ways Jorge made a mistake on the numbers and no one caught it. He accidentally said 12 instead of 10. He made a tiktok about it, but he just had to roll with it because well, the other song is already released so he can't backtrack now and say 10. Saying about 12 years or so is like a cover up of sorts
Great to see another kiwi fan of Epic! I've been trying to get friends and family into it since the Ocean saga released, but sadly very little success so far.
Glad to see a reaction uploaded this early, but yeah Odysseus is for sure a lot more brutal than before. Like in Survive and Remember Them I was fully rooting for the crew but I kinda just felt bad here when he was saying to let them drown and kill them all
It's crazy, odysseus doesn't even realize he's becoming more of a monster than being ruthless. He could've killed them quickly but he specifically made his men cut off their tails and let them drown. A horrible way to die. I mean I don't blame him
The general theory for the 12 years line is the crew not knowing how long they've been going home, since Polites was the one who kept track of the calender
The 12 long years thing was a nod to the way Jay got it wrong 😭 basically on accident instead of saying 10 long years he said 12 instead but in the odyssey it makes sense especially since in the actual poem he spent a fair amount of time at circes abd at sea which explains the extra years but in the musical it was just a mistake that he was talking about as a little nod and an inside joke, additionally it does cover his mistake bc it allows us to take odysseus' words more as an off the cusp statement over the truth creating the ambiguity:)
Ok everyone is all, "wow that's brutal" about him throwing them back into the water to drown, but I think most people miss the fact that that is litterally their own MO, sirens lure sailors overboard and drown them, he gave them the fate they would have given him.
Where are your other reactions, though? Are they only Pateon? Or have you not reacted before until now? I can only see thunder saga, and the new versions of Troy Saga and cyclops saga reactions. But other than that great reaction, I love it so much finally, someone reacted to this as early as possible! Also, when is the last three songs reaction?
I don't understand why so many people are reacting to the story and not the actual music. The Odyssey is OLD like INSANELY old and that's the story/poem/books (whatever you want to call them) that the musical is taken from, it's not just some madeup story using greek mythology characters (though I guess that's technically what the actual story is). I see comments about people saying "wonder what X meant by this" in the older songs or "can't wait to know what he does next" like seriously has nobody read the insanely popular and amazing piece of literature that is The Odyssey
This is a new adaptation and a new interpretation of an old story, the original Odissey is not a love story and it doesn't follow the mercy/ruthlesness motif.
"We should spare them because they're amazing singers!"
Yeah,Considering they're sirens, That's the issue
I mean….if Scylla likes sea food it might’ve been good to save six of them…
@nothri
OMG- WAIT THAT ACTUALLY WOULD HAVE WORKED- HE COULD HAVE PREVENTED THE REST OF THE SAGA! NOOOO-
@@CyrahLia_459Not so sure Scylla was gonna be happy about recieving six rotten corpses, sea travel takes a long time, besides they are a nymph of sorts just like she was.
The little detail that they open with Penelope's motif, but not her instrument...
Yeah, there were also synths. Penelope’s instrument is a violin. There were little to no violins in her part so we knew it wasn’t her. Another thing is that synths are usually played when a supernatural force is around.
When I first heard it i was so confused. (The challenge is my fav song) I was like WHERE IS THE VIOLIN?!
@@ChaosQueen1575Penelope's instrument is the viola, not the violin
I was like "nobody would have reacted to this already huh😞" im glad i was wrong🤣😍
Mood.
Same!
Same
Same
Tbh me too I was hoping that someone would already react to it in 5:13 am plus I'm in the Philippines
Odysseus promised himself to be a ruthless monster from now on, and he took that to heart...
Scylla is even telling him "We're lonely demons from hell, and you're a monster just like me for sacrificing your men" All of her lines sink into Odysseus and his second. Pushing his second to confess, and for Odysseus to make the call to randomly select 6 men to die so they could escape.
he the monster rawr rawr
Man is NOT greeting the world with open arms.
Fun fact! Suffering and Different Beast are like. the only two songs we have never heard any snippets for up till this point!
2 months ago someone found a snippet of suffering and decided to put it in an Epic cut songs playlist lmfao
I’m sure there r probably other songs but still
No Jorge released a part of scylla, and we heard part of thunder bringer (at least for me I honestly have not heard anything from suffering and different beast, but that might just be me)
Fun fact sirens in Greek mythology are half bird half lady but have been mixed up with mermaids in pop culture
Thank you! I wasn't sure myself but thought "Tails? Aren't sirens supposed to look like harpies and not mermaids?" So I was right!
Yeah I was confused about that.
The transition between these two was wild in the live, it comes out of nowhere lol
i didn’t even realize that they’re two songs because the transition is so good and unexpected
Ikr! I had to listen to them side by side twice just to figure out where the cut to the next song was 😂
The fan theory is that Polities kept track of the calendar for the crew (so he would know when everyone's birthday was!). Since he died no one has been keeping track and Odysseus is just guessing at this point.
Politese carried the calendar confirmed
The Thunder saga is just Ody tweaking out for 20 mins and I love it 😂
About the 12 or 10 years thing, in the actual Odyssey it was 12 years at that point, but Epic the musical didn't really justify 2 extra years had passed since the Trojan War (although it's not implausible). So it was meant to be 10 years in There Are Other Ways, but since they made an oopsie Jorge basically said to make up whatever headcannon we want about those extra 2 years.
Honestly you could just say that between some of the saga’s there has been enough sailing time that passed to be at least 2 years. I don’t think it’s that hard to explain away.
Jorge intentionally hid these two song so nobody knew anything about them. He successfully built hype and delivered.
Yes, Jalapeño was wrong about the years and said "Well I screwed up once, let's say it was 12 years"
Honestly I like to think that Odysseus is just guessing each time
I think the line is funny because it makes it sound like Odesseyus doesn’t actually know the years
This time it was 12 years because in the odyssey he spent 2 years at Circe palace
@@FungalHarmony I mean, it works as an excuse, but the reality is that jalapeño screwed up jsjsjs
@@jacobbayne-hw2zv It is, but it makes me laugh how jalapeño forgot that it was 10 and not 12 years and he completely screwed up
If I’m remembering correctly, in Greek mythology Sirens are fated to die when a ship hears their song and passes by unharmed, so simply killing them, let alone cutting off their tails and letting them drown, feels a little gratuitous. Odysseus really went extra for this
*ruthlessness is mercy upon ourselves…*
Mutiny was such a good twist 😮
I love how all reactors "passam pano" (defend Odi) at the begginig... and then when he says to cut off their tails and let them drown... everyone's like... "uhm, ok, we were on the same page until one second ago" LOL
So glad someone already reacted so we can suffer together!
Guys I think she might like naruto
You think?
Just a little bit 🤷♀️
What makes you say that
I never would have gotten that idea.
Nah, that's totally Bleach.
Damn, Jorge really went and made Ody pull a "sharkfin hunting" on the sirens, sh*ts f*cked up.
8:43 you know ody is tucking his hair in his ear lol😂
Man is NOT greeting the world with open arms.
🤣🤣🤣
This saga is indeed slaying, like Odysseus in war.
I’m going to need the rest of the thunder saga right now.
I’ve just posted it ☺️
@@thebookbatcave watching as we speak! I was shook at Scylla too
He is a different beast now. He is the one who feasts now ...
And it seems Siren Tail is on the menu.
Anna’s voice is SO gorgeous, I’m so happy we got a song with her already!! I’m so goddamn excited for when we actually get to meet Penelope properly
Yeah the way the sirens were treated was cruel, but it was also pretty efficient all things considered. Odysseus has truly embraced that ruthlessness is mercy upon ourselves.
Yes, on there are other ways Jorge made a mistake on the numbers and no one caught it. He accidentally said 12 instead of 10. He made a tiktok about it, but he just had to roll with it because well, the other song is already released so he can't backtrack now and say 10. Saying about 12 years or so is like a cover up of sorts
Great to see another kiwi fan of Epic!
I've been trying to get friends and family into it since the Ocean saga released, but sadly very little success so far.
Your reactions are so good 😭
Going from
Yesss Odysseus kill those sirens, you have to see your wife, to
🧍♀️ Okay that’s a little brutal
Calling odysseus ody is now cannon in the EPIC universe 😂
I was just waiting for you to realize the twist.
Lol
The whole time I was laughing and being all smug cuz I knew you weren’t prepared for the plot twists and everything 😂😂😂
Jumping from Troy from Thunder is actually insane
Making the sirens die the same way their victims die...
Glad to see a reaction uploaded this early, but yeah Odysseus is for sure a lot more brutal than before. Like in Survive and Remember Them I was fully rooting for the crew but I kinda just felt bad here when he was saying to let them drown and kill them all
Great video! And yes! The 12 king years was supposed to be 10 lol!
It should be at least 11 if we're going by the myths since he spent a year with Circe
@@James-nr2hiyea it did end up working out in their favor later ,and also made some cool fan theories :)
@@THEtactocalRoach true
@@James-nr2hiand the year of no wind, where the Greeks were stranded after mustering at Sparta (or Mycene cannot remember which) to go to Troy.
when you listen to the prophet talk he tells the next events in the songs
A song of past romance
Dude I had all the same reaction 😂😂
15:16 yes that is true Jorge has said so himself.
It's crazy, odysseus doesn't even realize he's becoming more of a monster than being ruthless. He could've killed them quickly but he specifically made his men cut off their tails and let them drown. A horrible way to die. I mean I don't blame him
Ughhh it’s just so good 😭
You are correct, it's supposed to be 10 years. Jorge made a joke about it in a youtube short a while back.
The general theory for the 12 years line is the crew not knowing how long they've been going home, since Polites was the one who kept track of the calender
me trying to name as many series as i can in the back as you fangirl every other second in the front wasnt on my bingo card for today.
The 12 long years thing was a nod to the way Jay got it wrong 😭 basically on accident instead of saying 10 long years he said 12 instead but in the odyssey it makes sense especially since in the actual poem he spent a fair amount of time at circes abd at sea which explains the extra years but in the musical it was just a mistake that he was talking about as a little nod and an inside joke, additionally it does cover his mistake bc it allows us to take odysseus' words more as an off the cusp statement over the truth creating the ambiguity:)
I love epic the musical so much these songs were just magical really its all soo great
Ok everyone is all, "wow that's brutal" about him throwing them back into the water to drown, but I think most people miss the fact that that is litterally their own MO, sirens lure sailors overboard and drown them, he gave them the fate they would have given him.
I think Polites was keeping track of how long time’s passed during the Trojan war, and now that he’s gone They don’t know how long times past
Where are your other reactions, though? Are they only Pateon? Or have you not reacted before until now? I can only see thunder saga, and the new versions of Troy Saga and cyclops saga reactions. But other than that great reaction, I love it so much finally, someone reacted to this as early as possible! Also, when is the last three songs reaction?
I’ve only just started the channel so these are the first reactions. I’ve also just posted the reaction to the last 3 songs in the Thunder Saga!
zwist did the cover art for the thunder saga i believe
@@BlazeIsEpic hello here
New sub! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️❤
i am new here and i saw chatnoir's oicture INSTANTLY SUBCRIBING AND EPIC FAN AND MLB OMG
It is 10 years, not 12 😂
10 years of war, the journey home (in progress) is taking a few years more
It’s 12 now lol. One small mistake in there are other ways caused this.
Time passed between islands. They weren’t exactly just days of sailing apart.
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The video explaining it was so funny 😂 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
but reactions, good comments, and good discussions.
I don't understand why so many people are reacting to the story and not the actual music. The Odyssey is OLD like INSANELY old and that's the story/poem/books (whatever you want to call them) that the musical is taken from, it's not just some madeup story using greek mythology characters (though I guess that's technically what the actual story is). I see comments about people saying "wonder what X meant by this" in the older songs or "can't wait to know what he does next" like seriously has nobody read the insanely popular and amazing piece of literature that is The Odyssey
This is a new adaptation and a new interpretation of an old story, the original Odissey is not a love story and it doesn't follow the mercy/ruthlesness motif.
random, but the seido team on your wall
Odysseus crashing out
When will the next part come out?
We don’t know.
@@alisond929 ok
Probably labor day
I’ve just uploaded it 😊
Where is the rest?
Just uploaded 😊
Poseidon not afreyd from Scylla this write for the musical
omg i love this but just so you know… the title says “different monster” instead of “different beast”