The Mandalorian: Season 3... Why It Sucks
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- The Mandalorian Season 3 brings to us the return of The Mandalorian and Grogu as the embark on an adventure to retake Mandalore from the evil Empire and Moff Gideon only on Disney Plus. This season of Star Wars: The Mandalorian heavily features the likes of The Armorer but more prominently Bo Katan Kryze. With Star Wars: The Mandalorian Season 3 focusing mostly on Din Djarin, Grogu, and Bo Katan, how did the season turn out. In this video essay, I discuss the newest Star Wars season The Mandalorian Season 3 and Why It's NOT Great.
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0:00 - The Mandalorian: Season 3... Why It's NOT Great
0:48 - The Cloud of Boba Fett
5:50 - Episodes 1-5
17:35 - Episode 6
22:57 - Episode 7&8
34:10 - A Future Bright or Dim?
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The Mandalorian Season 3 brings to us the return of our favorite Mandalorian and Yoda esque duo in Star Wars. After the somewhat negative reception of the book of boba fett, many fans were either skeptical of this new season of the mandalorian or excited for Star Wars to get back to some high level storytelling. With the promise of retaking Mandalore, there was a lot to be excited about. With that being said, how did the Mandalorian Season 3 turn out? Was it as good as the previous two seasons? Was the dark cloud of the book of boba fett too much to overcome? Did the season do a good job at progressing the Mandoverse? Hello everybody and welcome to another video, my name is the gold man and today we are going to talk about the mandalorian season 3.
Before we discuss The Mandalorian Season 3, we need to discuss the giant dark cloud that hangs over this season. And that is the Book of Boba Fett. If you watched my Book of Boba Fett 1 year later video I made a few months back, you would know I have a strong hatred for the series. There are a lot of Star Wars shows and movies I don’t like. The Bad Batch is one for example. I may dislike it, but at least I can say it’s its own series that is completely harmless. Or a movie like Solo, a fine movie that doesn’t do any harm to anyone. I cannot say the same thing about the book of boba fett. Sure most of the series is inconsequential. Like what happened with the war on Tatooine as of right now doesn’t affect anything else. But the decisions they made with Mando and his story have great consequences. Firstly, as we all know it greatly diminishes the ending of Mando season 2. Mando and Grogu’s emotional goodbye was now undone only a year later. Now at the time I came to terms with the fact that Mando season 2 was kinda diminished, but I had optimism that this decision wouldn’t ruin Mando season 3. I thought that they would surely explain that Mando and Grogu were reunited in a different show. And for viewers that didn’t watch Book of Boba, it would be weird for a second but that’ll be it. The story would be able to progress. But boyyyyy was I wrong. The first episode of the season makes no attempt to explain what happened. All we get is Mando saying he completed his mission and then Grogu was returned to him. At the end of the day I get that this is all semantics. If we took the exact episodes of the book of boba fett and put them under “The Mandalorian” title, then this wouldn’t be a problem. It’s kinda the same thing about the complaints about there being Mando episodes in Boba Fett. People only complained because the title of the series was “The Book of Boba Fett” and 2 episodes barely featured Boba Fett. So I get those who disagree with me telling me if I ignore show titles this isn’t a problem. Sure it isn’t a problem to me, but again, what about the people who hadn’t watched Boba Fett. Other than the story, what made the mandalorian appealing to so many people was that it was its own story. I know people that watched the first season of the mandalorian when it came out without seeing any of the movies and they understood it perfectly. The Mandalorian was a show that came with no extra baggage. The Mandalorian Season 2 received some criticism for having pre-existing characters show up like Boba Fett, Bo Katan, ahsoka, and Luke. But I’ve always disagreed with this criticism. Yeah I didn’t like seeing Boba Fett, but with the other 3 you didn’t need to know who they were to understand what was going on.
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Going from season 2 to season 3 when rewatching this show is gonna hit like a whiplash
screw you moron. piss off then!!!
im not looking forward to it
Yup my mom experienced that, not fun 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
season 2 < season 3 🤷♂️
Still completely baffling to me that the Darksaber, arguably this season's main focus, was handed over to Bo due to a TECHNICALITY, which was only addressed several episodes later, when it became convenient for the plot.
I totally agree, strange decision
A technicality could be something like this: "who has the darksaber will rule Mandalore", it sounds cool but is actually very stupid and lazy writing, so getting rid of it was necessary, well done.
By this technicality, then Rey should have the Dark Saber (if it wasn't destroyed). Palp defeated Maul. Luke was the only one to walk away from the DSII scuffle between himself, Vader, and Palp. Kylo defeated Luke. Rey beats Kylo.
Darth Empress Rey Palpatine-Skywalker, The Mandalore
I think the intention is to make it clear that the dark saber is ultimately pointless and an obstacle to Mandalorian unification. But it's just...weird
@@tacticalidiots2340 maybe, but I think is more like an intended evolution to the typical Hollywood story, always centered on epic magical stuff and not on people.
Should have kept BOBF Boba centered and made S3 with the main plot around Mando's quest for atonement and him missing Grogu, while a subplot focusing on Grogu's training with Luke, trauma surrounding Order 66 and him choosing to return. Make the reunion as a season final pay-off. And then, made S4 about recapturing Mandalore, with its politics as a subplot, instead of an episode's main plot.
Yeppers
I said the same thing when they had the reunion in Book of Boba it completely ruined everything because we never had a chance to miss Dinn and Grogu being together they couldn’t even wait for Mando’s show I guess toy sales matter most
@@jamiegodfather Selling the merch was always the final goal in SW, though Disney seems to have the MCU issue: a lot of products, tight timetables and basically, the same people involved. With the exception of Andor, where fresh blood was brought in. And it shows...
You could've dedicated an entire season to Mando rejecting the dogma of the Watch (something HEAVILY foreshadowed in S2) and Grogu rejecting the dogma of the Jedi before reuniting them.
@@B463L It's not late to do that, since Bo Kataan reunited all clans.
I think Andor really opened people’s eyes to what a Star Wars show can be when it really tries to be something more, so the fact that Mandalorian is still clinging to it’s comfort zone is just no longer as impressive as it used to be.
I don't want every show to be like andor, but every show has something to learn from Andor
It’s not even clinging to a comfort zone. This and season one are completely different shows tonality. One feels like live action clone wars. The arcs and dialogue both make it feel that way.
@@thegoldman25 I agree that not every show needs to be like Andor but in some aspects it really must be. Just in a general sense. Andor had great acting, writing, and pacing what, tbh is something I expect from every show. Mando season 3 had some great visual FX but at the same time the Imperial base in the last 2 episodes for me felt super plastic and fake. Also Andor is more realistic then any star wars content we ever seen what definitely shouldnt be the standard for Star Wars. But sometimes if feel that a realistic moment or a good/real conversation can really help in Mando. Most conversations and interactions have become super surface level and really doesnt work.
@@franzferdinand5810That’s because Andor barely had any action scenes, and the few that were there were just between basic dudes with guns, not a Mandalorian or a Jedi or something. Which means that they knew they had to rely on their dialogue to keep people interesting, which resulted in the dialogue being pretty damn amazing
@@littleoldmanboy At first, I thought the dialogue was mind-numbing when you watch it, but as I continue to dwell deep in it, I get the picture, and I totally agree with you.
Late but I thought season 3 would be about Din and the fact the Darksaber would make him the ruler of mandalore, he's made it clear multiple times he has no interest in being a leader/ruler so I thought it would be interesting to see Din's internal struggles of missing Grogu and begrudgingly but slowly becoming the leader his people need.
That and potential conflict between Din and Bo over the Darksaber
Grogu's asassin droid mech is the kind of thing I would make while playing with action figures
Agreed
@@thegoldman25 mandalorian season 3 should be a guide on "how to make taking back your homeland as boring as possible"
This is probably my favorite video about this season. That line of “it’s not my job to be invested, that’s down to the storytellers” is something I literally said to my friends while watching this season.
It's a great quote hahaha, thanks for watching!
I think you honestly just didn't get it. You have to be invested in the larger entire world of star wars and all its characters to find this season interesting. You have to understand the big picture of the gaps it's filling in, in the overall timeline of the starters universe and the political history going on.
It requires fans to actually have watched all the other films too.
@@jessicamessica2271 I have seen all the films, and all the shows. I love the star wars universe and loved the first two seasons of mando. But this season fails to tell an emotionally investing story. At that point how it advances the “bigger picture” doesn’t matter that much to me.
@Nexus_Edge I found it compelling. I loved it personally. For me, it was emotional watching Din risk his life to travel to mandelor to rejoin his tribe.
I also found it emotionally compelling to see Bo Katan meet with Dins tribe and begin to clear her own name as a former ruler. She wasn't as bad as the rumors made her out to be.
I do think it was a little to much Bo Katan in the show, and it would be nice to have more Din.Alot of people seem to be mad it put her in position of leadership of mandelor rather than Din. But she did save his life twice, so I think it was fair for him to give her the sabot. Also retaking mandelor was originally her plan in season 2, not Dins, so they would have to work that out somehow.
Idk I loved it personally. I don't get it.
When I was watching season 3, I kept asking myself “why do I feel a little disappointed? It’s doing what I want. It’s focusing on the mandalorians, all of them.” And I realized it just felt sloppy and very distracted. And why is Greef surprised that not paying pirates who you borrowed money from leads to disaster and the people don’t call him out. Grogu should’ve just been with Luke and we see his progress. And for some reason, a lot of the stunts and effects look really cheap. The Bad batch out did it and I enjoyed it more than mando. What happened?
I felt the same way
it's all about quantity, they are just producing "stuff" that people can watch.
It was so good, as a major diehard fan myself I loved it
described me watching ep 1-3 so well
Bad Batch had some peak episodes this season
My biggest gripe is that for Bo Katan basically being the main character, she doesn't progress from where she was last seen in Mando S2, coming to terms with her not being the one with the right to reunite Mandalore, but instead goes from depressed due to her failures to REGRESSING back to her her characterization in Rebels and Clone Wars where she feels entitled by her blood right to leadership of her people and regains that right due to technicality.
She could have come to terms with the fact that she's really not suited to seizing the Mandalore system, which she's basically just bungled since the middle of the Clone Wars or like 20 years in canon, and leveraged that in an advisory role to Din who really felt like her earned that right even if he didn't necessarily want it.
Instead they opted to ignore her experience and threw the legendary weapon away unceremoniously.
She’s the lamest character in the show. 0 depth.
My brother and I love star wars, we love getting into deep conversations about it, I felt the same way you did, especially with the regression of "it's my blood that must reclaim-" topic of Bo. Yet my brother didn't see it that way, & it was a verbal fight for a hour 🤣 glad to see someone saw what I did, it's vital criticisms that are very valid!!
Honestly I looked forward to the Bad Batch more than the Mandalorian every Wednesday when they were both airing side-by-side months ago.
Ep.12 "The Outpost" alone was better than the entirety of Mando S3 tbh.
@@xkmuffinzx3915 Fr, that episode was peak.
The season did show us that Grogu is growing and getting more and more independent (he even managed to save Din on his own at the end) so there is that at least.
I suppose, not really character development tho
He’s literally saved him before
He's saved him before and din gets saved by almost everyone in this season so that's not really saying much.
As a person who loves season 1 and 2 I completely agree with evaluation of this one.
I love seasons 1 and 2 as well, thanks for watching!
I’m not watching it right now but what’d he say because this finale was amazing, perfect ending
I would rather have seen the Gideon clones waking up and beating the shit out of Din and Bo using the force and then have that scene with Axe Woves crashing the ship killing them all and Grogu protecting them from the fire than having them die the way they did
agreed
seeing a bunch of naked gustavo frings beating the fuck out of Din and Bo would’ve been really funny
If that happen probably everyone would hate that
One thing I'm really happy about is that the ending of this season set the show up to go back to just Mando and Grogu adventures.
oh 100%
I feel cheated out of a space battle. I thought we'd be seeing a huge battle for Mandalore both planetside and in space. That LEGO set made me think we'd see fighters take on interceptors, with infantry hijacking ships mid-flight. I wanted to see imperial cruisers go head-to-head.
That’s a movie budget, watch the movies for big space battles
@@mclovinpobut the movies dont even have space battles
The ending of this season felt like an end to the show and mandalore’s story. There’s supposed to be a season 4 but I feel like you can end this show here since Gideon is dead, Mandalore is reclaimed and the Mandalorians are united. Sure there’s going to be a build up to Filoni’s movie but I just personally feel like this show can end things here and Din, Grogu and Bo Katan can appear in other projects as supporting characters. I’m just not sure what a season 4 can bring to the table outside of cute baby yoda moments and fighting Imperials.
it'll be interesting
I don't think Gideon is dead, I think ultimately he'll end up being killed by Thrawn during the heir to the empire movie!
@@kdusel1991 I really hope he’s dead. Star Wars has too many fake out deaths at this point.
While you are definitely correct I feel like season four is opening the door to the heir of the empire movie which will prominently featured Grogu and the Mandalorian
@@Spud1189 I'm of two minds about it because...yeah Star Wars has had too many fakeout deaths, but bringing Gideon back just to kill him in such a lame way is bizarre to me
Calling it now, The Mandalorian S4 pilot opening line: "Somehow Moff Gideon returned.."
I’ll throw a fit
My thoughts exactly 😒
First season: keep kid save
Second season: bring kid home while keeping him save
Third season: go bathing, side quest on corusant, do another side quest.
thats how it be
I think the biggest let down for me with this season was the inconsistency. The ending itself was decent and definitely wholesome, but I just wish the actual season had been more enjoyable. The plot was all over the place and it felt like we left off things that were supposed to be important such as IG-11, the Mythosaur, and the Darksaber. Instead we were having dinner parties with Jack Black! Din and Grogu also being sidelined for Bo-Katan pissed me off as well because Bo-Katan is supposed to get her own show later, yet it felt like she took the spotlight in season 3 of Mando’s show. I really believe there was a lot of potential this season, but instead the first 6 episodes just felt like a massive waste of time. Definitely a disappointing season overall which is honestly depressing because the show itself really is good.
Good points I definitely agree with
We don’t even know if she is getting her own series
It’s pretty apparent the writers room had no idea what to do with this season from beginning to end. This entire season felt like filler. It’s also pretty clear that this show is slowly being morphed into the “retcon show” to make the sequels make sense.
I tend to agree
i think the importance of the darksaber arc to mando is that he has essentially been trying to shirk the responsibility of it without having it known that he is doing so. When he duels vizla it is more an answer to a challenge than any desire to keep the blade. Even bo seems shocked at the use of the technicality, but she has always been one to pounce at a chance for influence and power and so accepts the premise. I hope that there becomes an arc where he works on this, but.. who knows
Not liking Bad Batch is craaazzzyyy Bad Batch is some of the best animation since Clone Wars! Especially season 2 it was soooo good
Sorry!
Even with its faults BB S2 hit way harder than Mando S3.
While this season isn't great, I still enjoyed it! especially the later half!
same! (except for 6)
@@thegoldman25 I actually enjoyed 6 quite a bit!
Is great just no a piece of art
My thoughts: The whole technicality of the exchange of the saber between Jarin and Katan was set up visually pretty well in that spider droid episode (I even remember thinking to myself, oh it's hers now). It also hammers home how bs the whole concept is (further hammered home by the actual destruction of the saber), but also how Jarin is aware of and accepting of the others' customs. Honestly reminded me of what Tony Stark told Peter Parker: "If you're nothing without the suit, then you shouldn't have it."
Also I'm pretty sure the stinger at the end of season 2 literally says, "The Mandalorian will return in The Book of Boba Fett."
good points
OFC, Mando could've returned in TBOBF without... well, how it happened.
I disagree I would have preferred them finding out the custom was outdated and stupid through a duel but that's just me.
The only way the whole Gideon cloning trash would be justified is if it was all a distraction from Hux's dad's "Project Necromancer" (smt related to reviving Palpatine or making Snoke), making it seem that all the midichlorians went to making Sith-Gideon troopers to the New Republic
Interesting idea
Would love to know what you think if Disney went on to do six episode shorts like Tales of the Jedi with other concepts.
1. Tales of the Jedi (season 2)
2. Tales of the Sith
3. Stories from the Bounty Hunter Guild
4. Stories from Clone Commanders.
The last one I came up with when we met Mayday in Bad Batch. Plus, Clone Wars fans could get continued Clone stories from ones we haven’t met or casual run into from existing stories.
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The final two episodes had way too many moments that made absolutely no logic.
- Gideon doesn`t kill Din Djarin, but escort him with two (!!) troopers.
- Gideon somehow has a tracking device on both Din Djarin and Grogu. He sees exactly where they are and he couldn`t give a fuck less that they are getting close to his clones, yet appears very angry and shocked, after something that he could have stopped, happens.
- ...and this is a minor one, I guess, but Moff Gideon destroys Bo Katan`s dark saber, by clinching his fist, yet Bo Katan`s hand, which he was crushing as well, at the same time, is completely ok.
yeah, a lot of weird shit
He doesn't have a tracking device specifically on Mando and Grogu, rather it's technology that enables you to see things and people, similar to a security camera or radar.
THANK YOU. I ALSO THOUGHT THE SEASON WAS GONNE BE ABOUT DJINN QUESTIONING HIS CLAN. I was honestly disappointed when the series pivoted away from that.
IMO third season is one big mess. I thought after parting with Grogu and being banished from his clan he would have to overcome his reluctance to lead and use previous character development to take responsibility as head of state for Mandalore, that taking back the planet would be hard and it will require building alliances and resolving conflicts (like with Bo-Katan, who wants the sabre). Instead they undone all the progress to sell more merch, and had no idea what to do with titular characters of the show. No wonder Pedro Pascal didn't even bother to come on set most of the time.
By FAR my biggest problem with this season was that I did not like Boka Tan. She's stubborn, egotistical and annoying when she's on screen. And the worst part? She never had character growth. Instead of finally accepting that the darksaber doesn't belong to her or something along those lines, perhaps a character arc or something, she just gets her ego fulfilled and is just as boring as she was prior.
I would have rather seen the darksaber lost, broken, stolen, or destroyed prior to her finally obtaining it. It would bring more clarity and relatability to her character, rather than the "oh she beat the thing that jumped me while I was off-guard".
Just imagine her chasing the darksaber after it had fallen off a cliff, or desperately scrambling to repair it - some kind of struggle would have been far more compelling and entertaining.
Love ur videos bro. Always surprises me u don’t have more subs, your in for slot of success my man! Keep up the work
Thank you so much! I appreciate the kind words a lot
Hey @The Gold Man, can you might do a video on "What The Rise of Skywalker did better than The Mandalorian Season 3" and cover some aspects on what The Rise of Skywalker did way better than The Mandalorian Season 3 had by comparing them? I still love The Rise of Skywalker better than The Mandalorian in general.
i doubt it
Not sure if this has been confirmed yet so take this with a grain of salt, but supposedly Kathleen Kennedy really dipped her hands in after S2, specifically Grogus return to Mando, and John Favero even threatened to quot because of it, only staying because shes not allowed to do anything with Ashoka. This would really explain why BoBF and mando S3 really left us feeling disappointed
I don't know if that's true either, but it would make a lot of sense if it was. There was consistency with the first two seasons of The Mandalorian--it was following a plan--and then things began to fall apart. I can say with confidence that it certainly wasn't planned for Grogu to reunite with Mando. That decision had Disney higher ups written all over it, and Kathleen Kennedy makes the most sense.
In general, I love Star Wars. There are always moments that could be more, in TV or Movies (I never saw the animated shows) but overall, it is a great escape from the craziness of life. The Mandalorian is the 'family' show. Andor is the 'mature' show. Boba is... variety? Haha.
Truthfully, I like them all equally. I am looking forward to Ahsoka, since I never saw Clone Wars and would like to learn more about her. I especially am eager to watch more of Andor. I hope Boba and Obi-Wan get a season 2, as I really enjoyed those shows as well.
With the announcement of Rey having a film in the future, I am just very grateful for all the fun Star Wars content. I am just a TV/Movie goer, but there are books, comics, cartoons, video games etc. Star Wars is one of the best franchises as there really is something for everyone, of any person, out there to enjoy, get into, and relate. Star Wars is just really cool, man!
Love your videos, Gold Man. I enjoy hearing your discussions on our Galaxy far, far, away....
I like your star wars takes. It's really fresh and reminds us the franchise is really not uptight as the fans try to make it out to be.
Great video man
I appreciate that you ended the video on an optimistic note for the Disney Star Wars era.
It felt so refreshing compared to all the negativity and hate it receives.
Damn it feels only yesterday your channel had only a few thousand subscribers, now your at 41K insane! Keep up the great content!
Thank you so much! I’ll try my best to keep providing you content to enjoy!
Something I just realized is that seasons 1 and 2 are very character-driven but season 3 was plot-driven which could have worked if they actually focused on the plot and if the plot was interesting. The problem is that it’s not even the same show.
I feel that our expectations are now spoiling the experience. I loved the season, I’m not sure if it’s what people think should happen that make them think that the season was poorly done, but I would argue it’s on par with the previous ones. Whilst I don’t want to go into too much detail, I would say that previous season had a novelty factor but if we were truly to analyse them there was a lot of silliness and supposedly weird episodes, and weird character pivots. The same goes for Clone Wars and Rebels. Having said that, I still love all of these shows and accept them as the overall story that is being told. The only Star Wars product I will never accept are the sequels. There’s not much redemption there which is why I hope the characters and those involved in set design, VFC etc will get another spin in a reset/alternate time but time will tell. I really did try to give them a chance, but to me they’re simply unwatchable. At least the shows have more or less definitive ending so one can just finish at the point they wish to finish and pretend like the rest never happened.
One point on Grogu, I disagree that there was no character development. For one you have to look at him as 3 year old child that operates on instinct and perception. He is becoming more trusting, he’s becoming more assertive in his actions as well. On that note, my question here is, what would be a character development for a 3 year old? I think them treading carefully makes a lot more sense then all of a sudden seeing Grogu having moral and existential crisis.
I never watched bobf and at the beginning of season 3 I had no idea what was going on. I had to go back and check that season 2 ended how I remembered because I was just confused thinking "........isn't he with luke? why is he with mando?"
Says “I freaked out when Zeb had a cameo, because I love rebels.” Then at 19:14 “I couldn’t give a s**t that they referenced Count Dooku.” I usually like this guy for giving everything Star Wars a fair shot, and if his opinion is taken into account he usually admits that. But here it’s just clear opinion and complete bias.
5:00 one thing to add is grogu did save Din from the imperial commandos in the finale
You fun hater you! 😅just kidding. I disagree with some of your points about cutting out moments that imo allowed for character development in a way that streaming shows of various lengths between episodes can where films can’t. Overall I agree with you about the amount of extraneous stuff packed into a show originally known for having no fat on the bone. Season 1 episodes each left me wanting 5-10 more minutes of content but not able to deny that the showed and told the exact amount of story intended each time. Hopefully s4 along with Ashoka will be good. Thanks for the content 👍
Thanks for watching!
@@thegoldman25 glad to👍
Why would there have to be some big goodbye seen at the end? In this story alone they visit everyone several times. The second season ended with Mando thinking he wouldn’t see Grogu again while here he just decides to live in a planet away from the Mandalorians. The only goodbye scene needed was for Paz and his kid. He ignores orders for his kid and that should’ve been the case in the end with him doing it mainly for his kid or asking for them to look after his kid.
I liked season 3, but i can agree with most of your points. Gotta say i love the positive tone in your reviews. It’s very refreshing. Great videos.
Something that seemed so obvious which is crazy they didn’t do is Moff Gideon being defeated by the mythosaur symbolically being rejected and defeated by the mandalorian culture
this season felt more like a Clone Wars plot than "The Mandalorian". Which was fine, I enjoyed it enough, but it felt like it lost a bit of the initial magic of the series
It really did didn’t it?
I'm a Diehard star trek fan but I absolutely love the Mandalorian
Gold man, more like no fun man. Great video! I enjoy all your videos man.
Hahaha thanks for watching!
9:36 Also to note: a rule that was never mentioned in any of the previous appearances. Maul claimed it as a trophy because it was a uniting symbol, not because it was an actual rule. In rebels the Darksaber was given to Bo Katan after it was stolen by Sabine from Maul. No rule then. It was only a rule for that specific scene.
I'm just kinda tired of Star Wars at the moment, and that sucks as a fan. I think Season 3 overall was pretty good, but it had moments that either didn't belong or should have been in its own show. However, I think my biggest problem this season is how it didn't take any risks. The mythosaur? Still asleep. Mandalore? Retaken in 2 episode. Any conflicts between the clans reuniting? Couple scenes of chess and its resolved. Honestly, I can see myself hanging up my hat on this finale if season 4 is canceled or is super bad. I'm disappointed but at the same time satisfied. I want something radically different and hopefully Ahsoka is it.
You’re right it wasn’t great, it was amazing, I feel like I’m one of the only diehard fans that have been with Star Wars my whole life left, I love everything even the sequels, they may be the worst but I still rewatch them sometimes
Hey, last Jedi and force awakens are great movies
@@thegoldman25 they are. But far inferior to The Rise of Skywalker, which is an amazing movie.
@@palpatinesboi9549say sike
One point on the darksaber, we have Ezra returning to the galaxy now and the possibility of Huyang’s return, who likely witnessed and guided the creation of the darksaber, there’s the potential for its repair - perhaps if Huyang and Sabine return, the mandalorian Jedi with an ancestral claim on the blade as a member of house visla (clan wren), as she hasn’t made a lightsaber herself, perhaps they’re hiring at the reclaiming of the darksaber from Bo
I agree, I think changing the two mando-focused BOBF episodes to be the first few episodes of s3 would’ve allowed the whiplash pacing to breathe a little, as well as solve the grogu/mando separation issue for the audience that didn’t watch BOBF.
also, are the show runners afraid to weave plots together? the dr. pershing/first order plot was interesting, but needed to be woven into the season as a whole. overall, I found it to be a pretty forgettable season of television (still very excited for ahsoka though!!!)
Did you forget that moff Gideon would still be loose if grogu didn't save din in the last episode
I've wanted to do rewrite videos on my other channel for a while, but seeing this video made me REALLY want to do one soon! Because this season only needed a few small tweaks here and there (and a big one or 2) to have been REALLY good in my opinion!
Man, your videos are so good 👍🙏
Thank you!
I also really like your thumb nail designs. They are really unique and recognisable 👍👍
Completely agree on the fact that the season was almost concluding and I still had no idea what the actual story was meant to be about. This season was so lousy and such a let down, unbelievable how Disney have killed the show just to cash grab off of grogu
It was a missed opportunity to not show Grogu bring trained by Luke, showing a reveal of when Yoda trained Luke
The problem with the Disney approach of naming properties is that every one is named after a specific character. Had Ep. 4 come out today, it would be called "Luke Skywalker". They should have named it "A New World" or something and allowed it to be different seasons focusing on different characters, and some characters pop in and out from time to time. Then we could negate the criticism "This episode isn't about the Mandalorian. This is filler!"
I hated in episode 6 how they CLEARLY SHOW that you can challenge another Mandalorian to a duel to the point of yielding instead of to the death. Bo could have fought Din in a non lethal duel and we’d get something with actual drama and stakes instead of “oh, she beat some monster that beat me you dorks didn’t see”
Am I crazy or is it partial Bo's fault that they lost Mandalore? She destabilised her sister's rule, got her killed and had the planet conquered by Maul. Why would anyone follow her?
Can I...get that gif/clip of Daisy Ridley winking anywhere?
Season 3 biggest problem for me was that it felt like a KIDS show. Season 1 and 2 had a healthy mix of being badass and still teenage friendly. I mean take the very first scene from season 1 episode 1 as a perfect example. It was badass cold and to the point, "I can bring you in cold, or i can bring you in warm". Show me 1 scene in all of season 3 that was anything close to that... The first episode of season 3 had fkn Sesame Street looking space pirates with cheesy Pirates of the Caribbean accents... It felt like i was watching a totally different show, and its not like it was TERRIBLE but after waiting years for the next season and getting what felt like a completely different show was extremely irritating....
When my then-child niece asked me if she thought she could watch S1, I said "only if you are ok with good characters dying". I mean, Kuiil's death still hurts!
My biggest gripe is Sabine I guess gave up on Mandalore completely despite her being the last representative of clan Wren. Yeah yeah her character is being pooped on currently but we didn’t know that during Mando S3…
Great video. Bloody shame... this show used to have a bit of magic for me, but s3 was a real let-down. I reckon getting started early in BOBF was actually not a great idea, kind of robbed this season of its plot. I hope they carry on and try again with something a bit fresh, I miss when Mando and Grogu were the main focus...
Hopefully season 4 goes back to basics
For future videos, can you focus on your hopes and fears on the next Rey movie? I’ve heard it could get rushed, and I think Finn potentially being there might make or break the movie.
For something totally far away from Star Wars: Consider watching and reviewing it The Gold Man way “Oshi no Ko” anime episode 1 (1+ hour long) and pretend it’s some kind of “The Force Awakens” setup for the entire story
Remember this is a warrior race. As kids theyre already in helmets. Some learning to use the jetpack. Youre not going to get alot of character from people who only know war. That why i understand bringing grogu back. Hes comical and emotional relief.
I still haven't forgiven Bo Katan for slapping Ashoka's ass in clone wars
You have great thumbnails!
Thanks again!
Thanks, you convinced me to finish season 3.
Honestly, I hope that the mandalorien start to do more standalone seasons. Each seasons with its own villain and new characters who might make an appearance later on (Either in Mandalorian or in other series). Not unlike older series such as Buffy. Having the Mandalorien being called in to defeat that villain and expand upon the lore. For example, I would have love to see the Mandalorians unite to create a Great Hunt. I assumed that this seasons would do that as they were called back to mandalore and there was mentions of beasts. Maybe we can get that in future seasons.
I would also like if there was a season (if not in Mandalorian then in future series) where the characters meet Thrawn and Ezra to fight off whatever threat is at the edge of the universe which is hinted at in several media. (The one Thrawn joins the Imperial to stop) Imagine having a mandalore, former imperial Thrawn, a jedi like Ashoka and whatever mess Ezra is (Seriously, can he be called a jedi? He was taught by Kaidan and Yoda, but also by Maul and a sith holocron along with the Bendu so what does that make him) fight a common enemy that even the sith Emperor feared. It would be something to work up towards.
I just want character development, but I like your ideas
I love the ending to this video. I'm very excited for the future.
Thanks!
I thought it was solid. Better than season 1 but not as good as season 2. I only recently found out that this season wasn't liked by fans online but it is what it is. I never agree with what Star Wars fans say on the internet so I tuned out pretty much all the channels and it made my experience with Star Wars a lot better
Star Wars fans are wild, you’re probably better of disagreeing with them
As we were watching the climax at the end of the season i turned to my husband and asked "after watching the first episode, could you in any way have predicted that this is where the season would end up?" And we agreed we couldn't have
in a good way or bad way?
@@thegoldman25 in a bad way. We agreed the season felt disjointed and kind of aimless for most of it
So nice to see someone give this series the critique that it deserves. I swear to god every time I was on Reddit 90% of the comments were “The newest episode is literally perfect 10/10”
Bobf was purely because they didn't know if pedro would come back. And the second he did they shoved 3 mando episodes in bobf
after season 1 it just feels like there is no point anymore. After season 2 especially. Baby yoda was brought to a jedi, Mando's goal is so utterly uninteresting i dont even remember what his goal was aside from getting the lil guy to a jedi. Season 2 and 3 basically have no point at all, characters have no motivation and its all just "shoot the incompetent stormtroopers, epically".
I also agree about Grogu being reunited so soon during Book of Boba. We could have flipped back and forth between jedi training and retaking Mandalor easily during Mando 3.
If the producers wanted to show Achmed as a jedi rescuing Grogu during Order 66, that could have easily been shown in a flashback when Luke was trying to discover any fears that block his force weilding. It didn't HAVE to be when sitting with the Armorer.
Grogu could go back to Din eventually, but let him grow a little too. Remember, Luke was not a traditional jedi. He didn't grow up with the code and rules. He probably wouldn't have forced his students to be jedi knights in the strictest form like the Old Republic day Jedi Order.
Personally, I feel like a lot of people didn't understand this season, because they haven't seen The Clone Wars or Rebels.
They also don't understand all the messages they've left since the first season.
It is not that Din and Grogu are no longer protagonists, The Mandalorian has always been clear in that regard.
the mandalorians are all
the tribes, the civilization, their warrior culture, every Mandalorian.
And they definitely had to close this arc.
It is obvious that Bo katan has to guide them, with his mistakes and failures, but he had to redeem himself.
She never hid.
I walk this path of redemption together with Din and him and Grogu, his part is being given; because together they are stronger, they have a greater purpose, they will return home and have a sense of belonging, strengthen ties and create new ones.
I think Bo won't be the leader of Mandalore for long, she was born to be in battle and on the move, not for "politics"
They definitely needed to close out this arc that would give them a guide for everyone or they would end up like "The Prince of Egypt" or a Moses type story.
The errors that I can notice are; the little time to want to tell and expose a lot of information.
And cutting long scenes that would give context to important aspects.
people please
Stop comparing Andor to The Mandalorian
In the end it is not the same product.
Mando doesn’t have a cool melee weapon anymore 😔 the beskar spear is gone and now so is the dark saber
They have been relying on the side quest story and grogu being cute to propel the plot for a little too long. I was getting tired of that formula in S2 but overall I liked so much else in S2 that I didn’t mind putting up with it.
The Mandalorian Season 1-2, The Book of Boba Fett and The Mandalorian Season 3 were the first arc of the New Republic storyline, hence why the "ending" vibes to Season 3.
Ahsoka, Skeleton Crew, The Mandalorian Season 4 and others will be the next arc, the Thrawn Campaign as i like to call.
We've now had TWO shows about bounty hunters that don't bounty hunt...
It’s so weird how they handled the children of the watch it seemed pretty obvious to me that they were criticizing this stance and that mando is a better person without those practices. But then they go back on that? It’s good that mando is back in the fold of the people who held back his emotional development and it’s aspirational to have that sort of belief
Great review I agree with your opion
Thanks for watching!
What do you want to see in mandolorian season 4
You're much nicer to this show than I am. Fine is far too high of praise.
I haven't finished the video yet so if it immediately gets overshadowed in five-minutes that's my bad..but I think I have an explanation or at least a loose one. There were some rumors and statements going around (take this with a grain of salt) that John Favreau had the story being messed with for the last 2 seasons, and during this season those people were essentially kicked off or he wouldn't produce it. So my theory is that Favreau was making what he wanted in the first place which was the story of the mandalorians taking their home. He never wanted grogu to leave or maybe even for din to become an apostate or allot of season twos plot points at all..which reminds me allot of The Last Jedi and The Rise of Skywalker which had a very similar problem.
I dont buy that
Dude, the story is Mandalorians are stronger together as a family. It was always the key to their strength and survival, and the Darksaber wasn't necessary to bring Mandalore back. And a resurgent Mandalore threatens the plans of the Imperial Remnant, so it ties into the larger story being set up. Bo's arc is resolved thanks to Mando having crossed paths with her, someone from a tribe she once despised. I feel like you could make this argument about any episode. Oh, what happened in the Season 2 finale? No story, just plot. 😕 They rescue Grogu, almost get killed, Luke comes back, whatever.
What fascinates me is that he used Star Trek font for a Star Wars video
Somewhere in the mess of Book of Boba Fett and Mandalorian Season 3 there is a pretty strong season. My only issue is the convenience of handing over the dark saber when it could’ve been such a strong story element in terms of conflict between Din and Bo Katan. Other than that I did still enjoy myself with it. Hopefully in Season 4, if it’s still happening, they go back to basics like in Season 1. As much as I like marinating in nostalgia and gazing upon familiar characters it be neat to go beyond the galaxy that we know of. Then again it looks like Season 4 could be what “Rangers of the New Republic” was supposed to entail. Always down to see more Dave Filoni in an orange jumpsuit. 😂
Music: Golden Dust by A.L.I.S.O.N.
Imo, this season lacked too much on the emotional side, and relied on too many convenient plots to keep it going. It kind of felt like a big slideshow with only plot bits, no story nor character work. Honestly, I'm baffled how uniterested Favroni are in Din, Din is not just Grogu's sidekick, he is part of what we love about this series. Unlike characters like say, Anakin in Phantom Menace who is only a kid and has hardly much to give to the story, Din's probably in his 40's and has SO much story behind him!!! Why does he love the creed so much? How was he raised?? (the Din we know and love came from their upbringing), did he have a mandalorian father? or maybe he was never formally adopted and hence had some kind of hesitation over formally adopting Grogu? Maybe his mandalorian father died like Bo Katan's and he never got to see his face and thus wanted Grogu to see his before saying goodbye?. Why does he know Tusken language? how is he so good with other cultures???. Din is super interesting but the story has no idea how to write him, not even in the season ABOUT MANDALORE. Even with Din finally adopting Grogu, as much as I loved it, it felt kind of out of nowhere just for the clean slate finale. All the set up from S2? gone or fixed on a whim, and it's not that I dislike fun, I love camp, I would have even been on board with Lizzo and Jack Black but like you said in the video, the story was so boring and numb, and that lack of focus on Din is felt even more cuz the episode could have been a GREAT chance to explore his trauma towards droids, but instead we just see him hating them like in S1? Seriously? no reaction to the DROIDS WHO KILLED HIS PARENTS? he just starts kicking them?. It's so disappointing how little they care about Din as a character.
He redeemed himself by the second episode (and I don't mind if he wants to belong cuz some individuals just have faith as part of their lives) and then played side kick who had to be constantly rescued. Din was the perfect vehicle for the audience to learn more about Mandalore, cuz he knew as little as we did about the other factions, but no, instead we got the same arc for Bo Katan for the third time, and she lost all her personality and what made her intriguing in the process, never acknowledging her past mistakes and failures (like when she admitted she surrendered to Gideon and none of the Mandos were bothered in the slightest, when they obviously weren't told the plans of surrender). Same with the children of the watch being written so incompetent in Jurassic Park for Bo to show leadership skills...all bc she had a ship and they didn't? I guess they took the space bus there? And are u telling me they Never tried to hunt that damn bird? (am I the only one who laughed at how they "ran out of fuel" by pursuing a bird for a few miles but Axe had enough fuel to GET INTO ORBIT AND THEN SCAPE THE FALLING SHIP? KAJHDKJA). Rlly, so baffling writing choices, no wonder people thought the armorer was suspicious! she changed her mind re Bo so randomly! Despite calling her a cautionary tale in book of Boba... It feels like the mythosaur was just a excuse to make the superstitious leader think Bo is a chosen one or smth!, when a conflict between them would have been SO much more interesting...
And idk but Din showing 0 emotions through the season was very annoying too, he only had them with Grogu, but hello? Bo Katan is calling you a religious zealot who sucks and is to blame for the destruction of Mandalore (when it was her fault lmao) and he doesn't care? She also never apologizes for treating them like shit to then be proven wrong by being welcomed with open arms? IT'S SO WEIRD HOW NO ONE IN THE SEASON TALKED NOTHING BUT PLOT (and imo the fact that Din rarely spoke to anyone but Bo shows just how little chemistry they had, sure the dialogue was bad but at least there's banter with Peli or Cara, partnership with Greef or Cobb, etc, with Bo all interactions were contrived and boring except for the out of nowhere speech of "I'll serve you until your song is written (sorry Din but the song was written...many times...and it wasn't a hit)" that is great in a vacuum, but then Din simply leaves the planet once they take it back lol I guess the song was written??. At least with Boba I felt something when Din said they'd go down together, he had nothing to lose anymore after being told he should never see Grogu again so it made sense he was willing to die.
My only theory is that they're stretching out the plot so it fits better the thrawn movie they're setting up, cuz all the set up in S2 was dropped go return us to S1 status. I feel like they'll give Din's arc of leadership for that movie instead (cuz why else show how good he is at making different factions work together? And his understanding of other cultures? It'd be so weird if it leads nowhere, tho at this point I better not expect anything lol).
This season's biggest failure besides the uniterest in Din and Grogu is that it made Mandalore SO uninteresting...we got one more named Mandalorian this season...one. The other named one? gone (and they didn't even fucking mourn him kajshdkja). I've asked my non hardcore-Star-Wars-fan friends and they were SO done, only kept watching for Grogu and Din, and they're so happy the season ended with them both going on adventures again, ready to leave Mandalore behind, and that's just...not good, whoever thinks we will get a Bo Katan show now is being very generous, general audiences won't care about such a show, I assure you ñ_n.
Anyway...sorry for the long rant, this season has lots of good ideas on paper but hardly explored any of it, which is a damn shame.
I totally agree with everything you said. Also thanks for taking the time to write this, I appreciate it!
i think a larger problem i have is that we basically know nothing about some of these characters or haven’t learnt anything this since like how moff Gideon is basically just space gus. i couldn’t really be sad about paz vislas death because we know literally nothing about him and they didn’t do anything with the visla thing you might as well given him a random name instead of wasting a cool idea
you don't see value on tradition thats why you don't like this , is one of the elements , but is key for the Mandalorians , like the jedi they are nothing witout those traditions
I’m fr looking forward to you making a rewritten version of season 3.
Tbh i understand why people have a problem with season 3 i thought it was decent season tho i think its overhated i dont think it sucks but it certainly could have been better
Hope you are all having a nice day
I hope you’re having a better day!
thank you for adding some optimism in there .. there's too much negativity surrounding star wars right now