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Episode 6 of The Book of Boba Fett actually nailed his character perfectly - boba appeared for 40 seconds, just stood in the background and didn't say a word
@today was a good day ratio
@today was a good day ratio 2.0
E.
@today was a good day no bitches?
Unfair. He says a few lines. Also still in character.
I just hate how we already have Mando and Grogu reunited, it honestly takes away from the impact of the season 2 finale.
FRRRR
Not really
For me, I kinda pulling for grogu to choose Jedi training instead of Mando
It really does. The whole point of Season 2 was to return him to the Jedi, and then for Mando to actually let him go for Grogu's own good. It's a decision that should have had weight and consequences...but I guess we can't have those now 😐
@@PeteTemplar101 exactly, thank you
What made him cool in the OT (or at least in Empire) was how much respect Vader gave him. He pointed at Boba and told him “no disintegrations”, implying Boba either disobeyed Vader before and lived, or Vader is aware of his reputation and taking a chance anyway because he’s so skilled. He also outsmarted Han/The Empire by figuring out how the Falcon suddenly disappeared and getting to Bespin before them. Also unlike Lando, Vader wasn’t willing to alter any deals he made with Boba (even willing to compensate if Han died) showing he respects Fett and doesn’t want to ruin any business relations with him. And Legends gave us plenty of awesome Boba.
Yeah also the Vader comics show he used Boba as somewhat of a private bounty hunter
Simple fix in RotJ:
Make him duel Luke for a bit, than his jetpack is damaged by the lightsaber, then he gets force-pushed away and falls into the sarlac pit, but he’s hanging on to dear life with his cable stuff, no screaming, and make it noble, not AUGHHGH **dead**
He did a good job in Clone Wars too though. The reason why he failed so many times was because he was young and naive. And after years of experience and trial-error he became the perfect bounty hunter.
We even saw him grow. And each time he failed, we saw him get angrier and angrier. We saw the growth of a young and naive boy who just wanted revenge from one person (master Windu), to a ruthless bounty hunter.
@@ImDoneArguingOnYTComments agreed, Boba in clone wars was awesome, shame he never killed Bane in season 7 like it was planned
@@orlandofurioso7329 Yeah..
As a mandalorian fan I’m honestly pretty mad that they had grogu and mandos reunion happen OUTSIDE OF THEIR OWN SHOW. was I thrilled to see them, yeah but you’re telling me you have to watch 3 episodes of a completely different show to understand where season 3 will be picking up? Ridiculous.
Shows that they didnt even care about boba fett
Their reunion felt kind of rushed too. But I guess they had to bring back Grogu otherwise nobody would watch this show
Kinda like the MCU when you think about it
It's completely neutered Mando Season 3. They've completely lost the plot and have been just dicking around for the past 3 episodes. No strong emotional core that should have come from seeing a build-up to their reunion.
@@xavierhutchinson7257 I hate how true that is. As someone who only recently got into Star Wars a few years ago (and doesn't know many of these callbacks) it sucks so much that it feels like they can't tell a decent self-contained story anymore. Hearing my friends say "If you watch Mandalorian make sure to watch The Book of Boba Fett between seasons 2 and 3" just puts me off all the Disney + stuff because it just sounds like homework.
I like how Tatooine is supposed to be this lowkey planet where people can hide out and yet Star Wars keeps shoving us back there and making it not lowkey
Well, to be fair, all of this crap is just criminal underworld stuff. This is Hutt space so none of this has to do with the Republic or the Empire or Jedi or the Skywalker family... It IS just a story about how crime happens here... Pikes were running drugs and Boba Fett said he doesn't want drugs there.
YES!
@@Cityweaver there are so many other planets on the outer rim. Why does Star Wars like the boring sand planet so much
@@OfAngelsAndAnarchist those all make sense but then you have BOBF taking place on there like exclusively, and lots of the Mandalorian taking place in Tatooine, and the Star Wars Commander game starting out on Tatooine, several episodes of Clone Wars and Rebels taking place on Tatooine, Kotor 2 having lots of Tatooine stuff, and if these were each the exception they would be totally fine, but since Tatooine shows up so often it barely feels like a place of nothing. Theyve put so much effort into Tatooine that it now feels less like the barren boring planet and more like the barren boring overused planet.
@@LucyWest370 Boba Fett was defeated on this planet and he has no home to return to. You are confusing the Sequels (JJ Abrams) copying Tatoonie with Jakku with actual over-exposure to Tatoonie. The planet wasn't in the actual Sequels until the last scene, it wasn't in Rogue One or Han Solo, it was featured briefly in the Clone War-era shows, and it was only in Mandalorian to set up Boba Fett's return.
I WOULD argue that it was dumb for Tatoonie to be in the Prequels, because hiding Darth Vader's son on his own home planet, with his old name is dumb. So, really, the only Tatoonie reference I don't like is that Anakin Skywalker should have had a different planet as his home.... But then we wouldn't have the "I don't like sand" joke...
*Boba Fett:* "Finally, my OWN show!"
*Mandalorian:* "Hello there!"
My gosh, enough with the bots 4 crying out loud!🙄
@@damara-------9367 touch grass
Weird to think because my favourite mando episode is ep 14 all boba😂
The Book of Literally Everyone But Boba Fett.
General Kenobi
"imagine if the obi wan show is this boring and bad and nostalgia heavy"
hoo boy
Obi Wan does the same thing as this show where it takes a cool premise and has a few cool moments sprinkled throughout, but then squanders that premise because the cool moments aren't good enough to offset all the episodes that meander on about bullshit nobody cares about
@@extremeteatime8663 it has the same plot as mandalorian. save the kid and get it to safe hands but its about oni Wan so let's add force and DARTH VADER. only the choreography carried the series
Pain😭
@@skitzyfizz Even the choreography was bad. Couldn’t see shit in any of the fight scenes, and lets not forget Reva doing parkour
Acts 2:25-28
25 For David says concerning Him:
‘I foresaw the Lord always before my face,
For He is at my right hand, that I may not be shaken.
26 Therefore my heart rejoiced, and my tongue was glad;
Moreover my flesh also will rest in hope.
27 For You will not leave my soul in Hades,
Nor will You allow Your Holy One to see corruption.
28 You have made known to me the ways of life;
You will make me full of joy in Your presence.’
A quote from you “ It really is a shame to see Boba take backseat during his own arc” except it’s with a whole damn show
The biggest problem with Cad Bane was obviously that his hat was way too small.
Yes
Changed hats before the the show canonically
Same
And no toothpick
The real Cad Bane wouldn't be caught dead with a hat so pathetic and wimpy.
Boba Fett: “This show is all about me”
Other SW characters:” ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT”
How did you watch this 12 hours ago?
How did you watch this 12 hours ago
@@rosiguy6258 Patreon
Let me fix that:
Other SW Characters: "Oh, I don't think so"
E.
Personally I would’ve preferred Boba Fett to go back to bounty hunting after escaping the pit, then gradually develop a conscious along the way. It doesn’t really make sense why he goes soft all of sudden.
Nah, I'm tired of having only good guys on live action
Boba was always very biased to the Empire (Not only was he paid more, the Jedi murdered his father). Imagine a show where we see the development of the First Order through a Boba that's fully declared war on the New Republic because of the humiliation he suffered at the hands of Luke and co. It would be so cool, especially since Battlefront II screwed up the original premise of seeing the FO form
the explanation for why he goes soft is his time with the tuskens
@@upisntdownsilly The Tuskens literally used him as a slave, beat him up, and almost killed him
The real Boba Fett would have come back with the Slave I and made Anakin proud
@@memememe609 'real boba fett' who is this real boba fett we are talking about? the only time we actually got to know boba fett before book of boba fett was the clone wars, where he acted very humane and only wanted to get revenge on windu, a heartless mercenary boba fett doesnt exist, he was just less expressive in the movies
@@upisntdownsilly The real Boba Fett was Legends Boba Fett. The one the fans adore and wanted more of. The one you play as in Empire at War & the OG Battlefront games. The one who'd probably blast Disney Boba's brains out the second he turned around.
"Imagine if the Obi-Wan show is this slow and boring and nostalgia heavy. I dont think my heart could take it."
So, hey, Schaff.... you doing okay buddy?
🤣 I was looking for this comment.
Acts 2:25-28
25 For David says concerning Him:
‘I foresaw the Lord always before my face,
For He is at my right hand, that I may not be shaken.
26 Therefore my heart rejoiced, and my tongue was glad;
Moreover my flesh also will rest in hope.
27 For You will not leave my soul in Hades,
Nor will You allow Your Holy One to see corruption.
28 You have made known to me the ways of life;
You will make me full of joy in Your presence.’
@@SeektheLordsface "You shall acknowledge no God but me. . . . You are destroyed, Israel. . . . The people of Samaria must bear their guilt, because they have rebelled against their God. They will fall by the sword; their little ones will be dashed to the ground, their pregnant women ripped open." (Hosea 13:4, 9, 16 NIV)
@@peyton713 so do you know what their talking about?
Also are you an atheist who has blind faith that life began from chaos?
@@SeektheLordsface "blind faith" ironic
It would've been interesting if the show focused on how Boba wanted to create a legacy. Have him reflect on how pathetically he "died" during the Sarlacc Pit incident and how no one cared about him enough to mourn or search for him. His time with the Tuskens will open his eyes to what his skills could be used for a community and not just a job, and reflect how Jango wanted him to carry on the Fett name. That would be his main motivation for becoming a crimelord to secure a legacy worth remembering that will eventually evolve into a leader concerned with protecting others and motivate people like Fennic to do the same. It would also reflect his contrasting relationship with Cad Bane, as while Boba has changed over the years, Cad remains the same. While he may be the best bounty hunter when he dies there will be no one to mourn, avenge, or remember him. They should also have not had two whole episodes focusing on Mando and saved a majority of it for season 3. As well as bring back Bossk, Hondo, and other famous Underworld characters to get some closure on them and how they shaped Boba's character.
This is exactly what I wanted to see from the show.
Oh damn now that I'm seeing that way more interesting idea, I'm kinda mad that we never got that.
This comment shows why throwing money at things just degrades a shows value, they don’t need to come up with stuff, and can be lazy, and this leads to a professional team being outclassed by a guy on CZcams
When the fans know more about how to write a story that the writers do…
Rebels ruined Hondo
The most annoying thing in this show for me is how bad Boba is at actually fighting.
Like seriously. They made the Mandalorian feel tough, but Boba is basically carried by his teammates.
Boba 3 seconds into a fight scene: "Oh my hip! Well, off to the bacta tank."
I stopped watching the moment he got bodied by the people with shields
It's hard when they don't let him use his taiaha training, trust me it's not easy to keep a stick in control like that... They did his character so dirty, even he complained about it, the dude might be sixty but if they had given him a real chance, he would've brought to life the real boba we all wanted too see. Shitty starwars foul called
I found out why the worst fighting scenes were so bad!: Robert Rodriguez was directing some of them! This guy isn’t a bad director by any stretch but he sucks ass at kid shows! Just look at Spy Kids. Now, look at the gore scenes from Alita: Battle Angel, where he was allowed to let loose! Call Rodriguez only when your scenes are willing to take the gloves off, not when they aren’t!
At least it's consistent with how goofy he was written in ROTJ.
I feel like if Grogu was only there for the 6th episode and the cliffhanger at the end of the episode was just a tease for Mandalorian season 3, that would be fine. But the fact that they reunited in this show instead of their own, in a scene more about being chased by spy kids-like droids, is just really infuriating and John Favreau, my man, you REALLY dropped the ball with this one.
Scorpinech anhilators droids are cool... in the clone wars show.
I couldn’t tell if Boba Fett was trying to be the new crime boss or the new sheriff of Tattooine.
I don’t think the writers could tell either.
“If he’s both then neither can stop him”
~The writers, probably
Someone pointed this out but having Grogu and Mando reunite in this show is gonna be so jarring for people in the future who might plan on binge watching all 3 seasons of Mando and think book of boba is just its own thing. It’s gonna be so confusing to go from an emotional goodbye between Grogu and Din only for it to awkwardly transition to the next season and be like “Nope, their united again! Oh what’s that? You didn’t know you had to watch another show before this season? Well f** you then”
First of all, the bots are horrendous already.
Secondly, really good point. I hadn’t thought to view it that way. Like if I wanted to watch a show about Boba Fett I wouldn’t understand why there’s this character I’ve never seen suddenly half way through. I feel like maybe this could have been a season three of The Mandolorian ?? Since ((in retrospect)) there would only be a few episodes that are strictly Boba. Just a thought really :0
Funny enough its a really good marketing tactic
@@lizlazmccringe2043 Star Wars has become just the MCU done even more poorly, sadly.
"Oh you have no idea who this character is cause you didn't swallow all the media we produced the last decade or so? Well you sure are in for a disappointment as the story shifts towards him and may have an emotional bit dedicated to him...on this show that he is not originated from"
Yeah thats true. I think the best thing to do no matter what series is to see a watch in order list. Kinda the same with books that have multiple series for the same timeline. Still a hassle though
@@iug5672 who did you not know then?
My biggest gripe is Luke sticking to the old Jedi ways. You’d think he’d learn to change the no emotion part when it clearly ruined the last order.
IKR?
sorry that was retconned, gotta make way for my totally new and interesting perspective
Does he know that's what made it fail? I figured that Yoda was still stuck in his ways with how the Jedi Order operated during the Republic, and passed that down to Luke.
@@warweasel2832 true. if yoda was a little haunting fucker and annoyed him every minute. i would too have no emotion.
@@warweasel2832 Well Luke's thinking would be, "Well Jedi always did things this way, the Jedi then failed tremendously, so there should be zero issues doing things like this again." Literally no critical thinking skills
I feel like chump that during the first few episodes I had an "epiphany" that Boba is playing his cards close to his chest when he tells the Tuskens how they know the planet better than everyone yadda yadda yadda and I am thinking "OH FUCK! Boba is going to pull a freaking Dune and form a Tusken Army that he is keeping secret as his ace as the Hutts get lulled into false security since they think he is just some bounty hunter." Then all the Tusken Raiders die and realized they really were making Boba actually this incompotent. Really assumed show writers were more clever than they were.
Dear God, that would have been an amazing story to see. And it could have also prefaced a shakeup of the socio-political landscape of Tatooine, where the Tuskens go from being considered little better than bandits to major players in governing their native home planet. So much lost potential... ☹
Can I just point out that Bryce Dallas Howard has a fucking amazing track record so far? I vastly enjoyed everything from her.
I think she was great as yaddle
Ok
You kinda touch on it in this video but I don’t think we’re giving the creators enough smack for how badly they handled this show. Temuera Morrison himself was the one who complained to the directors/writer that Boba talks too much and needs to fight more. The creators were SO uninterested in writing a Boba Fett show that they dropped literally every possible interesting potential storyline with him. No exploration of his complex identity issues as a separate clone and a Mandalorian diaspora? Perhaps a brutal series abt Boba and Fennec carving through the slave trade after they took over Tatooine? I see ppl harping on Boba as a character but i never see nearly enough ppl criticizing just how badly Jon Favreau and the directors dropped the ball on this
At best, this was a case of the script looking better on paper than in live-action and someone on the team being too stubborn to change it
At worst, this is them just trying rush through important story beats so they can save some time in Mando season 3
Do you think this is like when Favreau directed The Lion King 2019?
@@bbolin5626 Oh yea good point.
@@pigglesgoomshby7249 the team of one. Favreau was the only writer. And there's your problem. No one to tell him no.
“Imagine if the Kenobi show is this boring, and bad, and nostalgia heavy.”
He’s stuck on the same planet as Boba, James. And there’s even less stuff for him to do, since his existence is illegal and they can’t mess with the canon of the original trilogy.
I’m hoping for the best, but honestly I’m expecting three episodes of old man sitting in cave having flashbacks. And then kid Luke shows up in the fourth to keep us watching. Then some pirate gang is going to try and take the moisture farm, and obi wan is going to save them. They’ll almost beat him, then Luke will instinctively use the force without realizing it and save the day.
I love Obi Wan Kenobi, but they literally could not have picked a more boring time in his life to make a show about.
I really, REALLY hope I’m wrong.
Aren't they doing young Kenobi?
Well, young as in adult
Wasn't there a whole series of books in the old EU set between Ep 3 and 4 about Obi-Wan doing stuff other than waiting on Tatooine the entire time?
@@s07195 yes there were, and many of them were great! I sincerely hope that I’m wrong and that we get Obi-Wan putting on the robe for some “coming out of retirement” awesomeness.
@@sethrosenow2720 Yeah okay, glad I wasn't remembering wrong :D
I think I read the first two of that series, and it was pretty good. Hope they pull from that.
The book is amazing, having a mature story that explores his guilt and isolation, while trying to protect the people of a local town without letting them know he is a jedi and keeping his distance.
This base is already good for a mature show, it can get even better if you use bounty hunters as enemies or adopt a western/samurai film approach, with the town going to be attacked by raiders and Kenobi training them and preparing them in a story similar to Seven Samurai.
Hell, they could use Ventress. Perhaps Ventress is running off from hunters or the Empire and hides herself in Tattoine and comes to Kenobi looking for help!
Sure, Disney would never do stuff like this, but one can dream.
Boba, unlike the other clones, wouldn’t have experienced the rapid aging effects that come with being a clone. So why is he so old and borderline-senile? Him and peepaw willie can sit in the “old, senile, and formerly threatening villain hospice”
"Peepaw Willie" lmao💀
I think temuera morrison's performance was underwelhing because he had no idea what the writers were doing with boba fett. He knows how boba fett is suppose to be and didnt want to do what the writers wanted to do.
Temuera morrison wanted to be badass and the writerz went no
@@ttry1152 i felt so bad for him cause he even said boba keeps taking his helmet off and speaking too much, poor temuera morrison
I don't remember where I heard this so take it with a grain of salt but iirc Temuera Morrison said he gave some of his lines to the actress that played Fennec because he felt like he was talking too much.
You can see he understands Boba by listening to his voice lines in Battlefront
Nvm what I said. Someone else said it first lol
F these writers
While I am kinda meh towards the show, it's weird how easily it could've been minorly improved. Like if Cad Bane was the most immediate threat from earlier, or if Boba actually gained power like a mob boss. He had to gun people down to get the throne, why is he suddenly peaceful afterwards?
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Idk the violence hasn't been doing a lot of good for the fetts
Cad Bane's scenes were pretty good imo, but he deserved way more setup than he got. A lot of BoBF's basic story elements, scenes etc would be much better if they'd been stitched together in a more sensible context.
The twin Hutts taking their leave was what really confused me. They were clearly set up to be the bad guys early on, but they just peaced out and never came back once the Pykes showed up.
That kind of subversion, if done right, can effectively make the second antagonist seem even more threatening, but here it just felt hamfisted. The Pykes came outta nowhere, and without explanation as to why they stopped being neutral with Fett anymore after the fight with the Tuskens (not initially anyway).
(Big ups for that Fantano reference btw)
Yeah, it feels like something deeper is supposed to be going on in the Star Wards underworld: like, this was a play by the Hutts to use Boba against the Pykes, and the reason Tatooine is important now is because it's about to turn into an Outer Rim Cartel battleground. But, because the season is so short, and spends so much of its time on so many things, everything is just a mess.
they shouldve left off screen
I kinda suspect the Twins got swapped out for the Pykes. They were originally the Big Bads, but then too late into production a order came down to use the Pykes instead for that "Cinematic Universe" tie in to Clone Wars.
Right? It made absolutely no sense. They set them up to be the villains of the show which was actually really interesting.
They would have been a great antagonist to Boba's rule. The Hutts ruled before Boba so there would be people arguing and fighting in favor for the Twins to have the throne. But then you'd have people supporting Boba who took the throne violently. If we had had a territory and claim war over who gets to rule the town, that would be the coolest shit ever.
If you ask me, we should have had Boba and the Hutts throughout the entire first season. They were a much better concept for a villain than the Pikes given the history leading up to this.
I personally think it's meant to be foreboding, considering they ditched while never rejecting Jabba's legacy(technically).
6:13 EXACTLY! This is why I find it so annoying when people talk about how cool he is, he was the least interesting and developed bounty hunter there was, until Disney realised they could make money.
Bossk, Cad Bane, Embo, even bounty hunter Ventress, they are all so much more interesting and it just makes me sad that nobody has actually watched clone wars.
Just to be clear, I'm not annoyed at the people for liking Boba Fett, I'm just annoyed at them for seeing clone wars as nothing more than a kids show.
People think of Boba Fett as being cool because he was in the comics (which are now, mostly, no longer canon, because Disney basically sectioned off all of the old material aside from the movies and clone wars as not canon), which is why people are upset that he isn't a badass anymore. Also, I personally like his background as being a personally requested clone of another great bounty hunter, I dunno, I just think he's neat.
@@skinlizard2251 Yeah the real Boba Fett resides in the comics. What they gave us is not even close to being Boba Fett.
What made him cool in the OT (or at least in Empire) was how much respect Vader gave him. He pointed at Boba and told him “no disintegrations”, implying Boba either disobeyed Vader before and lived, or Vader is aware of his reputation and taking a chance anyway because he’s so skilled. He also outsmarted Han/The Empire by figuring out how the Falcon suddenly disappeared and getting to Bespin before them. Also unlike Lando, Vader wasn’t willing to alter any deals he made with Boba (even willing to compensate if Han died) showing he respects Fett and doesn’t want to ruin any business relations with him. And like one of the other comments said, Legends gave us plenty of awesome Boba.
@Ambridge I said "Aside from the movies and clone wars". Pretty much the only things that remained canon after the Disney buyout were the movies and clone wars- Of course clone wars is still canon, it's one of the only things that remained canon.
Yall need to stop berating people who never took an interest in the clone wars. It is literally a kids show. That show has some of the most plot armor I’ve ever seen in a piece of media. And obviously they have to have plot armor, but the action scenes should’ve been written and animated in such a way that that plot armor is not being directly shown to the audience, because watching Ahsoka cut through 50 different B2 droids without even the slightest injury doesn’t make me think she’s badass, it makes me question the IQ level of the writers.
Just finished watching Season 1. I have several comments. Spoilers ahead.
1. Did Favreau and Filoni even want to write this show? The events and tone were all over the place, to the point where the title character wasn't even in two of the episodes.
2. Since flashbacks were a big plot device this season, it would have been cool if they went further back to Boba Fett's history with Cad Bane, with Daniel Logan playing Boba Fett in that time period (Logan played teen Boba Fett in Episode II and Clone Wars, and he has a passing resemblance to Temuera Morrison).
3. Cad Bane should have been introduced earlier and given some background context as to why his presence is so significant to Boba Fett (for people who haven't seen the animated series).
4. Boba's re-characterization from cold hard-ass to softened honor-seeker could have been expanded more. While his time with the Tusken tribe was good for showing his development, his arc should have started differently after he escaped the sarlacc. Reflecting on his life during The Clone Wars, his past under Cad Bane's tutelage, etc. All while wandering Tatooine aimlessly searching for his armor, and _then_ getting captured by the Tusken tribe.
5. The rainbow mod gang was extremely out of place in Tatooine. It would have been better if they'd been one-episode side characters that Boba recruited for meager tasks. Instead, they were given way too much screen time to perform cringey actions and dialogue. Also, they would have been more believable if they actually looked sun-worn and weathered, and like they lived on a desert planet instead of Cyberpunk 2077.
6. Boba himself was a watered-down pushover who seemed so out of character even compared to his appearance in The Mandalorian. Here, he kept getting his ass handed to him and could barely hold his own every time he fought an enemy. After his Tusken tribe had been killed, he should have slightly reverted to his ruthless persona. As a crime boss, he should have demanded respect instead of suggesting it, taking out the Hutts after they came for him first, and then telling the other leaders to fall in line or they would be next. And if the writers wanted him to dial it back again, just have Fennec serve as a voice of reason so he stayed balanced.
7. Why did this show turn into The Mandalorian Season 2.5 halfway through? Reuniting Mando and Grogu so soon and not even on their own show just diluted The Mandalorian Season 2 ending and already gives Season 3 a weak start. If Boba needed Mando for the big conflict, that sequence of events should have occurred right after Mando was kicked out of the Watch. The business on Tattooine would have given him a sense of purpose again, and that includes building his new ship. And then the after credits scene at the end of the season could have been Mando showing up with the chain mail armor to Luke's construction site and seeing Grogu training in the distance.
Boba’s character is probably the biggest sin of the show. He wants to protect bounty hunters from incompetence but then says he wants to protect the people of tatooine who hate tuskens who are the people who took him in? Also how does he go from having Fennac aim a blaster at grogu to being this kind hearted man in the show.
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Yeah this show has too many blank spots that need filling. There needed to be a moment or episode to show what Boba Fett was fighting for outside of his tusken life that he lived. The only interactions he had with the people are with an old guy that wanted a younger biker bang to get killed by him for getting his water and the biker gang saying that they are not well off.
Geez 4 spam reply’s in one comment
@@thatsaboat2882 ikr
Why is this a thing that happens
why doesnt boba fett handle his daddy issues
I think Maul handled the whole
" new crime-boss breaking out of the shackles of pre-determined destiny" better than Boba .
Oof
In retrospect it doesn’t make a lot of sense about why boba fett would go from bounty hunter to friend of tuskee raiders to daimyo of a planet.
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It's really weird . Despite that , the story could have been pulled off better . The show just feels half baked .
The problem in my opinion is that Boba is too nice to be a crime boss(which I'm wondering if that wasn't because of Disney) I think the series could've been better if it was about Boba cleaning up Tatooine like a wild west sherif.
Only if your prefer an evil character arc as s opposed to an honorable redemptive arc.
I feel like they want to make Boba the badass like he was in the comics that came out after the original trilogy but keep screwing up the execution with the exception of him coming back in The Mandalorian. I'm pretty sure Temuera Morrison said that he thought Boba talked to much in his show as well
Let's never forget how amazing Bryce Dallas Howard directed The Return of The Mandalorian and makes me wish she'd direct a full movie with creative freedom and see what it'd look like.
I'm really sad that this wasn't a great show. They did Boba dirty again.
Wdym “again”?
@@berniebare371 Probably refering to how Boba Fett is also poorly represented in the main movies.
@@berniebare371 He looked really cool in the OGs, but got defeated on Jabba's Barge really easily in episode 6
It felt like it wasn't confident in its own ideas so it had to fall back on the Mandalorian. I don't think it's a coincidence that after they ran out of post-ROTJ Tusken stuff (which was genuinely pretty good) they just did a few Mandalorian episodes, because honestly the modern day crime lord stuff was just not that interesting.
Agreed. It didn’t know what it wanted to be. It was very underwhelming, imo
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Plus since it’s a Disney that’s can’t’ full commit to a crime lord idea.
They couldnt write modern day crime lord stuff to be interesting*
"Crime lord" is being generous
20:20 Did not age well.
I just finished watching the show, and it boggles my mind just how little Boba Fett was in his own show. Hopefully Kenobi does better
"Hopefully Kenobi does better "
Oof
It definitely did do better
Ratio
That aged awful
It did better, even if it was only okay
Man I wanna see Boba’s early years SO MUCH more than his later. Like just show us him getting his armor, being mentored, hunting, PLEASE
Not to mention his bromance with Vader
The Bad Batch probably will include him. It has already been established that Omega is his 'sister' and we've seen Cad Bane as well.
well we got some of that from clone wars
Acts 2:25-28
25 For David says concerning Him:
‘I foresaw the Lord always before my face,
For He is at my right hand, that I may not be shaken.
26 Therefore my heart rejoiced, and my tongue was glad;
Moreover my flesh also will rest in hope.
27 For You will not leave my soul in Hades,
Nor will You allow Your Holy One to see corruption.
28 You have made known to me the ways of life;
You will make me full of joy in Your presence.’
@@SeektheLordsface the only Lord I respect and listen to is the Sith Lord Darth Vader.
May the Force be with you.
The easiest fix to this show would have just been renaming it "The Book of Tatooine". At least then it would have justified it not being about Boba specifically and could have validated it's obsession with the planet as a social hub for the galaxy.
Ehhh but Boba sells toys better, which is clearly the more important thing to do
20:25 wellllllll....
"I was really trying to figure out why I was enjoying the scenes with Din Djarin, more than Boba Fett, in the Boba Fett show. And I think the reason is the Mandalorian is basically what we see Boba Fett as; like you know the mental picture of Boba Fett that the public consciousness has sprouted over the past you know decades of the character existing is of the cool, aloof, cold blooded, you know Mandalorian super solder. And that's exactly what Din is; *he's Boba Fett.* Or at least old Boba Fett. And now that Boba Fett can't be that because we would just have two of the same character in this show Boba becomes something unique. He's very tribal. He has kind of this code of honor now because he spent you know this undisclosed amount of time living with the Tusken Raiders. And definitely makes him more unique but unfortunately the Mandalorian is just cooler. And it's sad. Because it's not the Mandalorian's show."
~Cosmonaut Variety Hour
"He ruined my dream journal!"
"I did not!"
"MR.ELECTRIC SEND HIM TO THE PRINCIPALS OFFICE AND HAVE HIM EXPELLED!!!!!!!!"
MR ELECTRIC UNSHIT MY PANTS
@@theoreticallyspeaking3377 How the hell does one unshit their pants?
MR ELECTRIC KILL HIM
ENOUGH! I KNOW EVERYTHING, AND YOU KNOW NOTHING. NOW BOTH OF YOU GO TO THE PRINCIPALS OFFICE AFTER SCHOOL...
...
WITH YOUR PARENTS!
My biggest thing for just Star Wars in general now, is that Tatooine is a huge fucking deal. In episode 5, when Mando is on the halo ring and you see massive crowds rushing to the cruisers on a "nonstop flight to Tatooine", it cemented that no one on the creative team understood why Tatooine was Tatooine. The whole point of it was its an Outer Rim backwater desert world NO ONE WANTS TO GO TO. They made it into the cultural hub of all Star Wars now and I hate it. Stop exploring the most boring planet in Star Wars. Tatooine would not have any commercial flight cruiser coming to it nonstop.
Edit: 10:05 thank you daddy crabby
literally it’s soo fucking annoying like how about we see a cool jungle/city planet like Nar Shadaa or something else that’s really cooky and cool, but nah it’s boring ugly desert hicksville every time
@@andreja9425 i understand why many people hated the prequels, but at least they introduced us these new cool planets like coruscant and kamino and stuff, after disney takeover it's just Tattooine or just another boring desert planet. Although i'm hyped about obi-wan show, knowing it also takes place in tattoine is just jarring.
@Isa Ahmedov yeah for real. I think the prequels are underrated but lately a lot more people have come around on them because disney dropped the ball so freaking hard lol. Definitely wish we could get more planets like coruscant or even more stories on that planet. I hope the obi wan show takes him off tattooine for a big adventure or something
The problem is Disney, with unlimited money, gives it all to Marvel, and leaves crumbs for LucasFilms.
Which also explains why Jabba, the most powerful crime lord in the galaxy, decided to hide out there.
The Mandalorian is pretty much what we thought of Boba Fett as when he was first introduced: A cool Star Wars action hero.
But as mentioned in the video, the Mandalorian just kinda Usurps Boba Fett what with all they've done to him over the years.
21:20 I might get hated for saying this but I don't care. Rian Johnson understands Star Wars. He understood Star Wars so much, he was willing to try new ideas and take risks with The Last Jedi because that's what the original films were about. I mean, among the 9 mainline films, The Last Jedi was one of the films the had the most original ideas, aside from obviously the original Star Wars film. Were all those ideas executed well? Some of them were, the rest weren't but it's still a better movie than The Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones and Rise of Skywalker. It's partially why I'm kinda excited for his upcoming trilogy. This show is not that bad but it could've been much better
I kinda feel like the reunion between Grogu and Mando should've been reserved for the finale of the third season. Having them reunite almost immediately after the season 2 ended (and in a spinoff, not even their own show) takes away from the impact of Mando letting him go. We should've had a timeskip of at least a few years, with Mando's story mainly focusing around his struggles with the darksaber.
Also I get that they had to portray Luke more like they portrayed him in the sequels, but him making a person choose betwen family and the force despite having experienced first hand what that can do to a man just feels incredibly out of character to me. Then again, so did his entire arc in the sequels so while it isn't a surprise per se, its still incredibly disappointing.
I personally love Mando and Grogu's reunion a lot, I'm glad they reunited with each other happily. 💚 But I respect you and your opinion.
I definetly agree, it woud have been so much more heartfelt and impactful if they just allowed the characters to miss eachother and really build up that longing
Yeah like if years down the line someone wants to watch Mandalorian for the first time, when they get to Season 3 they’re going to be completely lost as to why/how Grogu is back
Yea season 2 is pretty much pointless now
yeah the fact that they reunited in such a short amount of time really takes away from the S2 finale. I also agree that it was some pretty petty shit what Luke did
I genuinely was more invested into the Tuskens than Boba in this show and got seriously angry and confused that they slaughtered them off screen in episode 3 it really just doenst make sense
Yeah, the little tuskan kid and the chief were genuinely interesting mute characters. Ah. Whatever
Ps: I'm not being sarcastic by the way
@@federicosavorani6320 they weren't mute
@@rebeccacummings6697 They weren't, but for most of their presence in the show, the viewer cannot understand whatever they're saying. So, functionally, yeah, they are.
I stopped watching after that lol
Yeah, I assumed they were going somewhere with that, the they killed them off screen! And Boba isn't even the one to get revenge on their real killers. It just felt pointless.
Its a huge shame because in Legends, Boba's story after the Sarlaac is really cool. He becomes the Mand'alore, leading the Mandalorians through one galactic problem after another.
That would have been way cooler. Boba Fett learning about his dad's legacy and seeking to emulate it. The problem with trying to be a crime boss and a noble honorable person is that those two things are often mutually exclusive. You can't be the good guy if you're literally a gangster. Like Boba, the crime boss, basically decides throughout the show that he will not smuggle spice, shake down locals for protection money, or engage in any other criminal enterprises.
Okay... so then what kind of enterprises will you engage in? Importing and exporting vegetables? The reason other fictional crime lords like Gus Fring and Vito Corleone are so great to watch isn't because they're nice, noble people. Its because the nice, noble persona is the surface of an otherwise ruthless, selfish, amoral individual. Gus is professional and respectful, but he floods his community with crystal meth and slits people's throats with box cutters for... reasons.
If they wanted Boba to step into the role of a noble, honorable, respectable leader, they should have had him go to Mandalore and endeavour to lead the Mandalorians. Not take over Jabba's criminal empire and remove all the crime!
To this day I still think I was a huge missed opportunity not to include bossk
The actor (don't know how to spell his name) was quite vocal about how they were handling his character. But with the director and writers almost literally phone it in he was ignored.
Temuera Morrison. It's disheartening how many actors have come out disappointed about how their characters were handled by Disney/Lucasfilm.
Things i'd change to the show is make it more like Godfather in space, more focus on the crime aspect. The street rat gang actually gets character development, Boba takes in the girl (did she even have a name) as a protégé, seeing in her himself after his father was murdered. Central theme should have been "Am I a clone of my father through and through, or can I be something different, someone else."
See, that’s what I was expecting in the first place, and that’s partly why I hated it so much, just the wasted potential in the crime a aspect.
The series starts with Boba's grief for his dad and then it never comes up, big missed potential
the badass surrogate father and adopted protege angle is kind of played out in Star Wars by now tho
No amount of development for the mod gang could have helped how shit of an idea they were
@@Hi-fd4cw If they were atleast useful cuz of their mods, the dude w a bionic eye could be very good at shooting or look really far
But no they ask "How many?" and the dude cant tell them YOU HAVE A ROBO EYE YOU FUCK
As much as I liked the Mando episodes I'm disappointed that their reunion happens after two episodes of the season 2 finale. This really could have been the entirety of the third season so I hope they really prove that this was a good idea to rush it In Boba Fet by having something really compelling for season 3 instead of go to this planet help people leave over and over again with a new call back charter every episode.
Exactly it pissed me off. The whole of season 3 could've been about Din proving himself to be a worthy wielder of the darksaber and finding his own groove back after losing grogu, while simultaneously seeing grogu slowly mature and having to deal with the reality of being forced to choose between the jedi and Din.
Just imagine how powerful it would've been seeing grogu choose to come back to din in the final few episodes of the season. Both characters who have grown throughout season 3 to establish an identity separate of each other, then coming back together stronger than ever.
Instead it's all wasted in this show. Sure, since I am a star wars fan I like the clone wars cameos and the fanservice, and I like the Din episodes in TBoBF, but casual fans will be very puzzled seeing grogu back with din from the start of season 3. And that whole arc, while done well in this show, could've been longer and better if put in mando season 3.
We don’t know what mando s3 is gonna be yet tho, if I had to guess then it would probably be what he did between s2 and book of boba, that would make more sense
@@brigs247__8 this would be cool, but I feel like CG Luke would get old really fast
@@mackva5973 yea I don't like cg like either. They should get seb stan to play him. He's a good actor, and he's already got the blessing from Mark Hamill.
It's an absolute shame that when he brought up Watto, I felt like they should've, like you could have the old dude still doing what he does best which can show Boba Fett to stop acting like an old man and get shit done, you can even have a scene where he's pawning off Annies old racing chariot for Nostalgia Baiting.
"...like, imagine if the Kenobi show is this boring, and bad, and nostalga heavy."
Me: *laughs hysterically*
If I had a nickel for Disney+ show where the main character of a show gets sidelined by what is essentially another version of them, I would have three nickels (Loki, Hawkeye) which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird that it happened three times
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@@axo9813 Got a source for that? Because I'm looking it up with a dozen different keywords and I can't find anything about Loki undergoing rewrites, let alone for that reason. The closest I've gotten is how episode 5 changed a lot in post-production, but there are no specifics given.
Boba Fett being old and out of his prime while refusing to accept that he just can't kick as much ass as he used to actually sounds pretty cool, wish they did more with that
Well he is supposed to be only in his mid-to-late 30s in the show so they would’ve either had to set in more in the future, which they couldn’t do if they wanted to make this Mandalorian season 2.5, or emphasize that the sarlaac pit really messed him up for life.
@@oneinathousand2156 He’s in his early 40s in “present day” of the show
@@Deathpool_04 still, that would be pretty close to Din Djarin’s age.
@@oneinathousand2156 Yeah, either way, he’s not that old.
I had said the same when I was watching the show with a friend, but y'know thinking about it more I'd disagree. See, the primary issue is that on TV Boba Fett has fucking never kicked ass. He had that one episode in the Mandolarian (which I only remembered because it was mentioned in this video) and that is peak Boba Fett combat prowess. His character throughout the entirety of Star Wars has been guy in cool armor who instantly eats it in a fight.
“Like, imagine if the Obi-Wan show is this bad and boring and heavy.”
Well…
Finally, somebody said it. It says a lot when the best episodes of Boba Fett are the ones without Boba Fett
Actually, I think that Episodes 5 and 6 were the worst.
Boba's personality was very weird, and his reasons and views seemed to conflict a lot. The Boba Fett we saw in the Mandalorian was ruthless, cunning and mercilessly precise, but he also showed when he shot down the retreating ships with his rockets he mentioned he was only aiming for the other one, which shows his down-to-earth honesty. It made for a very compelling character on screen; a merciless, old bounty hunter who's lived life long enough to not care about glory, and is self-aware that no matter how good he is, he's still only human and respects those who respect him equally. That same human, who was raised by bounty hunters literally all his life. And they tried to to do that, but Jesus H fuck he's all over the place; one moment he's killing a mutated sand centaur bare handed, the next he's teaching Tuskens how to ride a hoverbike lIkE a bAnThA. I don't mind if he has some gruff and witty jokes every now and then but Boba Fett's character didn't fit the goofy dad character with the tone and presence that Boba usually sets.
I ain't no writing genius, and I'm certainly no director but if I were to redo this series here's what I'd do personally:
- Boba Fett's backstory and constant flashbacks are fine, it at least tell us how he got there and how he has strong relations to the Tuskens. This might not sit well with people but I'm fine with it. It would prove that he could establish good relations with a people that have been out of touch with the world all because people keep stepping into their lands. Well now that can be resolved, and it could spread Boba's empire indefinitely across Tattooine, being the MAKER of a great commercial hub out of a backwater planet that we're all sick and tired of seeing, but that could at least make it different.
- Introduce Boba's character as he was in the Mandolorian, but his wish to gain respect through honesty and to not become someone's tool is somewhat difficult to avoid, seeing as that's how he was raised. Then introduce those who mentored him (Bossk, Aurra Sing, Bane, etc.) during other flashbacks each episode either before, during or after a conflict. They each have a different way to approach things, and Boba could have inner conflict with what they have taught him over the course of his life as he struggles to find those answers and chooses what he should move forward with.
- The Hutts arrive, showing and telling that mere respect and honesty is nothing compared to straight-up fear on a backwater planet that's known nothing but wild-west shootouts and lawless crime lords ruling over their heads for who knows how many fucking years now.
- Hiring a legit bounty hunter after your head will come with casualties; some of the cyberpunk kids should've died to make Boba realize that hiring homeless teenagers as back-up is not a good plan when you LITERALLY SAID YOU HAVE MONEY IN RESERVE JUST HIRE BOUNTY HUNTERS AND MAKE A HOUSE OF MERCENARIES FOR FUCK SA-
- That brings me to this point: he should've made a mercenary guild, or a house of bounty hunters. I don't really care if it was too obvious; It would provide stable income to both his palace and the community, and would also provide protection and even present jobs. Especially if that same guild is run by one of the most famous bounty hunters to have ever lived. And it would also make Boba realize that the life he lived is something you can't escape from; you know too much, you've met too many and those connections will always lead you back to that life no matter how much you want to forget it.
- The Pikes and Hutt conflicts would've been a better addition if the Tuskens were to still be alive, or if he had made connections with another tribe during his slow but sure enough rise. Then the Hutts would trade out Chrys for that rancor, but its not a fucking puppy. It was a rigged trap, and the Rancor attacks Fett. now either he kills it and remains in the palace against the Hutts (who now continually plot against his fall), or he is chased out and must reclaim the palace by hiring Bounty Hunters and Tuskens, going through that "can't escape the past" realization again. And the negotiations with the Pikes through the spice trade is going poorly; bombings in the town happen frequently and prevention is thin.
- Fett still won't listen to reason, and then Cad Bane shows up who's hired by either the Hutts or the Pikes. Honestly, they introduced him perfectly with Cobb Vanth as a setup for Bane's skill. But now that we've seen him in like one flashback fucking shit up, even the audience who didn't know Cad Bane knows that Boba is right fucked. At this point, Bane's views in his flashbacks were always the condescending type; it was made obvious that Bane and Boba see things differently.
- THIS is where Mando can come in. In unison, with Boba and working out a plan of action with Fennec Shand and company.
- Bane and Boba's duel will still be the same; a glorious gun fight for the other enemies, but these two have history with drawing. I'd say keep it the same honestly. It shows that Cad Bane still sees Boba as a naive brat who won't stay put and will never be better than him, but Boba Fett has always had the conviction and cunning to outsmart Bane, he just needed to think more for himself rather than take the advice of a "cold-blooded killer".
If you actually read all this, thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.
“hiring homeless teenagers as back-up is not a good plan”
Lol if that was the case then he should be taking notes from Batman.
Someone once tried to say “well Boba stole the show from Mando back in season 2!” Yes, Boba showing up at the end fo Mando was a highlight, but he never stole an entire episode, never became the sole focus, and he never had more screen time than Mando did. Mando just straight up hijacked two and a half episodes in an only 7 episode long show.
Boba literally stole like 5 minutes, and Mando steals 2 episodes, not counting the finale. People saying Boba stole Mando's show are stupid.
22:08 this part literally killed me
Yes
20:25 boy this aged well
I love how Cad Bane acknowledges that Boba Fett’s character is nothing like how it used to be, and yet none of the writers were like, “dang, was our character development actually good?”
And I'm not shilling porn.
Anyway, I liked some of Boba's characterization in this. Not all of it, though.
@@Nugnugnug your pfp almost made me think you were one of those bots no offense
@@lylelylecrocodile2538 Yea and the book of boba fett show was extremely boring.
Oh hey Toganium! I see you everywhere!
The character development wasn't even there outside of episode 2. I figured that we would have Boba Fett talk with more people about their struggle underneath bad leadership but we don't even have that. And the writing seems to be afraid of having Boba Fett actually reflect on the details of his life. Or what kind of life he actually wants to lead with people underneath him. There's nothing done with his character when there is so much that could be done off a more mature Boba Fett that struggled under many years of being a bounty hunter especially when addressing his prequel lore.
I edited this out because I started a war in the replies.
Best description
The book of boring feet
The Tusken flashbacks were good
I absolutely adore the first half, mostly the flashbacks
You know it's a problem when even a child calls your product boring
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It just feels like they really wanted the ending to be a mandalorian s3 and a book of boba crossover
But they didn't put in any work for it
The good thing about Mandalorian was that s1 estabilished the character and s2 brought in the people like Ahsoka and Bo-Katan
You cannot convince me that Ep 5 e 6 aren't just the first two The Mandalorian Season 3 episodes
My biggest problem with the show was the wasted potential. I was excited for a political Star Wars stories, focused on gangs and the criminal underground. All with a character a lot more brutal than we're usually allowed to cheer for. But Disney was too afraid to give up an episodic adventure of the week format. They weren't going to let Boba Fett be the character we were promised. And they were never going to focus on slower stories with political intrigue. Instead, we got a crippled, half hearted Mandalorian with no direction.
Edit: Also imagine how cool it would've been if the show was self aware about being set in Tatooine. Imagine if it was acknowledged that Boba was fighting over the ruined remains of a desert planet and needed to move on. That would've been a perfect goodbye to the planet while promising more for the future of the franchise.
Same! I was so on board with the idea of a Star Wars organized crime drama. I was intrigued by the idea of Boba Fett trying to be a fair and just ruler, but meeting opposition every step of the way that would tempt him to respond with violence. Didn't take long to realize Disney wasn't going to have the stones to deliver that.
Yeah, Disney is “self aware” in all the wrong ways
Yeah, you summed up what I thought the show was going to be about , and I was very disappointed because I really like the Star Wars bounty hunter and crime syndicates stories .
@Force without form the only thing Disney knows that is 'Cool' is literally just character design, they can make some cool looking characters only to have them flop and be so freaking useless it hurts
Kylo Ren is my favourite example, give the cross-guard lightsaber and sith robes to the villain that doesn't even win a fucking victory at all in the entire trilogy, the one villain i was hoping that could rival Vader in presence and outmatch him in power, and they end up turning him into Rey's bitch
its gotten so bad, its actually insulting how much they will fuck over characters with layers just to form another shitty story about good guys v bad guys
Exactly. I hoped to see the sopranos with a starwars twist. No just mandalorian lite
Introducing the twin Hutts was narratively confusing because there's already an existing Hutt that would make much more sense as an enemy to Boba. Jabba has a son, his nameis Rotta and he was introduced in the Clone Wars when Anakin and Ahsoka saved him from Dooku. You'd think that if there's any of the Hutt crime syndicate who'd want Jabba's old territory, it'd be him.
Dont hutts age way slower then other races. Rota is probably still a child at the point
@@Selzthal96 Perhaps, but I still think it could have worked. Not only could have it been interesting to make Rotta a puppet of the twin Hutt or just a spoiled entitled brat, but also see how Boba deals with the fact that his enemy is a troubled youth who's angry about his fathers death... kinda like him.
well in legends there was yet another hutt on tatooine that boba was hired to kill so that hutt could've shown up instead.
@@officernealy I can't believe how random ass dudes in a CZcams's comment section make better stories than dedicated writers lmaoo that's such a good idea
Technically true
Prior to watching this show I had seen a bunch of videos in my recommended saying it sucked. For the start of the show I didn't get what people were getting at. For the first 4 episodes the ratio of modern to flashback sequences felt off, but I appreciated the slow buildup to some big event that the modern scenes were setting the stage for.
Then episodes 5-7 happened.
As mentioned in this video 5 and 6 were amazing episodes, but they were completely about Mando and barely featured Boba at all, making you question why they'd be in the show in the first place.
And then there was the finale. Dear god. I don't think I've ever seen a more awkwardly paced, throw anything at the wall that'll stick series of sequences in my life. The only bits I remotely enjoyed were the new droidakas and rancor, but even those had their flaws. Such slow and low stakes sequences made those slow buildup scenes from 1-4 feel more like repetitive time fillers.
Amazing how Mando in his show is way more in line with the badass people where expecting from Boba Fett back in the 1980's than anything Boba did in his own program.
Also I demand a spinoff staring the Ant Droids on my desk by Thursday
22:31 Also I give you a million thanks for this meme. Keetongu always rung a bell I couldn't quite place
I enjoyed it just watching it, but the analysis you give is pretty on point now that I think about it.
The moped hover bike chase was something that I noticed right away as feeling way too slow, though. And some of the action scenes, like the upgraded droidekas, felt slow, like characters could only do things one at a time. Mando got inside the force field and on top of the droid…and then just stood there? Like he didn’t do anything while it was shooting the rancor!?
Personally, I didn’t mind the Tusken raider backstory, it fills in some time while also explaining how he got the spiked stick he used in Mando S2, and why his armor went missing. The story building of it was interesting for me.
But a lot of the scenes of Boba trying to run the city again did fall flat, like he’s trying to revolutionize how the system works without planning anything.
Still, watching the show was fun. Just taking it at face value, enjoying if possible, I did enjoy it. The N1 scenes were cool for me, especially
I honestly think that these new Star Wars shows should just all be one anthology/continuous series similar to what Clone Wars was. Book of Boba Fett is a perfect example of how that could work as the first four episodes were only about Boba and his supporting cast, similar to how Clone Wars would have 2-4 episodes focused on a particular group of characters for an arc. By making all of these shows a singular series, it would really help improve the reception of some of these crossovers because instead of thinking that Mando took over Boba Fett's shows, we'd just be thinking that was a great Mandolorian episode. Then for shows such as Bad Batch and hopefully Obi-Wan, where they won't have a bunch of crossovers within these shows, those are the stories that they make into their own shows.
Granted, this wouldn't help with the directing, writing, and various issues that these shows have, but it would definitely help in a lot of places.
Man, how I wished that the Bad Batch didn't had a lot of crossovers, I got so tired of seeing them constantly stumbling upon some fan favourite character every single episode who constantly stole the plot from the supposedly main characters.
I feel like The Book of Boba Fett had a lot of the same problems but with almost no redeemable qualities, so it's problems became a lot more visible.
I mean it basically is just Mando Season 2.5, so you can look at it that way.
I thought the same exact thing. The post ROTJ shows could’ve been put into one anthology show like the clone wars but obviously, they most likely didnt think of this. They also don’t want two shows going on at the same time. They could’ve do it like how the DC shows on CW does it.
Like you I have a lot of criticisms for this show, but I think it all boils down to the fact that the show and the characters had so much potential, but the creators just didn’t put in the work to make it a good story. Boba Fett, Fennec, Bane, all the characters and elements could have been really good if there had been real effort. But the show wasn’t created because someone had a good idea for a Boba Fett story, it was created because Disney wants to make as much money off Star Wars as it can. Clone Wars has good and bad parts, but at least it wasn’t a cash grab, they actually had the incentive to focus on the narrative and that’s why it’s better.
My headcanon is that Filoni and Favreau BS'd the first four episodes to appease Kathleen Kennedy, then called up Bryce Dallas Howard to get back to their Mandalorian/Clone Wars crossover in the second half.
Honestly, I think you're spot on. I thought it was strange that Boba was gonna take over the show for the second season, especially since season one left with Grogu being taken by Luke, Mando getting the dark saber, and the other mandalorians facing the fact the supposed religious extremist now has more claim on Mandalore than them. It having only seven episodes and half of them Mando and Grogu came back in to continue the plot left from season 1.
@@LadyBravefalcon I highly doubt that happen.
@@Blue-Apple-fc9eo That's why it's a headcanon, mon frère. Isn't it fun to pretend?
@@LadyBravefalcon Oh sorry didn’t know what is an headcannon means.
That kenobi comment aged like milk..sad indeed
When I first saw CAD Bane in the show I almost lost it because oh my goodness my favorite villain in all of Star Wars has finally returned. I have mixed emotions on the young Boba Fett and CAD Bane story in the last Clone Wars Ark because then again I wouldn't have wanted Cab Bane to die but it would have been great to see both in the Final season of The Clone Wars. Just One Last Time.
It confuses me to no end how Disney, a multibillion company, treats its Star Wars shows like a slightly more stylized CW show. The lack of consistent directing, plot, screenwriting, and overall poor set design is just so confusing. The effort is just so lacklustre, the only good episode with overall consistent tone, story, and respect for the SW universe was directed by Bryce Dallas Howard.
You'd think Disney would understand that they have enough money to take risks and give passionate people the platform they need to make something wonderful. Bah, why do that when they can just fart out the same drivel like the Lion King remake.
@@KrodaStagg which still make them bank, thats the biggest problem is that most people just consoom.
It's worse than the cartoon shows, because they put no budget or effort into live action. The Bad Batch had more funding than BOBF. Live action failed to get Ahsoka right, they failed to get Bane right, and have failed everything in between.
@@KrodaStagg Yeah - let's just ignore Star Wars Visions. Bah; but hey - why acknowledge something good when you can just whine that there's nothing good with Star Wars anymore and snub your nose at something that has actual effort put into it? Screw paying attention to something that has creative direction, right? Also, Lion King came out almost three years ago. Get the hell over it.
@@justinstewart9145 How much has Disney paid you to write this, good sir?
The single problem with Star Wars at the moment is that they’re not exploring any cool unrecognised planets, instead, they use Tatoowine constantly.
Ya and the most interesting planet they chose to destroy (kamino)
Tatooine could be interesting if used right but the sad thing is that Disney doesn’t want to do anything new with the planet
Because they are not confident in their shows unlike Lucas was when he was in charge we saw multiple planets while Disney really is obsessed with Tattooine because less money to spend on it.
That is one of the things that I liked about Fallen Order. While it did reuse 4 planets, it did expand on them. Like how there was a Zeffo temple of Dathomir. Showing that there is more to this world than the Nightsisters / Nightbrothers from The Clone Wars and Rebels. Or "foreshadowing" Starkiller Base with the trench on Ilum. Bracca is just used as the opening set piece and it is one hell of a ride as you escape the Empire in the second half. While also playing on those heart strings as you see symbols of the republic be reduced to scrap for the Empire. Climbing up the Origin Tree on Kashyyyk was fun as well. Seeing and exploring more of that world is a great thing since we didn't see much of it in Revenge of the Sith. As it was just where Yoda was during the beginning of order 66.
Ilum though is my favourite out of the 4 returning planets. The beginning creates a sense of calm. Obviously for gameplay reasons at this point there are no enemies but it create a false sense of security that this world in the unknown reaches and a world so important to the Jedi may have evaded the Empire for now. That is until you leave the caves and run right into the heart of the trench that the Empire has made. In order to harvest the Kyber crystals within. Which would later be turned into Starkiller base by the First Order.
I feel that the problem with Tattooine is not that it is a returning planet, just it has nothing really going for it in world of expanding its world building. It is just a desert planet with nothing going for it. Reusing familiar locations doesn't help either.
Odd. It almost seems like the creative reservoirs are tapped and Disney is using nostalgia (both for OT fans and younger TCW fans) to keep you enticed.
Something I've been thinking about a lot, and really wish had been utilized in the series as it would help excuse some creative decisions regarding Boba's character:
When Boba fell into the pit, it was a completely different world than the one he emerged in. The Empire has fallen, two of his most prominent employers being Darth Vader and Jabba the Hutt are dead. The New Republic has risen. It's a new order of things, and Boba Fett is completely in the dark of it all. Show us Boba Fett being out of place, maybe see that this new world has new requirements he needs to adopt if he wants to thrive in it thus explaining his change of character, but we need to see him go through said change. Maybe this new world has no place for the ruthlessness of old world bounty hunters and that's why he has to undergo a change and learn to be more diplomatic. Show him struggle with it. Show him getting in trouble for having aided the Empire in the past. Show us him trying to cope with the fact the Era he knew and adapted for had passed.
And have that be Season 2. Have Season 1 be nothing but self contained stories of Boba Fett's hunts, not necessarily a big over arching plot. Show us who he is before you show us who he tries to be. Then have season 1 end with him falling in the pit.
You can tell they made a load of flashback scenes screwing around in the desert that take up a massive chunk of the first four episodes to cover up their inability to tell an engaging story set in the present time. Remove all the flashbacks and Mandalorian Season 3 episodes 1 and 2 and you have about 2 episodes worth of actual story focusing on what Boba Fett is currently doing. And while episodes 5 and 6 were really good I just wasn't able to enjoy them as much as I could if they were in The Mandalorian because of the fact *they are two whole episodes focusing on Din Djarin and Co in a show called The Book Of Boba Fett!* When I was watching episode 5 for the first time I initially thought the episode would spend about 15 to 20 minutes reintroducing The Mandalorian before focusing back on Boba Fett and showing the two teaming up in the episode. But no, Boba Fett practically doesn't appear at all in these episodes and it constantly left me groaning at the screen thinking "Okay that's enough can we go back to what Boba Fett is doing now!? I want to see some interesting content about *HIM.* Save this awesome stuff about Din Djarin for The Mandalorian Season 3 where it belongs." Seriously, if these two episodes just aired on their own in something like a Dinsey+ exclusive release, I would have literally no idea that they were made for the Book of Boba Fett. I couldn't help thinking they shifted their focus to The Mandalorian out of fear that people would give up on the show. You know a show is bad when even the people behind it aren't confident in it doing well.
The trouble with Boba Fett is that he doesn’t really have any character traits. From the beginning, he’s just been kind of a mercenary asshole that exists to move the plot along and sell toys rather than, you know, be a character.
Originally yes, he was a teeny tiny plot device with a very cool costume. However, I would argue that the EU context have made him and Jango compelling before, even if his archetype is simple. What would have been nice and easy was to just make him Star Wars' Batman and have him take a bunch of bounties. I have no idea how they got to where they are thinking what they made with Book of Boba Fett was a good idea.
@@sqwid12 It would be so easy to just progress from his prequel material as well while acknowledging his bounty hunter past in the original trilogy. The story that shows the kind of growth Boba Fett has accumulated throughout the years through the episodes would've been good. But the story is just the boring crime lord business that is scared of giving Boba Fett any semblance of character beyond him being all about respect as a leader from episode 2.
Boba Fett was inspired by Clint Eastwood's Man with no Name. Jon Favreau took Fett's character traits and gave them to Mando.
@@horhay3608 Don't forget Jango's backstory of having his parents slaughtered by an amoral private army then becoming a foundling of a tribe of mandalorians who follow the "true" code (the Supercommando Codex and The Way). Then losing most of that new family too. On top of both being honorable, but no bullshit, combatants who would be at odds with other sects of Mandalorians
So he’s like a violent Porg?
Honestly, if they just concluded Boba's story with him taking over the throne at the end of Mandalorian Season 2. That would've been fine with me, instead of him getting his own series.
yeah true, it was way more badass than anything he did in this show
For the record Boba's popularity came from the books, comics, and video games, but I guess all of that is no longer cannon. (Legends Stuff) Disney turned Boba Fett from a Badass into a chump.
I really love this show sure it had some bad parts but we saw him go through an actual character arc. He was a killer then he found a family (the Tuskens) when this family was taken from him he changes his motive. He just wants a family. Throughout the saga people keep telling him he’s just like his father Cad Bane even says this
“You’ve got your fathers blood pumping through your veins.” This show wasn’t about him becoming a leader, it was about him finding a family and proving to people that he can change his fate and be better than Jango. And when he’s in trouble he ignites the killer within not to cause harm but to protect his people. When he’s attacked by assassins he spares them symbolizing that people can change. He doesn’t want to be like other rulers this is shown by his dialogue with fennec. Where she says to him that he should be carried around to show his power and he declines. He faces real struggles with the mayor when he returns the assassin when this approach doesn’t work he becomes the killer we knew him to be. To protect and serve his people. Cad Bane isn’t just a villain but a reflection of his past. And with that he ultimately defeats his past. The show takes his death not as one but as a rebirth and a chance to change.
i would have genuinely loved if this show was all tusken raider stuff, developing boba into the way he is by the time of the mandalorian
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yes please
I’d be happy with it all just being a lead up to him shooting bib
Season 1 should've been set entirely during the flashback timepoint and elaborated on that much further. The better if it were released before Mando season 2. BoBF 2 should've been set during the current timepoint. Boba should've been a hardcore amoral son of a bitch, but loyal to his friends. I would've liked Season 2 to end with him trying to get revenge on Luke and getting his ass beaten.
I think it’s incredibly lazy to take a pre-established character and just say “well he spent time with a tribe and now he’s a completely different man”. It feels like they didn’t know how to write a good antihero so they just lazily did a 180 on his character to make him peaceful and sanitized.
Your point about Cad Bane makes sense, however I think Bossk is more fitting to the role of mentor, Boba was literally his protégé in his early years as a Bounty Hunter, meanwhile we barely see Boba and Cad interact (at least in TCW)
it comes down the fact that new shows(bad batch, book of boba) take a deleted TCW story arc as canon that already happened, which never got released aside from wip shots.
In which Boba and Bane met up at prison and became friends, planned an escape together and Bane became Boba's teacher, but some time later during a job at tatooine he'd reveal that he did so mostly because he didn't like how while he got mentored by Jango himself, he doesn't have a chance to prove that he's the best bounty hunter(jango being killed by jedi stopped him and clone army itself is a proof of his skills).
So he decides to take boba and lift him up to his father's level just so he could then kill him to prove that Bane is the best bounty hunter, not Fetts.
The duel ended with them both shooting each other in the head, but boba survived because he had his helmet on(it's where the bump on his helmet comes from) while Bane just got domed because he only has a hat.
Except, of course he was much later retconned to still be alive in bad batch and managed to somehow survive the duel and now has a metal plate in his head.
With that plotline in mind it makes a lot of sense why he'd go after boba now and why he'd be Boba's final challenge in overcoming his bounty hunter past.
I think the Clone Wars season 3 episode where Ventress joins Boba's bounty hunter crew for a full 20 minutes is the only time Boba has been an actually effective character since Empire... and he still was bested in a humiliating fashion at the end of that episode.....
I’m rewatching clone wars and ngl im kinda sad u didn’t continue the clone wars in retrospective. I finished season one and it was a good way to see what other ppl think and u did a great job. Why did u stop it?
Temuera’s a fine actor, just look at his other performances. It’s the bad direction that brought him down (weird pacing, shots, etc.). You can see the same effect with other actors like Ming Na-Wen.
With the right direction I think he would make a fantastic Rex, though. If only there was a show coming up with a good director where Rex could show up 🤔
The bad direction killed this show.
It's not Temuera's fault that he had bad direction for almost all of his episodes and that he had a script with someone who didn't understand Boba at all.
He is very mediocre in this,the bad script dulls his talents considerably.
He sucks in this, not because hes a bad actor but because the direction is bland and uninspired
if you see him in "once we where warriors" he was a really great actor but here i realy struggled to get through the series
@@trackingdifbeatsaber8203 Once Were Warriors*
just imagine a casual watcher turning in for Mando S3 and wondering what the hell happened, why Din isnt with his kind anymore, where the beskar spear is, why Grogu is back with Mando immediately after leaving with Luke, where Din got his new ship (okay, maybe the last one not so much but still).
At this point his inclusion in the Book of Boba Fett literally made Mando S3 worse before it even aired...
Exactly. I’m worried how they’re gonna handle catching up the audience in Season 3. No matter what they do, I think it’s probably still gonna throw off pacing badly.
But I don’t know… maybe they’ll somehow find a good way to get past it lol
@@AdamC_465 I expect BoBF 5&6 are going to be reused as Mando S3x01 and 2.
It sucks that they're probably gonna fix the plotholes by a cluttered info dump of an episode
They’d need to start with a “previously on Book Of Boba Fett..” recap at the beginning of the next episode. Either way the start of Mando S3 feels compromised.
12:17 you know how good they did Cad Bane that when we only see his silhouette, and Schaff saying “we’ll talk about him in a second”, and you still get chills seeing it.
I think more so than using Boba/Cad Bane flashbacks to show how evil Cad Bane is, it could also be a vehicle to show how bad Boba also used to be. His "I've changed" story never really came through in show.
I hope too many poeple don't dog on Tem Morrison's acting. A BIG part of acting is working with what you are directed and written to do. I think the biggest faults of this show lie there. He's even hinted a couple times that there are things he personally would've done differently.
I mean what are people expecting this guy is dumb as hell with that take. Boba is a monotone character regardless of actor, he's always been that way. Temuera is just playing Boba as Boba is, stoic.
Ive heard somewhere that Temura Morrison didnt actually like the script he was given, and when no one was looking, he would change a bit of it
Yeah, but there comes a time when an actor needs to say "No, I can't do it like this, as it's an insult to a the character."
Would be nice if he showed the interviews that Morrison had, saying how he disliked how Boba Fett talks alot, wasn't happy with the script because he's not doing anything interesting etc. Morrison knows how Boba Fett should be like and it's basically what the fans want so for an actor to understand their character deserves alot of respect because it shows they truly care and arn't in it for the money.
Honestly, I really liked the Tusken Raider stuff until they died off screen. It was a very different story from what I've seen in star wars before and it felt more fitting for Boba Fett. He was still a pretty neutral character but had motivation that I really bought into. Seeing him become an actual Tusken Raider was really cool.
I think that a better idea for this show would be to set this as show taking place before Mando, making it like 3 episodes long, and focusing on him with the Tuskens fighting the Syndicate. He could be built up as a member of the tribe, work with them, find Fennec Shand, develop them better, and actually show the Tuskens dying.
Banes portrayal was the best part of the show when compared to other animated characters coming into live action. Mainly because of his voice actor making a return which worried me at first until finding out, it's my biggest issue with Ahsoka. Dawsons portrayal is good as an older wiser Ahsoka but it just didn't feel like it was the same character without Ashley Eckstein which worries me if they bring back characters from Rebels when she gets her own show.
Boba Fett has always been and still is my favorite character, and in the comics he was equal in skill to Darth Vader (They come to a draw). This show made me so excited when I heard it was coming out. It was such a dissapointment to see how it turned out. Boba Fett should have been the most dangerous character in the galaxy, seeing as he litterally took down a star destroyer as a *child*, but instead I got an old guy kill the sarlac and kill Cad Bane.
Almost like there’s a huge difference……
@@Kirdo-6241 There wasn't supposed to be. A lot of those comics are still canon.
@@TacticalTurtles Too bad so sad.
@@Kirdo-6241 Ok? Not sure what your deal is.
@@TacticalTurtles My deal is that you’re barking up the wrong tree.
Filoni's biggest flaw is that he gets overly fond of his own creations. I get the impulse to shove as many of them as possible after CW ended and their future was uncertain, but it's getting to the point where it just seems like favoritism.
I’d say he reached that point when he shoved time travel in the franchise to undo Ahsoka’s death
@@skibot9974 YES, that was absolutely RIDICULOUS. I was baffled when people praised Rebels season 4.
@@ltb1345 yeah that along with the hurry to finish which left quite a sense of plot threads abandoned and unfulfilled makes me really dislike Rebels’ final season. Only episodes I can say I liked were “Jedi Night” and “Dume”
BUT LOOK ITS CAD BANE!
The thing is, new characters in Star Wars so far feel like genuinely bad characters that no one wants to see. Would you rather see Cad Bane, Grievous, and Cpt Rex. Or would you rather see cameos from the Martez Sisters, The Mayor + that Twiilek, and whoever else shows up that's brand new?
I personally enjoyed the show, but I feel that everyone wouldn’t liked it more if it wasn’t called “The Book of Boba Fett”
Honestly not even then
That’s *literally* false advertising
It would still be terrible then.
E.
the first 4 episodes still would be really boring
This is what I love about you, Schaffrillas. You have an opinion that is vastly different from mine, and yet present good enough points that I can see what you mean. Not many CZcamsrs can do that.
Yeah just using old characters instead of making new compelling ones is pretty lazy but I'd be lying if I said it didn't excite me just a bit. With how more frequent it is there's a possibility that Cal from fallen order might show up, and the world needs more of him. Probably the best Jedi character aside from Ahsoka.
This is more of a personal issue than any objective flaw, but what frustrates me about Episode 6 (which is still pretty good relative to the first four episodes) is the idea of Luke's new Jedi Order reviving the tradition of prohibiting emotional attachments -- y'know, the primary reason for Anakin destroying the old Order in the first place? It would've made more sense for Luke to reject that part of the Jedi Code in trying not to repeat the mistakes of the old generation, especially considering how it was basically by embracing the father-son attachment against the advice of Obi-Wan and Yoda that allowed Luke to redeem Vader; in fact, that's pretty much what Luke did in the old Expanded Universe, even going as far as to hold marriage ceremonies for his Jedi students. I get that the show wanted to give Grogu that dilemma of choosing between his training and Mando (which IMO was emotionally compelling in the moment but kinda cliched looking back), but there are better ways of pushing Grogu's development that doesn't involve hindering Luke's (while one could argue that it foreshadows Luke's later mistake with Ben in TLJ, but that was the tragic irony of Luke trying to prevent history from repeating itself, not consciously contributing to that cycle).
Also as much as I love Cad Bane, I have to disagree with your point about him being a perfect fit for this show; if anything, he would've been better off dying in that cancelled Clone Wars episode since it would've marked Boba's ascension from whiny teenager to "best bounty hunter in the galaxy". This was just the Maul-Solo cameo all over again; his initial appearance and shootout didn't excite me after seeing Bad Batch, and like you said he was shoehorned in at the last minute.
I didn’t take it as Luke trying to prohibit emotional attachment as much as presenting Grogu with a choice. Because he wasn’t in the training mentally. It’s never indicated that he wants to train as a Jedi to begin with so the question is more like “which do you want to do for real?” He was asking Grogu to be introspective and self actualize
Plot twist, Gorgu burned the Jedi temple just to spite Luke
What I get from Luke retreading the old jedi rules of not having personal attachment is that he wants to honor Yoda's teachings so much that he just carries everything over. He thinks his approach wouldn't fail because he buys into the myth of Luke Skywalker that clouds his judgement and handling of things. Maybe he thinks that by giving his students the choice of choosing to be jedi or not would root out those who would otherwise be emotionally compromised like Anakin was. So when they do choose to be jedi, surely they wouldn't fall to the darkside because they know what they would be giving up.
And when his jedi order fails again is when he develops his Last Jedi persona where he questions whether the jedi should even exist at all
because how else will we get Luke from TLJ who completely fucked up the New Jedi Order, and was obsessed with "THE SCARED JEDI TEXTS" so they can beat in our heads that caring about the old movies are toxic or whatever?
That's because this Luke dosen't realize this until the events of The Last Jedi.
Also my issue with Boba Fett is that he wants to be the new crime lord of the city, but doesn't want to commit crimes??? When Fennec suggests they can control the spice trade with the Pykes gone, Boba rejects that plan. OK BOBA, SO THEN WHAT IS THE POINT OF ALL THIS? Boba doesn't even want to intrude on not having appointments??? Boba should have been the new mayor instead of a crime lord.
It could've been a good show if they left Boba Fett being morally ambiguous but y'know... Disney. Since Mando was moving away from his bounty hunting roots, it would have been nice to have a show solely from a bounty hunters perspective, with episodes being centered around the actual bounty hunting process, he could have various bounty hunter antagonists throughout the show and maybe have Bane be a recurring villain. You could even flesh out some of the more positive relationships he has with some bounty hunters like Bossk and Dengar. Also, as much as I agree the Tusken flashbacks were actually one of the better parts of this show, I would cut it out in favor of maybe having him fight one of them for the robes after he escapes the Sarlacc so that he can retain his ruthless nature. I'm sure you can come up with plenty of interesting material with a premise like that, unfortunately that's not what we got. Once they had Boba kill Bib, they wrote themselves into a corner, now Boba HAS to rule Tatooine and give up on bounty hunting unfortunately.
I thought the show was okay. I liked that they gave the tusken raiders their own culture, and it was interesting to see something else other than screaming and shooting. But i do agree Boba was super boring. I would’ve loved a story where boba struggles to rule because Boba is too nice and people take advantage of that, and that he has to bring in his violent self to regain order. On top of that, i really agree cad bane should’ve been introduced earlier and be a massive threat to Boba.
eh. the mandalorian already explored the tusken raiders as not just being “savages.” and that’s not even mentioning how many other times this exact same “i’m a hardened warrior who also has feelings” idea has been used. it was done well with mando and grogu, and the tusken raider feature made sense because it was a piece of a coherent theme. but bobf is an entirely different show, and one with worse direction. the same messaging has become boring and tired. especially egregious was the domesticated rancor.
I was expecting him to be his more violent self at the end but we never got it.
Yeah, agree and was hoping for that. Trying to rule peacefully but ultimately realizing that he can’t trust everyone to be loyal, and it backfired on him. Instead all the important people are instantly loyal to him for…reasons?
I would have really liked to see him struggle more with ruling. Not for him to be an ass, but definitely with more ruthlessness.
@@NocturnalMelody And maybe Bane could have had an opposite arc of him getting screwed over due to violently pushing everyone away and trusting no one?