Attack of the Clones... 21 Years Later
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- Join me as we revisit the highly debated Star Wars film, "Attack of the Clones," 21 years after its release. In this video essay, we dive deep into the plot and structure of the film, examining its strengths and weaknesses and exploring its lasting impact on the Star Wars saga.
From the mysterious discovery of the Clone Army to the motivations driving the Separatist Movement, we analyze the intricacies of the film's plot, highlighting key moments and their significance. We explore the three-act structure and discuss how it shapes the overall narrative, providing a fresh perspective on the film's storytelling approach.
However, no film is without its flaws. We candidly examine the execution issues that "Attack of the Clones" faced, discussing aspects such as pacing, dialogue, and visual effects. Through thoughtful analysis, we shed light on the challenges faced during production and how they influenced the final product.
Anakin Skywalker and Padme Amidala, two central characters in the film, receive special attention in our exploration. We delve into their character development, dissecting their complex relationship, and the impact it has on their respective journeys. By examining their arcs, we gain a deeper understanding of their struggles, emotions, and the choices that ultimately shape their fates.
Whether you're a die-hard Star Wars fan or a casual viewer, this video essay provides valuable insights into "Attack of the Clones" and its place in the Star Wars universe. Join the discussion as we reevaluate this polarizing entry in the franchise and appreciate the film's unique contributions.
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I will say one of the funniest chain of events in this movie that never fails to make me laugh is the layers to the bug assassination scene. Sideous and Gunray want Padme dead so they ask Dooku to kill her. Dooku asks jango to kill. Jango asks Zam to kill her. Zam haves bugs try to kill her
Yeah seriously. I was taking a screenwriting class in college a few years ago which is around the time I decided to rewatch the prequels. Everything you said stood out so much to me when I saw AOTC. Like it's such a basic rule to not make something so overcomplicated if it doesn't need to be.
Another error was that George decided to make Zam a shape shifter but does absolutely nothing with it. She runs into the bar to escape Obi Wan and Anakin and never changes into somebody else to hide 😂. So why bother make that detail apart of her character? The movie is at the beginning of the first act and already theres so many annoying issues
Dont forget the droid carrying the bugs lmao
@@EmperorDank Do our politicians personally assassinate enemies or do they send a trusted pawn to hire an accomplice to hire a mercenary, who knows the target is well defended so sends another pawn? Also the scene is a throwback to oldschool cinema. I'll defend the prequels til im dead.
hahahahah
If the assassination attacks are actually laying a trail of breadcrumbs rather than a real attempt to kill Padme then the extra chain of people make sense.
Of all the dozens of outfits Padme does wear in AOTC, her Geonosis is the sharpest and most iconic of the bunch.
100%,
@@thegoldman25 I hope you get to make videos of certain horror movies in the future.
Agreed, the lake dress also deserves respect, I actually bought that outfit for someone one haha
And unfortunately, it's the most sexualized outfit. There was no reason to cut it into a crop-top other than to please the horny superfans.
"sharpest"
Is that a pun about the moment when she gets hurt by Nexu with its sharp claws?
As always, the best part of this movie is John Williams' exciting, heartwrenchingly beautiful and timelessly iconic score.
Those are the best parts of any star wars movie! Even the sequels! He always manages to pop the fuck off when it comes to the score.
@@kdusel1991 Yeah, Rey's theme and the way it develops across the three movies is the best part of her character. My favourite John Williams theme of all is Across the Stars (Padme and Ani's love theme)
It's a shame it's wasted on such rubbish
It was really good because he thought the story was, IMO the reason the ST score isn't as good because neither was the story (yes Rey's theme and a few other parts are good but no where near the PT - which had many many more good parts per se)
Can I just point out how the Padme on Geonosis scene is funnier when you realise that Padme was the one who got them to Geonosis because Anakin was told to not go there by the Jedi Council, but they didn’t say anything about Padme doing it, so Padme took advantage of that loophole and sent herself and Anakin to Geonosis.
I don't think Palpatine has a strick plan, I think he just has goals he needs to reach, so he figures out how to get there based off what is happening around him
i wish the movie made that a bit more clear
@thegoldman25 yeah, the movies don't really specify what his plan is, so it just leaves you to think that he planed everything to happen, even though that would make any sense
i believe this is the correct take. In the Bad Batch we see Palpatine twist the reveal to the senate about the bombing of Kamino as a indictment of the Clone army and why the empire needs conscription. no matter what happens, he can rhetoric his way into getting what he wants
It's been ages since I've seen the prequel trilogy, but my impression is you're right. My guess is that his "plan" was more meta: "Facilitate Anakin's attachment to people in order to invoke strong emotion, which will in turn lead to his fall to the dark side." This plan would succeed whether Anakin failed to protect Padme's life (and therefore he feels guilty and wants to be more powerful so he doesn't fail like that again), or would also succeed if he falls in love with her. Since he unexpectedly fell in love with her, his plan still works because if he believes her life is in danger (from childbirth this time), he gets scared and wants more power in order to protect her. Same basic plan, but different execution depending on how things play out.
The plan has been in the rocks for 1000 years, so he probably intended for all of this to happen and adjusted to the slight variations in it. If you look at most of what happens in the prequels you'll see it tied back to palpatine in some manner
Looking at this one as a murder mystery greatly enhances the experience for me. Kenobi traveling from place to place, spending much of the film in a rainy setting - it gives off almost a noir-y mood as he's picking up clues and getting deeper and more entangled into the mystery.
That would certainly be in line with how Lucas does films. He wholesale borrows scenes and plotlines from other movies. Eg. Scene at the end of Revenge of Sith where Darth Vader awakes is a reconstruction of the famous Frankenstein scene. You can draw parallels between the Monster and Vader. There is a good case to be made that they should be critiqued as such. However, this sort of analysis is beyond the average viewer's ability or interest.
The only problem is all the clues to solve the mystery are basically handed to Obi-Wan on a silver platter. Like why would a bounty hunter with a rocket launcher on his back, flame throwers and laser blasters on his arms, and two laser blasters on his hip kill Zam Wessel using a toxic dart that can be directly traced back to the one planet where the cloning is taking place? And then when Obi-Wan shows up at the planet they are just like, "Hey, welcome master Jedi. We've had no contact with your emissary for over a decade, but we don't find it odd at all. So here's the whole story of how and why the clones were created." The mystery isn't really that mysterious all.
@@TheLordboki Anybody who has ever seen Frankenstein or knows at least the basics of that story would have gotten the reference. It's honestly not that deep to make the connection. When I showed it to my daughters when they were kids they laughed at that scene (like everyone) and one of them literally said, "He's like Frankenstein."
it seems like there should be a designated person on movie productions who reads the shooting script to find plot holes and lay out a list of things that must be addressed in the final cut so the movie isn't stupid.
@@robertoso8796 George Lucas has always been an "idea man." But he has never been very good at putting the ideas into long form with lots of details that make sense. During the original trilogy he had Gary Kurtz to check him and people to either write the screenplays or clean up his drafts. Once he took complete control and had a new producer who didn't check him, but kissed his feet for 9 years it was bound to be a mess.
I feel if you must describe Attack of the Clones, you could describe a portion of it as a mystery, as Obi-Wan spends most of the movie trying to find Padme's killer
lol some mystery
@@thegoldman25 Yeah, I never said it worked but it's either that or a space love story
The whole "Anakin doesn't know how to talk to girls" argument may make logical sense, but I feel like it's just a generous defence for what is probably just clumsy writing. Who knows, maybe it was deliberate..
As a sequel defender, I'd be a hypocrite to criticize prequel fans for their mental gymnastics when I do plenty of my own
Poor writing is the obvious answer. George wanted to do a romance like Titanic, but he wasn’t good at it. The narrative doesn’t support that Anakin was bad at talking to girls because the the cringey dialogue somehow works to win Padme over.
People who say otherwise are just starting from a conclusion that the films must be secretly good, so they’re working backwards from that.
@@thedapperdolphin1590Thats BS. Anakin isn't a suave ladies man like Han. He's much more of a drunk in love schoolboy like Luke when Luke is smitten with Leia in ANH. Anakin doesn't win Padme over with schmoozing, he wins her over with sincerity and their bond that was established 10 years ago. And come on, have you seen how many female fans Hayden Christensen has? Anakin is clearly a good-lookiny guy, so that can't hurt.
You are right. And many forget that the Jedi are diplomats, so even if he can't flirt, he hasn't forgotten how to talk. He still has peers and probably diplomatic missions he has gone on. How exactly do people think the Jedi spend there time?
@@MrZackavelli You mean the bond she formed with him when he was a mop-headed three year old? Jeez, that's dark man.
Big eyebrow raise when you said "I get people are into different things" and show Anakin choking Padmé lololol
hahahah
I remember at the time being so excited to see Yoda. He was a light saber, he was always my favorite (alongside Jabba the Hutt) and I finally get to see him be a bad ass and break out some cool moves was really awesome to a 10 year old me.
As bad as it is , this will always be my favorite I was about 5 years old when it came out . The lightsabers the many Jedi we get to see fighting in the end, the little bit of Obi-Wan and Anakin we get. My nostalgia goggles just always get put on when I watch it. I know all of its faults yet it will always be my Star Wars movie that really made me fall in love with the series and forge me into the lifer fan that I am.
I really don't think it was that bad though. Mainly the speeder chase with Zam, then Jango vs Obi Wan and then on is the actually "good part of it" which is most of the movie. I get you though and I remember watching it alot as a kid even though it was Jango vs Obi Wan and then on. I could watch the Jango vs Obi Wan entire sequence and the battle of Geonosis for hours.
I agree, I love this movie
In The Phantom Menace, we can see how outer rim territories (Tatooine) are unhappy with the Republic because the Republic does not adequately care for them (slavery). This is one reason for succession, but, it's not a strong one. It should've been touched on more.
Similary, I think your analysis of why Padme would fall in love with Anakin is spot-on to Lucas’s thoughts, but yeah, I agree, the execution is lacking.
I've always thought that the Jedi Council being blind and corrupt was in line with Episode 6, where Luke uses his passion and rage to defeat his father and his love to spare him, defeating Vader and Palpatine through emotion while still fighting for what's right. Throghout the trilogy, we can see him ignoring the advice of the Jedi over and over again and simply doing what's right (this is also seen with Ahsoka but that's not exactly relevant). In the prequel trilogy, we can see how these same rules and viewpoints brought about their downfall.
All-in-all, I pretty much agree with everything you've said here. Well done- subscribed :)
The worst part is, is that this movie had so much potential. Rewatching it now, I can kind of get a glimpse of what George Lucas was trying to do, and had he executed his plan better, and allowed more autonomy for his staff, and actors, I really think this movie would've been one of the best Star Wars' movies. Thankfully Clone Wars made up for this monstrosity.
in hindsight, the prequel movies should have been a tv series with time to explore all the stuff he wanted to do and not clap a whole season into 1 episode.
Monstrosity is a strong word
I really liked this movie. I thought it was good but not perfect but it definitely lacked a bit
“People are in to different things”…. Anakin force choking padme 😂
hhahahhaahhaahha
There are very small things that could’ve been done to make this movie a lot better but i honestly really love this movie. It’s so unique and in depth and transitions perfectly into the clone wars. Anakin’s awkward and unapologetic love for padme, padme’s struggle between her responsibilities as a senator and her growing love for anakin, obi wan’s entire mystery that he unravels, the introduction of both dooku and jango fett. It’s honestly a very well done film once you get used to the fact that obi wan is more of an older brother to anakin than a father and also the fact that anakin is an angsty horny teen who has been obsessed with padme for a very long time now and has stupid cringy teenage love with her. It’s very well done.
28:25 “Shmi is the last person who will unconditionally love him”
I never actually thought of it in that exact way but god it hurt when I did
puts things into perspective
But...Luke???
@@ReminiscentIndustries I definitely will say that ended up being the case years later, but at this point in Anakin’s life Shmi is probably the only person in the galaxy he knows will love him regardless of what he does.
@@ReminiscentIndustriesea that’s kind of the point of the Anakin’s whole redemption. Luke is the first person since his mother that unconditionally accepts him for who he is, and because of that Anakin can be redeemed. But in the context of this video, Luke hasn’t happened yet and so his mom is the only one
I think palps wanted anakin to protect padme because he knew it would boost his ego. No matter what happened to padme, palps could decide what to do based on how anakin responded to things. Just a thought
That's my thought as well
If Padme dies, Palpatine gets to manipulate Anakin's anger.
If Padme lives, Palpatine gets to manipulate Anakin's feelings for her
That's kind of how he handled everything. If the separatists win, he's in charge. If the Republic wins, he's in charge. If the separatist treaty goes through at Geonosis, they declare independence and start a war. If the Jedi attack and disrupt the proceeding, they start the war even earlier.
He has a plan, but for the details, he "just rolls with it."
@@qq-wy7zstrue.. and because he can hide his true intentions he's always step ahead.
I like Palpatine...the boss of bosses...King Cool.
"This movie is 21 years old..."
BRUH. I feel old as hell right now.
you are old my guy
@@thegoldman25 I mean, you're not wrong. I just hadn't thought about it in a while.
With regards to Palpatine's overall goal, yeah you said it best with how it seems pretty scattershot and confusing but by the end is written off like "everything went according to plan" lmao. After watching/reading Dune and Game of Thrones which both heavily deal with politics one understands how such authors craft such a good narrative which makes sense and works well on both the screen and in writing.
Compare how Littlefinger is written by George RR Martin to how Palpatine is written by George Lucas. Littlefinger has this overarching plan to gain power but often times roadblocks appear and we see how he adjusts his plan when he needs to. With Palpatine it's just "he is so smart that he predicted every outcome that could've happened".
I think it's another example of George having good ideas but not writing them out well especially with politics and scheming characters. Imagine if Game of Thrones was written by him. It would be a mess
This is a fantastic point. I might mention it in my revenge of the sith video. Thank you!
"Imagine if Game of Thrones was written by him. It would be a mess"
Are we actually sure he didn't write Seasons 7 & 8?
@@ImVeryOriginal um, based on all the evidence...yeah pretty sure.
Oh my God, what a BS point. You're comparing an 8 season long television series with a film trilogy? Does it dawn on you at all how much more time GOT has to work with as opposed to George with the prequels?
And "everything is going as planned" simply translates to Sidious and Dooku's goal of starting a war. A war has begun, er go things are going according to plan.
Its so sad that all these questions are answered in secondary media for star wars so well, but none of that is communicated in the movies. A rewrite of attack of the clones from the complete story in hindsight would improve it so much.
Also, well made video. Earned my sub. Well done sir!
This video is so clueless. When I was watching it I was able to explain away every "problem" purely with examples from the movies.
AOTC was my first star wars movie so i will always have a soft spot in my heart for it
everyones first star wars movie should have a soft spot in their heart
I've always been baffled by Palpatine's plan. But when you spell it out it actually seems more like his plan was to have Anakin and Padme fall in love and every assassination attempt failed intentionally.
Jango subcontracting a kill out to Zam Wessel because he knew she'd make a mess of it and he'd have an excuse to plant some evidence (the dart) to lead the Jedi to Kamino.
I don't honestly think Lucas was thinking that but it's a comforting head-canon.
No, Jango and Zam aren't in on it. The trail of evidence left by Jango isn't intended to lead back to Kamino, but how things play out, Obi-Wan discovers Kamino and gets captured on Geonosis, and Palpatine sees the perfect opportunity to unleash the CIS army, which in turn will start the war.
Let's say one of these steps fails and Obi-Wan doesn't have a trail to follow Jango. Does this mean that the jig is up and Palpatine has no options left? Of course not. There will plenty of more opportunities in the future to start the war.
Also small counterpoint to your video. I believe Obi Wan in the archives to be an important scene as it establishes an arrogance within the Jedi order, similar to Yoda commenting on it during the exposition scene in the temple with Yoda, Obi Wan and Windu. This is an important cornerstone of why the Jedi fall in this trilogy and is a good way of displaying it in my eyes.
That’s a good explanation, I think it could’ve come across better tho. I don’t look at Jocasta any as being arrogant
@@thegoldman25 I can understand the idea not being fully sold to you. However, I have experienced belittling put downs from authority figures like in the scene shown, her performance felt pretty authentic to me. I then feel like a great juxtaposition was created in the children being open minded enough to think of why the planet wouldn’t be in the archives. That tells me that plenty of these children had the potential to be a good force for the galaxy (pun intended) but their mentors let them down through a rigidity and their dogma. Lucas has always spoke of his influences being WW2, Vietnam and the Iraq War and it seems like he could almost see ahead of time a lot of the current generations dismay at something like the Iraq war that was sold as being necessary to them at a young age. Really it always comes down to Lucas’ grand ideas and his struggle to effectively communicate them when it comes to the prequels, I’ve always erred on the side of appreciating intention regardless and do some of the legwork in my brain but I fully appreciate not everything connects properly for everyone watching. Appreciate getting to discuss this with you though, finished the video moments ago and enjoyed everything you had to say like usual. :)
This movie imo was a slog to rewatch up until the battle of geonosis where i liked the battle but didn’t really care about what was going on. I just feel like this movie while having interesting and amazing ideas wasn’t executed well but that’s been said by many others.
Yeah im with you
I find this one forgettable and and the first one boring(except for a few sequences) but Episode 3 is my favorite Star Wars movie, I hope The Gold Man makes a video on it
I don’t even think the battle is interesting. It’s just a mass of cg blobs shooting at each other or a stupid number of Jedi extras waving sticks around
Totally with you about Clone Wars series 'improving' the prequels. I get that people who experience Star Wars as a whole world rather than individual stories within that world can think that way, but even then it's like saying it took 5 seasons of TV to make a couple of movies 'work'.
100%
Yeah media like The Clone Wars and also video games and books should only be supplementary material to where they add onto the main films but NOT to where they essentially serve as a band aides which patch up the flaws of the films. The films gotta stand on their own
I think it’s part of the reason we’ve seen a lot of revisionist history around the prequels in the SW fan base in recent years. They were near universally hated not that long ago, but now people are acting like they’re misunderstood masterpieces. They had some interesting ideas that they failed to execute on, but the show did a better job of it.
Though even CW can be pretty rough. The pilot movie and the first season is basically garbage, and the second season isn’t that much better. So it’s really only the later seasons of CW that brought any good writing out of the prequels
@@thedapperdolphin1590Oh BS. There is no revisionist history that's going on. It's the fact that the kids who the prequels were made for have grown up and can actually defend these films on the internet now.
The prequels didn't need TCW to fix them in any way. If you don't watch TCW, you can still understand the prequels just fine.
The prequels didn't need TCW to fix them at all. If you don't watch TCW, you can still understand the prequels just fine.
I love how you said, "I get people are into different things," while showing Padme getting force choked. I laughed so hard I had to pause the video.
Same! 😂
my thought was always that Palpetine genuinely wanted Obi Wan to be busy protecting Padme so he could influence Anakin uninterrrupted
I may have gone too far in a few places.
It rhymes, its like poetry
YES always a gem when you upload! I cant actually watch it yet cos I have to sleep but commenting to help boost this into the algorithm!
Thank you!
For your point arround 10:30 I think that even if Padmé died during the movie Anakin would still have a lot of pain and started to fall in the dark side, he was in love and that's enought
interesting
Been waiting on this video, love your work man keep it up. Hope you’re having a great day!
This comment made my day better, thank you!
"This mini-vacation for Anakin and Padme allows them to be selfish for once in their lives". Wow, that is an interesting point I never thought of on Padme's part.
A thought has been brewing in my head recently about the contentious point: *Why would Padme reasonably fall for someone who confessed to mass murder of women and children?* There's a deleted scene for the film called Padme's Bedroom, and in that scene, she and Anakin talk about outreach work Padme did when she was younger. I recently looked at that scene, and it dawned on me. As you mentioned, Padme lived her entire life as a politician.
Politicians and monarchs always have a disconnect from the common people because of their status, wealth, etc. At a certain point, Padme can't understand the plight of people considered "uncivilized", which is why she's curious enough to explore Tatooine in Episode I and callously asks Anakin when she meets him if he is a slave. Later, she can't comprehend the lawlessness of systems outside of the Republic's representation and Shmi has to tell her "The Republic doesn't exist out here". We see examples in our society of how many politicians can be tone deaf or insincere about how they try and reach out to their constituents.
Then we get to the Tuskens. For the entire original saga, Tuskens are referred to and presented as subhuman. You always hear the words "animal" and "monsters" associated with them the way colonizers would talk about Indigenous people who don't comprehend that they are a people forced to survive and retaliate for having so much of their ancestral home taken from them (Which is why I love how The Book of Boba Fett humanizes them). Cliegg Lars goes on a whole speech in this film about how vicious and mindless they are. To someone like Padme, it'd be easy to sell this depiction of them. So when Anakin confesses to killing an entire tribe of them, she might not even consider them sentient enough to be humanized, not out of any malicious intent like Anakin, but out of a lack of understanding of them. All she sees is that Anakin killed what most people consider "animals" for killing his mother in blind rage, and Padme tries to comfort his rage as a natural response. "To be angry is to be human".
All this to say/TL;DR: *I think Padme didn't think of the Tuskens as human any more than Anakin did, which is why she excuses it until he kills human children in the next movie.*
Also because Lucas said that because of the line of work Padme is in, she never meant someone verbally honest like Anakin.
Or it’s just poorly written and forced
@@thedapperdolphin1590The dude explains a concise argument in multiple paragraphs to establish his point, and all you have is "or maybe it's just poorly written and forced."
Your argument pales in comparison to the original poster.
@@jamesarnold7253Oh please.
1) The gungans aren't kidnapping and torturing innocent people; they're just unfriendly.
2) Padme isn't a pacifist, she's just against the Military Creation Act because she believes it will pressure and alienate systems into joining the Separatists. Padme clearly isn't a pacifist, considering she takes back her throne by force in TPM and fights in the Battle of Geonosis.
@@jamesarnold7253You realize you can be "sentient" and still be barbaric? Sentience means that you're conscious and have free will. The sand people are never depicted as not being sentient, just barbaric.
Correct me if I’m wrong but I believe the reason Dooku was trying to have Padme killed is because Nute Gunray wanted her to dead and Sideous wanted Padme dead because she was largely against the idea of the Republic having an army which means she would of put a halt to Palpatines plan with the clones
Still confuses me why he would suggest Obi Wan help her then
Palpatine wanting Padme to be guarded by someone was most likely all a ruse to keep up appearances
I struggle to believe that
@@thegoldman25 I don’t know about that. I think Palpatine knew he had to be extremely careful about how he went about his plan. So caring about the senator who is openly opposing his plan for an army would obviously make people think oh yes Palpatine is a great chancellor. As to why he would of specifically chosen Obi Wan and Anakin I have absolutely no clue. Yes down the line it was confirmed Palpatine basically manipulated Anakins entire life and fall to the dark side but at the time of AOTC we had no knowledge of that yet. I do think a big part of Palpatines plan was keeping Obi Wan and Anakin seperated as much as possible and revenge of the sith kinda confirms this when Obi Wan and Anakin are seperated. Anakin basically kept making bad decisions that lead him to the dark side. But again why would we the viewer believe Palpatine has any interest in Anakin at this moment.
No, he doesn't want Padme dead. He wants to create the appearance that her life is in danger so that there will be an excuse to send her to home planet for safety and keep her from voicing opposition to the Military Creation Act in senate hearings.
I love that you put in a sudden and very short sound of an explosion to emphasize that it's more entertaining to have sound in space battles than without it caught me so off guard
I must say that although my heart disagrees with your final statement, you really made some convincing points. Watching those two movies back to back really shows how much more mature and character-focused Attack of the Clones is imo. Great video as always :)
Thank you for watching!
This was my first Star Wars movie, asked my dad to buy it for me when I saw the dvd on display at a gas station. I watched it and the second behind the scenes disk so much as a kid. Definitely a personal classic.
I do have a soft spot for ep2 but it’s overall just so much wasted potential.
when i was 8 this was my favorite movie ever
@@thegoldman25I would watch this and the clone wars series for hours 😂
10:48 I believe this is what we escalation. Palpatine knew Anakin had some sort of feelings for Padme, either through conversation or just because Palpatine just manages to be ten steps ahead. Anyways, the reason he wanted Padme assassinated is to draw attention to her, and the need to protect her- the intention of the assassination attempt is for Padme to survive. I wouldn't be surprised if Jango sent his apprentice to kill her because he knew Zam would be too incompetent and probably get caught.
I absolutely love that You use the best Synthwave tracks of the era.
(and the most underrated ones)
I played this DVD to death. So great to have homegrown NZ talents Temuera, Rena Owen & Daniel Logan in this movie
i did too
Me too! The more I watch these movies the more I learn something new.
Your videos are top tier Gold Man keep it up❤
Thanks, will do!
Long time fan here (30+ yrs) and I tried to rewatch this trilogy with a very open mind and heart. Dear god it is FAR worse now than ever….it is just unbelievably hard to watch
honestly, the only one that saves is revenge of the sith
Just the opposite for me...wasn't that impressed at first and always thought I was missing something....which I was. Star Wars is vast...to much to take in with one viewing. The more I watch and rewatch all the movies the more I learn...I pick up something new each time and it's all starting to fit together. Overall I think each movie is great.
@@user-jh7nc3pv8hwonderful. Still doesn’t make that move any less shit
When the Anakin and Padme section started, I was somewhat perplexed by your response to Count Dooku. Tyrannus, in my opinion, was a huge missed opportunity from the film to clarify exactly why someone would leave the Jedi Order or leave the Republic. There's a scene of him talking with Obi Wan where Kenobi accuses him of being a traitor, to which he responds, "Oh no, my friend. This is a mistake, a terrible mistake. They've gone too far; this is madness." The line begs to be explored more, but Obi Wan moves the conversation back toward the main plot, and with the motion, away from motivation that Dooku was so desperately lacking in this film. Sure, he was working as Sideous's aprentice, however, he also served at the head of the Seperatist Alliance. Learning his outlook on the state of the galaxy, and by proxy, the outlook of the Seperatists, would have rectified many of the issues brought up previously in this video essay. And surely Obi Wan would want to question why the man who trained his master Qui Gon would have betrayed the Order and the Republic to such a degree, especially with both factions on the brink of war. That entire scene with Obi Wan imprisoned instead focuses on a false motivation for Dooku, as he tells Obi Wan that there is a Sith in control of the Republic, and that he and Obi Wan should join forces to uproot the corruption. While this exposition does serve the plot, it could have been done elseware, and the opportunity to humanize the Seperatist cause is passed by.
I know there are a lot of dooku fans out there, but I am not one of them
What you're describing would take up a huge chunk of screentime and I swear, all the critics in the comment section have no concept of the idea of limited screen time and just say "TCW explained the movie better."
I'll admit, the scene in which you're describing wasn't in the movie (it is in the deleted scenes though), but its still not completely necessary. Dooku is well-aware of the corruption in the senate because he informs Obi-Wan of it, and boom, there's your motivation. Dooku wants a less corrupt government.
Great vid! Thank you for having actual original opinions instead of re flavoring every review that has ever been made for the prequels
I appreciate that! Thank you for watching!
I think you forget that characters aren’t omniscient. Other characters might have to tell them things the audience knows. And on more miscellaneous points like when Obi-wan is venting to Mace Windu about his concerns with Anakin, and Mace attempts to reinforce confidence in Obi-wan about the situation. Of course everyone in the audience and scene know Anakin is both arrogant and supposedly the chosen-one, but they’re having a human conversation. Also, there was legitimate concern that the dark side could be clouding the situation on Anakin’s status as said “chose one”, which in fact was doing so. I pretty much argee with the rest of your critiques though. Although I feel certain “holes” in Palpatine’s plot could be explained.
Glad to see you still making videos bro. 🤙🏾
I think when Palpatine said "Everything is going as planned," he was referring to the thousand year-old "Great Sith Plan" to overthrow the republic which had wiggle room concerning the details like Padme.
Best review of Attack of the Clones I’ve even watched! GREAT questions!
Thank you!!!!
Palpatine wasn't trying to get Anakin and Padme to fall in love, he wanted to create an emotional crack in Anakin that he could exploit. By getting Anakin to protect Padme, her death would've caused Anakin to question himself. Palpatine knew Anakin was (at least) good friends with Padme and I suspect he had an insight to Anakins infatuation.
This would clearly lead to great angush and a suitable softening up of Anakin for Palpatines nefarious intentions to manipulate.
The assassination plan of Padme is the funniest thing about this movie.
Nute Gunray wants Padme dead so he asks Palpatine, who orders Dooku, who hires Jango, who hires a shapeshifter, who sends a droid, who sends bugs to kill Padme 😂🤦
21:00 you watched my attack of the clones review! Nice man! I enjoy your vids.
i might've, I'd need to double check
You are truly a gold man. What an amazing content
Thank you so much! And puns are always welcome here :)
I just finished watching the movie again and by the end I was blown away.The ending of attack of the clones mirroring the ending of Empire just had me feeling so emotional.This is a great movie and I love it.
Exactly, pretty solid movie, but fandoms being fandoms can not admit to that. Even with the knowledge of the sequals.
The most likely explanation for Padme falling in love with Anakin based upon the scenes as we see them is also the creepiest - basically that Anakin, overpowered and undercontrolled Force user that he is, is unconsciously exerting mental influence on Padme every moment that he's with her.
probably
Wow... never thought about that explanation. As others habe commented: The realationship was so forced
Dude, they go back 10 years. They're both attractive people with things in common on an eden-like planet which functions as a romantic getaway. I never found their relationship hard to believe.
@@MrZackavelli no girl sound of mind would date a creep like him, that's a huge turn off no matter how hot is he. that's what makes the whole thing weird to watch
i like this explanation a whole lot, sadly it wasn't intended by the creator so it means little.
Some time after I watched the whole saga for the first time I tried to recollect what each film is about. All I had for this one was - The one where Anakin is whining.
Clone Wars made this film meaningful, impactful. The whole Kenobi plotline about clones is way more interesting and engaging now.
lol i love the way you put it
Then you clearly didn’t pay attention. Since I need to explain a film for 12 year olds to you
Palpatine is building the ruckus in the senate from the phantom menace to fabricate a war to twist it into the empire in the OT
@@thegoldman25 Then you clearly didn’t pay attention. Since I need to explain a film for 12 year olds to you
Palpatine is building the ruckus in the senate from the phantom menace to fabricate a war to twist it into the empire in the OT
@@Gooooofey I said "first time", clown, obviously a lot of time has passed since then. And I definitely didn't ask for your stupid explanation.
@@GooooofeyThank you. Keep defending the prequels from nonsense arguments like this one.
Weird that he says the war was built up only in this movie. Dude...Episode 1 was the first moment. The trade federation was the backbone of the separatists, financially.
Not only does this movie have a super cringeworthy love story that may even compete with 50 shades of Grey. It also has the absolute most ridiculous detective story ever!!
“The leader of the opposition to create a military army is under assassination threat! The assassin leaves a trace which takes us to a planet that has been totally deleted from the archive! What is going on at that planet, and why is it so important to hide it? This planet is actually creating a military army, right under our nose??!! The say a Jedi master ordered this army AFTER the time when he actually died! Hmm. The host of this clone army is the assassin we’ve been looking for, and he mentioned a Tyrannus. I follow him and it turns out he works for Dooku! Can Dooku be the one that ordered the army? I mean it would make sense, cause he’d definitely be capable of removing the planet from our archives! Furthermore, he mentioned the Sith Lord we’ve been looking for actually controls the republic! He could be lying, but think of it! Palpatine has been wanting to create an army! And as soon as he got the emergency powers, he said he was gonna create an army, and then he used the one army that was started the creation 10 years back!! I got a bad feeling about.. NAAAHHHH nvm! These clones are 100% trustworthy! I’m also sure Dooku lied! We’ll ‘keep an eye’ and all of that!”
hahahah I wish I said what you said word for word
@@thegoldman25 Hehe! :D I haven’t watched your video yet, since I’m not home atm! But I will later! ;)
@@thegoldman25 Forgot to say! I did watch your video now! Very good job, man ;) And yes, you were also on the same track :D
19:53 Mace’s eyes right after you said this killed me 😂 great video
Phantom Menace is shot on 35mm film and has excellent production design and lots of real sets+location shooting. Attack of the Clones was shot on early digital keeping it stuck permanently at 900p resolution, the entire movie is just actors on sound stages with blue screens 2 feet behind them, it looks like a bad cartoon. An absolute eyesore of a film that is physically painful for me to watch.
I considered talking about that, but there wasn't much to say imo
Literally watched this movie on repeat as a kid attack of the clones will always be a banger to me
I had a concept in mind which Depicts the same obsessive desire Anakin had for Padme, and through the story pursues validation for his feelings - Padme however jilts him and tells him hes blinded by an idea of her, while she deeply cares for him, he isnt truly in love with her and rejects him telling him eventually he will understand. Then, he receives visions of his mother - goes alone and the same fate unravels. Both rejected and Furious he cuts down the tusken raiders. He then wishes to exact his revenge on Padme (nothing too savage) in the form of humiliation or outriggt verbal confrontation. Palapatine witnesses his struggle, intercepts and comforts him and its to Palpatine Anakin reveals what he has done. It ties into the fact Anakin has spoken about His mother to Palpatine. I would have geniunley preffered luke and leahs mother / anakins love to be someone newly introduces and seperate to padme - having her focused purley on being a senator. It would leave a few loose ends but its a start for an alternative idea.
For a start once the narrative involcing his mother is finhshed he returns to couroscant or naboo and perhaps only ventures to Genosis once the Jedi order decide to attack
As much as I don't like the Anakin/Padme romance at ALL and never have, I do appreciate your analysis on the concept of them falling in love given both of their backgrounds especially with Padme. Yeah it's easy to say that "Great idea, poorly executed" but it's true though. This movie is the biggest example for me on that statement with Lucas having a great idea but accidentally stumbles into all of it minus a few aspects here and there most notably the scene of Anakin reuniting with his mother.
I have to admit that your final assessment of which one is better I found somewhat validating because I would always prefer to watch the following two prequels since there's at least something somewhat engaging happening as opposed to "Phantom Menace".
Looking forward to hearing your verdict on 'Revenge of the Sith"!
Thanks for watching!
Subscribed. You nailed it.
Once upon a time I went to a screening of this movie and when the titles words Star Wars came out someone shouted “Whooo” and someone said “Shut up”. In that same screening people were hysterical laughing at Yoda and Dookus stand off. True story.
i was to young to see this movie in theaters, it's on my bucket list to see all the prequels in theaters
Ironically this is the only SW movie I did not see in theater first run. It was the first time I just didn’t care to see a Star Wars movie, and I don’t regret that decision. I do regret seeing Ep 9 at all, I don’t know what I was expecting when Palpy announced his return in Fortnite of all things.
24:43 yes lady in the audience here. Anakin is a total creep who goes too intense too fast. He's controlling and a total simp and I would run away from him with hyper speed.
Hahaha thank you for responding! I'm glad I got at least 1 response to that
To steal an idea I heard from a friend, Palpatines plan wasn’t so much a step by step approach which saw him control every aspect of the situation, rather his genius is in being opportunistic, positioning himself to pounce on mistakes. Just as in chess, he couldn’t know how things were going to work out, but the moves he made put him in a position to “execute order 66”
For Palpatine's plan i can think of a few reasons why it works. Palpatine could have set up for Jango to leave a trail after the assassination attempt to lead the jedi to kamnio who would report the army to the senate thus putting the army in his lap. He also wanted to play into Anakins emtions which is shown he knows well. Setting him off with Padme would force Anakin to play into his emotions
And if Obi-Wan didn't follow the trail back to Kamino, Palpatine+Dooku could have tried again. It's a bit stupid that they stop the investigation when they find the army. But in their defense, they suddenly have a war on their hands and that takes priority.
That’s a huuuuge reach, and not supported by anything we see in the movie. Just lazy writing is all it was.
Lucas has a great vision & lore bur he sucks in writing them which is clearly showcased in prequels.
couldn't agree more
@@thegoldman25 it's good to see someone agreeing wid me on this
I agree that Padme falling in love with Anakin makes little sense. I’m currently reading the Padme novel that leads up to episode 2 and it tries to make that work by Padme pining over Anakin for those 10 years, even going to Tatooine to try and free Shmi but not being able to find her. And the whole time, I’m just thinking, “I don’t buy this at all.”
There's one minor and even kinda campy change to the story that I really think could have drastically improved the plot: add a handful of evil clones that work for Dooku, alongside Jango Fett. This has a number of benefits.
1. (least importantly) *Clones* who *attack* our heroes throughout the movie do more to justify the title than a clone army coming in at the very end to save the day in the background. Plus, both of those things being the "attack of the clones" makes the name a bit more clever.
2. Elite, evil clones as minor antagonists calls back to older EU stories, in which the "clone wars" were usually implied to involve armies of insane clones who fought *against* the Jedi. More importantly, it establishes individual clones as genuinely competent fighters, which helps sell their ability to kill Jedi so effectively in the next movie. It also makes the Republic's decision to use clones at the end of this film even more obviously misguided and disturbing (something I think a lot of clone wars media likes to forget).
3. Clone villains allow the movie to get rid of the shapeshifter character, who isn't utilized well at all. This adds a little bit of extra intrigue when Obi-Wan meets Jango Fett and sees the face of someone he already killed -- or even earlier, if you have more than one clone assassin in the first act.
4. Jango Fett can literally be in multiple places at once, meaning he can keep his role in Obi-Wan's story while also appearing on Naboo to harass Anakin & Padme, adding necessary tension and stakes to their supposedly dangerous mission.
5. Exposing Anakin to Jango + the clones gives him an opportunity to learn some (but not all) of the information about the secret army, rather than Obi-Wan finding out everything and then bizarrely not acting on any of it. This way, only the audience gets all the pieces to figure out what's happened, while the Jedi are left plausibly in the dark.
6. You might think it's even more suspicious for the separatists to have a team of clones on their side -- and you wouldn't be wrong -- but there's a simple fix that also further tightens up the plot: make the Kaminoans more greedy. Instead of being loyal to the Republic for no reason, and instead of having the clone army already paid for in full, have them cynically sell clones off to the highest bidder. This not only justifies Dooku getting his hands on some, and complicates anyone's ability to know the loyalties of the real Jango Fett, but also adds an urgency to the Republic's decision to purchase and use the army -- if they don't, the other side will. Even with the Jedi harboring some unsubstantiated doubts, would anyone really take the chance on waiting things out?
Damn those are some pretty good ideas
Great review
I haven't finished the video yet, but thank you for talking about Palpatine's plan. I keep seeing nonsense criticisms about how the two awkward teenagers have awkward dialogue while the fact that the movie refuses to explain why Jango Fett is acting so weird is ignored.
I propose a way this movie could have fixed things massively. After Obi-Wan leaves Jango's room on Kamino, have him contact Darth Sidious and give a confirmation that "Jedi Obi-Wan has arrived." Furthermore in the spaceship chase, you can have dialogue between Boba and Jango about the tracker, making sure it has stuck to the hull and that Obi-Wan is still following. Of course the space fight would have to be modified so Jango is holding back, only trying to give Obi-Wan the impression that he has successfully outwitted the bounty hunter.
This would clue in the audience that Obi-Wan's discovery of the clone army, the order placed under the name of a Jedi, the Jedi archives being tampered with, would all be a part of Palpatine's plan to disassociate himself from the clones and trick the Jedi order into wasting time investigating their own members. Finally Obi-Wan would discover the separatist droid army, giving a great reason to put that convenient clone army to use. After all, how else are they supposed to fight the separatists? No time to create an army from scratch. No matter how suspicious their origin, the clones would be the only choice.
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I have watched further and I understand your hatred of the Anakin and Padme scenes, but I disagree with your diagnosis that the scenes are bad despite making sense. They are bad because they DON'T make sense. You said it yourself: you don't buy that Padme would fall in love with Anakin. Neither do I. It is illogical writing. While Anakin's awkward dialogue is justifiable as just being how he talks, it does not explain why Padme likes him.
I mostly disagree with the idea that film is subjective. I don't think people disagree because they are fundamentally different. I think it is because different people's experiences will allow them to notice different things. I believe that everybody dislikes illogical writing. But humans, flawed as we are, will never notice or understand everything.
When I first watched these scenes a few days ago, I was aware of the "Anakin's dialogue makes sense" defense. Thus I enjoyed (or at least tolerated) the scenes as partially comedic and partially romantic. But there is an important reason I didn't notice the poor chemistry. I am an incredibly anti-romantic person. Romance is something I have no experience in, so when a movie tells me that two people find each other attractive, I don't bother trying to figure out why and just accept it. Now having had their poor romance pointed out to me, I am sure I will find it much easier to notice on my next viewing.
While this may seem depressing - a skill with the "benefit" of making it impossible to enjoy movies - it can also be beneficial. Experience might allow you to notice when filmmakers make mistakes, but it also allows you to notice when details are correct. Taking a logic course made me incapable of enjoying bad detective stories, but it helped me appreciate the good ones to a greater degree than I could have previously imagined. I would never have come to love the mind of Sherlock Holmes or the wit of Columbo without the tools to understand them. Now that I have them, I wouldn't trade them away for anything. The joy of being able to appreciate one Sherlock Holmes mystery in full is greater than every badly written mystery combined.
I really do enjoy the movie, my biggest gripe is act 2 should be the start of the movie
Interesting idea, not sure I agree
It's amazing to me how few people understand the basic plot of this movie. Nute Gunray was trying to assassinate Padme because of what happened in episode 1, it was on that condition that the Trade Federation would join the Separatists. Palpatine and Dooku want Padme out of the way because she is the leading voice of the pacifist movement resisting the creation of an army for the Republic, and because Padme is someone that Anakin is emotionally attached to. Two birds with one stone. Yes, there's a lot wrong with this movie. The Kamino saberdart deus ex machina is particularly egregious, but a lot of peoples' issues with the movie stem from not even understanding what's happening.
Some notes about your plot critique: while making assumptions about Palpatine’s plan keep in mind that he is a Sith Lord, an extraordinarily powerful force wielder, he can sense emotions sharply and could probably sense the emotions anakin is going through regarding padme, anakin says “I’ve been thinking about her everyday for the last ten years” on the elevator, and given Sheevs ability he could feel this and put two and two together. Furthermore he is able to obfuscate his plans through his manipulation of the force, Yoda himself says “the dark side clouds everything.” Making obvious connections much harder to see.
If one part of each plan didn’t work, other contingencies were probably in place, I can’t imagine he wouldn’t have a few fail safes, including using other methods to lure the Jedi into finding dooku and the separatists on Geonosis or finding Kamino or triggering Anakins emotions (my head canon is that he ordered anakin’s mother to be kidnapped/killed). Regarding Kamino, On paper it wasn’t sheev himself who requested the order it was technically Sifo-Dyas. Having multiple layers of protection from his plans provides plausible deniability. This allows Palestine to continue to use his greatest asset, the ability to play coy.
This isn’t a defense of the deus ex machina nature of the plot though, Everything does seem to come together too easily.
There’s a fan theory that Anakin is so strong in the force and wants Padme so badly that he’s accidentally mind tricking her into falling in love with him. It’s nothing more than head cannon but I like it… and it makes her falling for him more believable. 21:44
that's borderline rape
@@thegoldman25amn never thought of it like that 😬 also that makes the scene when Padme asks Anakin to stop looking at her lustfully because it makes her uncomfortable and Anakin says “sorry malady” all creepy so much worse…
I like that as you said "I get that people are into different things" the image is Anakin force choking Padme. Nice touch
As a lady in the audience, I don’t think I would’ve fallen in love with Anakin. Don’t get me wrong, I do love him and Hayden Christenson is most definitely attractive, but Anakin is a whiny little punk and as you said, he’s often rude to Padmè. I love Anakin but if I was Padmè? I don’t think I would’ve liked him romantically.
This movie is my favorite out of the prequels tho and I will swoon over their romance every time (I’m delusional) but realistically, I doubt Padmè would’ve fallen in love with Anakin.
I always love your takes, and I do agree with the “why” of Padmè falling in love with Anakin. Their potential was so good and if Anakin had some small personality changes, I would believe it a bit more. I do love their romance though and I can look past it because I’m a hopeless romantic 😂
I appreciate you sharing your thoughts, thanks for watching!
Ok SO - A few things - Palpatine doesn't have just 1 plan. He has plans beyond plans, he has backup plans and he adapts as he goes depending on events that happen, so when he says "Everything is going as planned" he only means that the end result is what he wanted. He didn't necessarily need EXACTLY these things to have happened in order for his plans to work.
Also Palpatine is strong enough in the force to see the future, it is said that he has forseen things multiple times in the sage, so he would be using this with his plans to manipulate events in such a way that it lines up with his plans - its not that convoluted its just hidden behind Palpatine
One thing I noticed about Qui Gon is how rebellious he was against the strictness of the Jedi. He would take initiative and proceed with riske plans, relying on the force to accomplish the impossible (his faith in Anakin winning the podrace). He ignored the senates and jedi order, actively going against Yoda's refusal to train Anakin. He was a jedi who only stayed true to the will of the force and was seemingly immune to the republic's politics.
Obi Wan was unfortunately a boy scout to the republic and reinforced their strictness onto Anakin, who grew resentful and this is what led him towards the dark side.
It is implied Qui Gon had lived an experienced life, knowing how the rest of the galaxy functions, especially the rough, outer rim parts of the universe (Tattooine specifically). Much like Luke Skywalker, it seems that in order to become a true jedi, one must know the realities of all walks of life to truly overcome all that is hate and confusion to truly rise above it.
Episodes 2-3 are all about how the Jedi failed Anakin and how Palpatine saw to take over Qui Gon's surrogate father role as an successful attempt to manipulate Anakin.
Episode 1 is my second favourite prequel but 2 is equally important at showing Obi (and the republics) failure.
Episode 3 is when Palpatine strikes! (My favourite of the prequel trilogy)
My favourite prequel. Something about the overall atmosphere of it, and visually it’s gorgeous. Plus, and yes, this is a shallow point, but it gave rise to the best toys!
Visually gorgeous? with respect it's mostly blue screen cg. Might be a case of different taste but I like things being practical in camera plus it being filmed on digital also hurts it is. Film stock is always superior, it's why the og still stands up today.
@@musayibghani3986the colour palette 👌 Just feels cohesive. I’m not a fan of the CGI-and always found the clone troopers cartoony
In my twilight years (53) it's so clear this whole SW thing was really just 2 good movies from almost 50 years ago 😅 Also, great job on this video, thank you 🤙 (Ill accept half of Jedi being good)
Thank you for watching!
This is so true.
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Palpatine had no "plan". In the beginning of Phantom Menace - he wanted Nut Gunray to force Amidala to sign annexation treatment. Jedi sent by Velorum intervened in this, and escorted her to Corusant. He was actually surprised (as it was not in his plans, as evident by Darth Maul's attempt to stop them from leaving Tatooine) but quickly adapted to the situation. So he reenacted plan to allow Nabu to fight away from occupation. But the goal here was mainly to create bad PR for Velorum and then make vote of no confidence, and replace him.
He achieved goal of becoming chancellor by the end of the film.
Second film - he also had no "plan". He had only general goals. Here - to create full scale military conflict, thus allow for additional authorizational powers to be passed for himself. Thus move clone army into play. So that war can start, that would force Jedi on frontlines. Jeonosis battle alone wiped out two thirds of Jedi roster. Thanks to Dooku being a brilliant strategist and luring Jedi in a trap that almost worked.
He achieved goal of starting the war by the end of the film.
Third film - his grand goal is also achieved as a goal of this movie.
He wanted for the war to disperse Jedi across galaxy, and make them dug into local conflicts, thus making them ineffective and non-observant. Then the order 66 would eliminate them all one by one.
Anakin here is just a secondary bonus objective. He is used merely as a tool to efficiently eliminate so many Jedi. Specifically Mace Windu who posed an absolute threat as the most powerful Jedi master, who had all chances of defeating him in direct combat.
He achieved goal of eliminating Jedi by the end of the film.
Your attack of the clones review is improvement over your phantom menace review I appreciated that you tried to understand and see why people liked the prequels even if you yourself don’t and if online critics should do that
I appreciate that. I think more wont be fond that review because I genuinely find almost nothing redeemable about that movie, while there is stuff I like in AOTC
@@thegoldman25 I respect and appreciate your opinion order than the fact I disagree with you that there is almost nothing redeemable about the phantom menace but props to you for trying to respect peoples like prequels
Attack Of The Clones is slightly better than The Phantom Menace because it has more action scenes, more depth, more complexity, and is just overall a really fun movie to watch! I love it! Revenge Of The Sith is definitely the best Star Wars movie of all time, but, Attack Of The Clones is still almost as good. Also, I think Anakin and Padme had good chemistry and a really good and compelling tragic love for one another.
Honestly the main reason I personally prefer TPM to AOTC is because I think it looks better. I like the set locations it was shot on more, and it was the last prequel to be shot on film rather than entirely on digital, which just gives it more of that classic retro feeling to me. I think the stories are both equally flawed in different ways, so for me it boils down to the non-story production aspects of the movies. But I really enjoyed your analysis of the character development in AOTC and lack thereof in TPM, thought it was very insightful even if I disagreed with some bits, so cool video!
been waiting for this...
enjoy!
The deleted scenes are the most important parts of the political aspect of the plot. They shine an unfavorable light on the Chancellor, who is supposed to be the main antagonist.
I should rewatch them, it may make the movie more interesting
@@thegoldman25 there are a lot of scenes of Anakin and Padmé too though lol
Attack of the clones fan might be biased because of the clones. Like me. I love them clones.
I love the clones too
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Plot is: "find out who is behind an assasination attempt on Padme".
Assassination attempt that was depicted in the very first scene of the film. So plot started with first scene of the film - and it was a relevant thing thorough the whole movie.
Obi Wan investigated the origin of dart - this led him to Kamino - he met Django - tracked him to Jeonosis - figured out the mastermind for the assassination, but was caught and the subsequent fights are the outcome of confrontation between Jedi and separatist forces.
Do you even pay attention to the film?
My interpretation of the Palpatine plan situation is that he was aware Anakin had a crush on Padime, so he requested Dooku to orchestrate failed assassination attempts in order to excuse selecting Anakin and Obi-wan as her bodyguards, he was also pretty confident that one bounty Hunter whose name i forgot abt woudnt be able to kill her under the jedi protection, so he....... asked Jango to deliver that dart on porpoise???? so- so Obi would start digging up this rabbit hole Palpatine created himself and..... was pretty confident Obi was able to figure it out, and- and also- and this also would make Anakin and Padime alone on their own while Obi unfolds that mystery about the missing planet and falls on his trap on geonosis and gets captured so the Jedi come, and the army come movie done
I feel like you underplay the Jedi library scene a little by saying it wasn't needed. The way I interpret it isn't just as a way to show that "oh look, Kamino has been deleted I wonder why", it's also an important part showing just how arrogant the Jedi Order had become. The comments about "if it doesnt exist in our archive it doesn't exist" is a good sign of just how overconfident the Jedi has become that they're on top of everything. Blinded by their own certainty, which helps explain why a Sith would be able to rise to power right under their nose
The level of positivity in this view is a breath of fresh air in the Star Wars Community
About the plot - let's not forget about the "magic" element.
Palpatine is the ultimate sociopath. He can play roles exceptionally, he can manipulate people well just by talking to them - and he has no feelings in a way that "normal" people feel.
All he has is an endless yearning to control others. Control more and more, and punish and destroy everyone who resist. In the most intelligent, vengeful way.
Now imagine this man having the strongest psychic power in the Universe. He is not just a genius, he can also sense the future, read minds, manipulate minds, and more.
He could have planned the takeover of the Republic all his life. He had a strong, very literal vision, and foreseen the steps he needs to make to make it true. He plays the Jedi order, the Senate, the Separatists, Anakin, basically everyone like a fiddle. And he enjoys it immersely.
Was he planning to make Anakin his #1 subject? Maybe. Could he do it? Most probably. Was it believable how he did it? Not at all. That scene when he kneels down... that didn't make any sense from any perspective. For me, that is the most unforgivable scene in the whole prequel.
How to Fix Star Wars: Attack of the Clones
Padme Addresses the Senate ( Deleted Scene )
Jedi Temple Analysis Room ( Deleted Scene )
The Lost Twenty ( Deleted Scene )
Obi-Wan and Mace - Jedi Landing Platform ( Deleted Scene )
Extended Arrival on Naboo ( Deleted Scene )
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Dooku Interrogates Padme ( Deleted Scene )
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Music that should've been added in the film
Tales of the Jedi - Count Dooku Theme
Tales of the Jedi - Dooku's Fall Theme
Scenes that should've been removed in the film
Elevator scene, Jar Jar Binks scenes, Dexter's Diner scene, Battle Droids, bad dialogue scenes, unnecessary scenes, ending scene with Anakin and Padme getting married.
Enemies - Commando Droids, Droidekas, Super Battle Droids
LEGO Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga video game's version of Attack of the Clones is so much better than the actual movie, its maybe because of the dialogue and how fast the pacing is, only issues are Dexter's Diner, Jar Jar Binks, and Anakin and Padme getting married, those three things should've been removed.
I do love the lego games
@@thegoldman25 They're good, even though I'm not a fan or obsessed with SW anymore. Also, the link of a scene below from the video game, Bounty Hunter should've been included in the movie.
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well done! loved this analysis
"people like different things"
*Cuts to Padme being choked* 😂 nice editing there goldman 👏
I don’t care, I love the prequels. I grew up with them as I was born in ‘99. These movies are Star Wars to me. As a kid, I watched TPM and ROTS a lot but didn’t have AOTC as a dvd. So anytime I saw a poster or picture of this movie, I thought it was so epic. I saw it once at my Aunt’s house and I was in love with the arena fight and Jango and Mace and clone troopers. Everything felt so exciting and magical. I see the flaws now but I will always love all of the prequels. ROTS is genuinely my favorite Star Wars movie ever, but TPM and AOTC have a very special place in my heart.
i dont care that you dont care
I’ve always enjoyed TCW because of the clones and my love for SW. it took a while for me to understand why TCW and the rest of the Prequels got hate for their mistakes, but that’s not reason enough for me to stop enjoying them. I just have more depth and breadth to my understanding and enjoyment of SW. You shouldn’t stop enjoying something just because you feel too old, or someone says it’s bad. It’s your enjoyment, so enjoy it.
Obi Wan: But why would Master Sifo Dyas request a clone army?
Yoda: Like your young Padawan, Master Dyas had premonitions (dreams) of a war in which the republic needed an army maybe to protect the Jedi Order from an unknown threat. it drove him mad (or something)
If you add that scene, or a better one like it, then add something that implies that Palpatine is currently manipulating Anakins dreams, then it both explains why Sifo wanted an army, and it foreshadows how Anakins dreams will cause him to unwittingly bring about his demise like how sifos dream of a destroyed order would bring about the orders destruction. This helps Palpatines plan seem more thought out.
idk if the EU explains the Sifo Dyas part.