The Best E-Ink Devices in 2023! Remarkable, Kindle, Boox, Supernote? Which one is right for you?
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00:00 Intro
00:37 The Best in 2023: Writing & Notetaking
04:22 The Best in 2023: Document Reading & Markup
08:12 The Best in 2023: Study & Research
12:54 The Best in 2023: Portable eReader
14:54 The Best in 2023: Portable eNotetaker
18:24 The Best in 2023: All-Rounder
22:23 The Best in 2023: Special Mention
24:16 Conclusion
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Thank you Voja, always a pleasure to watch for me as well. I just bought a Boox Max Lumi second hand thanks to your advice... I got tired of waiting for a Supernote A4x2!
I have been following Voja for 2 years now, I will do his tutorials and purchase the MDO finally!
Dear Voja,
I do have to confess: As much as I like the actual content of your videos and the way you deliver all this information concisely, these are also very entertaining because every once in a while a dry remark or some hidden joke pops up, and the production quality (esp. the sound) is top notch.
Thank you!
Thank you very much :)
Your review is on point and fabulous!
The best video I've seen on the subject so far. Bravo 👏🏻👍🏻 and many thanks. 🙏
Great detail in your review, thank you!
Incredible content, keep it up bro!
I bought the Boox Tab Ultra last week. The device is marketed as a Tablet PC, though it performs more like a tablet, tbough with a slightly slower speed, typical of e-readers today. I am a student and I use it for watching study lectures, reading anf taking pdfs. The different refresh rates really gave me good experience of performing different tasks on the device. There are some cons, such as its battery doesn't last too long, yet it doesn't drain quickly too. I recommend this product for students. 🎉🎉
I found Boox's battery a total garbage. It died after 3 years, so rather disappointing, especially considering its price. I contacted them and hope that the problem will be sorted.
Hey Voja. Again, really enjoyed this roundup. I'm curious: do you or have you used an iPad Pro with pencil much in the past? Have you tried it more recently with some of the paperlike screen covers you can get? While I've been pulled into the eInk world (SN A5X and the other suspects... and I'm also curious how the A6X2 and A5X2 pan out... not to mention A4X... and I still have a Boox TUPC, but leaning toward returning it), I've also recently re-discovered the joy of writing/illustrating on my iPad Pro--especially with the new Astropad Rock Paper Pencil screen cover and pencil tip combo. I'd be curious to see you take a look at the latest ipad options like this... unless of course you've sworn off iPads.
Your videos are always the gold standard for comprehensive e-ink reviews and information.
My use case is very simple. I need to be able to use Google Workspace apps outdoors in the bright sunlight. I need internet connectivity because I want my documents to sync in real time. I need portability and good battery life. The original Boox Note Air has met my needs quite well. I tether it to my 5G smartphone for internet access (my local public WiFi is slow and unreliable). I create and do most of my writing on my laptop at home and take the Note Air outdoors where I need it.
I am quite tempted by the color versions of e-ink devices. However, I will be a fence sitter for these until price and battery life improve. I think my Note Air will have to chug on for a few more years.
Thank you for your thoughtful review, appreciated your breakdown of categories which is spot on and does help in deciding which device meets your needs. In respect of mobiscribe wave thought your comments were correct, always thought that two other positives for this device i.e it being water proof and having a front light. Which if you were working out doors on a regular basis a definite plus, but not features that seem to be mentioned much. Just wondering if I was missing something in comparison to other devices?
I have just discovered this channel and I appreciate the in-depth discussions. I have used e-readers for many years, mainly for reading research and scientific PDFs. With a larger reader you can just about get away without text reflow but for a smaller one it's essential. The Kobo H20 is a great little reader but the PDF reading is pretty awful, like most small e-readers. So I installed Koreader and that gives great reflow and reading, although very primitive in other ways. My Kobo is finally dying (battery I suspect) and things have moved on a lot since then. Now there is colour which is very useful for research documents, and note taking/markup/export has become sophisticated. My question is: which modern e-readers have the best native PDF reflow i.e. without having to install Koreader? If there is a video on this then it would be great to see a link. Thanks.
Hi Voja
Thk you very much. Usefull
Great video! It is nice to read that my devices rank all in the top 3. I am very pleased with my boox max lumi (yes I have it!). For e-reading the boox page, top! For writing the remarkable 2! I was waiting if you would say someting about the boox palma, is that a special category?
Great Video Voja! I really appreciate the comprehensive details and the subjective view points. I like that you have evaluated each device for various use cases. Your content, along with Brandon and Kit’s, has helped me apply this technology to multiple use cases in my career and personal life and I feel better for it. I am now aware of how I was consuming so much and contributing to e-waste and harming the environment as well. I now use my technology more intentionally and I am looking at what I purchase in a more sustainable way. I now want my use of technology to benefit the environment not just to be purely for my enjoyment. Thank you for your effort, your time, your data, and your professional discernment. I can’t wait for your next installment of content. See you in the Cyberverse! P.S. We need more ways to support you. I can only buy the MDO so many times!
Thanks for your reviews, for very useful videos, thanks a lot.
Thank you for watching and for the kindness :)
Kudos bro on a Great video.. thanks for adding document section which is what i was precisely looking for..Now that Nova air 3 is available, can it be No 1 for Document reading and markup ??
Voja,
I have been researching an E- Writer recently and came across your channel, very informative... As I continue researching I am being drawn toi the reMarkable II product. The initial question I have is, is the Desktop top APP compatible win Win 11 and do I need to purchase a subscription of any type in order to transfer documents to the Desktop APP?
Curious if maybe the Boox Palma had not come out yet when you made your roundup? This is the first video of yours I've seen so I'm wondering if it just didn't pass muster or if maybe it was not available to you? Seems really good for portability given the tiny size.
I am looking to get my daughter an e-ink note taking device. She is a clinical psychologist so it will be used mostly for note-taking. You mentioned at the end a special mention for the paper like feel for a device. Which other of the top choices do you think gives you that similar quality? Also, she is left handed so if there is one that you think stands out for that experience please let me know. Really liked your video, just subscribed to it.
Do you have any comparisons to offer between the Super note and the Fujitsu Quaderno? Also, the supernote let's you export an edited document, correct? Thank you very much!
I still kept my nova air 1 and was excited if still anyone uses it. And you madenmy day 😁 I was considering experimenting on applying the supernote feelwrite screen protector on it as I like supernote ceramic nib, but still don't wanna give up my nova air yet 😎
Don't! I sold mine and regretted it. As long as it's doing the job, keep it, and the update will be even more worthwhile, and in the meantime, you get to use an excellent device, like the Nova Air 1 is :)
Very useful video! Thanks! I'm a student, and now that the A5X2 has been announced to be released in June... should I wait for it or just get an Air3C?
Love this line up! For portable note taking device, what other boox product would you recommend? it seems nova air 1 is not available anymore 😢. Looking for Boox bc I need play store access.
I bought the Tab Mini C. So far it's portable for my needs. I sketch and draw and it's been easy holding it one handed while I draw on it. It was a good deal because it's on sale on their site and on their Amazon store front page. I am curious about the Supernote A6 X2 so I may order that as well at some point. :)
This is really great, thanks! Funny, I was looking to see what would be the best device to update my current Max Lumi 1 but it sounds like I should stick with it for the time being 🙂
It's an excellent device and no need to switch away from it yet ;)
Also, its second hand value wont drop while voya keeps ranking it so high! Not that I disagree...
I have one, and a brand new na3c. I can testify the new device makes a lot of sense... but the ml is still there! No match for pdf readability.
What i disagree is ranking those as do it all devices. To me right now, it is Na3c's crown, ML beeing king of the 13 inch niche.
Thank you for the review! well done... I am researching for a replacement for my Kindle DX which I absolutely loved until the batter died.
I am looking for a LARGE e-reader even though my eyes are still quite good... I find single handed reading unwieldy and annoying when reading in waiting rooms or airports.
Right Now I am leaning toward the Tab Ultra C
I like old color nooks for reading as I am a technical person and many technical books and papers use color for data display. I recently purchased the Boox Note 3 C as it supports a great number of formats, can install Nook, Kobo and Kindle apps from the Google Play store and has color. I am also looking forward to the note taking and drawing capabilities for work.
hi Voya,
I found this type of technology, E-Ink, interesting. I think that an important topic would be the evolution of each brand in order to see where there is a turning point that makes the tablet have an analysis.
I would also like to know if Remarkable 3 will be released in 2024. I ask because they have all evolved in a year but they are stagnant, they have only generated software changes but not hardware, which will lead them to be differentiators because in design they are already superiors, you just need to listen to the comments that you test consumer specialists make.
It would be interesting a category/comparison of drive cloud services integrations
Hi Voja.
Do you think the battery life on TUC Pro or NA3C could be improved via some software updates? Maybe in implementing option to turn off BSR or do levels of usage of that technology and overall improvement of power efficiency?
That is something that would make perfect sense, for example, a future update that makes it so that the HD refresh mode bypasses the BSR gpu completely. However, this is such an obvious thing, that I fear that the case may be that the way they implemented the BSR GPU is basically non-bypassable, otherwise, surely they would have done it by now. So yeah, I 'd hope that it is possible, but the fact that we're not seeing it happen for a year now makes me think that it might be the latter case.
Thank you very much Voja. I've watched so many of your videos over the years and have even worked at an e paper startup. This video answered the question I needed around which reader to get for going through academic textbook pdfs and to take more effective meeting notes. Now the questions is whether I get the note air 3 or the air 3c . . .
Is the air 3 going to have insaneley good battery life comparatively because it's not doing color, so won't need so much light, and won't have to change the state of so many capsules?
And, will the screen be much, much clearer, because it's only 227 PPI, is it going to be less definition than the c?
I don't expect you to see the comment, but oh man would I appreciate a video on this, or even a comment in response.
Either way, I'm such a big fan and am so grateful for your thorough, careful, considered, methodical approach to this whole industry. You've made it so much easier for me to navigate. Thank you.
Thank you for watching and for the support :)
You should see a very similar battery life like on the NA2 and NA2+ because the NA3C doesn't have BSR tech in it, meaning excellent battery life, but no BSR ghosting clean-up goodness and smoothness. Also, NA3C has 300 PPI in B&W content, and yes, when comparing a 300 to a 227 PPI display, side by side, you will notice a difference, but the NA3C is monochromatic, which means a lot better brightness and contrast, because of brighter brights on the device.
I haven't had the chance to try it yet, but on paper it seems like the modernized version of the NA2+, and that was and still is an excellent device in it's own right.
I see that you are a musician. Do you have a recommendation for an e-ink tablet for reading sheet music? I use an iPad Pro (12.9) now but am intrigued with e-ink.
I would like to see also a catogory for "drawing".
One more question: why you considered the Mobiscribe Wave BW and not the colour version?
Because the Wave is a good device pretty much for writing, as a portable notepad, and color is really not necessary for such use. In that sense, the inherent negatives of the Kaleido 3 panels (darkness of the "white", fuzziness of the color matrix, and the need for stronger front light use) are completely unjustified, and it's more expensive. So, you'd be basically getting an inferior product for more money.
You are the best 👌👌👌
Recommendation for a wife and mom? My uses will be home management (chore lists, menus, lists, etc.), use docs I created in PC, calendar, planning, and I would like color. (Vivid color preferred.) Think I would like 10.3 or bigger and portable.w Thought I wanted R2, then thought Supernote and now Boox NA3C. Then looked at cost and wonder if ipad is better. Anyone have suggestions?
Hi
I love this video. Im not sure if you can give me a suggestion. I am a chef that always have a problem with taking note or new recipe in a paper and lost them all the time.
I have been looking for something like these devices to help me organize my note or update new recipes
Any suggestions that will suit my life style that want to keep all recipes I wrote on cloud and also can take note from youtube recipe or recipe from the internet. Also I carry my notebook every where even for taking notes or checking inventory list.
I would be really appreciate your help if you can suggest me which device I should get that not too big and can keep my new recipes safe
I've just bought the Huawei papermate for the recording capabilities. I chose that over the Lenovo due to a special offer £100 off and the reviews were not as negative as Lenovo.
I considered the box note 3 c but didn't see the extra £200ish would really be worth it when I only want to record and note take.
Dear Voja, thank you for the video, very informative. I have a question hovewer😅. I noticed a telecaster and 2 basses hanging on the wall behind you. I suppose those are yours and you play them. So the question is: have you sight read with an e-ink devise? How was your experience? Which device would you recommend for a musician (me) whose main task with a device will be sight reading and note taking. Of course it would be perfect to have a capability for notating music, but on the other hand I don’t want to spend a fortune on that device, so I could probably go without that option. Also what screen diameter would you recommend? Is 10.3 enough for reading sheet music or is it better to look towards 13 inch? Reading your opinion would be very valuable. I’d be thankful for your reply. Have a great day)
Great reviews of the various categories. Thank-you. One day, I'd really like to get hold of a fully functioning e-ink laptop or tablet that could sync with a PC or Mac. For me, reduced eye strain is paramount , so I'd dearly love to spend the vast majority of my time looking at an e-ink display, but with the ability to dovetail to a PC or Mac for those (fairly rare) occasions when I need to engage with other people.
you can achieve this with syncthing i believe
Thank you for making your video so easy for non-technical people like me to understand. I am watching this in 2024, but I have still got valuable content from your video. Much obliged 😊
Hello, a tip for a reader of applications like scribd, slideshare, audiobooks. I think I need a tablet to be able to download applications, but I want to take care of my eyesight. Which one would you recommend?
I've been between the Boox Page or Kobo Sage / Libra 2.. and after bingeing your videos, I think I'm going to go with the Boox Page
Hello! Can you upload files from outside the Kindle (ePub, txt, word docs)? I don't want from example to buy a book from Amazon, I already have it on my laptop...can I export it on Kindle Scribe?
Thanks for your reviews, truly the best ones on eink devices!. I have a question for you that would be awesome if you could talk about it (You may talk about this topic in the past, but I'm not able to find where) that is the privacy protection of the notes that we take on Boox devices. I have the Note Air 1, and it is mandatory to accept sharing the notes with their cloud, which to be honest I'm not very confortable about it. Do you know if there is any other option of similar Android tablet that does not gather note data?.
Many thanks!
Well obviously, if you are going to synchronize your notebooks to the Boox Cloud server and use their Push2Boox services, you have to let them transfer your notes to their server, as that is what you are using? I don't understand what are you confused about? Cloud storage is a fancy word for storage servers, nothing more.
You can always choose to not use any kind of clue synchronization or Google Drive, or Dropbox, or One Drive...
Would you compare the Huawei Matepad Paper note taking and recording with the Boox note taking and recording capabilities please? Can students record a class and take notes with each in the same way? Kit Bets Masters has said the Boox can record but no one really compares. Thanks so much for all your reviews!!!
Voja! Why would you choose the Max Lumi 1 over the Tab X, and why do you say the Max Lumi 2 sucks compared to the Max Lumi 1.
Thank you, Voja! I so appreciate your work and attention to detail.
I do have a use case that would really appreciate your attention. You say “notetaking” but I’m not sure what specific features that includes. I would like to use an e-ink device as a Knowledge Management System (KMS). Not by using an app such as Obsidian or Notion, but using the device itself and the software features they have built in. (I love the idea of Obsidian, but 9 times out of 10, when I want to enter information, I’m in a situation where I can write, but not type.)
The specific features I would want included:
1. Good handwriting recognition/conversion
2. create links between files,
3. tags
4. the ability to search the entire device by for multiple things ie. 3 tags, and 2 words used together but not as an exact phrase.
5. Ability to input searchable, editable text from another device - if I’m reading an article online and taking notes on a computer, I would like to be able to transfer notes and quotes into the device without having to retype/write it all.
6. the ability to access my notes from a computer and export something with working links that I could send to a friend without a similar device.
7. Bonus feature - the ability to convert some handwriting to text but leave some elements such as diagrams/drawings untouched.
These features are incredibly important to whether the device can truly function as a KMS and I would really appreciate it if you could spend some time showing them in detail. I’ve found a lot of things work as generalizations, but the things I would assume work as an Android user suddenly aren’t possible on e-ink devices. (Such as the ability to paste text from an email into a note) I really would like to move to e-ink but… it’s hard to find the answers I need.
I’m leaning heavily toward Supernote, but, as they continually change their software, it is very difficult to get a picture of the current capabilities and shortcomings. I am unsure if (4) the search can include multiple parameters such as in the example above. I am also unsure (5) if I would be able to add any text from another device into a useable, editable, taggable… section of the device without re-writing everything? And I really can’t figure out whether it is capable of the (7) bonus feature listed. Do any other devices fit this user profile?
I want to replace all of my paper notebooks in a way that makes their information findable and usable. Overall, I don’t really care if the final product is in handwriting or text; I just need to input it via handwriting.
Thank you so much again for all that you do, Voja! Your videos are a huge reason why I want to make the switch to e-ink. I hope you have an amazing holiday season!
That is EXACTLY what I am looking for! So please keep us updated in case you found your desired device
Oh the paradox of choice, its paralyzing. Here's an idea for a video- if one were a student in college, (maybe a fine arts major, and another a civil engineering major) and could pick two E readers per person, (given the wide selection of used and cheaper options now). Which 2 would pair up well together instead of relying on just one E reader? Longer battery life being the only requirement
Love your work, Voja
Thank you very much!
Which device will you recommend for a PhD student? I am about to start my PhD and I will be reading a lot of articles and books. I need to be able to highlight and take notes. Ideally, ( not sure if this is possible) I would like to be able to compare articles.
Hello Voja, thank you for a v timely review.
Two surprises at end ref X and the special mention - nice!
Here is a suggestion for a future vid - the issues involved in creating apps specifically for eink devices... what were your experiences? v different issues for android platform vs supernote vs remarkable.
Do you have a recommendation for an android ereader with occasional notes?
I’m new to e-ink tablets, and after visiting boox website Iam overwhelmed. I have an iPad Pro, but I want to try an e-ink tablet.
What would you recommend for something that would work best with kindle unlimited, allows me to write on the pages and good for journaling and planning?
Thanks for this very good work .
I feel ithat i din t belong to a catégorie : a good EPUB and pdf e-reader 7,8 or 8 with audio , à few notes or underline ,no color ( I have already 2 good iPad ) and good battery life
Actually on a Kobo h2o v2 , perhaps waiting for a New kobo sage ( with better battery ) or re try inkpad 4 ( but the UI has bugs , I don’t t know if update the system )
The Lenovo Smart Paper being able to record while your write, means it's the only device that can be used for medical notation. That's pretty neat.
Nope, Boox and Huawei MatePad Paper can also do that. Lenovo is the only one that retains the link between time of the recording and note taking.
Magazine & long-from article reading: what is the best device? E-ink color or skip color? 10” or 13”?
What about addressing the storage and whether or not it is expandable.
This guy is like if Hans Landa had the opposite of an evil twin.
Thanks for the comparisons! 😁
I would like to know if one can use the color e-ink screen without turning on the backlight. The primary reason I am considering these devices is to minimize the computer monitor screen time. Asking this because I have severe eye strain problem and neither Boox Tab Ultra or Air Note 2/plus is available for purchase (sold out).
Yes you can, but only in very good lighting conditions. For example, I use my NA3C without the front light on a nice day if I am in a well lit room. However, if it is a cloudy day, and you're far away from a window, you will want to use the front light.
One thing to be aware of, front lights on these devices are not flickering, and are a reflected light, so it's a very different story than a backlight on a traditional display.
ive been absent from the scene for awhile. How is the Boox Note Air 2 compare to all these lol
Just saw your review, got good insight of the features, working, getting me forward for decision making.
Can you please help me with the requirements as, features to,
1) Duriting notes taking, Create and
click on link which takes me to
relevant web page,
2) i can import scanned documents,
3) give multiple tags to a note while
writing and/or writing
4) Search the Links, Notes, Scanned
documents, audio, video by tags
5) Today is 17th May 2024 any new
version of remarkable coming?
Hope you can spare time and advice
I love to see "lost & forgotten" devices besides Supernote, Boox and Remarkable brands (and kindle maybe?). Huawei Matepad paper was a good choice if I would be in Huawei ecosystem and Mobiscribe Wave is a good device somewhat similar to Kindle Scribe in that it has lower price than competition.
I think that interesting category would be "eink typewriter" as not only selected tablets would be able to take part in.
Those aren't accessible in many countries. It's illegal to buy them anywhere north of Mexico in North America, for example. I think location matters in that case.
@@lowwastehighmelaninwhat? Why are they illegal?
I Would like a high spec tablet as the air 3c or the tab ultra c but without this grey unwashed screen. i need its power and the micro sd card
I wont one to draw, which is best?
Hi I have the Boox Nova air 2 and was wondering why you'd recommend the first Nova air over it? Like what issues does the newer version have in your view?
Nova Air 2 doesn't have the paperlike film on the screen, thus making it less pleasant for writing and considerably worse at handling glare and reflections. However it does have a slightly crisper image quality, so as a reader it is slightly better than the Nova Air 1, but as a writer, Nova Air 1 is better than the 2.
@@MyDeepGuide Ah I can agree. The glare on the screen is a big issue. Clarity to the point where I can see my face as I'm trying to read is very distracting. Thanks for your response. Keep up the great work. 👍
I have been using Remarkable 2 and Scribe for the past year.Remarkable remains ahead in document organization, but its features often do not work as well as they should. On balance, given the choice I would have to go with the Scribe. I have pre-ordered the SuperNote Nomad. It may have everything, except for a front lit screen, that I want. We’ll see.
I've just ordered the remarkable 2. I am a university student and I wanted to be able to write and annotate my readings (pdfs) as well as take notes (specifically for econometrics). DO you reckon that the Remarkable 2 will be helpful for that?
@lnee051
Yes, it can do that, but you will run into limitations and sometimes synchronization frustrations with the Remarkable, as their services are somewhat unreliable (mainly the reliability of the synchronization with the cloud account). Also, take care of it, as it is a very fragile device.
@lnee051 @MyDeepguide I have been a remarkable user since the launch of v. 1 and, though I have experienced occasional sync problems (mainly when the sync protocol changed and with some bugs in specific betas/releases), all these years have been mostly uneventful in this regard. I do not worry about sync because it just works.
Regarding fragility, it's true that you should have some care about it falling on the power button or the screen. I've had it fall twice but the protective cover and bag have been sufficient protection. I would not qualify it as VERY fragile.
Remarkable lacks features compared to supernote (and in some respects to boox), but depending on the user, like me, I find that as overcomplication getting in the way of something that I want to be almost as straightforward as paper writing.
Don't get me wrong, I'm a technical guy with 30 years working as a computer professional: developer, admin, you name it. But I keep the complex processes of formatting and long term information classification to the PCs/iPads/Tablets, that is not what I want in my note taker. I believe that is what keeps people like me choosing the reMarkable over other brands, though being conscious of the additional options they offer. But, for example, I would never want a full Android ecosystem and all the app store options in my thinking tool.
That said I deeply respect and appreciate @MyDeepGuide 's thorough and impartial reviews, and I come to it to have a very insightful perspective on new devices... though it seems to miss the appeal that rM has for many in its userbase.
@@siorgathering5040 Hi there! Thank you for your feedback! I appreciate it.
@@siorgathering5040 Agreed. He's the best
I have a Supernote but I am looking for a device with more functionality like less clunky email, typing into Google Docs etc.
I am thinking Boox. Colour is not such a big deal, but what would you recommend? (The X is too big).
Tab Ultra b/w?
Note Air 3 C?
I think for many of the use cases people often mention here, a Mac Book Air, for example, would be a much better and more versatile choice. An e-ink device will never replace a laptop, it is always a compromise. The strength of e-ink devices lies in taking (handwritten) notes and reading documents and books - not surfing the Internet, not email, not CZcams, etc. In my opinion, it is a big mistake for manufacturers to deviate from this focus and turn an e-ink tablet into an "ipad". A sports car is not an SUV and never will be - it just doesn't make sense.
Great for End of Year 2023!!! I understand the video just focus on e-ink devices, however looking at the price range and customer’s Jobs To Be Done, getting 9th gen iPad w/ pen without installing other distracting softwares may be a good solution. What do you think?
Thank you for watching! :) I think that one should not confuse the two types of devices. Otherwise you won't be utilizing the potential or the maximum of either of them. E-Ink devices have their strong points, regular tablets have their strong points. Yes, there is a small overlap, but that shouldn't be a distraction from the main point of a device.
I appreciate your videos. That said, I don't get why you don't mention the great advantages of having a backlight, such as on the Kindle Scribe. I got the Supernote based on your recommendation, but returned it because the screen was too hard to see.
Because you can always turn on a light in a room or use a clip-on light if you need ir, but you can't get the Supernote functionality out of the Kindle Scribe.
@@MyDeepGuide I guess that's your preference but that is a huge feature for me.
Well, then that will be an important factor when choosing a device for yourself :)
The top button on your jumper looks a little over-engineered?
A presentation I could understand. It still leaves me insufficiently informed. I am looking my ideal, specifically for an A4 size writing/drawing area, with a feel of pencil on paper and 'sound recording facility' for when I attend presentations. I would need Optical Character recognition to convert my handwritten Notes to Typeset and also to pdf or 'Word' format. I would be looking for colour to accommodate some 350 eBook purchases from Apple Books. Video recording would be a luxury that I would like to have though it is not a must. I will not consider Amazon products.
which are the best for reading pdfs?
i got the kindle scribe and like it. i just wish it was 7 or 8 inches. i like little!
Hello,
As always, your videos are very useful, but I miss a category to draw. It may not be very useful for many people, but it is one more functionality, whether for presentations, leisure or learning. Above all leisure.
Another thing is the storage capacity of one's own annotations, how a document increases in size when taking notes (I don't know if this would be for ranking or for analysis) but in reMarkable2 it increases too much.
And finally, there is a brand that you never evaluate, I don't know if it's because they don't send you a "demo" or because you don't like it or anything else. I mean the "pocket" more 😬 "book"...
what do you think?
Thank you, stay safe, stay healtphy
I mostly focus on eNote devices, and Pocketbook doesn't have any that are worth consideration, if I'm honest.
@@MyDeepGuide thanks
I'm looking for the best e-reader and note-taking that I can use for school. And I think my best choice is the Boox Tab Ultra C pro. I hope it will be worth the money I spend because it is pretty expensive
thank you...
Remarkable 2 replacement policy is that they replace defective devices only with refurbished ones.You buy new one with warranty and cover 3yrs plan and if problem occurs during warranty period they will replace it with refurbished one not with brand new.
OneNote has the capability of tracking recordings with typed notes. A lot like the old Livescribe pens. However, it is device-dependent. I've only tried it on laptops (Mac and PC). So far, it doesn't work that way on the iPad, Samsung Fold4 or the S9+...yet. If they do in the future, that takes the Note Airs or any other android eInk tablet to another level.
You did everything except the best for art/drawing, which is best for that?
Well, it depends what kind of art we are talking about. If graphite pencil feel is important for you, then it would be the Remarkable or the Scribe. If however, colors are important for you, then NA3C would be able to deliver quite a bit.
Thank you so much. Do you know if Tab X did solve the problem with languages keyboard? Can we change languages on this device? It is crucial for me to be able to write in Greek, Hebrew, Arabic and other exotic languages. Do we have on it all the characters we usually have in out laptops? Thank you.
You can always simply install the GBoard as your virtual keyboard and then use the huge list of languages it provides. You check online which languages are supported by the GBoard.
I may have a similar use case as I edit and proofread scientific papers and books professionally in the field of Semitic Studies, Oriental Studies, Islamic Theology, and such.
Although I have installed GBoard and sometimes switch between languages, the diacritical glyphs outside of the most used and "normal" ones (no matter whether it is Hebrew or Arabic, ... or a transliteration system like DMG/IJMES) are often not accessible once you reach "accent land" or want to use ligatures. (On my laptop I use a system of keyboard shortcuts to insert Unicode characters, but these are working for MS Word only and get their use for transliteration of Ethiopic or other languages where glyphs need to be distinguished by dots underneath etc.)
A workaround may be just write away as best as possible and leave marks for cleanup that otherwise do not occur, like #xy, then search for # and edit once you have access to a proper computer.
---> It is possible to do basic stuff on the Tab X and type and write in so many languages that scrolling the GBoard language list to add new keyboard layouts gets tedious for how long it is (Hebrew and Greek being among those at the veeeery end), but the Tab X (at least for me) cannot replace a computer for such use cases, just accompany it.
@@MyDeepGuide In this video, nine months ago, there was a problem with the home screen, and the system did not allow to switch between languages:czcams.com/video/B7XuRypJ6Ww/video.html Are these problems still present? If I will not be able to use Greek Polytonic and other keyboards, it is useless. How can they miss something so important?
@@julieparadise9694 Thank you so much for your help. It is not worth so much money for such a bad service. At least they should allow us to use Greek Polytonic and add the vowels for Hebrew. This is so bad!
@@hellenomousaion8736 Na, I would not dismiss a device for such a niche use case scenario. Everything besides using the big languages on an e-ink device in my opinion has to be considered a niche within a niche within a niche.
I'd recommend to use these things and other devices in a "mix-and-match" way. Maybe I've come too far with trying to solve problems around rare scripts such as Ethiopian fidel etc. so that I am not put off by programmes or devices that do not solve _all_ my problems, but rather take from each what does work and try to navigate around the rest. ;-)
Thanks for the video, very informative. When you were talking about device for research and study You mentioned about Lenovo paper scribe. Why has the devise many negative comments? What are the main problems with the device? Tha is in advance
Hi, well the main issue is software and how some of the services have been implemented, basically crippling what is otherwise and excellent hardware device. Check my in-depth review of it, if you are interested in more details, all is covered there and 8n subsequent update coverage videos, that are also available on my channel :)
I watched it. very good one. thanks a lot for your work. currently testing one, and it is good in something, like you can upload some extra apps. What is your verdict for the battery? It lose about 3-5% overnight. eve when you are not touching it the battery drain by itself. @@MyDeepGuide
Dear Voja, I've been following the e-ink industry since kindle 2 and I know a few things about most devices. I also own some devices mostly outdated ones. I live in Iran and have no access to the global market. I need your advice but I need to bore you with one more point. These devices are very expensive for someone living in Iran. I have to pay at least 3 or 4 month full salary to be able to buy one (and we are not talking about minimum wage at all). I can also "only" buy onyx boox readers, other brands are very rarely found second-hand by people who brought them from other countries. So considering everything, for somebody whose priorities are color, bigger screen, and "durability", which device is the best in your opinion. I know about the general features as I watch your videos but I don't really know anything about specific factors like sturdiness and durability. Thank you very much for your time. ❤❤
and I guess I need to add that I tend to write a loooot, and that's why I need sth to be sturdy enough to bear the weight of my palm on the screen. I dont know why but I always think that if I rest my hand on the screen for too long, it'll eventually break.
Hello Voja.
Why does it happen that the colors on the Tab mini C are more intense than on the note air 3C? They are the same type of screen. It shouldn't happen. Thanks!
Because of the screen coating. The Tab Mini C has a clear non-resistant matte coating; whereas the note air 3c has it for the better writing experience. :-)
@@ThePianist51 The Tab Mini C has a scratch-resistant matte glass surface, while the Note Air 3 C has a film that improves the writing experience, that worsens the picture quality
@alonsoyanez
What they said, kinda. There is also the fact that it is a smaller screen and that it has (I believe) fewer frontlight LEDs, which would wash out the image less, as opposed to a 10.3" screen, but this is me just guessing.
@@MyDeepGuide That can't be the case - the only possibility, apart from the writing foil, would be that the filter intensity would be weaker in the NA3 CFA. However, the writing foil always worsens the image
And is it possible to remove that writing foil, from the reader? @@wernerarts
Pleasantly surprised that the Tab X was the overall winner. I am absolutely in love with mine 😊
As always, I loved your video. All devices that you viewed on this particular video, I have owned a large portion of them. My problem is I cannot come to a final conclusion on whether or not I want a portable device or one that stays on my desk. I currently own the books Note air 3C. I do have an order the Supernote a 6X2 nomad. It is my intention to keep both devices for a period of time make a decision and then sell one of them. I do believe that I will not lose a lot of money reselling either of those two devices.thank you for your time and effort and putting these videos together.
For me, having a deadvice that is focused and does the thing I need to do and nothing else is invaluable. so for me Super Note was the pick and the runner up was the remarkable.
Boox does too much and the potential for distraction is an issue that’s why I stop using mine.
Edit: I forgot to mention, proven long-term support being an important factor in my choosing of Super Note.
Ok, but in which category?
Great video as always.
Slightly controversially I would love you to review tablets like ipad and Samsung tab to get you honest views on them as opposed to eink devices.
Not controversial at all, but I already have a review of the Lenovo Tab P11 Pro, if you are interested. Generally, I find those to be quite boring, because they do everything pretty much the same, it's just the case of does it work as it should, or is something obviously broken. That's at least how I see them :)
Some content and efforts required two thumbs up....
What about any Pocketbook devices? How do they compare? They seem closer to Kindle/Kobo.
I've tried 3-4 different pocketbook devices a few years ago, and the smaller format devices are nice, but the library is limited and when you start side loading stuff, the OS weaknesses start to pop up, and generally, those devices are always just a bit too slow to comfortably use them. At least for me. And they are not cheap enough to accept those shortcomings easily.
@@MyDeepGuide True but that also applies somewhat to Kindle/Kobo I'd think. Except for speed. But seems latest Inkpad Color 3 (K3) seems little bit closer to Kindle/Kobo category and 40g lighter than mini C and nicer design with buttons. So sure trade-offs (like most).
Sorry, but you really can't compare the Kindle and Kobo libraries to the Pocketbook library. It's simply a different league, and the books on the Pocketbook library used to be ridiculously overpriced, I haven't checked in a while, but that was a big turn off point for me as well.
@@MyDeepGuide Didn't know the book store was the focus here. Not my use case to use that.
Dear Voja,
Thank you for the detailed video. I suggest adding a category for business executives. My needs include extensive Kindle reading, using apps like WSJ and FT, sharing news, handling a lot of document work (reading/ editing/ sending), and taking extensive personal notes. None of your current categories fully match my requirements. Could you recommend something for my situation? Thanks!
Hey, I cannot find any Hisense e-ink smartphone reviews on your channel. Why is this?
Because it's not the type of product I am interested in reviewing, and the interest for it is very low. So I would have to purchase the phone just for the review, and such a video would never cover even a 10th of the cost of the phone, due to it not being popular enough.
@@MyDeepGuide I believe the interest has gone up a bit because of Boox Palma. Everybody's whining about the missing SIM card slot.
Let’s face it, if one marks up a document via highlighting … clearly this is relevant to the reader. Is there a device that can index search and convert to text so that in the end one has a summarized version of the document they have read and highlighted. Basically being able to condense a chapter to only the most relevant info and then having the ability to search for it afterwards for review???
The platform that can get closest to what you are describing is any Boox device with the default NeoReader app. Check their user manual for more details if you are interested, or some of my earlier "in-depth and guide" videos, such as Note Air 1, or even older, Nova 2, Max 3...
Supernote, kindle, remarkable
List of the best e-ink devices: 1. Note Air 3C, 2.Ultra Tab C Pro, 3.Ultra Tab C, 4.Note Air 2 Plus, 5.Ultra Tab
You just named all Boox hybrid type devices which isnt for everyone, can be a distraction, & the battery is a disappointment for an e-ink device. I own a Note Air3C, but have used the Remarkable & really enjoy the no distraction, size of it, & app sync. I also have a Kindle scribe. It has the best screen & Kindle function by far, but the notes software needs work.
@firstnamelastname8413
Yeaaaaah... it doesn't really work like that :D
Remarkable2 Is the best 👍
Depends for what, but as a blanket statement for an overall device for any purpose, no, it really isn't. It's very good at several things, but it isn't the best at any of them.
I had the reMarkable and it was terrible! It has no palm sensor so you will lose you work by accident. It lags, it is subscription based, it cannot sketch correctly and it definitely cannot add to your calendar for reminders and has no external option for additional memory. After 4 days of use and continued lag and loss of data and document markup the reMarkable was just terrible. For the price of nearly 1K I expect more. Simply said It was so terribly frustrating to use it was returned. When I think of the reMarkable now I will classify it as a 2023 an adult etch a sketch without the sketch.
I'm not a Remarkable fan, but this sounds like you really didn't do any proper research on the device before you purchased it.
@@MyDeepGuide actually I did lot's of research. Looking at CZcams reviews, Facebook, everything I could find. There are not to many negative reviews on the device as they seem to be missing or lacking real content. If I only wanted to take notes and do nothing else then this would be a perfectly expensive device for that. I want something that can script to text, calendar, text to type and be able to record meetings all the while taking notes at the same time. The remarkable is what was available everything else is out of stock. However I have found that the Samsung Notes and tablets do all of this. With the links to email write on PDF, doodles, script, palm sensitivity, color, it's everything and integrated to my PC. Just as your review never touched on palm sensitivity neither has any other review. You will never know how you will like a device until you purchase it and use it. The remarkable is a mediocre device that is limited even with the subscription service that is required. The device price point is a little over $1,000.00 and for that target point I expect more. Thankfully it was returned and so was my money.
Hm. What kind of research did you do if you were surprised that it "lags", has a subscription model, can't integrate with external calendars, and has non-expandable storage? The last two clearly show that you probably didn't even read the specifications sheet, did you? Otherwise, you would clearly have seen that this is not an app based device, that it has a subscription, and that it doesn't have expandable storage. So quite a lot of the stuff you are complaining about is actually on you not doing proper research. Watching videos does not equal research, btw. Research is focused gathering of information that you don't have, but are interested in. This can be done by watching videos, but the key here is the focus in filling up the missing pieces of the puzzle, so that you are actually informed about the product you are interested in purchasing.
The only reason why I am saying this, is to help you not repeat the same mistake with other devices, to avoid disappoinment and manage expectations.
I have a Max 2 now you made me feel. Bad😅
Me too (owning a Max 2)! Give it a little companion that is more prone to be carried around and let both be happy. ;-)
The color e reader in the book note 3 C is really really bad! I am surprised I m not hearing it here. Am I doing something wrong? When I read a medical textbook or article, on the kindle app or the vital source app, the tables are extremely hard to decipher and any color picture is like a big blob. Same table and the picture is extremely legible on the kindle scribe in black and white.
I sent the boox note air 3 c back today. I had purchased it as I was tempted by the color but it is making things worse. I assume the tab ultra C pro would be similar.
If someone wants a great e reader and a good note taker, there is nothing better than the scribe. Maybe the Note 2 or X. All this hype about android ecosystem I don't understand. The e ink reader is not good enough for Netflix etc, that you can access it is not meaningful in anyway. The ultra C pro is by no means a laptop substitute. My 2 cents.
Sounds like you didn't take the time to check the user manual and adjust the options in the NeoReader so that you can get the best image results for your specific document. You will be very hard pressed to find a better, more versatile and more capable reader than the NeoReader on Boox devices.
And no, these devices are not meant for video streaming and watching.
@@MyDeepGuide I was using the kindle app to read and also tried the vitalsource bookshelf app, both with similar results. Did not try the neoreader as all my medical textbooks are on either kindle or on vitalsource. Thanks
Do yourself the favour and take some time to tinker around with the settings in the Neo Reader. It is amazing how much the appearance of documents can be improved by making the glyphs darker/stronger, switch on anti-aliasing, or select other optimization functions.
In the case that you are not using the NeoReader, then you really want to learn how to optimize 3rd party apps, as Boox devices have excellent options to optimize the display quality for different apps, and you can really fine tune it nicely. But then again, you already returned it before actually learning how to use it so, maybe this is a mute point, but it might help someone else who is in a similar situation.
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