Thermalright did it AGAIN - Phantom Spirit 120 EVO Review
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- čas přidán 15. 06. 2024
- So Thermalright has launched another Phantom Spirit, this time its the 120 EVO. The only problem is that in a market that's cluttered with the original Phantom Spirit, Peerless Assassin, Frost Spirit and Frost Commander, where does the EVO actually fit in and can the Phantom Spirit 120 EVO offer cooling performance that makes it all that much different?
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 - ANOTHER Peerless Assassin Derivative
0:55 - Phantom Spirit 120 EVO Specs & Price
2:12 - Sponsor Spot
2:45 - Fan Acoustics Testing
4:39 - Problems with Heatsink / Fan Optimization
6:18 - Intel GAMING Temperatures
6:52 - Intel 180W Temperature Testing
7:24 - Intel 253W Temperature Testing
8:02 - Intel No Limits Temperature & Frequency Testing
8:40 - Ryzen GAMING Temperatures
9:25 - Ryzen 5 7600X Temperature Testing
9:44 - Ryzen 7 7700X Temperature Testing
10:13 - Ryzen 9 7950X Temperature & Frequency Testing
10:52 - Testing Alternate Fans (T30, P12 MAX & More)
13:17 - A Victim of their Success...
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thermalright at this point just gonna compete with themselves
And they did....
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@@HardwareCanucks Are you planning to get either of their new AIOs? Frozen Warframe and Frozen Vision? Both have LCD screens and going by foreign pricing, seem to run under the $100 mark.
@@deuswulf6193 Frozen Warframe is a shit because of TL-S12 vents. Vision is good, but it is same as Matrix Core, same as Edge, but Edge has higher pump rate
@@UnderDogggee TL-S12 is fine, I just installed a few of those fans in another rig and are decent given their price point. Its not like we can't swap the fans out for something even better, especially when the AIO is around $100 or less.
Pump rate is an interesting metric to go off of. Some of the best AIOs on the market right now don't have a high pump speed, while some that do are not necessarily top performers.
Thermalright beating the Bequiets at a way lower price point is a MASSIVE WIN!!
I've always equipped all the PCs I've built for myself, family and friends with Thermalright and I've never been disappointed!!
Keep it up!
be quiet! has always been overpriced, with all their products.
Their PSUs are decently priced @@drewnewby
I'm using a Peerless assassin SE on a 7800x3d and while temps are really good (below 70 while gaming, 82C when on stresstest like cinebench), the noise level is a bit too high for my taste.
Think switching to Phantom spirit SE might make a noticeable difference in noise?
@@psobbtutorials6792 Are you turboing this notoriously hot cpu and complaining when you use a cheap cooler?? I keep my x3d under control. These sub 40 coolers are freaking great.
You might try liquid, but know that a fan has to create lots of pressure to make a radiator work..
@@psobbtutorials6792i have the PA SE too, just regulate the fan at 50%. You will not hear anything and losing very little as performance
Thermals are rights 😊
tes pc sont éclatés
@@FootballManagerEuropec’est beau l’anonymat, ou pas, on te voit oufti 🤣
@@FootballManagerEurope c'est toi qui est éclaté au sol comme ton pseudo
@@Jensen4090 Dit-il avec ces 7 vues
@@FootballManagerEurope coucou! 😁
I like that super subtle RGB.
me too, they got taste
yep this cooler is for someone who is looking for a looks upgrade, it still performs great
@@din3832 Which one?
@@rhlparkr Phantom Spirit evo looks better then regular version phantom spirit SE. It performs a little worse, but not in a significant way. If you want bang for buck i would buy Phantom spiit SE or regular version, EVO for the looks
@@din3832 anything with rgb will perform a little worse. You always pay more for aesthetics. For those that love the RGB bling I think this air cooler would probably be the best performing one on the market now. I'd pay for it. 👍
Good to know I made the right decision by buying the TR Phantom Spirit 120 SE (thanks to your reviews). Thanks again for your fantastic Video!
3:41 thanks alot for the countdown, you really know what you're doing and you know how people are. I really appreciate you not blowing my eardrums. 😅
sees air cooler in thumbnail, realizes im going to keep on subscribing and watching like I have since 2018
We’re gonna need a thermalright AIO vs air cooler video at this point with how many they have on the market at such similar prices
Thermalright AIO prices are crazy though fr
In my country you can get a Thernalright 240 AIO with LCD screen for 65 dollar
As a consumer I genuinely hope Thermal right profit massively and take the majority market share on this leaving their competitors pockets empty, they've proven that it doesn't have to cost a fortune to provide us consumers with a quality product for an affordable price. I want nothing more than this to be a huge success for them in the same way the new arctic aio coolers have been.
Truly impressive work!
the title makes it sounds like they had some special feat, I stood corrected, thank you dearrow user for fixing the title
I bought this a few months ago on sale for about 50 usd and I love this cooler
Best coolers' reviewer ever, thanks for this coverage. Thermalright performances are always top notch, for real 💪
Thank you for that timer on back to mic when measuring the noise! I had to turn the volume way up and going back to mic would have hurt at that level. Perfect small detail!
got this cooler a few weeks ago for 40 Euro, could not be happier with it
where, if you don't mind me asking?
The SE yes.. but the EVO seems to be 60+ everywhere now (in Euros yes)
Always the best air coolers reviews thanks bro
I love the way you present your information; very detailed yet easy to understand. Thanks for explaining in detail the difference between fans and fans + cooler! Just because of this video I won't waste my money on the EVO.
Well.... they wouldn't be called Thermalright, if they were wrong... they would have to call themselves Thermalwrong? I'll see my self out now.
Thanks for another great review! For the case of SW Pro 4, which mounting type did you use? I am considering mixing the fans with the cooler for the best performance based on your review.
This was an interesting video and very good analysis, thanks Mike!
Thats a tasteful amount of RGB
Been using this cooler for a couple months, so far so good.
Almost fallen into a state of major FOMO cause I just got the PS SE. Somewhat glad and disappointed to see these results. Nice bit of bonus testing there with the different fans, glad to know that if they break, I'll just grab the Silent Wings.
I TOTALLY LOVE your honesty.
I don't like many youtuber becase they receive free products for good review. It's like Tony knife sellers.
But you, are a real review maker and i trust in this. THANK YOU!
I've used a lot of Thermalright products in builds and so far their TF7 thermal paste is up there with Noctua NTH1 & NTH2 and their Thermalright Frozen Notte 360mm AIO for under £55 is a no brainer and exceptional performance , I can see this brand becoming more expensive in the future
I bought these fans to mount on my radiator. They are really nice and are affordable.
I have PS EVO, bought it with almost the same price as SE version and it is working very good with Ryzen 5800X even with stock settings of CPU, my previous cooler Grandis V3 struggled even with optimized settings for this CPU. I wanted to switch fans in future but thanks to this video I know that difference between stock fans is not huge. I wish that ENDORFY Fluctus fans would be tested as they are extremely popular in my country. Probably good curve in Fan Control is almost as good option as the SW Pro 4 fans :) Huge thanks for this fan swap test as it is extremely helpful!
please always do the fan change test on every cooler review. that was interesting
love your reviews, and your wallpaper!
I am currently using a Phantom Spirit SE with T30 fans, you can shove a T30 in the middle, barely. You slide it down with one edge in a channel and then slide it over. I had to use a different clip that hooks onto the closer edge for the second fan. It is freaking awesome. Thumbs up.
I decided on the Phantom spirit 120 SE rgb after watching your videos for my 13700k system and been very impressed with it. I had to move the fans up a bit to clear my G.skill ram but still far better than the old air cooler
got this on my home ML/DL machine on 14700k,
lite load 2, c-state 10, hard capped at 205w, 83° MAX temp in cine bench, 35000 easily. What a monster
Glad seeing my Frost Spirit 140 still performing very well! Why would anyone buy something else? 😜
I've been using a Phantom Spirit SE with 2 Noctura NF-A12 fans and its really nice. I'm Slowly changing all my fans to NF-A12's.
Do you guys have a tier list? Im struggling to keep up with all the recommendations!
Thanks for this video! I recently purchased both a Frost Spirit V3 and a Phantom Spirit EVO and was waiting for this review before deciding what to use with my 7950X.
Different Perspective: Couldn’t the Phantom Spirit EVO just be used as a lower noise Phantom Spirit SE if one just limits the RPM of each fan to 1500rpm just like the SE fans are limited to rather than just allowing it to ramp up to 2150RPM? It wouldn’t be higher performing than the SE, but it would be equal performance at a lower noise floor which should be an automatic win.
Seems like the Frost Spirit still wins on the 7950X though.
since you love so much phantom spirit you need to check all of 120mm fans you have and swap them with stock tl-c12 ;> and btw can you sqeeze noctuas d15 fan between towers ?
Most underrated channel. Thank you 🫡
thank's for the review as always !
quite funny to see thermalright competing with themselve and actually "losing" 🤣
My bet for they're next product is a dual 140mm air cooler or atleast i would like that
Interesting testing, especially compared to Tom's Hardware, where the EVO was always ahead at 100% Pushing Power (I guess at a normalized 38db it's a different story in the long run).
What I would love to see, since the TL-C12 Fans seem to be generally good (used on Peerless Assistan, Phantom Spirit, etc). How would the TL-C12Pro compare on the Thermalright Coolers or in general use (Radiator, Case Fan etc), since they are a very very cheap option too, sitting at like 6,50€ vs the TL-C12 for 6€ (or even the TL-G12).
Could that be the best new Budget Option for people, after Arctic P12 being basically the same price nowadays?
I love your content and I discovered the channel recently. I have a build based on the Fractal land with a noctua nh l9x65 That I don't like so much even if it does its job... What would you recommend for such a small build?
I fitted a Phantom Spirit Evo to my new 7600 CPU 7600XT gaming system in January, I'm using it now, its brilliant, low temps low noise low price, couldn't justify an AIO for the money and it just works. Recommended.
Well, I'm still thinking of getting it since the price is not that different and I want the black aesthetic, but I understand why you responded before not to get it.
Also curious if there have been consideration on adding the 7800X3D to testing cause of its recent popularity.
Any plans on reviewing the Scythe Mugen 6 (normal and black edition)? Really interested in seeing some more reviews on it. Seems like it could be a winner when it comes to noise-normalized performance.
already bought PS evo 3 months ago when im building new computer when people are recommending phantom assassin etc but i want to support thermal right and i dont mind spending abit more for their latest product knowing they wont disappoint, its doing my 7800x3d chip good, converted from custom water cooling full loop to air cooler and no regrets at all. easier maintenance and easy to replace component as and when i want without trouble of draining water and dismantling everything. no regrets!
i built the tower 300 already and i loveee it
I bought this CPU cooler last black friday to go in my new gaming rig with a 7800X3D and it was mainly because Thermalright has so many excellent CPU cooler with extremely good value. It look really wonderful in my black and orange PC look. Also, I'm using only the fan between the 2 towers in it and the CPU never goes above 75C and is extermely silent. I could configure the fan more aggressively, but it would increase the noise and the temperature is very acceptable like it is now.
I've bought a few of these. I'm not actually using them, but have them in case my AIO ever goes out!
What would be the best air cooler for a 7950X3D now performance-wise though? Would be nice to have a recommendation to keep handy in case the AIO on-hand goes bad.
So until 1500rpm the Evo seems the better pick for quiet gaming. Is the cooling of the Evo until 1500 rpm enough for quiet gaming on 7800x3d?
God bless you guys for testing both Intel and AMD.
crazy that the Noctua NH-D15 is literally 10 years old and still shows up towards the top of the list
Thanks for this. I was looking for comparisons between these two coolers to upgrade the workshop PC from a stock intel cooler and grabbed the PS120 SE for $35. The Evo is $49.
I’m really interested in seeing how the Scythe Mugen 6 compares to these, both in single and dual fan configs.
Great video!
Any chance you guys might review the Jonsbo CR-3000 argb? Its looks so good, I just wonder how it really performs and can't find any good data on it.
Hi! I was curious on your thoughts for the DARKROCK PX4 since its a 17$ single tower cooler
I actually bought this one a couple of months ago before all the reviews started rolling in. Good thing too since it seems like it's been unavailable as of late? I was using a Corsair H100i Platinum before but it would get noisy and the RGB on the cpu block was always messed up, like it wouldn't display blues correctly. Since I'm running a 9600K (at 5.2GHz) it doesn't usually have to work very hard so it's been pretty quiet especially compared to the old AIO I had. I plan to upgrade to a newer platform (probably AM5) sometime in the next year hopefully so I just considered this my first piece of a new build lol.
Kinda curious if you were to design a CPU cooler with a curved fin stacks that go 45degrees so when air blows out its directed to a specific direction that could possibly lead to another fan mount. Since all coolers have one direction....
thx for review :)
Props to Noctua for the engineering. China are proving it can be done cheaper
11:44 have you tried attaching the T30s on the extreme sides of the cooler towers. Not sure if the fan clips would allow it, but there's only one way to find out ;)
My all-black Peerless Assasin is mated to two Silent Wings 4 I had. Gotta say that its super effective cooling my AM4 CPU and the only way I can hear them is if I manually crank their speed up. Noctua and the other big players have their back against the wall. Can't wait to see what they come up with in their future products.
what cpu are you using? I am thinking about modifying my peerless assassin with different fans too, or getting a different cooler altogether. Getting really good temps, but I think the noise level is a bit too high. Using it on a 7800x3d
@@psobbtutorials6792 right now it's a 5600X but I'm planning to upgrade to an X3D chip at some point
Noctua at least intend to release new cooler this year
But I also won't be surprised if they don't and keep their same cooler lineup for another 50 years.
My Arctic P12 max peerless assassin: "hahahahah, Baka"
I'm planning to put 2 Silent Wings 4 120 HS to the Phantom Spirit Se. I wonder if there will be any annoying noise compared to stocks.
I saw some videos people put Noctua to it and sound profile is unbearable.
Using one for my 7800x3D, fractal north. The deal was to use T30s, and the Evo’s fans at 45%. Can’t hear them.
How in the world did you make the T30's fit? I needed to bend the heatpipes like crazy to even contemplate jamming in a T30.
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@@HardwareCanucks I assume the T30s are the case fans, not the CPU cooler fans.
@@HardwareCanucks Use one in the back and one in the front, may want to add a 5mm spacer for the back fan to make it more silent. One in the back and one in the front may also gives a bit better thermals.
Looks like the huge fan hub interferes with actual amount of air being moved through fins at equal rpm vs SE
we love budget options
I have the spirit evo. Instead of the stock fans, I am using Superflower megacool 120mm 30mm thick fan that came with my psu. Fits in without issues.
Did they pull the PS 120 EVO off the market so they could sell their older models? I have not been able to find it on Amazon or any store, and I live in the US where this is normally not a problem.
I think its a stock issue since here in Canada the EVO is readily available.
if I want the phantom spirit in all black can I take the phantom spirit evo and change the fans ?
13:50 That's probably the point. I bought this cooler for my 7800x3d and the main reason i wanted this one over the regular PS is the looks. I dont mind the 10€ difference on my country's amazon and i don't mind what's probably a 1 to 2° difference either. I think thermalright was missing a "cooler" looking cooler (ahah) in their line up and this fits the bill while still being a top performer and affordable
Do you plan to do a review of the Scythe Mugen 6 ?
Hello! How are you getting 68c-64c degrees on 7700x with Peerless Assasin? I'm using same cooler with 7600x and I'm on 85c-95c on CPU even with 50% cpu usage. I have mesh front in case (and airflow is good, gpu at 75c max).
I use them almost exclusively including their 240mm AIOs. Thermalright ILMs are great too for LGA1700 and AM5 mobos.
Ditched my Liquid Freezer II 280mm for Phantom Spirit 120 EVO for 5950x. Temp is practically the same in most of my use cases.
I would really like to try one of these dual heatsink air coolers just for fun but I don't think they fit in my Phanteks P300
Thank you.
Should I get Phantom Spirit 120 EVO or 120 SE for my 7800x3D? Currently I have Dark Rock 4 Pro, and it's too loud for me during gaming.
with the fan swap comment about pairing the fan to the cooler. I think its mostly the middle / pull fan. The Front only fan should line up more what we would expect. I would say this is because many fans put their blades right up to the edge of the housing, so in pull those blades cross the fin stack making noise. Using A12x25 as an example the blades are inset a little from the front of the housing.
So ya agree with comment you made need fans and fins designed to work together.
TL-S12-W fans would be crazy on this one
This video was so well made! You can pat yourselves on the back, @HardwareCanucks!
Thermalright is killing it lately!
did you try the evo fans on the base phantom spirit? the heatsink appears to be identical with the base PS, so either the heatsink is so optimized for the lower quality fans that the better ones doesn't do anything, or the black coating or something on the EVO is making them a less efficient heatsink. I for one, would be shocked if swapping the evo fans onto the base PS doesn't make it perform better than your original testing on it.
of course this is all kind of moot anyways if you are not tightly controlling ambient temps in this testing
I remember when I had a Thermalright SLK-800 with a Delta 80mm on my Athlon XP
Ive got the frost spirit on my 5800x3d, a peerless assassin on my daughters ryzen 5600 perfect for what i need.
Do you think installing the original PS TL-C12 fans on the EVO would actually be better noise and performance wise, compared to the TL-K12?
I just bought and installed the peerless assassin og... I didn't know about these...
Got the classy thermalalright assassin 120 for 32$ on sale and it's lowered my 5700x temps to a nice 68c pushing emulation, modded cyberpunk, and video rendering.
The 3 alternate fans all have high static pressure compared to the stock fans. I’m curious to see how a high airflow, low static pressure fan performs like the Scythe Kaze 2 high performance
Can you elaborate on the worse fan on the Peerless Assassin Mini?
Couldn't I just replace those fans with two Akasa Piranha ones? They may only spin at up to 1900 RPM, but they have a higher CFM (79.13) and more static pressure (3.04 mm H2O). They also have the same width as the Thermalright fans that go in there.
My results are very different. The Evo is better than the SE in my testing, probably because I had it in an actual working PC, not open bench, not with the side off or anything like that. This was with a 13700K.
It was also quieter in most usage cases because it didn't need to throttle, because it was a better cooler.
thanks
this reminds me of mid 2000s where thermalright were the king of air cooling.
I might kindly suggest you retest the gaming results of the Assassin IV here, it doesn't make sense that it would be 6C behind the AK620 in gaming, but ahead of the AK620 in both 180w and 253W loads.
Was there any thermal difference between the two Phantom Evo models?
I´d like to know as well. Would be nice if this gets answered. But i assumed they were basically the same or else it would have been mentioned.
How well does it handle 14700K (MX-6 paste + TR contact frame)? For gaming mostly.
I'm pretty disappointed.....when I saw the noise charts in the beginning I was excited but the temp testing is a letdown. I guess I'll stick with recommending the PS120SE, then. Thanks for the quality vid as always :)
For 7800 x3d which Thermalright cooler i need to choose? 😊
i feel bad for liking the evo, but im probably going to get it even when its not much better and noticeably more expensive but i just dont like the silver heatsink on basic PS 120 SE - wish they made all black phantom spirit
Depending on where you look each of these coolers outperforms the other Tom's says EVO, GN says Peerless Assassin, PC Analytics says Phantom Spirit, here they say Phantom Spirit SE. I'm still recommending the Phantom Spirit, its the replacement for the Peerless Assassin and the 120 SE models are the cut down versions. There's even a replacement rumored for the larger Frost Commander coming soon.
Gamers Nexus has never tested the Phantom Spirit, only the Peerless Assassin.
I didn't say they did?
@@drewnewby "Depending on where you look each of these coolers outperforms the other Tom's says EVO, GN says Peerless Assassin"
One could interpret this as Gamers Nexus has tested both the Peerless Assassin and Phantom Spirit, and concluded that the Peerless Assassin is superior.
Phantom Spirit 120 RGB does have a bit of whining noise at high speed. It is not bad. Just there. I am glad they address this with better fans. I am happy with my Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120SE ARGB. It keeps my AMD 5900X nice and cool. And love the price. There are others that are higher price that are better, but the improvement is not enough to justify it being so.