This Will Make You Want A 4TH GEN Toyota 4RUNNER
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
- Sure, 5th Gen Toyota 4runners are newer and nicer... but are they worth more than double the price of a 4th Gen? Here's my argument for saving a bunch of money, building something more personalized, and ending up with a far better engine.
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I ve had bot, 5th all the way
I just picked up a 1 owner ‘03 V8 4Runner with 146k miles and all maintenance service records including its original window sticker for $4k from my old man’s real estate customer yesterday!! Apparently, 6 months ago she went outside to start it and nothing happened, so she went out and bought a brand new TRD for $65k. She offered to have it towed and “fixed” for me since I think she really just needed it moved off the property of her old house.. I told her that might not be necessary, and yesterday I drove out to her place with a new battery, my girlfriend, and $4k in hand. I put in the new battery and it started right up (of course). It runs PURRRFECT!! Needs a good detail after sitting for as long as it has, but I definitely got the deal of a lifetime!! Can’t wait to start building it out!!
I've had my V8 Limited 4Runner for about 2 years now and you've helped me a ton, since day one! I remember looking up your video about things to watch out for when buying one, on the way to meet the guy to check the vehicle out. One of the best decisions I've made to buy this thing - I got it for $4,800 USD with 153k miles.
Thanks for the content, keep it up, you make us 4th gen owners feel great!!!
They will have to release something amazing for me to give up my 2003 V8 4Runner.
I also own a 2003 V-8. it is a rear wheel drive limited edition model that I picked up about a year ago and it is very reliable. Relatively flat torque curve and it pulls like a freight train.
Agreed. None of that 4cyl bs give me my gas guzzling v8 anyday
@@erroltorres8557 I will have had mine 21 year Nov 21st. Love it as much today as the day I bought, if not more. @urban_overland
228,000 miles on my 2008 4.7l 💪🏼
My 2006 Ltd with the V8 has 296,790 kms, still running like new…keeping it until it rolls over and dies, changed the suspension and had the timing belt and water pump changed twice
I totally get you on the pricing on the 4th and 5th Gen. 4Runners. I had a fully built 4th Gen with the V8 and I thought I'd never sell it, until someone made me an offer I couldn't refuse (yep, prices are crazy.) I used that opportunity to buy a brand new 5th Gen TRD ORP. Yep - crazy expensive, but I don't have any regrets, honestly. I LOVE my new 2022 (now 2 YO) 4Runner in Lunar Rock.
I have had both and if you dont plan on towing major weight then 6 cylinder is where is at.
Part time 4wd gives u better MPG plus a timing Chain instead of a belt and all kinds of room to work under the hood.
Just my opinion
Love my 05 4Runner 302k miles and still going strong, can do what ever the 5gen can do on the trails
Man you’re one of the only people fourth gen content. I think every time I’ve done anything to my 06 I’ve looked your videos up first. Maybe I should start making some of my own content, seems like there’s an opening in the space.
I grew up in pakistan and moved to pnw for grad school. This truck's twin goes by name of Hilux Surf has a fierce reputation that it can go anywhere from rugged mountains to desert and snow. I always wanted it back in the day. After moving to north america I got my first 3rd gen 4runner. It was rwd but still feels very capable on rough terrain. About a month ago I found a v6 4th gen 4runner just under 5 grand! It runs and drives so good. I deep cleaned and shampooed it (there was a mouse carcass in the cabin air filter :D). The mechanic said its solid, and just had to do the rear axle seal. Happy that the v6 has timing chain so I didn't have to do that like on the 3rd gen. Have been watching your channel and very inspired to do new tires and lift soon!
I love the 4Runner in general but between my wife’s 2010 limited and my 04 SR5 V8 I absolutely love my 4th gen. PO did a lot of modern updates to the interior. Apple car play head unit, remote start, and a back up camera. Love how smooth the V8 is as well!
Love your vids! 4th gen 4Runner here also. Keep up the good work!
Love my 2007 4runner! 300k miles and still going strong!
Love our 2008 v8 SR5. Putting a 2” lift come spring and will run this thing until the wheels fall off
It's been a week for me owning a 2024 4runner trd ORP and it's been fabulous! Im in love with it
i had a 2008 2wd V6 4runner and I loved that thing. it was only till I started offroading more seriously that I noticed that 4wd was kinda necessary for me. So I bought the 2012 OG 5th Gen 4WD, I got a good deal on it and I really like it. I do miss my old 4th Gen but couldn't keep it with it only being 2WD.
Well, just order my TRD PRO Ice Cap 2024 4Runner delivery date is end of this December can’t wait for it. Great video in price comparison I have owned a Toyota Truck since 86 and there’s no way I’m missing out on the last chance to get a legendary Toyota 4Runner no matter what the price is!!!
I have a 2007 4runner V6 and I love it😊, I swapped the automatic transfer case to a manual from a fj cruiser, now I love it even more.
I have a white 4th gen. 2007 SR5 so I can’t turn off traction control which sucks. If it was a V8 and didn’t have a sunroof (takes up valuable headroom) I wouldn’t be drooling over a 5th gen. 190,000 miles and I’m thinking of upgrading. Love your 4Runner bro! You were the one who inspired my 30” light bar in the bumper and the Hollywood bike rack
Great video. One year I got a 2006 SR5 for my teen-aged son and daughter, sadly not the V8, but I could not be happier. I shopped and shopped and though I live in TUcson, AZ, I found this one at a small lot in Phoenix. Great condition, only flaw on my inspection was a torn outer CV boot. They knocked $250 off the price, and I got it for $10250 with 180,000 miles. Went through and changed oil, transfer case, and differential fluids. Only problem since has been a light bulb here and there. Could not be happier. Solid Toyota, maintain it well, be happy! Thanks for your videos.
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Been lining my ‘07 since day-1! 210K miles later still loving her!!
Gx470 owner here! Love the V8 4Runners!
I love ❤️ my 5th gen and my V8 4th gen ! Both different beast. I slowly build up my 5th gen T4R to a TRD pro w/o the price tag.
2006 limited v8. LOVE IT! Gonna try n copy your lift soon
Oh wow! You’ve done a lot to it since you’ve got it… I started by watching some of your older videos but it is got to be the nicest 4th Gen 4Runner I’ve seen now.
Thanks for watching!
Nice video! All great points. Love my v8 so much I bought another one! This time I did it right and got a 4x4. I'll be sad to sell the OG runner as I love having them both haha
Good video! I’ve been a Toyota/4Runner/Land Cruiser fan going back to the days before I could drive. My wife is getting a 2013 SR5 premium in a few days, coming on a truck. This is after she fell in love with a 2008 Highlander Sport that met it’s unfortunate end a couple weeks ago in a terrible accident. I think my casual mentions of 4Runners over the years, and pricing comps led her to a 4 Runner! Looking forward to getting behind the wheel of this, to see if a later 5th Gen might be the way I go when it’s time for me to trade in my current SUV. Closest I have came to a 4 runner is a 1990 Pathfinder V6 that I had for a few years in high school/college. That was a fun time!
I have the same 4.7l V8 engine in my GX470. Absolutely love it!
Great video as always bro
Got my 2006 4Runner in Limited V8 4wd for $5800 last year and I think I’m going to keep it forever
Hello my Gen 5 in 2015 was 37k(4x4 SR5) got it for 34k due to LEO(GO PIGS!) discount. Was about to trade for lesser car, my wife said I will take your 4Runner and you can trade in my Accord. So I got a 2017 Sequoia(SR5 4x4) with that 5.7, I think of it as a 4Runner with more room and better engine. Both these vehicles at 105k 4R , Sequoia at 83k are rock solid. Thanks for helping me see the potential in my current autos, 4Runner been paid off for 2 years Sequoia is like 3 payments and she is all mine!!!!
Imagine how well a new 4Runner that looked exactly like the third gen but with a modern interior would sell.
This!
i own both a 4th and 5th gen….both are uniquely special with their features and capabilities.
although both engines are 4l v6, the 5th gen has a revised engine with automatic valve adjustments and dual vvti, while the 4th gen has the easiest oil filter location for service
great video.
I love everything about my 2003 limited and the power of 8, replaced rim with Tacoma, with 240000 miles without any repair or replace main parts, still works like it is not ON, when i stop on red lights, but I am not sure about replace the timming belt , becuse i do not trust any mechanic to touch my car. LOS ANGELES
I have a 05 and it's been awesome and is fully built overlanding rig
I just finished installing Bronze with black lip fuel Covert D696 wheels and just finished Front and Rear Arb Air Lockers for my axles plus on board Dual arb Air Compressor and external air quick couplers and arb front and rear Diff breathers and transmission and transfercase breathers
I totally agree. The only reasons I would want a 5th gen would be the front grill (Still looks sweet) and the offroad features. However, you can add an aftermarket locking diff. to the 4th gen and still have the luscious V8.
That's what I did with my 2007 v8 salsa red sport edition 4th gen put arb Air lockers front and rear with dual arb compressor and air tank external bumper Air couplers
V8 with e locker 4Runner for me !
@@roypoomiwatracanont7762 okay
The 4L V6 is the reason to buy a 5th gen--it's a really bulletproof engine
It’s been a long time coming Tim… somebody had to make a video like this. I’m glad that you took the step forward and made it! To me, the 5th gen interior feels a bit cramped and smaller although nicer and with better materials. Still, I love the simplicity and durability the 4gen interior offers. Wouldn’t change my 06 SR5 V6 for nothing (maybe a New Defender 2door with a V8, but that’s it) 😂 great video, as always!
I've had both and you are full of it. 4th way more cramped, quit lying
I love my 2004 V8 4runner. 238,000 miles and still going!
I’ve driven many 4Runners. I’d say get the one you like the most and the one that fits your budget.
Just got an 03 v8 for $4400 in July and we love it. Plenty of features and nice touches (sport edition), 19-20 mpg, only some rust, 210k but in good condition.
How are you getting 19-20mpg lmao I'm barely pushing 17
Heck, my v6 barely gets 17.
He's not getting that mileage IMHO. You cant trust the trip odometer / MPG computer info. If that is actual miles divided by actual gallons of gas, I would be shocked. They just don't get that mileage, period. I have a 2006 with V6, one size larger than factory tires. Trip computer shows with careful driving about 18 mpg; pen and paper math at the gas pump is closer to 16.
Your 4 gen looks awesome!
Great video and I’ve heard good things abut the 4.7L V8 from more than a few people and it’s making me consider that over the 4.0L V6.
No one ever seems to mention that the 4th Gen V6 comes with selective mode four wheel drive. It is not offered in the 5th Gen in the US. I appreciate being able to use AWD in variable onroad conditions (i.e. spots of ice and snow) but still retain rear wheel drive for better gas mileage and wear. I especially find low range AWD for maneuring my travel trailer into campspots!
Yup. That right there. Could not have said that better myself.
What do you mean? The 5th gens come with selective 4WD. You can select to go into 4WD or stay in 2WD. The only 5th gen that doesn’t have that are the 2x4 ‘s and the limited that comes with full time 4WD
@@randyshein1453 4th gen v6's have a selection of:
2wd, AWD high (4wd open t-case), 4wd high (50\50 locked center diff), 4wd low AWD (open t-case) and 4wd low (50\50 locked t-case).
5th gen's, excluding Limited, has: 2wd, 4wd high (50\50 locked center diff), and 4wd low (50\50 locked center diff).
The beauty of the Selective Mode t-case is the ability to switch into AWD (under 50ish mph) on the fly under slippery conditions. Think of it like the opposite of how a typical Subaru AWD system works. Instead of a front biased AWD system (Subaru), the 4th gen 4runner Select Mode t-case allows for a REAR biased AWD system. The only 5th gen 4runner that comes close to this anymore is the Limited version.
That is what @billthompson301 was getting at. All 4th gen V6's come this way.
And besides slippery road conditions that @billthompson301 mentioned, which I have used consistantly every winter so close to the Sierra Nevada's, I personally use it for corrugated\chewed up graded hill climbs when off road. Having a small portion of the power to the front wheels pulling while the rears push is awesome.
I owned a 4th gen for 8 years and a 5th gen for 3 years. 5th gen is much better in almost every way except for not having a v8. Although I drive slow so to me it don't matter lol.
We had the 4 the gen, great truck!a little small for us but I liked it.
I have. 2005 4RUNNER V8 LIMITED 4WD 158,000 miles and love it
Awesome 4th gens. I have a 2007 black limited 4wd with only 98k miles. Smooth and comfy
LOVE my 2009 V8, would never dream of “trading up”
Nicely done on your 4 runner
Thanks!
I was in the same boat. Shopping to replace my 4th gen. The non-limited 5th gens also lost auto climate control and the center locking diff. Which I like for snowing hwy driving. I ended up going with a Lexus GX, but I miss my 4th gen!
Good stuff sir.
I have a 2017 4Runner it's a 5th Gen but its paid off I love it! Gone so many places with it . I am glad I for rid of that jeeo I had
So glad I got rid of my Jeep too!
Great video! For me though, I never did care for the style of the 4th Gen. I prefer my 3rd gen over the 4th Gen any day. I was able to pick up a used 2015 5th gen 4Runner used for $22k with only 87k miles. Just last year, I couldn’t resist a deal and I was able to pick up a 06’ Lexus GX470 for $11k and it has 167k miles. The dollars mentioned is American dollars as I live here in Hawaii. Keep up the great content!🤙🏻
3rd gen is and probably always will be the best looking. I hated the ABS in mine though, and they aren't very safe by today's standards. Still a sweet SUV but its definitely a classic vehicle at this point
3rd gen and 5th gens have way more upgrade options vs the 4th gen bumpers are harder to find for 4th gens I do have to admit the 5th gen interiors are sweet but I have the Sport Edition With my 4th gen I think it looks good
I have an 08 V8 4X4 sport and I like the way the V8 drives more then the new ones. I don't like how the window switches are so high, as I normally put my left arm on there. I also appreciate the soft close rear hatch, but that's pretty minor. The new ones are really nice too but if I was going to get a new one I think I'll just wait until it's actually modernized with the 6th gen. As of now I'd just be going from old truck to slightly newer old truck, which losing the main thing I like about the old one.
I have the 2005 V8 sport model. Love it.
If I could afford either, I would get the 4th gen because of the TorSen center diff
My 4th gen has an ARB rear air locker. So there's always support for your needs.
I love my 2007 v8. 250 thousand miles and running like a dream. Sanding it down right now and going to paint with tractor paint with a roller and brush. Would not trade my ride for a 2023 4Runner. The build I have on mine would cost 15-20 thousand more to have equivalent to mine and it would still have a v6.
I had a 1st gen 03 Tacoma, then got a 13' Forester. Looking to get a 4th gen next vehicle after seeing prices for a 5th gen.
You know what you've got hang on to it as long as you can.
Great video. I live in North East Ontario, and unfortunately, almost every 4x4 truck or SUV has the tar beat out of it. Unless you know the old timers that originally bought it, well, good luck.
I love my Lunar Rock TRD Pro 4Runner!!
I spent 7k on my AWD V8 140k miles now pushing 170 k . Best vehicle .
I feel like comparing the trd pro is a terrible comparison. But good video and solid point
Love that grill.
I installed Doug Thorley long headers on my 05 V8 4X4 limited because I didn’t want to replaced exhaust manifold again.
I think the sweet spot for a used 4Runner is a 2018 & 2019 (esp Limited trim with Full-Time 4wd.. essential for those in northern climates). It’s only a few years old so you’ll have leas repairs to deal with than older units. Love these 4th gen v8’s tho.. ❤
Full time 4wd is not an essential feature for those living in northern climates. Never has been and never will be....
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. 4.7 V8 will go a million mikes if you take care of it, my 2003 4Runner has 325,000 miles, the vehicle will out live me.
I have a 2016 trail edition with KDSS and I love it too bits. Yes yous is nice to, but the 5th gens frame has been beefed up more plus the rear diff is larger, with multi terrain select, kdss, locking rear diff and a few more features, it's know wonder why it's more expensive. As I said, you do have a beautiful 4runner, but I could say that it was the trail edition that started all the hype over the TRD pro and off road. Either way, we're proud to own them.
Can't say that I agree with KDSS and a locking rear diff making it worth double the price lol
Great video! What is the size of the rims and wheels you used? Do you have a video when did an upgrade? Thanks
You can ADD a Diff locker--- the FJ cruixer 2010 diff locker will bolt in directly..
The gas guzzling nature of the older ones makes me wanna buy the new hybrid one
What is your tire size ,? 3 in lift ? have you had any rubbings the tires. looks really amazing brother !!!
5th gen hold their value like crazy 200,000 miles and proably sell it for like 20k-25k! Depends on mods
as a 5th gen trail premium owner im glad i got one and wouldnt trade it despite the price, however i still want a 4th gen V8 they are badass and cheapish.
4th Gen is an absolute beast and is an amazing car. If you can get one do it.
Any suggestions as to which shocks I can buy to replace the stock ones on my 2014 ? I was thinking, adn everyone suggests Bilstien 4600's but ive noticed theres a shortage. Was thinking maybe KYB's for a smoother daily ride. I do not have 4x4.
The 2UZ V8 found in the Land Cruiser and 4th gen is Toyota royalty. Stemmed from a generation where they produced some of their most legendary engines (2Zz, 1UZ and of course, the 2JZ). If you find a 4th gen with a solid frame/only surface rust...get it. They will only get harder to find
Totally agree
I have an 05 SR5 v8. I loved it from the day I got it. Only 168,000 on it, at 65 years old I was hoping it’s the last vehicle I’d need. The roar of the exhaust and mud tires was better than the radio. Unfortunately,my truck got cancer. Surface rust turned fatal on the frame. Heartbreaking 😢, it’s unsafe to drive and I can only sell it for parts. I just got a 2019 4Runner and it’s by far the nicest vehicle I’ve ever had. 60,000 miles $27,000. I swore I’d never spend that kind of money, but what you gonna do. Get a trailblazer or Bronco? Don’t think so
The v6 4.0 did change a bit in 2010, and it is tuned different in the 5th gen 4runner. The 5th gen also weighs about 500#s more. The v6 4th gen feels quick compared to a 5th gen, and it is faster to 60... Now a fj even feels quicker due to weight, and even that isn't fast haha. Love my 08 v6.
I don't think anyone is buying a 4runner (regardless of gen) for how "quick" it is.
Thank you I was hoping someone would mention this. Also we have an fj and it’s pretty peppy compared to our other vehicles it reminds me very much of my brothers 06 Honda civic in terms of acceleration and handling
@@fredmagic09 I never said they were actually quick, I said compared to each other one feels quicker than the other, and they actually are, to each other. The 5th Gen is tuned for more efficiency in general, which the 4runner is also not.
The main difference between the 03-09 1GR and the 2010-present 1GR is the old one is only vvti on the intake cams. The new one is vvti on both intake and exhaust cams. Plus different tuning for a bit more HP and TQ but overall the 1GR and the A750F/E is practically the same for both gens.
Did you type “#s” instead of “lbs”?
You're correct about the sticker shock. Two and a half years ago, I purchased a 5th Gen.
2017 Toyota 4 Runner TRD off road $46K (Laughs hysterically) 😂
If I could have found a 4th Gen that looks like yours, then absolutely I would have skipped the 5th Gen. However, the 5th Gen is worth every penny
Hey Tim, great summary of why I bought a 2007 Limited V8 with a 3" lift and 32's from Florida. NO RUST, for less than $17k. Have you undercoated yours? I'm in Minnesota so I protected it with Surface Shield by Blaster. I have not started adding accessories yet, but as the budget allows, I will be building out a car-camping "overlanding" platform. Frankly, it is sufficient as-is with a basic roof rack to carry what won't fit inside. 👊
I try to get mine oil sprayed every winter
Well the 5th gen 4runner was my dream truck, so I bought a base used 2015 SR5 4runner for around 22k but I put my own mods on it and I made it better than that ridiculous 70k TRDpro. On the interior, I added leather seats with heating, new screen, cup holders, carbon fiber trimming, led lights etc. On the exterior, I did a 4 inch lift kit, all new EMU suspension and a custom wide body sitting on ko2 285's with blacked out rays rims. All new led lights, KC lights, marker lights and all... Basically the mods cost like 8k, but still for 30k I got something better than a 70k TRDpro in my book. Soon I'm gonna add that ladder, roof storage and probably delete the plastic rear bumper and put an overland metal one, same with the front. I only did a viper cut up front, but I might put a metal high overland bumper up there.
There's definitely a lot of value in modding an older 5th gen than buying a new Pro!
They both great vehicles but if I have to choose one its gona be the 5th gen it look better just my opinion
I average 17 mi to the gallon with V8. I added built in blue tooth to my stock Toyota JBL nav head unit. No car play, I don't use it anyway, but flaw streaming and hands free calling.
I currently own a 5th gen, and it's great, don't get me wrong even as a plain Jane SR5, but man I miss my 4th too. 5th is better for long highway trips in my opinion but the 4th is quicker off the line and handles better for daily driving.
I think the answer is both 😅 I'll be getting another 4th at some point!
So get the 4th Gen because my lady has a V8 that makes Audi Q5s feel like crap.
Could always put a rear locker in the 4th gen later! I'd like to do it to mine.
I’ve always loved the 3rd and 5th gens and skipped over the 4th in terms of interest but man lately I’ve been really moving in their direction especially with the availability of a V8
Hey! I get you! I love my 2006 4 Runner with the V8. It has taken me through snow where others could not go. Here in the US I'm looking at an ARB bumper ($1700 US). Is there anything comparable in Canada?
Get after market black out headlights! I like the ones with Halo Light Rings. Old Chrome clashes with the dark grey.
I just put a deposit on a 2024 pro in underground. 56k no markups or bs add ons. Given the garbage being built and sold today I feel 56k is not terrible, not great but I’m ok with it, no choice. They are all incredible but I love the 5th gen.
I have a 2008 v6 limeted My and it has locking rear diff. I know some don't but I think the limiteds do.
Hi. Anyone recommend what’s the best place to find used vehicles these days. It’s been awhile. Thanks.
I just purchased a 2008 sport edition 4runner. I have questions about why my suspension seems wobbly but drive mostly straight
I own 2, 4th gens with the V8 and the 2023 40th anniversary. I have to agree that the older ones (2005) are better for me.
I’ve owned an 07 Sport and now on my 2nd ‘15 Trail. Had my 07 and previous 15 get totaled by careless drivers within the last 2 year.
Small observations: 4th gen has better visor design but the 4th gen has inferior climate controls. I didn’t like the actual controls and the center vent was positioned in a way that it hit me in the hand. Much improved in the 5th.
Low mileage, clean, less rusty 4th gens are in the $20K range in the states. Less rust is one reason to but later models but also NEVER buy anything driven up north. I’m in the south.
But yea, 4th gens are a great value!
Yeah 4th gen has very small content on youtube me and you and 10 or so other people that I know of that continues to post 4th gen content
What's the identify 4th jeans with the V8 only have full-time four-wheel drive with no rear Locker only a center Locker? Also dose the 4th gen have atrac? If so that's basically just as good as crawl control
I love my 4th gen I got it two weeks ago for 7800 and with 122k miles on it I knew it was a steal so I couldn’t let it go, I can’t afford to get a lift kit on it just yet but I hate the soccer mom tires on it right now lol that being said what good looking all terrain tires would you suggest for a stock 4th gen?