Pop Singers VS Metal Singers
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This was the first video on this series and actually one of the first videos I ever made, I head your comments about not being fair presenting studio albums and stuff so here I made a revisited video you can see it here czcams.com/video/ku2sbhD1BKA/video.html
How dare you
Her diction and annunciation is just incredible
What the opening son with the guy on the guitar
Sees clickbait
Ariana Grande
Lady Gaga.
Rlly? They both actually outstanding good🤪
@@Chr1sROCKT no
Can't find any humiliation here, all solid performances by outstanding women in their respective genres, doesn't matter if they sing pop, opera style symphonic metal, or scream their lungs out, if they got the pipes, they're all queens in my book
Except Nikki Minaj. She was lip synching
You go simp 😂
@@michaeldormehl5128 no, you go sexist
@@arrolate how’s that sexist lol, it shows women from metal and pop, gender has nothing to do with it
@@funeyshoot2843 what are you talking about?
There are amazing talented singers in every genre!!
Hey Floor, it's you O.o
Floor, you are without doubt one of the most amazing singers I’ve heard in my life. You are right though, whether you like the style or not it’s a separate issue, but there are talented singers everywhere.
Especially when they're doing live performances
:O but you are the best lol
Word! If metalheads wish to gain respect, the first step is to respect others. Even if we didn't wish to gain anything, we should respect others. They, too, are only human. And a lot of other-genre-artists are fantastic in their art!
I'd honestly like to see these ladies sing together. They all have great voices!
Katy Perry is a horrible singer.
It's a shame how society doesn't acknowledge how much power and skill it takes to sing metal. Metal isn't clean and it isn't simple as using a clean organic voice in this case. My respect to metal vocalist, especially the women in that industry
It does help that some of these metal singers have been in music shows on television to show off their skills on different genres. Some of the clips were from a couple of those shows. Don't ask me which shows, I only get such information from my mom. I hate 101% of the songs they choose for such shows.
I would love to see it reversed though, to see Ariane Grande, Lady Gaga and Adele sing metal. I bet they and a lot more pop singers would be amazing at it. And who knows, maybe they love it :D
As someone who's sang metal songs before, this is accurate
This is factually accurate, when heard jinjer for the first time live my respect level went from a 10 to a 50.
Tatiana Shmayluk can sing with any pop singer..... any and I would put money on that.
@@air9710how sore was you after your first gig 🤣🤣🤣 i lost my voice and damaged my windpipe. I cant yell anymore because i just start coughing 🤣🤣🤣 i tried man..
@@stylis666 One of the shows was beste zangers where a bunch of Dutch singers come together and sing each other´s songs or songs that mean a lot to them. Floor sang Shallow for a cover artist but two singers on that show actually tackled a Nightwish song, Tim Akkerman with Nemo and Samantha Steenwijk did and translated Our Decades In The Sun.
As a metal fan I would not call this “humiliated”; it is a matter of personal preference.
You are either not a metalhead or trying so hard to have a fair opinion. You came across as a pretentious person. Be honest with yourself, this is not even a comparison; This is straight up slauther. Humiliation is even a nice word for pop shits.
@@captainfantastic3490 A lot of metal singers are indeed top tier talent. They have such strong and powerful vocals. But to say rock singers humiliate pop singers is just not true. Both genres have top tier talent, average talent, and some that are just grasping for fame. Christina A, Adele, Lady Gaga, and Morrisette Amon are all phenomenal talents within their own genre. Even if you don't like the music, respect for the vocal ability should be a given for any true music fan.
@@drae_gon1369 "Phenomenal singers". You are out of your mind. Metal Singers are in another level and they straight up humiliated pop shits.
@Marie Libra I never said that singing in metal automatically makes a singer better. for example Elize Ryde is meh, She's average. but Metal singers in general have been better since 60s. They've been better in out time and they are in another level. We don't know what will happen in future. Dimash is talented tho but he needs to get better.
@@captainfantastic3490 The ones i listed are "pop shits"? Your close mindedness and lack of perception for musical ability or talent is plainly visible for all to see. Your opinion is exactly that just opinion...
Female metal singers are often underestimated. In fact, they often come with completely insane and powerful vocals. Anyway, this isn't about humiliation to the pop singers. It's a compilation of singers with great vocal abilities. 🤘🏻
yes it is and the po(o)p singers are not half as good as their Metal counterladies,HA!
that's because Metal is more advanced and goes way more in depth than pop does.
Female drummers are the underestimated ones
Wonderfully said Mac.
Male pop vs metal would murder them
I wouldn't call it a humiliation. They all sing super well, it's amazing and I love it.
I'm 100% metal and only like 1% into pop, but still respect goes where respect is due.
Not a pop fan by any means but lady gaga is truly talented. She has a really great range and awesome vocals
and she can sing classic rock pretty well, beside jazz etc, really talented as a singer!
floor
That's exactly how I feel about Ariana Grande. That girl has pipes!! Lady Gaga is a badass too. I'm not a big pop music guy either, but a few of these ladies have real talent.
@@michaelbannan9972 she is a horrible person
@@richardbissell6909 What makes you say that?
I’ve been a metal fan for decades, was in a metal band for a good part of the 80s. Objectively, I didn’t see any “embarrassment”. Dissing fricken Adele is every bit as ignorant as mainstream normies dismissing someone like Floor.
Genre fanboyism is idiotic.
“All aspects of music are valid…..”
- Glenn Tipton
Judas Priest
Yeah, adding Adele was nonsense. Fil (Wings of Pegasus) just did a voice comparison of Floor with Autotune. Floor wins hands down!
its not about genre fanboyism, its about fake (pop) versus music with substance (rock) and I am not even a fan of rock , I just like any music that has substance and I hate music that is designed purely to rob kids of their pocket money. Can u name 3 decent pop songs from the last decade that have even a little substance? No, I didnt' think so, neither can I.
@@juanmanu9652 The entire Taylor Swift Folklore album?
@@juanmanu9652 cringe
very well put, highly accurate.im not aware of "floor" but will look since you have given this eclectic fan of every great voice i can find a reason to look.
The transition from "hear me roar" to Arch Enemy's actual roar was just epic 😂😂
angela in nemesis would have been the best jhahahahah
Haha yeah the put a smile on my face 😄
Grande is actually very talented. And her range is incredible. So is lady gaga. Not sure what this video is about- they’re all fantastic at their art
Thinking hes showing the best of both sides.
Does your mom know you're gay?
ariana sing like cat been r@pe by an horse.... and very lame bubble pop with polish. metal female are way badass and high complex vibrato notes
@@Drekt666 With the words "Pop artists humiliated"in the thumbnail, he sure as h*ll wasn't trying to show the best of both sides.
@@MrGul idk, if he really wanted to humiliate the pop artists, he would have shown that one time Christina Aguilera did the national anthem instead of her killing it singing Ave Maria. And when Ariana Grande was singing at the VMAs and her earpiece died, so she couldn't hear the music to keep rhythm. That time Adele was singing someone else's song by her audience's request and forgot the words. There were a lot of chances to show actual embarrassing performances; I think he gave them a fair shot.
I think they all have beautiful voices in their own ways. I love them both.
As a metalhead, I didn’t see any humiliation except for the transition from Katy Perry to Alissa White-Gluz. Everyone else had great vocal range, but female metal singers are often underrated, underestimated and under appreciated. There’s a lot of female metal singers who can roar/growl just as good as the men do, in some cases even better. Obviously pop is a much more popular genre and a metric fuck ton more people are gonna listen to it, but metal has been, still is and probably always will be one of the most under appreciated music genres in existence
No for sure, everyone here was pretty much just as good. The metal artists were just a little gooder...
metal is still better
You aren't a metal head , you are a wanna be.
Tarja for example sings classical....and metal.. That says it all .
The only pop artist that could sing really good especially when he was young was Sakis Rouvas listen the song Mia fora.
Cu.
@@kafrikotroll8610 It's not that hard to be able to sing classical and metal.
that's bcos pop is people's generic musik nowadays.
pop singers are great
but metal singers are versatile.
pop can only do clean.
metals can do clean & roar.
I love Metal with my life, but Adele has a great voice, she is a great artist and a great person. No need to compare Adele
she is now very weak though, avoids many high notes and sings in a lower register than most of her popular songs
Beyoncé is a better vocalist than Adele... Idk why people are bringing up Adele as if she's the face of pop music vocals... Adle has an amazing voice & has amazing music but she's become overrated now for her vocals... She has a distinctive voice but she's a B+ rated vocalist Whereas Beyoncé is a Star rated vocalist ... Many music critics around the globe consider Beyoncé as the best vocalist in R&B genre.
@@Azarath_Metrion_Zinthos Beyonce sucks
IT WILL BE GREAT WHEN ADELLE SING A METAL SONG
Coming from a lifelong metal fan, much respect to ALL the ladies here 🫡
Adele must be recognized that she has a great voice, both live and in the studio...
Metal genres are everything to me, but I can easily appreciate other music genres and talents all the same. I don’t see any humiliation.
Just homage to each style of music.
Look for Diana Damrau - Magic Flute. That's fucking humiliating...
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My only issue was Lady Gaga. She's a great singer but why did it seen like she was trying to keep her lips looking pouty the whole time? It also looked like she was afraid of her top and bottom lip touching
I think it was just paying homage to metal singers because they definitely are underrated
Lady Gaga is actually a huge metal fan. She's a huge Iron Maiden fan. I actually can see Maidens influence in her live gigs and album art. Lady Gaga was asked if she thinks of herself as the next Madonna. She said no. I want to be the next Iron Maiden. To have the passionate fans Maiden has, she wants that.
And she did a solid live duet with Metallica at the Grammys a few years ago! I'm a fan of both, so seeing/hearing a duet like that was MIND BLOWING. 🤘
@@HJ-kf7zn yea I'm sure metallica liked being set up with no power,lol
@@phantoms-yy5jv Check it out the dress rehearsel from Moth into flame with Lady Gaga. It has the correct mix and is awesome compaired to the broadcasted one. :)
@@Wulfen666 no thanks, don't like hearing singers that lip sync and cheat ppl out of hard earned money 🤷
@@phantoms-yy5jv hahaha very true mate, metal forever.
0:23 what an amazing vocal range
Metal all day! Never doubted it.
Putting Floor Jansen against ANYBODY is just unfair competition.
Amen, my cow bro. Amen. Or is that a yak? I know my cows, that image is very small and hard to make out. It's wrecking my ability to make bad puns and dad jokes.
Two cows walk into a bar. The first says Moo. The seconds also says Moo. The bartender says... Not sure what I expected.
Dadman... AWAY!
She is a living perfection. Im not a simp, fyi. Just a raw fact. Among all female singers, there is Floor Jansen and the others.
You misspelled Tarja
I agree
Amén, tan solo escuchar ave María con c. Aguilera es como escuchar a Rob Schneider
I mean.. Eh? I'm a metal fan, and the examples they picked are very specific examples of a niche genre of metal. To pretend that all metal singers are operatic is ludicrous.
Well there's Alisa and she can sing in her regular voice and in death metal too
I wouldn't even call most of them "metal" singers because I could actually hear the words 🤣
@@aaroniousairlines9949 No there is tons of metal that has clean singing.
@@darthvader4339 nah, metal is just screaming
@@nobodyofknowhere973 How if traditional heavy metal, power metal, hair metal/glam metal, thrash metal, snd symphonic metal all have clean singing.
Floor Jansen is incredible ,her performance with nightwish ,on the song " Ghost Love score" is Brutal!
You gotta remember floor is also a classical opera kinda singer as well as a metal singer, which makes her special
And Tarja Turunen of course too
Howard Jones of Killswitch Engage was classically trained too, but still ended up in a metal band. 🤟
You're comparing symphonic metal vocalists, many of them trained classical singers, to pop singers. It's apples and oranges. Even so, Christina Aguilera, Ariana Grande both have 4+ octave vocal ranges and have performed in a variety of styles, not unlike Floor or Tarja. They are extremely well versed in phrasing, improvisation, tone, and texture, quite likely more so than the somewhat more limited expression range (at least in published works) of most symphonic metal singers. Don't get me wrong, most of these ladies are absolutely amazing performers (not sure about Nicki Minaj or Katy Perry,) but they are too different to be compared, and even if they could be, I would think twice before ruling either way.
In metal, the sound has to be loud and dramatic!
Jinjer - perennial live
@asdas saddasd I think you missed the point of these metal singers. People who enjoy pop mostly just enjoy the vibe of it. Metal fans are very detail and techichnal oriented people. Each and every vocal note is percise and flawless. While the pop divas just don't have the talent and sheer training for it. It's very much a different stage of music.
@@landensummitt909 i think you miss the point
@asdas saddasd I didn't say they have no talent. I love singers like Pink, Adele, and Aguilera. The issue is the trend in modern music itself. The reliance of auto tune and voice modification completely ruines the natural beauty in voices.
Have to say this but Christina Aguilera is actually a killer singer. She's just totally in the wrong genre.
Can say the same about Miley Cyrus. Never cared for her in pop, especially in her 'acting out' years, but her rock and country covers she's done are really good. She should have been a front woman for a band.
same with gaga
@@Soulbreeze Totally. Her cover of Don't Dream It's Over (with Ariana Grande) is one of my favorite cover songs ever made.
I totally agree. Christina has sung rock songs, and in those cases, she has been outstanding.
Entrophany I have thought that many times! If Christina focused on making great music instead of pop that would sell records she’d be the voice of a generation. Commercial music limited her. That’s what I think anyway 🤷♂️
Every artist in this video is rally great. The difference is that with metal you need to have a really strong control of your voice.
They are all great singers with different techniques, no humiliation sensed
This whole “pop bad/ metal compared to pop” view has just gotten so cringe over the years
I agree man, so much bitter fans cause pop is mainstream
True, even though I dislike pop a fuckin’ ton’ I think we should at least end these comparing shit videos and just get along or whatever
@@reese8050 no I can’t stand the mainstream but it’s like a guy still making Justin Bieber jokes
@@ihateweezer7222 Lol I remember all those "Justin Bieber is gay" jokes from metalheads when the dude was banging all his groupies and their moms.
Elitist are always cringe
I dont want to disrespect other artists but every singer has their own technique to perform their music. Hence, why there are different genres that fits their style and fashion. Adele, Floor, Tarja, Gaga, they're all super talented singers.
Gaga don't belong there she is performer more than singer compared to other 3 she have average voice
But Floor floors them all 😁😛... she can literally sing anything even better than original... I can dare say that her cover of Whitney Houston's iconic "I will always love you" will be better than the original..
@@heavymetal116 I mean, I will always love you isn’t from Whitney Housten either, because the original is from Dolly Parton.
@@dalia1598 Still light years better than Billie Mumble fans..
@@heavymetal116 exept floor can't sing nemo or wishmaster or wunderlust or Sacrament of Wilderness or sleeping sun or she is my sin etc like tarja :) don't get me wrong i love floor but you floor fan boys and girls are ruining nightwish with you bullshit so pls stop.
All of them are amazing. They have beautiful voices in their own style. Diversity gives us lots of musical surprises! ❤
My Two Fav Music Genres: METAL & POP ✨
As a metalhead for the last 30 years (and counting), i can't agree with this video at all.
Can't see any humiliation, here, just different genres.
agreed
Using the word "humiliated" is precisely why metal can get a bad rep. Gatekeeping and being condescending just makes everyone look bad.
Luckily this doesn't happen inside the metal scene... Oh, wait... Yes, I listen to Metal and go to concerts and festivals. No, I'm not the angry looking guy in the back who is too true for the pit...
Yeah, this video and others like it are pretty stupid. The comparisons are nonsensical at best.
_Thank you_
Definitely this. Also, cherry picking clips of live pop vocal performances which don't represent the singers' full capabilities, then putting those against the best examples of the metal singers, is a pretty low thing to do.
I'm an old school rock fan. Love all kinds of music. I saw no humiliation. I've actually come to respect Lady Gaga.
Floor Jansen has always been my favorite female vocalist
Very unfair to compare these 2 extremely different genres, I'm 100% a metal fan, but Adeles vocal range is fantastic and if she wanted to she could easily take to singing in a metal band but she has no need to, she's at the top of her game and is hugely successful with the music she makes, not bad for a down to earth, working glass girl from Tottenham is it really.
here here !!
And i wouldnt really consider adele a “pop” star. She leans more towards soul music. Not everyone in the mainstream arent pop artists
Adele is definitly an amazing vocalist
though with floor jansen genre dont matter she does them all excellently
Adele is miserable and depressing, overplayed and she won't perform live
Honestly, my least favourite aspect of metal-fandom is always the over-emphasis placed on technical proficiency.. and I love heavy music.
Sure it's "impressive" and all, but the most technical, mindbogglingly virtuosic performances can still leave the listener bored or fall completely flat for one simple reason: music/art is not a meritocracy.
Music as an art form is not about admiring skill, it is about conveying emotion.
Make. Me. Feel. Something!
Make me choke up and try to hold back tears.
Yes, metal often brings with it a wide range of dynamics and can convey a huge breadth of emotion.. but it isn't automatic, and it has nothing to do with technical-ability or skill. I've been brought to tears or given chills by nothing but a simple acoustic-guitar / piano part and an honest/raw vocal performance. Sometimes just by an instrumental.
Technical ability and virtuosity are only worth anything if they serve the song, and the emotional intent of the music.. otherwise it's just a long way to go to show off.
/rant.
Not every musician writes a piece yo convey an emotion or story or message. Sometimes people write a song just because they like a particular sound they can make with an instrument. That's actually the origin of the Pink Floyd song "Echoes", a new piece of equipment created a different reverb with an electric guitar and a song was written around incorporating that sound
@@stevennagy6341 It's kind of the same thing. A person likes a particular sound because it creates a certain positive feeling inside of themselves. That pretty much describes what an emotion is fairly well don't you think? An emotion isn't just love, joy, sadness, grief, peace, fear, gratitude, appreciation etc. It is really any positive or negative feeling someone has. So when you like a particular sound it creates a feeling of pleasure.
Yeah this is why I can't listen to Steve Vai or Engwe Maulmstein for too long.
They are undoubtedly two of the most technically proficient guitarists in the game, but listening to constant 'Widdling' gets boring quickly, they both suck as song-writers, in my opinion.
In my opinion that is how usually Metal convey their emotions, loud drumming as if they are having a mental breakdown and some gibberish loud screaming, I just fucking love it
But THERE are Metal songs out there that I sure do not like as well, because they are too consistent with their hardcoreness
I usually like it when there is just at least a calming part in a metal song then it just bursts out to some intense shits, that way the listener cannot get bored....
But I do listen to Bands whose songs are just full on hardcore, like Xavleg or Infant Annihilator, Converge, etc
But that is because their screams are my favorite types of scream
The thing I do not like about pop is that they cannot do things like that, things that give you a mental breakdown and just headbang to let all the stress out
Pop is just..slow, people can cry over their songs but...it’s just not as intense as I want it to be, y’know?
But don’t get me wrong dude, I listen to shit like Muse and I love them, I like their melancholic rock kind of style, I dig it
But usually from pop I just...I dunno
What I’m saying here is that Metal is not all about skill, that is just how they convey their emotions
Metal is all about energy, and if they deliver their emotions, they deliver it strong
I guess same goes with pop, but, uh..
Yeah..just don’t dig it
But I do understand why pop listeners dislike Metal, because it’s got “no melody” and all that
But...whatever, chaos is my music
Music is great melodies being put together to make a sound you enjoy listening to. Talking about emotions and crap is just as bad as talking about technique being everything.
When it comes to look/beauty pop singers won, but when it comes to talent rock/metal singers won.
GAH such a great line-up of metal ladies! I've seen Epica play live as well! That girl can SING! 😍
My dude! Check out Howard Jones from Killswitch Engage! 😩
Tbh none of them are actually bad, their voices just all serve different purposes
Metal singers are in another level, Admit it.
Captain Fantastic Sorry but not really, as much as I love our metal ladies. Ariana Grande is actually a thousand years better than Simone Simons from Epica, Simone isn’t as terrible as some people try to make her look like, but Simone doesn’t have a very good live technique, doing metal does not make anyone superior on any level.
@@leonelvargas6001 you are a new and casual epica listener. Simone is better than that kid anyday.
Captain Fantastic LMAO I’m definitely not, I’ve known Epica and Symphonic Metal in general since 2007 and I have seem them live 6 times. Simone has not get ant better from where she was in 2007-08, Ariana is barely a kid, I don’t even listen to her music but she has a lot of time to improve and become even better, musical genre has nothing to do with quality, but most metalheads didn’t grow up from their high school years to understand that.
@@leonelvargas6001 Metal singers are better in our time. They've been better since 60s. Dimash is talented though but he needs to get better.
Just one word....Floor
Floor's great. I tend to prefer another word, Tarja
Watch a floor video. Easy.
From the metal side, Floor, Tarja and Simone :P IMHO
From the pop side, only one: Adele
@@AngelesBustamanteM
Adele is far from the best in pop. She is overrated as a vocalist. People think she is a good singer only because she sings ballads and that makes her stand out in the pop industry. People like Beyoncé, Pink, Kelly Clarkson, Jennifer Hudson, Lady Gaga, etc. eat her up vocally. I'm not saying Adele is bad, but she's far from the best singer in pop. Her vocal range is very limited and her technique is not the best either. She tends to sing with a lot of restriction and adds strain on her vocal chords.
@@AngelesBustamanteM I add Saron Den Adel to the metal side even since she didn't had professional training, and on the pop side its just Morissette Amon actually.
Metal singers often have classical music training background or opera background and opera is also not very often listened to or uppreciated but hopfully it can be more appreciated if more metal singers cross over and bring their voices into the mainstream. All genres should be heard on mainstreaming services
Não vejo humilhação, ambas cantam bem e agradam o público que lhes convém.
E muita humilhação cantoras pop e tudo bunda mole..alissia destrói todas. . E como se fosse anitta pop bosta atrás de bosta...po isso não vai pra frente.. alissia tem minha admiração brabas demais..chegou pelo talento sem balança nada ou beleza..olha a voz brutal dela.
@@RafaMoares Pensamento infantil.
I wouldn't say that Lady Gaga was humiliated. Unlike many other pop singers, she is a great musician. She actually studied music and has a profound knowledge of music theory. Don't forget that she is the composer of Shallow.
does shallow have any key changes or is it diatonic? seriously interested as a well composed song will have at ln the very least, one key change. remember youre talking composition here, not style. i hope it does have one, shes talented but there are levels. its like calling ed sheeran great. no, he just uses the same chord formula in a different key and writes lyrics people relate to. if youre talking composer then j.s. bach is the god tier, we are all below him but these pop artists cant touch the sides. even if they wanted to, the industry wouldnt allow it, hence it is puppet music.
Amy lee from evanescence enters the chat just to play classical piano and soar with her vocals without studying singing at all :)
@@terrybanks5063 you're forgetting Tuomas Holopainen from nightwish , just listen to "the greatest show on earth" you have to be verry close to Bach if you want to compose that kind of song. Or sleeping sun.
There are not many of song writers Who can Write or even compose such sungs i think Lady Gaga is good in her genre(her genre is verry wide) but you can never compare metal with pop .
The thing with Floor, Tarja and Simone is that they're all classically trained, and you can HEAR it.
And to think, symphonic metal is still just taking form. The future is bright (or dark, depending on how you want to look at it).
Charlotte
Anneke
Sharon (self taught!)
Tarja and Simone yes, but Floor does not use an actual classical singing technique, it's rather musical-theater-ish
It takes more than being classically trained. It also takes the talent to create the songs that use the vocal styles that will impress people. For instance, Star Search showed that Britney Spears could sing well, but no songs were written for her to showcase that talent.
@@belindamelissa8801 It still is classical, just not operatic (yes there is a difference). BTW, Simone is even further from opera than floor is.
Las cantantes de rock me colocan la piel de gallina con sus voces... Las amo
Lady Gaga and Adele would make great metal vocalists. Aguilera too, although I’m not too familiar with her modern work. And then there’s Miley Cyrus, she has a voice made for rock music.
I am a metal fan since I was a kid, but no one can humiliate Adele.
true
what he said
Or Ariana, she has great vocals.
@@al.s.3277 Even not a female singer can easily take down Adèle : just Brent Smith sang " someone like you " far better than her lol
or Lady ga ga
There’s a simple explanation for this:
Pop tends to attract divas who want attention. Metal tends to attract artists who love what they do 🤷♂️
U can see it the style of writing the music. Pop music lays the focus on the focals where in metal a vocalist has to "fight" to be heard above the guitars drums and base. And ofc all the other instruments used
And of course, so many pop singers don't even write their own music unlike metal bands.
MetalLover James indeed
uhh, have you seen arch enemy?
Perfectly said!!!
My fave metal singer is Tarja Turunen. She has a great voice.
im so glad that all this time i was right about the music i love, thanks for this amazing proof
As a metalhead musician y recognize the talent from ariana grande, she has a clean voice that works with her genre
You almost expect Tarja Turunen to point to an audience member and blow his mind with that insane revving up of her voice (yes, Tenacious D reference)
supercosmic voice bro
She did not mean (she did not mean) to blow your mind (blow your mind) but that sh-it happens to her, all the tiiiimmmeee
Favourite hip hop artists
Eminem
N.W.A
Janet Jackson
Miley cyrus
Favorite rock bands
Metallica
Green day
Slip knot
Bvb
Guns and Roses
In this moment
Halestorm
Queen
Bonjovi
AC/DC
Queen
evanescence
Korn
Linkin Park
Limp bizkit
Rock music has influenced me more than hip hop
Yeah, the metal ladies won this one 🤘🏼
You cannot tell me someone can humiliate Adele with singing ability. She has one of the most perfect voices I've ever heard.
You’ve never listened to Unleash the Archers I see
That's depend your definition of perfection.
Why can't we enjoy music for what it is instead of the selfish ego we have about them compared to other music?
This isnt humiliation at all, in fact it showcases AMAZING singers from all walks of music. Genius's in all of their rights. Love em all
Was the title changed or am I missing something?
Exactly 👍
@@GerasimSimov the thumbnail.
If you listen to this video without watching you will know exactly who is performing. I say cheers to the talent, don't see any competition here, its different genres. Even though I dont care about pop music I am sure you can put Lady Gaga, Adele or Christina on a stage of a symphonic metal band and with enough prep, they'd blow you away (refer to that moment Nicole Scherzinger sang The Phantom of The Opera). Same the other way around. Also, you just can't put Tarja here, she is just too good in what she does :D :D :D (absolute old time fan here of her NW work and solo stuff)
Tremendas voces, no importa el género, eso es secundario y polarizarlo es primitivo realmente. Aisladas al 100% de rendimiento, cada una tiene lo suyo por dar y como fenómeno resonador de un animal como lo somos, suenan todas de manera sublime!
The best metal singers are amazing, so are the best pop singers. Some of the best Metal women are classically trained which, I think, gives them a level of skill that most pop singers have no hope of matching. It is part of why I like metal. The best metal is quite complex and very well played. Pop is typically pretty shallow and simple music.
Right. I wouldn't say that pop singers don't have the talent to sing on the same level. They just get limited by their music. The challenge is what makes metal singers more versatile. The music forces them to learn the techniques and to master different styles.
Pop use to be more challenging. The problem with pop is it's about labels selling music and nobody buys enough music anymore that the labels don't actually spend time making stars.
vocally no, i love rock and punk but some of the pop singers have better techniques than most metal singers have. If you know how to sing you will understand it,
You are right about that. I don't think you can find an Olivia Newton John in this era when it comes to Pop. It's more about image and making money. I never thought Beyonce or Katy Perry could sing worth 💩.
YEP. metal for me...Floor is my sin
I see what you did there.
A sin for you? Desire within desire within
Metal > All
Tarja Turunen and Angela Gossow are my favorites!!! Tarja's voice always kill me.
And Angela's voice is undestroyable. She is the QUEEN of death metal!
1:48 the difference between pop and metal is metal doesn't need to lip sync.
or to autotune
Vocoder
No way Nikki's mic was live in that clip.
Exactly. The amount of auto-tuning in pop music is gross and pathetic
@@SS-rr7by Gross and pathetic? EW AUTOTUNE 🤢🤢🤢
some metal fans seem to have a very weird superiority complex but all of these singers are awesome in their own respective genres, they're just different and that's okay
I dont compare Adele to mainstream pop. She is a force. But I LOVE all these metal ladies, especially Floor. I am a metal fan for the largest part.
Yea Adele is decent.
Adele is mainstream pop though.
@@robertomangani3788 She compose meaningful ballads and she doesn't need auto-tune.
@@captainfantastic3490 Sure, I like her music too, but it's still mainstream pop
@@captainfantastic3490 but it's not bubble gum pop
There's actually some "pop" artists on this list like Adele or Lady Gaga, that I thoroughly enjoy listen to. And that even though I'd definitely call myself a metal chick. They sound different, but they're still good singers.
Floor Jansen the lead singer of the band Nightwish are often in the debate to are the best female singer on the planet right now bacause of her versability and complete control, metal,pop,growl,grit,and crazy high belting and live she was at her best
You're fighting what we're fighting for, everyone is talented in their own way no need to assimilate into anything when you find peace in these women's voices
I'm a metal fan, but this video proves absolutely nothing. Pop is a different singing style, so is metal and classical. And each of these styles have a different (complicated) technique. Its unfair to say, that all pop singers are bad singers (ariana grande is highly skilled in belting) and that all metal singers are good singers. Its just not that black and white.
The only thing it proves to me is that, sadly, a lot of metalheads still play the childish game of "metal is better than pop". And all the trashtalking about pop idols. Like damn... Just makes me sad
True. Adele's and Lady Gaga's voice scope is amazing. But if you take them out what's left? I do admit I don't know how Ariana sounds - every pop song is the same for me when it comes on the radio, I just switch to ignore and suffer mode if I cannot switch the radio off.
But your comment is the only one that makes sense with one small comment of my own. The style is totally different, while the style of pop music is to serve to the voice - the metal voice sometimes has to fight with the music for supremacy
@@arjanneknol830 Well, metal IS better than pop, of course! Subjectively, of course! :-) People tend to forget that "subjectivity" part :-)
@@vedrangrudenic3228 I can totally resonate with what you said. I'm a real singing and music nerd, i do pop music of my own, i also sing in a metal band AND study classical and musical singing in a theater academy. I analyzed a lot of music, and i think the main issue with pop music is that its most of the time so annoyingly overproduced and uncreative. I feel like the main issue lies within the industry itself, and the focus on making money as fast as possible. There are SO many good pop singers out there, who are mere vocal athletes (Like Ariana Grande) who arent the main problem of this genre. And i hate that people like some angry metalheads cant acknowlegde that. Any trained vocalist can hear that this little woman has a control over her voice like... fuuuck. Would i roote for Floor Jansen in a Vocal Battle agains Ariana Grande? Hell Yes! But i can atleast give her (or any other good vocalist in a different genre) credit for her skills.
Adele cant be humiliated! Im a huge metal fan and i love her voice
totally of course! adele is the best voice of all
@@laloca7948 n'importe quoi Floor Jansen , Simone Simons, Sharon Den Adel Tarja Turunen Amy Lee et Mylène Farmer sont un cran au-dessus
@@frednstein9808 ouais nan là t’abuse
adele is so boring .....so boring
@@apollon755 False
You forgot about Cristina Scbbia of Lacuna Coil. She has an amazing voice. She should have one of the first metal singers.
Cristina Scabbia did a song with Howard Jones of Killswitch Engage called "Dangerous" that you might want to check out. 😁
Its a no-brainer, Metal wins! The "pop" stars will never achieve anything like what the metal gals can do,
Also these metal singers are way often much nicer, friendlier and more down to earth women !
Also, it's Europe, craddle of classical music and metal against United States, the land of cheap music.
@@fre1975 I never defend the US, but they did give is blues. That counts for something.
@Guardian Well, Blues, Rock and The Motown' Disco too. Excuse me, i've expressed wrong, I really refered to the actual music, especifically in metal.
@@fre1975 so true : -)
Yep very true!!! Elize Ryd was extremely nice! Floor Jansen another down to earth person metal best genre
To be fair, I would give a metal album with Lady Gaga a listen. Like or hate her pop music, she is an amazing musician
I agree!!!
You have zero to no taste in music. Lady Gaga is insult to the definition of sound.
@@AJ_Zen No
@@AJ_Zen " insult to the definition of sound." I didn't know she had a death metal album...
There is truly no comparison!
This isn't a better vs worse. They are all great in. the genre. Metal isn't mainstream so the sound isn't what most are used to hearing. Its just a personal preference. I just wish more people were exposed to symphonic metal. The clean theatrical vocals with the metal rhythms sound powerful
Looking at this comment section, you can tell the difference between people who have very recently discovered metal, vs the people who've been listening to it for a while.
Seriously, this comment section gives me so much faith in the metal community. Glad to see that there are people out there with an open mind.
The fact with this is that, often female metal singers are capable to sing Feminine an flawlessly sometimes even like opera singers and other times they just go all metal with growl scream and vocal fry, the fact is that those things require a lot of tecnique, with added to a normale singer makes it more complete and therefore incredibily outstanding on stage
@@hopewonder i said like, but i think i expressed my self badly, i didn't mean exactly like them, obviously i know that you Need years of tought training to sing opera, all i am saying Is that they sound a bit like them, never intended to say they could do opera or that their voice Is as strong as a opera singer
you cant compare different styles! they are all very very good singers.
I notice how much Cammie Gilbert and Kayla Dixon are slept on during these conversations.
You have to respect the ability of many of these high end pop divas, even if, like me, you aren't into their music. I think a lot of it comes down to a couple different points, and the first leads into the second:
1. The emphasize different things. For example, while metal most certainly doesn't shy away from spectacle, there's a higher premium placed on the music and musicianship. I think pop often reverses that priority, thought that's not to say musical ability isn't obviously very important as well.
2. I think those priorities result in metal often being more challenging music. The endless sub-genres of metal and how it's (and metalheads themselves have) embraced folk elements and opera style vocals are just the tip of the iceberg of evidence. Not everyone, but it seems like a lot of metalheads are genuinely interested in hearing new things. Pop music is just safe. Digestible. That doesn't mean it's bad, it is what it sets out to be, and that's just fine, but I find it boring.
Agree. Adele voice is good. Im metal fan, but i like adele. Skyfall is masterpiece.
Thank you for sharing an open minded opinion 🙏🙏🙏
@@markokumpulainen8742 the band "Our Last Night" did a Skyfall cover. Check it out it's good. And yes Adeles version is good and she has a nice voice.
As someone who grew up listening to and playing metal, I've been listening to more pop than metal anymore. There's just as much innovation in pop, the problem is that most metalheads immediately write it off because they only hear the pop on the radio. There's a whole world of amazing pop that's just under the surface of the top 40, but no one ever tries to dig deep enough to hear it
And I would also argue that there is just as much innovation and progression in pop as there is metal, they are just focusing on progressing different things than most metal
@@brendangibson8200 Please give me some examples, I'd be interested to hear some good not top 40 music, I know a fair amount of smaller bands and artists and have a list of about 100 or so right now that I need to get to, but I'm always up to hear more.
Katy Perry: You're gonna hear me roarhhhhhh
Alissa White-Gluz: This is f****** roarhhhhh!!!
Metal head of 30+ years here, and if anything this video actually caused me to acknowledge that not all pop singers are garbage. Metal fans already know that metal singers are fucking amazing. This video should be for the mainstream pop fans who have no idea what metal vocalists can do.
Metal has Floor... the contest is not even close to be fair. It's ended, right there. Game Over. Floor
Hear hear!
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The Queen!!
Floor Jansen
Simone Simmons
Cristina Scabbia
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Sharon DenAdel
Elize Reid
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And so many more....
Floor is amazing, but ariana grande? Yeah, they both great.
Got to say when those Opera Singers belt out a powerful long note in rock music, wow!!!
My dude, Howard Jones of Killswitch Engage. 🤟
Most pop performers are pretty stunted in their ability to sing by the industry or choose pop as it's the easiest option but of those performers there is one artist in the list. Lady Gaga certainly stands with the metal queens. Even when constrained by the pop genre, Gaga still finds a way to display her vocal talent and cover deep topics through her music. In a world full of 4 chord, barely a full octave, major scale, propaganda-levels of happy crap, she stands out as being someone genuine.
This is battle between Barbies(ok without Adele) against Valkyries and her Queen Floor 🥰
I must point out that when one compares two vastly different musical genres, you will get vastly different results.
That said, female vocalists is what we're analyzing here.
The pop vocalists performed decently, but never pushed their voices out of their tessitura, that is, their comfortable singing range (I may have spelled that word wrong). Nothing wrong with that, but it results in a fairly nondescript performance of fairly average quality. I think Adele was the best offering pop had.
The metal vocalists, by contrast, utilized the entirety of their vocal range (head voice, chest voice, falsetto, and even growls), and they also seemed to utilize vocal projection more, resulting in a naturally louder and more powerful sound (no surprise considering that they have to compete with a fully amped band).
No surprise, the metal vocalists did much better.
Metal ones are amazing
I'm more of a metal and rock fan but I can acknowledge that those are different singing style (and yes, some of the mental vocals the pop singers would not be able to perform) but the pop performances all sounded great as well. Happy to see/hear that some pop singers can still perform live and sound good/great.
And we only touched on the talent, Anneke, Charlotte, Tatiana, Courtney, Sharon, Melissa. Quite apart from the fact that you could have put any ten pop princesses up against Floor the Goddess in any style they wanted or purely on stage presence and its like a candle to the Sun. This is not even fair its Mohammed Ali/Cassius Clay in a boxing bout against, well me. Also Brittney as Isaiah points out must be included.
Any pop artist againt mrs. FLOOR JANSEN HAS NO CHANCE
That's a great analogy. Pop princesses and Metal Goddesses
Add Brittney Slayes to that list, and I'd be inclined to agree with you.
@@isaiahwelch8066 100% already noted that omission and felt bad about it.
Watching the metal gals perform, you see what you're getting - no autotune, no post production, they lay it out every time. What you see, er, HEAR, is what you get. Even the more production oriented ones (like Exit Eden).
These women can sing their asses off. GENERALLY with a wider effective range than their pop counterparts (with exceptions - Adele, Christina(?)).
Floor can deliver a heart ripping version of Shallow. Can Gaga pull off that 6 second high note at the end of Ghost Love Score? Or echo Floor or Tarja in their amazing renditions of Phantom of The Opera?
Metal. All the way.
Don't you mean _the_ 8-second note with variance, during GLS? 😅😅😅
@Tsumuro Nah, I'm thinking more like autotune.
Clearest example would be Taylor Swift (live) at the grammys, years back. Totally different sound from the recordings my daughter was listening to.
Compare that to …
Elan on stage vs. Elan on album - Floor actually sounds a little BETTER on stage, into it, etc.
Any of Floor's performances on Beste Zangers (unless THEY pulled post production on the live performances).
Tarja and Marco singing Phantom of The Opera.
Exit Eden, Rhapsodies in Black, vs. Exit Eden, live on stage.
Etc.
Point being, the Metal gals on stage seem to (consistently) sound a lot better, in comparison to their recorded offerings, than most of the pop gals do.
Stage production notwithstanding.
And, of course, IMHO.
@@isaiahwelch8066 That note is the Official Floorgasm Note! :D
Christina’s got a five octave range and is pretty solid with her distortion technique. I’d honestly like to hear her tackle more rock (and even take a stab at metal) in the future.
@@TheRealMarkBoehm Christina is actually one of the better 'pop tarts' to come out of Disney (vs. Britney, for example). You can tell she has the voice, with or without adjustment.
Some others I've noticed: Adele, a lot of the PostModern Jukebox crew - Haley Reinhart, Sara Niemitz, Ariana Savalas (although they don't have the vocal range of a Floor, or Tarja, or Christina - they still sound good, stage or recording), Lzzy Hale (although she's kind of metal, so…).
To be honest, as a metal fan, this is unfair. You can’t compare a pop singer to a metal singer. The metal singer’s gonna win 100%. Technique, vocal range, voice power, interpretation, stage presence… they’re two worlds apart.
There's no need for divisiveness. They're all great singers.
Pop singers have no chance. Metal queens the best in the world
Celine Dion, Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston, Beyonce? Lol
Not a snowball's chance in hell to more exact.
@@robyndelacruz9142 no chance
fate and bullets no chance of surpassing the impact and records, yeah wbk😌
@@robyndelacruz9142 that doesnt say a damn thinh the only thing that matters is talent Mariah Carey made the most annoying song ever celine dion sang and the titanic sank Beyonce only Shakes here ass
I feel like some of the pop singers are actually pretty talented, but I can hardly stomach most of the genre. Christina and Adele have pretty great voices in particular, and they deserve the accolades they've received. I think it would be really interesting to see them attempt to cross genres into metal, either on a show modeled after Beste Zangers or in a crossover appearance with an existing band.
That said, Tarja, Floor, Simone, etc are so far up there at the top of the game that it's unfair to hold anyone against that standard. They're classically trained vocalists with a load of talent who are just in a different league. Symphonic metal is a whole different animal, and the bar for quality of singing has been set so high; the ladies at the forefront are some of the best voices on earth.
I do wish Cristina from Lacuna Coil had been mentioned though; she has a really rich tone that I always loved.
Lacuna coil is the shit. I absolutely love them.
0:25
Oh my god. That is beautiful