THIS £1K HARDTAIL SHOCKED ME!
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- čas přidán 2. 06. 2024
- It's been 10 years since I've been on a hardtail mountain bike. So I'm going to take this brand new Cube Analog hardtail to the trails and see how I cope...
🔧 - I've made some upgrades to this hardtail → • UPGRADING MY £1K HARDT...
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-------------------CHAPTERS------------------
00:00 - Intro
00:35 - In This Video
01:05 - My First Hardtail
02:40 - Cube Analog 2022
03:36 - First Impressions
04:24 - Blue Trails
05:45 - How Did it Cope?
07:16 - This Get Rougher
08:00 - Climbing
09:10 - How Does it Climb?
11:16 - Red Trails
12:40 - Things To Consider
15:10 - Shred
16:24 - End of The Ride
17:57 - Cube Analog Bike Check
18:07 - USWE Hip Pack
19:21 - Debrief - Sport
🔧 - I've made some upgrades to this hardtail → czcams.com/video/r1xYNGq0NSk/video.html
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Part of the comments were really directed towards a more cross country focused budget hardtail, would be worth trying an aggressive hardtail with a comparable spec to your full suspension bike and a dropper to see how that feels. Recently went from a full suspension Cannondale to an OnOne Scandal and loving it.
Same I went from a full suspension to a custom built chromag and I don’t think I want to go back. It’s been a little over two years.
I have the Scandal and a Mondraker Foxy - I don’t prefer one over the other, they’re just different.
yes I agree, just got my marin 2 frame with dropper post and 150 mm up front and 2.5 tyres, its more than fun.
Just got myself a 160mm enduro hardtail after not owning an ht for over a year an a half. Last hardtail was a 100mm xc race machine. I've gotten much better in that time so I'm super excited to see how fun a hardtail is again!
If you had the same pedals, grips, dropper, etc that you're accustomed to on your full sus, could be an interesting comparison, go for it.
That's a great idea Marc!! I'll write that one down. Are you riding a hardtail or full sus?
@@chainreactioncycles Hardtail, Trek Xcaliber 8
Plus he needs to ditch those 680mm bars, Cube are really doing a bad thing to their bikes with those short bars, 720mm should be min and a 740 standard on those bikes.
@@bobsonmkd They're *so* narrow.
Io ho provato manubri fino ai 720, stem di varie misure, ora.uso nelle mie tre.mtb stem da 55 e 35, i manubri da 660. Piu di cosi mi trovo male
Always rode with a backpack, bought a hip pack after recovering from a broken collarbone and wow! I did it because the strap on the backpack was very uncomfortable, and now I know, even though some packs claim good air flow, it's nowhere close to no pack. Plus putting any extra weight on your hips rather than your shoulders is 2 fold, 1, it lowers your center of gravity, might not be much, but I can feel the difference, and 2, you have larger muscle groups carrying this. And they don't really feel the difference. switching from a backpack to a hip pack feels like taking your backpack off, tossing it trail-side and riding on.
Are you a fan of hardtail mountain bikes? Let us know in the comments below.
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You can get along almost everywhere with an XC hardtail. You can't really jump (lightweigt wheels, 80-100 mm travel, high seatpost, skinnier tires), but with aggressive tires you can enjoy even trail riding.
So i’ve had a ragley hardtail with 29” wheels and a 150mm fox 36 for the last couple of years and its been an ace all rounder, my plans are to keep the ragley for longer pedally days and get a long travel 27.5 full sus for bike parks, push up spots and just as an all round rowdier bike, the hardtail is a great place to start and theres very few things im afraid to ride on it, been innerleithen/golfie, bike park wales, wharnecliffe & windhill bike park to name a few and it has came and conquered at all of these spots of course on rough sections you get pinged around but I’m grateful that i’ve taken the time to learn and perfect skills on the hardtail.
I rode a similar bike as a rental once and was actually shocked how sketchy I rode. Even though my own bike is a a hardtail too, but a burly steel Stif Squatch. The difference in geo is insane
awesome. that's grassroots mtb right there.. Guessing most of us started on bikes like that... but also Guessing most of us don't belong on bikes like that.. I'd love to see you do the exact same video with a stock ragley mmm bop and horizon pro flats. my missus has a medical condition that affects her balance and ability to see depth. so no, she is by no means a fast rider. she feels way more comfortable and confident on the Blue Pig than she ever felt on her analog.
I have just done the same. I have sold my orbea rallon and gone to a commencal meta ht! It’s made me realise why I fell in love with mtb
Aw cool Luke! Hardtails for life ❤️
I had many years YT full suspension mtb tommorow i will buy 1k cube attention hard tail and i am excited for that. and this video makes me convinced :D
I’ve got a Vitus Sentier. 29. I ride it on red and black grade trails it’s an absolute blast I’ve had full susser bikes but I prefer the hard tail less maintenance
Nice one Knights Templar! Where abouts do you ride?
@@chainreactioncycles some local trails in Lancashire not far from where I live mostly bridal ways. Some mountain bike park gisburn Forrest and even trails in the Lake District. Like gar-burn pass wanla scar good Fun and rocky
@@knightstemplar6243 Amazing!! Having all that on your doorstep must be so much fun. Enjoy 👏🏻👏🏻
Get your priorities straight
Hearing the hollow sound in the rear wheel when it lost grip makes me think that lower tire pressure might have improved your experience.
My first hardtail was a vitus sentier 29er medium frame and it was to big for me as I'm a small man but I had only started mountain biking 9 months before and I did the redbull fox hunt it was tough but the bike never missed a beat only 130mm forks if you can ride a hardtail well then you can ride any bike 👌👍
currently ride a hardtail trek x-cal 7 but after someone let me try their full sus at a pump track, i've just always had my thoughts on how smooth the ride was and how i would love to get a full sus myself. i'm just saving up for a really good full sus now and i just can't see myself buying anything other except maybe a hybrid for commuting.
Love my Hardtail, would love to see you upgrade the bike and see if you enjoy it more.
I am riding Vitus Nucleus, absolute blast. I ride it for fun, I commute with it and don't forget to jump over the curbs in every opportunity
Sounds good Hasanli!
I have done all down hull tracks in Uk and Scotland on my £850 specialised rockhopper from 2009 and have flown past people on big travel full suspensions. And then I can carry on peddling up hill when they are pushing.
Awesome 😊
Lets see what you upgrade. Especially your thoughts on the fork as an upgrade as i have a ragely with a 160mm fork
Trail hardtails are the best. I'm looking for to buy a giant fathom 130mm trail hardtail, but the prices are going up and they're always out of stock in XL
Nice one - let us know what you go for if they ever come into stock...!
I just got last year's (2021) Giant Fathom 1 with 27.5 tires and it's awesome. 😎
Great video! Watching this after picking up a 23’ analog! I’d like an opinion, I went with an XL and I’m 5’11” and 160lb. It was the only one they had and picked it up on sale for €650 so I figured I’d try it. I was worried about it being too big, but it seems to fit me comfortably though! Maybe my arms are a little more stretched than ideal when riding flat, but that’s kind of normal with this kind of bike?
Love hardtails whilst not as capable as full suspension imho they should be the first bike anyone rides they are fun simple and depending on bike/components reliable aswell as affordable.
Cheap aggressive hardtail would recommend is 2nd hand Norco Bigfoot or Sasquatch. Will have big travel single crown bombers.
You should try a roscoe 7,8, or 9 they are much more aggressive have a dropper and a bit more suspension
I'm going to pick one of these up next week cant wait £749 bargain !!
Thanks for this video! My local bike store sells Cube bikes and I haven't seen much about them in general so need to know what they're like to own!
Awesome! Cheers Alan, glad you enjoyed the vid 👌🏻
My hardtail is a cube, only reason I got it was because it was on a mental sale a few years back (£800 for reaction tm Pro) but for msrp they just too expensive for what you get, not the biggest fan of their geometry but that can be up to personal preference
(much prefer my full squishes geometry)
@@nebnollock5198 thanks for the comment mate! I'm weighing up if i should pick up a nice Cube bike now with my hard earned cash or order and wait for something else that might take ages!
@@matthewcole931 Keep up the good work sir!
@@alanlau4941 I guess it depends what's in stock, my choice would be something like the vitus sentier, my mate has one and its an absolutely amazing hard tail
I sometime can't decide which bike to ride, so I bring both my hardtail and my FS bikes to the trailhead, and decide when I get there - or I do a lap with each. I do go much faster on the hardtail on most trails. However, my hardtail build is not a low-end, budget bike anymore. I paid $650 for my first hardtail in 1999. I build my new hardtail myself for $4350. The same build is $7000 in my local bike shop.
Sounds like a beast! What's your hardtail?
@@chainreactioncycles I bought a carbon frame direct from the factory in China for $490. Looks almost identical to a Trek frame. Fox 32 stepcast fork, carbon wheelset with Hope Pro hubs, Magura MT8 brakes, Sram XX1 drivetrain. Race Face Next SL cranks. 21.1 lbs.
@@MTB_Rider_96 China carbon? No thanks.
@@gggggggg204 LOL - Nearly 100% of all carbon frames are made in China - Yes, ALL of them. I just refuse to pay $3000 for a frame with the Trek or Pivot, or Specialized logo on it when I can get a High-Quality frame, likely made in the same factory, for $600 to $800. I'm on my fifth carbon "Direct From Factory" frame build, and I beat my bikes in Colorado, Moab, and all over the Mid-West and have had zero frame problems in 6 years. I've seen the brand name carbon frames crack way too often to pay $3000 just for the name. If you have a carbon frame, there's a 99% chance it was made in China. And there's 100% chance you paid too much.
@@MTB_Rider_96 Still prefer branded carbon than something w/o quality control of any bigger brand. Almost 95% frames (carbon or alu) are made in China but with brand there will be quality control.
Awesome vid! Here's a dilemma: Assuming my budget is max the price of the cube analog, do I 1)Buy the cube cause its a good ht and it has reliable shimano brakes and sram gears or 2) Do I buy a cheaper (-80€) bike (a gt avalanche) which has slightly more aggresive geometry (67.5° instead of 68.5 of the analog) and wider handlebars, but the brakes and derailleur are a bit worse (it has tektro and mikroshift bits which I am unfamiliar with)? I intend to upgrade some bits in the future anyway, and I would like to have a more aggresive bike for the descents!
So basically frame vs components is my point.
Also, is it possible to fit like a 120mm fork on the cube?
Sry for the long comment, keep up the good work!!!!
You can change components, you can't change the frame. Ideally you get a frame with the parts you want, because a big company can get them cheaper than you upgrading afterwards.
But if you have to compromise, don't compromise on the frame (and fork). Derailleurs, shifters and the brakes usually get overcredited.
Riding skills, Frame/Fork and Wheels are at least 95% of the equation in my book.
In your special case I would argue that 1 degree difference is not much and neither is a very aggressive geometry.
Everything below 66 degree is where progressive geometries start.
Regarding the 120mm: Can't say for sure, but usually this screws up the geometry and usually this makes things worse and not better.
Just my 2 cents
@@antitainer3761 way more than 2 cents dude, thanks!!! I found another bike, the vitus nucleus vrs 29er 2021, 120mm suntour fork, 67° head angle, low-ish end tektro brakes and a deore 10-speed, all for 900€. It isn't necessarily the best deal, but it checks almost everything I need, and its a great platform for future upgrades. Its arrives in a week, hopefully it feels as good as it looks!
Hey Grigoris - for sure go for the bike with the best frame you can afford to kick your journey off. As Anti says, you can upgrade parts as and when - but the frame needs to be a solid platform to work from. Let us know what you go with 👍
Always upgrade when you can to make sure you are comfortable on your bike
Absolutely Harley!! What upgrades would you recommend?
Matt is going to make a few upgrades to this hardtail. So make sure you subscribe to see what he gets up to 👀
Grips pedals a good bike chain and hollow tech bottom bracket
I think you'd like the Canyon Stioc 2 or 3 price varies between 950-1,300 USD. A trail ready hardtail that doesn't break the bank too much
Nice, sounds a good choice!
Great video
Glad you enjoyed Braulio! 👏🏻
Hey. What did u put on pedals when u fixed them?
Thks to the YT Algorithm , just ended up here for the frist time ,
as a Novice, ish Boomer , who has a HT and FS can relate to so much with a big grin on me face 😀
Looking forward to following some more . but now off to the local woods and sweary bits ;-)
Welcome aboard! Hope you had a good ride 👍
@@chainreactioncycles Here in the " Sauerland " surrounded by Hills and Forests , always :-D
Got a full suss Cube 160 Ebike which I love but must say my Vitus hardtail still got that something about it on the downhills 👊
Epic 👍
Hi Matt,
I'm considering getting this CUBE Analog but I'm not sure about the size.
I'm 6.2 feet height and I prefer the geometry from L (large size) instead of XL.
Do you think L size will affect that much and the bike will feel small?
What is your height? Cause you used the XL version.
Your response on this is much appreciated.
Thanks!
Hey Denis - I’m 6ft 5. I think you’ll be fine if you want to go with the large, especially given your height. Let me know how you get on 👍🏻 Matt
Awesome! I just bought an analog :)
Enjoy! 🔥
I really enjoy riding my hard tail, I have I Nukeproof scout 275 pro and a Giga 290 and I find I take the scout out the most unless it’s going to be really rough.
Awesome bikes, lucky rider!
What are you thinking for this bike as a beginner mtb
What was your rebound of your shocks at? It looked like you had it dialed all the way to stiff? That could make a huge difference
Good call - I’ll check 👍🏻
Quad Lock pro phone mount over my stem on my 2021 rockymountain growler 50 and a small burton backpack for supplies. I dont like mounting a bunch of crap on my frame. Will definitely consider a hip pack though. That uswe you have is nice.
Nice setup! Yeah it was decent, looking forward to seeing how minimal i can pack it on future rides 👍 Matt
@@chainreactioncycles beauty! Big fan of your channel, sir!
Off course i'm a fan of HT ... i make some DH / trail and Enduro aswell.
Make a HARDCORE HT:
Better flats / new fork / wheels / dropper
Nice 👌🏻
Buy a suntour ncx for your hardtail and you have both relative confort and affordable bike.
Last year I got my first hardtail in about 7 years. My last hardtail had 26" wheels and 100mm fork. Thankfully it did have disc brakes. Then I bought a 130mm front and rear full suspension bike with 27.5" wheels. I did upgrade it. Dropper post, better 4 pot brakes, 180mm rotors, rear shock, wheels and tyres set up tubeless. I did change the front rotor to a 203mm rotor. Last year I got a Oebea Laufey. The 140mm fork and 2.6" tyres did help. As it is my first 29er. I was a little surprised how well it carries speed. As the original brake were less powerful than I'm used to I changed the brakes to the same Shimano SLX M7120 brakes on my full sus. On the Orbea I still use 180mm rotors. I use the RT99 IceTech rotors. I have also change the bars to the OneUp carbon bar. As I wanted the OneUp bar to be the same width as the original 780mm bar. I needed to cut it down. I actually found cutting down carbon bars for the first time quite scary. Even with the correct saw guide and carbon blade. I would like to get a 29er full sus.
Can the saddle go full down ?
I've got an On one big dog its really good, only for 1010 pounds with gx eagle drivetrain
You had a Stumpy FSR eh? I recently got a 2011 one and it’s amazing so far, even though it’s 11 years old
That's awesome Rebecca!! Where abouts are you riding it? :)
@@chainreactioncycles Rogate DH is my local, heading there this Sunday!
Man, I've been almost killing myself on a Soul SL300 26" hardtail for quite a while. Took me a while to find the right bar, height and all but damn I wouldn't trade it for any other bike (except maybe the 29" version hehe).
Took me quite a while to get it just right as the frame was size 17 and I'm 19 (1.83m, 6'00 I think?) and I didn't really know what I liked to ride/felt comfortable
But once I got it, I honestly think I reached my limits on what upgrading a bike will do. It looks kinda stupid, REALLY HIGH, but damn I love passing guys who spent 4x more than me and then see me, with curved bars, 26" wheels, all around goofy mfer just passing through.
That sounds a bit like an old vintage MTB to be honest or do you have one from the 2000s?
I never like with hard tails was the feel of the nose dive due to suspension in the front only. The change in geometry off hard landings and hard bermed turns always felt weird to me. Of course it was a cheap bike and my skills would be classified as the low end of advanced.
I like to ride fast. If I try to ride a hardtail as fast as my full sus it quickly gets sketchy and scary. Started on fully rigid then hardtails then full suspension. Dont see any reason to go back. Even pro xc racers havent used them for years.
Ive got a cannondale trail se 1 with 120mm fork, a real trail HT feels so much different than one of these...
Are you at Llandegla????
First hardtail in 10 years? What happened to that Ragley from a few months ago? 👀🤔
cc Neill 👀🧐 💴
Matt is a big boy - so unfortunately he wasn't able to ride that Ragley. So we made sure to get him a bike that he could fit on this time!
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Maybe try something less cross country ish like a canyon stoic or the comencal meta HT...
1k sounds expensive for a good hardtail, the Canyon Stoic and Rockrider AM100 hardtail are higher end and costs less
Pick a pish bike for it. Dare you try that on my 62 degreem 4pot, 2 meter long 29+ Hardcore Hardtail.
Niiiiice 👍
Try a long travel hard tail in comparison as you have chosen a basic one
Fair shout.
So true
Get yourself a quality hardtail like a Banshee Paradox or Nukeproof Scout/Ragley Big AL with the same components as your Full squish bike. It will change your life.
Nice call 🙌🏻
It's simple: hardtails are for if you spend less than $1500 other than that full sus' are better
Ooh interesting take...
Not at 2022 prices
About the Hip Pack: I remember in Deadpool 2 someone saying "Cool hip pack! I also had one in nineteen ninetynever"
Great movie! 👏🏻
Let see some upgrades.
Stay tuned Bruce! Upgrades are coming.
I like hardtale mtb im use only in road
Idk how you ride a ht w/ pinless flat pedals.
With difficulty 🥵
Very technical with two laps and you're done
i never adjust my saddle height ever don´t need a dropper seast post either and i ride some steep stuff
Woah, really?
@@chainreactioncycles Yes
Where abouts r theses trails
Gortin, Northern Ireland 👍
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Go and try to make a video with a trail or Enduro Hardtail 😜
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Car park?? Parking lot👍
We say car park in the UK
Like bin vs trash can 👍🏻🗑
In the sense that “car park and bin” are correct and “parking and trash can” are incorrect….
I mean who doesn't ride a hardtail as a kid?? Lol
Very true Barbell! Do you have a hardtail now?
Can you give me the hardtail if you don't use it hahahahahah😅
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Never go in dry.
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Ride a Canyon Stoic or comparable modern trail hardtail and then we'll talk!
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Sry but when u say that its rough and u seem to have trouble to control it its probably the best that u should ride a REAL Trail Harttail cause the thing u're riding is a entry level mtb for beginners this is no hate but thats what im asking myself right now?
Hey Nick - absolutely, there are plenty of 'proper' trail hardtails out there that are more capable. Maybe one to look at for another video?
Should have tested a proper aggressive hardtail
Soon 🤞🏻
Shoulda used a nukeproof
anyone else notice the bike in the thumbnail is missing a chainstay
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These trails make me 💩 my sweat pants 👖. Bloody hell
Nice one Dennis! Where do you ride?
where is it?
@@fxllen6307 Gortin Glens, Northern Ireland.
I wouldn't put my 1k bike on the floor I know it's a tool at the end of the day but I'm a bike snob.
The thumbnail makes no sense, you put a fullsus on it lmao. I only clicked on this video so I can comment this.
Hardtail was so good we binned the full sus. Yeah? Made you click so job done 🥰 👍🏻👌🏻
"Let's stop talking and start treding" continues down the track like a fucking granny!
😆 harsh
@@chainreactioncycles don't expect you'll ever get a pad on the back from a Dane! No you'll get what I just gave you, when I think you did alright!
@@chainreactioncycles so take it as an compliment.
@@kewsoner7924 🤗
2022 1k buys nothing these days
sorry but you bought the wrong bike! look at ribble or ragley bikes... they offer enduro Hardtails and not an xc bike like your Cube bike..... these enduro bikes have all you want: 160 mm on the front, 4 piston brakes, a dropper, a 12 speed and a slack headtube angle!
A 1K hardtail should be compared to a 1.2K full sus
Is there any 1.2k full?
@@gggggggg204 Maybe, a quick search found a Polygon Siskiu D5 for USD1,300.
Wallmart would surely have something nasty.
@@MrUnl0rd I think comparing walmart bike to something branded make no sense. D5 ok, but not market bikes. Plus when i said 1.2k full i thought about something worth to buy ;d
@@gggggggg204 I agree totally. I have bought a 1000£ hardtail before, but immediately updated the fork and breaks to make it decent, so ended up costing close to twice as much.
@@MrUnl0rd I bought even cheaper bike than you and upgrade almost everything ;d Now finally i have full and need to upgrade only brakes.
Same wallet , different amount
Give me bike sir
Can i have a bike
Which One ?